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Speaker 1: Tasker there, Welcome to the show. Three hours of entertainment

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Speaker 1: coming up for you, Bills entertainment and a busy show.

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Speaker 1: A lot going on today, Steve. One of those days

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Speaker 1: when when the clock hits three, you and I are

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Speaker 1: going to be like, WHOA, where did the time go?

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Speaker 1: It's a whirlwind. Just a lot going on with our

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Speaker 1: I know, you started working on the Broncos the last

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Speaker 1: gearing up for your play by play, which is critical. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it may I listen. So I went out and I

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Speaker 1: want to go back back in time. But in years

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Speaker 1: and the Broncos hit a couple of pass plays where

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Speaker 1: you know this, Courtland Sutton made an incredible grab on

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Speaker 1: And there's less than a minute to go, and they're

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Speaker 1: but they were up twenty three to seven. They're up

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Speaker 1: That for by and large, has been the Bills recipe

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Speaker 1: They're playing with a guy Brandon Allen, who is sixth

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Speaker 1: making a name for himself. Here's an interesting Josh Allen sat.

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Speaker 1: And I think most Bills fans appreciate this and know this,

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Speaker 1: but it bears repeating. I think Steve first five games

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen five touchdown passes, seven interceptions, first five games.

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Speaker 1: And does he maintain that rest of the way the

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Speaker 1: final six games, we'll see, But that is a big turnaround.

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Speaker 1: Last year he threw more interceptions and touchdowns. Right, wasn't

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Speaker 1: him to be three to one. But yeah, this last

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Speaker 1: couple of special teams touchdowns. They've given up floting one

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Speaker 1: They've had a they've had an outstanding career again, an

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Speaker 1: outstanding year again, and you gotta shrug your shoulders and nod,

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Speaker 1: nod your head out of man and they're playing really

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Speaker 1: well again, yep again. So what do you think what's

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Speaker 1: What do you like the most? Give us a call

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet. We'll read those on the air, But first

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Speaker 1: we want to get out to practice. We want to

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Speaker 1: take you out to practice. Chris Brown gonna stand by.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna join us right after the break with a

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Speaker 1: live view of the Bills practice today this Thursday, getting

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Speaker 1: Thursday practice and our man, Chris Brown, Bills inside or

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot Com. Standing by forty five degrees cloudy

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Speaker 1: s guys. I'm not going to ask you about whether, Chris,

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Speaker 1: but um, it's okay out there, right, That's all I'll

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Speaker 1: ask you. It's okay, no problem, Yeah, a little breeze,

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Speaker 1: but otherwise all right. Yeah, let me talk to you

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Speaker 1: about football for a second instead of weather. You wrote

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Speaker 1: a really interesting piece on Buffalo Bills dot Com. You

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Speaker 1: always do, but this week about the sacks. We know

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Speaker 1: now the Bills are top ten in the league in

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Speaker 1: sack percentage, seventh overall in the league, and as you

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Speaker 1: point out, they're sacks don't come from one or two

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Speaker 1: sacks this year. Right, Yeah, they've got a total of

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Speaker 1: fifteen players on the roster with at least one sack. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's due in part to the fact that they have

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Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer has won this season on a blitz play

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Speaker 1: as well, So yeah, they've They've gotten it from a

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Speaker 1: lot of different places. And with fifteen players with at

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Speaker 1: leading statistic. There's a couple other teams about twelve or

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Speaker 1: to our Twitter question of the day is what's the

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Speaker 1: no question. But it might be just the fact that

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Speaker 1: at the end of the game. You don't do anything spectacular.

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Speaker 1: They don't get like sixteen turnovers a game. At the

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Speaker 1: And they've kind of lived up to that. I mean

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Speaker 1: that was just because Micah Hyde was in a position

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Speaker 1: Fitz read that and threw it over him instead of

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Speaker 1: And if day Parker goes fifty yards, so you know,

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Speaker 1: the philosophy of this defense is to keep everything in

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Speaker 1: did and what they employed last week with Milano and

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Speaker 1: lot of different things that Leslie Frasier can turn to,

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Speaker 1: and you bring that up and look the fifteen different

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Speaker 1: the Leslie Frasier the coordinator obviously, and the head coach

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Speaker 1: They're very well coached and now in their third year,

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Speaker 1: that's what you want to see with a team like that, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: the best position to succeed in any given week. Well,

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Speaker 1: play elements in the offense, and quite frankly, guys, the

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, Sutton is the unquestioned number one target in

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Speaker 1: makes a play. I mean, that's the kind of play

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Speaker 1: Brandon Allen isn't shy about giving these guys chances to

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Speaker 1: the Bills. Chris pretty much a fifty fifty split at

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Speaker 1: the cornerback spot between Levi Wallace and Kevin Johnson last week.

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Speaker 1: Any indications from what you've seen at the brief period

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Speaker 1: They really haven't jumped in. Yeah, they really haven't jumped

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Speaker 1: into much team stuff. Although I know that Coach Fraser

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Speaker 1: he still believes in Levi Wallace. But I think it's

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Speaker 1: out there that he's getting targeted. Now. We do have

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Speaker 1: to wrap up here, murf based on our time, guys,

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Speaker 1: but I will tell you no Jerry Hughes again practicing today,

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Speaker 1: No Tie and Sechie out here on the field, and

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Speaker 1: no Sir Ran Neil stealing the concussion protocol. Okay, thanks Johnny.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown Bills Insider bub Bills dot Com. That was short. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming Chris, but I have a list of questions.

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Speaker 1: They got questions. I got things we gotta do. I know,

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Speaker 1: we gotta find that. I wonder. I wonder if they'd like,

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Speaker 1: you know, if Brownie, if they escort Brownie off, or

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Speaker 1: make sure he's wearing the orange jumpsuit and then take

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Speaker 1: him away. No, just kidding, but it is true though.

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Speaker 1: This is we're talking about the defense today. It is

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Speaker 1: fun to watch those guys. They and you get it's

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Speaker 1: kind of a good place for fans to be in.

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Speaker 1: And I think the organization too. Certainly they would miss

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Speaker 1: a couple of I think if if you took a

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Speaker 1: really feel it. Most notably, of course, Tardavious White and

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Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds is the quarterback, gets everybody lined up and

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Speaker 1: And Tavius White is just a lockdown guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: injury problem, it might be a thing. Even that Jerry

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Speaker 1: Hughes groin issue. Um, you've got Shack Lawson, You've got

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Speaker 1: Trent Murphy. You've got enough defensive guys to rotate through.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's getting a ton like the Lion's share. Certainly they

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Speaker 1: have any reason to think they couldn't just adjust their

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Speaker 1: sixteen guys or fifteen guys that have gotten sacks, they

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Speaker 1: rotate them through. They've got a good production of all

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Speaker 1: those guys, you know. I just think it's it's a

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Speaker 1: And I think they're sitting in a nice place here

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Speaker 1: a week ten, game ten, What do you think about

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Speaker 1: that Buffalo defense? That's our Twitter question of the day,

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Speaker 1: Week eleven, third best defense in the NFL in terms

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Speaker 1: of yards allowed per game? What's been the best part

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Speaker 1: of the Bills defense so far this year? Fullline is

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Speaker 1: defense so far this season? Stepping the kool aid sends.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, it has been the linebacker corps. The

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Speaker 1: growth as a player and as a leader by Tremaine

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Speaker 1: year and is the most underrated linebacker in the game.

638
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: Then there is the timeless Zoe. He just looks and

639
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: plays younger every game. All right, good points, the train

640
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: Edmunds point is good and as much you know, we

641
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: talked about how the Ringer and our guests Robert Mays

642
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: did an in depth feature on Josh Allen this week. Eventually,

643
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: as the Bills keep winning, people are going to get

644
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: around to Tremaine Edmonds, another first round pick same year

645
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds as an integral part of what they do

646
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: defensively and a guy who has as him been always

647
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: a smooth path upward. But he certainly has improved his

648
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: game from last year to this, there's no question. Yeah,

649
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: And I think you're right he's this last game, I

650
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: thought he stood out mostly because they sent him on

651
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: blitz Is once a lot. And then as you see

652
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: in some of the highlights, the guy's way back down field,

653
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: knocking passes down. I mean he can, he can play

654
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: up around the line of scrimmage, and he gets deep

655
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: into the secondary as well. And of course, as you know,

656
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's a physical beasts. I mean, the

657
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: guy's enormous, and he covers a lot of ground and

658
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: he's just impossible to throw around when he's standing in

659
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: the pocket with the quarterback. And so he brings a

660
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: lot to the table. And the thing from day one

661
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: when they plugged him in at middle inside linebacker, the

662
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: players have noticed, man, the guy works really hard at it.

663
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: I think that, along with what Josh Allen's done, puts

664
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: those guys in this you know, two peas in a pod.

665
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: They were drafted together, and I think you know, We're

666
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: going to see those guys together for a decade. It

667
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: looks like, right, what a great Yeah, it really does,

668
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: it really does. We got another one from the tweet sheet.

669
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: What's the best part of this year's bill's defense? And

670
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: this is dying a kind of echoes what we've been

671
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: talking about. To me, the best part is the way

672
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 1: they all work together. It's truly a team defense. No

673
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: one is the star. They put their aside, their egos

674
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: and work together for the good of all. And that's

675
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: that's kind of where they're at. Certainly they're playing at

676
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: a high level all the way across the board. But

677
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: with the exception of you know us talking about Tredevious White,

678
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: nobody else I think does that too much. I mean,

679
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: I think other offenses do, certainly. But this is a

680
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: defense that they're sitting there behind the Patriots and the

681
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: forty nine ers on the statistical rankings. Yeah, and it's

682
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: just far enough under the radar that they're kind of

683
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: unappreciated by the media at large. I think that's I

684
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: think that's probably where they like to be. You know,

685
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: who else is unappreciated I think by the national media

686
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: at large is Tredevious White, and you know it just

687
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: struck me. Um. Look, losing to Cleveland was bad, and

688
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: it's a bad loss and an AFC loss. But had

689
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: the Bills hung on and won that game, and we

690
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: talked about it earlier, you're right there. We were up

691
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: sixteen to twelve in the fourth quarter. Had they won,

692
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: you know what a national story would have been. Tardevious

693
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: White shut down OBJ and it didn't get the legs

694
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: and he did shut them down, but it didn't get

695
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: the legs it would have got had the Bills hung

696
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: out and won that game, you know what I mean,

697
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: would have been a national prominent cornerback figures. He's probably

698
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: one of the top four or five corners in the

699
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: league right now, and he would have been on the

700
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: front of everybody's mind had the Bills hung on and

701
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: won that game, because that would have been one of

702
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: the main stories. The Bills beat the Browns and Turdevious

703
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: White shut down OBJ didn't happen, neither one of them.

704
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: App I mean, the wind didn't happen. So Turdevius doesn't

705
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: get credit. Right, That's exactly right, And I think that's

706
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of that's unfortunate for him, Yeah, unfortunate

707
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: for the team. They couldn't put that game away. But

708
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,239
Speaker 1: I think also, you know, if they hold him one

709
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: off the scoreboard and that last drive, that the that

710
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: the Browns had, you know, they only score twelve points

711
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: in the game, and then it looks like a stifling

712
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: defense and they do rock it up. But you're right,

713
00:33:55,240 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: it's bad timing. And I don't think the Bill's defense,

714
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, they're not belly aching about it. They don't

715
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: really care about that stuff. Mirror Stuffy exactly. And I

716
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: think that's also speaks to the character and the culture

717
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: the guys they got playing on that side of the ball.

718
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: Another from the tweet sheet, we asked the question, what's

719
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: the best part of this year's Bill's defense? Jack tweets this,

720
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: and clearly it's the secondary. Trey White is an elite

721
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: cover man. Micah Hyde is a great safety in all schemes.

722
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer is vastly underrated. Karen Johnson is a gritty,

723
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: nickel guy not afraid to get dirty. Levin Wallace has

724
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: hid a rough patch, but I believe he will improve.

725
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: And Kevin Johnson holds his own right down the line.

726
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: There I think he's right on all of those counts.

727
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: I believe it. Yeah, and I think they're like Brownie said,

728
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: and when our live hit just a minute ago, this

729
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: defense is better than what they look like when they're

730
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: just standing around. You know, when they get out there together,

731
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: they're really tough. But you know when he's when you

732
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: break them all down, it's like, well, where's your elite

733
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: pass rusher. Well, Jerry Hughes is good, he's pretty good.

734
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: And yeah, these guys are at star. Lutula is pretty good,

735
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: and you know, Trem Edmonds is a great physical speciman.

736
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: He's pretty you know. But when they get them all together,

737
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: it's one of the top defenses in the league. And

738
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: they played better as a group than they individually look

739
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: on paper. I'll take a few phone calls and answer

740
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: to this question. What's the best part of this year's

741
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: Bill's defense. Jerome on the line in Buffalo, hid Jerome,

742
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air, hey man, Steve took

743
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: my statement. They're better than when they're standing around doing nothing.

744
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: They better than that. Yeah, don't touch him, Just let

745
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: them go date man, They are hiding on all selling.

746
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: They're better than a way to car Yeah, that's my statement. Yeah, yeah,

747
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Jerome. They're playing really well. I

748
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: think the the mindset that Leslie Frazier and Sean McDermott

749
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: put poor on these guys keeps them that that thing

750
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: that now we all say it's humble and hungry. Um,

751
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: I think may maybe and you talk about it, I

752
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: only maybe digging deep here, but you know, a game

753
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: like Cleveland where they would have kind of exploded onto

754
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: the national scene, I think they aren't going to get

755
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: some benefit over being able to stay out of that

756
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: spotlight and still thriving, you know, thirsting for it, keeping

757
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: them humble and keeping them hungry to get some recognition

758
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: that they're not getting because there are some defenses out there.

759
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: The Niners and Patriots are getting a lot of attention

760
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: and they deserve it. And I think that's probably serving

761
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: the Bills well enough if you think it would be

762
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: a problem just to say, listen, you're gonna have to

763
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: work harder to get to that level. And I think

764
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: they use that as motivation, and I think it's good

765
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: that they, you know, are finding ways to keep their

766
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: players motivated in that. In that respect, I think the

767
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: attitude that this coaching staff wants their club to have

768
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: and strives to give them is one of you know,

769
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: we gotta earn it. Yeah, and I think they don't

770
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: feel like they have yet. Here's here's a call from

771
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: Tim and Webster in New York. Hello time go ahead? Well, hi,

772
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: Steve and Murph. I called yesterday, first time caller, and

773
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: it was such a pleasure to talk to both of you, gentlemen.

774
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: And I appreciate the time you let people talk. What

775
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: I want to say something about the defense and Josh

776
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: I could Jared go ahead, Tom okay, Um, I'm beginning

777
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: to think our defense played New England better than the

778
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles defense. We held them to sixteen points and

779
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: we could have won the game back then. Yeah, yeah,

780
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: that's probably I agree. They did block punt cutdown that

781
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: killed the Bills, that killed the Bills that day. Yeah. Well,

782
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: maybe maybe there's a chance we can nip nip New

783
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: England this year. Yeah. Um. The other thing I wanted

784
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: to say, um about Josh and I was so pleased

785
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: to see him have his best game for a while there.

786
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: He was over throwing deep deep ball and underthrowing and

787
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: I wonder if he maybe had the clamps on him.

788
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: He was so worried about throwing interceptions, and now they've

789
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: been taking the clamps off and to just play fearlessly.

790
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: How you well. I still would like to see him

791
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: connect on a on a deep pass here at the

792
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: forty yard or to John Brown the other day, but

793
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: that's not like a classic deep ball home run ball,

794
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: and I think there's that's still something that I want

795
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: to see him do. I don't think it's killing him

796
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: that they haven't done it yet, but i'd like to

797
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: see I'd like to see that happen. But when we

798
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: have our guests on in the two o'clock hour, Robert May's,

799
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: we'll talk about this issue because he talked with Josh

800
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: about it. And I don't know if putting the clamps

801
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: on him was the right is the right way to

802
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: phrase it, But clearly after those numbers I cited, you know,

803
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: first five games, eight interceptions or seven interceptions, five touchdowns,

804
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: they wanted him to be smarter with the football, and

805
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: he has been the last five games, yeah, eight touchdowns,

806
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: no interceptions, and I think there's probably cause an effect

807
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: a little bit where he is. And he's admitted he said,

808
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw an interception, and I'm gonna

809
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: make sure I don't, and that means the receiver's not

810
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: gonna catch it either, So and there is you know,

811
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: you can make the argument that just trying those things

812
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: does affect the defense that they're planning against, because, believe me,

813
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: the defense, the defense you know, that scares him when

814
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: you're willing to throw it over their head and you

815
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: got a guy open, whether you hit him or not,

816
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna think you're gonna hit the next one. So

817
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: you do get some benefit out of trying it a

818
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: deep pass even though you don't hit it. But I

819
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: think when when he comes down to it, you know,

820
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 1: there was some carry over when Josh decided to stop

821
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: throwing interceptions, and they he saw the results in some

822
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: of the games, particularly probably the New England game where

823
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: they you know, might have could have, would have should

824
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: have won that game if he didn't throw three interceptions.

825
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: And I think that stuck with him for a while,

826
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: and I think it did affect the deep ball. I

827
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: don't know if it'll continue, and I don't know if

828
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: it'll he'll take a step back in the interception thing

829
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: if he does start hitting a couple, but we know this,

830
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: he hasn't thrown his last interception and and I don't

831
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: have a problem if he throws an interception on a

832
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: sixty five yard air ball, you know, going over there,

833
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: because it's just like a punt on a third down.

