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Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 2: He's a professor.
Speaker 5: I'm tempted to move forward to this Giants game, but
Speaker 5: I still have to. I think talking about talking gather
Speaker 5: Ram right, I just can't get over a few things.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm back. It's way too loud.
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Speaker 3: I think they don't use headsets. Oh okay, so.
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Speaker 3: we are two days later, and we'll not quite to full.
Speaker 3: Two days later, Nicky still wants to talk about what
Speaker 3: happened in Philadelphia.
Speaker 5: You know, uh, I was just watching the brotherly shove
Speaker 5: touchdown of Hurts, right. I think you have to make
Speaker 5: them do something different by how you line up. When
Speaker 5: I went back and looked at it, and I don't care.
Speaker 5: You know, do you want to count Marquise Bell as
Speaker 5: a linebacker or.
Speaker 4: A defensive back?
Speaker 5: But if he's kind of the size of a safety.
Speaker 5: The Cowboys had on that play from the one yard line,
Speaker 5: six defensive backs in the game, and they're pushing.
Speaker 2: With eight guys over fifty and.
Speaker 5: I think one there was one. I saw an eighty
Speaker 5: in there that was Julio Jones. The rest of them
Speaker 5: were all line tight ends and offensive linemen.
Speaker 3: You know, that's sort of by design. They make sure
Speaker 3: that they've got the personnel grouping in even before that
Speaker 3: I want them they're versaal enough personnel, and they don't.
Speaker 3: They don't substitute.
Speaker 6: Well, they the two Julio Jones is or whoever, they're
Speaker 6: the ones that are back there pushing.
Speaker 5: Well, no, he was on the line of scrimmage. There
Speaker 5: were two smaller guys doing the push.
Speaker 2: So Julio Jones is down there pushing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was on the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: So but you can't jump on top of it. You
Speaker 3: get just blown out.
Speaker 5: And that's what they were doing.
Speaker 6: They were jumping on to you have to.
Speaker 3: It's like that's like riding an ocean wave.
Speaker 5: I'm going to know.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make all you want. They're going to just
Speaker 2: carry it.
Speaker 4: I'm going to make that execute.
Speaker 5: He's got to see it to come out from under
Speaker 5: center and throw a pass. I'm going to put every
Speaker 5: big guy I got on the field in front of him,
Speaker 5: not six DB's pushing from behind.
Speaker 6: So if you do that, then everyone's going to be
Speaker 6: you know, down, you know, diving into the ground, and
Speaker 6: he's going to have all day.
Speaker 5: To pull it out to I want to make him
Speaker 5: do that. I want to execute.
Speaker 6: And that's why I guess that's why Julio Jones would
Speaker 6: be in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in case they decide to change it up.
Speaker 5: It's like it's like back in the day when we
Speaker 5: had tugle wars, you didn't put all the little guys
Speaker 5: in the front.
Speaker 3: Right, was not on the tug war te.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was there. I couldn't see it.
Speaker 5: I just think you got to make them do something different.
Speaker 5: That's all they're gonna score if they do it. What
Speaker 5: they've been doing, right, I think they've only failed like
Speaker 5: once or twice. Do something different, you know.
Speaker 3: And don't let them get in third and fourth and.
Speaker 4: Fourth and one.
Speaker 7: It works for them. They're just that team that they
Speaker 7: make it work.
Speaker 3: That's the thing.
Speaker 5: I got to make them do something different. I'm putting
Speaker 5: every big guy I got.
Speaker 2: Well, I got bacon. They can counted that all they
Speaker 2: can count.
Speaker 5: I want to see it because I can't counter what
Speaker 5: I'm doing right right right, I'm putting Nate Newton right
Speaker 5: on the ball.
Speaker 3: Right that's you know, how you keep them from doing it?
Speaker 3: You win first and second, I.
Speaker 2: Know, don't. You don't let them get get to a
Speaker 2: fourth and one or thirty one.
Speaker 5: But at some point they're they're going to get in it.
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, Micah almost did it. What I
Speaker 5: told him, I didn't tell him. I was telling you, guys,
Speaker 5: you jump over the top and you horse collar hurts
Speaker 5: if you can get your hands on them. Because they
Speaker 5: got everybody else on top and.
Speaker 3: Pushing all right to the point of winning first and
Speaker 3: second down. Let's just take first down.
Speaker 5: Well, they didn't win third down.
Speaker 3: I added this up during the game at the end
Speaker 3: of the third quarter, when the Cowboys took over one
Speaker 3: thirteen left in the third that was after their Philadelphia's
Speaker 3: last touchdown, which made it twenty eight to seventeen. Here
Speaker 3: was the yardage on first down in the game Philadelphia had,
Speaker 3: and this includes every first down including penalty first downs. Okay,
Speaker 3: twenty three first down plays they had one hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty nine yards. The Cowboys at that point in the
Speaker 3: game had fifteen first down plays for twenty nine yards. Okay,
Speaker 3: So Cowboys were averaging less than two yards to carry
Speaker 3: on first down. And I'll have to get my calculator
Speaker 3: out for Philadelphia twenty three for one thirty nine.
Speaker 5: So and that's dan Quinn yesterday was talking about two
Speaker 5: things that you know that they had to be.
Speaker 3: Six yards of carry on first down first six yards
Speaker 3: of play on first down.
