1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class from works 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: dot Com. Hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm Colly Fry, 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: I'm Tracy. Welcome and welcome to part two of our 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: two part episode on and Tony Goudy. As we left 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: off in part one, Goudy had graduated from architecture school, 6 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: and he had started his own firm, and he had 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: just had a really successful showing of projects at the 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: Paris World's Fair in eight and now we're going to 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: jump right into where his career kind of starts to 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: really take off. From that point, Goudy was given numerous 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: opportunities to work on all kinds of projects. Immediately following 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: the World's Fair. He also took on an added responsibility. 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: He became the guardian of his niece Rosa. After his 14 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: sister died. Rosa was sent to the Haysus Maria Convent 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: in Tarragona. Yeah, so at that point that was pretty 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: much all that was left of the family. That I 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: had mentioned in the previous episode that even though he 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: had four siblings, uh, they all passed away quite young 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: and so at this and his mother had also died, 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: so at this point it was just him, his father 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: and then his niece left and in late eighteen seventy nine, 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: Gouty joined the Catalan Association of Scientific Excursions and this 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: served as sort of a social and cultural network and 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: it arranged tours of sites of Catalan historical significance. And 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: this group was still quite a young organization. It was 26 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: formed in eighteen seventy six as part of a movement 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: to revive the culture of Catalonia. I feel like we 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: could do a whole other podcast on Catalan nationalism and 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: the history of Catalonia, and we may at some point, 30 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: but there are some pretty complex elements to discuss there, 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: and even events that reach into very recent history, like 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: as recently as last year, there was some pretty interesting 33 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: discussion going on there. Uh So, because Gouty's sort of 34 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: life story is a very rich one, we're gonna go 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: a little glossy here and not talk a whole lot 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: about the politics um that that he was to some 37 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: degree involved in. We mentioned in the previous episode that 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: he was definitely still really tied to his Catalan roots 39 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: in his uh his hometown and sort of the working 40 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: class and that carries through. But no that you know, 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: I want to acknowledge that there was this political stuff 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: going on, Uh, but that we're not going to dig 43 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: super deep into it just for the because beyond the 44 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: scope of what's already a two part podcasts on one man. 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: So that's the scoop on that. Uh, we're kind of 46 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: glossing over a lot of stuff quickly here. In eight 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: the architect was asked to serve as keeper of the 48 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: group's archaeological museum, and he accepted. He was very proud 49 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: of his Catalan upbringing, and from that point he frequently 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: went on excursions with the association. Yeah, if you look 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: at like a timeline of his life, it's like there's 52 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: this constant and then they went here, and then they 53 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: went here. It's sort of populates, you know, throughout any 54 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: historical account on what he was doing. He was always 55 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: involved with them going forward. In eighteen eighty one and 56 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: Tony Goudy became a member of the Association of Architects 57 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: of Catalonia and he was sponsored in his entry into 58 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: that organization by architect Camille oliverz Iginsana. During this time 59 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: he also started collaborating with another architect, Juan Martorella, and 60 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: he was nineteen years older than Goudy, who was already 61 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: established at this point in his career. He took on 62 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: the role of mentor to the younger architect, who served 63 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: as sort of a trusted assistant, and eventually Goudy's association 64 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: with Martre would lead to the project that is perhaps 65 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: the most famous, and that is the Sacarada Familia or 66 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: Basilica and Exputory Church of the Holy Family. This was 67 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: an incredibly high profile project. It is a huge Roman 68 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: Catholic church that had already begun construction in eighteen eighty 69 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: two under the leadership of Francisco de Paula del Villar, 70 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: who we mentioned in the previous episode. He had been 71 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: one of Goudy's professors in school. After a disagreement with 72 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: the council responsible for the construction, and more specifically Martarey, 73 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: who was a council member, del vir resigned for the project. 