834
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: So but I would like to see him hit on

835
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: it as well. I don't know, I do. I agree

836
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: with the caller, Tom. I think there was some some

837
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: residue from not wanting to make the big mistake that

838
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 1: carried over into their ability to hit the deep ball

839
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: as the season is worn on. Thank for your call.

840
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna come back and dalk more about this, and

841
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: what about the fact did the Bills have all those

842
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: different players fifteen different players with a sack? Lorenzo Alexander

843
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: has some thoughts on that we'll hear from him when

844
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Speaker 1: we return. One Bill Slide presented by Kalida Health Lide

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Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio, And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: this Thursday afternoon show. Today, we've been talking about the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo defense today and we talked with Chris Brown about

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Speaker 1: the fact that the Bills have fifteen different players that

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Speaker 1: have saxes here most in the NFL. Lorenzo Alexander talked

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Speaker 1: about that yesterday in the locker room. But we rotate

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Speaker 1: a lot on the front end. We have a lot

853
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Speaker 1: of variety as far as linebackers getting some sacks as well,

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Speaker 1: And so I think that's more so than anything just

855
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Speaker 1: the death that we play with. We have a lot

856
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Speaker 1: of guys that blitz on the back end from Jordan

857
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Speaker 1: and from Tearing, and so when you have guys that

858
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Speaker 1: are very aggressive like that in a play car, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna call some blitzes, You're gonna have a variety of

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Speaker 1: guys get sacks. And then on top of that, seems

861
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Speaker 1: like a lot of them come from just guys being

862
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Speaker 1: in the right spot with somebody else creating something, you

863
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, and just kind of doing your

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Speaker 1: job and knowing where you're supposed to be. It might

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Speaker 1: not be designed for you, but you could be there.

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Speaker 1: And that's and that's when you try to you just

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Speaker 1: try to create some type of chaos, and we call that,

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Speaker 1: you know, guys being a factor for another guy getting

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Speaker 1: the sack. And you kind of saw that thing show

870
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Speaker 1: up last week, especially with Tremaine and Matt Milano blitzing

871
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Speaker 1: a lot sometimes offensive line either miscommunicator or just through

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Speaker 1: their scheme gat down and it cuts three a D linement.

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Speaker 1: I think Starr was a benefactor of that as well

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Speaker 1: as m. D Oliver as well. So it can always

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Speaker 1: open up things, even though the blizz may not be

876
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Speaker 1: designed for you. You're always supposed to rush with the

877
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Speaker 1: expectation as you're the guy that's going to come open.

878
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Speaker 1: Sounds like team defense to me. I think that's what

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Speaker 1: Zoe's talking about, right, Oh yeah, we used to have

880
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: the same philosophy. When you're rushing punts trying to do it.

881
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Speaker 1: You never know who's gonna make a mistake up there,

882
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Speaker 1: so you gotta go with you with the idea that

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Speaker 1: you're the guy that they're gonna make a stake on.

884
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Speaker 1: You're gonna come free and or you know, got your

885
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Speaker 1: guy's gonna give you a half an effort because he's

886
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Speaker 1: not exactly sure or whatever. And so it's a it's

887
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Speaker 1: an attitude that's hard to keep throughout the four quarters

888
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Speaker 1: of a game because you get blocked so many times,

889
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Speaker 1: so many times, so many times. The one time you

890
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Speaker 1: know you're gonna get blocked, he kind of come, expect

891
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: the guy to be there. You go and he steps

892
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: away from you and nobody's there and you you know,

893
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Speaker 1: and you're not ready for it, and you miss an opportunity.

894
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Speaker 1: So it's it's a diligent mindset that obviously these guys

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Speaker 1: have mastered. And I think when you start having six

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Speaker 1: like that, particularly in a game like Miami, and you

897
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Speaker 1: start getting to the guy where you have a guy

898
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Speaker 1: that you know he's not gonna run too far is

899
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Speaker 1: another example. It's easier to stay in there and you think, wow, okay,

900
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Speaker 1: here we go, and then the lid comes off and

901
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Speaker 1: you keep going and all of a sudden, it's you know,

902
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Speaker 1: turns into a seven sack afternoon. Yeah, and that's you know,

903
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Speaker 1: that was a huge factor in last week's win. Big

904
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Speaker 1: big win last week. Great day for the Buffalo defense.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot more to talk about. In the

906
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Speaker 1: next hour. We're gonna be busy. Tyler Palumbus will join us.

907
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Speaker 1: He's a former NFL offensive lineman who played for the

908
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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. Now he does sports talk radio in Denver.

909
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Speaker 1: We'll get his take on the three and seven Broncos

910
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: coming to town. We'll talk with Broncos defensive end Shelby Harris.

911
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: He had three sacks last week in Minnesota. He's scheduled

912
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Speaker 1: to join us next hour and after the Bills wrap

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Speaker 1: up practice. Corey Legit gonna join us here in studio.

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Speaker 1: Stick with US's gonna be busy. One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalida Hell from the Seneca Studio in Archer Park.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio Bills Radio Network Sports Update

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Speaker 1: from One Bills Drive. The Bills on the practice field

918
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Speaker 1: as we speak outside the ad Pro Sports Training Center.

919
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Speaker 1: Looks like another day off for Jerry Hughes did not

920
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Speaker 1: practice yesterday either, with a growing issue. The Bills on

921
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Speaker 1: the Broncos Sunday. Buffalo's won three of its last four

922
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Speaker 1: matchups against Denver. You know, the Broncos have led in

923
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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter in seven of their ten games this year,

924
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Speaker 1: but they've held on to win just three of those games.

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Speaker 1: Bills also out tie in Secy Ankle week to week,

926
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Speaker 1: Sir and Neil with a concussion remains in concussion protocol.

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Speaker 1: Bills Broncos Sunday, one o'clock here at New Air of Field,

928
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Speaker 1: a broadcast on our flagship radio station, WGR Sports Radio

929
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Speaker 1: five fifty. I'll be in the booth with Eric Wood.

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00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: Sal Capacho will be on the sidelines. Thursday Night football

931
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Speaker 1: against the NFL. Weekend started tonight eight twenty pm the

932
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Speaker 1: Colts and the Texans in Houston at NRG Stadium. The

933
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Speaker 1: Colts have won the last two times these teams have played.

934
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Speaker 1: The Colts defeated the Texans in weeks seven by a

935
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Speaker 1: score of thirty to twenty three. The Colts gonna play

936
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Speaker 1: without their leading rusher Marlon mack tonight is eight hundred

937
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Speaker 1: and sixty two yards this season. Eight twenty kickoff in

938
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Speaker 1: Houston the Colts and the Houston Texans. The NFL is upheld.

939
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Speaker 1: The one game suspension for Brown's defensive tackle Larry Ogan

940
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Speaker 1: Joby upheld late yesterday. His fine was rescinded. However, Ogan

941
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Speaker 1: joeby disciplined for shoving quarterback Mason Rudolph from behind. Lions

942
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Speaker 1: quarterback Matthew Stafford said he is not discussed at all

943
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Speaker 1: going on injured reserve. Said he has not had any

944
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: discussions about taking off the rest of the season with

945
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: the fractured bones in his back. He was asked about

946
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Speaker 1: the possibility of ir after missing his second straight game

947
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Speaker 1: last Sunday Sabers in Boston tonight where they take on

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Speaker 1: the Boston Bruins seven o'clock face off. Sam Reinhart going

949
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Speaker 1: pretty well for a Sabers team that are struggling. Nine

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Speaker 1: points in his last ten games. The road trip continues

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Speaker 1: Sunday night when the Sabers face Florida Buffalo. It's the

952
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Speaker 1: first of four meetings between the Sabers and Bruins this season,

953
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Speaker 1: and it comes tonight seven o'clock in Boston and Toronto.

954
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Speaker 1: April Leaves struggling. Fired their coach Mike Babcock yesterday for

955
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Speaker 1: league of his duties. Marley's coach Sheldon Keif replace him.

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Speaker 1: And that's the update. The sports update from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back One Bill's Live, John Murphy, Steve Tasker, the

958
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: Bills getting set to play the Denver Broncos the Sunday

959
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: and joining us on the line, a guy who covers

960
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Speaker 1: that team. He spent eight years in the NFL playing

961
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Speaker 1: offensive line, part of that time with the Denver Broncos.

962
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Speaker 1: Now a radio host on one oh four point seven

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Speaker 1: the Fan in Denver, Colorado. Happy to have Tyler Palumbas

964
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Speaker 1: on the line. Hello, Tyler, John Murphy, and Steve Tasker

965
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Speaker 1: up here in Buffalo. Thanks coming on guys. Always great

966
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Speaker 1: to be with you. It feels like we've been doing

967
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: this last couple of years and always look forward to it. Yeah,

968
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Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna go in depth here, but

969
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: I want to just run something by it. I said

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Speaker 1: this to Steve after watching a couple of Broncos games yesterday. Look,

971
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: they're not the most talented team in the league, but

972
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Speaker 1: they're kind of scrappy, I said to Steve. If I

973
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Speaker 1: were a Denver resident, I would kind of like that

974
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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos team even at three and seven. What do

975
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Speaker 1: you think, Well, I wouldn't say that they're getting a

976
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Speaker 1: lot of move around here right now. But we are feisty,

977
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: they are competitive football team, and we've got a great defense.

978
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Speaker 1: So anytime you've got a great defense, you've got an

979
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Speaker 1: opportunity to win some games. You know. On the offensive

980
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: side of the ball, it's just been such a disappointment.

981
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: We've been averaging anywhere between fifteen to sixteen points per game,

982
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: give or take the week. Last week we put up

983
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Speaker 1: a few more points, which was great. Brandon Brandon Allen

984
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Speaker 1: stepping in as a sixth rounder. He's filling in rather nicely,

985
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: but overall it's been a major disappointment. And you know

986
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Speaker 1: how it goes on the talk shows. Man, that's been

987
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: a lot of negativity. Well, what's the level of frustration

988
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: with people? I mean, John, I've given John Elway a

989
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: lot of credit because a lot of and they're not

990
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: in a position to keep running through quarterback after quarterback

991
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: after quarterback. John Elway. He's not married to any of

992
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: these guys that they've run through here over the past

993
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: handful of years. And if the guy doesn't seem to

994
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: be the guy, he has no problem pulling the plug.

995
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: Is that the case with Joe Flacco? Even though he

996
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: was out because of injury? Are they going to completely

997
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: just move on from him and go ahead and try

998
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: the next guy? You know? The interesting part about Joe

999
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: Flacco is that logic would tell you, yes, it's time

1000
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 1: to move on. Logic would tell you he has played

1001
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: his last snap as Denver Bronco. But they restructured his

1002
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: contract last year a little bit unnecessarily, and now they've

1003
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Speaker 1: got thirteen million and dead money tied into Joe Flacco.

1004
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: It's nothing that you cannot move on from but it

1005
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: is something that you have to consider. The real interesting

1006
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: part is what's going on with Drew Locke right now.

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Speaker 1: Drew is our second round draft pick and he's been

1008
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Speaker 1: on the ir all season long. You know, healthwise, he

1009
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Speaker 1: was capable of coming back to play football after Week eight,

1010
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: but they've been delaying that twenty one day grace period

1011
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: that they've had with Drew Locke as long as they

1012
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Speaker 1: possibly can. We're now in week two of it. But

1013
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Speaker 1: if you listen to Big Fangio, even as recent as

1014
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Speaker 1: this morning, I Fanjio's vote to the press and he said, look,

1015
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: there's no rush to get this guy on the field.

1016
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Speaker 1: Matter of fact, there's no guarantee that we're even going

1017
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Speaker 1: to see from him this year. So that's really been

1018
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: the surprising part of it, and that's been the storyline

1019
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: as far as it goes on my show and all

1020
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Speaker 1: the other shows around town, is what is going on

1021
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Speaker 1: with Drew Locke. We've got to seize which is all

1022
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Speaker 1: but over, and why are we not getting this guy

1023
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Speaker 1: on the field. We got to figure out if we

1024
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: need to draft a first round quarterback next year. Again, Tyler,

1025
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Speaker 1: did you or maybe more significantly, the Broncos. He enough

1026
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Speaker 1: from Drew lock in preseason to lead you all to

1027
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Speaker 1: believe that he could be the guy. He could be

1028
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Speaker 1: the answer. No, I wouldn't say that, but I certainly

1029
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: did not see anything that was so discouraging that would

1030
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Speaker 1: say we got to hide this guy all season long.

1031
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 1: I saw a guy that improved from week to week.

1032
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: He certainly did not look like he was ready to

1033
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: lead a franchise, but I saw the potential right What's

1034
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: interesting is there has to be something going on behind

1035
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: closed doors right now, because they have been they've been

1036
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: very vocal about the fact that they've not been happy

1037
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Speaker 1: with this progress. And so whether that's in the meeting

1038
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: room VR, virtual reality, that's the new thing. Rich Gangarello,

1039
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Speaker 1: our offensive coordinator, he's brought into town and he's huge

1040
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: on it. They're evaluating these quarterbacks based off their performances

1041
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: on virtual reality, which I think is a little bit

1042
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: silly personally, but yeah, that's what's going on, and there's

1043
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Speaker 1: something going on behind closed doors that is making these

1044
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Speaker 1: guys question whether they should put him on the field. Well,

1045
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Speaker 1: the virtual reality, that's pretty interesting. You're telling me that,

1046
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Speaker 1: and maybe all teams do it, but are we at

1047
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Speaker 1: the point where teams will now make decisions on players

1048
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Speaker 1: based on how they do in a video game. Is

1049
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: about this, It's hard to believe it, honestly, as John,

1050
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Speaker 1: you know, they're using this technology from Striver, and what

1051
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Speaker 1: it really is is it takes Joe Flacco's reps or

1052
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Speaker 1: whoever your starter is, from practice, and it takes his

1053
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Speaker 1: bandage point. You put the goggles on, and really it's

1054
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Speaker 1: just a first person viewpoint of what Joe Flacco was

1055
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Speaker 1: doing in practice. However, they're able to pause the play

1056
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Speaker 1: and they're able to view as as Drew Locke has

1057
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: those goggles on. They're able to say, Okay, well did

1058
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: he look to the left? Did he look to the right?

1059
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: Is he going through the progressions in the appropriate manner?

1060
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: I've been having some battles with my partners on my

1061
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: show because I think it's outright ridiculous if that's what

1062
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: we're judging this guy on. But apparently the Broncos are

1063
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: taking it very seriously. Well, how much of a voice

1064
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: does Vic Fangio have in all of this? And how's

1065
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: this first year head coach navigating all these waters? It's

1066
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: a good question who's really calling the shots? On the quarterbacks.

1067
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: They all say that they're on the same page. If

1068
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: you were to ask me, I get the feeling that

1069
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: Big Fangio is the one that he's got something that's

1070
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: making him nervous about Drew Locke. Every time he speaks,

1071
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 1: he speaks glowingly about Brandon Allen. He spoke glowingly about

1072
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, But when he speaks about Drew Locke, he says,

1073
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: this guy needed the time off during the ir during

1074
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: that break, it's been good for him. He's been mentally

1075
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: been able to recover. It's just been kind of weird

1076
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: coach speak that you don't expect out of a second rounder.

1077
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 1: And Tyler the guy who will play against the Bills

1078
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: this week, I would think Brandon Allen. Look, nobody's confusing

1079
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: him with a potential future franchise quarterback. Right. He's kind

1080
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: of undersized, not a great arm. He's kind of a

1081
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: placeholder a team for now, for them, right, he has

1082
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 1: been a placeholder, but he's brought a lot of excitement

1083
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: the same time. You know, Joe Flacco, he looked like

1084
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: a statue this season. He was so immobile he could

1085
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: barely run the bootlegs that this West Coast offense features

1086
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: and he was having terrible pocket presents, just getting destroyed

1087
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: back there. Then all sudden, Brandon Allen comes in the game.

1088
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: He's picking up first downs with his feet. He picked

1089
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: up two fourth down conversions late in the game last

1090
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: week against Minnesota that were really clutch pickups. All that

1091
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: being said, you know, if you take the excitement away,

1092
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: he threw for like forty three percent completion percentage something.

1093
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: I know that your guy out there is struggled with

1094
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: a little bit, but he's brought excitement with his feet

1095
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: and it's mostly just been the surprise factor. If holy cow,

1096
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: we are actually competing better with this guy that nobody

1097
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: even knew what his name was as sixth rounder than

1098
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: we were with Joe Flacco. Well, and it comes down

1099
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: to when you're evaluating the quarterbacks, it kind of comes

1100
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: down to the guys around them as well. You got

1101
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: you know, Philip Lindsay, Royce Freeman, no offense in Courtland

1102
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: Sutton have got to be pleasant surprises for the people.

1103
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: Lynn Denver. It's not like he doesn't have anybody to

1104
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: throw too. Are they gonna be able to evaluate any

1105
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: quarterback they get given the fact that you know, they

1106
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: do have some weapons there and they're not bereft of talent. Well,

1107
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: Cortland Sutton has been tremendous, absolutely tremendous. Brandon Allen has

1108
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: made two or three very poor throws to him that

1109
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: Courtland has caught in double coverage triple coverage. One of

1110
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: them was for a touchdown two weeks ago. Courtland is

1111
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: playing like a top ten wide receiver right now, There's

1112
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Noah Fan is really the interesting

1113
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: one because early on in the season there was a

1114
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: lot of drop balls and there was a lot of

1115
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: question marks about whether he was turning down some passes

1116
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 1: because he didn't want to get hit. Last week, Brandon

1117
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: Allen through an interception deep in the red zone against

1118
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: Minnesota that Noah Fan really broke off the route because

1119
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: it looked like he was afraid of getting hit by

1120
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: I think it was Sandejo, the safety forward Minnesota. So

1121
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: people are questioning his toughness a little bit. But if

1122
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: you just look at the actual receptions, if you look

1123
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: at the yardage that he's had as a rookie tight end,

1124
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: it's been rather good, really, especially when you compare it

1125
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: to everybody else across the league. So I think there's

1126
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: just been some toughness questions with Noah Fant and it's

1127
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: been the drop balls that have been really just been

1128
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: plaguing him on the line. With Tyler Palomba's talk show

1129
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: radio host in Denver, Colorado, covers the Broncos spent eight

1130
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: years playing offensive line in the NFL. Tyler, I want

1131
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: to ask you about Philip Lindsay in his second year now.

