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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, happy Happy

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Speaker 2: super Bowl edition of Project Nil. You heard the man.

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Speaker 2: Daniel de Bernadine is the ad for Penn Charter High School,

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Speaker 2: one of the oldest schools in the country. I'm Anthony Gargano.

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Speaker 2: The fellas is we convene every week getting into our

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Speaker 2: youth sports all the way up to college as the goal.

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Speaker 2: Project Nil. That's what it's all about. Everything in that world,

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Speaker 2: and today's show is interesting. I'd like to think all

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Speaker 2: of them are, but today's, especially as today show, is

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Speaker 2: about imbalance, not just money but power, behavior, responsibility. On

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Speaker 2: one end, we're gonna be talking about potential nine figure

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Speaker 2: nil deal. On the other, we're talking about refs quitting

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Speaker 2: youth games because adults just can't control themselves. Somewhere in

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Speaker 2: the middle, or role players walk holls and kids trying

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Speaker 2: to figure out if this system still has a place

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Speaker 2: for them. This is Project that I don't Today we're

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Speaker 2: asking a real question, are we building the future of

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Speaker 2: sports or slowly breaking the foundation that made it work

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Speaker 2: in the first place.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Danny, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Cause how we doing?

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Speaker 2: Baby?

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl weekend I know how you holding up.

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Speaker 3: Man. Now, thank you, my brother.

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Speaker 2: I so appreciate you looking out for me, you know,

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Speaker 2: because it's a tough time as we say goodbye to football.

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Speaker 2: It's such a difficult time. I know, I want to cry,

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Speaker 2: I do. I have to be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: Life for that.

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Speaker 2: Football sucks.

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Speaker 4: It's a tough year for you, and I know I

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Speaker 4: know what. I got to keep giving you checkings. You know,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, that's on top of you. That makes sure

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Speaker 4: giving you some lovedoring a few days, you know, for

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Speaker 4: a few weeks.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I know.

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Speaker 2: I watched a little college hoop last night, Johnny's last

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Speaker 2: night on.

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Speaker 4: The Big win for the Johnny's Yeah Garden at the Garden,

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Speaker 4: you know, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it Listen.

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Speaker 2: I love college basketball, but and I'm a baseball man

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Speaker 2: as you know, and NBA and hockey. I love it all.

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Speaker 2: But there's nothing like it, man. It is the perfect sport.

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Speaker 2: And Sunday it's not. It's it's my least favorite of

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Speaker 2: the championship rounds.

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Speaker 3: Now. Obviously, if you're teams in it's different.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna sound stupid because the super Bowl is just

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Speaker 2: this you know, American holiday. But what they've done to

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Speaker 2: the game, like that game itself. Is it about football?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I agree, of all the championships, I think that's very

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Speaker 4: fair to say. If your team's in it, obviously you're

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Speaker 4: you know, a lady, you're over the moon. I get that.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's a it's a it's a big show.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's a huge production. You know, the

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Speaker 4: time show, TV show, the commercials. You know, it's it's

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Speaker 4: a lot, but uh yeah show.

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Speaker 2: You know it's funny because the game lacks a little

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Speaker 2: bit of luster, right, I mean, you know, New England

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Speaker 2: it's a good, real good story. Drake made a great

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Speaker 2: story in Frable, was a hell of a coach, so

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Speaker 2: you go, okay, but they don't have the sex appeal.

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about the a f C with the Chiefs, right,

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Speaker 2: Thinking the Bills turn but you have a you have

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Speaker 2: and Drake has been terrific. But let's face it, he's

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Speaker 2: not my homes He's not Allan, doesn't have the flare

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Speaker 4: It's lacking the star power, right cool a Burrow, Yes,

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Speaker 4: and Seattle has this great defense, but they don't have

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Speaker 4: like known guys, right, there's not any big personalities. There's

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Speaker 4: not the star power that we're used to. Well said,

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Speaker 4: well big headlines, right and and they're both really good

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Speaker 4: football teams. I don't want to you know, talk down

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Speaker 4: on their you know, the seasons they've had. But that

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Speaker 4: it is it's not it's not bringing it. It's not

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Speaker 4: bringing it for me, like obviously I watch it, but no.

