WEBVTT - Avengers ASSemble (feat. Joel Kim Booster) 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:05.920 Me and my boyfriend were literally holding each other all week. 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:08.719 We couldn't stop talking about waiting to see this one 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:11.600 moment from the trailer that we were obsessed with. And 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:16.080 it is, of course Selma Hiak saying tanos, and then 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:18.799 they re dubbed it and now in the movie she 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:31.400 says than os. I know, I'm as Marvel has such 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.960 a special place in my heart, friend, because this time 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:39.279 last year, my only social interaction was every week was 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.960 going over to your apartment to watch One Division. Yeah, 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.440 we had nothing, truly nothing else to live for at 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:47.720 that stage in our lives. And I really feel like 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:50.880 wand Division was the thing to make me care about 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.360 the rest of the m c U. And so I 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:55.760 was like, Hm, what did these Avengers like? What's there? 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.400 What's their story? I do think it kind of pulled 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.440 everyone back into the see you in a way because 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.720 it was like one of those rare Marvel things that 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:08.839 like people who like don't usually watch that kind of stuff. 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:12.559 We're watching it and you know, like the ubiquitous nous 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:16.280 of it. I'm like Agatha all along, and it was 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.600 the moment exactly. I do feel also that there is 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.360 like there was a compelling humanity to like Wanda that 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.800 helped me start to see what was so amazing about 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.240 all the other members of the n c U. And 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.920 like maybe for the virgins at home that are turning 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.640 on this episode and being like a Marvel I'm just 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.280 like not prippy to like whatever the funk this is. 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.959 I encourage you as someone who is kind of that person, 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.680 because I'm never paying attention honestly during Marvel movies. As 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:47.240 much as the post credits kind of entwined narratives of 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.040 all of the twenty seven of these movies is very overwhelming, 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.840 it actually is not as complicated as you think if 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:57.600 you get as invested in the kind of emotions and 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.200 characters as you do for watching, or if you have 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.200 Marvel stands to talk through it with you like we 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.240 do today because Jolk and Booster is here to talk 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.960 about Marvel with us and a very irreverent but like 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:15.320 also like serious and analytical way, because this is like 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.360 a virgin the show where we give yesterday's pop culture 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:22.160 today's takes. I'm Rose damn you, and I'm Fran Toronto. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.800 And before we go into the multiverse of madness, let's 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:30.000 talk about what's going on in today's pop culture. Absolutely, 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:38.120 she lived, she served, kunt she died, and of course 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:43.680 the she we are talking about is the Green Eminem. 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.040 May she rest in peace, May she rest in power, 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:50.120 May she rest in power, the Green I can't believe 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:55.400 they deascified the Green Eminem. Honestly dsified. And I have 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.960 been told for at least a year now that the 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.000 Green Eminem is canonically trans Have you ever come across 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.640 this conversation on the internet. Yeah, I used to see 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:09.240 her in line at Colin lord Um. I feel like 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:14.840 Eminem's caught wind of this internet conversation and usurped it 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:19.920 for recuperations on a deteriorating brand. Why did they have 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:24.080 to take away her tabby boots? We need an eminem 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:28.800 who eats us. If anybody doesn't know, there was like 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:33.040 basically a press release of some kind sent out last tweet. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:37.320 It was a tweet that showed a picture of the Eminem's, 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.800 all of the different Eminem's, saying that they're globally rebranded 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.520 for a more inclusive era. They grabbed Chad as this 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:48.080 woke button and hit it. They didn't hit the sleigh button. 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.880 They hit the woke button. They hit it hard. A 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.120 couple of times. Yeah. So people were quick to point 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.680 out that Mars, the overall company, is in a child 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.920 slavery lawsuit. Um, and so this is all of smoke 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:05.520 screen distract people, purportedly all of smoke screen because they've 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.920 been profiting off of like eleven year olds who work 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.920 on cocoa farms in the Ivory Coast without pay for years. 