Speaker 5: So he was saying that number one, one of the
Speaker 5: things we do well defensively take the ball away and
Speaker 5: we didn't. And number two, we were good on third
Speaker 5: down and we weren't because they were fifty percent on
Speaker 5: third down, and if you throw in two fourth downs,
Speaker 5: then they were nine of sixteen on third and fourth
Speaker 5: down combined. And that's what he said. If you know,
Speaker 5: when we play him again, we got to be put
Speaker 5: better at those two aspects.
Speaker 3: And my point on it is, Yeah, when you're better
Speaker 3: on third down, it's usually because you're.
Speaker 4: Good on first and second.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're third and short.
Speaker 6: So uh, you know we so we didn't win at
Speaker 6: the two goals that we said defense needs to okay, right,
Speaker 6: and yet we still had a chance to win their game.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So that's why all those numbers in stat they only
Speaker 6: take you so far. After a while, you just gotta
Speaker 6: make your play.
Speaker 2: You gotta play football. That's just it. I love the plan.
Speaker 2: The plan is the plan, as Mike.
Speaker 6: But Mike Tyson said, until you get hit in my
Speaker 6: mouth mouth right, and then everything changes.
Speaker 2: You know, they'll get.
Speaker 6: Big games where we go in there, we're like, man,
Speaker 6: we got this game playing together. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 6: it's our first time seeing Joe Montaylor and the West
Speaker 6: Coast offense, and we're like, what the hell just happened?
Speaker 6: We got be forty five to seventeen. Great game plan
Speaker 6: going in, but sometimes you just gotta play. And this
Speaker 6: game showed that as long as guys can salvage plays
Speaker 6: and become football players, those stats, yes, they can't take
Speaker 6: you far, but they're not gonna win it for you.
Speaker 2: They don't give you an automatic win.
Speaker 5: And when I was going through my own play by
Speaker 5: play at halftime, it reminded me that the Cowboys were
Speaker 5: up seventeen four fourteen. The Cowboys had one hundred and
Speaker 5: seventy total yards. Philadelphia had one hundred.
Speaker 4: And fifty eight.
Speaker 5: Dak was ten of sixteen for one twenty three and
Speaker 5: two touchdowns. Hurts was ten of thirteen for one hundred
Speaker 5: and twenty yards. Uh Dak had a one thirty three
Speaker 5: point six quarterback rating at halftime. The other thing that
Speaker 5: stood out to me is aj Brown had five catches
Speaker 5: for fifty seven yards, but their wide receivers in the
Speaker 5: first half only had seven catches. He had five of them.
Speaker 5: So they were they were almost, I want to say dominating,
Speaker 5: but they were beaten in control right, yeah until the
Speaker 5: third quarter.
Speaker 3: Until the first possession of the third quarter, and then
Speaker 3: a wide receiver DeVante touchdown and then a twenty nine
Speaker 3: yard touchdown for the lead. And then now Boys only
Speaker 3: had seven offensive plays in the third quarter, one possession,
Speaker 3: Philadelphia had two scoring touchdown drives.
Speaker 5: And the opening kickoff for the third quarter woes out
Speaker 5: of bounds. Yeah, and they started the forty. So now
Speaker 5: they only got to go.
Speaker 3: Now that was the opening kickoff?
Speaker 4: Was the mask?
Speaker 3: The face mask?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, the face mask.
Speaker 5: So and that also when you pointed out that, you know,
Speaker 5: the Cowboys got the.
Speaker 4: Ball and didn't do anything.
Speaker 3: Well and the reason they didn't do anything.
Speaker 5: And at the forty five and Donald goes twenty six yards, right.
Speaker 3: He went eighteen yards, but it was a ten yards
Speaker 3: to the twenty. Yeah, we went eighteen yards. But there
Speaker 3: was a holding penalty on scoon Maker that was basically
Speaker 3: a twenty eight yard penalty, and.
Speaker 5: It was a BS call. He stunned the guy and
Speaker 5: the guy couldn't go anywhere, and so instead of being
Speaker 5: at the twenty six, now you're at the forty five.
Speaker 5: And they went three and out after that. But there
Speaker 5: were so many different things like that in the game
Speaker 5: that you know, I know, it comes down to, as
Speaker 5: Everson said, making those plays at key times, you know,
Speaker 5: and reminded me in the in the first half the
Speaker 5: was it their first drive, second drive maybe when Sam
Speaker 5: Williams got the sack fumble, the ball on one bounce
Speaker 5: comes right to Hurts, right right.
Speaker 4: To them and they went on to score.
Speaker 5: It's just like what, it's just weird.
Speaker 2: They just continue to go.
Speaker 3: It could have been your ball and then and then
Speaker 3: Micah had a chance.
Speaker 5: They flipped that ball out.
Speaker 6: But he sounds like we feel, sounds just like we
Speaker 6: feel I can't go any first.
Speaker 3: That's how all of Cowboys fans.
Speaker 5: But here's the here's the other part of it, not
Speaker 5: all Cowboy fans, because I bet if you go back
Speaker 5: to your Twitter feed, it's all you know, this guy
Speaker 5: played bad, that guy played bad, that guy played bad,
Speaker 5: get rid of him, get rid of you got to
Speaker 5: make changes, you know, you know, bench Michael Gallup, get
Speaker 5: rid of him, get rid.
Speaker 4: Of Terrence Steele. It just goes on and on and on.