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Speaker 2: Like if the Bills were in it, they would provide

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Speaker 2: the team of day, like you'd be interested, right like,

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Speaker 2: because if you have one of the teams being one

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Speaker 2: polarizing of the team, you at least split it up,

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Speaker 2: right hey man, See because Seattle, in fairness, Seattle is

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Speaker 4: Yes, overall, top of the out him they played great.

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Speaker 4: You know, the defense is elite. You know, the offense

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Speaker 4: gets it done, you know, but they don't have to. Again,

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Speaker 4: it's the star power we're lacking.

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Speaker 2: The big name yeah, j San, I mean Donald, you know,

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Speaker 2: Donald's been terrific. Think about the think about the vikings,

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Speaker 2: how stupid man o man? And I know people go

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Speaker 2: they melted it down the whole line. But you you

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Speaker 2: got rid of Donald for McCarthy, it's almost unforgivable.

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Speaker 4: I mean that that has to be the reason their

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Speaker 3: He has to be Yeah, herew that up.

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Speaker 4: He had to push JJ. There had to be some

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Speaker 4: dissension within the camp because when it happened, I think

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Speaker 4: they just kept seeing Donald go further and further because

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Speaker 4: it was a late fire.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I think they.

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Speaker 2: Were just like more irritated.

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Speaker 3: Irritated.

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Speaker 2: And here's the other thing too, And if you look

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Speaker 2: he must and he wanted to go to Minnesota and

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Speaker 2: imagine he was throwing to nobody in Pittsburgh. Imagine with

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I mean he's still with those type

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Speaker 4: creative mind. You don't need to be a superstar quarterback.

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Speaker 4: You don't even have the biggest arm. You just gotta

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Speaker 4: you know, you gotta make the read and get the

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I think he would have went. I think they

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Speaker 2: You know, they have a completely different season if Rogers

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Uh, lots to get into this week. My brother

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Speaker 2: as we wind down basketball, what's the schedule? So we

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Speaker 2: got we got about what the uh about three weeks

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Speaker 2: most high school the high school championship for what first week?

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Speaker 2: Could the early March, right March, you know, March first

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of championships are probably in the coming

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Speaker 4: three weeks. And then the state associations have their postseason tournaments.

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Speaker 4: So the one I'm most familiar with is in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 4: the districts have to be wrapped up. They're champions who's

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Speaker 4: advanced their you know, their ranking systems, and then the

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Speaker 4: for high school season. I can't believe it. We're about

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Speaker 4: to beat the spring. It's I'm excited, but it's also

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Speaker 4: mind blowing how fast it's gone. But yeah, great, Winter

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Speaker 4: sports is awesome. I love it. Everything's kind of close by,

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Speaker 4: at least for me as an athletic director, I'm able

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Speaker 4: to bounce around to three different games walking thirty feet.

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Speaker 4: You know, we've wrestled on going on, we have you know,

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Speaker 4: swimming and basketball, and you can just kind of they're

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Speaker 4: all indoors and where I'm at very located centrally, so

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Speaker 4: like you're traveling, You're you're making big steps to get

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Speaker 4: to multiple sports in one day.

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Speaker 3: So what time are you What time are your games?

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Speaker 4: It varies sometimes right after school in the spring, the

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Speaker 4: spring and fall, mostly after school, unless it's football, it's

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Speaker 4: a night game or an afternoon on the weekend in

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Speaker 4: the winter. It could be anytime. We could be we

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Speaker 4: could play four, we could play seven thirty, five thirty.

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Speaker 4: Our league is uh, they let they allow you to

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Speaker 4: have night games on Friday, so a lot more flexibility.