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:15.120 I believe it. I will believe any conspiracy. Yeah. Same, 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:18.560 and like unfortunate have to say it, our girl Tucker 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:23.120 Carlson felt to type away about these eminem's And obviously 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.880 Tucker Carlson is like abhorrent and like obviously it's like 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.479 so gross because like the reason he's so mad is 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.680 because he wants so bad to like fuck an eminem 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:37.680 but he really does. But unfortunately he didn't make some 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.359 points and he has a right to make fun of 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.240 us as a culture. I think, Yeah, well, I don't 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.239 know that I want to be lumped in with us 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:51.159 that made under the eminem's. You know who asked for this? 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:53.840 I mean I did. I've been writing in every Day 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.640 Rose asking them to please please create a more inclusive 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.320 green ups. Did they hire you freelance to work on 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:09.239 the campaign brand where you did you consult is such 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:17.960 an accurate drag. I hate you, but you have done 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:22.240 a disservice to your community and you need to be 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.920 held accountable. You know. I don't want to talk about 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:26.520 it too much more, but I just have to say, 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.000 you know, in the same line of like when Oreos 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.839 tweeted that trans people exist, or like the we don't 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.000 stop it, the mixed potato head of it all, which 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.440 I think happens like the same week. And then, of 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.320 course there was Patty Harrison's iconic Twitter takeover of the 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:48.960 Nilo Wait First account. She said that she was Sia 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:54.160 doing a Twitter takeover, that there were only two gators, 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.680 which is notoriously how people get taken off Twitter. Yeah, 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.680 and she's verified, so it looks like it's real. She said, Hello, 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.520 I am Cia, the singer doing social media takeover for 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:07.440 Nila way First today there are only two genders. Then 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:12.279 she tweeted trans women are men. Then she quote tweeted 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.039 that and said, transphobia is never okay. Thank you for 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.640 holding us accountable. We are better than this. We strive 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.480 to learn and grow as a brand, and you make 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:24.159 that possible. I'm I'm gonna swing from the chandelier from 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:31.600 the chandelier. Cia. She did also tweet if you're bisexual, 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:36.360 we do not want your business, which, honestly fair. Wow, 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:41.039 that's extremely biphobic. Fran You know what I am biphobic? Well, 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:45.080 you know what. I'm fran phobic. Oh are you really? Yeah? 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.920 Specifically you not. Fran find is not included in this. 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:53.080 Oh I see, okay, what about fran Lebowitz. No comments. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.880 Speaking of fran Lebowitz, I have to say I watched 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.760 the Andre Leon Tally documentary over the weekend, which is 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.160 on HBO. Max. Fran is in it, I think for 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:07.680 like one interview, but the documentary as a whole is 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.760 like amazing. I strongly recommend you would actually love it. Rose. 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:12.960 Everyone listened to this podcast, would I don't like you 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.160 telling me that I'm going to love things? Yeah, and 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.000 I want to not like them out of spice that said, 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:21.800 you know, Andrelean Tali was like such an incredible person. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.840 He's like someone that I personally have admired for so long. 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.600 And did you read his book? No? I didn't, And 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.360 you know it's funny. Is I also very classic? Me 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.320 had no idea that he was a judge on America's 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.000 Next Top Model. He did really make the pop culture 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:42.280 rounds the last like decade of his life, maybe more 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.800 than a decade. Yeah, well, I mean when did the 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:46.600 Sex in the City movie come out? Was he in 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.080 the Sex in the City movie? Yeah? The first one 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:55.640 when Carrie is doing her Vogue Bridle shoot, He's sitting 0:07:55.960 --> 0:08:00.160 behind the cameras in full regalia. I didn't remember, so 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.480 I did so much weed. Anyways, my point is it's 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.760 a great introduction to the breadth of his work, so 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:07.840 definitely go check it out. Um, what did you watch 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.320 this weekend? Rose? Um? I had been seeing some tweets 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:16.680 about this new sitcom, Abbott Elementary that's on Hulu and 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.280 watched the four episodes that are out. It's so cute 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:25.520 and so funny. It's like Parks and rec style, like mockumentary, 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:29.560 you know, like The Office, and it's about teachers at 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:33.720 a public elementary school in Philly, like a school that's 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.960 really underfunded. And I have not laughed out loud like 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.280 that watching a TV show in a very long time. 