1132
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: He's good, he's really quick. Does he have what it

1133
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: might take to being a workhorse, you know, belcoun running

1134
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: back for the Broncos or anybody in the league. Philip

1135
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: Lindsay is a special human being. He's a special player.

1136
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: And if you were to ask me, Philip Lindsay and

1137
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: his second year right now, is singleheadedly the most important

1138
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: leader on this football team. Guys they just they just

1139
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: they go towards him. He's just like the He radiates

1140
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: energy that is contagious and it's unbelievable the pride and

1141
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: power that this guy has for a smaller act. Now,

1142
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: will he ever be that full time featured workhorse. I

1143
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: doubt it. I think there's always going to be some

1144
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: concerns with that size, canny handle, the workload last year,

1145
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: he got hurt. It was a little bit of a

1146
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: freak injury. Broke his injury or broke his wrist. I

1147
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: believe it was in the forty nine ers game late

1148
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: last season. But as far as the energy, the spark

1149
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: all that, this guy is the emotional leader of this

1150
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: football team in his second year as an undrafted football player. Well,

1151
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: the Broncos came out of the gate in Minnesota last

1152
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: week firing on all cylinders, and I guess you gotta

1153
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: point to their leadership as being a big reason for that.

1154
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: What happened in the second half of the Minnesota game

1155
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: that allowed the Vikings to come back and win it, right,

1156
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: We were up twenty to nothing at halftime, and there

1157
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: was a stat put on TV that of the last

1158
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: ninety nine teams that have been up twenty to nothing

1159
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: at halftime, all ninety nine have won the game. So

1160
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: there's now one team in the last one hundred that

1161
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 1: have been up by twenty points at halftime and lost

1162
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: the game, and that's us. That's the Dever Broncos. So

1163
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: we've got that going for us. What really happened is

1164
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: the defense came out against that Vikings offense Vikings went

1165
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: up tempo, they stayed on the ball, and Kirk Cousins

1166
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: just destroyed our secondary. He just lit it up. We

1167
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 1: couldn't handle the tempo. And you know, in the first

1168
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: half you had Vic Fangio, the defensive guru, going up

1169
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: against our former head coach Gary Kubiak. The offensives are

1170
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: for Minnesota, and it was like it was Brainiac on

1171
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: brainiac and our guy was winning. Our guy was winning.

1172
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: But then when Gary Kubiak went up tempo for whatever reason,

1173
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: we just could not adjust on the fly and we

1174
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: had some major mistakes in the secondary. Kareem Jackson, our safety,

1175
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: has been phenomenal, probably our MVP on defense right now,

1176
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: but he had a couple of busted assignments. Chris Harris

1177
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: got exposed one time because Kareem was supposed to be there.

1178
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: Dig's got a long touchdown over Chris Harris that Chris

1179
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: looked like he got burned deep in reality, he thought

1180
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: he was going to have a deep help on it.

1181
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: So there was some miscommunication issues there. Offensively, though, heck,

1182
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: we put up twenty three points. Our average on the

1183
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: season is like fifteen or sixteen points per game, so

1184
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 1: we put up more points than we normally do. Titled

1185
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: the name guy on defense. Obviously, Von Miller five sacks.

1186
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: He's playing, I'm sure at a high level. But I

1187
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: wonder how far removed he is from, you know, his

1188
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: peak seasons, which might have been back in the Super

1189
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: Bowl run four or five years ago. Is von Miller

1190
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: is still a great, great defensive player. Von Miller is

1191
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: a great defensive player, but he's no longer Von Miller

1192
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: that you remember, you know, is he a superstar this year?

1193
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: He's not playing like it. Unfortunately. Von's a great friend

1194
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: of mine, He's a teammate of mine on the Super

1195
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: Bowl team. Respect his game, and heck, five sacks is

1196
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: still nothing to laugh at. There's a lot of guys

1197
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: in this league that love to have five sacks. But

1198
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: Von's been very quiet. His energy level has been a

1199
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: little bit weird. When you listen to the pressers, when

1200
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: you listen to talk to the media, he sounds pressed

1201
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: every single week. You can tell that it's wearing on him.

1202
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: This is the first time in his entire career in

1203
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: which he's ever been questioned, and he is getting questioned

1204
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: oftened out here. I think some of it is a

1205
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: little bit unfair. I mean, look, the reality is he's

1206
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: in what his eighth or ninth season, and there's a

1207
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: natural regression when you get older in the NFL. He's

1208
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: a good football player, he's probably even a great football player,

1209
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: but he's not a superstar right now. And last week

1210
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: after the Minnesota game, that was the most excited I've

1211
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: heard Von Miller all season long. I know that he

1212
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: got the guys together, had a huge team dinner at

1213
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: a fancy steakhouse here in Denver, trying to get the

1214
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: guys to rally around the good things that happened in Minnesota,

1215
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: because in reality, those were the most good plays, those

1216
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: were the most good moments we've had all season long.

1217
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: So Von maybe he's found a little bit of spark

1218
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens this week. Tyler. Last question

1219
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: I have for you, it's about the head coach, Vic Fangio.

1220
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: You know, he's been in the league forever, thirty plus years,

1221
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: forty years. Is a coach in his career. I've read

1222
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: something to disturbing a report about maybe a division between

1223
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: some of the players and Vic Fangio. Where does that

1224
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: stand and does he relate to these players? He's a

1225
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: little bit older than most first year head coaches. Yeah,

1226
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: that's been the storyline of the week, no doubt about it.

1227
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: Jason locking for I put it out there. He said

1228
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: that the coaches there's been offensive defensive divide, that Vic

1229
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 1: Fangio is questioning all the play calls that are going

1230
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: on in the headset, and that the players are not

1231
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: relating well to vic Fangio. I think there are truth

1232
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: in that story. Of course, I believe that Vic Fangio

1233
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: has had issues with offensive play calling. At times the

1234
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: defense has played great, the offense has struggle, So I

1235
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: think that he's questioned play calls. Sure. I also think

1236
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: it's very exaggerated. I mean, Vic Fangio's a he's a

1237
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: pretty calm guy. His demeanor, it's very consistent on the sideline,

1238
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: and I think the cameras would have picked up on

1239
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: this if this was really a consistent problem that's going on.

1240
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: I do know that he's a gruff. He's old school,

1241
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: and this schedule this year has been an issue for

1242
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: the players. So if there's something that the players do

1243
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: not like, it's the schedule. They don't have Tuesdays off,

1244
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: which was traditionally been the off day in the NFL.

1245
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: They come in on Mondays and Tuesdays more or less now,

1246
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: and the guys are struggling with that. So they're grinding

1247
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: it out a little bit physically and mentally. Overall, though,

1248
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: I think the guys still like him. Look, I played

1249
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: for Josh McDaniels. I was a part of a situation

1250
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: here in Denver in which we did not like our

1251
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: head coach, in which we were being grinded on and

1252
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: guys did not want to play for him. That's not

1253
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: what this feels like. Yeah, one last question for me,

1254
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: what's the overall vibe about going forward with the Denver Broncos.

1255
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: Obviously they're gonna have to make a decision at quarterback.

1256
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: Who's it gonna be and is their second rounder gonna

1257
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: be the guy? What about John Elway's leadership and how

1258
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: that's going, And also the future of Vic Fangio. If

1259
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: this season does take a downturn and remain like it has,

1260
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: obviously he probably will survive it. They'll probably give him

1261
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: a second year. What's the vibe about that and going

1262
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: forward to Broncos as an organization. Yeah, I talked to

1263
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: some sources very close in the bet in the building

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Speaker 1: last night about as high up as you can get,

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Speaker 1: and they assured me that Vic Fangio is not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: People are happy with Vic Fangio. I do not expect

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Speaker 1: any sort of change there. There was even some radical

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Speaker 1: talk about whether Vic would want to quit and go

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Speaker 1: back to being a defensive coordinator. I don't see that happening.

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Speaker 1: That sounds insane to me. So the reality is the

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Speaker 1: best thing for this franchise is to move forward with

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Speaker 1: a Vic Fangio. I think as a little turnover as

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Speaker 1: you can possibly have is gonna benefit this football team.

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Speaker 1: We just got to find a quarterback. That's what we

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Speaker 1: really gotta do. We gotta find our quarterback. And to

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Speaker 1: be honest, I watch your guy and I think to myself, man,

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Speaker 1: we were on the board at number five. We drafted

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Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb. He was great. And this is not about

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Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb, but we had an opportunity to go get

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Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback like you have and Allan who's improving

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Speaker 1: week after week, year after year. And he was writing

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Speaker 1: in our backyard. He was a John Elwood prototypical guy.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we u the boat on him. Well,

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Speaker 1: it sounds super familiar, right, we feelion years without him.

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Speaker 1: We feel your pain, dot Tyler, we feel your pain. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we traded away the pick that was that turned into

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes too, So there we're all in that boat

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Speaker 1: together at some point. Hey, Tyler, thanks for this. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk again. Thank you very much. Thanks guys. Tyler Palumbus,

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Speaker 1: offensive linemen in the league for eight years, including with

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Speaker 1: Denver Now radio talk show hosted one oh four point

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Speaker 1: three the Fan in Denver joining us on the line.

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Speaker 1: We thank him for that. One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalaida Health from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park, and

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Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live Chamber. Fe Steve Chansker, thanks to Tyler Palumbus for

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Speaker 1: joining us. I did his show yesterday. Um, he's an

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Speaker 1: interesting cat, his buddies. Interesting guy. Yeah. Hey, the Bills

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01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: are at practice today and after practice, Corey Leegate schedule

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01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: to join us. Two o'clock hour. We're gonna hear from

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Speaker 1: Robert May's writer for The Ringer. He's done an outstanding

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Speaker 1: long piece about Josh Allen. So that's coming up, and

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Speaker 1: we're moments away from talking with Shelby Harris, defensive linemen

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Speaker 1: for the Denver Broncos. Who's going to join us live

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Speaker 1: from Denver so the Bills get set to play the Broncos. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're asking this question on Twitter. What's the best part

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Speaker 1: of this year's Buffalo Bill's defense? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Give us a call eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: or toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty Bill. Right now, let's take you live to Denver, Colorado,

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Speaker 1: where we're live with the Denver Broncos defensive end Shelby

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Speaker 1: Harris on the line with us. Shelby, John Murphy and

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here in Buffalo. Thank you very much for

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Speaker 1: coming on with us today. We appreciate it. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me, guys, appreciate it. What a day for you

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Speaker 1: last Sunday up in Minnesota. A loss, yes, but man,

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Speaker 1: you were all over the field. Great day. Three sacks,

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Speaker 1: huh yeah, man, Just you know how the opportunity to

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01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: go produce things fell in. A couple of them fell

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Speaker 1: into my lap. But you know, that's just how the

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Speaker 1: game goes sometimes. Hey, they all count. She'll we take

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Speaker 1: them when you can get them right. It's good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Things must have gone well overall, at least first half

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Speaker 1: for the Broncos in that game, right, you shut them

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Speaker 1: out first half? Yeah, you know, we felt confident, we

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Speaker 1: felt dominant, you know, the first half. But the second

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Speaker 1: half was a different story. But you know, that first

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Speaker 1: half though, you know, we definitely felt like we were

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Speaker 1: playing to our potential. Yeah, you got drafted by the

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Speaker 1: Raiders back in fourteen. You came in as a nose

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Speaker 1: guard and they've moved you out to defensive end. As

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Speaker 1: have you liked that transition moving a little bit further

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Speaker 1: away from the football on the defensive line. Well, I

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01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,959
Speaker 1: was actually I was a defensive end when I first

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Speaker 1: came out, and then and then, uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: started moving slowly down the line. When I first came

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Speaker 1: to Denver, I was a defensive end and a three

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Speaker 1: fourth game. But then last year I started playing a

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Speaker 1: little bit more nose, and this year I was playing

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01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: nose and then then, you know, a little bit past

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Speaker 1: a couple of games through the year, I moved out

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Speaker 1: to end, and uh, I love it. You know, it's

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01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: a little bit more space to work with, a little

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Speaker 1: bit more you use it, quickness, a little bit easier

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Speaker 1: a little better, So it's uh, definitely faced my space.

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Speaker 1: And what do you think what did they tell you

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01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: when they started moving around? Was it because of injuries

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01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: or was it because they just liked your skill set

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: better away from the ball? Uh? You know, I feel

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01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: like they just wanted to, you know, we wanted to

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01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: put our guy Mike pu setting and knows and moving

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01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: in and it was just to kind of show up

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01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: the run game. And uh, you know, it's been working

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Speaker 1: dividends since then. Shelby, at your time with the Broncos

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Speaker 1: here comes after you know, a little bit of bouncing

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Speaker 1: around the league, as you mentioned the Raiders, a little

1357
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: bit of time with the Jets, the Cowboys before you

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Speaker 1: made it there to Denver. What has allowed you to

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Speaker 1: settle in with the Broncos the last couple of years here?

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Speaker 1: What do you find there in Denver that maybe you

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Speaker 1: didn't get in your first couple of stops in the NFL. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I believe it's just being comfortable in the scheme,

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Speaker 1: you know, finding the right scheme for you. You know,

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Speaker 1: not every scheme really works out for every player, and

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Speaker 1: and you know, just kind of like when I first

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Speaker 1: got here, it was more of an attacking three four defense,

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Speaker 1: and it was like it was kind of getting off

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Speaker 1: the ball and that suits definitely as suits our strengths

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Speaker 1: a lot more. And uh, you know, I was able

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Speaker 1: to make plays. And you know, our first preseason here,

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Speaker 1: I had four sacks in the preseason, so you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of made a statement. And then my first year

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Speaker 1: I had five and a half during the season. So

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Speaker 1: it was just you know, it was constant work and

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Speaker 1: just getting comfortable. But you know, it's just it's truly

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Speaker 1: Bill Blessing and being able to to play in demotis

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Speaker 1: last three years considering how much I bounced around my

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Speaker 1: first three years, so it's something special. Well, certainly when

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Speaker 1: when people around the country think about the Denver defense,

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Speaker 1: they think about von Miller and the past rush and

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Speaker 1: the fact that you know, this is a team that

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Speaker 1: was in the Super Bowl not too many years ago,

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Speaker 1: but this is a defense that plays pretty well all

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Speaker 1: the way around. Your number four overall in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. What's the personality of your defense? You said

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Speaker 1: it was an attacking three four defense. What else about

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Speaker 1: this defense makes it so effective? You know, I just

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01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: like we have a bunch of guys that play for

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Speaker 1: each other and you know, we all have each other's back,

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01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: so are very close knit group and we really just

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Speaker 1: we don't want to let the other guy down, you know.

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Speaker 1: And it's really I feel like it pushed us to

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Speaker 1: our next level. It's where we we pretty much we

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01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: go out and we set out for each other, and

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Speaker 1: you know, it just that just results in making plays.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the defense has really been stepping it

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Speaker 1: up this year on the line with Shelby Harris, Bronco's

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Speaker 1: defensive and I wonder what difference the new head coach,

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Speaker 1: Vic Fangio has made, a guy who's has a reputation

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Speaker 1: as a defensive specialist in this league. What has he

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Speaker 1: done schematically that's helped your group and maybe even you know,

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Speaker 1: attitude wise, that's changed your group a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: feel like, you know, like schematically, we're just in the

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Speaker 1: right places to make plays. You know, not necessarily the

1405
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Speaker 1: turnovers are there, but you know, the run stops and

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Speaker 1: you know, the artists for games and stuff. I feel

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Speaker 1: like we're just in the perfect places and the perfect

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Speaker 1: calls to make plays. And it's just really, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's really bolsted our defense this year. You

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Speaker 1: know attitude wives, I feel you know, it's just like

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Speaker 1: a no nonsense approach. We don't we don't make excuses.

1412
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Speaker 1: We just go out there and get the job done.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like that's what you asked for of

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Speaker 1: your defense. Well, we asked you when you got on

1415
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: the when he first came on and he had three

1416
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Speaker 1: sacks last week. You've got thirty six tackles through ten games.

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Speaker 1: It's a career. How you really seem to have taken

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Speaker 1: a big step forward this year in vic Fangio's system.

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Speaker 1: Has it been that system? Is it something? Uh? You

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Speaker 1: know that you've something has clicked for you. You found

1421
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Speaker 1: a home. You say you're more comfortable in the scheme.

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Speaker 1: What is really clicked for you? Because you've really taken

1423
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Speaker 1: a step forward this year? Even Pro Football Focus has

1424
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Speaker 1: you very highly rated all the way across the league.

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Speaker 1: What's changed for you anything? I'm getting more play time,

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Speaker 1: I'm starting You know. The thing is like my first

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Speaker 1: two years here, I was the first guy in by

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Speaker 1: the backup, so I would necessarily wasn't getting as many

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Speaker 1: reps as I did. I think already this year I

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Speaker 1: have more reps than I did last year. And so

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just honestly just getting more reps. And

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Speaker 1: if more reps comes the comfortability of you know, just

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Speaker 1: being in the game. And and uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: always start. I always knew I could make plays in

1435
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Speaker 1: this league. And so finally to be a starter and

1436
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Speaker 1: get that chance to be out there forty fifty plays

1437
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 1: a game, you know, it's starting to show up. With

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01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: Bronco's defensive end, Shelby Harris three sacks last week in

1439
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: the game at Minnesota, we talked about the first half,

1440
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Speaker 1: what happened in the second half, y'all mean, in particular,

1441
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: how much did Minnesota using no huddle? How much did

1442
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Speaker 1: an impact how your defense played in the second half

1443
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Speaker 1: last week. I don't think the no huddle really changed anything.