Speaker 5: But when you look inside the game, it's like all
Speaker 5: this goofy stuff happened.
Speaker 6: And that's why coaching and preparation is extremely important, you know,
Speaker 6: because then you become you can prioritize things doing a
Speaker 6: ballgame when you have you know, when you have it
Speaker 6: in your head on what's important and what's not important, right,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Uh, we talked about the
Speaker 6: play itself with the tight end, you know, I mean,
Speaker 6: he's got to be was it that wasn't Ferguson, was
Speaker 6: it on the controversial maker Schoomaker, schoolmaker schoonmaker. You know
Speaker 6: he could have actually run the route better, take one
Speaker 6: more he could have taken one more step deeper, you know,
Speaker 6: just a little things like that. I mean, you can
Speaker 6: talk about guys being open here, being open there. When
Speaker 6: the quarterback is back there, he's got to make that
Speaker 6: decision right now.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't have chance.
Speaker 6: To look at three receivers at once when the blitz
Speaker 6: is coming and you got a one step drop. You know,
Speaker 6: you got to make your decisions out. The ball's got
Speaker 6: to get out us. You're in trouble.
Speaker 7: So everyone's been saying on that play specifically, Brandon Cooks was.
Speaker 5: Open, everybody's open, and yeah.
Speaker 7: But exactly yeah, to your point, he had to get
Speaker 7: the ball out and Luke was the guy at that time.
Speaker 7: If he had only taken one more step forward, this
Speaker 7: would be a.
Speaker 2: Right right, right.
Speaker 6: I mean, when he when he throws the ball to
Speaker 6: Ceedee Lamb, I'm sure Ceedee Lamb is not the only
Speaker 6: person opened on that play.
Speaker 3: Or if we stop the replay, not when the ball
Speaker 3: touches the jersey, but after the guy catches the ball.
Speaker 3: That he's on the goal line, right.
Speaker 5: I mentioned I mentioned your thing to McCarthy after he
Speaker 5: finished it.
Speaker 3: Did you credit me for it?
Speaker 5: I said, you know, Bill Jones said, this goes wrong
Speaker 5: and he goes and he goes like sometimes I just
Speaker 5: give up on what it is and what is it?
Speaker 3: And I said, I asked Dak about it last night.
Speaker 4: What did he say?
Speaker 3: He was like, you know, it's something about cowboys and catches.
Speaker 6: Well, cow boy wasn't passing the finist calls because the
Speaker 6: guy was raped around him before the ball got there,
Speaker 6: or we can just call he was tackling him before
Speaker 6: the ball even.
Speaker 2: And so I told him.
Speaker 5: We talked about another one or two things, and I said, well,
Speaker 5: you wanted to be a head coach, didn't you, And
Speaker 5: he goes, I can't get out now.
Speaker 2: I got to finish.
Speaker 5: I told that the Jason Harrett one day something went
Speaker 5: really wrong and I can't remember what it was, and
Speaker 5: I said, well, you wanted to be a head coach.
Speaker 4: It's like, this is what happens.
Speaker 5: They would have to carry me off the field. I
Speaker 5: wouldn't make it through the game.
Speaker 6: Well, it was so much to look at, and some
Speaker 6: of it was very subtle. So you don't really know
Speaker 6: a lot of what happened until you sit back and
Speaker 6: go over everything again.
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys have time.
Speaker 6: You're at home. You know you're looking at all this.
Speaker 6: The faculty of the staff, they.
Speaker 2: Don't have that much time. Yeah, I mean real time.
Speaker 2: It is real time. And you know you have to
Speaker 2: move on to the next play.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, you can't sit there and you can't do that.
Speaker 5: And there was one play they asked him about why
Speaker 5: didn't he challenge and he goes, well, by time we
Speaker 5: got the word in, right, it's too late and he's
Speaker 5: got to come up with the next play. He doesn't
Speaker 5: have the ability to the right he got coach, within
Speaker 5: the moment, you would have to call time out, right, Okay.
Speaker 2: Let's wait right while.
Speaker 3: And then you got thirty seconds and if you use
Speaker 3: your timeouts, then you don't have you're able to get
Speaker 3: all the way down to the field of the six
Speaker 3: yard line with twenty seven seconds left and in position
Speaker 3: to position, in position to lose twenty one yards.
Speaker 6: And that's why the referees have to be on it.
Speaker 6: You have to hold them accountable, whether it's doing the
Speaker 6: game or after the game. They have to be held
Speaker 6: accountable for this stuff. Yeah, I don't care if we
Speaker 6: win and lose, Right, you got to do your job,
Speaker 6: win and lose. I want the referees to do their job.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 5: Gain Wells touchdown their first one. It's one of those
Speaker 5: things that you're at the twelve yard line but you're
Speaker 5: in your nickel defense, and not only your nickel defense,
Speaker 5: your second linebacker is a glorified safety. And what happens
Speaker 5: is they pitch it out and Kelsey pulls and how
Speaker 5: Kelsey's big, right, he's about six ' five maybe three something.
Speaker 5: The only guy that could get in the hole to
Speaker 5: stop it was Marquise Bell.
Speaker 4: It was a mismatch and there was and they had.
Speaker 5: Stefan Gilmour on the cowboy on the Philadelphia right side
Speaker 5: in man coverage on the wide receiver. So now he's
Speaker 5: in the end zone in man coverage and here comes
Speaker 5: the running back and he's the last guy to turn
Speaker 5: around and see it and it ends up being a touchdown.