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:44.520 It's so sweet and funny, kind of the same way 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.440 Parks and Wreck was, where it's like about good people 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:51.680 trying to do good things within a bad system. So 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.800 I really liked that. And then last night I watched 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:59.679 The Kill did Age on a trio. Max Fellows is 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:05.240 new period drama Julian Fellas, who created Downton Abbey. Oh wow, 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.439 I didn't realize it as him. Yeah. I mean, well, 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.800 that's why you know everyone was so excited about it 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.480 and that it has this pedigree because you know it's 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.480 by the creator of Downton Abbey, who is like the 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:24.600 king of campy period dramas currently. I it was pretty boring. Um. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.959 I did zone out for a lot of it. Some 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:32.360 good performances, you know. Love seeing the girls Christine Brand's case, 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:35.400 Cynthia Nixon. Um, I wonder how many episodes it will 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.480 take for Cynthia to get like a gender queer chimney 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:43.760 sweep under under her hoop skirt named commodore adeas. Yeah, 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:50.640 Harry Coon, who plays the like new rich woman who 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.080 is trying to like enter the world of old money. 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.280 I thought was very good. Um. And I also found 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.880 off that she was in one of the Avengers movies, 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.800 so that's we love to see the range. There was 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:05.680 gay stuff. I don't know if you made it to 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.880 the end. I mean, of course they're not going to 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.439 bring on to Cynthia without giving us some gay stuff. No, 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:18.560 it wasn't Cynthia was it was gay guys, gay guys. Okay, 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.120 I just have to say quickly. Unfortunately I started to 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.320 watch it after, you know, we were texting about it, 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.920 and I do not know if Christine Branski and our 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.679 girl Cynthia, as much as they're two of my favorite 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.320 people in Hollywood, are like not enough to get me 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:38.440 to watch what is like a very lukewarm period It's 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.280 not your kind of show. I'm not you are a 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.640 period drama girl. I know it takes a lot to 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:49.200 get me two things. These heights. Yeah, it digs a 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.680 lot for me to get there. But I would have 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.200 finished the episode if that guy that I sent you 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.600 the voice membo about didn't come over, And while I 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.360 was he came over. He did. He did come over. 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.200 Unfortunate for the too you that don't know there's this 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.679 guy that I slept with like over a year ago. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.280 Who who would be the ones who did? Know? Of 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:12.600 listeners people that listen to Food for Thought. So so 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.240 I forgot that you have another podcast. You forgot that 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:18.920 I'm cheating on you with with another podcast actually, like, actually, 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.199 you're cheating on them with me. You're the miss, I'm 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:25.880 the other woman. I love that. I love Obsessed. Um, 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.600 but the Obsessed starring Beyonce, which I've never seen and 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:32.560 we need to do an episode on soon. Yeah but anyways, Um. 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.319 The cliff notes on this guy, which no one cares about, 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.040 are just that it was like one of the worst 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.079 most media grew dates I've ever been on over a 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.600 year ago, and in the meantime he has slid into 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.400 my d M. S tas. That's the guy who ordered 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.559 Indian food to your house. This is the guy that 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:47.400 took me out and he was like, let's go get 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:51.680 Indian food, didn't ask me what I wanted. Yeah, girl, 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:56.960 he's really hot. He looks like so there's so many 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:01.719 hot men, like like like Disney cartoon Tarzan. He is 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.199 so hot. He's like the like manifestation of like so 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.200 many of like my erotic Okay, that's that's fine for 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.920 you to keep having sex with him, you just need 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.920 