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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast. Can't fight this feeling anymore?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Handus, and I'm joined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and Kevin Patra.

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Speaker 1: What up, boys, Hey, Dan, Kevin's grown a significant beard

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Speaker 1: since we last saw him. It's it's okay, It's it's

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Speaker 1: a winter beard. I don't know you l a guys

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Speaker 1: in your clean shaven nous. I guess living in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: And the Patra, of course, is our Chicago correspondent for

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Speaker 1: Around the League. We call him on Sunday's. Usually it

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Speaker 1: sounds like he's in a bathroom restroom. I usually am

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Speaker 1: in a bathroom rest room after high level ingestions um

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Speaker 1: of copious alcoholic substances. Today he's here, uh, presumably sober

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Speaker 1: at ten thirty in the morning on the West Coast. Kevin,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the studio. How are you. I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: This is a This is actually a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a different show, different Friday. Not only do we have

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Speaker 1: Kevin Patron's studio, Greg Rosenthal by the way downstairs doing

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Speaker 1: some boss stuff. Hopefully he will join us later behind

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Speaker 1: the glass filling in for k Rich. Who is out

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Speaker 1: today is the great Zach Goldman. Zach, how are you what?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? We wait a second, Zach, we coming, Dear,

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Speaker 1: I gotta earn it. Do you ever heard the expression

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Speaker 1: too soon? I didn't even realize you hadn't said it.

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Speaker 1: That's how bad of a producer. It's okay, it's okay, listen,

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Speaker 1: rookie mistake that you know, it's a very That's how

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Speaker 1: it was awful. Sorry, So Zach Zack is behind the

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Speaker 1: glass today. If he if he messes up, we will.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get on him pretty hard. You won't hear

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Speaker 1: it on the podcast. We'll be afterwards where we kind

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Speaker 1: of bury him. This show is on some tectonic shifts

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Speaker 1: right now. We've got Patrick suddenly in our state. Gotta

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Speaker 1: got Zack behind the glass, Yes, exactly. So before we

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Speaker 1: get going, I just don't I wanted to touch on

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Speaker 1: one thing also, that's also changing. It's a day of

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Speaker 1: of of changes, or a time of changing. Chris Westling

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Speaker 1: wearing a hat today, But Chris Westling is has made

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Speaker 1: the decision to grow his hair in and I want

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Speaker 1: and now he's gonna reveal it. I would like to

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Speaker 1: now make my formal my formal statement on how I

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Speaker 1: feel about West, who usually is clean shaven up top

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Speaker 1: the last several weeks, decided to grow it in. I'm in.

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Speaker 1: I like it, and that's my vote. I think he

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Speaker 1: should continue to grow it out. Yeah, whenever someone who

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Speaker 1: as long as we've known Wesley had a very clean

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Speaker 1: shaven head. Yeah, I don't. Honestly, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I don't know what color my hair. Well, it's it's

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Speaker 1: darker than I thought. It could be blond or maybe

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Speaker 1: even white. He used to be blonde, more of a

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Speaker 1: dishwater blonde, I think. But yeah, it's actually exceeded the

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Speaker 1: Grand experiment, has exceeded my expectations. I'm still missing some patches,

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Speaker 1: but uh, it's better than I it's it's a very

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Speaker 1: rich eyes and quality to it. Yeah, it's eyes and

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Speaker 1: ask it's maybe Bruce willis die hard to level. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's not bad at all. Maybe we should if

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Speaker 1: you're comfortable posting it on Twitter and having the people

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Speaker 1: say whether to keep it or not, Oh that's fine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll get into that. So why don't we get

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Speaker 1: into football unless anybody else has something to say about

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Speaker 1: West's hair. I just wanted to that big Facebook discussion

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Speaker 1: that you were a part of yesterday, Well not really

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Speaker 1: a part of, but your name was thrown in which

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Speaker 1: one about the toaster and yes, yes, yes, okay, so

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Speaker 1: West who defended his toaster on Wednesday with two big victories.

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Speaker 1: That was my ex girlfriend who started that discussion, and

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Speaker 1: she reminded me of an incident I think I was

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Speaker 1: about thirty years old involving a Macy's department store three

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Speaker 1: way mirror and my hairline. Where is this story? You

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Speaker 1: You know, I was going about four thirty in the

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Speaker 1: like it and we're you know, we're always in support

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Speaker 1: of you. John Marvel, who is our boss downstairs, one

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Speaker 1: not happy with Chris growing in and maybe it's threatening

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Speaker 1: selling out bald people. Hmm, interesting, leaving him behind. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I sprouted wings. I'm leaving him behind. I wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 1: I want to do that, all right. So let's move

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Speaker 1: on to Thursday night. Football will start there because this

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Speaker 1: was I saw it on our website. I read it

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Speaker 1: because Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal worked the game last night.

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Speaker 1: The upset of the year, Wes, Is that accurate? I

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Speaker 1: think so. I think the only other game that could

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Speaker 1: I feel like this was even more of an upset.

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Speaker 1: And I know you and I Dan, You and I

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Speaker 1: both had the same reaction after the game. There are

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Speaker 1: going to be a lot of narratives written that the

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Speaker 1: Chargers found the blueprint to how to beat the Broncos

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Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning still can't play in the cold and

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Speaker 1: the Broncos defense is a mess. And I thought it

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Speaker 1: was more just the Chargers played a brilliant game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is the blueprint. The quarterback has to play flawlessly. Uh,

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Speaker 1: all that, yes you could beat the Broncos in their building,

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Speaker 1: but it's not easy to do well. And Charlie Castley

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Speaker 1: don't see that. It was a San Diego defense that

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Speaker 1: say analysts on television have very short memories. What did

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Speaker 1: you Patrick, would you take out of it? I was

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Speaker 1: surprised at how little Lebroncos could run the ball, to

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Speaker 1: That's that's the guy with like seven small children at home.