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Speaker 4: But depending on the sport and depending on you know,

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Speaker 4: the location of the school, it can vary from anywhere

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Speaker 4: from four to seven thirty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yeah, it's it's uh, it's interesting because

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Speaker 2: how the schools now are you know, dipping into more

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Speaker 4: Yeah for sure, Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of night games. But also like there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: like travel ball, which you should not be as prominent

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Speaker 4: in high school, but that's at night too, So school

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Speaker 4: sometimes trut a rab up brow so people can have

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Speaker 4: the option to, you know, go and play for that club.

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Speaker 2: Like, dude, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Schedules, nuts, it's nuts.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. It's funny you brought this up. But schedules

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Speaker 2: both play football, one is also rows crew and my

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Speaker 2: my wife and I divvy it up. And because I

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Speaker 2: helped coach and in the in baseball and and football

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Speaker 2: so like crazy, the schedules, and like when you're looking

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Speaker 2: to decide, like hits the time we got like baseball

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Speaker 2: workouts and basketball practice or basketball game and then then

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: How do we do it? Like, how do you navigate

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Speaker 3: this stuff?

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Speaker 2: Danny?

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Speaker 4: It's very difficult, man, And it always hasn't been like this, right,

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Speaker 4: it's kind of like did your school and then like

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Speaker 4: in the off season there's potentially more you know, youth

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Speaker 4: and neighborhood leagues. But now it's again we talk about

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Speaker 4: every week. It's this billion dollar industry that's driven and

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Speaker 4: they're just trying to get you around as much as possible.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I don't know how parents are doing it.

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Speaker 4: I really don't.

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Speaker 3: You have to. It's sane, man.

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Speaker 2: And then they could like, you know, we work like

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Speaker 2: you want to go to Pebo. We we can't go

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Speaker 2: and make games at you know, before thirty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 4: It's wild an it takes a village these day. They

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Speaker 4: always say it. I think it's more true than ever. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: multiple people that being to help out and drive.

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Speaker 3: Oh you're right, Oh you're so right.

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Speaker 2: I will sell. I will say this every day. I'm

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Speaker 2: in it. I I I love it. And part of

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Speaker 2: me is jealous because I think back to when I

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Speaker 2: was like I wish I had sports like this, like

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Speaker 2: like opitas, Like you know, we didn't like we didn't

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Speaker 2: practice like these kids practice. No, we didn't have you know,

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Speaker 2: gym time, we didn't have off season workouts.

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Speaker 3: Oh my God, it would a dream.

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Speaker 2: Like if I was a kid today, you would every

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Speaker 2: day I would be, I would be you know, multiple

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Speaker 2: sports and yeah, I just be engulfed in it.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: White he's your free agent.

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Speaker 4: That's a great a great question. And again we're in

440
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Speaker 4: the unknown, we're in uncharted territory. I don't think he

441
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Speaker 4: gets eligibility. I think there's no way they can go

442
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 4: against it. But the fact that people were entertaining this

443
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 4: is pretty wild. Now, he is twenty one, he's not

444
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 4: very old. He did the one year in college, but

445
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 4: he was drafted and he played ten games, so it's crazy.

446
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 4: But the fact is he's in the G League and

447
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 4: he'll make probably four x if you were going to

448
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 4: go back to college playing in the G League. So

449
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 4: there's a lot of buzz going around about it right now.

450
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 4: And again, schools are entertaining them. It's not just Grand

451
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 4: Canyon has made the tournament. They win their conference a lot,

452
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 4: but bigger schools are also in the mix and entertaining this.

453
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Speaker 4: And I'd be very interested to see how this plays out,

454
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Speaker 4: because if you're gonna take them, and you're gonna invest money,

455
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Speaker 4: and you better know he's eligible. So like, when does

456
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Speaker 4: that legal process start for his eligibility and what will

457
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Speaker 4: what will be the legal precedent that happens if given

458
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Speaker 4: this eligibility, it would be crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I.

