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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to The Philly Show. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Philly Show with Rubenamar Junior, Jim Salisbury,

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Speaker 1: Todd Zulucky. It's Wednesday, August fourteenth, twenty twenty four, part

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Speaker 1: of the Foul Territory Network. Coming to you following probably

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Speaker 1: maybe the worst game of the season, maybe the low

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Speaker 1: point of the Philly season. You would like to think,

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Speaker 1: probably about as bad of a game as I have seen.

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Speaker 1: Is lethargic of a game as I have seen. But

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Speaker 1: I've been sick for the last few days. Feeling better today. Jim,

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Speaker 1: you were actually at the ballpark last night, and I'm

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Speaker 1: just wondering watching on TV. You could hear some booze,

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Speaker 1: you could see the play on the field, obviously, but man,

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Speaker 1: to be in that ballpark last night. You used your

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Speaker 1: press pass to get in. But I can't imagine having

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Speaker 1: paid fifty sixty seventy dollars or more to come and

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Speaker 1: watch this team. Coming off a ten game road trip,

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Speaker 1: You're thinking you're going to see something much better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, forty two thousand plus another sellout. And these folks

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Speaker 2: did not leave a Google review or a Yelp review.

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Speaker 2: They used their lungs, so there were audible booze after

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Speaker 2: eleven pitches when Taiwan Walker started, you know, throwing ball one,

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Speaker 2: ball two, ball eight, and after sixteen pitches there were

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Speaker 2: a lot of booze and he needed thirty four pitches

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Speaker 2: to get through that first inning. Gives up a couple

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Speaker 2: of runs. This booze after the inning, and then there's

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Speaker 2: more booze in the third inning when he gets up

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Speaker 2: a three to two home run to Jake Berger. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the fans were not pleased, nor should they be. Defense

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Speaker 2: was sloppy. Castianos was tardy getting a ball into the

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Speaker 2: infield that costs him an extra base that hurt. Turner

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Speaker 2: made another era Jat made an error. They only got

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Speaker 2: four hits for the night. They did not get a

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Speaker 2: hit was runners in the scoring position. But you know,

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Speaker 2: over three they only had three runners, three opportunities with

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Speaker 2: a runner in scoring position because they just didn't hit

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Speaker 2: young pitcher with you know, subpar stuff just tied them

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Speaker 2: in knots. Very very frustrating evening for the fans. For

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Speaker 2: the players, their body language was really terrible. After that

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Speaker 2: first inning. It almost looked like, you know, Walker gives

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Speaker 2: up a couple early. He's not throwing strikes starting, pitching's

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Speaker 2: not there, and okay, chalk up another loss. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I go back to that sweep of Milwaukee in early

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Speaker 2: June before they went to London. They're now six games

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Speaker 2: under five hundred since that point over fifty six games,

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Speaker 2: which is more than a third of the season. So

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Speaker 2: they have been a poor team really as long as

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Speaker 2: they were the best team in baseball. So what's this

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Speaker 2: final third of the season gonna tell us they need

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Speaker 2: to tighten it up?

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Speaker 3: Because it is quite ugly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I didn't go to the game, but I was

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Speaker 4: watching on TV. I took a day off after me

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Speaker 4: on the road, and I will tell you this, folks,

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Speaker 4: that was an embarrassing baseball game. It's embarrassing to watch

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Speaker 4: them right now because this is this is a team

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Speaker 4: that should be much more talent to be playing much

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Speaker 4: better baseball. This is really kind of as simple as that.

