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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: All Right, So this week I am very excited because

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Speaker 2: I have really truly never watched Love Is Blind ever.

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Speaker 2: I mean so much so that I remember in the

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Speaker 2: watching maybe like one half of an episode and going,

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Speaker 2: this is ridiculous, I'm not watching this. But for some reason,

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. I think it was when Alan

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Speaker 2: was in England. Something about the season just seemed exciting

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Speaker 2: to me for some reason, and I'm like, I just

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Speaker 2: want to sit down and see what this is about.

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Speaker 2: Actually watch watch it. And after one full episode, I

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Speaker 2: was like, oh, I'm hooked. And I've binged it and

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Speaker 2: I've watched the reunion and we've got Jess a Vestal

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Speaker 2: as I say it a Vestal, I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: just know she's beautiful. We only know she's just in

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Speaker 2: her occupation right exactly, and Autumn her daughter. Right.

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Speaker 1: Did you want watching no Cat? I said, one thing,

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Speaker 1: one thing busy, I know, and I nicely, I feel bad.

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Speaker 1: It's like two weeks in a row. I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 1: just it's just not my thing.

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Speaker 3: So it's not usually, but I gotta tell you set

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Speaker 3: it up for me a little bit about her.

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Speaker 2: Okay, her name is Jess, she's got a d I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I ever like this. I'm usually like, well,

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Speaker 2: I didn't watch watch your show, but I will yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then I don't And I don't mean that bad.

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Speaker 2: I just when do I when do we have the

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Speaker 2: time right now? So but anyways, I watched and I

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Speaker 2: was in so I loved Jess. Jess was my favorite.

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Speaker 2: She liked Jimmy in the Pods. This is where I

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Speaker 2: don't like Jimmy though, And I'm gonna bring this up

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Speaker 2: to her. The second she said she had a daughter,

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Speaker 2: he was like, it changed, it changed, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: to me, and I felt the change. So I'm like,

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Speaker 2: obviously she felt the change too. And in my mind,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, why would you even consider staying with him

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Speaker 2: if he had that? And I get it might be hard, right, like,

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Speaker 2: but we're also in our thirties. The chances of either

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Speaker 2: being a divorced or having a kid is somewhat higher

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Speaker 2: than previously. But I did not like that at all

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Speaker 2: from Jimmy and I remember dating. I'd be like, nope,

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Speaker 2: if you don't, I'm a mom of two kids. I'm

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Speaker 2: very proud of that. So I didn't like the fact

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Speaker 2: that Jimmy was not really Now how do I say this.

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Speaker 2: It's fine if he had an idea of what he wanted,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't love how it Maybe it made me feel,

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Speaker 2: but like, I didn't love how he like. It's like

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Speaker 2: he wanted things to be perfect and that wasn't and

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Speaker 2: that was I'm perfect of its perfect. Yeah, it's interesting

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Speaker 2: too that you say how it made you feel, because

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Speaker 2: there was a couple of times on the show where

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Speaker 2: I thought, do I really dislike this person or is

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Speaker 2: it triggering something to me? Well, Jimmy triggered. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it triggered therap.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine the crap out of me.

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Speaker 2: Not only does he remind me of an ex boyfriend

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Speaker 2: that I had that was extremely narcissistic, and he would

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Speaker 2: say things like, and I quote and I'm reading this

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Speaker 2: he said, oh gosh, I mean they have Okay, Well,

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Speaker 2: let me say one thing about Jeremy that I didn't like.

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Speaker 2: He never took about accountability at all for anything. I mean,

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Speaker 2: at the reunion he kind of did, and he flipped

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Speaker 2: a kind of but he's like, I don't god what

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Speaker 2: he said. Something I don't know if I wrote it

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Speaker 2: down now, it is something like I don't I don't

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Speaker 2: need to talk about that right now. Oh oh, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to talk about it at this second, because

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Speaker 2: she was she was asking about something and he gave,

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Speaker 2: he gave, he gave her enough information and then he

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Speaker 2: would like not tell the rest and she's like, well,

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Speaker 2: what you were at her place until five? It's like

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Speaker 2: he made her feel crazy. And that really triggered me

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Speaker 2: from because this is like literally tea exactly to what

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Speaker 2: this ex gerssriend did, completely gassed and never took up accountability.