1444
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Speaker 1: I really just feel like we just made we made mistakes.

1445
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: We show ourselves in the foot and a lot of

1446
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: a lot of our I feel like problems have come

1447
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: this year when we make mental mistakes in the game,

1448
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Speaker 1: and you know, mental mistakes in the NFL get you

1449
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: beat and you know that's that's that's happened to us

1450
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: in a couple game so far. You know, where we

1451
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: just we just can't put a complete game together. But

1452
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: you know it's slowly starting to come come together and

1453
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: as something to be optimistic about. But you know, we

1454
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: we can't beat ourselves. We have to make the other

1455
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: team beat us. Well, you've got a team on the

1456
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: other side of the football. I know you're a defensive guy.

1457
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: Probably don't spend too much time talking the offensive guys,

1458
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: although you know you're in the locker room. How is

1459
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 1: that offense and your team rallied around? Brandon Allen, a

1460
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: guy who has has been in the league for a

1461
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 1: couple of years and finally getting a chance to play

1462
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 1: extended time, came out and hung twenty points on the

1463
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: on the Vikings last week, and then he couldn't finish

1464
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: the game with point wise and get to win. But

1465
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: how is your team rallied around a young guy, or

1466
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 1: at least a young player like Brandon Allen. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of got a funny story about that, because

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01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 1: I remember I came in on a Monday and I

1469
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: heard about the whole Joe Flacco being out for the year,

1470
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: well for a couple of games with his neck, and

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Speaker 1: we were all like me and a couple of guys.

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Speaker 1: As I was sitting there talking, I was like oh,

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01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: like like he's just talking and it's like all right,

1474
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: well Brandon, and I was like, we don't do we

1475
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: even know what he can do. And then I remember

1476
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 1: he walked in he's that guys don't look so scared. Yeah,

1477
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: he's like I got He's like I got this. And

1478
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: so ever since then I was like, all right, yeah,

1479
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: we can roll with this guy. You know, um, you

1480
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: know the experience. You know, obviously it's huge for a quarterback,

1481
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: but you know, he's running on the fly and he's

1482
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: making plays and he's mobile and he has a good arm.

1483
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: So it's just uh, you know, it's definitely encouraging, you

1484
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: know when things break down and he can go make

1485
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: plays with his legs, uh, you know, encourage the defense.

1486
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: And you know, he definitely has a whole team behind him.

1487
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: I wonder what you see when you watch video this

1488
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: week of the Bills offense and what you think about

1489
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and the Buffalo offense. You know, he's a

1490
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: big guy. You know, he has a cannon on him,

1491
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: and he definitely is really mobile and it's hard to

1492
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: bring down. And you know, and they definitely they like

1493
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: they have a good running back. There, a good old line.

1494
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: So I see a lot of good there and I

1495
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: see a lot of um of potential for their offense.

1496
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: And so we got to come out there with our

1497
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: a game and really try to you know, knock down

1498
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: to take down the run and then rally the past.

1499
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: I know you guys spend a lot of time in

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01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: the film room. We're just gonna ask you what some

1501
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: general impressions are Buffalo's got when the season started. They

1502
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: have four guys who weren't even playing on the team

1503
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: last year playing on the offensive line. They've kind of

1504
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: hung in there. Um, with a new offensive line to

1505
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,879
Speaker 1: begin this year, how's that offensive line? From a defensive

1506
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 1: lineman's perspective, talk about, you know, how's Buffalo's offensive line

1507
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: come together, and what are their strengths and and maybe

1508
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: what they don't do well or well, what do you

1509
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: see there? Uh? You know, I see a big group.

1510
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 1: They're big physical group. Um. You know, Mitch Morris is

1511
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: a is a good center. You know, we played him

1512
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 1: in Kansas City the last couple of years, Um, so

1513
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: we were familiar with him. But you know Feliciano, I

1514
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: actually I was in Oakland when he came out, So

1515
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I know a little bit about him,

1516
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: but you know, they have a big physical group, and

1517
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, they just like they like to like to

1518
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: knock heads. They like to go out there and hit people,

1519
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: you know, and that's really what you want from an

1520
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 1: old line. And you know, weaknesses wise, you know, it's

1521
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: it's you don't really see much. You know, it's just uh,

1522
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: you just gotta it's gonna be a battle and you

1523
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 1: just gotta If they give you a play, you gotta

1524
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: take it, and you gotta gotta make your count. Shelby,

1525
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 1: have you ever played here in Buffalo before in your career?

1526
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: So actually my first career sack with the Broncos was

1527
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: in Buffalo for Richie in commuito. Wow, there you go

1528
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: tw years ago. The yeah, two years ago. Who did

1529
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: you sack Peterman? It was Tyrod Taylor, Tyrod Taylor. There

1530
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: you go. Okay, so you've been here, you know what

1531
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 1: to expect as far as weather and crowd and all that, right,

1532
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: you were good with that. Well, actually it was like

1533
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 1: early in the season, so it's actually a very hot game.

1534
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: It's very hot. So I heard it also snow on

1535
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: Saturday or something like that. Shelby from I'm from I'm

1536
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,839
Speaker 1: from Milwaukee, so it doesn't really bother I'm from Wisconsin,

1537
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: and everything doesn't bother me. It ain't gonna be hot

1538
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: this weekend. Shelby, Hey, thanks for coming on and wish Yeah.

1539
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: Thanks man, Thanks Shelby. I appreciate you guys having me.

1540
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 1: Thank you. We appreciate it too. Shelby Harris, defensive end

1541
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 1: for the Denver Broncos, had three sacks in the game

1542
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: last week in Minnesota. They wound up losing it by

1543
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: twenty seven twenty three, but a career high three sacks

1544
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: for Shelby Harris. Yeah, you know, yeah, I didn't realize

1545
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: he'd played here in that Denver game against the Bills

1546
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. There, Yeah, that's uh guys,

1547
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: remember this, that first sack. I guess yeah, you know, yeah,

1548
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: that's uh. Yeah. He came out as a sixth round

1549
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: draft pick in twenty fourteen, and he bounced around. And

1550
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: you see a lot of guys do that. They bounce

1551
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: around and they'll pick up some things. He was with

1552
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: the Jets, he was with the Cowboys, and guys pick

1553
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: up little tidbits of maybe a work ethic, or they

1554
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: watch a guy or somebody has an effect on him

1555
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: in one of their stops along the way, and it clicks,

1556
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: something clicks for him. He found a home with the

1557
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos and has been there for a couple of

1558
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: years and now has evolved into what is really one

1559
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: of their starting players. Yeah, and look, you got the

1560
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 1: guys following that path here in Buffalo, right. Some of

1561
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: our offensive linemen here in Buffalo kind of on that path, right,

1562
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: And guys who I don't think I want to leave either,

1563
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: even though they might just be on one year contract.

1564
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 1: And I think too. It's interesting because Sean McDermott has

1565
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: made a big effort to and part of his building

1566
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: the culture here in Buffalo has been development of young

1567
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: players that they draft or bring in, giving them a

1568
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: chance to practice, giving them a chance to get good

1569
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: enough to contribute on the field. And it's a big

1570
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: part of what they want to build here. And I

1571
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: think you see it when you see guys do a difference.

1572
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 1: Some guys bounce around, and some guys do have a

1573
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,600
Speaker 1: chance to hang in there on a practice squad a

1574
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: year or two and then start to contribute. And you

1575
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,600
Speaker 1: see it here in Buffalo, and obviously you saw it

1576
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: in a different way with Shelby Harris. Shelby Harris with

1577
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: the three sacks in the loss at Minnesota last week,

1578
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 1: and Shelby Harris says, I'm looking it up four sacks

1579
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 1: for the season. It's a career year for him, as

1580
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: we said, a journeyman type of player, and it comes

1581
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,480
Speaker 1: at the right time. He's going to be an unrestricted

1582
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: free agent coming up next ring, so he's having a

1583
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 1: good year right when he needs it. All right, The

1584
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: Bills have a defensive lineman just added to the roster

1585
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, Corey Legit, and he's scheduled

1586
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: to join us coming off the practice field momentarily. We'll

1587
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: be live with Corey Legit when we return after this break.

1588
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: Come on back, One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

1589
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: Coming here from the Seneca Studio in Archard Park. This

1590
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back. It's One Bill's Live.

1591
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: John Murphy with Steve Tansker coming here from the Seneca Studio.

1592
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 1: It looks kind of like defensive lineman day. Right. We

1593
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 1: just talked to Shelby Harris of the Broccos. Now we

1594
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 1: have Buffalo's newest defensive Lineman Corey legit in studio with us.

1595
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 1: Corey welcome, Welcome to the Bills, Welcome to our show.

1596
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you guys to having me. If you

1597
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 1: settled in, yeah, Ben here a couple of weeks. How's

1598
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 1: that going. It's going great, you know, uh, mineus the weather,

1599
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 1: you know, coming from California to here, it's different. But

1600
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 1: you know, I'm justin and I'm dressing. I'm dressing appropriate

1601
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, it's money well spent on gear that

1602
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: keeps you warm. Yes, exactly. At this stage of your career,

1603
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 1: former first round pick of the Chargers, you have to

1604
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: I would think you really got to want to play,

1605
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 1: to make moves like you've made, going to Oakland, then

1606
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: spending the first half of the season with them, and

1607
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: then coming to Buffalo in mid season. It's like you're

1608
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: not done yet. You must feel like I'm not done yet.

1609
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I definitely feel like I still have

1610
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: a lot more football left than me and it's just

1611
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: I just have to go out and show it. You know,

1612
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 1: after being in California for most of my career to

1613
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 1: come here, this is by far, you know, one of

1614
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: the best places far as with people. Man, I mean,

1615
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: the people here are amazing and I'm just glad to

1616
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: be here right now. Well, you showed you still had

1617
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 1: a left when you came in and got the sack

1618
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 1: on Ryan Fitzpatrick, and that was I mean, it was

1619
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: a legit sack. I mean you busted through and got

1620
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: him on the on the when he tried to spin

1621
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: out of it. What that mean to you? I mean,

1622
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: it's nice to come into a new team, I mean

1623
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 1: because I did years and years ago. Where you come

1624
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: in and you think you do something that says, okay,

1625
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: it tells the guys in the locker room you can

1626
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: play right right right. For me, I mean it was

1627
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 1: a very emotional one, you know, because the ups and

1628
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: downs and the injury that I suffered. Most guys don't

1629
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: come back from, you know, Victor cous and one of

1630
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: my good friend Nate Palmer, you know, he retired after

1631
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 1: both of them retired after getting his injury. And for

1632
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 1: me to come back and you know, to go out

1633
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: there and play, I'm playing for those guys and also

1634
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: for myself because I wasn't gonna let this injury defeat me.

1635
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: So to get that sack, it was very, very very

1636
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: important for me. And it felt great. What was the

1637
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 1: injury corps quiet tended rupture, completely dissocated the kneecap from

1638
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: the tendon. Oh yeah, and then happened last year with

1639
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 1: the chargers. Yes, last year with the charges, and that

1640
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: that process start and it starts right away after the injury.

1641
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: How did that go? I mean how I mean there

1642
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: must have been some dark days. Oh yeah, definitely. Um

1643
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: went and got the injury happening on Sunday, got the

1644
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 1: surgery on Wednesday, the day before Thanksgiving. And I was

1645
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 1: in a straight legged cast for six weeks, couldn't be

1646
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 1: in my knee. Then I went to a straight legged

1647
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: knee brace for another six weeks. So for three months

1648
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: I was walking straight legged. And um, you know, I'm

1649
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: thankful now that I can ben, run, jump, I can

1650
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 1: do everything. So I took full advantage of a rehab.

1651
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 1: And you know, my wife me each and every day

1652
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 1: to get up and go. Even on the days that

1653
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go, in the days I was like,

1654
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 1: maybe it's time to call it quits, she kept me going.

1655
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 1: That's the hard part too, is when you start to

1656
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: be able to bend the knee again. It's not just

1657
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: it's not just the tendon that doesn't want to bend

1658
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: your holding joint, doesn't want to be the scar tissue.

1659
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah that, Oh my gosh, I remember that. What kept

1660
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 1: you going The love for the game and my wife

1661
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,600
Speaker 1: pushing me each and every day. That's the That's the

1662
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 1: only thing that kept me going, to be truthful, The

1663
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: love that I know that I still have for the game.

1664
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 1: And the fact that I want to win a super Bowl.

1665
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: What's out there? That's the thing. You want to win

1666
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 1: a super Bowl? What else is there for you? I

1667
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,560
Speaker 1: know that's a kind of a team thing, and you

1668
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 1: want to go someplace where you can contend for a championship.

1669
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 1: What drives you personally when you're on the field, I mean,

1670
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: is it to get a sack? Is it to is

1671
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: it just to contribute? What drives you? Just to contribute

1672
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: and just be disruptive. I want to be one of

1673
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 1: the most disruptive guys in the game. And I want

1674
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: guys to talk about me. You know. That's it, you know,

1675
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: I just want to know let guys know that, hey,

1676
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: this old guy can still he still has it. You're old,

1677
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: You're twenty nine years old. That's I'll tell you. In football, years.

1678
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 1: That's old. You look around in the locker room, look

1679
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: at Lorenzo. Yeah, yeah, see he's dinosaur old. He's on

1680
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: the show. All right, I'm gonna make a note of that.

1681
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: Corey Legion is our guest coming to us right after

1682
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: the Bill's practice today, getting set for the Denver Broncos.

1683
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: Want to ask you this Sunday will be your second

1684
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: ever game in the stadium in Orchard Park, right, yes, yes, yes,

1685
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: fond memories of the first one five years ago with

1686
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Oh yeah, I got a victory. Yeah, some tackles, sacking,

1687
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 1: a couple of pressures. Yeah, and made defensive player of

1688
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: the week, six tacos, a sack and you forced EJ.

1689
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 1: Manuel to take a safety, right, yes, some pass fresh pressure.

1690
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 1: It had to be one of your pivotal games in

1691
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 1: your career, I would think, right, Oh yeah, definitely. I

1692
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: would say it was definitely one of the most pivotal

1693
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: games in my career. And uh, it just kept me

1694
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 1: going that that game there, kept me, you know, in it,

1695
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, as a young player. So I know you're

1696
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 1: you're in a incent a tough spot a little bit

1697
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 1: personally quick because the emotions and because all human beings.

1698
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: You're kind of parachuting in halfway through a season where

1699
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 1: team's kind of been together for the OTAs and stuff.

1700
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: What have you noticed first and foremost about where this

1701
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: Bills team is right now with their you know, they're

1702
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: seven and three and they're again and they're pushing, they're

1703
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: thinking playoffs and all that stuff. When you got what

1704
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: strikes you about this organization now about the new team.

1705
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: You're part of the care that the owner has and

1706
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 1: the belief that the team has, the mindset that the

1707
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 1: team half. These guys believe that they're going to go

1708
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,719
Speaker 1: out and win each and every game, and they're very confident.

1709
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 1: And that's that's half the battle in football, when you

1710
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 1: have the mindset to know that you're going out here

1711
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 1: to kick someone's you know, yeah, you know. So that's

1712
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 1: that's the mindset that these guys have here, and that's

1713
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: what I love and that's why, you know, me being

1714
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: here has been great these past a couple of weeks

1715
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,560
Speaker 1: of you got a sack last Sunday in Miami. The

1716
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 1: past fus comes from everywhere on this team, though, and

1717
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 1: we were noting fifteen different Bills players have a sack

1718
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 1: this year. Nobody else in the NFL can say that

1719
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: that means something, doesn't it that you got sacks coming

1720
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: from all over the defensive side of the ball. Oh yeah, definitely,

1721
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: definitely that means a lot. You know. That means your

1722
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 1: defense is you know, making teams either one dimensional or

1723
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 1: you got some real good rushes and some real good

1724
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: blisses called up. So for for defense to have that

1725
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: many players with sacks, that's you tilt to to that.

1726
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 1: So you were in the AFC West for eight years.

1727
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 1: Your first round traffick, you've played the Denver Broncos a ton.

1728
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: What what are we looking at? We're looking at a

1729
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: team that plays together offensively, I mean offensive line. Of

1730
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: those guys, they play as one unit and no matter

1731
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: what their record say, they're still a pretty good team,

1732
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: you know. Overall, I mean that defense is is very outstanding,

1733
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 1: and uh, you know us as a defense, we have

1734
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 1: to go out and play better than them this Sunday

1735
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 1: if we want to win the game. Offensive line, they

1736
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 1: have some talent up front, right there. A couple of

1737
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 1: injuries I think earlier this week, right then, yeah, they

1738
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: have some talent Ronod Larry to dovette Um and then

1739
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: the other guy, Garret Bows. He's a very good football

1740
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,719
Speaker 1: player too. And then they got the guy from Miami

1741
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: that they got last year, Juwan James. He's I believe

1742
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: he had be coming back this week, and if he's not,

1743
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: it'll be sixty eight Winston. I believe it's his name.