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Speaker 1: I think it is. Yes, I admire the guys any

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Speaker 1: energy of the fact that to do what he looked

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Speaker 1: Nine and seven. Is not absurd to think that they No.

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Speaker 1: I now think that I've been saying all along. I

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Speaker 1: and I think the Broncos will still take that number

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Speaker 1: just falling apart um. All right, let's move on to

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Speaker 1: the rest of week fifteen. Week fifteen, Mark Sessler. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: into offseason chaos, chaos and madness. Mark, by the way,

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Speaker 1: The trip is a wild card. Mark offered to trade

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Speaker 1: Only because West. If you know Wes, he projects an

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Speaker 1: the way, I hope this is the first podcast ever

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Speaker 1: with Mark Sessler. Uh, the Washington Redskins are going to

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Speaker 1: Atlanta with Kirk Cousins behind centers. As you may have

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Speaker 1: heard if you follow the game, r G three has

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Speaker 1: been shut down for the balance of the season. Why.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh. The explanation is something along the

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Speaker 1: lines of so he doesn't get hurt, but he's not

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Speaker 1: hurt right now, and there's three games left. It's all

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Speaker 1: very confusing to me, but that's what happened. Even without

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Speaker 1: r G three. Mark believes the Redskins will go into

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Speaker 1: Atlanta and beat the Falcons to three intent teams, one

436
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Speaker 1: three intent team looking a lot worse than the other.

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Speaker 1: But Mark picked the Redskins. I'll ask you, Mrs Sessler,

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Speaker 1: to defend your hero. I don't think it's that crazy

439
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Speaker 1: of a pick. I'm surprised I got a hero on this.

440
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Speaker 1: I understand that Washington's under a lot of chaos. But

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Speaker 1: I look at a couple of things. Hey, I like

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Speaker 1: Alfred Morris in this game, uh B, I don't think

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Speaker 1: the offense changes that considerably with Kirk Cousins in there

444
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Speaker 1: against a bad Falcons defense that is as a drift

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Speaker 1: as Washington's is. Three bad teams playing at this time

446
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Speaker 1: of year. Weird stuff happens, and you want to say

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Speaker 1: the Redskins has given up. The Falcons gave up weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: I I almost picked this game. I almost took the

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Speaker 1: Redskins thinking, like you know, sometimes a backup comes in,

450
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Speaker 1: especially in an odd situation. Everything coalesces and he plays great.

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Speaker 1: And I think Kirk Cousins is a starting quarterback, so

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Speaker 1: I think he can play well. But then I realized

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Speaker 1: that everybody else on that team, maybe aside from London Fletcher,

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Speaker 1: has already quit on the Sea Sason. Their coaches don't

455
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: seem to care. I they might give up three special

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Speaker 1: teams touchdowns for all we know, because they can't stop anybody.

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Speaker 1: This is a bad football it's it's it's not a

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Speaker 1: very good team. And that they just seem like after

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Speaker 1: r G three, that whole debaccle this week. All the

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Speaker 1: from what you hear from the players talk talking, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like they're gonna be out there ready to play.

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Speaker 1: The Washington Redskins special teams is the worst that Football

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Speaker 1: Outsiders has ever recorded. Their defense has allowed more than

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Speaker 1: twenty four points in twelve or thirteen games. They've held

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Speaker 1: the lead for a fewer minutes than any team in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. This is the worst team in the league.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at Kirk Cousins stats, he had

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Speaker 1: a two game stretch at the end of last year

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Speaker 1: where he played pretty well. Outside of that, his stats

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Speaker 1: are the equivalent of Blaine Gabbert. Well and that this

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Speaker 1: is not a good quarterback. This is not an upgrade

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Speaker 1: on r G three. And that's one thing I find

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Speaker 1: crazy about this is that the Redskins, if anything, someone

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Speaker 1: was gonna go Kevin Cobb, Matt Flynn on on at

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Speaker 1: Cousins at some point, right because it's sight unseen. He

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Speaker 1: came in, he played Cleveland, he beat him on a

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Speaker 1: very different football game. He might expose him as what

478
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: you're just saying right now, trade value plummets. I think

479
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: he's already been exposed. Is that And I think people,

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Speaker 1: if you watch the film of his games outside of

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Speaker 1: those two late season games, there's no reason to believe

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Speaker 1: that Kirk Cousins will be a guy that you come

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Speaker 1: in and you build your offense around him. You're always

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Speaker 1: gonna hit to surround a guy like him with talent.

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Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills are wrapping up another disappointing regular season.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna finish under five yet again, there's some type

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Speaker 1: of epically depressing streak going on there, although I don't

488
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Speaker 1: have it in hand right now, but it's been a

489
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Speaker 1: long time since the Bills were a playoff team and

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Speaker 1: a even a team you would say is dangerous. They

491
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Speaker 1: are now four and nine, coming off a six loss,

492
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Speaker 1: and now they go to Jacksonville to improve, to face

493
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Speaker 1: a Jacksonville Jaguars team that's been improved. Greg Rosenthal picked

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Speaker 1: the Bills to come out of the fog here down

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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Greg is not here right now, So I

496
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Speaker 1: will throw to Kevin Patra and you will be tasked

497
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Speaker 1: with defending Gregg's here. I'm supposed to defend with Gregg

498
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Speaker 1: expla well, just explain why we've done. Can make it

499
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Speaker 1: two on many many a week to be honest, yes,

500
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Speaker 1: and it has not been easy. And now it is

501
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Speaker 1: your turn to to explain to us why the Bills

502
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Speaker 1: can win. I well, they have they give good young pieces.