Speaker 4: Didn't even get touched.
Speaker 2: No, you don't expect the corner beck.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not get right.
Speaker 5: But again, it's sometimes that how they play that defense
Speaker 5: is a good thing, but sometimes you get overmatched, of
Speaker 5: course with having a guy that's what six two two
Speaker 5: fifteen in Maybe this also came up by the way,
Speaker 5: somebody said it sounded like Leyton vander Eris is out
Speaker 5: for the season. I go no, and they go, well,
Speaker 5: is he coming back this week? I said, no, he can't.
Speaker 5: So there was a misconception out there that you had
Speaker 5: to be out four weeks. You got to be out
Speaker 5: four games.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we talked about that, right we did.
Speaker 7: Coming back for Panthers or after Panthers.
Speaker 5: If he is ready to play, he's right, because you're
Speaker 5: out five weeks without practicing. I don't know that you
Speaker 5: go out there and practice once in pads and say, okay,
Speaker 5: good to go get out there. So it might be
Speaker 5: like you said, Savannah the game after Carolina, that he
Speaker 5: would be ready to be back out there. But sometimes
Speaker 5: you just have to play three linebackers.
Speaker 2: I think did we ever come out with three linebackers
Speaker 2: ruin the game?
Speaker 5: Not that I noticed, although they did use Micah at linebacker.
Speaker 5: I don't know a handful of times.
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know how.
Speaker 6: Well they've had opportunities for the three linebacker set. We
Speaker 6: just don't feel it obviously.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know that they have another. We'll see
Speaker 5: if Evans is ready.
Speaker 3: Well, Evans did not get any defensive snaps in this game.
Speaker 5: I thought he got I'm.
Speaker 3: Pretty sure he didn't.
Speaker 4: I thought he had one.
Speaker 3: I think he had like thirteen special teams was the.
Speaker 4: Last That was the last game. Yeah, I got it
Speaker 4: right here, Evans.
Speaker 5: He had fifteen special team snaps.
Speaker 4: You're exactly right, Yep.
Speaker 3: No defensive snaps. Marquis Bell had fifty eight snaps on
Speaker 3: defense and DeMont Clark had fifty seven.
Speaker 5: So that was the majority, about eighty percent of the snaps.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have the percentage. But how about this.
Speaker 3: Think back when training camp started, if I was to
Speaker 3: tell you, Mickey that Marquise Bell against Philadelphia at mid
Speaker 3: season is going to get fifty eight defensive snaps at linebacker,
Speaker 3: what would you have said? It's crazy?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it was ninety four and two percent of
Speaker 5: the snaps there, you go, both had, so they came
Speaker 5: up one linebacker short.
Speaker 6: Well, obviously this is something that we need. I mean,
Speaker 6: they don't they don't, you know, they don't want to
Speaker 6: play in these many plays. It's something that we're forced
Speaker 6: to do, right, You know so by what the LV
Speaker 6: going down, you know that that really put us in
Speaker 6: the bond.
Speaker 3: So and that's that's why they signed with Shawn Evans
Speaker 3: and he's only been here a couple of weeks. The
Speaker 3: on the right prior to that Kenneth Gainwell touchdown run
Speaker 3: was the fourth and three. It was a fourth and
Speaker 3: three conversion the past to Dallas Goddard and I haven't
Speaker 3: gone back and looked at it, but what memory serves
Speaker 3: me if they go ahead. They went no huddle after that,
Speaker 3: and they did not give Dallas time to change personnel.
Speaker 3: It was almost like that Gamewell play was married to
Speaker 3: the fourth and north. Yeah, and they I believe they
Speaker 3: put the tight end in motion to the left and
Speaker 3: uh so linebackers for the Cowboys were shaded.
Speaker 5: You know what happened that way? It ended up with
Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis in single coverage. There you go, and it's
Speaker 5: a mismatch. Small Dbs. I don't know if he's small,
Speaker 5: but he's small enough.
Speaker 4: He's short.
Speaker 2: Compared to the guys coming out there blocking them. He's small.
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Speaker 7: Dallas Cowboys. You guys, As of today, we are halfway
Speaker 7: through the regular season officially, Wow, fifty percent of the way.
Speaker 5: There for eight and a half weeks through correct.
Speaker 3: Hmmm, interesting, but.
Speaker 2: We can't keep saying it's a long season.
Speaker 4: Game nine went up.
Speaker 3: Yep, and at halftime of this game will be the
Speaker 3: halfway point of the Cowboys season right right? In terms
Speaker 3: of games, yeah, not in terms of calendar watch any
Speaker 3: Monday night football last night.
Speaker 4: I did not.
Speaker 5: I watched Dallas Stars Boston.
Speaker 7: Bruins, as as did I were.
Speaker 3: You were there, both of you were this.
Speaker 7: Oh, I mean unfortunately they couldn't pull out the wind, for.
Speaker 5: They played like it was Monday night.
Speaker 4: They hadn't woken up yet until the third period.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a long season.
Speaker 5: Boston's pretty good though, they're very good. They kind of
Speaker 5: reminded you that they had the best record last year
Speaker 5: and got beat in the first round of the playoffs.