460
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Speaker 2: Part of me wants to say it because the anarchy

461
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Speaker 2: of it all. And here's the you'll thing if you're

462
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Speaker 2: if if you're a kid, who's that good? Who's playing overseas?

463
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Speaker 2: Like we've already started to see some of that where

464
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Speaker 2: you go, well, why am I going to go play

465
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 2: overseas and error and you know, in Europe or in

466
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Speaker 2: China when I can now get paid at home at university.

467
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so if.

468
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Speaker 2: They have any kind of eligibility left, is it like

469
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Speaker 2: a race to come back? Yeah?

470
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Speaker 4: I think their argument is going to be, is he's

471
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Speaker 4: in the age, right, and we allow people to do

472
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 4: this across seas. They play in their professional leagues for

473
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Speaker 4: a long time, and now they're coming to our colleges.

474
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Speaker 4: So I think they're going to push the homegrown thing

475
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Speaker 4: and like, hey, like this is happening a ton in

476
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Speaker 4: you know, all over Europe and all over you know,

477
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 4: these other countries, but you're not going to allow me

478
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Speaker 4: to do it as a twenty one year old, you know.

479
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 4: I think that's going to be his argument. I could

480
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 4: be wrong, if I just had to guess, that's the

481
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Speaker 4: only avenue I see them trying to, you know, push

482
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Speaker 4: the limits to say there's professional leagues all over the

483
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Speaker 4: world people playing them, and then they're allowed to come

484
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Speaker 4: and play. But because it's our league that's professional, we're

485
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Speaker 4: not allowed to go back. Like, why is that the case? Yeah,

486
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 4: ain't right, So I think that's good. I mean, I'm

487
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 4: speculating here, but I think that will be his lane,

488
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 4: which he tries to, you know, push through in this

489
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 4: legal document that they'll they'll bring I guess in the

490
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 4: coming weeks in front of the n C Double A.

491
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Speaker 4: So it should be interesting. But I would say they're

492
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Speaker 4: not going to grant his eligibility. I just think it

493
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 4: opens up such a huge Pandora's box.

494
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I yes, I don't know how you. I

495
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 3: don't know how you do it. I guess you know.

496
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: You're right. It's good, it does.

497
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Speaker 2: It opens up that, But it feels like that's all

498
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: we do now is open up Pandora's box. True, And

499
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: a lot of times you open it up, you don't

500
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: want to see what's inside.

501
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Speaker 3: Uh.

502
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: That's why I want to stick to sports, all right,

503
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: So let's look at this thing now because I want

504
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 2: to get to the ref piece of it before before.

505
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: You know, usually we do mail box mail bag in

506
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: the in the last hour. This is too good, This

507
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: is too interesting to hold on to because it deserves

508
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Speaker 2: a conversation. Last week I got a DM from one

509
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Speaker 2: of our listeners, and I really appreciate it because it

510
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: was just spot on. Mike Boff. Mike said, listen, if possible,

511
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Speaker 2: can you guys address high school officials and parents or

512
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: lack of officials in high school because parents, especially to

513
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: the point of view of the official, are so out

514
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: of control. And this comes from Mike is a fifteen

515
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: year high school umpire. So first we appreciate you. There's

516
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: not enough umps. There's not enough football refs, there's not

517
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: enough basketball refs. It's a real problem.

518
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Speaker 3: I see it on the youth level, and.

519
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: It's because these parents act like idiots. Too many parents

520
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: act the full during these games. It's absurd.

521
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so here's some stats. I mean, I see it

522
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 4: every day, but I did some research on this after

523
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: Mike reached out to us, and roughly fifty thousand high

524
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 4: school officials have quit since twenty nineteen. Fifty thousand. Over

525
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 4: half of the new refts have quit within the first

526
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Speaker 4: two years, and nearly seventy percent of them cite that

527
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: parent and fan behavior is the main reason. So just

528
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 4: put that perspective now. As an ad I see this

529
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Speaker 4: firsthand weekly. It's an issue. We don't have enough refs.