to do less. I made a decree last night, and 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:19.680 that is we're not douching anymore. We are doing the 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.719 bare minimum for our partners. If that they don't know 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.480 if they don't want us, if they don't want us hairy, 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.360 sweaty and full of ship, then they don't want us 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.400 at all. Yeah, fool me once, Shame on you fool 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.400 me twice. I can't read and I have no critical 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.480 thinking skills, so you know it would make sense that 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.400 you would fool me a second time. Like I said 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.720 to the children I used to nanny when I gave 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.560 them apples instead of cookies. You get what you get 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.680 and you don't get upset. And then after that I 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:52.320 would steal crates of pellegrino from their parents kitchen cupboard 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.160 and take them home before the parents got back to 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:58.120 the house. Look, you get what you get, you get, 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.480 you don't get upset. But it's so true because you 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.960 have free pellegrino. It's so true. And I wish I 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.240 had free pellogreno because last night I got buffed and puffed. 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:10.079 I douched for way too long. And let me tell you, 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.199 this guy was like three hours like I felt like 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:19.440 I was humiliated. Um, but yeah, it's humiliating. And let 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.520 me tell you, the year old gaze on the Gilded 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:27.120 Age were certainly not douching, and they were doing, but yes' 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.880 and sure they had like maids and like ballots and 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.520 stuff to clean up after them. They weren't, you know, 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:38.000 washing their own soiled sheets. But but we have made 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:44.720 do for centuries millennia without douching. Agreed. But that said, 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.600 he did leave at one am, and I was so 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:50.040 hungry that I drove and got my very first on 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.120 my own, my very first on my own fast food 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.959 drive through. I went to Wendy's. It was the only 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:58.960 thing that was not a Wendy's Girl, It was only 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:00.760 that was open near me. And I do love me 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.520 a spicy chicken club. I ate two of them, and 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.800 I'm paying for it this morning. Let me tell you 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:10.600 this has taken a turn. Um we have to touch 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:16.840 briefly maybe on this week's And just like that in 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:23.760 which Miranda finally left Steve for Ja Daz, which solidified 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.600 her status as the villain of and just like that 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.840 kind of yeah, like that's not even like cray perbole, 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.560 Like she really is off her rocker in a way 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.600 that is relatable. Like who among us has not in 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:40.160 a manic episode booked a flight to get some long 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:44.160 distance dick? I haven't you've never done? Would I would 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.640 never travel for a man, or or them or a woman. 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:52.720 I've traveled for anyone for a long distance at least twice, really, 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.800 at least twice. Maybe we need to free you of 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.000 the shackles of testosterone. Yeah, I mean I kind of 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:02.000 agree with that. But poor Steve, Poor Steve, Poor Steve. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.280 But you know what, like honestly, he will have a 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:10.160 new girlfriend in a week and Miranda will be left 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:15.280 by Chay in a couple of days. Yeah, it's it's true. 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:19.359 The scene between the two of them was so gorgeous. 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.320 I mean it was gorgeously lit. First of all, just 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:25.160 the lighting in this scene like draped behind them, this 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:29.320 like golden like aura of light in their breakup was 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.160 like so beautifully stage. I thought the conversation was so 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.800 well written. Like I know, we dragged like m p 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.440 K and everything that has gone down to the season, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.960 but I felt that the breakup really stuck the landing. 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:42.880 As hard as it was to watch, it was like 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:47.440 a very real because it leaned into Miranda being awful. 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:51.320 Yeah it did, it did. But like Steve's final plea 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.640 was perfect, It was exactly but it wasn't. But it 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.440 wasn't a plea, which is why I liked it. Yeah, 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.680 I've been fighting for us and I'm not going to anymore. 