Speaker 5: They are, they are, they can skate.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 5: It was a mismatch, although with five seconds left they
Speaker 5: had a face off with two man advantage. They didn't
Speaker 5: quite get a shot off because the Stars had pulled
Speaker 5: the goaltender and then they got a penalty too, so
Speaker 5: they had a two man advantage.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: They pulled.
Speaker 5: Well, they were behind three to one, thought and then
Speaker 5: they scored, thought okay, and then they said, okay, well
Speaker 5: let's steal and then they got a penalty. So with
Speaker 5: the last part of the game there was two man advantage.
Speaker 4: But there's your hockey update.
Speaker 5: Okay, So, by the way, what happened? What happened Monday
Speaker 5: night football?
Speaker 3: I did not watch it, but I understand it was
Speaker 3: like watching paint dry.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I heard. Both quarterbacks just didn't have
Speaker 7: a great game. It was the Chargers held the Jets
Speaker 7: to six and I just I don't think they even
Speaker 7: scored any touchdowns. It was just field goals for the Jets.
Speaker 2: Wilson is Wilson. It is what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah again, And I asked us to watch the Sunday
Speaker 4: night game. Either Buffalo got beat right, let me lak.
Speaker 2: Yeah they did, they did.
Speaker 3: Cincinnati beat him, Yeah, Cincinnati, Cincinnati's Cincinnati came out of there.
Speaker 3: But Cincinnati came out of their bye week, which and
Speaker 3: they were starting to get on a roll before their
Speaker 3: bye week. And now Joe Burrow is healthy, and so twenty.
Speaker 7: Four to eighteen over the Bills.
Speaker 2: As Joe goes, so that the team goes according to
Speaker 2: the media.
Speaker 5: So in the next after Philadelphia Spy, they got to
Speaker 5: play Kansas City on Monday night at Kansas.
Speaker 3: City and both those teams on a bye this week.
Speaker 5: Right then Buffalo, San Francisco at the Cowboys, and at Seattle.
Speaker 4: So for the next one, two, three.
Speaker 5: Five games, their opponent's combined record is twenty seven and fifteen.
Speaker 3: So they were including Seattle as one of those dominant
Speaker 3: teams after getting beat by Baltimore thirty seven to three.
Speaker 4: But they're five and three.
Speaker 3: Yes, they are five and three.
Speaker 5: So everybody's five and three. Buffalo's five and four and
Speaker 5: Kansas City's seven and two, so it'll be interesting. And
Speaker 5: I guarantee you Jalen Hurts knee is not one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: They were very careful with him running the football and
Speaker 5: it looked like he almost got knocked out of the game.
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott almost got knocked out of the game with
Speaker 5: a hit to the head that they didn't call on
Speaker 5: that one sack on the last possession. Guy almost wiped
Speaker 5: him out.
Speaker 6: So how do you missed something like that? That's what
Speaker 6: I'm saying about the referees. They have to be.
Speaker 5: Held accountable that crew was not very good.
Speaker 6: And I mean you're looking at games where, let's just
Speaker 6: be real, this is one of the this is the best.
Speaker 2: Game of the of the week.
Speaker 6: Yeah you knew, you knew it was going to be
Speaker 6: one of the best games of the week, and so
Speaker 6: you would think that you try to find your best
Speaker 6: crew that's available. You know, I mean, it's a good game,
Speaker 6: good crew, let's put on a good face. This is
Speaker 6: this is the afternoon game. You know, you would think
Speaker 6: that they would go all out and you know, give
Speaker 6: this all the professionalism that it deserves.
Speaker 5: So Trey Blake was the referee. Somebody told me he's
Speaker 5: like a he's a new guy, maybe first years. Somebody
Speaker 5: can google Trey Blake and see how many years he's
Speaker 5: been Bill.
Speaker 6: Bill's busy doing research.
Speaker 3: But I can, I can adjust Trey Blake, So I
Speaker 3: continue your thought.
Speaker 5: Then, I was just saying the communication in that game
Speaker 5: was not very good, like.
Speaker 3: It was an American football official in the National Football
Speaker 3: League since the twenty twenty NFL season, wearing uniform number
Speaker 3: thirty three until twenty twenty one. He now wears uniform
Speaker 3: number three.
Speaker 5: And what was he at twenty twenty When did he
Speaker 5: become a head referee.
Speaker 3: We're looking at.
Speaker 7: Up twenty twenty two, I believe, all right.
Speaker 4: So he's got a year under his belt.
Speaker 2: And it's not always a head referee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that is interesting. He was hired by the
Speaker 3: NFL in twenty twenty as a field judge, reassigned to
Speaker 3: the umpire position in twenty one, promoted a referee for
Speaker 3: the start of the twenty two NFL season. So he
Speaker 3: was just two years as an official and got prom
Speaker 3: moded the referee.
Speaker 6: That was the third Is that that easy to be officiated?
Speaker 3: Prior to that, he officiated in Conference USA and the
Speaker 3: Atlantic Coast Conference, worked at deep wing and referee positions.
Speaker 3: He was also a referee for the Alliance of American
Speaker 3: Football in twenty nineteen and the XFL in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: He fast tracked, he did.
Speaker 3: That's right. But the committee, we may.
Speaker 2: Just started investigating.
Speaker 6: We just started investigating these referees, find out how.
Speaker 2: They got all this favorite.
Speaker 4: Where's he from?
Speaker 2: Who does he know?
Speaker 3: And he is a quality assurance director for an Orlando
Speaker 3: based pharmaceutical software.