530
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 4: So when there's cancelations, bad weather, or we're trying to

531
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Speaker 4: get quality officials on games, it's not available. There's not

532
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Speaker 4: the flexibility that we once had. And I've been in

533
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Speaker 4: the athletic director now since twenty fourteen, so I've been

534
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 4: around for twelve years now, and it is I've seen

535
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Speaker 4: the drastic change and the drastic dip of the quality

536
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 4: and referees and you know, just the sustainability of them.

537
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 4: And Mike's right, there's a problem with you know, we're

538
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 4: injecting more money in the sports than ever, so people

539
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: are on edge and they all think their kid's going

540
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 4: to become this next, you know, multimillion dollar athlete, and

541
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 4: they're going about it the wrong way, opposed to thinking

542
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: about it as something in activity to get them out

543
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 4: of the house and grow them socially and mentally. It's

544
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: messing up the system. So the money is great, and

545
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: then also like we're not paying these officials enough to

546
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 4: make it worth their while to get rated for two hours.

547
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 4: You know they're going to leave with one hundred dollars

548
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 4: seventy five dollars and they're getting screamed at and being threatened.

549
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 4: It's like, why would I do this, It's not worth it.

550
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Speaker 3: Right.

551
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 4: So you know, before every game as an athletic, right,

552
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 4: I tell the refs or the yump or whatever the

553
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 4: case may be, the official, I say, hey, you tell

554
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 4: me someone's bothering you. I'll hold the ball. I said,

555
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: we won't start until they get in line or leave, right, Like,

556
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 4: I try to back them the best way I possibly can.

557
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: That's great, I understand it.

558
00:30:59,640 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: Right.

559
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 4: There's been basketball games where fans have been out of

560
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 4: control and I'll say, don't tell me, and I will say,

561
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: all right, we're not starting a game until you go

562
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 4: or you behave yourself. We'll stop. You know that. That's

563
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 4: always kind of worked for me where I kind of

564
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: have to hold the game up because then everyone's looking

565
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 4: at them, it's turned on them, and be like, oh,

566
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: well you're acting out with we can't play now, right person.

567
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: So I try to bring it to light and you know,

568
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: back then. But it's it's a difficult it's a difficult

569
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 4: situation we're in and it's getting worse and worse, and

570
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 4: we allow these people to just scream and berate them

571
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 4: and no one's perfect. People are gonna miss calls. I

572
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 4: say it all, especially.

573
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Speaker 2: At that level. It's ridiculous.

574
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Speaker 4: Listen.

575
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Speaker 2: I have to remind myself as a coach to take

576
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Speaker 2: any like I don't I rarely, like I never berad

577
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: official brate. I mean, it's like argue a call.

578
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: Like I hear.

579
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: Coaches the little argue calls. Listen, it's not college, right,

580
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: it's not high school.

581
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: When you're in when you're doing you know, youth.

582
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Speaker 2: Stuff, and I'm doing seventh and eighth grade. I bring

583
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: over the ref. I go, hey, do me a favor.

584
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: Watch twenty three. The kid he's pushing off for the

585
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: kids in the lane or you know, camping out, you know,

586
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: watch what this kid does. Or this kid's always holding,

587
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: you know, like in football. Hey, you know, mister Fisher,

588
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: what watch you know, watch eighty four he's holding every

589
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: play you know or whatever, like just just and and

590
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: they're always good and they and they watch it and

591
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: you not like you're gonna get the call all the time,

592
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: but you bring it to their attention because they're not.

593
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 2: First of all, you know, you look at it at

594
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: an NFL game or a college game, and you look

595
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: at the amount of refs. We got three refs the

596
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: wing football all right cover the whole field, so they're

597
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: gonna miss stuff basketball. These guys are so a lot

598
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 2: of these guys are older and not younger, and you

599
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: know they're gonna get up and down the floor. They're

600
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: gonna miss stuff. In baseball spots, the strikes owed like,

601
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: come on, man, you have to give me a break.

602
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: You're arguing balls and strikes, and.