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Speaker 2: It also makes me laugh that on the reunion they

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Speaker 2: act like, we can't just rewind the tape.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: He's like, that's not what I said, and I'm like, actually,

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Speaker 3: The tape, That's exactly what you said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, Jimmy did something I really was triggered by.

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Speaker 3: Gosh.

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Speaker 2: First I was like, like Preston was like that was

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Speaker 3: And then we later find out he had slept but.

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Speaker 2: I knew that from the very the second he said,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like he's slept with her one of them.

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Speaker 3: I was like, he's definitely slept with one of them.

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Speaker 2: And then and then he's like, well, it's just how

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Speaker 2: protecting random friend who's had sex with you is now

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Speaker 2: your sister and what kind of family system are you

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Speaker 2: referring to? So obviously that set that up badly, very bad.

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Speaker 2: I don't like my thing with did you like Chelsea?

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Speaker 3: I think Chelsea's just fine.

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Speaker 2: I think Chelsea I feel terrible for how that edit

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Speaker 2: was for her because I appreciated the fact that she

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Speaker 4: There's other people that haven't seen it at me too,

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Speaker 4: so you have to explain it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the only one.

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Speaker 3: Yea, maybe I'm the only one.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people watch this this season,

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Speaker 2: I think, but Chelsea. I felt bad for her because

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Speaker 2: I've we've all been to Chelsea where that show's got

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Speaker 2: to be really hard because you don't know what the

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Speaker 2: other person looks like, right, and when she comes out

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Speaker 2: and you know he sees her, I would I would

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Speaker 2: be self conscious to being like, Okay, do you think

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty? But I think she was already in secure

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Speaker 2: to begin with that it's a little challenging because the

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Speaker 2: been questioning, like, oh, I wonder if he would have

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Speaker 2: wanted to pick Jess instead, because she's also what he

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Speaker 2: likes most or better or whatever. But she just looked

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Speaker 2: very insecure, very clingy, and I'm like, we've all been

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Speaker 2: to Chelsea, or at least I have been Chelsea for sure,

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Speaker 2: felt really bad for her, and I like that she

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Speaker 2: kind of owned it. She's guy, was not my best self,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, girl, we all get it. You know,

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Speaker 2: we've all been there, So I kind of wanted to

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Speaker 2: give her a hug at the reunion. She also described

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Speaker 2: herself as looking like Megan Fox, which is one of

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Speaker 2: the major headlines around this season. When describing herself in

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Speaker 2: the posaw that also, I'm not gonna lie. I'm just

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Speaker 2: gonna air all my ugliness with this. That also shaped

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Speaker 2: Jimmy for me. Well, that's what I want to I saw.

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Speaker 2: That's one of my questions to Jess because I wonder

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Speaker 2: if she didn't say that, would that if that changed

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Speaker 3: I think it did.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Megan Fox, yeah a specimen really really yeah,

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Speaker 2: just all of it so much. I mean, Clay's mom,

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Speaker 2: I would like her to be my mom. I'm wondering

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Speaker 2: if she's doing a mentoring program. There's a lot about

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Speaker 2: the season. I like, Clay's mom. Did you happen to

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Speaker 2: click on that thing that I posted? He probably didn't

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Speaker 2: because you didn't watch the show. But Clay's mom did

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Speaker 2: a whole thing about saying like you did me wrong,

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Speaker 2: like I forgive you, but you weren't good to know.

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Speaker 3: I saw that. I didn't know that so good.

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Speaker 2: I mean she was I want her on the podcast

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Speaker 2: so bad. I mean, she just she delivered it so classy, profound, yes,

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Speaker 2: truth speaking, very buttoned up. It was, yeah, you got me,

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Speaker 2: and you didn't treat me well something like that. She

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Speaker 2: didn't let him swagger his way back out of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he tried, but you know I got And she

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Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you got me, but then you weren't

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 2: She's like, He's like, well I got you got to

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Speaker 2: find someone like your mama. He goes shows, Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: got me, but you weren't good to me.

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't even mean.