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Speaker 4: Probably the most embarrassing game I've seen this year. I

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Speaker 4: know they've been blown out a few times, but this

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Speaker 4: is the Miami Marlins, no disrespect, but they're not that

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Speaker 4: great of a team, not good enough team, and they

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Speaker 4: shouldn't be necessarily competing all that well with them and

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Speaker 4: the pitcher that they fired out there, Valente Bayoso. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this guy was okay, he mixed it up, but he

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Speaker 4: was flipping it like the what I would call a

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Speaker 4: is a grading system. I mean, he just I'm sorry, man,

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Speaker 4: he had nothing and for them not to be able

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Speaker 4: to make the adjustments. I know that the umpire was

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Speaker 4: giving him some pitches and you know, just you know,

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Speaker 4: and I know hittings difficult, but that was a very

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Speaker 4: very poor offensive performance and a poor defensive performance. They

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Speaker 4: cannot have their shortstop making errors like this on a

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Speaker 4: consistent basis. They just can't have that happen. And you know,

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Speaker 4: just overall, they just have not played very good baseball

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Speaker 4: at all. And you know, and it all really starts

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Speaker 4: with the starting pitching. I've been saying it from the beginning.

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Speaker 4: The starting pitching has been over like the last shoot

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Speaker 4: since July first, their rankings, as far as a staff

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Speaker 4: is concerned, er is twenty eighth in baseball. It's over five.

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Speaker 4: It's like a five to two eight or something like that.

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Speaker 4: I don't have the I think I do have actual

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Speaker 4: exact numbers. I'll pull them up at some point, but

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Speaker 4: it's it's not going to get it done. And if

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Speaker 4: an adjustment is not made, if something doesn't happen. And

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Speaker 4: I think that there is going to be a massive

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Speaker 4: but you're gonna see. If this particular series ends up

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Speaker 4: as ugly as as the first game, I think you're

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Speaker 4: gonna see some massive changes going on. And Dave Dombrowski

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Speaker 4: is just not gonna He's not gonna tolerate it. That's

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Speaker 4: that's my sense of it. I don't know this for sure,

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Speaker 4: because I don't you know, I don't talk to him

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Speaker 4: on a daily basis or anything like that, but just

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Speaker 4: my sense is that this is not acceptable and things

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think all three of us are very patient people

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Speaker 1: because they're around baseball every day and so we know

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Speaker 1: the grind and the marathon that is the season. But

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Speaker 1: it's now reached the point where you can't just say,

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Speaker 1: all right, it's it's a bad few weeks, it's a

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Speaker 1: bad month. The play recently, how good they are, how

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Speaker 1: much money has been invested in this team, the expectations

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Speaker 1: of this team and how they played recently, especially last night.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, if they go out and they threw up

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Speaker 1: another clunker tonight, if they the Nationals come into town

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Speaker 1: and they fight to get a split, you gotta do

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Speaker 1: better than that. I mean, you know, you mentioned Trey Turner.

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Speaker 1: Rubin to me is kind of emblematic of everything that's

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Speaker 1: kind of going on with this team. He was so

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Speaker 1: insanely hot a month ago. We were talking about is

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Speaker 1: he gonna be the first Phillies player to win a

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Speaker 1: batting title since Richie Ashburn. We were talking about he

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Speaker 1: might not win MVP, but he's going to get MVP votes.

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Speaker 1: Now his OPS is, howevering around eight hundred. It's dropped

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Speaker 1: taken that into the field with his defense, he's not

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Speaker 1: running great now. I remember talking to Trey in Seattle

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Speaker 1: there were some situations where he was not doing the

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Speaker 1: things he would normally do, and and he said, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm just you know, trying to

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Speaker 1: be cautious here. So it's like he's not hurt, but

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Speaker 1: he's not running hard all the time. He's being tentative.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that's about. Is that like a

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Speaker 1: Trey Turner on the field. So there's this whole thick

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Speaker 1: and it kind of culminates into what's been going on.

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Speaker 2: So and this should be a this should be a

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Speaker 2: get well home stand, you know, That's what we said. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: God's brought them this, this this soft schedule, this Miami

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Speaker 2: team that has, you know, no disrespect, but a lot

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Speaker 2: of guys we haven't even heard of, and they just

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Speaker 2: they take it to him last night, and then you

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Speaker 3: Got Alumni weekend, and that all means something.