503
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Speaker 1: If e j Manuel plays he hasn't played well the

504
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Speaker 1: last few weeks. If he does play well against the

505
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: uh AT Jacksonville defense that has played well better, which

506
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Speaker 1: is the reason I took them to win this game.

507
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: They Bill certainly have better pieces in place for the future,

508
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: and if they play well together. I think Kiko Alonso

509
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: can do well against the run game. That's not gonna

510
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Speaker 1: now have Maurice Jones Drew in it, most likely he's

511
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Speaker 1: short questionable. Oh in Buffalo leads to league in sacks

512
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Speaker 1: and their second in picks defense is for real. Jones

513
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Speaker 1: Drew has played well over the past month, well, relatively

514
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Speaker 1: well compared to earlier season. But Jordan Todman shogged quite

515
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Speaker 1: a bit in the preseason. He looks like he's quite

516
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Speaker 1: a bit faster than Jones Drew, So that's a wild

517
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Speaker 1: card in this game. What what Jordan Todman does in

518
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Speaker 1: the running game. The Houston Texans are riding in eleven

519
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: game losing streak. They fired their coach last Friday after

520
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: Thursday night loss. Wade Phillips is on a seven thousand

521
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Speaker 1: interm job is that the right number, believe the unofficial

522
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Speaker 1: record holder for most in term, So they will try

523
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Speaker 1: to break that streak in Indianapolis on on Sunday against

524
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Speaker 1: the Colts team obviously that's headed towards the playoff, but

525
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: but not playing particularly well at all. Mark Sessler, in

526
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Speaker 1: possibly um a fit of paranoid uh schizophrenia, chose that

527
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Speaker 1: the Texans that get off the snide here explained to

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Speaker 1: us defend your hero again. I just I don't find

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Speaker 1: it to be that stunning of a pick, because, uh,

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00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: the Cults are not a good football team, and they're

531
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Speaker 1: heading in the wrong direction. And I like the I

532
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: like the case Keenum factor here. I understand he's not

533
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: played as well lately, but I don't you know. This

534
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: is a late season game between two teams obviously heading

535
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Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. I am lasting picks, and I

536
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: forked myself two weeks ago, so when I come on

537
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: here and defend something, you don't have to believe me.

538
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: The Colts lost last week, which by Andrew lux record,

539
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: he will definitely in no. But is that streak is

540
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: that something that continue until the earth passes away. It's immutable. Well,

541
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: then I've made a giant air. There's something interesting going

542
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: on in Indianapolis. You know, I've killed this team for

543
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: about two months a half day. Rick Rogers very intriguing

544
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: to me. This could turn the offense around a little bit.

545
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: They haven't had that playmaker opposite t Y Hilton. David

546
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: Rodgers compared to Terrell Owens and Eric Molds coming out

547
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: of the draft, the only reason he didn't get drafted

548
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: was because of character issues. Was considered a first or

549
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: second round talent. Last week he had over a hundred

550
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns, the first rookie receiver to do

551
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Speaker 1: that this year. Big time talent could turn this offense

552
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: really interesting because just in time for the playoffs. Obviously,

553
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: you know it's not just one thing, but the Reggie

554
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: Wayne thing. We've beaten that horse to death. If that's

555
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: what their Jenga piece was. If you can find another

556
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: guy to come in and set t Y free interesting offense.

557
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals need to win to keep pace in

558
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: the NFC playoff race. They had to Tennessee to face

559
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: the Titans. Um this is a case for me because

560
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: I took the Titans. This is my hero pick, and

561
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: I like the Titans more than other people do, and

562
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: I like the Cardinals less than other people do. So

563
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: it kind of met here. And with it being a

564
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: road game I went, or being a home game for

565
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: the Titans, I I picked them. How strongly do I

566
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Speaker 1: feel about it? I don't feel extremely great about this pick,

567
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: but I made it. That was kind of like a

568
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: Sessler style, not quite defending defend your here. I think

569
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: you've read to find it. That was very weird. But

570
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: at the same time, I think, uh, I think this

571
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: will be a close game. I might have underestimated how

572
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: import in the game is to the Cardinals and how

573
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: much they have to play for, which will probably do

574
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: me well. How about how much Tennessee has to play for.

575
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: That entire coaching staff is going to be swept out

576
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: onto the bread line. I think you underestimated the respective

577
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: quality of these teams. Look at the past six weeks.

578
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: Cardinals are probably five and one and the Titans might

579
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Speaker 1: be one in five. Yeah they're not. They're heading in

580
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: opposite directions. Poor job good, not good at all? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Do we have anything else to say about this game?

582
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: I just I think we're disappointed with your general effort here,

583
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: and you're right, let's move on, and disappointed myself. Uh,

584
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: moving on. The Cincinnati Bengals, formerly formerly supported by Chris Westling,

585
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: who's in recovery, head to Pittsburgh to face the Steelers,

586
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: who we forked this week after a disappointing home loss

587
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: to the Dolphins. Chris Westling, you took the Steelers, which

588
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: probably plays into your hatred of the Bengals, But I'd

589
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: like to know if there are actual football reasons behind. Sure,

590
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 1: the Steelers are better than their record, and the Bengals say,

591
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, that's all I had to But this is

592
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: and we don't know. Yeah, we don't know. If anyone

593
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: can predict what Andy Dalton will do, they might be

594
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: declared emperor of football. But can Ike Taylor stop a J. Green?

595
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: He did earlier in the year, but you're right, he's played.