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Speaker 2: It was just very truth is so sturdy, and he

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Speaker 2: was just like it killed his little Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I took out of it and took the swag. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he had to button himself back up. I really do

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Speaker 3: want a d and play back together. I don't do. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I do so do ten years I do? Do we

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Speaker 3: know who's together?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: The couple that I knew from the very get I'm like,

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Speaker 3: So just one couple. It ends with one couple, Like

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Speaker 3: this season there was only there was only one that

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Speaker 3: got married. Okay, so it's different every season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, every season it's different. This one everyone's been saying

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Speaker 2: is like way more dramatic. Well it is tangily the

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Speaker 2: season was very tangled. But I do think yeah, the

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Oh, I just oh and the Trier for that matter. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so this is interesting. So Sarah Ann was the one

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Speaker 2: he didn't pick. Okay, she slid into his DMS after

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Speaker 2: the show and was like, hey, if it's an open

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Speaker 2: I can't remember what she exactly said, but you know,

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Speaker 2: just let me know. While he was engaged to the

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Speaker 2: other girl, So do you think that's a pick me girl.

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Speaker 3: I love that you love her.

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Speaker 2: So do you think she's a pick me girl? Or

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Speaker 2: do you think that it's given the type of show

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Speaker 2: it is that it was okay for her to DM

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Speaker 2: him because they actually used the term pick me on

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Speaker 2: there in the reunion there like you are absolutely a

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Speaker 2: pick me girl. Well, so, I I don't know why

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Speaker 2: she keeps being so defensive because you did the wrong thing.

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Speaker 3: That was Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The first sign of someone lying or not doing is

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Speaker 2: the defensive it's okay, Like yeah, and I don't.

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Speaker 3: Believe that you guys are not.

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Speaker 2: You didn't make out talking till five and am in

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Speaker 2: the morning. I still like, even if you didn't, you

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Speaker 2: still slid into the DMS. You still rode off on

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Speaker 2: a jet ski ten minutes. Say that's wrong, Like at

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Speaker 2: least to own it now, Like I've like, you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously I haven't had the squeaky clean whatever, but now

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Speaker 2: I can look back and up that was wrong. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: you know she brought her body glitter and her defense

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Speaker 2: to the reunion.

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Speaker 3: Did anybody notice the immense amount of body glitter? Just

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Speaker 3: me cool, go back rewind the tape. So that bothered

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Speaker 3: me but yeah, he was just Hannah said, so much

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Speaker 3: body glitter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel and I do. I feel bad because

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Speaker 2: I don't. I hate that people are getting hate and

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Speaker 2: end of the day, I want everyone to be happy.

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Speaker 2: I just wish people would take accountability. That's my thing.

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Speaker 2: Like I even even to the one ex boyfriend that

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Speaker 2: I don't have a good religion pass with, and I don't.

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Speaker 2: I just want people to stop calling other people crazy

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Speaker 2: when they had a they had something to do with

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Speaker 2: it as well that they had they brought their own

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Speaker 2: crazy as well and then didn't say sorry. That's the

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Speaker 2: That well, and I think that's smart too because once

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Speaker 5: and they end up leaving on their own terms. So

437
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 5: it's not all fifteen men and all fifteen women don't

438
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 5: make it to day ten. People are kind of leaving

439
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 5: or being sent home throughout the process, like if they

440
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 5: choose to leave or if they don't have a connection

441
00:20:59,000 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 5: like that kind of thing.

442
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,719
Speaker 2: Does it feel a little like, not not officially, but

443
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 2: does it in incentivize people to like want to make

444
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 2: a connection because you don't want to go home?

445
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,919
Speaker 5: Some people, Yes, I think some people will try and

446
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 5: stay and cling on Once you see like people being

447
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 5: sent home because they don't have connections and they want

448
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 5: to free up more time in the pods for the

449
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 5: people who do. You can kind of see certain people

450
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 5: trying to like cling on to anything, but the producers

451
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 5: are really believe it or not really good at like

452
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 5: leading those out most of the time, people that are

453
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 5: just there for the wrong reasons. Love is Blind. I

454
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 5: don't know about other shows, but I can't say Love

455
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 5: is Blind. It's unscripted and they try and make it

456
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 5: like very real.