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Speaker 2: They need a good showing because, you know, throughout this

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Speaker 2: homestand need to get it together quickly because the Ruben

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Speaker 2: used the word embarrassing and you know, just I don't

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Speaker 2: care who you're playing against, the quality of play, they're

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Speaker 2: showing right now is an embarrassment to the to the

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Speaker 2: roster that they've assembled, the payroll up and down, people

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Speaker 4: I would love to know. Yeah, I know that John's

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Speaker 4: not happy. I'm sure he's not very happy with the

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Speaker 4: a couple hundred million dollar payroll, whatever the heck it is.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that Dave Dombrowski's not happy. I'm sure that

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Speaker 4: Rob Thompson is not happy. And at some point there's

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Speaker 4: good there's gonna reach you a boiling point and and

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Speaker 4: there's gonna be action. There will be action if if

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Speaker 4: this continues much longer, I've got to.

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Speaker 1: Do something, you know, so no doubt, no, I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say so, uh, if we decided we would ask

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Speaker 1: for listener questions for your questions yesterday and what timing?

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Speaker 1: What's timing for the question? Scott's so, Ruben, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to start with you, and then Jim you can chime

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Speaker 1: in if you want. This is more of an existential,

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Speaker 1: big picture question, Rubin. This is from Ryan sofranco on

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Speaker 1: on X, formerly of Twitter. Rubin, When will the pain

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Speaker 1: go away?

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Speaker 1: When will the paying go away? When will the Phillies?

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Speaker 1: When will the Phillies stop hurting me? Michael on X

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Speaker 4: It's it's a little hurtful for me too, because I

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Speaker 4: had to call them, you know, on the road, and

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Speaker 4: I had to watch this up close and personal, and

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Speaker 4: I know this is a much better team that it's

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Speaker 4: been been displayed. Uh, it's gonna it's gonna turn around

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Speaker 4: when the pitching turns around. They're starting pitching. And if

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Speaker 4: the Seattle Mariners and Seattle Marriers in the first part

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Speaker 4: a good, nice combination going that starting pitching needs to

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Speaker 4: bounce back. If it doesn't, they're in trouble. And they

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Speaker 4: won't and they won't get very far in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: And I know they've performed. All those guys, all the

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Speaker 4: top three guys that performed in the playoffs. But you know,

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Speaker 4: you start thinking about like the possibility of what's going

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Speaker 4: to happen if they really really collapse. There is a

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Speaker 4: possibility that they do not make the playoffs, which is

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Speaker 4: something that was so unthinkable two weeks ago, a month ago,

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Speaker 4: and I got to believe that they will. But it

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Speaker 4: is a possibility because other teams could surpass them.

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Speaker 2: You make the point that starting pitching. I agree, starting

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Speaker 2: pitching needs to get going to the basis for all

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Speaker 2: good teams, and it was the basis for them building

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Speaker 2: the best record base. I would take one phase right now.

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Speaker 2: You know, give me this st okay, I'll take it.

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Speaker 2: Give give me the defense, give me the offense, because

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Speaker 2: they're all flagging right now, and you know, you talk

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it sounds so fatalistic.

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Speaker 2: But this is the sixty year anniversary of sixty four

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Speaker 2: the Eagles had their collapse in in uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: last season, and you know, everybody's talking about this.

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Speaker 3: It's really part of the narrative.

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Speaker 2: Phillies need to stop it now and extricate themselves from

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Speaker 2: this narrative.

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Speaker 3: This collapse narrative, all.

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Speaker 2: These connections to sixty four, all these connections to the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: They need to retake their season and drive their own narrative.

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Speaker 2: And it starts with getting one phase of the game back.