596
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: Ike Taylor might be the worst cornerback in football over

597
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: the past month. They really fell off the cliffs. You

598
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: put Taylor on a J. Green in this game. I

599
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: think the Steelers will. They all they've been matching him

600
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Speaker 1: up with the best, but he has been But it

601
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: hasn't matter. But it hasn't mattered at all. They still

602
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: they think safety help over the top. But yeah, I

603
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think that will be what the

604
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: Bengals attack. You know, Big Ben hasn't thrown a pick

605
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: in four games, and West wrote this last week, and

606
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: he is not the reason, and neither is Antonio Brown.

607
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: That Pittsburgh is sort of a wayward up and down

608
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: situation that offense can put up points. I don't look

609
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: at the Miami game as another snow game or some

610
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: weird stuff happened. They still throw the ball, they still

611
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: continue to generate yardage. I just listen. I I realized

612
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: we don't give of Bengals a lot of respect on

613
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: this show, and their fan base can come at us

614
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: with that. But I need to see Andy Dalton win

615
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: this game before I can buy him on any level.

616
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: Because they can't beat the Steelers in this division. They

617
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: haven't done it. I know they're fan base. Don't worry

618
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: about them. I just worry about the Steelers being able

619
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Speaker 1: to tackle the Bengals playmakers. I mean, they couldn't tackle

620
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: Clay last week, granted in the snow, but that shouldn't

621
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: have stopped some of those tackles just blatantly missed snow

622
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: or not snow, and they're gonna have to go tackle

623
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: ge Bonnie Bernard. I'm not sure that they they're gonna

624
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: be able to the tea up for a defensive revamp

625
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. Obviously, even though Dick Lebo said today he

626
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: didn't think it was a problem. And just like Wednesday's

627
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: podcast Riding in Our Night and Shining Armor on the

628
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Speaker 1: White Horse, the Boss, Greg rose All rolls into the studio.

629
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Speaker 1: What's up, Greg, what's happening? You were just downstairs doing

630
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: some Aaron Rodgers work. Yes, Aaron Rodgers was ruled out.

631
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: Sounded like there was some frustration from Mike McCarthy just

632
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: reading between the lines on the doctors not clearing Rogers.

633
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: He said, there's clearly frustration and disappointment from Rogers perspective.

634
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: He thought he wanted to check off a few boxes

635
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: this week in terms of how he felt and through

636
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: and he did that in Rob McCarthy called it a

637
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: very difficult morning to tell his franchise quarterback that he

638
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: could not play, And just reading between the lines, you

639
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Speaker 1: felt like McCarthy was maybe a little disappointed to but

640
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Speaker 1: the doctor mackenzie is their trainer. He didn't clear right.

641
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: You could tell yesterday McCarthy was getting his hopes up.

642
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: He called Aaron Rodgers my guy. He said, if you

643
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: see the way my guys throwing the ball right now,

644
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: you know he's you could tell that he had to

645
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: have been crestfall and well he's he's a Pittsburgh guy.

646
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: And it came out in this press garments. You don't

647
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: normally see McCarthy visibly upset, but someone kind of asked about,

648
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: well are you disappointed? Was Rogers this point, and he

649
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: was like, don't make me play word battles with you.

650
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: And you never see you never see McCarthy get like that.

651
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: So look, he's got the season maybe on the line

652
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: in Dallas, and he's gonna have to go with Matt Flynn.

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Speaker 1: Well where you jump in here, Greg, is we're in

654
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Speaker 1: the middle of our defend the hero segment. I thought

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Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick did about a B minus to be job

656
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Speaker 1: of defending your A C plus heart assignment C plus

657
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Speaker 1: job of defending your bills pick to go into Jacksonville.

658
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Speaker 1: So why don't you, Greg, since you're here defend your hero.

659
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Speaker 1: Go ahead. The Bill's defense is the best thing that's

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Speaker 1: going on in this game. Just because the Jaguars beat

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Speaker 1: some lay mass teams the last few weeks doesn't mean

662
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Speaker 1: they're great. And if I can get a hero pick

663
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: up against Chad Henny and no Cecil Shorts, maybe in

664
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Speaker 1: this matchup, no Maurice Jones, Drew, Who's doubtful, sign me up.

665
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: And it stunning that we are at any point in

666
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Speaker 1: this season in a situation where someone gets a hero

667
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Speaker 1: pick by not picking the Jaguar. I'll take that. Jaguars

668
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: are the hottest team in the FC. Greg smells the

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Speaker 1: finish line now he is. I believe it was a

670
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Speaker 1: six game lead on Wesleyan Patra in our picks over Patrick.

671
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: Wesley has been making up some ground quickly. There my

672
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: stated goal of third place this season, I'm right locked

673
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: in about three or four games behind somebody. I'm shooting

674
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: for the stars. Me and you are are defining mediocrity.

675
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: That's what I want to do. That's my whole life plan. Alright,

676
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: So let's move on. That's the end of the defend

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Speaker 1: your Hero segment. We'll move on to the rest of

678
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Speaker 1: the week fifteen games. They are not what we defined

679
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Speaker 1: as the top games. Or hero picks. But they are games,

680
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: they exist, They deserve respect, and we will start right

681
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: now with the Chicago Bears. Actually got some heat on

682
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Speaker 1: Twitter from a followers was upset we didn't talk about

683
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Speaker 1: the Bears performance on Monday night. Uh against the Cowboys.