457
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if they did this probably on purpose

458
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 2: this season, but even down to like the reunion, I

459
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 2: felt so much like Love Is Blind became more of

460
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 2: this like credible experience or they're trying to frame it

461
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 2: that way, Like it felt like they're was more put

462
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 2: into it. I think we all started watching it. I

463
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 2: think wasn't when the first episodes like COVID or something,

464
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 2: which is probably why I was in like the first season,

465
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 2: but it felt like this time they really tried to

466
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: frame it to be like this like very credible experiment.

467
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: When Nick kept saying, like, look, how many people are

468
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 2: married now in the show.

469
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: So does it feel like that to you?

470
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 2: Did it like on your side, the casting side, the

471
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: day to day side, did it feel like you were

472
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: like in a real experiment or did you or did

473
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 2: it feel more TV like or maybe right in the middle, No,

474
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 2: it felt very real.

475
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 5: I mean, it's so real, it's like while you're in it,

476
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 5: it's hard to see out of it. But I think

477
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 5: as far as the reunion goes, I think they were

478
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 5: trying to make an example of the people who don't

479
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 5: do it for the right reasons, because you know, no

480
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 5: matter what they do, those kind of people are always

481
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 5: going to be there trying to like make their own

482
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 5: way with it. But as far as love is blind,

483
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 5: it is very real. I mean, and they've had real

484
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 5: relationships and marriages come out of it. And I think

485
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 5: that's the despite all the drama and all of that

486
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 5: being fun to watch the premise of the show, and

487
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 5: the goal of the show is to highlight real relationships

488
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 5: and marriages, and I think that's what they want.

489
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: And you felt that credibility, right, you can feel that

490
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 2: credibility on your side.

491
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 5: I mean, yes, yes, I mean for a large portion

492
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 5: of the time, I had wished that my journey had

493
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 5: turned out differently on the show, because I went into

494
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 5: it with the only expectation of my mind being like,

495
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 5: I'm getting married. I didn't think anything else is going

496
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 5: to happen for me. But now I know I'm on

497
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,959
Speaker 5: the other side of it, and I'm like, Okay, everything

498
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 5: still happens the way it's supposed to, and the people

499
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 5: who were meant to be together are together.

500
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 3: Amend that.

501
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: Speaking of dms, and you know Sarah Ann's DMS. Is

502
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: there someone that you've slid into a DM since this

503
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 2: process and who would you want to slide into your DMS.

504
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 5: I don't slide into DMS.

505
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 3: That does not shock me.

506
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 5: Actually no, contrary the popular belief, because it seemed like

507
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 5: I was the one doing all the pursuing on Love

508
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 5: is Blind. That's the only time I've ever put myself

509
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 5: out there like that, Like typically I'm like, okay, well

510
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 5: you can come and sweep me off my feet, like

511
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 5: I love that.

512
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: Now. That feels on brand.

513
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: No matter how it was edited, that's exactly how you

514
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: were perceived on the on the sofas I know.

515
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 5: And I'm not gonna lie. I mean I was. I

516
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 5: really laid it all out there, and I was more

517
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 5: of a pursuer than he was. But that was just

518
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 5: me trying something different because clearly before Love is Blind

519
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,479
Speaker 5: it had it worked out. So I was just like, okay, well,

520
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 5: the only way someone is going to be able to

521
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 5: fully love me and know me is if I just

522
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 5: put all of myself out there. So I did. I

523
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 5: think that was the wrong thing to do, But I

524
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 5: think in the future I'm going to kind of lead

525
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 5: more with Okay, I'm the prize, I'm the one who

526
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 5: needs to be getting pursued so I haven't slid into

527
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 5: anyone's DMS.

528
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: And you've been busy though, Jess, I know you can't

529
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 2: probably tell us much, but you've been vacationing and such.

530
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 5: No, I've been vacationing.

531
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 3: Is that true? Would that be? Where would we? How

532
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: do I?

533
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're allowed to say or and

534
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to put you in a position where

535
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 2: you can't say I haven't had a CMZ was busy?

536
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you want to pass totally right? Yeah, you

537
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: want to exit our pod again.

538
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 5: I'm not going to enter the chat on that one yet.

539
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough, fair enough? What is your type?

540
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 5: My typical type is like a very tall, dark and

541
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 5: handsome a beard. I have to have a beard, like

542
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 5: that's a non.

543
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: Can Jimmy even grow a beard?

544
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: I don't think we have one now because he heard

545
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 2: you say that somewhere.

546
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 5: Are you on better?