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Speaker 2: Go out there and hit, hit with runs and scoring vision,

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Speaker 2: run around the bases, show some energy, make a great play,

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Speaker 2: You know, even the players, they don't make aras on

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Speaker 2: Consistency, Excuse me, I would just take one phase of

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Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of sixty four Phillies talk. Thankfully,

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four Phillies know nothing about the sixty

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Speaker 1: Well, I remember I was gonna say, Rubin, I remember

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Speaker 2: They need to extricate themselves from this narrative, and it

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Speaker 4: Jim.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not into I'm not there where you

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Speaker 4: I think there's got to be there's gotta be some change.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure it's going to be considered. Everybody's being evaluated

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Speaker 3: Can you believe we're even talking about this?

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Speaker 2: Crazy once ago there's doing flying high talking one hundred

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Speaker 1: Are they gonna run down the two thousand and one

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Speaker 4: Right, it's amazing that that's the game of baseball, guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you can't be beat?

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Speaker 2: Oh one hundred most wins ever, like the baseball dodge man,

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Speaker 3: Spiteful it's maybe they like Roe Hoss.

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Speaker 2: After they swept the Dodgers, Johann Rojas was beating his

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Speaker 4: What you like Garrett Stubbs dropped the old swimming in

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, I gotta go on dictionary dot com and look.

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Speaker 1: So wait a second. So you guys both and I

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Speaker 1: everything was shut down. The Phillies charter flight lands in

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Speaker 4: I can't I can't talk speak to what's going on

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Speaker 4: but you know, I don't think it wasn't It wasn't

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Speaker 4: I think Greg Gross took over, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 4: You know, things changed and things got a little bit better.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's the reason necessarily, but sometimes

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Speaker 3: I know that I remember that that was really tough

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Speaker 4: Very difficult. He's a great teammate, wonderful person. I mean, I'm,

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Speaker 1: He knows hitting what that was? That was twenty ten,

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Speaker 2: It was akin to well, we talked about rolling a

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Speaker 3: I ended up turning around.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know what the numbers were.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what happened after that. I know, I

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Speaker 3: I don't think this team is there yet.

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Speaker 2: But again, yeah, continue to fall on your face in

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Speaker 4: a fifty percent strikeout or sixty percent strikeout rate for

434
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Speaker 4: the last in the last ten games, some crazy Thomber.

435
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Speaker 1: It's a big number so in baseball this season. I

436
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: look this up last night at players with a minimum

437
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Speaker 1: of three hundred played appearances, he's got the fifth highest

438
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: strikeout rate in Major League Baseball thirty two point eight percent.

439
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 1: One out of every three at bats ends in a strikeout.

440
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Speaker 1: For him, it's thirty eight point five percent. Since he

441
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Speaker 1: came back from the Ile on June fifteenth. That's the

442
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: second highest in baseball. Will Ben will Benson from Cincinnati

443
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: is the only guy higher. He has batted two oh

444
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Speaker 1: one with a six forty one OPS since he came

445
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: back from the Ile in mid June. Since July twelfth,

446
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: that's since the Dodgers sweep at home, he's betting one

447
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: ninety eight a four to twenty eight ops. So that's terrible.

448
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 4: That's it's not gonna done. Yeah, and he's and he's

449
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 4: a much more talented player than that, but he's just

450
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 4: not getting it done. I think sometimes either you just

451
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 4: need to sit down and watch a few games, or

452
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 4: you know, something has to happen where he just needs

453
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 4: to have a little bit of a mental shift because

454
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 4: right now he's not He's not playing the type of

455
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Speaker 4: brand of baseball that you would expect of this player.

456
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Speaker 1: Right So this is from Fighting's talk on X. Why

457
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: hasn't Taiwan Walker been DFA yet? I'll hang up and listen. Thanks.

458
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of a lot of Taiwan Walker.

459
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean I could have picked fifteen Taiwan Walker questions

460
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Speaker 1: on Instagram, Facebook X because because you know, go ahead, Jim.

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Speaker 3: No, it's the need for pitching depth.

462
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: Pitching depth is hard to find, and he's a big,

463
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 2: big contract, owed a lot of money.