684
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: They deserve respect. That was a great game with Josh McCown. However,

685
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Speaker 1: Josh McCown is no longer in the picture. Jay Cutler

686
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Speaker 1: is back in the lineup, Mark Sessler, Jay Cutler goes

687
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: to Cleveland to face the Browns, and you feel great

688
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: about it, don't you? Well, I do think this is

689
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Speaker 1: if you want a reason to watch this game, it's

690
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: got a couple of reasons. Number one, Uh, we already

691
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: we already know about Brandon Marshall, But let's talk about

692
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: maybe the first and second best young receiver in the

693
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Speaker 1: NFL right now, All Sean Jeffrey, like Josh Gordon. I mean,

694
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be But we saw what Jeffrey and Brandon

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Speaker 1: Marshall did Dallas last week. Let's get in the mood

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Speaker 1: for this game. Yeah, well, it's a big game. That

697
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Speaker 1: is Zack behind the glass filling in. That was some

698
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: of the loudest seduction Friday. You know, I didn't think

699
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Speaker 1: that Zach could pull off seduction Friday like k Rich could,

700
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Speaker 1: and it worked out that not quite there yet. Let's

701
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: be honest, we're losing a little sex appeal going from

702
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: Crystal to Zack. But well it depends who the listeners.

703
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: But that's right true so far as Zack has done

704
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: a great job on balance. So but anyway, back to

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Speaker 1: your point, because I love that point, Gordon. Yeah, I

706
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: think that you know, and we didn't. We didn't know

707
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: this in a week one, but we have two of

708
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: the most exciting young players and listen from a this

709
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: is a huge game for the Bears. They've snuck up

710
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Speaker 1: on the Lions in the last couple of weeks, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's you got an got a potential tinder

712
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Speaker 1: box situation if Cutler comes in and doesn't perform because

713
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Speaker 1: McCown what thirteen touchdowns one pick looked utterly perfect on

714
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Speaker 1: Monday night. I I admire trust him for sticking to

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Speaker 1: his guns, but this could this could be ugly for

716
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Speaker 1: Chicago against a good Brown's defense if they don't get

717
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Speaker 1: the win. Kevin Patrick was in Chicago on Monday night

718
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Speaker 1: after after m account threw four touchdowns and ran for another.

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Speaker 1: Did you have any feeling that he was gonna actually

720
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Speaker 1: lose his job now? No, I mean I didn't think so.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think Cutler would be back right away. I

722
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Speaker 1: think you could make the argument that this is like

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Speaker 1: Cutler knowing that he's got to do something this year

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Speaker 1: to to get a contract for next year and convincing

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Speaker 1: the staff to to define him as healthy. I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you go back to m account

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Speaker 1: if if Cutler struggles after all you've said now, I mean,

728
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Speaker 1: you almost needed him to lose the game. Like I thought,

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Speaker 1: the week after they lost in Minnesota was the week

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Speaker 1: that Cutler would come back. Because they had a loss,

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Speaker 1: they could have now gone there. There was a couple

732
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: of drives in that game that mcau didn't didn't finish.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't his fault. They lost the game. I'm not

734
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Speaker 1: gonna not say that, but they got to the red

735
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: zone they couldn't finish in Color has been better there.

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00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: I thought that they would go back there. Now, I

737
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Speaker 1: don't know how you go back once you've made the

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Speaker 1: switch again, And I think that could become a problem

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Speaker 1: if Color struggles, which he could he did against Detroit

740
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: or when he came back from the first injury. It's

741
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: just a media problem. And I love trust mean because

742
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he cares. I mean, he makes decisions

743
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Speaker 1: on what he thinks is best. And he could take

744
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: some heat. And maybe they'll lose because of color. I

745
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: doubt it. I think they're both. It doesn't matter which

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00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: quarterback they play, that's how and Jason Campbell could light

747
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: up that defense. We gotta give Jason Campbell a little credit.

748
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: Played outstanding last week when he gets protected. He's played

749
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: pretty well this year, and the pairs have no pass.

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00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: This game has one of those uh dual statistics where

751
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Speaker 1: maybe the game, maybe the earth just disappears, where like

752
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: the Bears run defense is so god awful, but Cleveland's

753
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: ability to run the football doesn't exist, and so maybe

754
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: the stadium folds in on itself. The Browns couldn't run

755
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: on Patriots, who's run defense have been horrible before. If

756
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: you guys want to hear, you guys want to hear

757
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: how exceptional Josh Gordon has been. Yes, if not, okay, okay,

758
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: that's it for the podcast. If not for the two

759
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: games suspension to begin the year, he would be on

760
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: pace for the first two thousand yard receiving season in history.

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Speaker 1: He is less than a yard behind West Chandler's pace

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Speaker 1: for the most receiving yards per game in a season.

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00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: He is seven yards per game, are forty more per

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Speaker 1: game than the previous Cleveland Browns record holder Max Speedy

765
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: from nineteen. What's the first star player in twenty thirty years?

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00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: Mark Hope is a good thing? Well? I mean this way,

767
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: they almost traded this guy who's gonna blow out his

768
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: need this weekend. Right, he just angered the football race

769
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: that knocked I just knocked on would I will find

770
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: you and destroy you. If that's I don't want it to.

771
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: He's on my fantasy team. If he's on your fantasy team,

772
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: we do not want him to suffer a catastrophic knee injury. Um,

773
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. The Philadelphia Eagles, inching toward

774
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Speaker 1: an NFC East title, head to Minnesota to face the Vikings.

775
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson is questionable for this game, and uh, you

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Speaker 1: know there's no we don't have any reason to believe

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00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: the Eagles won't continue to play well. However, the Vikings

778
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: have been frisky West. Uh do you see the Eagles

779
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: stumbling here or is this another step on the way

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Speaker 1: to the NFC East title. I don't see them stumbling.

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00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: They've won five in a row. They're a very good

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Speaker 1: team right now. The Vikings are not. Greg Peterson is questionable.