547
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: Are you on better terms now?

548
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: Because I know in the reunion you said you know

549
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 2: you thought you were good, but then he said that

550
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: one interview, so.

551
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 5: He did apologize backstage after that's good reaing was filmed,

552
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 5: which I was like Initially, I was like, no, like,

553
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 5: don't come and be nice to me now, and then

554
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 5: he was just like, well, I'm not as good with

555
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 5: interviews as you are.

556
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, yeah, we know, Jimmy. We watched

557
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: the season, James, and it's like.

558
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 5: I don't really feel those I don't feel those things

559
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 5: that I said. I don't think that you're a mean girl.

560
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 5: And I was like, well, I know that I'm not,

561
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 5: but you know you're choosing to go on very large

562
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 5: platforms and say these things, and you know people are

563
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 5: just waiting to see the rug pulled out from underneath me,

564
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 5: so that makes me look really bad Jimmy, And he's like, well,

565
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 5: he's like, what would make you feel better? Like should

566
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 5: I stitch one of my videos? And I'm like, I'm

567
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 5: going to ask you to do that and he's like

568
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 5: I will and so we'll see.

569
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: Has he okay? No, all right, wait, Jimmy Chelsea together?

570
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I kind of fast forward through

571
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: that part. Are Jimmy and Chelsea together?

572
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 5: Still?

573
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: They're not?

574
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: Right?

575
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 5: I don't think so. But like the initial question was,

576
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 5: are he and I are good terms? We just don't

577
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 5: don't speak at all, Like we don't really we don't

578
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 5: have anything to do with each other he.

579
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: Does not have.

580
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: He's not your type. Yeah, no beard, no real beard,

581
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 2: A lot of things that he didn't.

582
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 5: Yeah. Physically yes, like very tall, like six to twne

583
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 5: over beard. I love like a sleeve of tattoos. But

584
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 5: that's like just physically, but like characteristics wives, like someone

585
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 5: who's really kind above most other things. They have to

586
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 5: be funny, Like someone who's funny. Like that's what gets me.

587
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 5: Like if it doesn't matter how beautiful they are, if

588
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 5: they don't have a good sense of humor, like I can't,

589
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 5: it won't work for me because you're funny.

590
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: I think.

591
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: What's what's hard too, And I kind of get why

592
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: you were upset about Jimmy doing that interview is because

593
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: people are already gonna hate you because you're beautiful, and

594
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: they're gonna hate you even more if they have any ammunition.

595
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: I hate you from other people, right, So, like the

596
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 2: second someone says and they're like I knew it, she's

597
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: just like because because you're beautiful.

598
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 5: I don't think it's because I'm beautiful. I think it's

599
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 5: because like in the position I was put in initially,

600
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 5: when like I had so many interviews and I had

601
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 5: so many large platforms to speak on initially before the

602
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 5: rest of the cast did. A lot of people in

603
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 5: my position, especially heartbroken, would have taken every opportunity to

604
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 5: take a day at him. And there's a lot of

605
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 5: things I could have said, but just never would have

606
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 5: because I think the worst thing you could do to

607
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 5: someone is speak their name into a room where they're

608
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 5: not there to defend themselves. It's like throwing a rock

609
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 5: and hiding your hands, Like I wouldn't want someone to

610
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 5: do that to me. So I never did that to him.

611
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 5: So that's why I was upset, because I was just like,

612
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 5: listen if you and I had no idea he felt

613
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 5: those things. Like I said at the reunion, I was like,

614
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 5: I did think we were on good terms. Where the

615
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 5: heck did that come from? But now it's neither here

616
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 5: nor there, and I'm not losing her leave over it.

617
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 5: I was just like, all right, watch.

618
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: Your mouth, but you and chel see our friends.

619
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 5: Yes?

620
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: Are you friends with A D two?

621
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: Yes?

622
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 5: I love A.

623
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: Do you want her to be with Clay? Because I do.

624
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: I just still see it, and I don't like whatever,

625
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: I just like I see their connection and I just

626
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: I cried when he cried in the reunion. I was like,

627
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: I believe him when he's he's he's just going through it.

628
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: I do. I feel for him. I do too.