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.640 That's so t it's it's it's the thing that she 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.320 needed to hear. And I have a feeling that those 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.760 words she's not hearing them now, but they're going to 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:11.800 haunt her later, you know what I mean? Yeah, because 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.840 Jay is a fuck they and is going to break 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:19.800 her heart. So, as I mentioned earlier, I paid for 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.880 season fourteen of America's Next Top Model because I wanted 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.640 to watch Andre Leon tally season. I also have never 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.320 watched a full season of America's Next Top Model. You 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.880 need to go back and watch one of the earlier seasons. 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.600 So I'm going to start from one because I started 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:38.040 to watch fourteen. One is okay too? Is Oh my god. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:42.120 I'm definitely gonna Sandy if real ones no Shandy Jowanna. 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.680 The girls, the girls were girling. I know I'm going 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.920 to watch the first four or five seasons because Tiffany obviously, um, 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.200 but like, I have no regrets about my choice as 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.720 fourteen for an entry point, the array of girls they 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:58.360 have on this season. There's this girl named Brenda. She 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:02.200 says she's looking for biological father. She showed up on 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:06.440 her father's doorstep. Her father says, I'm not your dad 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:10.520 completely rejects her. She used that this happens on America's 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:12.960 next toime on America's Next Top Model, Like, does she 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.960 go to his house for ghost season? No, she and 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.800 she unless the help of her cop boyfriend to find 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:25.000 her biological father, which sounds illegal. Sally Hershberger chops fifteen 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.760 inches of hair off this girl into like a red 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.080 bob and she like cries through all of it. Oh 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.080 my god. The makeover episodes are always so good. There 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:35.760 used to be I don't know if it exists anymore. 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:39.760 A YouTube compilation that is just every makeover from America's 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.679 Next Top Model, all seasons. I'm sure I have to 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.080 watch that. I will sometimes go back and just watch 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.200 the makeover episodes from earlier seasons, or like, if I'm 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:49.879 trying to figure out if I want to watch a 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.280 certain season of Top Model, I will just watch episode three, 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:57.359 which is the makeover episode. It's the best. The things 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.840 Tyra did to these girls emotional terrible. Some I mean 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.240 we'll get into it in the episode. But with this season, specifically, 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:07.520 they chopped this girl's hair off and she like sobs uncontrollably, 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.639 and all the girls immediately start making fun of her 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.879 in the house. They say that she looks like Miranda 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.120 from Sex in the City. That's not an insult, it's 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.080 a compliment. But like the girl brandas like that her 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:23.320 my feelings. That's not nice, like because in this time 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.720 no one wanted to be the girls make fund and 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.000 then everyone wanted to be the Miranda, and now we've 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.520 swung back around to exactly one wants to be the Miranda. 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:36.840 Culture really is a full circle. The pendulum always swings back. 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.520 Speaking of which, this was the season where the girls 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:43.199 walked down a catwalk with a huge swinging pendulum that 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.080 hits them as they walked on the runway and amazing, 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:49.440 it's giving legends of the hidden Temple. She had very 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.120 Indiana jokes, But basically, this girl's real kuled so bad 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.600 that Sally Hershberger comes back to the house to cut 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.960 her hair again. I want to Sally Hershberger hair cut. 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.840 I mean it starts at like thousands of dollars. I'm sure, 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:05.719 Fran should I get bangs? I have told you that 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.480 you should get curtain bangs. I think it would be 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:10.040 very No. I got Curtain Banks last year. I'm not 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.879 doing it, Phoebe. Should I get bangs? Virgins? This is 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.000 your action item for this week. If you think I 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:29.480 should get bangs, tweeted us and let us know. So. 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:32.840 I tweeted something recently that made our guest Joel Kim 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.159 Booster side into my g M s to start a 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:40.760 fight because I tweeted that Captain America the Winter Soldier 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:45.360 is the gayest Marvel movie, and Joel, you disagree. Um, 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.240 it's not that necessarily that I disagree. It's that I 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:52.040 totally get it. Like the vibes between Bucket and Steve 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:56.199 Rodgers are like pretty like almost text like it's not 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:59.520 even subtexts, like it's there. I get that. Um, I 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:03.280 do think that, like in spirit though, there are gayer options, 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.080 like I think some of the Thorn movies are a 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:08.280 little bit gayer. Is there is there a specific one? 