74 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: He left it completely unhelmed, and initially the job of 75 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: taking it back over was offered to Martori, but he 76 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: declined and he suggested that gou do you take it instead, 77 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: and so Gaudy became the lead on the project in 78 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: November of eighteen eighty three. Although his role wasn't actually 79 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 1: made official for several months. I think it was March 80 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: of eighteen eighty four when he's legally and completely like 81 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: associated as leadership over the project. And he would continue 82 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: working on this church for the rest of his life. 83 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: And as he worked on it, it seemed his religious 84 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: devotion continued to deepen. Uh he became progressively more religious 85 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: the longer he worked on this one specific piece, so 86 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: much so that in ninety four, so at that point 87 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: he had been working on it for more than a decade, 88 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: he went on a fast for lent that was so 89 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: severe he nearly died. Had a trusted priest not eventually 90 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: kind of intervened and convinced him to break this fast 91 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: for his own good and the good of all of 92 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 1: his projects, he likely would not have survived. Another major 93 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: event in Gowdey's life also happened in the early half 94 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: of the eighteen eighties. We don't really know a lot 95 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: about any romantic involvements on Gouty's part, but he did 96 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: propose to a teacher at the Cooperativa Mataro Nints. Her 97 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: name was Pepeta Moreau, and this was a four. He 98 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: didn't get the answer that he had hoped for though 99 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: she was already engaged, and so she rejected Goudy. She 100 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,119 Speaker 1: wound up getting married to her intended several years later, 101 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: and Goudy never got married. Yeah, most accounts say that 102 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: at that point he pretty much gave up on on 103 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: romance of any kind. It's really unusual in that when 104 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: you look at historical figures where there's not a lot 105 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: of story about their romantic involvement. There's often lots of like, 106 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: but really everyone thinks that they were kind of into 107 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 1: this person or that, or they had a secret flight. 108 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: There's like nothing, like, there's no account. They're like a 109 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: couple of people he may have met with, but it's 110 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: really pretty uh so low life from that point on. 111 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about his work on Segarrada 112 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: Familia but also a lot of the other projects that 113 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 1: he had going on simultaneously in just a minute. But first, 114 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: would you like to do a quick word from a sponsor? 115 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: Sure thing. So, while the Sagarada Familia was a huge 116 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: opportunity and a massive project, it was not the only 117 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: item that was on Gouty's architectural plate in the eighteen eighties. 118 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: He was also commissioned to work on several houses for 119 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: prominent people of Barcelona, and he was so busy that 120 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: he began to delegate management of some of his projects 121 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: to one of his former university classmates. From a teen 122 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: eight three on, Gouty stayed incredibly busy. In March of 123 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: eighteen eighty five, the first of his contributions to the 124 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: Sagrada Familia was dedicated. This was the Chapel of St. Joseph. 125 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: And one of the other really big projects that he 126 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: worked on, which was at the turn of the century, 127 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: was the Park Duel, and this was commissioned by his 128 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: friend Usebiguel. This particular project was an environmentally aware garden 129 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: city development and it consisted of a plan for five 130 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: dozen homes intended as luxury living spaces for upper upper 131 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: middle class dwellers, as well as the loads of green space. 132 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: It really is a park and community areas and a chapel. 133 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: Once the Park's model home was completed, there weren't any 134 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: interested buyers, so Gouty purchased the home himself and he 135 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: moved in with his father and his niece, which at 136 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: that point where his only remaining family. The kind of 137 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: weird irony is that this house was not even designed 138 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: by Goudy. He DESI a lot of Park guill but 139 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: his colleague Frances Benguare was the person who actually designed 140 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: that particular house. Including Gouty's, only three families ever lived 141 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: at Park Guel, you Sebiguel, and lawyer Marteters Dominant also 142 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: lived in homes in the park grounds for a brief time. Yeah, 143 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: there were two uh homes that were built as part 144 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: of this project, and then a previously existing house there. 