629
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 5: Together. I love them so much. And if you could

630
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 5: see them together in person, like they're magnetic is the

631
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 5: word I was gonna say electric, but magnetic. They could

632
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 5: be on completely opposite sides of the universe and they

633
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 5: just like gravitate towards each other. And like the softness

634
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 5: he brings out of her, and like the maturity and

635
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 5: like the manliness that she brings out of him. Like

636
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 5: it's just so. I love them together, but I know,

637
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 5: you know, a d deserves a lot more than she

638
00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 5: got at the wedding. But again, it's there relationship. I

639
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 5: don't want to speak too much on it, but I

640
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 5: would be lying if I said I wasn't still holding

641
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 5: out on hope for them. I love them together.

642
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: They're going to get back together. I'm gonna I like,

643
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: I know he has red flags, but I not bad enough.

644
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: Like it's not like he did her dirty and cheated

645
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: on her, and like you know what I mean, He's

646
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: just not perfect like every other dude. They're not perfect.

647
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: You know, they have their He's got to he's doing therapy,

648
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: he's trying. I love that in a man that can

649
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: be like I'm going to therapy exactly.

650
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 5: I think for then it may have been a case

651
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 5: of like right person, but wrong time.

652
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

653
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Clay in five years is also maybe

654
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: extra handsome and sophisticated. She's just so mature and so

655
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: poised and put together, and she has so much clarity,

656
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: and I just I think he I feel like my

657
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: perception is he's very inspired by her, which I love,

658
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: but I'm also like, we need to raise a boy

659
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: but correct.

660
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I felt.

661
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think and we saw that some of the

662
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 5: things that he was struggling with that he didn't even

663
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 5: know he needed to work through before marriage. He was

664
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 5: just kind of going through the emotions in real time

665
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 5: and we all saw that. And he's like, I want

666
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 5: to view with her. I want to marry her, just

667
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 5: not right now. And there's like pro there were pros

668
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 5: and cons to it, because had he married her and

669
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 5: not been the kind of man that she needed, then

670
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 5: that could have brought on its own world of problems.

671
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 5: You know. I think everyone was just wishing he came

672
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 5: to that conclusion before they got to the altar.

673
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: But I mean that's like a month after actually if

674
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: you take it outside of the pods, Like that's what

675
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: like a month that he had to make that decision.

676
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: Like that's so fast, you know what I mean. Yeah,

677
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: So it's like I also feel for that too, Like

678
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: I get it. It's part of the show and it's

679
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: your life, you know, Like I wish I could take

680
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: back a few marriages and taken a bigger like step,

681
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: so like imagine a month.

682
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like rd y, Yeah, Like

683
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 3: I actually.

684
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: Thought it was quite handsome of him to say I

685
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: would have liked him to have pulled her aside before

686
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: he walked down the aisle.

687
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: That's a little embarrassing, quite embarrassing.

688
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was no bigger queen than ad in

689
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: that gown with that slit up the side exiting the

690
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: playing field. I was like, my girl, but I want

691
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: that for you too, just because like your your storyline.

692
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: I think it was just because like I was like, okay,

693
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: single mom, like I love another single mom at that.

694
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: You know, I'm like, I want you to have that

695
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: redemptive story and you know, and end of story.

696
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 5: And they believe me. No one wants it more than

697
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 5: I do.

698
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: Do you feel closer to that where you are now

699
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: currently in your life?

700
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 5: Like closer the marriage?

701
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

702
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: Did it teach you something about yourself in those pods

703
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: that you think was a skill needed?

704
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, but I have, yes, the only thing being

705
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 5: lead with vulnerability and like I have to and this

706
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 5: is what's tough, and like mothers and single mothers get it,

707
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 5: like I was ready for marriage, but I need to

708
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 5: also be and I want someone to lead me, lead

709
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 5: my life and autumns, but I have to be ready

710
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 5: and willing for someone to do that, and I don't

711
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 5: know how to do that. And Jimmy, I think, is

712
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 5: a great guy and will be a great husband for

713
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 5: someone else, but I don't think he could have been

714
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 5: the type of man to step in and just tell me,

715
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 5: this is what we're doing, this is how we're doing it.

716
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 5: You can rest a little bit and I've got it,

717
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 5: like you've done this for a long time by yourself,

718
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 5: and I've got us from here?

719
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: Is he the one then? That said?