Speaker 2: Didn't sound right? He got two jobs? How do they
Speaker 2: get two jobs?
Speaker 5: It's like he picked up the flag on that one
Speaker 5: penalty and didn't explain it, just picked up the flag
Speaker 5: and said no penalty.
Speaker 4: Gall yeah, yeah, yeah, no penalty.
Speaker 5: So and he didn't explain the bad alignment what happened.
Speaker 5: They just act like the cowboys didn't line up right and.
Speaker 2: See that kind of stuff. Man, it's got to be explained,
Speaker 2: say it. Hey, gotta be explained.
Speaker 5: The guy refused, didn't check in, and you.
Speaker 2: Gotta check with your other guys to see if he
Speaker 2: didn't check.
Speaker 4: With them supposedly. I guess you gotta do it to
Speaker 4: the head guy. I guess because he didn't make the announcement.
Speaker 13: You gotta recognize you got to go to the white
Speaker 13: hat McCarthy. Mcgarthy said, yeah, he doesn't say much. He's
Speaker 13: kind of quiet, so who knows.
Speaker 4: Who knows how that.
Speaker 6: But see, when you have a we have a game
Speaker 6: like this, these little nuances, they make a difference in
Speaker 6: the ball game. And that's what I don't like about it.
Speaker 6: I don't like all those nuances coming in to play.
Speaker 6: This is a football game. I don't need to worry
Speaker 6: about it. If I told the right referee, you know,
Speaker 6: I mean, you're picking up a flag. Why you pick
Speaker 6: up a flag. Hey man, it's too late. We gotta
Speaker 6: go next play. Well wait a minute, you know, hold on.
Speaker 6: So all of these things they make a big difference
Speaker 6: in a ball game.
Speaker 3: So what you need is have Tuba go in to
Speaker 3: play left guard, and the most talkative offensive lineman, which
Speaker 3: would be Tyler Smith, then tells you have him line
Speaker 3: up moving Eligi too much like Nate Newton, would have
Speaker 3: been a great tackle eligible. And now Kevin Gogan, I'm sure, yes,
Speaker 3: Kevin Gogan, he would let the official know that he's
Speaker 3: in the game.
Speaker 2: In no, no, he would grab him by the collar.
Speaker 2: Hey I'm in that's.
Speaker 3: What especially if he got called for its right.
Speaker 2: That's right? You wont would you hear me this time? Dude?
Speaker 3: All right? The run game? What are you thinking about
Speaker 3: the Cowboys run game?
Speaker 2: Not much?
Speaker 4: Very right now, excuse me right now.
Speaker 5: In the NFL rankings, their run game is ranked fifteenth,
Speaker 5: which is middle of the pack.
Speaker 4: And that's with your ten million dollars running back.
Speaker 6: Not only that, guys, not just the running game. The
Speaker 6: protection we're having the problem with the protection, thank god.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: Dak is like, you know what, I'm not gonna stay
Speaker 6: back here like San Francisco and get my ass kicked.
Speaker 6: I'm moving around and like you said, becoming a football player, right,
Speaker 6: you don't really want your quarterback doing that all the time.
Speaker 5: You don't like for him to be able to maybe
Speaker 5: get to the second or third read man.
Speaker 6: And so when you put that together, old line is
Speaker 6: just not doing well. And it's not just one person.
Speaker 6: He's getting pressure from everywhere and.
Speaker 5: They basically, I mean, there's no depth there.
Speaker 2: Number one.
Speaker 5: Somebody said, why didn't they take Terrence Steele out?
Speaker 3: But who are you gonna move there? And if you
Speaker 3: want to get the run game going, Terry Steele is
Speaker 3: your best run has been in the past. Now, well,
Speaker 3: I don't know post knee surgery.
Speaker 5: No one's factoring that in either. Oh what a bad deal.
Speaker 5: They gave him that big contract and you know now
Speaker 5: he can't play well. He's not a year removed from
Speaker 5: the Triple Crown of knee injuries ACL, MCL, PCL, you
Speaker 5: got them all. And yeah he's back, but again, he
Speaker 5: missed the whole offseason.
Speaker 4: He missed.
Speaker 5: Majority of the contact stuff in training camp if they
Speaker 5: have contact and yeah, you know you've got to got
Speaker 5: to write it. And you know, hopefully it gets confidence
Speaker 5: in that knee.
Speaker 6: Well, that that's where injuries can scare you, not just
Speaker 6: as a team, but as a player. You know, you
Speaker 6: know that you're not the same anymore. And so okay,
Speaker 6: we get the year the ramp up. Let's speak of
Speaker 6: Michael Gallup. You need the year the ramp up, you know.
Speaker 6: I mean, you come back and it's still not that
Speaker 6: same knee. So now you have to adjust your body
Speaker 6: certain way, you know, to still be effective.
Speaker 2: Yo, thank you.
Speaker 6: Yeah up here as well, So now your confidence may
Speaker 6: not be there here it is second year. We're still
Speaker 6: kind of looking sideways at Michael Gallup. You don't want
Speaker 6: to be that guy, you know. And as a player
Speaker 6: you can feel that you know, you're not being targeted
Speaker 6: as much and things of that nature.
Speaker 2: So still is going to have to go through the
Speaker 2: same thing. And we take those injuries for granted. Oh
Speaker 2: they'll come back, right, you know.