464
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Speaker 3: I think that's why.

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Speaker 2: And then you know they need the pitching depth and

466
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 2: they have the financial commitment, they're going to ride it

467
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Speaker 2: out a little longer.

468
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Speaker 3: But it's a fair question.

469
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Speaker 4: Yeah, since the first season with Taiwan, he just really

470
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 4: hasn't been the same pitcher. Not there's not much on

471
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 4: the baseball right now. I don't see a whole lot

472
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 4: of life on his stuff. And I know he's working

473
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 4: hard to try to get back to that place. I

474
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 4: just haven't seen it. And hopefully it can bounce back.

475
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 4: But they've been hoping, hoping for a long time. It

476
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 4: just doesn't seem like it's his armor is responding.

477
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Speaker 2: If they had reasonable pitching depth, do you think they

478
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 2: would eat two years on that big contract, Groven.

479
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Speaker 4: I think they would. I think they would if they

480
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 4: if they felt like he was good to bounce back,

481
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Speaker 4: that they really in their hearts, heart of hearts, they would.

482
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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you know there was there was another question

483
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: on there. Uh And I did not put this one

484
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: down because to me, it was just too obvious. But

485
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: it was a question regarding mick Abel. Why isn't he

486
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: gotten an opportunity. Well, it's obvious he has not pitched

487
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: well all season long. Now if mick Abel is doing

488
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: his job or performing as the Phillies had hoped, I

489
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: mean they were talking about mid season last year, talking

490
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Speaker 1: about maybe he could make a push in the second

491
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: half to help this team out. Now he's not even

492
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: in the not even remotely in the conversation to help

493
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: this team.

494
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 4: Again, this is why, this is why prospects are prospects.

495
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 4: And he's got great talent. But this game is a

496
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 4: very mental game. It's a development game. It is that

497
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 4: you just never know which guy can figure it out

498
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 4: mentally to perform to expectation. I watched hundreds upon thousands

499
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 4: of players that I played with or against in the

500
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 4: minor leagues who had uber talent, who could not get

501
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 4: past double A. And it's the reason is because the

502
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 4: game can wear on you so difficult. It's so difficult

503
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 4: mentally for you to be able to perform to what

504
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 4: your body is able to do, to have your brain

505
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 4: work to make your body do what it's supposed to do,

506
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 4: and hopefully the young man can bounce back. And I

507
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 4: mean when you have that kind of talent, I mean

508
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 4: you're hoping that it's at some point it develops and

509
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 4: comes out. Sometimes it takes longer, sometimes it's a real

510
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 4: short time span. But that's why prospects are prospects. And

511
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 4: that's why I trade prospects for talent that's doing the

512
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 4: job in the major league and.

513
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Speaker 2: His lack of development or slow development, whatever you want,

514
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: it's affecting this team the twenty twenty fourteen because he

515
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 2: should be knocking at the door, he should be stepping

516
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: over the threshold. He should be filling, you know, it

517
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: should be got to that point of his career where

518
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: he's able to fill that breach, be depth, be maybe

519
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: more than depth put heat on Taiwan Walker, allow them

520
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: to sit upstairs and say, Okay, is it time to

521
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: say goodbye to Taiwan Walker. I mean, I remember Jamie Moyer.

522
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: He used to a couple of spring trainings when he

523
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: was here. He'd go over and talk to the monerorn

524
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: leaguers at the complex about you know, perseverance, just about

525
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: getting to the big leagues, about making that next step.

526
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: He would talk about early in his career the challenges

527
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: he had to overcome physically, mentally.

528
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: But he would.

529
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: Always kind of punctuate his conversation with these minor league

530
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: pitching prospects by saying, people ask me all the time,

531
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: why am I pitching at age forty four? Why am

532
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: I pitching at age forty five? And he's say, the

533
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: reason I'm pitching at age forty four and forty five

534
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 2: is because.