145 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: And the previously existing houses the one where Guel moved 146 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: into and this lawyer had taken the other model home, 147 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: so that was the only people uh. And just a 148 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: few months after they moved into this new home, Gouty's 149 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: father actually died, and from then until nineteen eleven, it 150 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: seemed like Gouty just continued his work with a constant 151 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: stream of projects. Like work pretty much became his entire life. 152 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: Things changed in nineteen eleven when he contracted Maltese fever 153 00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: also called Malta fever or more accurately, brucellosis. This is 154 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: a contagious bacterial infection that's contracted by direct skin contact 155 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: with thick cattle or sheep or goats, pigs or dogs, 156 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: or consuming contaminated milk or meat from these animals. Yeah, 157 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: I never found anything conclusive about how he actually contracted it. 158 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: We know that he was not a meat eater, so 159 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he uh what his his restrictions 160 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: in his vegetarianism were, if he drank milk, or if 161 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: he just had contact with an animal, or if anybody 162 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: really knows kind of how he became ill. But brucellosis 163 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: symptoms include fever, you could sweats, headaches, muscle and joint pain, 164 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: and if you experience a prolonged bout of it, it 165 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: causes depression and chronic fatigue. And so when Gudy became 166 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: ill in nineteen eleven, he had a persistent case and 167 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: he was convinced he was going to die. And remember 168 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: he had rheumatism from a young age, so he already 169 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: had sort of a base level of joint pain. So 170 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: it's in really likely that his body aches at this 171 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: point were excruciating. So even though the death rate from 172 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: brucellosis is actually quite low, I can see where someone 173 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: in that deep level of pain thinks they're coming to 174 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: the end. And at that point he made out his 175 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: will he did. However, eventually recover from this illness. In 176 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: the years immediately after his illness, Gaudy's life was really 177 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: plagued by tragedy. In nineteen twelve, his niece Rosa, who 178 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: at that point was his last remaining family, died. In 179 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: nineteen fourteen, one of his favorite collaborators and friends, Francesc Berengar, 180 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: who we spoke about earlier, also died. Berengar's death was 181 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: a huge blow. Goudy said to his widow, you have 182 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: lost your husband, but I have lost my right hand. 183 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: Also in nineteen fourteen, he found himself in a bit 184 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: of a legal battle. Uh he had the Superla and 185 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: this is a client for whom he had built one 186 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: of his other famous pieces, Kasa Vila, in order to 187 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: wrest payment from him, and the court did in favor 188 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: of Gouty, and once he had received the settlement, he 189 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: actually donated all the money to the Jesuit community. So 190 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: it seems as though he didn't really need it. He 191 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: just wanted things to be done, like he just wanted 192 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: the agreement to be upheld. And in nineteen sixteen, the 193 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: Archbishop of vic with whom he was very close friends, died, 194 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: and then two years later His patron and closest friend, Useppeguel, 195 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: also passed away begetting in nineteen fourteen. Gouty dedicated the 196 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: remainder of his days to working on the Sagrata Familia, 197 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: and as he aged and he dealt with his grief 198 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: from all of these losses, he really focused entirely on 199 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: his work on the church. Uh. He kind of dabbled 200 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: in some potential other projects, but they never came to fruition, 201 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: and he really was all about finishing this church. And 202 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: he also kind of stopped being that dandy that he 203 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: had been, you know, when he first started out in 204 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: his career. He seemed to lose all interest in his appearance. 205 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: And by the time he moved into a studio that 206 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: he had set up at the Sagrada fam Media so 207 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: that he could basically be there around the clock and 208 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: be working at all hours, he was almost indiscernible from 209 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: a vagabond, and unfortunately, his shabby appearance would prove to 210 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: be disastrous. On June seven, Goudy told one of the 211 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: construction workers, at the end of the work day, come 212 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: bright and early tomorrow, because they're going to do some 213 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: beautiful things. They went out for his usual evening walk, 214 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: he was struck by the city's number thirty tram while 215 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: he was at an intersection. Because of his appearance being 216 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: so unkempt, nobody recognized him as the celebrated architect of Barcelona, 217 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: and so no one stopped to help what they thought 218 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: was a homeless man. Yeah, I saw one brief blur, 219 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: but I couldn't find substantiation on it. That