720
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: Because I wrote this down and I didn't say who

721
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: the quote was from, but it says I want to

722
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: be with someone that lets me lead one hundred percent

723
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: of the time, And I just wrote next to it's

724
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 2: so narcissistic. Who said that I was a Jimmy or Jeremy.

725
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: It was one of those two. But that lets me

726
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: lead one hundred percent of the time, like nobody should

727
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: lead one hundred percent of the time.

728
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 5: I don't remember who said that. Sounds familiar, but I

729
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 5: don't know who said that.

730
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 4: But I think it depends on exactly what they I mean, like,

731
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 4: I do believe that a man can lead in a

732
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: marriage at all times. It doesn't mean they're making all decisions,

733
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 4: though I think it to help that It was like,

734
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 4: I don't know, and I didn't watch the show, so

735
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 4: I am just literally hearing what she's saying, and I

736
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 4: don't necessarily take it.

737
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: I don't think like you do.

738
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I'm I'm hearing like if a man said

739
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 5: that to me, take the wheelwy.

740
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: It was definitely not from like a nurturing way. When

741
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: my fay it says yeah, when my fiance is like,

742
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: you know, says you know, I want to, you know,

743
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: help you and support you and take things from your plate,

744
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, like take all, like they take them all.

745
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 2: You know what I mean like help me, but when yeah,

746
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: I don't remember ever being from a good way.

747
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 5: I don't even know how to ask for the help.

748
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 5: I don't even know how to say my plate is

749
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 5: too full? Can you please take something off of it?

750
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. I am ready for marriage, but

751
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 5: I need to be ready to like be able to

752
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 5: be vulnerable and like swallow my pride in that sense,

753
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 5: because a man could come in right now and he

754
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 5: could be the man in my dreams and like be

755
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 5: the man I'm supposed mary and would probably I still

756
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 5: not know it because I'm so I've been single for

757
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 5: so long and I've been I mean, autumns eleven. I've

758
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 5: been doing this with her her whole life. It's going

759
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 5: to take a man coming in and just doing without asking,

760
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 5: if that makes any sense.

761
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: And I think that's really just responsible motherhood. Like you,

762
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: it's you and Autumn, and Autumn is eleven. She's not

763
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: like a baby baby. I mean, it's you two are

764
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: like home me. So whoever it is, I think, well,

765
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: I'll pray over that for you, that they just get

766
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: to be someone that comes in and it doesn't even

767
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: have to feel like there's a shift. It just gets

768
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: to be a relief for both of you.

769
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: Jess, what is what's up next? What are you doing?

770
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: Are you still you know, executive assistant? Like, what's kind

771
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: of your your game plan now that you have this

772
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: following too.

773
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure it out. It's kind of happened

774
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 5: so fast, and this is the first week since everything

775
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 5: that there's not an episode coming on tonight, you know.

776
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 5: But I think I would be silly to make the

777
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 5: most of the platform that's essentially just been given to me.

778
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 5: I never really had aspirations of becoming like an influencer

779
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 5: or having a strong presence on the internet again because

780
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 5: my journey ended in the Pods and I didn't get engaged.

781
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 5: I wasn't one of the main characters on the show.

782
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: I didn't expect to have the following or the eyes

783
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 5: on me that I have. So I'm like, there's a

784
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 5: lot of things that are really important to me, Like

785
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 5: I want to advocate for children in foster care, and

786
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 5: I want to like do more with like the single

787
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 5: mom community, and like I would definitely encourage single parents

788
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 5: to go on reality TV, but there's not a lot

789
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 5: of us who have done it. So I'm like I

790
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 5: wish I had known then what I know now about it.

791
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 5: So I'm like, maybe I'll do something like that, but

792
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 5: I don't know, Like I want to eventually like start

793
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 5: my own business and be a business owner, Like I

794
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 5: have a lot of good ideas, I just don't know

795
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 5: how to execute them quite yet.

796
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: Well, we will be watching out for it because we

797
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: are big fans here, So thank you for coming on

798
00:36:59,520 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: the show.

799
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: We're excited for you.

800
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: We'll be praying for your love life but also just

801
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: for you in autumn and that everything ends up a

802
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: fairy tale for you.

803
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 5: Thank you so much. Thank you for having me

804
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on, girl,