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00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: Does it look like he's going to play. He's a

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00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: game time decision. Leslie Fraser was surprised at how good

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Speaker 1: he looked at practice today. He said, his gate g A,

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Speaker 1: I t there looked good and uh, Toby Gerhardt's very

787
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: questionable for this game. So there's an outside chance we

788
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: might see starting running back Mac. But it Frasier was fun.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he just said, based on the diagnosed this,

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Speaker 1: he was kind of stunned how good Peterson looked. But

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00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: that's kind of right now, that's Peterson. If Peterson, If

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Speaker 1: Peterson and Gihart both sait out, what is the over

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00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: under on Cordarol Patterson carries four? Should be like, couldn't

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Speaker 1: he just be a running back? Yeah? That would be interesting,

795
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: tall running back. Nobody wants to see Matt Asiata. No

796
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: Matt Aziata, who rumbled for sixty seven yards in the

797
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: preseason on Yeah, I tweeted. I tweeted yesterday that I

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Speaker 1: thought that while Keenan Allen is definitely the best wide

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Speaker 1: receiver of the Sea season, that Patterson could end up

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00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: being the best guy of that class. He needs to

801
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: get the ball in his hands. Let me give him

802
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: the ball. Totally agree with that. Is it asiata or

803
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: asiata doesn't matter? Ultimately we don't. We just don't even know.

804
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: I would like doesn't matter. I would like a podcast

805
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: full of Mark just saying asiata. I just want to

806
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Speaker 1: get it right, all right. Moving on, the Seattle Seahawks, UH,

807
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: coming off a loss in San Francisco, have a chance

808
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: closer to the number one overall see it in the NFC.

809
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: They can do it in the Metal Ends against a

810
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: Giant team that obviously has nothing left to play for

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Speaker 1: Kevin Patra Uh, the Giants at home maybe have a

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00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: shot to make this competitive, Yes or no? I do

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00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: not think so. I think you're gonna have a an

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Speaker 1: angry Seahawks team coming off of loss. They felt they

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00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: probably could have one, should have one against Eli Manning,

816
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: who maybe he's getting back on his interception streak and

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00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: New York won't have JPP anymore. He hasn't been as

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Speaker 1: good as last year, so that's another big loss for them. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I think that the Seahawks are gonna are going

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Speaker 1: to be able to run the ball against the Giants,

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Speaker 1: even though that's been their strong suit defensively one X factor.

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Speaker 1: It's supposed to snow heavily. Can can even tell me

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Speaker 1: what is going on with Eli Manning. He hasn't been

824
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: a good quarterback in about twenty or twenty five games now.

825
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: He's gotten off the hook this season because he's got

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00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: two of Justin Tuck's rings, so he gets off the

827
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: hook when he wasn't very good last season either. It

828
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: just goes to show you how how much rope a

829
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring gives you. This he could lead the

830
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: league and interceptions for a third time. That's a lot

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00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: of times. And Dan always thinks I'm anti Giants organization

832
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: where you are. This is a fact and no one

833
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: can argue facts. In the last five years, they have

834
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: made the playoffs one time and they won the Super Bowl.

835
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Speaker 1: They won the Super Bowl, so that's good. They deserve

836
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: a lot more credit than the Chiefs, who have also

837
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 1: made the playoffs once. But it's probably gonna be twice

838
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: now in five years. But that's not a sign of

839
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: a particularly good organization. I asked Mark and Dan this

840
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: question last night. Of all true franchise quarterbacks, can you

841
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: think of any quarterback who has had more crappy seasons

842
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: than Eli Manning? No, I mean I think he defines

843
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 1: that right now? He does, right, I mean he's he's

844
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: stood out in the wrong way. New York City, forty

845
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Speaker 1: interceptions between the two stories starting quarterbacks right now, get better,

846
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: New York. Come on, This is good test of how

847
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: bad the Seahawks are on the road, really, because they

848
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: do score ten points less a game, they give up

849
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Speaker 1: three points more. They're a different team on the road

850
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: because they should stomp the Giants if they're as good

851
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: as we think they're. The San Francisco forty Niners, coming

852
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: off that huge win over the Seahawks at home, now

853
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: travel to Tampa Bay to face a frisky Bucks team. Greg,

854
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: I'll ask you the Niners are they Do you consider

855
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: them a lock for that sixth seed? How confident are

856
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: you that they win this game and put themselves in

857
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: that position and we'll take it home and be playing

858
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: in January. I'm very confident because I think the only

859
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: way it doesn't happen is if Arizona goes to Seattle

860
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: next week and wins because they have to catch up

861
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: a game on San Francisco with only three left, San

862
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: Francisco could let them back in. I think this is

863
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: a dangerous game. I don't know about you, guys. I mean,

864
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't think the Bucks are like the Jaguars have

865
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: won four or five and the Bucks have one four

866
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: or five, But they're much different. To me, the Buccaneers

867
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: are just as good as the Colts, who are going

868
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. They're just as good as the

869
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: number six seed in the a f C. I had

870
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: this conversation with Westling. Maybe I'll get the rest of

871
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: you guys answer, who do you take on a neutral

872
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: field right now? The Colts or the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

873
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 1: and the fight in Siano's I hear you with Tampa.

874
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: But I feel like Siano for all the white hot

875
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: mess that was happening in September and October, his programs

876
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: kind of come into view here and I think he's

877
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: starting to get some buy in. And their defense was

878
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: never a disaster. I take them as coming off a loss, Yes, exactly,

879
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: that's the key. Yes, I take the cults that is

880
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: you're aware of Mark, that Tampa Bay's quarterback is circling

881
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: the grain right now. He's playing like he's about to

882
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: go on a Geno Smith level four game stretch of

883
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: ineptitude now and he has he has, he has gone downhill.

884
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: But overall, I feel like they made the right decision

885
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: at quarterback, good defense. This could be a It should

886
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: be a close game because even when they're going well,

887
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: they're non explosive offense, and the Buccaneers defense is playing well.

888
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: I think any time a rookie quarterback goes on a

889
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: two game stretch like Glennon has, you're you're taking a

890
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: very big leap of faith to think he can pull

891
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: himself out of it. Well, we're saying they could play

892
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: against the Colts. I don't think Tampa Bay is winning

893
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: this game against San Francisco. None of us do, None

894
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: of us pick him. This could be the game if

895
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: if the Bucks won this game, this could be the

896
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: one that saves Siano's job. So I think his job

897
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: is safe to begin with right now. If they lose out,

898
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: lose out, I mean they lose to the Niners, who

899
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: are coming off a Super Bowl. I don't think that

900
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: change they've been four and twelve. Does he keep his job?

901
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 1: I don't think he's in the hot water he was before.

902
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the inside information. That's just I feel

903
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: like they've shown they've shown something down the star. I

904
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: think Dan's right. It probably depends what happens the final

905
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: three games, and especially with Glennon, I think that he

906
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: could have saved his job just by his Speaking of

907
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: Gino Smith and New York Jets UH fighting for their

908
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: playoff lives. They are heading to Carolina, very tough assignment

909
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: against the Panthers. UH. I am personally not very confident

910
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: about this game at all as a jetsman. I know

911
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: the entire room, we all picked the Panthers West. Is

912
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: there any way that the Jets moved the ball against

913
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: this Panthers defense? I don't see it. I think the

914
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: Jets did well to move the ball last week. They're

915
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: playing a much better defense this week. I don't see.

916
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: I felt kind of good about Geno Smith finally having

917
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: a bounce back game last week. I don't see it

918
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: against Luke Keekley and Charles Johnson. Johnson is much better

919
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: help this week than he was last week. Yeah, I

920
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: don't I don't see. The Jets just don't have the weapons.

921
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: It's a big game for Geno Smith coming off, like

922
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: you said, an improved game after the Geno coaster had crashed.

923
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: He he played pretty well last week. If he was

924
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: able to be competitive on Sunday, that's another big building block.

925
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: And I know the organization wants to feel good about

926
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: this guy going to the offseason, but this is a

927
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: tough draw for them, and I think I think we

928
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: could be looking at thirty four six. I mean, what

929
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: does round like a good building If Giano needs to

930
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: win out, what does Rex Ryan need to do? I

931
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: think three games left, I think he might need to

932
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: win two and this one's gonna be tough. So this

933
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: is weird. But if you're a Chargers fan out there,

934
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: I know I'm getting deep into the tiebreakers. You should

935
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: be rooting for the Jets in this game because the

936
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: only I did all the math, the only tiebreak the

937
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: Chargers could possibly win at nine and seven would be

938
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: if there's a three way tie involving the Jets and

939
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. It's very confusing. You did didn't I did it?

940
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: I did it because the Jets with the knock out,

941
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: the Dolphins knock out the Greg's home with like a

942
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: little burning candle and like a feather pen, doing all

943
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: the math in front of his bookshelf. The Kansas City

944
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: Chiefs head to Oakland to face the Raiders. Kevin Patra

945
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: We don't need to spend too much time on this

946
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: because I think we all we all have a good

947
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: feeling how this is going to turn out. Uh, any

948
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: chance Chris Wesley gets nervous about a softball pets. No, No,

949
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: not at all. I don't think something I'm nervous. Yeah,

950
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: tell us stories. Well, there's always games like this. Oakland's

951
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: playing at home. Home upsets happ and all the time,

952
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: especially in the division. Look at the Chargers, Well that

953
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: wasn't even a home upset. Look at Chargers Broncos Division

954
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: upsets happy, especially in Oakland. For Kansas City, they struggled

955
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: in Oakland. Matt mcloy is uh Sessler's version of case

956
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: Keenum to West. So, Mark, you must be feeling pretty

957
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: good about Matt mcgloyan doing some damage against that ailing chief. Secondary. Well,

958
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 1: I think as West has cooled some degree on Keenum

959
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: or he is able to see it logically, I'm not

960
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: sold on mcgloyan as some fire starter that's gonna come

961
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: in and generate an upset. Here by the way, to

962
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: quote Damashack, what's with this hocum of bringing Terrell Prior

963
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: in for series as they as they did last week?

964
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: Can we please Matt mcgloyan played very well, especially in

965
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: the second half on Sunday. The guy has shown some

966
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: good things. Let him finish the season. Also, that wasn't, oh,

967
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: we're going to put Prior in in certain situations. They

968
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: totally disrupted the first half and then they went to

969
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: mcgloyn almost the entire seconds like that wasn't That wasn't

970
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: a well orchestrated move at all. It probably throws the

971
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: team off. We're trying to start to believe in mcgloyd.

972
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: You put Prior in there, like you reverse back to

973
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: week five for five minutes, and it's like when the

974
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: Jets go to Wildcat, right, you know, it's momentum and McLoyd,

975
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: poor mcgloyd has like a w T F face for

976
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: that entire possession, wondering. I'm sure he knew it was

977
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: gonna happen, but at the same time, when it happened,

978
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: you could tell he was like what am I doing

979
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: on the side, And we talked about Dennis Allen making

980
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: the leap. That's the little hint that maybe he hasn't

981
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: coaching coaching. They said they wanted to evaluate Terrell Prior.

982
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: If you want to evaluate him, start him and play

983
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: the whole game. You know you can't evaluate him. You

984
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: cannot evaluate a quarterback on one series. Calm down, everyone,

985
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 1: and why him? We always kill the NFL and coaches

986
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: for everyone's the same, everyone copies each other, everyone's traditional.