eventually um 220 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: the municipal police actually find several taxi drivers for not 221 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: having assisted a person that was clearly in distress. He 222 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: was eventually taken to a hospital. He was basically taken 223 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: to a popper's hospital, but at that point he was 224 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: still believed to be a vagabond, and he was given 225 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: subpar medical treatment, and unfortunately, by the time he was 226 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: recognized by friends who had been trying to find him, 227 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: it was too late for better, better medical care to 228 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: offer any real help, and so three days after his 229 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: accident he died on June tenth. Of Barcelona mourned him 230 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: on mass and after the funeral on June twelve, his 231 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: body was buried in a crypt at the unfinished Sagrada Familia. 232 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: The magnificent structure was less than half completed, despite the 233 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: decades of work that Gouty had poured into it. He'd 234 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: known for a really long time that he would not 235 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: live to complete the project, but he really wanted to 236 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: have as much of it as possible done in his lifetime. Yeah. 237 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: I actually read that it was like in the teens 238 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: of percentage of completion when he died, So there was 239 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: really a very long way to go. Uh. And next, 240 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: we're going to talk a little bit more about some 241 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: of Goudy's most important projects. But before we do, uh, 242 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: do you want to pause for a sponsor break. Let's 243 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: do that alright, So back to talking about Gowdy's work. 244 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: I honestly feel like even though we have talked and 245 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: talked and talked about Gowdy's life, we still left an 246 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: awful lot out. He did a lot of things. He 247 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: worked on so many projects. And I was actually bemoaning 248 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: this to a friend of mine via text as I 249 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: was writing up these notes. I was like, there's no 250 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: way we can include everything and not make this like 251 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: a ten hour thing that's just a list of things 252 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: he worked on. And she was like, well, like, what 253 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: would happen if somebody tried to do your life? And 254 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: talk about like everything you've ever sewed, And I was like, okay, 255 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: fair enough, but we have to now kind of devote 256 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: some time to talking about his work in greater detail. 257 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: So seven of his projects are on the UNESCO World 258 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: Heritage List. That is the most astonishing part of this 259 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: whole thing to me, Like, right, the things, even the 260 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: things that are on the UNESCO World Heritage Lists are 261 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: just so monumental and so critically important to the culture 262 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: of the area that they're in seven of them. So 263 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: the UNESCO World Heritage sites are Parc Guell, Pelasio Guel, 264 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: Casa Mila, Casa VI, sins Cassa Batio, the crypt in 265 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: Colonia Guel, and his work on the Nativity Facade and 266 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: the crypt of Lesta Grata Familia. So you really can't 267 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: notice or can't help but notice that a lot of 268 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: these contain the name of his brand and benefactor, Guill. 269 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, we're gonna talk about a few of them. 270 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: Were not. Like I said, we can't go on for 271 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: hours and hours, so we will not go into detail 272 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: on every one of these UNESCO World Heritage Sites, but 273 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna start a bit talking about Park Guel. And 274 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: it's a project on the list, we probably spoke the 275 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: most about leading in the course of his sort of 276 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: life story, and that was because you're trying to set 277 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: up kind of the lead up to mentioning his father's 278 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: death after they had moved into the park, and this 279 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: property became city property in nine after it had clearly 280 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: failed as a neighborhood development, and it is now a 281 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: public park. And if you look at any travel brochure 282 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: for Barcelona, Park Guel is included as a must see. 283 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: There's a really beautiful playfulness to the design in the 284 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: way that it uses the naturally occurring shapes of the 285 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: landscape to create o their structures and sort of visual shapes. 286 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: If you've ever seen that, there's a photo of this 287 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: mosaic tile salamander in Barcelona that's sort of famous. Uh. 288 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: That is part of Park Guel. And the house that 289 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: Gouty lived in at Park Guell, designed by his friend 290 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: and colleague Francisk Berenger, is now the Gouty House Museum, 291 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: and you can actually do a virtual online visit of 292 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: the museum, including the gardens. It is really quite well 293 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: done and we will put a link to that in 294 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: the show notes. Cassav Sends was Gouty's first independent design, 295 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: so it was his first time working without a collaborator. 