1744
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 1: He looks pretty good too. Hey, what, how have your

1745
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 1: teammates adopted you here in Buffalo? I think they take

1746
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 1: pride in sort of making newcomers feel welcome. Do you

1747
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: feel that already? Oh? Yeah, I felt that the first

1748
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 1: day I was here. Yeah, I felt very welcome. And

1749
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: that's just not a thing that I'm saying. You know,

1750
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: guys actually came over and introduced theirself to me, from

1751
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: Jerry to the equipment guys, everyone, and they made me

1752
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: feel very welcomed in that home. You know. Well, I

1753
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: hope you have a good long run here as long

1754
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: as you want. Thanks for coming on the show with us.

1755
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys, Thank you, Thanks for coming on. Man.

1756
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I always stay one piece court Legit builds

1757
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman joining inside on the show. Build's defense

1758
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 1: pretty good, as we mentioned, and Tredavious White having a

1759
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 1: great year. He'll match up with Courtland Sutton a lot

1760
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: you would think this, uh, this Sunday, And here's what

1761
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: he had to say about that in the locker room

1762
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: just yesterday. I mean he can run. Though he can run,

1763
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 1: don't let it, let it fool you. He can run

1764
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 1: up just from watching off him. But we just got

1765
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 1: to try to match him at the point of a tech,

1766
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: try to jump up as high as he can and

1767
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 1: just try to make it difficult for him to make

1768
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: those contested catches. And then and on that he makes

1769
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: such contesting catches, how important is it to stay on

1770
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: through the entire catch when you're in that type of situation.

1771
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: He's a big, strong guy, man, so it's gonna be

1772
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: tough for us to do it. But we gotta get

1773
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: in the weight room and do I'll push up to

1774
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: night this week for sure. Man. He's a he's a

1775
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: low so, uh, it's gonna be tough for us, but

1776
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: I feel like we're gonna be ready. Do you have

1777
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: to prepare differently throughout the week if you're going against

1778
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 1: a bigger physical guy than if you are a smaller guy,

1779
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 1: kind of does your technique change? And anyway you not

1780
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: to give out secrets, but you have to ways to

1781
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: do It's this different things that you do, just try

1782
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: to mix it up. But we got guys on the

1783
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: on the team that you know, we can pretty much

1784
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 1: go up and getting in practice and try to uh

1785
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: send kind of mimic. They buy the style, they buy

1786
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: the type, so uh, you know, we got guys around

1787
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 1: that can pretty much hipless with that. So if we

1788
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: want to try different things that at practice, it is

1789
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: the time to do it. Dramas White going up against

1790
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton. Thanks again to Corey Leegart for joining us.

1791
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: An impressive guy. We say every time a guy comes

1792
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 1: in here, the new guys right like him, they walk

1793
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: out and we say, I can see how that guy

1794
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: fits into what they're trying to build here, can't you?

1795
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: Former first round pick? That guy's got talent and is uh,

1796
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, nine years in the league now had his

1797
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 1: best moment in his career in the stadium where he's

1798
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: going to play again on Sunday. But you just see

1799
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 1: how his temperament and even his approach kind of fits

1800
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: into what the Bills are building here. Stephen get that

1801
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 1: right away. Yeah, and he's we should have a running

1802
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: bet as to when Sean mcdermot's asked about Corey Allegian

1803
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: if he how if he uses the word DNA, you know,

1804
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what he's got. I mean, he's got

1805
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: that intelligent, kind of calm way, big picture looking at

1806
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:30,600
Speaker 1: what he's doing and how he fits in and what

1807
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be doing. And um, he understands that,

1808
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 1: you know that the ups and downs of the league,

1809
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 1: and he's fought through a lot of adversity. That that

1810
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 1: injury he mentioned that ruptured quad ten. Let me think

1811
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 1: about that. That's guys don't come back from that. And

1812
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: here he is getting sacks for the Buffalo Bills against

1813
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins Sunday, and you kind of wish the

1814
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 1: bet he wished for bet the best for guys like that,

1815
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 1: whether they play for your team or not. I mean, yeah,

1816
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 1: it's it's it's nice to see. And he got up,

1817
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: even tapped Fitzpatrick on the shoulder, you know, gave him

1818
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 1: a like wow, that was nice. You know. He said

1819
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: it was a big deal for him and he acted

1820
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: like it. Corey Legit part of the Bills defensive line rotation.

1821
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: Now nine year veteran former standout at Illinois, native of

1822
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: South Florida. Hi Alia Florida played at Illinois. I said,

1823
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: signed its a free agent at mid season for the

1824
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 1: Bills and making contributions. That's what you look to see.

1825
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 1: The Bills practice is over, obviously, Corey Legit part of

1826
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 1: that practice out there. They've worked outdoors yesterday, probably doing

1827
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,520
Speaker 1: in the stadium tomorrow as they get set for the Broncos.

1828
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: Bills passed the midway point of the season, just six

1829
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 1: games left. We got I think a pretty good Twitter

1830
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: question going on. I want to hear from you through

1831
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 1: week eleven. The Bills with the third best total defense

1832
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 1: in the league. You know that, right, They give up

1833
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 1: three hundred four yards or three hundred four yards per

1834
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,679
Speaker 1: game the Broncos number four, by the way. But what's

1835
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: been the best part about the Buffalo defense so far

1836
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 1: this year? We've got time to talk it over with you.

1837
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 1: Eight oh three oh five fifty and toll free one

1838
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. You can

1839
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: send in a tweet. Let's go to the tweet sheet.

1840
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:58,839
Speaker 1: It's brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

1841
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 1: movers of the Buffalo Bill. What do you have on

1842
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 1: the tweet chets now from Max. He says, the solidarity

1843
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: the secondary immediately comes to mind. A lot of the

1844
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 1: sacks are coverage sacks, and this defense doesn't give up

1845
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: big passing plays. With Doctor Poyer and mister Hyde at

1846
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 1: safety alongside Trey White as your shut down corner, this

1847
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: d is scary good. That's interesting too, because he's right

1848
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: the way this defense presents itself to you know, to

1849
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: football fans, it it doesn't come across as spectacularly suffocating,

1850
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: but when you look at the statistics, it's like, wow,

1851
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: look at what are they doing, you know, and they

1852
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: don't give up big plays, particularly pass plays. Uh, their

1853
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 1: defensive line doesn't really you know, we're talking about guys

1854
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 1: getting sacks. Well there's it's they're so spread out and

1855
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 1: the guys that gets sacks, it's not like you say, wow,

1856
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 1: like von Miller can really rush the passer, or you know,

1857
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 1: Khalil matt can really rush the passer. You know, Joey

1858
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: Boza can really we don't have one of those guys.

1859
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 1: You know, Jerry Hughes is a very effective pass rusher,

1860
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: but teams know coming in they got to get rid

1861
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: of the ball. So our team gets sacks from other

1862
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: places and it's really a weird defense when you think

1863
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: about it, because, like we're saying, we're getting this from

1864
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: all our people who are tweeting at us. It's hard

1865
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: to put your thumb That's why we asked this question.

1866
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 1: It's hard to put your thumb on that one quality

1867
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 1: that makes it a special defense. But there's no doubt

1868
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 1: it is yep. One more from the tweet sheet. This

1869
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 1: comes from Bills and Mets fan. He says, lately, I

1870
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 1: really like the play of the defensive line after Harrison

1871
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: went down, with their weakness Harrison went down, Harrison Phillips,

1872
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: their weaknesses were exposed. They've really worked hard to become better.

1873
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 1: Last week, sacks were awesome and the goal line stands impressive.

1874
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: We're becoming a better team. That's a really good observation there,

1875
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 1: Bills and Mets fan. That's what you want, right You

1876
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: want to get better as the season goes along, and

1877
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 1: based on you know, and it you know, okay, it

1878
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 1: was only Miami, but based on that game, you can

1879
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 1: see an uptick and maybe they continue it this week.

1880
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 1: That's what they're looking for this week against the Denver Bronco.

1881
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: And it's interesting. I think we talk about a lot

1882
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: about how the offense has gotten better and you know,

1883
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's and you know is complete. Interceptions are gone,

1884
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, for the time being at least, and they're

1885
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 1: not turning the ball over and they're scoring more points.

1886
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 1: The defense is getting better too. They're finding out more

1887
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: about the guys. They've got their rotations becoming more refined.

1888
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: They're starting to they never sit still, even on that

1889
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 1: side of the ball. You'd think a lot of teams

1890
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 1: would hesitate to make any changes at all on a

1891
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 1: defense that's top three in the league in every major

1892
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: category in some minor categories, but they have continued to

1893
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 1: tinker with it. The rotation ratios are different now, they're

1894
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: starting to work Kevin Johnson into the mix. After you

1895
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 1: know that, teams are having to go after somebody other

1896
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 1: than Tardavious White, so the team's trying to cover that up.

1897
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this, I went back this morning.

1898
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: You saw me. I was watching that Miami game again.

1899
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 1: Early in that game, it was laughable how bad at

1900
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 1: Miami's offense looked against our defense. They couldn't do anything.

1901
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: I mean, we were it was like one run play bang,

1902
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 1: loss of three, another one loss of one. It's third

1903
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: and now fourteen after two straight losses on a play

1904
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:03,839
Speaker 1: and then it's like a batted pass. They were horrible

1905
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:05,560
Speaker 1: in that game, and a lot of it had to

1906
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 1: do with how good that Bill's defense was. I mean,

1907
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 1: they suffocated Miami. Then they come out and they did

1908
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 1: it again. On the next series. There were two run plays.

1909
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 1: They took two losses, and then Fitzpatrick finally comes back

1910
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,640
Speaker 1: and hits a curl route for a first down, and

1911
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,680
Speaker 1: that was the first play that was a positive for

1912
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. In the first half a quarter of play,

1913
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: the Bill's defense was hammering them, and you know, it

1914
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 1: will never show up as a statistic because there wasn't

1915
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 1: an interception, there wasn't a fumble recovery or anything like that.

1916
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 1: But man, oh man, they're getting better on that side

1917
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 1: of the ball. I hope you're right. We'll see now

1918
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna you know, they're gonna play a better team.

1919
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 1: So it's not gonna look good team and not a

1920
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 1: really good offense, but a much better defense, a much

1921
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 1: better defense in Denver, So it's gonna look different this week.

1922
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 1: But man, oh man, they played an inferior opponent. Man,

1923
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 1: they hammered him. They really did. Yeah, you got to Hey,

1924
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 1: gonna talk about talk more about this, by the way,

1925
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 1: coming up in the third and final hour of the show.

1926
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 1: What's the best part. What do you like the best

1927
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:08,839
Speaker 1: about the Buffalo defense? You can phone in your comments

1928
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: and responses to that. Also, we'll talk about Josh Allen.

1929
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 1: Writer Robert Mays for The Ringer wrote, Josh Allen is

1930
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 1: a quarterback evaluation enigma and the Bill's best playoff hole.

1931
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 1: We'll talk with Robert May's about that when we return.

1932
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 1: Come on back with us One Bill's Live presented by

1933
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 1: Colt of Health Live from the Seneca Studio, Seneca Resorts

1934
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: and Casino. Nothing comes close Hills Radio Network Sports Date.

1935
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 1: Hey from One Bills Drive. The Bills practice is over.

1936
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: They practice outside again today. They're getting set for the

1937
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,639
Speaker 1: Broncos on Sunday. Bills are won three of their last

1938
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,600
Speaker 1: four matchups against the Denver Broncos. Denver has got a

1939
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 1: weird stat I didn't have the heart to ask our

1940
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,600
Speaker 1: guests about this a minute ago, but they've led in

1941
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter in seven of their ten games, and

1942
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 1: they've held on to when just three of those seven.

1943
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: That's kind of crazy Josh Allen. We're going to talk

1944
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 1: him about him at length, coming up with Robert Mays

1945
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: from the Ringer Josh Allen. First five games this year

1946
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 1: before the bye five touchdown passes, seven interceptions, last five

1947
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 1: games since the bye eight touchdown passes, no interceptions. He

1948
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 1: has no picks in his last one hundred sixty three

1949
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 1: pass attempts, second longest active streak in the league. Kirk

1950
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,679
Speaker 1: Cousins of Minnesota has gone one hundred and seventy seven

1951
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: consecutive throws without a pick. Bills Broco's Sunday one o'clock

1952
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 1: at newer Field the broadcast on our flagship radio station

1953
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, WGR Sports Radio five fifty. I'll be

1954
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 1: in the booth with Eric Wood. Salcapacho will be on

1955
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 1: the sidelines. Thursday Night Football Tonight, Colts and Texans coming

1956
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: up that game in Houston tonight NRG Stadium at eight

1957
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: twenty pm. The Colts beat the Texans back in week seven,

1958
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: thirty to twenty three. Indie plays without their top rusher,

1959
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 1: Marlon Mack. He's got a broken hand and he will

1960
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 1: not play. Their next leading rusher at Jordan Wilkins, who

1961
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: has just one hundred sixty five yards this season, NFL

1962
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 1: is upheld. It's one game band for Brown's defensive lineman

1963
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: Larry Ogan Jobi for shoving Mason Rudolph in that game

1964
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 1: last Thur Tonight. His fine, though of more than ten

1965
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, was rescinded. Savers in Boston tonight, they'll take

1966
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 1: down the Bruins seven o'clock. Face up. The road trip

1967
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 1: continues Sunday night when they play at Florida. Savers next

1968
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 1: home game is six days away next Wednesday against Calgary,

1969
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 1: Buffalo and Boston the Bruins tonight coming up at seven o'clock.

1970
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 1: The road team has won six of the last eight

1971
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 1: games between these two teams, Buffalo and Boston over the

1972
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: last two seasons. And the NHL Toronto April He's fired

1973
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: head coach Mike Babcock yesterday. He was fired by Brendan Shannon,

1974
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 1: who hired him back in twenty fifteen. Sheldon Keith, coach

1975
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: at the AHL Toronto Marley's, has been named the club's

1976
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 1: new head coach. And there you go. That's a major

1977
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,600
Speaker 1: up people. That's like a Yankee manager being replaced. I

1978
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 1: know the Leafs have been bad, bad this year, bad

1979
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 1: for a while, but that's a big one. Yeah, well,

1980
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: there you go. I can't worry about those guys, I

1981
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 1: got what are you worried about? What do you worry

1982
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 1: my hockey team, That's what I'm worried. I want my

1983
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:03,600
Speaker 1: guys to play better. You went the other night. You

1984
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 1: will watch tonight. Yeah, I will all flip it back

1985
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 1: and forth between the Texans Colts game and the and

1986
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 1: the Bruins and Sabers. The Texans Colts games good. I mean,

1987
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 1: this is for the first place in that division that's

1988
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 1: AFC South, And this was a playoff game last year

1989
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 1: winner gets in Week seventeen, right, I think I remember

1990
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 1: that right, that it was and then they played in

1991
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs, didn't they? And yeah, or it might be

1992
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 1: it might have been a playoff game that I'm talking about.

1993
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, that was a really big game.

1994
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 1: So these two teams have got a chip on their

1995
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,679
Speaker 1: shoulder for each other and they're going to play tonight.

1996
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 1: This is I read also that this weekend the three

1997
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 1: primetime games. I know I'm bringing up these primetime games

1998
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 1: and I can't I can't remember who they are, but

1999
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: the matchups are. This is the first time first and

2000
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 1: like the Super Bowl era or something, all three primetime

2001
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: matchups Thursday, Sunday, Monday are all between winning teams. All

2002
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 1: three games winning records in both teams. And it's it's

2003
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 1: late in the season to be doing that. So we're

2004
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 1: getting to that point where we're starting to see some

2005
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 1: some really important games with some real consequences that these

2006
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: teams are gonna have a hard time recovering from. Uh,

2007
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 1: you know, you see things like the San Francisco forty

2008
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: nine Ers. You read this, I know that today the

2009
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine Ers have the most difficult three

2010
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 1: games stretch in a week eleven on to end their

2011
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 1: regular season coming up in the league's history. They've got

2012
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 1: three teams on their schedule. The San Francisco forty nine

2013
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 1: Ers do that, all have eight hundred winning percentages the

2014
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 1: next three games. It's it's pretty unbelievable when you think

2015
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 1: about it. Who they've got to go through, It's all

2016
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 1: the season they've got to go through. The San Francisco

2017
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers have to play. Beginning this week, they

2018
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 1: play the Packers, the Ravens, and then the Saints in

2019
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 1: a three game stint. Now they're at home against the Packers,

2020
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 1: and then they go to the Ravens and then on

2021
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:05,680
Speaker 1: the road to the New Orleans Saints. Nobody has ever

2022
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 1: had a three game stretched like that past week eleven

2023
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 1: in the National Football in the history, in the history

2024
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 1: of the of the league, at least in the recent

2025
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 1: history for sure. Can you imagine that you think of

2026
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 1: Bills have a tough stretch coming up? Well, I read

2027
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 1: this stent and I'm having trouble finding it. So the

2028
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 1: Niners remaining schedule is the toughest in the NFL. The

2029
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: Bills are the second or third toughest. But the flip

2030
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 1: from where the Bills were to where they are now,

2031
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 1: it's like a difference of three hundred percentage points of

2032
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 1: winning percentage. It's the second highest flip. So it wasn't

2033
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 1: too many weeks ago we're saying where the Bills have

2034
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 1: a really easy schedule, Well, those games are gone now.

2035
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 1: Browns are one of them, the Dolphins are one of them,

2036
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 1: the Broncos to a certain extent, But coming up, the

2037
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: Bills get the Patriots, the Bills get the Baltimore Ravens,

2038
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 1: the Bills play a winning team of the Dallas Cowboys

2039
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 1: and the five and five Steelers as well, But the

2040
01:36:57,680 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 1: flip from where they were to what they're going into this,

2041
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,679
Speaker 1: This is the this is the meat of the schedule

2042
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:04,639
Speaker 1: coming up here for the Bills. Yes, you gotta be Denver.