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:12.520 I think Ragnarok? I agree? I agree. I mean Kate 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:16.280 Blanchet's presence alone makes it one of the gayest, even 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.560 though the majority of her presence is like c G 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:22.280 I like, but everything else she does. But you were 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.199 saying that you don't like you didn't like Ragnarok and 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.400 you just like her performance in it. This is honestly, 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.520 I have like a middling reaction to a lot of 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:33.280 Marvel movies because I'm watching them in the wrong context. 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:36.200 So I try and watching Ragnarok on a plane, which 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.520 is just not It's not how I wanted to watch it. 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:42.320 So I actually rewatched it this week because I was like, well, 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.040 what is this? And I do feel like maybe next 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:46.920 to like some Spider Man, maybe even the most recent 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:48.679 Spider Man movie, which I think is very gay. I 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.760 agree like Ragnarak had so many things about it that 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.320 I felt we're kind of queer, and like Thor himself 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:58.919 like gives like a there there's there's something really like 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:02.719 homoerotic and like makes me hard when they strap him 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:06.399 down and shave his head. That is there. It is 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.000 like the beginning. It is the it is the beginning 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:12.920 of slash fiction. We speaking, it's the scene that launched 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:15.600 a million flash I mean speaking of slash fan fiction. 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:17.480 And four like a lot of it is about Thor 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:22.880 and Loki. Yeah fake incest and Loki is actually textual. 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:26.440 They're queer according to yes, yeah yeah, and also they're 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.080 not really blood related And this is one of my 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:33.160 hottest and least well received takes ever. But gay people 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:37.320 should be allowed to do incest. Okay, lateral incested here, 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:43.160 lateral incests, brothers, cousins, yes, anything with a power differential 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:51.399 of course. No, But I just feel like, literally, the 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:56.080 only real problem with incest is inbreeding. And that's that's 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:59.040 not the problem. It's the only problem, literally, And like 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:01.800 you could even ask the question, like, is it incest 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.560 if you're gay? You know what I mean? Like you 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:08.879 could ask that question, but that is maybe not a 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:14.479 question this podcast that we started to open us right up. 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:18.280 So Joel, you I even like, just from a like 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:23.920 kind of peripheral like view of your um like internet presence, 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.360 I think I wouldn't understand that you were into sort 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:30.720 of like geeky comic bookie stuff. I am. Yes, I'm 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:35.840 a geek, I'm a gamer, I'm a nerd. I'm all 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:38.720 the things anything genre related. I'm pretty much down for. 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:42.280 Especially comic books really was my entry point for a 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.680 lot of culture when I was growing up. I started 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:47.560 collecting comic books when I was nine. Um, I own 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:50.560 like thousands at this point, and where are they? They're 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:52.400 all in a half of them are in a stoge 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:54.680 unit in New York and half of them are somewhere 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.399 in my mom's new house in Chicago. Are they in 0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:01.880 a carry Bradshaw's size storage unit? Like different very teeny, 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:05.960 very teeny tiny um, And like I haven't actually stopped 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:10.360 buying them regularly, like um, several like probably went sometimes 0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:11.800 at some point when I was living in New York. 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:16.919 But it is still like I I love the lore 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:20.680 and I love like the continuity, especially which is it's 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:22.600 funny because we'll talk a little bit. I think we'll 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:24.600 get into it. I think that the m c U 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:27.560 is sort of suffering from the connective tissue that it's 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.720 forced itself into a little bit because the comic books 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.879 do not care about continuity. They do and they don't. 0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:36.600 I think that like there's a little bit more freedom 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:41.000