987
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: And then once someone does a little something old school

988
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: like they used to do with bart Star has made

989
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: some Hall of famers, they bring him in out of lineup.

990
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, it's really this isn't really

991
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: really disrupted Oakland and the game they could win. If

992
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: you can tell me how that accomplishes your goal of

993
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 1: evaluating Terrell Prior, then I'll say that that's that's that's stupid.

994
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: They're trying to win the game. I think I don't

995
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: think it's for about They're trying to have their cake.

996
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: You eat it too, but it doesn't work. And for

997
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: the record, Prior did help lead them on field goal drive,

998
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: so maybe it was a huge success in the end. Ultimately,

999
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: well that's their evaluation if we want field goals next year, Terrell.

1000
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: Prior our last game, the New Orleans Saints head to St.

1001
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Louis to face the Rams. Greg, the Rams, I feel

1002
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: like this could be a close game. Am I crazy?

1003
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: I think you are. Even though the Rams have been

1004
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: much better at home, it's in the Dome. The Saints

1005
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: are peaking every week. The Rams just try to find

1006
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: a way to make Kelln Clemens less a part of

1007
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: the game. That Tavon Austen might be playing quarterback this year,

1008
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard to beat the Saints if you

1009
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: can't throw the ball at all. I think the Saints

1010
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: go in there with a head of steam and stop.

1011
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: Greg is feeling wicked good because his a team is

1012
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: the Patriots in his pocket fandom team, and the Saints

1013
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: was that rooting for last Sunday Night. The Panthers are

1014
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: the team of around the league. As I said, it's

1015
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: nice when you can take your pocket fandom team and

1016
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna jump off and root for another team

1017
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: this week against the team that is my second favorite team.

1018
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: You're just rolling in luck. Two teams going to the plan.

1019
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: I went to College in New Orleans. A lot of affection.

1020
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: When once Tracy Porter ran that thing back and I

1021
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: was there for that was a great moment, and they

1022
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: won that that kind of ended That kind of ended

1023
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: it with the same thing. That was enough. I mean

1024
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: I like him. That's cold. That was fun. You had

1025
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: a one night stand with the Saints and didn't call

1026
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: him back the next morning. That's awful cold. That's because

1027
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: Gregg is constantly dropping his phone and like bowls of

1028
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: water and things. You know. Two weeks ago, I thought

1029
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: the Saints would be in trouble in this game. But

1030
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 1: the Rams offense really hasn't done much. Zack Stacy hasn't

1031
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: played well the last couple of weeks. Like you said,

1032
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: they're trying to hide Clemens in so many different ways.

1033
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: He took a beating last week too. I don't think

1034
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: he wants to play too much longer. I don't think

1035
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: the Rams are playing with as much physicality as they

1036
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: were when they were given the Seahawks and good games. Alright,

1037
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: that's it for the week fifteen schedule. Well, we will

1038
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: of course be back Sunday. We will go over all

1039
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: the games. Will Kevin Patrick be here, I will be here. Well, man,

1040
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: there's so much buzz. Everyone's excited. Um one thing, one

1041
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: plug that k Rich had tweeted out. Uh, the Stitcher Awards.

1042
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what Stitcher is, however I know it is.

1043
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: What I do know of it is that is some

1044
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: type of device that allows humans to hear our podcast.

1045
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: It's an app. You can get it on your iPad

1046
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: or your iPhone and it's basically just a podcast manager.

1047
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: Oh good, Well that's a great explanation. People should do

1048
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: is download us on Stitcher and on iTunes, so that's

1049
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: double the downloads. Yes, that is selfish. That is a

1050
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: great point. However, that is not my point of bringing

1051
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: up Stitcher. The Stitcher Awards two thou thirteen are here,

1052
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 1: and all the listeners of the Around the League podcast,

1053
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: we would love if you went onto their website and

1054
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: nominated us for awards. I would think there's some categories here,

1055
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: best overall show, best news show, big sports commentary, best

1056
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: looking host, best looking host. While that one's already in

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Speaker 1: the bag, obviously, what I what I really want is

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Speaker 1: a Titanic situation where we just clean out every award

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Speaker 1: and Hubris just explodes out of here like the Red

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Speaker 1: Blood in the Shining through the Elevator show. So people

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Speaker 1: just need to download this like technological bundle bundle onto

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Speaker 1: their iPhones, sort through it and find this award thing.

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Speaker 1: Is there an award for best double Titanic slash Shining

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Speaker 1: movie reference at the same sentence. So if you go

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Speaker 1: to stitcher dot com, uh, you'll there's a link right

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Speaker 1: on the top for the awards. You click in uh,

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Speaker 1: and then I guess nominate us. This is where k

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Speaker 1: Rich can help us on Sunday with more details. This

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Speaker 1: is a little haphazard, and Zach, we don't we don't

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Speaker 1: expect you to have this type of knowledge at this point.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad your expectations are set where they should be.

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Speaker 1: All right, So that's it for today's podcast. We will

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Speaker 1: be back Sunday. As I said, until then, this is

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Speaker 1: Dan hand the signing off for the Mailman, the Sizzler,

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Speaker 1: the Boss, Uh, Kevin Patra, thank you, Zack behind the

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Speaker 1: class nickname Tron Grizzly Adams. Maybe reading some Patrick nicknames

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Speaker 1: I do that. Check out Patra's headshot on his post

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Speaker 1: come up with something particularly mean. Spirit gentleman called you

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Speaker 1: a handsome devil. I don't blame that guy Man. A

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Speaker 1: lot of high confidence levels in this room. A bunch

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Speaker 1: of sixes are on myself, including so let's let's get

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Speaker 1: out of here until Sunday