296 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: This Residents broke ground in eighteen eighty three and it 297 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: was completed in eighteen eighty eight, although it was expanded 298 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: in the twenties by Sarah Martinez, who consulted with Gaudy. 299 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: The combination of brick work, valencia tile, and wrought iron 300 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: is really executed with just incredible precision. What could completely 301 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: look like a big mess is a harmonious design. There's 302 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: an incredible checkerboard detailing on the exterior that makes it 303 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: both visually engaging, engaging and instantly recognizable as a building. Yeah. 304 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: I have never seen it in person, but looking at 305 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: photos of it, it made me think about, like we 306 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: have all seen that one house in any given neighborhood 307 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: where the people tend to keep adding weird stuff on. 308 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: This had the potential to be that. I mean, it's 309 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: got so many seemingly disparate elements, but they all are 310 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: just so beautifully orchestrated together that it doesn't look like, well, 311 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: that's a crazy house. It's very striking and it may 312 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: not be a style that's for everyone, but it doesn't 313 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: look like a crazy mess. It really is clearly designed. Uh. 314 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: Casa Batio is probably one of two of Goudy's projects 315 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: that almost every single person has at least seen a 316 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: photograph of. Uh. This is a design that when people 317 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: see it that don't sort of know the background on it, 318 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: they often comment that it looks a little bit like 319 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: something that hr Geeger would have created. The facade has 320 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: this combination of mosaic tiling and stonework that begins to 321 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: resemble skeletal bones, and I think it's nickname, uh, there 322 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: is actually house of bones, and the interior carries that 323 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: exact same vibe. It's really spectacular. It feels both organic 324 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: and completely and carefully designed. Casa Batio represents a real 325 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: shift in Gauty's work. He divorced conventional design in a 326 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: lot of ways in the early nine hundreds and really 327 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: developed this equilibrated structural style. This design approach focuses on 328 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: building structures but are self supporting. They require neither internal 329 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: bracing nor external buttressing. And Kazamina also known as La padrera, 330 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: which is the stone quarry, is also emblematic of this style, 331 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: and that's also the one that he had the legal 332 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: battle over being paid for, and when Kazamila was first unveiled, 333 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: it was kind of skewered in the press. There was 334 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: some support for it, but there was a lot of 335 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 1: mockery of it. There were cartoonists that drew it with 336 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: a lot of insulting variations, as like a dirigible parking garage. 337 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: They drew it with cannons poking out of every window, 338 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: as like a cave that was full of animals. One 339 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: did it as an easter cake. Uh, and it was 340 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, it was controversial. As I said, it was 341 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: the last private commission that Goudi ever received from anyone 342 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: other than his friend Guel. And eventually a bank purchased 343 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: Kazamila in nineteen six and restored it, and they took 344 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: great pains to restore it to its original design scheme 345 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: and it is now a museum that you can go visit. 346 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: The big legacy, which is the Church of Sagratta Familia, 347 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: is based on a Latin cross. As we mentioned when 348 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: discussing how Gouty came to work on this particular project, 349 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: it was originally started under the direction of architect Francesca 350 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: Paula dea Villar and he had a design of the 351 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: project in a Gothic revival style. When Gouty took over 352 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: in eighteen eighty three, he made really significant changes to 353 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: the plan. His progress on this amazing work of art 354 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: really happened in stages. The crypt was built over the 355 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: years of eighteen eighty four to eighteen eighty nine. The 356 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: Nativity facade was completed in nineteen o five. The four 357 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: bell towers were built and completed between ninety five and 358 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty. The transcept elevation of the passion didn't start 359 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: until nineteen Sixtyes, so thirty six years after Gouty's death. 