2043
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm not looking beyond Denver. But after that Thanksgiving it

2044
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys are okay this year. Baltimore coming here, Baltimore

2045
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 1: is really good. Playing at Pittsburgh's never easy. And then

2046
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 1: wrapping up the road part of the schedule December twenty

2047
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: first set in New England. It's a tough schedule. We

2048
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 1: talked about it at length the other day. Yeah, that's

2049
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 1: it's coming up, I think. But you know what, though,

2050
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 1: it's fun to be sitting at seven and three headed

2051
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 1: into it. Absolutely not a lot better than three and seven.

2052
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 1: We've got the three and seven Bronchos coming in this weekend.

2053
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:36,559
Speaker 1: And it's interesting too because you could see Corey Legion.

2054
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 1: He played for the San Diego Charges for a long time,

2055
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 1: all the way U until this last season and and

2056
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: got an injury. Now he's he was a free agent

2057
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 1: bounce around, was in the Oakland. But he knows these teams,

2058
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 1: the Broncos. He's played against him for eight straight years.

2059
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 1: He knows the Broncos. He probably look, he's looked into

2060
01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 1: their eyes before and went his hand on the ground, right,

2061
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he knows these guys who was interesting to

2062
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 1: hear him and he could tell he had some familiarity

2063
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 1: with some of those guys over there on that side

2064
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 1: of the football. Be fun for him probably to get

2065
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 1: a get back into the mix with those game on special.

2066
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 1: I've been dying to ask Bills fans, good Bills fans,

2067
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 1: even this week, name how many Denver Bronco Name as

2068
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 1: many Denver Broncos as you can. I think you'd have

2069
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,679
Speaker 1: a hard time, don't you. Yeah, to begin this scene,

2070
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,719
Speaker 1: the better players not a household name, right of Philip Lindsay,

2071
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 1: great rookie year, I don't think he's a household name.

2072
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 1: People would say they got a quarterback Allen, right, yeah,

2073
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Allen. And look, I'm the same way. I'm going

2074
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 1: to school this week on the Broncos roster because they

2075
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 1: just don't have a lot of big names. The biggest name,

2076
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: of course, is Deon Dawkins, or I mean is von Miller.

2077
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 1: Von Miller who will probably see a lot of Deon

2078
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 1: Dawkins and Dawkins is talking about Von Miller in the

2079
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 1: locker room yesterday about facing off against von Miller. Here's

2080
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 1: what Deon Dawkins said. I mean they have eleven guys.

2081
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:52,599
Speaker 1: We have eleven guys. I mean, they have Von Miller.

2082
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: He's a great player. Still it's von Miller, and uh

2083
01:38:56,560 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 1: we know it. And uh you know, they're a great

2084
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 1: front and they have a great coach and staff and

2085
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: they played in good balls. Just a good player and

2086
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 1: we just just to just have to be ready for whatever.

2087
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 1: You know, the matchups with other premier kind in this league,

2088
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 1: like Miles Garrett a couple of weeks ago, kind of

2089
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 1: help prepare you for a match up against another guy

2090
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 1: like that. Of course. I mean, the if you really,

2091
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 1: like I want to like think about it, the more

2092
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 1: that you play basically, the more and at your practice,

2093
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 1: and the better players and that you go against, it's

2094
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 1: just it's just basically practicing against elite players. You know,

2095
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Speaker 1: like not saying that that was a practice against the Browns,

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Speaker 1: because it definitely wasn't, but just playing against those caliber

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01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 1: of players just help you in moments. I like this

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01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 1: Deian Dawkins talking about the match up. Let's talk about

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01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,679
Speaker 1: Von millerfru sec and Tyler Columbus joined the slas our

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01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 1: radio guy Denver offensive lineman. He basically and look, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you my experience first watching Broncos this week. I've

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Speaker 1: watched two or three games, now, two and a half games.

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Speaker 1: First part, I started watching the Minnesota game, and I'm thinking, well,

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Speaker 1: there it is, Vikings said von Miller. Double team down

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01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 1: every snap. Look at that. Now they got three blockers

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01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on bon Miller. As the game went along,

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01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 1: they kind of pulled away from that. And then I

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01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 1: watched the second game. You don't necessarily have to double

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Speaker 1: team bon Miller anymore like you used to have to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was a dominant, dominant pass rusher, and

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Speaker 1: Palumbus said. Tyler Palumbus said to his last hour on

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Speaker 1: the show. You know, yeah, he's he's not he's not

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Speaker 1: out of gas, but he's not where he was four

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Speaker 1: or five years ago. That's pretty obvious to see. Yeah,

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01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 1: he's still the guy on that defense, no question. But

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01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 1: he's got one hundred and three sacks in his NFL career.

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01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 1: It takes a while to get there, and that puts

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01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 1: some dings on your chassis. So it's hard for him

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Speaker 1: to play at this you know, it's hard to play

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Speaker 1: at that elite level. And he's not a guy like

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Speaker 1: like my guy Bruce. Bruce was a monster and he

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01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 1: had a chassis that could take some dings, right Uh.

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01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,600
Speaker 1: He did it with speed and power and some and

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01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:04,679
Speaker 1: all that. Von Miller's a speed technique rusher who runs

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01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,639
Speaker 1: out runs guys and has a fast motor and catches

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01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, sack here and there. Just because he don't

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01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 1: stop that, it's it takes its toll after a while.

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Speaker 1: There's just no two ways about it. It's a hard

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01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 1: league to continue to play great at and and let's

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01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 1: face it, he was at such a high level. Yeah,

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01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, nobody can. You know, nobody maintains it

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01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball for that long, particularly

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01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 1: in that up there. And you may be able to

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01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 1: play dB for a long time because you don't take

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01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 1: all those shots like a Dion Sanders or those kind

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01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 1: of guys. But as a pass rusher, man, oh man,

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01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 1: that's a that's a brutal way to make a living

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01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 1: because you know what, to get to the passing downs,

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01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:43,760
Speaker 1: you got to stop the run a little bit, and

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01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 1: that that takes it out of you as well. So

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Speaker 1: von Miller. Yeah, he's been around a while and he's

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01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: not a massive guy, so it I think the physical

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01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 1: punishment kind of tends to catch up with those guys

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Speaker 1: a little faster than other than the big guys. You know. Yeah,

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01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 1: we're just looking it up too, because it feels like

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Speaker 1: von Miller was at his peak when the Broncos were

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01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions, right, and it feels like that was

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01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 1: a long time ago. It was four seasons ago when

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01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 1: the Broncos beat Carolina in the Super Bowl. They beat

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Speaker 1: him twenty four to ten in February of twenty sixteen. Yeah,

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01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,719
Speaker 1: four seasons ago. That's the last time I can honestly

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Speaker 1: say when I thought Von Miller is a difference making

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01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 1: sure fire Hall of Fame guy. Now he's going to

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01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. He's got one hundred sacks. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's the kind of guy who

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01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 1: preoccupies on offenses attention now the way he was four

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01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 1: years ago. I don't feel like that's the case. He's thirty, yeah,

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01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 1: and he's been in the league nine years when he

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Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl. He's twenty six. That's a

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01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 1: long four years and I know we're talking like this.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong with that guy. You'd love to

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01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 1: have him on your team. Everybody would love to have

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Speaker 1: von Miller on their team. He still plays at a

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Speaker 1: high level. But I don't think he's a question. He's

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Speaker 1: closer to the end than he is at the beginning.

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Speaker 1: That's not the player he was when he was twenty six,

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01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 1: and he's not the same player he was when he

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Speaker 1: Haddoomerville on the other side of him as well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so it's like everything we see, these cycles come along,

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Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator, a new head coach, a new

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01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 1: regime they've been through. They had a one and done

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01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:12,760
Speaker 1: head coach last year. I mean, he's been revolving through

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Speaker 1: this leadership as well in the organization. That takes out

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Speaker 1: of a player as well. When they use him differently,

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01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 1: they view him differently. They overuse him or underuse him,

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01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: or they try to get him to do more than

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Speaker 1: what he's good at, or change his game a little

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01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 1: bit because of the scheme they run. There's all of

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Speaker 1: that goes into the mix that affect a guy's number.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a lot of reasons you can point to.

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Speaker 1: Is why he you know, is not the player he

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01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 1: was when he's twenty six, And I think the biggest

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01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 1: reason is the changeover at the top of that in

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff has a lot to do with it.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Buffalo defense a little bit. Get

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on it. What's the best part about the

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01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 1: Bills defense this year? We know they're good, They're real good.

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01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:54,599
Speaker 1: They were really solid against Miami last week, and after

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01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 1: going into this eleventh game of the season, the Bills

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01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 1: have the third best defense yards allowed in the NFL

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Speaker 1: three hundred four yards per game. How about points per game?

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Speaker 1: They tell you they're giving up seventeen points per game.

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Speaker 1: Where does that rank? Can I just take a minute

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Speaker 1: and look, because I'm sure it's pretty good. Oh, they're

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Speaker 1: thirden points allowed per game? Two, so really good defense.

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Speaker 1: What's the best part of this Bills defense? What do

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Speaker 1: you like the most? Got phone lines open, wide open,

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Speaker 1: Give us a call eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: outside Buffalo. It's a toll free call at one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. What do you

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Speaker 1: like the most about this good Buffalo defense? Got tweets

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01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 1: coming in on the tweet sheet brought to you by

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01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills,

2204
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 1: and Steve is ready to dive into the tweet sheet.

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01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,600
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Steve Martin, He says, I've enjoyed watching the

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Speaker 1: maturation of the front seven. I think that this year

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01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:45,040
Speaker 1: they're much more aggressive and when playing fearlessly, they dominate

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01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. I think a little bit of that.

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Speaker 1: The dominance we saw in the Miami game had to

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Speaker 1: do with the coaching staff calling all the pressures that

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Speaker 1: they did. And I think that we talked about this

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Speaker 1: last week when it came out that Sean McDermott was

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Speaker 1: going to say, hey, guys, I want you to play fearless,

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Speaker 1: not only on offense but also on defense. They called

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Speaker 1: some plays that were fearless. You know, they called a

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01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 1: lot of pressure. This has not been a pressure team

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01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 1: and they were sending guys and I think it paid dividends,

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01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 1: no question about it. They also went up tempo offensively.

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01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:15,800
Speaker 1: That played into the fact that they wanted their players

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Speaker 1: to play fearlessly, and I think it showed their players

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Speaker 1: that their coaching staff had some faith in him and

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01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 1: say hey, we'll give you every opportunity to do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go after him, and let's go after him fast,

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01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 1: with a no huddle, all of that stuff. It really

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01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 1: speaks to that whole locker room, that whole coaching staff,

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01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 1: the whole crew that goes down to play these games.

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01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 1: But the coaches, the players, the trainers, the you know,

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01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 1: the equipment staff. They're all in on it. You know

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01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:43,639
Speaker 1: when they when the coaching staff, when Sean mcderham puts

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01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 1: it out there, he makes sure his coaches give his

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01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 1: players that same message and they coach that way. That

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Speaker 1: fearless thing last year, last week, I think it really

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01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 1: went a long way. And I think the coaching staff,

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01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 1: maybe because Sean McDermott told him too, or maybe because

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01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 1: it was just a happenstance that the Miami Dolphins lent

2236
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 1: themselves to this. They were on board with that fearless thing.

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01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 1: That pressure package was something we haven't seen from this team.

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01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 1: Here's a tweet from Big Multi best part about this

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Speaker 1: year's Bill's defense. He says, Tremaine Edmonds has become a

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Speaker 1: beast to do it is awesome. He and Milano are

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01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:17,960
Speaker 1: the best tandem linebackers in the league. Let's go Bills,

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01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 1: and one more from Seth who tweets in Big Nasty

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Speaker 1: ninety seven. Jordan Phillips was an underrated resigning in the

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01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 1: off season. His energy and attitude is infectious and the

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01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 1: best way seems like he's got other d lineman playing

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01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:33,560
Speaker 1: better this season, really freeing up Tremaine and Milano to

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01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 1: fly around and make plays. Did any of us when

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01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 1: the season began and we're talking about the Buffalo defense,

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01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 1: which we expected to be good, did any of us, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about you or I did we think that

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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips would be an important part? I like the

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01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 1: signing they resigned him good, he'll be part of the rotation.

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01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:52,800
Speaker 1: Did you think he'd lead the team in Saxon and

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01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 1: be an important I'm not saying he's the central player

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Speaker 1: on defense, but he's an important part of what they

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01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 1: do defensively. Now, Jordan Phillips, I agree. I think he's

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01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: outplayed expectations, no question, don't you think. I mean that's

2258
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 1: where we're sitting right. He's played way better than we

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01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 1: thought he would would play. Now. He's a good player,

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01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 1: and he showed flashes last year. Came in midway through

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01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 1: the season, got him from Miami and he was the

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01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 1: guy that you know, pumps the crowd. He's got a

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01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 1: lot of energy on the field, but I think his

2264
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 1: production this year has far outweighed our expectations, no question

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01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 1: about it. And that way the energy that he demonstrates

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01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 1: in the look. He was famous and popular last year

2267
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 1: for pumping up the crowd. This year he's popular for

2268
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 1: playing well, playing really well, getting after the passer. He's

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01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 1: been a really good, good, solid edition. And there are

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Speaker 1: those who will tell you, I know they were talking

2271
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:42,600
Speaker 1: about it in Miami last week. Well, of course he was.

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01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 1: You know, he was what a second round pick of

2273
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:46,680
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Of course, this guy can play, and the

2274
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 1: Dolphins just sort of tossed him away. He's a big

2275
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 1: dude too. We have one more from the tweet sheet

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01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read from Doug. He says, the best part

2277
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:55,599
Speaker 1: of the versatility I love when during the broadcast when

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01:47:55,640 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 1: they do the defensive line, you always hear Zoe and

2279
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 1: Jerry say hybrid Passionately, those two guys announced themselves as

2280
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 1: a hybrid player. This defense is so unique. We have

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01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 1: linebackers capable of covering wide receivers and defensive ends that

2282
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 1: can drop back into coverage or pass rush it is.

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01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:17,720
Speaker 1: It is a really good scheme that way they use

2284
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 1: their guys and they ask him to do a lot

2285
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:24,520
Speaker 1: a lot of his You know, it started with those linebackers,

2286
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 1: with Edmonds and Milano. Those guys are. Those guys play

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01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 1: off each other really well and they each bring something

2288
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 1: special to the thing. But I can't get over how

2289
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 1: how much ground Milano and Edmunds cover on any given play.

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01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,680
Speaker 1: You'll see him down the fight. I couldn't believe how

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01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:46,680
Speaker 1: deep Tremaine Edmunds was defended a pass last week on

2292
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:48,679
Speaker 1: Giseki the tied end of the Dolphins. It was twenty

2293
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:50,680
Speaker 1: five yards down the field. And then of course he

2294
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 1: also comes loose and his sacking the quarterback and tackling

2295
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 1: guys for losses. I mean, we got a guy that

2296
01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:58,639
Speaker 1: can cover the field like that. What a huge boost

2297
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 1: it is for your defense and the Bills defense shows it.

2298
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 1: He's making a difference. The guy's really taking a step

2299
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 1: forward as a second year player, and we kind of

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01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 1: expected him to. But here it is. One more from

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01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:12,400
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet from Steve. The best part of the

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Speaker 1: defense is that it's nearly impossible to pick out what

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01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 1: is the best part. I like that, he says. They

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01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 1: all have shined at times. They all work together, they

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01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: have depth that comes in and they do not miss

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01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 1: a beat, and there are no egos. Great problem to have,

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01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:27,639
Speaker 1: a good point to make. We'll take a break. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about Josh Allen when we come back. Come on

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Speaker 1: back with us One Bill's Live, presented by Kalaida Health

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Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back to the show. John Murphy, Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: We're here until three o'clock on this Thursday. The Bills

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01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:54,280
Speaker 1: practice is over. Getting set to play Denver, getting set

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Speaker 1: for starting number twenty two in his NFL career. For

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Speaker 1: John Allen. We're gonna talk about Josh for the next

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01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:03,559
Speaker 1: few minutes. The guy who is an accomplished writer, big

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01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 1: is a popular writer in our control room to tell

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01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:08,600
Speaker 1: me how great the podcast is, how great the writing is.

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01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:10,759
Speaker 1: And we know that he writes for The Ringer staff

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01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 1: writer for The Ringer, the host of The Ringer NFL

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01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 1: Show podcast. Happy to have Robert May's on the line

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01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 1: with this. Robert, you got a ton of fans in

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01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 1: our control room here. They were just telling me, how

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01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 1: great you work. Kind of that just my girlfriend is

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01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:22,920
Speaker 1: here smirking on the couch because you heard what you

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01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 1: were saying. Nice to me, but I didn't say it

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01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 1: was the guy's in the other room, and I agree

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01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:30,479
Speaker 1: with him, though, great work and in great work this week,

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01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:33,679
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, here's the title, Josh Allen is a quarterback

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01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:38,679
Speaker 1: evaluation enigma and the Bill's best playoff hope question why

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01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 1: what makes him a quarterback evaluation enigma? I just think

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01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 1: that when he came into the league, you know, you

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01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 1: had an opinion of what Josh Allen was like everyone did.

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01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 1: I think whatever your opinion was, it probably spoke a

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01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 1: lot about the way that you think about quarterback play,

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01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:56,759
Speaker 1: because if you look at his stats coming out of Wyoming,

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01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:59,240
Speaker 1: there's just not a lot to hang your hat on.

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01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 1: Is Complete percentage is very poor. I think a lot

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01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 1: of people that watched him thought he had some accuracy issues.