Speaker 6: But they don't always come back. Your needs right, right,
Speaker 6: So then you should be good. It ain't It ain't
Speaker 6: that easy.
Speaker 2: And I bless you for an example, because I never
Speaker 2: got heard.
Speaker 6: I wasn't gonna stick my head and that shoulder if
Speaker 6: I could help. It is a business decision. Arren Steel
Speaker 6: doesn't have that luxury to have a business decision.
Speaker 3: That is his business.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is his business.
Speaker 5: I don't know what this says about him or me,
Speaker 5: but I've had more surgery.
Speaker 3: All right, Let's dive deeper into the run issueses when
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Speaker 7: here for the third segment, and we have a question
Speaker 7: in from a fan, so they want to know to
Speaker 7: get the run game established, because there wasn't much of
Speaker 7: a run game for us against Philly. Do we use Pollard?
Speaker 7: Do we run him off the tackles, use sweeps and
Speaker 7: screens to give him more room to make a move.
Speaker 3: Let's uh look at the last four games. I just
Speaker 3: talied it up the last four games for Pollard and rico'dowell.
Speaker 3: Pollard starts with the San Francisco game. Pollard in that
Speaker 3: game had eight carries for twenty nine yards against the
Speaker 3: Chargers fifteen carries thirty yards, against the Rams twelve carries
Speaker 3: fifty three yards and the Eagles twelve carries fifty one yards.
Speaker 3: That totals his last four games, he has forty seven
Speaker 3: carries for one hundred and sixty three yards. That's three
Speaker 3: point five yards of carry. Rico Daddle meantime, in the
Speaker 3: last four games has fifteen carries fifty three yards. That's
Speaker 3: three point five yards of carry. So both of them
Speaker 3: getting three and a half yards of carry the last four.
Speaker 5: Games and they only ended up with seventy three in
Speaker 5: this last game on twenty one carries three point five.
Speaker 3: Un there you go, and what is all in all?
Speaker 3: What did Zeke average last year that everyone was so
Speaker 3: down on Zeke? He averaged three point eight yards of carry.
Speaker 5: But he had four point some until and.
Speaker 3: Tony Pollard is deal got hurt. Tony Pollard averaging five
Speaker 3: point five yards, you care?
Speaker 6: And they were worried about how much money he was making.
Speaker 6: That was the main thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not point on it is okay, three point five is.
Speaker 5: Not good, right, yeah, well even worse so powar DeLong
Speaker 5: was fifteen. So if you take fifteen away from seventy three,
Speaker 5: you got twenty carries for fifty eight.
Speaker 3: Yards, but just less than three yards.
Speaker 5: Again, and you know it's not all the running backs.
Speaker 4: I mean, you don't look at what the offensive.
Speaker 6: That's right, there's no doubt it's the offensive line. So
Speaker 6: my thing is, I'm thinking bringing in your boy. The
Speaker 6: North took the state the full back Hunter Lipke.
Speaker 3: To play a guard, nothing else.
Speaker 6: You know, as long as they could just create a
Speaker 6: stalemate on the offensive line, then he could move it.
Speaker 2: But that's the way it's happened. When he comes in
Speaker 2: the game, they.
Speaker 6: Have been overrun up front, and he's just in the
Speaker 6: way because he has no where the block because everyone
Speaker 6: has already cross over into outside onto outside of the ball.
Speaker 5: Now, granted, the middle of that Philadelphia defense is good, right,
Speaker 5: and no one points out you know, everybody once pointed
Speaker 5: out bad day by steel Reddick's pretty good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, damn bags. We could say that about every
Speaker 6: team that you all got one.
Speaker 5: But they're not always on the on the right side.
Speaker 5: A lot of times they're on the left side, right.
Speaker 2: So you know, you're gonna have your challenges.
Speaker 6: But we still have to play, We still have to run,
Speaker 6: and we still have to be effective.
Speaker 2: That's not happening.
Speaker 7: What I think I'm tired of is the the toss
Speaker 7: to Tony Poller and then he tries to just get
Speaker 7: a couple of yards off of that. I think it's repetitive,
Speaker 7: and I think you have to do something different to
Speaker 7: establish the run more. I don't think you can just
Speaker 7: keep tossing the ball to him and expecting him to
Speaker 7: gain yards every single time. I think you're just to
Speaker 7: actually establish the run.
Speaker 6: Well, that's where you know, that's where the offensive lineman fail. Well,
Speaker 6: they just failed. They just said, let's go wide, let's
Speaker 6: change it up. Well, that's what happens when we go wide.
Speaker 5: I used to think, I used to think, and I
Speaker 5: could be wrong.
Speaker 4: I'm never wrong, though.
Speaker 5: Is that the key to Pollard success was the change
Speaker 5: of speed between z thank you and Pollard?
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: If you need a slower running back, no, it's the style.
Speaker 5: It's the style run and defensive had to adjust and
Speaker 5: you get used to the.
Speaker 4: Guy hitting, hitting, hitting, and.
Speaker 5: Then all of a sudden, here comes this guy and
Speaker 5: he's so fast, and now they get used to his tempo.
Speaker 6: Let's be real, guys, When Zeke ran the ball a lot,
Speaker 6: there were no holes, just like what Polo's coming against now.
Speaker 6: When pol would come in the game for the change
Speaker 6: of pace, the holes were there. He never got hit
Speaker 6: in the backfield first. He always had room to set
Speaker 6: it up and hit the weak spot. He looked like
Speaker 6: dors Set used to do all the time. You can't
Speaker 6: do that. It doesn't seem to be that way when
Speaker 6: you don't have the change of pace. Maybe an offensive
Speaker 6: lineman can tell me how that makes a difference. But
Speaker 6: it did make a difference when Zeke was here. Not
Speaker 6: saying that Zeke was the was the reason, but the
Speaker 6: change of pace definitely was. It was something that was
Speaker 6: noticeable and some.
Speaker 5: And sometimes when a guy like Pollard, and it's not
Speaker 5: his fault, when you're getting bottled up, you started looking
Speaker 5: for stuff that ain't there. Ain't there right, and you're
Speaker 5: trying right instead of before he was like, oh look
Speaker 5: at this hole is boom he sets it up through.
Speaker 3: Now. The other thing that's interesting around the league is
Speaker 3: the run game, and it is not being ut situated
Speaker 3: throughout the league. Apparently. I just looked up how many
Speaker 3: one hundred yard rushing games where they're in the league.
Speaker 3: This individual one hundred yard rushing games where they're in
Speaker 3: the league. This this week there was one. Keaton Mitchell
Speaker 3: of Baltimore had nine carries for one hundred and thirty
Speaker 3: eight yards all the all the other try he's back
Speaker 3: up and at fifteen yards.
Speaker 2: Here we go, Okayer.
Speaker 3: Last week there were only three. The week before that,
Speaker 3: there was one in the week before that two. So
Speaker 3: seven one hundred yard rushing games the last four weeks
Speaker 3: in the league. And now here's someone who knows something
Speaker 3: about the running change.
Speaker 14: This is this is the big difference, and y'all guys
Speaker 14: have spoke on it at length.
Speaker 3: The big difference is Nate.
Speaker 14: The big difference is you're running back. Uh not not
Speaker 14: so much your running backs. Your offensive line is not
Speaker 14: playing very well. The guy that y'all talked about, Steal,
Speaker 14: he is nowhere near the player that he was the
Speaker 14: right side last year.
Speaker 2: If you go back and check the stats.
Speaker 14: We were very dominant with him and Zach Martin. We
Speaker 14: were very, very dominant before this kid.
Speaker 3: Got hurt the last five games.
Speaker 14: Five games and our center was playing at his best
Speaker 14: Pro Bowl. Yes, so this is not the same offensive line.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 14: The change of pace was you had Zeke that had
Speaker 14: an explosion. He didn't have the quickness that this guy
Speaker 14: Tony has, but he had the explosion and he had
Speaker 14: the patience to fill holes. That is something that's God given.
Speaker 14: That ain't something that you're gonna just figure out. He
Speaker 14: had a god gift of seeing a hole and had
Speaker 14: enough explosion to get to that hole. Leaning forward, you know,
Speaker 14: saw big Zeke head wasn't gat of jail, and it
Speaker 14: was much hard to deal with. Now we refuse to,
Speaker 14: for some reason, to give Donald those carries. Tony is
Speaker 14: still that explosive back, unless they know that. We don't
Speaker 14: know he's still that explosive back. But I saw a
Speaker 14: couple of times, but they tried to give it to
Speaker 14: Tony to get outside. But our tight ends and our
Speaker 14: tackles didn't do good enough jobs, so we had to
Speaker 14: go back up in there. So the biggest missing key
Speaker 14: besides Zeke is the fact that offensive.
Speaker 2: Line is not playing very well.
Speaker 14: End they're okay, they're okay, But if your offensive line
Speaker 14: was as solidity as it was before still got hurt,
Speaker 14: our tight ends were guys getting in the way. They
Speaker 14: could still get in the way. But now when you
Speaker 14: have a team that we played last week, they sought
Speaker 14: the guys that are nine, the one to normal seven.
Speaker 14: They sought them out. So our guys, instead of reaching
Speaker 14: out and pushing them out and running with them, they
Speaker 14: got to turn out, and that gives them a leverage
Speaker 14: on us, that forces our running back back inside.
Speaker 3: So when he.
Speaker 14: Looked and you see all that green, his nature is
Speaker 14: to turn back inside. Jordan Davis, Fletcher Cox, Jaylen Carter,
Speaker 14: those guys were dominating us inside. So that that is
Speaker 14: the reason, that is the reason why he looked bad
Speaker 14: this week. Office line is not as good.
Speaker 2: You can say that for the last three or four weeks.
Speaker 5: Friend of mix shots right there, Frisco, there you go.
Speaker 5: You don't get that just anywhere, that's right, you do
Speaker 5: on his show?
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well that doesn't for this action of.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: All right, We're turning our attention to Tommy DeVito and
Speaker 3: the New York Giants like some kind of Attalian movie
Speaker 3: that's a playoff brought ever since you've been a member
Speaker 3: of the Giants. What's going on in their lockers? Starting quarterbacks?
Speaker 3: And Tommy DeVito is your starter?
Speaker 6: Well, we had Belichick and Posls and we we won
Speaker 6: a super Bowl with a backup running and the backup
Speaker 6: quarterback O. J. Anderson that was not in our plans,
Speaker 6: but yet the defense was strong enough to where we
Speaker 6: carried that team all the way to the Super Bowl
Speaker 6: and through it.
Speaker 3: Okay, well we're talking giants when Giants Week starts tomorrow
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