603
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 4: You got to treat them like human beings. I always like,

604
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 4: I'll disagree with ref but I'll have a conversation, try

605
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 4: to have conversation with them one to one and say

606
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: like like you said, and point things out, have conversations

607
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 4: and it will get heated from time to time. But

608
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, like we have to

609
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 4: understand that they're doing this. They're doing us a favor

610
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 4: by being here because there's the youth movement and officials

611
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 4: is dying, so we're getting much older officials and you

612
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: got to respect them because they're out there trying to work,

613
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 4: but they might not be able to get to this

614
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 4: spot to see it because they're not as nimble as

615
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 4: they once were right, So it's it's trickling down and

616
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 4: that causes you know, turmoil and some you know, you know,

617
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 4: some people getting upset and argument's happening.

618
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Speaker 2: Ah, who's waiting for them when you get out of

619
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: the gym. And these people are crazy. Absolutely, I've seen

620
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: it in youth games. Get stuff that stuff that said

621
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: to them, just the arguing. You know, I wanna you

622
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: know that, I'm gonna offer you out in a fight,

623
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: like come on, yeah, people.

624
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 4: It's crazy and like I look, I was a player,

625
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 4: I was heated, I get into a rest, but I

626
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 4: would always be respectful at the end of the day

627
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 4: and never you know, threaten number. You know, you can

628
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 4: disagree all the time.

629
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, listen, I get a kid, now, you know,

630
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: I make it a rule, like you don't argue with him.

631
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: Let me argue if it's bad, you know, Like you know,

632
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 2: there are times when I lose it and go, oh.

633
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Speaker 3: My god, dude, it was right for then you call that,

634
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 3: you know like that.

635
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 4: It's tough, but you sure, you.

636
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: Gotta you have to respect it. You got you need

637
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: it because you don't have a game without it. Let's

638
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: take a quick t o and then we'll put a

639
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: little bow on this thing.

640
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 3: And man, it's it's bad. I just see it. It's

641
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Speaker 3: a thankless, thankless job.

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00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: Project that I L Danny d and then me I'm

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644
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646
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648
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649
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650
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651
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652
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653
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Speaker 2: It's a huge, huge business. So we decided to tackle

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Speaker 2: it for an hour. Danny Dee's an expert in the field.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of parents that listen, you know, ranging

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Speaker 2: from anywhere from t ball through high school who are

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Speaker 2: looking for scholarships in the college. What it takes, the

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Speaker 2: whole thing. The show covers that vast world. So that's

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Speaker 2: when people go, well, it's Super Bowl weekend, you're talking

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Speaker 2: about youth refs and schedules. That's what the show's about.

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Speaker 2: Just an fyi And if you want to reach us, Danny,

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Speaker 2: what's the best wedding for questions for you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Daniel underscore D five to one five on.

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Speaker 2: Twitter at X and I'm at Anthony L. Gargano on

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Speaker 2: ex Anthony Lewis Gargano on on Instagram My Man Southside Chuck.

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Speaker 2: He said, it's hard to not imagine you going bananas

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Speaker 2: on the sidelines, and it's true. I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna sound like I don't you know, get agitating, go crazy,

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Speaker 2: but you know, I also don't want to be that dude.

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Speaker 4: No, and I'm and I'm an athletic director. I get

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Speaker 4: it in the moment, I get excited, but it's always

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Speaker 4: you know, respectful after the game, and it's never right.

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Speaker 4: The main point I'm trying to get across is the

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Speaker 4: parents and the sideline and the fans and these hand

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Speaker 4: ors and the family members. It's gotten a points where

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Speaker 4: people are getting you know, it's they feel unsafe and

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Speaker 4: it's becoming a trickle down effect. And you know, as

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Speaker 4: you know, people in athletics, we preach character, right, but

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Speaker 4: then instead we're letting you know, we're telling kids blame

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Speaker 4: the refs when things don't go your way, right, and

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Speaker 4: that's you know, pretty hypocritical. It's like, you know, you

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Speaker 4: got to look ourselves in the mirror and be accountable

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Speaker 4: when we mess up. And everyone messes up, refs mess up.

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Speaker 4: But we need them and we're losing them in these

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Speaker 4: different games and where there's not as much available, and

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Speaker 4: that means less games for our kids, right at every level.

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Speaker 4: It's not just at the high school level, it's at

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Speaker 4: the youth level as well. So we need to find

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Speaker 4: ways to cantinue to grow and develop referees and so

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Speaker 4: we can have continue to have these games or we're

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Speaker 4: not going to have them, right, So I'm always fighting

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Speaker 4: for them to try to be the highest paid league

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Speaker 4: wherever I'm at, I always try to push because then

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Speaker 4: that you know, attracts the best referees. And you know,

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Speaker 4: again having conversations with them and trying to support them

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Speaker 4: is also really important.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you need it.

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Speaker 2: And the parents also have to realize, like you know,

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Speaker 2: you're you're not getting perfect officiating like the balls and strikes.

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Speaker 2: Parents are crazy, like they go banadas every pitch it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, guys, he's going to miss them sometimes. You know,

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Speaker 2: I get upset, like if you know you have a

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Speaker 2: tight you're squeezing the pitcher because I'm like, yo, get

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Speaker 2: the game, let the let the ball get in play.

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Speaker 2: So you got to have you can't be squeezing kids,

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Speaker 2: right because you want the ball and play. But you

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Speaker 2: got to just remember that it's you're getting inexperienced.

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Speaker 3: Guys for the most part. Hey, real quick.

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Speaker 2: Uh, And this is something we got to discuss uh

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Speaker 2: next week as well. But the players lost in this

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Speaker 2: whole nil boom are role players in walk ons. So

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Speaker 2: like in the NIL money is so top heavy that

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Speaker 2: what about these role players?

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Speaker 3: Are they getting anything? What's the deal?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're getting lost in the shuffle. Recruiting wise,

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Speaker 4: there's been so many walk ons that have made impact

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Speaker 4: by the time they're done. And now these limits, these rosters,

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Speaker 4: they say, you know they used to you know, you

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Speaker 4: could have walk ons. They prefer walk on the way

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Speaker 4: they structure these rosters. Now it's harder for these kids

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Speaker 4: to push through, and it's it's becoming difficult and we're

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Speaker 4: losing them. Right, They're the role players in the walk

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Speaker 4: on the are getting lost in the shuffle, and next

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Speaker 4: week we'll really dive into that. Also, we'll dive in

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Speaker 4: next week. Dion Is being you know, kind of creative

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Speaker 4: where he's finding these players. He's saying, if you want

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Speaker 4: to get paid, we're gonna find you if you act

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Speaker 4: up or you miss meetings. So we'll dive into his

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Speaker 4: fine structure as well. I think it's pretty innovative and

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Speaker 4: I'm interested to see your thoughts on it.

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Speaker 2: An yeah, I mean real off the bat, I like

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Speaker 2: it because I think there needs to be responsibility for

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Speaker 2: earning your paycheck for sure, right like you know, I

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Speaker 2: mean you know now now of a sudden, you gotta

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Speaker 2: be as hard on them, and like NFL guys, like

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Speaker 2: you know, you're gonna be missing, you're late, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: get fined.

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Speaker 3: That's part of the landscape.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's a big deal because that's gonna happen

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Speaker 2: to the next level now that you're getting paid and compensated, Well,

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Speaker 2: there's a responsibility that comes with it. I think dion

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Speaker 2: Is is right on uh idea.

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Speaker 4: You're like the Super Bowl, Seattle, they're a better team.

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Speaker 3: I think they win.

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Speaker 4: I think they I think they get after May. I

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Speaker 4: think that they're gonna make it tough for them.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, that's got Jeff Schwartz and I

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Speaker 2: coming up next to talk all about it.

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Speaker 3: Fellas. I went up next on Fox