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01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 1: Even if he'll can test that, he'said the NFL teams

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01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 1: weren't quite as worried about it. So if you're looking

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01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:13,759
Speaker 1: at some of the things that are typically predictlar quarterback success,

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01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:17,680
Speaker 1: completion percentage, accuracy or two of those things, So he

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01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 1: was really just a guy that was a lot of

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01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 1: tools and a lot of projection, and you can see

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01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 1: something in there if you're certain teams, but I assume

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01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:27,240
Speaker 1: other teams are a little bit scared off. So when

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01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 1: you compare his production, his numbers to guys like Baker Mayfield,

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01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:33,639
Speaker 1: everyone in his draft class, there was a pretty big gap.

2350
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 1: So it really is kind of an eye beholder thing

2351
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:38,680
Speaker 1: when it comes to quarterbacks sometimes, and to see how

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01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:41,680
Speaker 1: much better he's gotten in some of those areas is

2353
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 1: extremely impressive. Yeah, I think you know Enigma obviously mean

2354
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 1: he's tough to figure out, tough to get your arms around,

2355
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,160
Speaker 1: and you know, we've determined here. I won't speak for

2356
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 1: Steve here, but I've figured out over the year and

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01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 1: a half the Josh has been here. Those who did

2358
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:57,719
Speaker 1: not I'm talking about media mostly here, Those both locally

2359
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 1: and nationally who did not have him figured out to

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01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 1: be a pretty good NFL quarterback kind of holding against

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01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 1: him now. Sometimes you know what I mean, They don't

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01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:07,760
Speaker 1: give him the credit for what he's done, and he

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01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:09,840
Speaker 1: hasn't done a ton yet, but I think he's certainly

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01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 1: trending up. Where did you point out in your article

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01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:14,599
Speaker 1: I think people hold grudge you sometime, and I think

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01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 1: that's part of the enigma things with Josh Allen. What

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01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 1: do you think? I think so too. I just think

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01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 1: that when you're an analyst, and I do this all

2369
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 1: the time, when you get out on a limb and

2370
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:26,800
Speaker 1: you want to make a point, you want to stand

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01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 1: by something, I think that you want it to be right.

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01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 1: You want that thing to be right. I mean, that's

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01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 1: kind of the thing you traffic in. So if you've

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01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 1: really come out hard with a certain stance, I think

2375
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:38,680
Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to soften that stance. And I was

2376
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 1: not a Josh Allen fam coming out of the draft.

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01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 1: I just felt like all of those issues that we

2378
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:45,640
Speaker 1: talked about were things that have concerned me. And to

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01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 1: watch how much better he's gotten in the areas where

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01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 1: he struggled most last year, I've been extremely impressed. I

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01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:53,560
Speaker 1: was extremely impressed when I sat with him. You know,

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01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 1: he was just his personality was not necessarily what I

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01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 1: would have envisioned. Maybe I don't know what I had pictured,

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01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 1: but he just is a guy that clearly is very

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01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 1: in tune with where he wants to go, and he's

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01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:06,080
Speaker 1: very in tune with where he is, and he's trying

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01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:09,840
Speaker 1: to make those two things coincide. He's trying to reconcile

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01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:11,600
Speaker 1: those two things, and I think he's going about it

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01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:13,559
Speaker 1: the right way. You know. One of the things you said, Robert,

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01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:15,800
Speaker 1: and you sat down with him or spoke with him,

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01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:18,080
Speaker 1: and you've got an idea of what his mindset is

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01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 1: about himself, and he's You've paid a couple of good

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01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 1: points and some interesting things about how critical he is

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01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 1: of himself, willing to take the blame for some of

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01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,320
Speaker 1: his mistakes and also honestly look at himself. A lot

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01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 1: of us hesitate to do that because we don't like

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01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 1: what we're going to see, but he seems to be

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01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:37,200
Speaker 1: very willing to criticize himself honestly and work on what

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01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 1: he's not good at. Absolutely, there was a level of

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01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 1: self awareness and insightfulness from him that really kind of

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01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 1: blew me away. For someone that young, for someone that talented,

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01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 1: and again for him to kind of see, all right,

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01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 1: this is what I am and these are the best quarterbacks.

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01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 1: How can I be Aaron Rodgers? And to have a

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01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 1: tangible plan to get there is so impressive to me.

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01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 1: You know, we talked a lot about some of the

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01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 1: things that you worked on and drilled down on some

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01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:04,439
Speaker 1: of them with decision making, which I think is a

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01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:07,280
Speaker 1: mental thing that comes with maturity. And he's shown some

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01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:10,519
Speaker 1: growth there and made some games, but just the mechanical

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01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:12,120
Speaker 1: elements of it and some of the things, it's like,

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01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 1: all right, I wanted what the road did you want

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01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:17,120
Speaker 1: to get better at specifically, and he walks me through

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01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:19,879
Speaker 1: it and he has answers to so many of these questions.

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01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 1: But I think that shows someone who's really taken a

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01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 1: lot of time to think about it. Robert May's our guest.

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01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 1: He is a staff writer for The Ring. He wrote

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01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 1: a long piece on Josh Allen after spending time up

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01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:32,320
Speaker 1: here with Josh and Buffalo. You refer to Josh, and

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01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 1: I like this description coming out in the draft. You

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01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:38,200
Speaker 1: referred to him as a toolsz prospect t O O

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01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 1: L S Y. He does have tools. And I made

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01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 1: this point with on our show here Monday after the

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01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 1: Miami win. How you know he's got room to improve,

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01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 1: He's got things he's got to do, and you know

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01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 1: areas of improvement needed. But the one thing that Josh

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01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 1: has always had are innate native tools that you unleash

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01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:01,480
Speaker 1: sometimes like against the Miami Dolphins last week. Big strong arm,

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01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 1: a big strong athlete. That really is kind of to

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01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 1: me at the heart of what Josh Allen is all about.

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01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 1: What do you think absolutely, I mean, that's undeniable. I mean,

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01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 1: you watch him play, you look at the testing numbers.

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01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who is about athletic,

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01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 1: as athletic as quarterbacks come. When you consider the physicality,

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01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 1: the strength, the size, and that arm, I mean, he's

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01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:23,040
Speaker 1: it's unlike any in leite. I mean, he has as

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01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 1: strong or stronger of an arm as pretty much anybody

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01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:27,920
Speaker 1: playing quarterback. Right now, I think Mahome is probably in

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01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:31,280
Speaker 1: that conversation, but he's neck and neck and that's kind

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01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 1: of what we talked about. But all right, you have

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01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 1: these tools, you have this toolbox, how does that how

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01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 1: do you practically play? How do you start to tailor

2443
01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 1: those tools to become a refined quarterback? And he told

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01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:45,320
Speaker 1: me that essentially, for years, all he did was to

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01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:47,080
Speaker 1: throw the ball as hard as he could because he

2446
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:49,560
Speaker 1: could throw it really hard, and that's just not how

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01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 1: you played the position. And when he compared to his

2448
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 1: golf skiing, he's saying, when you start playing golf. He

2449
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 1: just kind of grip it and you rip it. You

2450
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,080
Speaker 1: don't know anything different. But as you learn how to

2451
01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:00,160
Speaker 1: shape your shots, it's the same way you how to

2452
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 1: learn how to shape your throws. You take something off

2453
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 1: of it, you work on the actual nuts and bolts

2454
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 1: of the motion that gets you to that point. And

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01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:10,240
Speaker 1: it does seem like he's really honed in on it,

2456
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 1: and it does seem like he's made some strides. Well, Robert,

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01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 1: it's obviously you've you've kind of watched his progression from

2458
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 1: the day he was drafted and before that till now

2459
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 1: where we've seen some improvement. Now he's got you know,

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01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 1: his last five games or so, or last six games,

2461
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 1: he's got eight touchdowns, zero interceptions. What do you think

2462
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 1: we've seen some improvement? And it's easy without watching film

2463
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:33,920
Speaker 1: or dissecting it, but what do you think the next

2464
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:36,480
Speaker 1: step is for him? That maybe the average fan just

2465
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:39,600
Speaker 1: watching Josh Allen, what will be the next step where

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01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 1: you say, oh, that's different, that's better. What's that going

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01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 1: to look like? It's interesting because it's actually something he

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01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 1: did well last year. The area where he struggled the

2469
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 1: most of this season is throwing the ball down the field.

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01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 1: They've really had a hard time hitting deep throws this season,

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01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:55,000
Speaker 1: and that's where you as at his best as a

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01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:59,040
Speaker 1: rook So the question with him moving forward is is

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01:56:59,200 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 1: these steps for he's taken in the intermediate areas where

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01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:04,800
Speaker 1: he's completing sixty four point seven percent of his passes

2475
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:07,680
Speaker 1: compared to forty eight percent last year, is that the

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01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 1: sign of progress or is that a blip? If the

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01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 1: answer is the former, if he's actually getting better at

2478
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:16,600
Speaker 1: that and he's become a more accurate passer from ten

2479
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:19,600
Speaker 1: to twenty yards, now, can he add the deep ball

2480
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 1: accuracy to it? And I think some of it. He

2481
01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 1: and I talked about this, and he has a meek

2482
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:26,400
Speaker 1: weekly meeting with mcdermom if they meet every single Monday,

2483
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 1: And the message from Sean McDermot, which is not surprising,

2484
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 1: is don't turn the ball up. And that's what you

2485
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 1: expect from a defensive minor head coach. And I think

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01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 1: that's in the back of his mind when he's throwing

2487
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 1: some of these deep passes. I think he'd rather chuck

2488
01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 1: it five yards over John Brown's head than underthrown by

2489
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:43,760
Speaker 1: two yards and out of the air SPT. So can

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01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 1: he kind of calibrate this where the risk taking goes

2491
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 1: up a little bit and he still is not putting

2492
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:53,120
Speaker 1: the ball at harms away that often. And if will

2493
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 1: that help the deep ball accuracy, because if he can

2494
01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:59,720
Speaker 1: start hitting some explosive plays down the field, combined with

2495
01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:01,880
Speaker 1: how he's placing the ball in other areas right now,

2496
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 1: I think he could be legitimentary scary. Reading your post

2497
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:07,360
Speaker 1: to Robert, I got the sense to you think that

2498
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:10,120
Speaker 1: the deep ball will come right even this late end

2499
01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 1: of the season. Used to think it will happen for Josh.

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01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if it will. You know, I don't.

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01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:16,320
Speaker 1: This was more just kind of laying out the things

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01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 1: he was saying, the things I necessarily believe, and he

2503
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 1: thinks it will come. And the comparison that we talked

2504
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:23,960
Speaker 1: about that made a lot of sense to me is,

2505
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, when you start hitting the ball straight when

2506
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:28,720
Speaker 1: you're playing golf, the length will eventually come. It's more

2507
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 1: a lot hitting it straight first, and that's where he's at.

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01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:34,520
Speaker 1: He's in the hitting it straight kind of trajectory of

2509
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:37,880
Speaker 1: his quarterbacking game. And if he can add the length

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01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 1: to that, then I think it could be special because

2511
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:42,600
Speaker 1: he clearly has the arm for it. But it's not

2512
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 1: about how far you can throw. It's about working on

2513
01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 1: the arc and the trajectory. And Brian's Abel told me

2514
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 1: that this makes a ton of sense to me. When

2515
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:52,920
Speaker 1: you're working with new receivers, it's hard to get that

2516
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 1: timing down, especially someone that's as fast as John Brown.

2517
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 1: You don't know necessarily the pace and the arc and

2518
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:01,120
Speaker 1: everything you should put on those walls. It's almost a

2519
01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:03,880
Speaker 1: time on task thing, and he just hasn't had that

2520
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:07,120
Speaker 1: much time on task. And especially since I talked to them,

2521
01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he was sixteen starts into his career. This

2522
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 1: isn't a month ago. So this is a young quarterback

2523
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 1: still that's working with a lot of new receivers. It's

2524
01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 1: completely reasonable to think that he can take strides forward

2525
01:59:18,640 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 1: within this offense with this group. Even by the end

2526
01:59:21,120 --> 01:59:24,400
Speaker 1: of this year. With Robert May's staff writer for The Ringer,

2527
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:27,000
Speaker 1: he wrote a post that just went up Josh Allen

2528
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:30,400
Speaker 1: a quarterback evaluation Enigma and the Bill's best playoff Hope.

2529
01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:32,840
Speaker 1: And I also like in the article, Robert, how you

2530
01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 1: talk about the role the Buffalo coaching stet Brian day

2531
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 1: Ball in particular has played. You said their goal going

2532
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:41,680
Speaker 1: into the year was raining in Josh Allen's ambition without

2533
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:44,520
Speaker 1: discouraging it. I think that continues this deep end of

2534
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:47,360
Speaker 1: the season, don't you. Absolutely. And I think that that

2535
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:51,360
Speaker 1: comes from McDermott. Down is just the decision making process.

2536
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 1: And I think that Brandon Bean also believes that, you know,

2537
01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:55,800
Speaker 1: him not putting the ball in harm's away, him not

2538
01:59:56,120 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 1: putting himself in harm's way. It just steps forward you

2539
01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:02,080
Speaker 1: take as a quarterback. I think that for the most part,

2540
02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:05,240
Speaker 1: he's a smart, mature twenty three. But it's about the

2541
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:08,280
Speaker 1: time you played the game. It's about trusting the scheme,

2542
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:11,920
Speaker 1: trusting your teammates. You know. He told me that there

2543
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:13,480
Speaker 1: was a throw he made to Pat de Marco in

2544
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:16,280
Speaker 1: the Dolphins game in Week five. I believe there's a

2545
02:00:16,280 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 1: little two yard dump off on second and twenty. It

2546
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:20,240
Speaker 1: went for twenty seven, And they told me is that

2547
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:22,120
Speaker 1: I would have read that top down a year ago.

2548
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 1: I would have tried to get that chunk on second

2549
02:00:24,160 --> 02:00:26,480
Speaker 1: and twenty. I never would even got to him by

2550
02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:29,040
Speaker 1: the time he was still open that the guy that

2551
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 1: had been picked would have been back. And I'm just

2552
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:33,440
Speaker 1: not playing that way anymore. If we get to seven

2553
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:36,120
Speaker 1: yards on second and twenty, Let's get seven yards. So

2554
02:00:36,440 --> 02:00:39,280
Speaker 1: I like the fact that he's just again his ambition

2555
02:00:39,520 --> 02:00:42,360
Speaker 1: is not outweighing his practicality, and I think that's a

2556
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:45,040
Speaker 1: big step forward. Well, we knew when Josh came out

2557
02:00:45,160 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 1: he was a polarizing figure because he had all the weapons,

2558
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:49,160
Speaker 1: all the twos, but he had a long way to go.

2559
02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:51,480
Speaker 1: Did he get lucky or did he get drafted by

2560
02:00:51,480 --> 02:00:53,960
Speaker 1: the right organization that they are going to give him

2561
02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 1: enough time to be able to grow into being a

2562
02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:02,360
Speaker 1: good corp. Even if he doesn't become the greatest quarterback

2563
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:06,320
Speaker 1: in the league, he does become a solid quality starter.

2564
02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:10,400
Speaker 1: It's going to take him sometimes, even even his even

2565
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:14,200
Speaker 1: his supporters would say it's going to take him some

2566
02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:17,400
Speaker 1: time to get there. But my point is, did he

2567
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:19,560
Speaker 1: get drafted by the right club at the right times

2568
02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:22,520
Speaker 1: so that there's not that impatience Because we've seen Patrick

2569
02:01:22,600 --> 02:01:26,040
Speaker 1: Mahomes do it fast, We've seen Lamar Jackson do it

2570
02:01:26,120 --> 02:01:28,000
Speaker 1: in a fast way. And if Josh Allen is a

2571
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:29,600
Speaker 1: kind of guy who's going to take a year or two,

2572
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 1: did he get drafted by the right spot to give

2573
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:34,440
Speaker 1: him enough time to develop? I think he probably got

2574
02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:36,280
Speaker 1: thrown through the Wolves last year a little sooner than

2575
02:01:36,280 --> 02:01:39,200
Speaker 1: they would have liked, considering the supporting cast they had,

2576
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:41,040
Speaker 1: and this was a team that really kind of had

2577
02:01:41,080 --> 02:01:42,720
Speaker 1: to tear it down when you're looking at the salary

2578
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:45,160
Speaker 1: cap when Brandon bed took over. So to do that,

2579
02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:46,840
Speaker 1: you really have to purge a lot of players, and

2580
02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:49,760
Speaker 1: their offensive talent last season was wanting. I mean, it

2581
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:51,640
Speaker 1: was one of the worst groups in the NFL. That's

2582
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:54,320
Speaker 1: why they had a complete overhaul this year. So it

2583
02:01:54,440 --> 02:01:56,640
Speaker 1: might be a little bit faster than they would have liked.

2584
02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:59,200
Speaker 1: But I still think that right now, the plan is good.

2585
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:01,280
Speaker 1: I've been record, I talk to you guys about it.

2586
02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:03,520
Speaker 1: I think the plan they had this offseason and the

2587
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:05,640
Speaker 1: one they have going forward about how they're building this

2588
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:09,720
Speaker 1: roster is incredibly smart and it's well timed. You know,

2589
02:02:09,760 --> 02:02:11,760
Speaker 1: this is a group that signed a lot of contracts

2590
02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:15,360
Speaker 1: last year, but they weren't debilitating contracts. They are about

2591
02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:17,160
Speaker 1: twenty million cap space right now, I want to say,

2592
02:02:17,200 --> 02:02:20,200
Speaker 1: and they're projected to have sixties. So with some carryover,

2593
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:22,320
Speaker 1: you could see this team having seventy five million dollars

2594
02:02:22,720 --> 02:02:25,000
Speaker 1: in salary cap space next season to kind of put

2595
02:02:25,080 --> 02:02:27,480
Speaker 1: the finishing touches on this team. You know, one or

2596
02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:30,000
Speaker 1: two more playmakers on defense in the draft and free agency.