535
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: None of you guys have come and taken my job.

536
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: So truth, great answer, come up.

537
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: Truth, I think the jobs of players who are not

538
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: performing well, And honestly, that's just what happened with this team.

539
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: Rubin. What do you think? This is from a Phil's

540
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: fan DLR on Instagram. What do you think Dallas Green

541
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: would have done if you were managing this team right now,

542
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: he probably think Dallas. I don't think Dallas would have

543
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: lasted in this in this era, no.

544
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Speaker 4: I mean guys like Dallas, and and and Larry Boo,

545
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 4: guys who sort of wear their hearts on their sleeve

546
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 4: and are I mean and Dallas was probably a little

547
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 4: bit more judicious when he made his you know, made

548
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 4: his pleas to the team or made his stance. I

549
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 4: think he would have been pretty vocal. I think there

550
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 4: would be after a ballgame, sort of like this last

551
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 4: ball game, he probably would have flipped a table or two.

552
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 4: But I don't think he would have done it like

553
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: twenty times, but he would have. He would have let

554
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 4: people know his displeasure in the type of on the

555
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 4: brand of baseball that was being played. It's a different era.

556
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 4: Guys take things differently. I think when he came down

557
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 4: in eighty, I mean, the players hated him, players didn't

558
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 4: like him, but he challenged them. And back then, when

559
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 4: you got challenged, if you were if you were a

560
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 4: real competitor, then you challenged back. And that's exactly what

561
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 4: that team did, and that's one of the reasons why

562
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 4: they had so much success. Now, it's a different sort

563
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: of mindset. When you're challenged, there's a tendency to back

564
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: down and to you know, view that as a affront.

565
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 4: And and I don't think that people handled that sort

566
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 4: of criticism as well.

567
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: And I think people want Rob Thompson to be Dallas

568
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: Green right now. And I don't necessarily feel.

569
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Speaker 4: That it's not his personality.

570
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: It's not his personality. And also and I think people

571
00:29:54,440 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: take calmness and postgame comments to mean indifference or I'm

572
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: just gonna stay the course and I don't care. And

573
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: I you know, I don't even see what you guys see.

574
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: I that's not what Rob Thompson is thinking. And that's

575
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: not how he's talking to his players. He will get

576
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: on his players behind closed doors, but he's not going

577
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: to come out post game and say Trey Turner is

578
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: better get his act together, or this is you know,

579
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: this player is an embarrassment to me and Phillies fans

580
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: should have every right to boo this player X because

581
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: he stinks right now. That's not who Rob Thompson is. No,

582
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: it does not mean he does not care. It does

583
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: not mean he does not care.

584
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: I got let me just say this about Rob Thompson.

585
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 4: I love Rob Thompson. I love everything about him. I

586
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 4: love the I love his overall development. I love where

587
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 4: he can come from. I love where he is. I

588
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 4: love the way that he handles the media. And I

589
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 4: don't people think it's like, you know, it's too flatline

590
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 4: for him, but that's what plays in the clubhouse number

591
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 4: one and number two. He cares. Believe me, he cares.

592
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 4: This Canadian is not happy about what's going on on

593
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 4: the field. I guarantee you and and I know that

594
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 4: he's addressed some things and he will continue to address

595
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 4: some things. He just handles things a lot differently than

596
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 4: you know what, you know what maybe the fans would expect.

597
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 4: But this, this is a This is a good leader.

598
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 4: This is a great leader. This is a good person

599
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: and a great baseball man. And I believe in what

600
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 4: he's and how he goes about it. And at some point,

601
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 4: at some point, and I don't know what that's gonna be,

602
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 4: and I know some things have been addressed. It may

603
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: be dressed on a on a on a bigger scale.

604
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: If this continues, If this continues, I'm gonna make a

605
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: prediction that he gets booted one of these nights and

606
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: goes off and stomps off the field and and and

607
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: does something like that. But you know, you mentioned Dallas,

608
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: you mentioned BAA. It's a different era, but god, I

609
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: would love to see the blow up. It would be great.

610
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: It's entertainment. I've seen a few of them, and I

611
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: might even been the victim of a few of them.

612
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: But that's fine.

613
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 4: Fine.

614
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: I have to digress and offer an anecdote that I

615
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: heard at the ballpark last night. Larry Boa ejected for

616
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: many a ball game by many of umpire. Apparently was

617
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: recently ejected from an uber. Ah, you're gonna have to.

618
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: Do some reporting and find out the details. I gotta

619
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: find out.

620
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 4: I'll have to talk to Patty about that one.

621
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: Apparently it was raining and he was having trouble with

622
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: the door, and he closed the door too hard because

623
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: he was worried about rain getting in the driver's car,

624
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: and the driver didn't like that and said, got.

625
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: A here are you kidding me?

626
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? And that messes And I'm sure that messed up.

627
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: Bo is Larry's five star rating.

628
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta get the five.

629
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 4: He may not get another ride. He's gonna be waiting

630
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 4: for hours for an Uber now.

631
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: Larry Somatic perfect. So you know what I said to him?

632
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: I said, who is the driver, Bob Davidson.

633
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: Larry's gonna have to go over to lift now He's

634
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: gonna have to switch accounts, gonna shove back and forth.

635
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: So let's let's wrap up. Two more questions.

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00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

637
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: This is from six dough on x Jim. Have the

638
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: past two months caused Jim? Have the past two months

639
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: caused Jim to regret ending his sabbatical.

640
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: No, because it's great to be back hanging with you

641
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: guys and and reading all six toughs incredibly hilarious tweets

642
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: his his caustic wit so No, I love the game

643
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: of baseball and it's it's it's whether they're winning and losing.

644
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,239
Speaker 2: It's so fun to to watch and chat with you

645
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: guys about it.

646
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: Way better having at the ballpark, Jim. And this last

647
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: one is from Sophia Amorro on Instagram. It just says,

648
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: what a no way she did?

649
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: Not?

650
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: That is what are you gonna?

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Speaker 4: What's up? As My two kids are living with me again,

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Speaker 4: which is kind of cool, man. They're living with me

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Speaker 4: at least briefly before my eldest goes back up north.

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Speaker 4: But Sophia and Andrea are working together and same company.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of cool. And uh and I have them

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Speaker 4: together here uh in Philly. It's pretty cool. That's what's up. Uh,

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Speaker 4: that's funny, hardwired into your wallet? Uh, deeply, deeply. I Meanwhile,

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Speaker 4: they're both making more money than I am.

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 3: That means he did a good job.

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Speaker 2: Ruben's daughters when they were yay Hi, running around the

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Speaker 2: Crescent Beach Club with my kids in spring training way

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Speaker 2: back when, Oh my goodness, you're getting old, my friends,

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Speaker 2: Yeah we are.

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Speaker 1: That is weird. Like and you see, like your daughter's

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Speaker 1: Ruben like fully grown. You see like Dalton Varshow making

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Speaker 1: a diving catch in left fields. I remember him a

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Speaker 1: little tiny kid just out there hitting his dad, hitting

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Speaker 1: fungos to him a Citizens Bank Park when it first opened, Like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, that guy's really he's a good big leaguer.

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Speaker 4: Now about Billy, about Billy Wagner's Billy Wagner's kid, How

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Speaker 4: crazy was that?

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Speaker 1: That is wild? Yeah, So you know, maybe that's what's up.

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Speaker 1: That's what's up. Maybe the Phillip maybe the Phillis will

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Speaker 1: pick it up. Beginning to night beginning tonight at Citizens

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Speaker 1: Bank Park against the Marrows. We'll be back later this week.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the tone will have shifted, guys. Maybe so thanks, Thanks, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you guys later. Seeing later in the week,

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Speaker 1: Smelling later, guys.

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