360 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: This church is actually still not finished. Yeah. After Gouty died, 361 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: work on Sagratta Familia sputtered. It was derailed by financial 362 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: issue used in the Spanish Civil War. And we mentioned 363 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: when we talked about his devotion to it kind of 364 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: towards the end of his life and how little of 365 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: it had actually been completed, that he knew it wasn't 366 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: gonna get finished while he was still alive, but he 367 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: was just trying to lay the design groundwork and make 368 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: sure that all of the plans were in place that 369 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: it could continue. But that was a problem. Uh. There 370 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: was some noise made about a revival effort in terms 371 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: of construction to coincide with the hundredth anniversary of Gouty's birth, 372 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: but nothing really came to fruition. That date came and went. 373 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: As it stands now, the church is expected to be 374 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: completed in marking a hundred years since Gouty's untimely death. 375 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: When the church has finished, it will have eighteen towers, 376 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: twelve dedicated to the apostles, for to the evangelists, one 377 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: to Jesus and another to marry. Yeah. So the exciting 378 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: thing is we will hopefully get to see it completed 379 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: in our lifetimes, uh, provided nothing bad happens. But it's 380 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: so beautiful even as it stands un finished. It's one 381 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: of those things where you'll see pictures of it and 382 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: it looks really amazing, but they're always cranes everywhere around it. 383 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: So uh, hopefully we'll get to see it in its 384 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: full glory because it is really really beautiful. And if 385 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: you would like to look at it, you can actually 386 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: do a virtual tour of Sagratta Familia online as well, 387 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: and that includes really detailed you can really like zoom 388 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: right in on it of Goudy's tomb, and we will 389 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: link again to that one in the show notes as well. 390 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: In three the Createst Museum was established and a space 391 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: was reserved for Goudy as one of the most important 392 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: artists of his hometown. Uh The year two thousand two 393 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: was deemed the Year of Gouty in Barcelona, and that 394 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: was to honor his hundred and fiftieth birthday. Celebration events 395 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: included sort of a surge of construction on the Sagratta 396 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: Familia as well as the Park Guel because there were 397 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: still some elements of it that were not completed, and 398 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: an educational campaign around his life and work. In two 399 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: thousands three, a campaign started to have Gouty named as 400 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: a saint by the Vatican. The Archbishop of Barcelona at 401 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: the time gathered an assortment of documentation to try to 402 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: make the case. The primary example offered to show the 403 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: architect's worthiness of the honor is this beautiful and inspiring 404 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: design of the Sagratta Familia. Advocates feel like his work 405 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: is beautiful enough to convert unbelievers, and testimonials given by 406 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: Catholics converted by their exposure to Gauty's architecture were given 407 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: in Rome in early two thousand three the Gouty Beatification Society, 408 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: which is a movement that numbered more than eighty thousand 409 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: members ten years ago. I didn't see any updated numbers 410 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: for them already believe in Gouty's divinity, and they actually 411 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: pray to him as an instrument of God, as one 412 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: would to any other saint if you are so inclined. 413 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: The members of this society feel that the magnificence of 414 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: the Sagratta Familia is evidence enough that divine inspiration was 415 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: at playing Gouty's work. That could not just be a 416 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: matter of a human designing something. There had to be 417 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: some divine element to it. And as the group, H 418 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: and other interested parties were still campaigning for sthood for Dowdy. 419 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: So if it is granted, it's still on the table. 420 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: I believe he will be the first architect to be canonized. 421 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: As far as how the man himself talked about the 422 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: inspiration for his work, he said, nothing is invented, for 423 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: it's written in nature. First, we've talked about him for 424 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: two episodes. I still feel like we kind of scratched 425 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: the surface well, and I know, it's always difficult anytime 426 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: we have a subject that has a lot of visual elements, 427 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: whether it's an artist or like a choreographer or whatever, 428 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: where there's a lot to look at. Yeah, Like, I 429 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: never want to just skip all the episodes that are 430 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: like that, because that's a lot of the world. But 431 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: we know it's challenging, which is why we'll be talking 432 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: about our pinterest a lot. We'll have lots of links 433 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: and show notes to where you can actually look at 434 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: this stuff, um and see what we look at and 435 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: why it's amazing. Yeah. It was actually looking at reviews 436 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: for a biography about him while I was doing research, 437 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: and one of the things that people kept saying was 438 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: like they don't describe enough of his work. They're just 439 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: talking about what he did and like the politics, and 440 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: I want to hear about what the buildings are like. 441 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is a really hard thing to balance, 442 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: Like I certainly want to meet expectations, but and part 443 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: of it too, is his work is so mind blowing. 444 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: I run out of the appropriate adjectives that can adequately 445 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: convey It's like we should, uh, we should distribute this 446 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: podcast with like a coffee table book. Yes, and it's 447 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: one of those things and look up anybody, Like there 448 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: were several travel journalists that I looked at their accounts 449 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: of like the first time that they saw a gouty 450 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: building in person, or they stood in a gouty building, 451 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: and they're all just like I was a dog. I 452 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: don't know what to say about it. It was mind blowing. 453 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: So so, like we said, Pinterest going to be really busy. 454 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: You also have some listener mail. I do, and I 455 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: almost feel bad because I'm reading another one about the 456 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: eggnog riot, but we had some really interesting ones and 457 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: ones that we're not covering the same information, so I'm 458 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: going ahead. This one is from our listener Kirsten, and 459 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: she writes, Hi, Tracy and Holly, I'm catching up on 460 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: your Christmas podcast episodes and I just finished listening to 461 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: your Eggnog riot episode. You both marveled at the amount 462 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: of alcohol and eggnog, and it is indeed the case 463 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: that eggnon can be very boozy. One reason is that 464 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: eggnog was often made well in advance of the Christmas 465 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: season and then was stored and aged until the holidays, 466 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: so the alcohol works to kill any potential bacterial nasties 467 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: which may develop in the eggs, and leaving it to 468 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: age also dramatically improves the flavor and lets the alcohol 469 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: blend better with the other ingredients. She links us to 470 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: a recipe that she used, and she says, I am 471 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: not organized or patient enough to age eggnog for three years, 472 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: but I usually try to give mine a good six 473 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: months of aging before drinking, so I make it in 474 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: June or July for Christmas. I can confirm the thenog 475 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: does indeed stay bacteria free, even if not kept in 476 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: the fridge, and it is a delicious way to enjoy Christmas. 477 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: She and her husband listen to the podcast on the 478 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: way to work, so I kind of love that that 479 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: that's something they share, So thank you, Kirsten. That didn't 480 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: even occur to me. But it makes perfect sense. It 481 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: doesn't make perfect sense. And what's kind of weirdly ironic, 482 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: maybe not exactly ironic, was I think after we recorded this, 483 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: but before it came out, there was an episode of 484 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: Judge John Hodgeman that was all kinds of holiday related 485 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: stuff and it included this whole thing about eggnog and 486 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: how John Hodgman believed store bought eggnog to be disgusting. 487 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: And he got into this whole thing about Alton Brown 488 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: having a recipe for eggnog that uses lots of alcohol, 489 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: with part of the reason being the alcohol killing the bacteria. 490 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, I never really thought of that before. 491 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: Does that really work? If Alton Brown says so, then 492 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: it must be. It must be because that's his whole deal. 493 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: Like with my brother got salmonella as a child, which 494 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: he did not get from raw that that is a 495 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: place that you can get salmonella. And from that point on, 496 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: my mom was so hyper vigilant about raw eggs uh that, like, 497 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: I still when I am looking at the store, bought 498 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: eggnog that John Hydeman finds to be disgusting. Um, I'm 499 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: always making sure it's pasteurized. So I'm glad to know 500 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: there are alternate methods of making safe eggnog. That I 501 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: think your mom might have been terrified of my house 502 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: growing up, That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I had a 503 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: grandmother who was, you know, when we visited her French background, 504 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: very open to tartars and raw things, and and you know, 505 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: they both of my parents grew up on farms, so 506 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: they were very used to like get the egg from 507 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: the chicken and make a thing with it, and it 508 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: wasn't a big right, which is probably why I have 509 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: an almost cast iron stomach. Need to polish it with 510 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: something only slightly dangerous once in a while. Uh. 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