2597
02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:32,520
Speaker 1: Go get one more pass catcher in one of those.

2598
02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:35,760
Speaker 1: So I think that they really have. It may have

2599
02:02:35,840 --> 02:02:39,280
Speaker 1: been rough last year the circumstances he was in, but

2600
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:41,919
Speaker 1: I think they made huge strides this year by completely

2601
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:45,680
Speaker 1: replushing the offensive line, going getting Beasley and Brown. But

2602
02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:48,000
Speaker 1: there's still one more step to take. But I do

2603
02:02:48,160 --> 02:02:51,200
Speaker 1: have plenty of faith in both the offensive coaching staff

2604
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:53,720
Speaker 1: and the front office to give him the time, the

2605
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:56,360
Speaker 1: resources everything succeed. I really do. Right, this is the

2606
02:02:56,440 --> 02:02:58,520
Speaker 1: last question I have on your Josh Allen Peace and

2607
02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:00,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't in the piece, but I'm going to ask

2608
02:03:00,800 --> 02:03:03,000
Speaker 1: you anyway, what's the ceiling for Josh? How good do

2609
02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 1: you think he might be? I think that's so hard

2610
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:08,000
Speaker 1: to say. I think he could be a quality starter

2611
02:03:08,120 --> 02:03:10,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I think that that's all you

2612
02:03:10,480 --> 02:03:13,040
Speaker 1: could really hope for when you consider how bad their

2613
02:03:13,120 --> 02:03:16,040
Speaker 1: passing offense was last year. If it weren't for the Cardinals,

2614
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:18,840
Speaker 1: they would have been a historically bad passing offense last season,

2615
02:03:19,120 --> 02:03:22,560
Speaker 1: and they were about thirty three percent worse than league average.

2616
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:25,200
Speaker 1: Accords the Football Outsiders. I want to say that's pretty brutal.

2617
02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:28,360
Speaker 1: This year, it's three percent worse. You know, they're still

2618
02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:31,880
Speaker 1: not great, but that's massive strides. It's more than you

2619
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:34,560
Speaker 1: could have ever hoped for in a single season. Really,

2620
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:38,080
Speaker 1: So is that linear? Is that something that can continue

2621
02:03:38,160 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 1: next season? I don't think it's gonna be thirty percent

2622
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:42,960
Speaker 1: again because that would make them the Chiefs. But I

2623
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:45,480
Speaker 1: do think that he can be a good quarterback in

2624
02:03:45,560 --> 02:03:48,720
Speaker 1: the NFL and for them, almost more importantly, I think

2625
02:03:48,760 --> 02:03:51,240
Speaker 1: he can be an accurate quarterback in the NFL to

2626
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:53,520
Speaker 1: certain levels of the field. And that's not something I

2627
02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:56,640
Speaker 1: would have even said a year ago. Thank you, Robert. Hey,

2628
02:03:56,720 --> 02:03:59,040
Speaker 1: I can I ask you one more question before I

2629
02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:01,960
Speaker 1: let you go. You and our buddy Kevin Clark on

2630
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:06,320
Speaker 1: your podcast looked at Minnesota's win over Denver last Sunday. Right,

2631
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:09,440
Speaker 1: you talked about that from the standpoint of the Minnesota comeback,

2632
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:11,440
Speaker 1: But what can you tell us about the Denver Broncos

2633
02:04:11,640 --> 02:04:15,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo Buffalo's opponent this week. I think that they're a

2634
02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:17,240
Speaker 1: defense that you always have to be concerned about it.

2635
02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:19,280
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that they even slow down that

2636
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:22,040
Speaker 1: Minnesota offense a little bit in the first half speaks

2637
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 1: to what the Fancio can do. Von Moller is still

2638
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:27,440
Speaker 1: over there. I still think they have an underrated secondary.

2639
02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:29,560
Speaker 1: So Josh, you's going to have a handful this week.

2640
02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team that, if you're a

2641
02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:34,960
Speaker 1: real playoff contender like the Bills probably fancy themselves right now.

2642
02:04:35,400 --> 02:04:37,280
Speaker 1: You have to win this game, and I think it's

2643
02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:39,720
Speaker 1: going to be more problematic than people do just because

2644
02:04:39,760 --> 02:04:41,560
Speaker 1: that defense is going to give them some headaches in

2645
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:43,680
Speaker 1: certain situations. Yeah, I agree with you. And while I

2646
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:47,640
Speaker 1: got you one more about the podcast pass interference challenge, nonsense,

2647
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:50,320
Speaker 1: you guys call it. There's no point in any coach

2648
02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 1: wasting the time out anymore to try to overturn a

2649
02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:55,160
Speaker 1: past interference call. Is there? How badly they've botched this

2650
02:04:55,280 --> 02:04:58,440
Speaker 1: is incredible. I think about how long we've watched football

2651
02:04:58,720 --> 02:05:01,400
Speaker 1: and how many how many times you well, that's past interference,

2652
02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:03,160
Speaker 1: and when they don't call it, you just move on

2653
02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:06,600
Speaker 1: by putting more eyeballs on this with no mechanism to

2654
02:05:06,640 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 1: actually get these overturned. It's just one more thing that

2655
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:11,840
Speaker 1: the league is screwed up in the hilarious fashion. I

2656
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:14,800
Speaker 1: just can't understand any of this. Sometimes no mechanism and

2657
02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:18,560
Speaker 1: really no desire to overturn thement appears rightly exactly, and

2658
02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:20,720
Speaker 1: if the mechanism is now there, but now it's just

2659
02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:23,400
Speaker 1: impossible to do it. So why does the rule even exist?

2660
02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:28,040
Speaker 1: It's really more slow low replays that show your officials

2661
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:32,320
Speaker 1: screwing up congratuations on the screwed day. It's really infuriating

2662
02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:36,120
Speaker 1: because now, for the first time in my memory, it

2663
02:05:36,240 --> 02:05:38,440
Speaker 1: looks as though they don't want to get it right

2664
02:05:38,480 --> 02:05:40,960
Speaker 1: and they're not interested in getting it right. And that,

2665
02:05:41,240 --> 02:05:43,960
Speaker 1: to me is the disturbing part. It's not even that's

2666
02:05:44,200 --> 02:05:46,000
Speaker 1: that's the things to me, it's not about getting it right.

2667
02:05:46,200 --> 02:05:48,560
Speaker 1: They don't care about getting it right. They care about

2668
02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:51,680
Speaker 1: having it It's almost like a doomsday scenario. That's why

2669
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:56,080
Speaker 1: the rule exists. It's to prevent something like the New

2670
02:05:56,160 --> 02:05:59,400
Speaker 1: Saints Ram situation from happening again. But if that's the reason,

2671
02:06:00,200 --> 02:06:01,920
Speaker 1: why not just make it the last two minutes of

2672
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:04,040
Speaker 1: the game. Wait, if that's what you're trying to do,

2673
02:06:04,120 --> 02:06:06,840
Speaker 1: if you're trying to prevent a team from losing because

2674
02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:10,080
Speaker 1: of past interference, why would you institute the rule this way?

2675
02:06:10,600 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 1: It just makes no sense whatsoever. Good point, Robert, Thank

2676
02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:15,160
Speaker 1: you for the sank, for sticking with us today. We

2677
02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:18,720
Speaker 1: appreciate it anytime. Robert May's from The Ringer. He's a

2678
02:06:18,720 --> 02:06:21,200
Speaker 1: staff writer at The Ringer, the host of the NFL

2679
02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:23,760
Speaker 1: The Ringer NFL Show, And you gotta read this post.

2680
02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:26,120
Speaker 1: It's up on the Ringer right now. Josh Allen is

2681
02:06:26,160 --> 02:06:30,160
Speaker 1: a quarterback evaluation enigma and the Bill's Best Playoff Hope.

2682
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:32,520
Speaker 1: We didn't get into that second part, the Bill's Best

2683
02:06:32,520 --> 02:06:34,680
Speaker 1: Playoff Hope. I think I know what he means there, right,

2684
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:37,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Josh gotta play well if they're gonna make

2685
02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:40,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But wouldn't we say it's defense that's carrying

2686
02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:42,480
Speaker 1: this team to the playoffs if they go. I don't know.

2687
02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:44,320
Speaker 1: I would say the defense is good enough. I think

2688
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:47,880
Speaker 1: Josh is the hopeful part. You know, the defense is

2689
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:50,400
Speaker 1: dependable that when you get outside of the fact that

2690
02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:52,760
Speaker 1: you can't depend on it, it's the Josh has got

2691
02:06:52,840 --> 02:06:54,840
Speaker 1: to be the one that steps forward, I think, right, yeah,

2692
02:06:54,920 --> 02:06:56,960
Speaker 1: if you're gonna split hairs. What do you think of

2693
02:06:57,040 --> 02:07:00,400
Speaker 1: Robert's response when I asked about ceiling and he said quality,

2694
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:02,680
Speaker 1: You can be a quality NFL quarterback. I have higher

2695
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:05,480
Speaker 1: hopes for Josh and that slightly higher well, I do too.

2696
02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:09,240
Speaker 1: I there is no ceiling. But I think, and I

2697
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:11,960
Speaker 1: think the fun part about Josh Allen is the fact

2698
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:14,640
Speaker 1: that we all know that it's you know, it's between

2699
02:07:14,720 --> 02:07:17,000
Speaker 1: his ears. You know, that's where he's gonna That's where

2700
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:19,360
Speaker 1: he's kind of gonna become an elite quarterback. That's what

2701
02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean. That's he's got the more than enough tools

2702
02:07:22,720 --> 02:07:25,680
Speaker 1: to be an elite quarterback. Can he be a quarterback

2703
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:29,080
Speaker 1: that takes you to a championship? Certainly physically, you know

2704
02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:32,840
Speaker 1: that's gonna be it. I think the real, the real

2705
02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:35,840
Speaker 1: question and the real fun quest of this whole thing

2706
02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:39,800
Speaker 1: watching Josh Allen is how much this experience this year

2707
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:42,280
Speaker 1: and last year and going forward is gonna help him

2708
02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:44,840
Speaker 1: get better? And when we're gonna start seeing him act

2709
02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:47,240
Speaker 1: like a guy, Oh I've seen this before, let's go

2710
02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:49,240
Speaker 1: Because we aren't there yet. You know, there's not that

2711
02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:51,240
Speaker 1: many things where you get the idea where he's saying, oh,

2712
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:53,000
Speaker 1: I know this, I'm gonna watch this, you know that

2713
02:07:53,120 --> 02:07:56,400
Speaker 1: kind of thing. I think we can get there with Josh,

2714
02:07:56,560 --> 02:07:59,000
Speaker 1: and when he does, then he becomes really dangerous. Yeah,

2715
02:07:59,040 --> 02:08:01,880
Speaker 1: pretty cool. It's definitely worth reading. Robert Many's posting the

2716
02:08:01,960 --> 02:08:04,400
Speaker 1: ringer about Josh Allen Stephen and I coming back. One

2717
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Speaker 1: What have we learned from today's show? Brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Skyworks, the official equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Palumbus joined US Today radio host in Denver, former

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman for the Denver Broncos. We asked him about

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Speaker 1: Broncos linebacker Von Miller, where he is in his career,

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Speaker 1: how does he look right now? Here's what Tyler Palumbus said.

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Speaker 1: Von Miller is a great defensive player, but he's no

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Speaker 1: longer Von Miller that you remember, You know? Is he

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Speaker 1: a superstar this year? He's not playing like it. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: Bond's a great friend of mine, He's a teammate of

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Speaker 1: mine on the Super Bowl team. Respect his game, and hecked,

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Speaker 1: five sacks is nothing to laugh at. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys in this league that love to have five sacks.

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Speaker 1: But Bond's been very quiet. His energy level has been

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Speaker 1: a little bit weird when you listen to depressors. When

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Speaker 1: you listen to him talk to the media, he sounds

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Speaker 1: depressed every single week. You can tell that it's wearing

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Speaker 1: on him. This is the first time in his entire

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Speaker 1: career in which he's ever been questioned, and he is

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Speaker 1: getting questioned. Oftened out here. Interesting thoughts on von Miller.

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Speaker 1: Also today, Corey Legit joined US Bill's defensive linement. He

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Speaker 1: got one of the bills seven sacks against Ryan Fitzpatrick

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Speaker 1: last Sunday, and Corey Legit talked about how important that

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Speaker 1: was to him. For me, I mean, it was a

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Speaker 1: very emotional one, you know, because the ups and downs

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Speaker 1: and the injury that I suffered. Most guys don't come

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Speaker 1: back from you know, big the coups, and one of

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Speaker 1: my good friend Nate Palmer, you know, he retired at

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Speaker 1: the both of them retired after getting his injury. And

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Speaker 1: for me to come back and you know, to go

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Speaker 1: out there and play, I'm I'm playing for those guys

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Speaker 1: and also for myself because I wasn't gonna let this

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Speaker 1: injury defeat me. So to get that sack, it was very,

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Speaker 1: very very important for the NFL. Gray kind of weird

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Speaker 1: you did. I never thought of that, Steven. I mean,

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Speaker 1: in a game with the Bill sack Fitzpatrick seven times

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Speaker 1: and you think, oh, there's another one. There's another one.

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Speaker 1: And at the time, who knew that it was that

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Speaker 1: critical and important to Carlia Legia. That's after coming back

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Speaker 1: from that injury. It's the first time he got a

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Speaker 1: chance to make a play like that and meant something

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Speaker 1: to him. We had, you know. Also, as we come

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Speaker 1: to the close of the show here, this just came across.

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Speaker 1: We all saw the brawl last week on Thursday night football.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't Thursday Night football, right, So the Cleveland Browns and

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Miles Garrett has appealed his suspension and

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Speaker 1: the NFL has upheld that suspension. He's gonna he continues

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Speaker 1: to be suspended indefinitely. On the other hand, the other guy,

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Speaker 1: Maurice Pouncey, the guy who came in late, actually kicked

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Speaker 1: him and threw some punches after he had swung and

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Speaker 1: hit Mason Rudolph with his own helmet. His suspension, Maurice

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Speaker 1: pound suspension has been lowered from three to two games.

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Speaker 1: So that continues to evolve as we speak. But that

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Speaker 1: just came down Morris Palacy from three to two games

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Speaker 1: suspension and Mark Miles Garrett is still suspended indefinitely. You wonder, um,

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Speaker 1: well you think Garrett, especially with so much at tension on,

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Speaker 1: that had virtually no chance of getting his appeals shortened

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Speaker 1: or change. Should you imagine? You wonder what goes into

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Speaker 1: that argument? Though, Hey, I want this change because what

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Speaker 1: because I didn't I didn't well, he connected with the helmet.

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Speaker 1: What do you argue when you try to get that

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Speaker 1: suspension because he kicked me because he was fighting me too,

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Speaker 1: because yeah, I mean I didn't do anything to start

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Speaker 1: the fight. Uh, he came at me. I was holding

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Speaker 1: his helmet. You know, I don't know what you're arguing, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know either. There's yeah, what hope do you have?

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Speaker 1: I still guess you do it? Or do you or doesn't?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't get lowered if you don't you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you say know what? Too many mitigating circumstances. Right,

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Speaker 1: if you say you know what, I'm not even gonna

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Speaker 1: appeal it. You're right, I did it, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to do it and they say okay, but after the

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Speaker 1: offseason you can come back and do the OTAs and

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Speaker 1: then mini camp and even play when the season begins.

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Speaker 1: This way, if you appeal it, they're like going, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're out for the first four games next year. Two

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Speaker 1: pal right, I mean there's that there's that thing too.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't make a good arbitrator, real

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Speaker 1: you would not. Probably gonna be a quiet Tuesday in

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Speaker 1: February when they let us know about that indefinite suspension.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it'll be a quiet two less quiet, Yeah, it'll

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Speaker 1: be less quiet. That happened. Hey, the injury report today.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things of note for the Bills. Jerry

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Speaker 1: Hughes missed a second consecutive day with his growing issue. Now.

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Speaker 1: He had the growing late last week and managed to

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Speaker 1: play played a full a full schedule last week in Miami,

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Speaker 1: but now he's out two days this week with his

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Speaker 1: growing issue issue. Did not participate today. Frank Gore got

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Speaker 1: his rest day. He did not practice, Sir and Neil

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Speaker 1: still in concussion protocol, did not practice today, and tian

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Speaker 1: Secki did not practice today. It's his ankle. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be week to week. And in addition, here a total

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Speaker 1: issue suffered by Jordan Phillips and he is now limited

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Speaker 1: on the injury list. Jaquan Johnson on the injury list

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Speaker 1: as full practice participant with a hand injury. Okay, we'll

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Speaker 1: see Tomorrow is a big day for that, right towards

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Speaker 1: a big day for the show. We've got Lorenzo Alexander

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Speaker 1: joining us. We've got Greg Cosal and Rich Gannon. We

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Speaker 1: hope to get him on part of the NFL on

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Speaker 1: CBS team. And your old teammate, Leonard Smith's gonna join

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Speaker 1: us tomorrow twelve thirty. You look forward to that, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the hit Man, The hit Man, Leonard Smith's gonna be

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Speaker 1: with us tomorrow on the show. Thanks to our production

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Speaker 1: assistant George Blast, Jeff Colt, Nick Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude,

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Speaker 1: j J. Trito, Kevin Cartis, James Robel, and our producer

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Speaker 1: Jay Harris, We're back here tomorrow twelve noon. Join us,

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Speaker 1: won't you. One Bill's Live presented by Kalata Health from

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Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio at One Bill's Drive. And this is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio.