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Speaker 1: Good mornings, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast, presented

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Speaker 1: by Fan Duel. It's Monday, October twenty seventh, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jayskis here in the Classic Factory alongside.

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Speaker 2: Me as always tas Millice, Happy Monday to all our friends.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's a top Sha hot boy. Trey Kirby, Hey,

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Speaker 1: hey yo, and over Yonder making the magic happen. Super

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Speaker 1: producer jd Hello, Dari is here. We are. Hello to

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Speaker 1: everybody on YouTube, the stream team, you know what, let's

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Speaker 1: call you the scream team. This week with Halloween here,

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Speaker 1: drop your comments, weigh in on your winners and losers

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Speaker 1: of the NBA weekend, and yeah, we had a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about. We'll start with some weggies. Guys. We

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Speaker 1: had three wedges over the weekend play time. We're going

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Speaker 1: to show them to you backwards. We'll start with the

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Speaker 1: most recent. Leggie drew you Banks spinning inside and he

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Speaker 1: botches the layup attempt. I like the move though, yeah,

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Speaker 1: very very nice, so heat work. That was weggie number four?

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Speaker 1: What a you? Number three? A little earlier on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Alex Sar with the block on Sexton there with the

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Speaker 1: left hand, got it in there. Nice camera were really good.

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Speaker 3: Sexton lost that one too, and.

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Speaker 1: Then Friday night Donovan Klingen with the defensive block. So

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Speaker 1: that's number two three and four or four to three

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Speaker 1: to two the way we showed it to We're on

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Speaker 1: page four sixty nine, wedgies nice, very nice, so, uh

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Speaker 1: excellent start test. Remember we did the uh what do

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Speaker 1: we call it, sort of the hot takes sort of

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Speaker 1: draft bold predictions draft from our subscribers on substack. And

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Speaker 1: you took I believe was it you or Trey somebody took? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, it was Trey seventy five. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it was seventy five. It was seventy five. So we're

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Speaker 1: still a little bit behind face. But the balls are

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Speaker 1: sticking this year. And look Portland, how do they do it? Man?

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Speaker 1: What's going on out there?

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Speaker 4: It's so rainy, maybe extra moisture in the air every

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Speaker 4: year there, Wedging.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. I like to think it's because Kevin

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Speaker 1: Collabor and Lamar Hurd, who are on the call for

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Speaker 1: Blazers games, they respect the Weggie, especially Lamar Hurt. He

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Speaker 1: is always shouting out Weggietracker dot com generally us, and

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Speaker 1: I think the weggie gods shine brightly upon that. You're

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Speaker 1: probably right, and give them more weggies because they respect

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Speaker 1: the weggie.

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 4: The ball finds energy and weggies find weggie energy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it makes sense. Let's get into NBA weekend

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Speaker 1: winners a little bit later. We'll do losers a couple

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Speaker 1: of rounds. Here, task get a started. Where do you

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Speaker 1: want to go?

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Speaker 2: I'm starting with Cooper Fleck because he has arrived. Took

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Speaker 2: him three games, but he finally had his best game

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Speaker 2: and it was punctuated by that dunk. It was a

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Speaker 2: beautiful dunk. He lined up mamou Kelshviliana fast break. It

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Speaker 2: was great because he saw him coming and he still

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Speaker 2: pounded it on me. Cocked back, and you could tell

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Speaker 2: after the dunk, celebrated with Anthony Davis, and then he

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Speaker 2: broke out a smile.

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Speaker 1: He knew that if the smile was funny, Yeah, he knew.

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Speaker 2: I just gave it to But overall, I just thought

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Speaker 2: this was Cooper Flag's best game by far. The guy

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Speaker 2: who's running the point guard, so you can understand why

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Speaker 2: it would take him a couple of games. The guy

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Speaker 2: is playing with Clay Thompson, A PJ. Washington, Anthony Davis

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Speaker 2: and Derek Lively beside him. He's obviously the ball handler

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Speaker 2: and running the pick and roll took him a couple

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Speaker 2: but the MAVs are going with a giant team. And

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Speaker 2: to see him run the pick and roll, there was

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Speaker 2: a beautiful spin directly into an alleye, a quick one

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Speaker 2: and the past has just happened in this game.

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Speaker 1: A gorgeous bounce pack bounce pass to someone cutting back

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Speaker 1: door for what it was. Yeah, he's he's good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it turns out he's worth the number one pick. He is,

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Speaker 1: absolutely and they're just beautiful moves. I think on Colin

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Speaker 1: Mary Boyles. Unfortunately, that guy making his NBA debut in

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Speaker 1: this one. He got spun by Cooper Flag once. Then

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Speaker 1: And the three point shot.

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Speaker 2: You could see Cooper Flag is comfortable with it, whether

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Speaker 2: had it all twenty two four and four, four rebounds,

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Speaker 2: four assists, and a block in this one, easily his

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Speaker 2: and that made sense to me. If you want to

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Speaker 2: on the over under call for the Dallas Mavericks, as

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Speaker 2: I thought they would get, no problem. But I understand

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Speaker 2: why they're going with this kid. This guy's a kid,

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Speaker 2: So it would make sense that Cooper Flag would take

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Speaker 2: it did. This was the third quarter was the turn

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Speaker 2: for this team. Again, I said they're giant. They scored

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Speaker 2: thirteen buckets in the paint in that one quarter. That's

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 1: How many were dunks?

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Speaker 3: Hre go Oh okay, yeah, yeah, it was a lot.

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Speaker 1: I was watching the game.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know if I was having to save that

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Speaker 4: from when we get to the Raptors as losers, But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was a dunk festival for the Mavericks, and a

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Speaker 4: lot of it was Cooper running the court, which was cool,

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Speaker 4: With him playing point guard for the majority of the

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Speaker 4: season for the Mavericks. He did have a five turnover

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Speaker 4: game on Friday against six assists, but no turnovers against

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Speaker 4: the Raptors. There's gonna be ups and downs for sure,

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Speaker 4: but long term, it's gonna be better. Like Jason Kidd

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Speaker 4: Giannis is a good playmker. Someday there will be a

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Speaker 4: point guard next to Cooper flag Hyrie Irving most likely,

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Speaker 4: but who knows how the rest of his Dallas tenure transpires.

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Speaker 4: There will be somebody to make plays for him, get

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Speaker 4: reps now just fun to watch. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: growing experience for sure, especial especially a team that doesn't

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Speaker 4: ten threes against the Raptors, mostly because they were living

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Speaker 4: encouraged to put Cooper flag on the ball because he

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Speaker 4: basically in every single category. Long term, he's probably not

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Speaker 4: the number one playmaking ball handler for a team, but

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Speaker 4: when he's able to do it, and when he's the

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Speaker 4: secondary ball handler, he's going to be unstoppable.

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Speaker 1: Literally still eighteen years old.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: I told Nora that last launch. He's like, what you

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Speaker 1: mean he's nineteen h No, he's actually eighteen. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: then we got into what were you doing when you

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Speaker 1: were eighteen? How wasn't that? I will say the MAVs

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Speaker 1: they start this giant lineup, they start Cooper at point,

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Speaker 1: but especially last night, D'Angelo Russell still flirts with thirty

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Speaker 1: get to those guys, yeah, like their guards let's call them,

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Speaker 1: because they are just not starting as a funny choice.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's fun to see Cooper sort of be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd think so.

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Speaker 2: He just feels way more comfortable running the pick and roll,

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Speaker 2: for sure. He looked more comfortable shooting the three this

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Speaker 2: twenty two four and four line. I think you can

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Speaker 2: expect those types of numbers from Cooper Flag in his

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Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year campaign as we get into other

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Speaker 2: rookies in this show.

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Speaker 1: Let's start for all this rookie class.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, Yeah, we got some good ones coming up

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Speaker 2: in this one that are going to rival Cooper Flagg

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Speaker 2: again his best numbers by far, but I think you

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Speaker 2: can you can expect those to be close to the

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Speaker 2: average for him. In part it was a stinky Raptors defense,

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Speaker 2: but at the same time, Cooper Flag just looks great

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Speaker 1: Okay, great start, Let's keep it moving, TK, you're winner

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Speaker 1: of the weekend.

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Speaker 4: I got the San Antonio Spurs as a winner of

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Speaker 4: the weekend, one of the four undefeated teams remaining in

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Speaker 4: the league, and Wemby Mania is running wild in San

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Speaker 4: Antonio two more wins over the weekend, and two more

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Speaker 4: massive stat lines for Wembin Yama on Friday in a

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Speaker 4: eleven rebounds, and nine blocks, but Zion put him on

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Speaker 4: was awesome. Yeah, honestly, not enough buzz for that. That

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Speaker 4: should have been everywhere. Zion highlights used to be everywhere,

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Speaker 1: Well, I will say it was a huge dunk here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe it was weird because it was like the first

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Speaker 1: do what you just said. He did indeed every single time,

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Speaker 1: so many times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true. Zion played awesome that game. I can't

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Speaker 4: deny it. It was awesome to see those two. They

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Speaker 4: were guarding each other for a huge portion of the game.

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Speaker 4: Two of the weirdest bodies that you've ever seen on

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Speaker 4: the NBA special stuff. I'm just saying that Zion Dunc

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Speaker 4: should have gotten a little bit. Yeah, duncked on Wenby,

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Speaker 4: Come on, duncked on Wenby. Ky Jones thought he was

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Speaker 4: going to go to the Hall of fame based on

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Speaker 4: that he's on the league.

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Speaker 3: It's a good point.

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Speaker 2: It's a good point about their pushing Wemby because even

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Speaker 2: last year, it's true, there was some dunks on Wemby

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Speaker 2: that weren't publicizing.

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Speaker 3: That I was given. I was given.

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Speaker 1: I know it's DeAndre block everything. You're gonna get dunked

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Speaker 1: us as you should, as.

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Speaker 2: You should, but you get extra points because it's on

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Speaker 2: the largest man in the league.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, he was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome. As we always say, never do anything

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Speaker 1: on a Friday night, Never do anything on a Friday night.

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Speaker 1: Gets lost in the shorts play of the game.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna get overshadowed for sure, but uh, cool stuff

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Speaker 4: from Wemby. Slick stuff from Wemby on Sunday, thirty one points,

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Speaker 4: fourteen rebounds, four assists, three steals, and six blocks in

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Speaker 4: another win for the Spurs. You could call this a

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Speaker 4: a matter of time before this happens. Two blocks on

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Speaker 1: No one cares anymore, no, well especially it's like incredible.

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Speaker 4: He's a better offensive player than Jalen Walls. The Wells

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he can play eight defense. And yeah, he

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Speaker 2: Yeah overall, and I'm glad we're calling him Cedric Coward

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do another round here of winners tests.

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Speaker 2: gets out, Isaia Star comes in Paul Reid, great stuff.

433
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 2: They had Carisliverton not starting in this not playing in

434
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 2: this game. Jayn Ivy's out, Marcus Sasser's out, so they

435
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,639
Speaker 2: have no guards either. Chas Lanier that second round pick,

436
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,800
Speaker 2: what a name on that guy? Lake himself wakes he

437
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 2: comes in. It just gives Kate enough of a break

438
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,879
Speaker 2: to sit down and just play good enough minutes. Javonte

439
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 2: Green literally playing key minutes. Duncan Robinson was awesome in

440
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,359
Speaker 2: this game for splash and threes. Sar Thompson at nineteen

441
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,160
Speaker 2: but anyway, going on to Boston where more of their

442
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 2: their stars were awesome. I thought Asar Thompson played his

443
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,639
Speaker 2: best game twenty one points, twelve boards, three assists and

444
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,160
Speaker 2: two steals. Had sixteen shots that he took in both

445
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 2: of those games this weekend, so you could see the

446
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 2: Asar Thompson that everyone expected to be coming alive here.

447
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 2: And Jayalen Durham came back from that game getting tossed

448
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: twenty four points, eighteen boards, and then Kate Cunningham I

449
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,640
Speaker 2: think what he did in both games was not start

450
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,640
Speaker 2: all that well, but come on late you could see

451
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 2: that he's got that superstar mentality. Twenty five points, eight assists. Yeah,

452
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 2: a few turnovers, six of them against.

453
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 1: Youwer than the eighty had the previous game.

454
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's plenty of plenty of turnovers. As you mentioned

455
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 2: Trey last year, we did the high turnover rate man

456
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,479
Speaker 2: early as one of them. Oh he's he's still doing it.

457
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: His biggest knock on his game.

458
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was surprised just to see how deep

459
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 2: they had guys to help all of them. I mean

460
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 2: Ron holland Isaiah Stewart off the bench in the second game.

461
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: They're just so deep just to know this about the

462
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 2: pistons that they'd get steady performances. Again, it's very steady

463
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 2: in both of them, whether it's the lake Man himself

464
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 2: or Javonte Green or Bee Ball Paul, Yeah, Bieboll Paul.

465
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: Isaiah Stewart again has grown. We all kind of question

466
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 2: him in his first couple of years as he going

467
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 2: to I think he's comfortable coming off the bench, and

468
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 2: he's key to coming off the bench when Jalen Durrany

469
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 2: can't do it. So two big wins for this Pistons

470
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 2: seemed that looks tough to play against.

471
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 1: Anything To add there on Detroit.

472
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 4: I would like to see Kate have a better three quarters.

473
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 4: He was bad against the Bulls through three quarters and

474
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 4: then turn it on in the fourth quarter as well.

475
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 4: That's when he's racking up the turnovers. Is trying to

476
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 4: get everybody involved. Part of it is a lack of

477
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 4: talent I think for Detroit on the offensive end, like

478
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 4: Kate has to do everything has to set up shots

479
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 4: for Duncan Robinson. Asar can kind of get his own

480
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 4: shots sometimes, but Duran needs help. Like he's got to

481
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 4: make a lot of plays, but it unfortunately leads to

482
00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 4: a lot.

483
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Speaker 1: Of turnovers for him.

484
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 4: I do think the bench and the athleticism that Stewart

485
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 4: and Ron Holland bring is really big. They've helped flip

486
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 4: a couple of games, I think so far for Detroit.

487
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 4: I don't know how long Javonte Green can stay as

488
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 4: like a performer right. Like there's times like I saw

489
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 4: him on the balls a lot. It would be awesome

490
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 4: to watch him when he's making energy plays. It looks

491
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 4: great when he's just out there. He's just out there sometimes.

492
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 4: So I don't know Dannis Jenkins. We saw him play

493
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 4: for MotorCity Cruise, the name of their G League team.

494
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 4: He's at least playing out there. They got the lake Man.

495
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 4: I don't know that I really think they're all that deep,

496
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 4: but they've got good enough players in their top three

497
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 4: that I think they can be competitive in most of

498
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 4: these Eastern Conference games.

499
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Speaker 3: It's just important.

500
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: It's just impressive with carosel Vert out for his last

501
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 2: two games straight and Ivy out so far this entire

502
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 2: season and out a few more weeks that the Janis

503
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: Dinkins of the world and Chas Jenkins.

504
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: Jis that was my lunch lady. That sounds like the

505
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: famous clip the guy yells in the video game leave Jenkins.

506
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, super small sample size. Of course,

507
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: we're like three games in here. But one of the

508
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: talking points coming in to this year with the Eastern

509
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: Conference was, hey, of the three teams, the Magic, the Hawks,

510
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: and the Pistons, which of those three teams might separate

511
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: themselves a little bit from the pack and like maybe

512
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 1: level up a tier or stay where they were. Like.

513
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: We had those discussions, and again it's very early lots

514
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: of time for these other teams to figure it out,

515
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: but the Pistons have looked the best of those three.

516
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: Because I have not been impressed by the Hawks, and

517
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: I have not been impressed by the Ortlanta magic. I

518
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: know we'll get to so there's that something to keep

519
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: an eye on, at least in the standings in Detroit.

520
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: Will obviously try and improve on last year's really good year,

521
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: which we said, we sort of all determined. We think

522
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 1: they'll be right around that mark. Forty five wins, forty

523
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: six wins. I guess somewhere in All Park, I think

524
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: they finished with forty four wins last year, maybe forty six.

525
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 4: I'm just looking at their preseason over it was right

526
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 4: forty six and a half.

527
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, there you go. It feels like they're gonna

528
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: be around there, Trey.

529
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 4: Another winner the Los Angeles Lakers, Luka, Doncic and Austin

530
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 4: Reeves is my next winner because the Lakers have had

531
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 4: a forty plus points score in every single game this season.

532
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 4: Luca had forty three on opening night, followed that up

533
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 4: with forty nine in a win on Friday against Minnesota.

534
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 4: Became the fourth player ever with forty or more points

535
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 4: in his first two games of the season.

536
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 1: Did you guys see who the other three were?

537
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: I did not.

538
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 4: No, two of them are quite obvious.

539
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: Can you give me the stat again?

540
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 4: Sorry? Forty points in two games to start the season,

541
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 4: wilt Michael Jordan and yes, okay, yes, those.

542
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: Ones are easy.

543
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: Somebody else forty Nope.

544
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 4: The third one is a little bit more surprising, though.

545
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 4: There is a tie to Luka, Doncic.

546
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: Kyrie Nork.

547
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 3: Nearly nearly.

548
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 4: No. I guess you could say there's a time to

549
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 4: Drdovinski if you wanted.

550
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 3: To the best seven foot shooter in the world.

551
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 4: No, Anthony Davis. Oh okay, yeah, oh no, they were traded.

552
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: For each other. May Yeah, that's good.

553
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 4: Luca was in complete control on Friday against Minnesota. He

554
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 4: was killing in the mid range. He did get a dunk,

555
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 4: kind of the ball kind of squeaked over the rim

556
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 4: and he grabbed it with his fingers. No dunk score,

557
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 4: low dunk score, but it counts. It even got Lebron

558
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 4: out of it. See, people were like eyeball on Lebron

559
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 4: in game one, very stern face, never cheering for anyone,

560
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 4: but even he was excited to see Luca throw down

561
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 4: somewhat of a dunk on a fast break. I'll say

562
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 4: this for Luca, he looks less sweaty, so that means

563
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 4: he must be in better shape, better condition, I believe it,

564
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 4: even though his weight was way up compared to where

565
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 4: it ever has been in the preseason. Unfortunately for the Lakers,

566
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 4: Luca out now with a left finger sprained slash, left

567
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 4: leg contusion. He will be reevaluated in a week. And

568
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 4: guess what, it don't matter because they have Austin Reeves.

569
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 4: He's better than Luka Doncic apparently a career high fifty

570
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 4: one points last night in a win against Sacramento, went

571
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 4: twenty one for twenty two at the free throw line.

572
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 4: It was an absolute parade for this guy. You take

573
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 4: that many free throws, there are definitely some questionable ones,

574
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 4: but he's got savvy, he's got craft. He really knows

575
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 4: how to draw fouls. And the thing with Reeves is

576
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 4: he never stops moving. Yeah, when he catches the ball,

577
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 4: he's already into an action. He plays well off the ball,

578
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 4: and when he has the ball, he was pulling some

579
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 4: crazy threes. Then the Kings had to play up on

580
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 4: him and it was just easy for him to get

581
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 4: into the lane. The Lakers took forty six free throws

582
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 4: last night. The Kings took eighteen, so I understand if

583
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: they were a little bit heated about this. But also

584
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: the Kings were not guarding anybody at all.

585
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: We're going to see a couple fifty Burgers against Kings

586
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: this year. Absolutely, you Sibonis in pick and roll action

587
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: like they were doing with enough top to get Reeves going, yeah,

588
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: we're going to see that a lot more until potentially

589
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: one of them is traded or something like that. Wow,

590
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: you can explose that. But he was awesome, was incredible.

591
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 2: I don't think Kings fans can be mad at the

592
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: foul calls. They can be mad at their defense, for sure,

593
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: but as far as all those free throws they earn them.

594
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: Austinary's is great at managing a pick and roll.

595
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: Apparently he's leading the league in points per chance on

596
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: pick and rolls one point three four whatever that means.

597
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: One of those crazy stats.

598
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, sure, yeah, sure, I was thrown out

599
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 2: there by our man David Locke, who I believe is correct.

600
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: He's really good at managing the pick and roll to

601
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 2: drop fifty like that in a situation where Luca couldn't.

602
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 3: Get to fifty.

603
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 2: JJ Redick said he kept trying to get him plays

604
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: and get him to the free throw and he missed

605
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 2: the free throws to get him to fifty and couldn't

606
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: get there. But then he leaves the game. He literally

607
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: played with four fingers or then not leaves the game.

608
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: But it is out for this next week because of

609
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: a left fingerspring in the lower leg contusion. So yeah,

610
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: they go and get the win in the first game

611
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: that he missed, So great for them, but still, I

612
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: mean it does hurt them in.

613
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: General because.

614
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: No problem, Yeah, because it's a reevaluation after these next

615
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 2: four games, so he could miss five and another five

616
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: to six games and just a bad sign to start

617
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: this season. But they did look good against the Kings

618
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: to get support from Deandrayton looked really good.

619
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: It was his best game. Great game.

620
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, plus Marcus Smart hitting a lefty hook just entered

621
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: into the starting lineup. But they did it, you know,

622
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: despite a bunch of guys like Gabe Vincent left this

623
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 2: game out lower I think it was an ankle injury.

624
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: Marcus Smart left for a while. But guys like Vander

625
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: Bilton and others did it for them. So it was

626
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: a good win.

627
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: Fifty one eleven and nine from Austin Reees. It's a

628
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: fifty one that they needed, like you know, they needed

629
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: all of the fifty one. It's the Kings were hanging around.

630
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: It was close. I mean it was a high score

631
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: and affair. But what a game. And this guy man

632
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: his like, you know, points per game, but what were

633
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: they I'm just looking okay. In four NBA seasons now,

634
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: in his fifth, Austin Reeves has gone from seven point

635
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: three points per game to thirteen to fifteen point nine

636
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: to twenty point two last year, and now he's averaging

637
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: what's he AG's averaging four fifty one.

638
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: But he was awesome. He was twenty six in game one,

639
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: twenty five in game two. He's getting right near double

640
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 4: digit assists in both of those games as well. He's

641
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 4: playing for a contract. This is a bet on yourself

642
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 4: kind of year for Austin Reeves because the Lakers weren't

643
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 4: able to offer him an extension that would be worth

644
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: his wild the level of player he's become after success

645
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 4: early in his career, so he's getting opportunities now with

646
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: Lebron being out and now with both Lebron and Luca

647
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: being out, he's one of the better third options in

648
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 4: the league. But he's proven, like if I'm the number

649
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: two guy, I'm good and if I'm the number one guy,

650
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Speaker 4: I can.

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Speaker 1: Do it too. So I think Reeves is just a

652
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: really solid player. It is going to be interesting when

653
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: if the three main guys for the Lakers are all

654
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: healthy again, how that that's going to work. And I

655
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: bring that up because you do wonder could Lebron pivot

656
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: at this point in his career a little bit more

657
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: off ball or a little bit more trying to do

658
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: more defensive minded things and the passing and the screening,

659
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: Like basically, I think Sam Quinn at CBS called him,

660
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: could he be a super charged Draymond Green like later

661
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: here in his career because they don't need on ball offense.

662
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: I know Lebron always wants the ball and it's usually

663
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: a good decision, but Luca and Austin Reeves are incredible

664
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Speaker 1: with the ball in their hands, and like, I don't know,

665
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: something to watch when they're all back there, And would

666
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: Lebron even ever contemplate such a thing? Can you even

667
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: twenty three years in be like, all right, I'll be

668
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: off ball more and do all those sort of like

669
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Speaker 1: little little things to help us win games.

670
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Speaker 4: Maybe Luca got him some of the easiest baskets of

671
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 4: his career last season when he was buying in and

672
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: playing as the role man or playing as the cutting guy.

673
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 4: It's kind of how he plays in the Olympics. He

674
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 4: doesn't dominate the ball in the Olympics. And I mean,

675
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 4: you're talking about it a lineup that has five Hall

676
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: of Famers, So it's a little bit of a friend.

677
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Speaker 4: But Lebron is.

678
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Speaker 1: Smart enough that he can figure out like that.

679
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: It's just a matter of can he buy into the

680
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 4: role because he has to buy into a role for

681
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: the first time ever in his career. And can he

682
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 4: be a plus defensive player for the Lakers, because they're

683
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 4: still going to really struggle defensively because you have to

684
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: have lukea out there, you have to have Reeves out there.

685
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 4: And if that's the case, it's going to be a problem.

686
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 4: Because Ayton was good last night, I totally agree. Twenty

687
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 4: two points, fifteen rebounds. He was rolling really hard. The

688
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: chemistry with Reeves looks really smart, like Reeves leads him

689
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 4: into these roles. He's throwing it ahead of him so

690
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 4: that Ayton has to keep chasing the ball, which gets

691
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 4: him right to the rim on the defensive side, Like

692
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 4: he still loses track of stuff. Yeah, he gives one

693
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: effort defensively, it didn't matter because it was against the

694
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 4: Kings and they just couldn't, you know, stop the Lakers.

695
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: This was really an offensive win. I thought, I don't

696
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: know that Ayton is going to be shutting it down inside.

697
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 4: But at the very least he gave a great effort

698
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 4: against Sacramento. So we'll see, because they're going to be

699
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 4: putting three defenders out there who are easy to pick on. Yeah,

700
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 4: and Rika Reeves and Ayton, like Lebron is good, but

701
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 4: it ain't twenty twelve. No, No, he's not challenging for all

702
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 4: defensive time.

703
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: He picks his spots like he can. He looks a

704
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: lot of times like an elite defensive guy, but that's

705
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: for very short stretches. A lot of other times he's

706
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: just standing around looking at people, pointing at people. Yeah,

707
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: get all the quarterback out there. He has turned into

708
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: the old man at your pickup run, the dad or

709
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: the grandpa even that's out there, like, come on, you

710
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: should be rotating. I don't need to do all that anyway.

711
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: We'll see they're two and one. Yeah, so with all

712
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: the injuries to their main guys, you're gonna take that.

713
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and hopefully Luca can come back. They don't expect

714
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: it to be long term. They expect that finger to

715
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: be all right in the lower like condusion to be fine.

716
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: They said, it's not a long term thing. That being said,

717
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: JJ Reddick has got everybody working extremely hard out there,

718
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: and I'm sure he's telling Austin Reeves, lead your man

719
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: DeAndre and lead him. Get him to the rim. That's

720
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: where we need him to do his thing. So JJ

721
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: Reddick has tapped in after that first loss. He's got

722
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: them playing extremely hard. So you gotta buy it. You

723
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: gotta buy into JJ right getting the most out of

724
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: his team. I am at least considering what he was

725
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: in his first season as the head coach last year.

726
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: All Right, NBA Weekend Winner Too, NBA on Prime's debut

727
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: broadcast on Friday night. Interested to hear your thoughts everybody

728
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: on YouTube, all the podcast listeners. I thought the production

729
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: looked incredible. I'm talking about the studio. First off, that

730
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: they have that thing is like a goddamn like airplane hangar.

731
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: It's huge. It's like an Amazon shipping center this. Yeah,

732
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: it probably was. It's got like two levels. It's got

733
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Speaker 1: this super high tech court. There's two sets. Because of

734
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: the two levels, there's like the cool chill like you know,

735
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: couches and seats on the lower level and more of

736
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: the desk type on the top. But it's wild. There

737
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: was Taylor Rooks, It's Dirk Nash, Blake Griffin and Haslam.

738
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Speaker 1: And the part that's getting a lot of buzz after

739
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: Friday Night was like them actually talking about basketball and

740
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: the x's and o's and using that crazy led court

741
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: to show you. I guess Steve Nash was talking about

742
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: pick and rolls and angles and all that, and Haslam

743
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: did a whole other one on sort of defense and tool.

744
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 1: It was great. I thought they did a great job

745
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: with it, implementing the technology. It's obviously early. Will the

746
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: chemistry like come a little bit more? Yeah, But what

747
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: do you think of the overall look of NBA on

748
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: Prime with Amazon having now the broadcast.

749
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: Rights basketball players who like basketball, it works. I think

750
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: those guys were just enthusiasts. You can see, you can

751
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: feel the enthusiasm. Number one. Number two, I love the

752
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: high angle camera that shows off how big the sounds. God,

753
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: that's smart, because even the TNT set was pretty big.

754
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: But they I don't think they did a good enough

755
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: job of showing both at the same time understanding it.

756
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: Look at how big this space is. Here's one and

757
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: here's the other. Rather than that, they just go this

758
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 2: high angle. As they walked from the one set, yeah

759
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: they're on the cow to the other set where they're

760
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 2: going to show ball, you could see that high angle

761
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: camera and you could see everybody walking over.

762
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks much like inside the NBA studio is big.

763
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: It's a very large studio. This is like I would

764
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: dare say, like, I don't know, like twenty times the

765
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: size double decker.

766
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: Oh dude, that's big. It's huge. It is huge. And

767
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: it was fun to watch them on the court.

768
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: Yea.

769
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: And yeah, the fact is it was fun and that

770
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 2: was the biggest thing I took from it. Wow, Blake

771
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: nash Dirk as former and Haslam as former players showing yes,

772
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: basketball plays, excuse me, basketball plays like the pre switch

773
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: and all that, But they just like basketball. That's that's

774
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: the thing that I took about it from the most

775
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 2: you know, production aside. It was just fun.

776
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like the NBA has handed down the

777
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 4: edict we're teaching this year because Tim Legler's got his

778
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 4: coach's corner thing going on over at ESPN. The nash

779
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: led pick and roll segment was really really cool. I did,

780
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 4: like you Donna's haslam hopping in right at the end

781
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 4: and being like, look, they never run plays for me.

782
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: So set some screens kids.

783
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 4: I love to hear somebody telling the kids to set

784
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 4: screens out there. But I thought the studio stuff was

785
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: better than the standing on the court stuff that NBC did,

786
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 4: where I just had like mellow Vince Carter, t Max

787
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 4: standing there with Maria Taylor. It was a little awkward

788
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: when you look back on it, and the studio stuff

789
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 4: just makes a whole bunch more sense. As for the game,

790
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 4: not a lot of buzzz for this score bug, No,

791
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 4: it was. It was just the score bug and I

792
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 4: would say too many pop ups. They got the distance

793
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: tracker on the three pointers. They got like a little

794
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: thing over your head that chases you saying your stats

795
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 4: as well.

796
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like those. Not a big fan of that,

797
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: like almost two video game like or just to distract.

798
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: It's like it's like jittery because you know, the players

799
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 4: are like doing moves and this kind of stuff distracting.

800
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought NBC was superior, game better, but okay, yeah, yeah,

801
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: and I love the lineup. Now that you said, yeah,

802
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: Donnas haslm jumped in and said, I never got plays

803
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: called for me.

804
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: This is how you do things.

805
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: And he was involved in the pre switch now that

806
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 2: I think about it, because Nash conducted one of their

807
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: their's their sets where he was doing the pick and roll.

808
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: You Donnas Hasen was doing a defensive thing. Then you

809
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: got a shooter her In Dirk, and you got a

810
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 2: Roller and Blake. They have a starting line up essentially

811
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: out there.

812
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: Then you got Rooks. Chris Hanes made an appearance.

813
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: Did I definitely?

814
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: Did?

815
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: I think?

816
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, he drew a two bounds bounce passed to the

817
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: corner to Taylor roh.

818
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he went a little too quick on the screen.

819
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: I thought that was that was going to be an

820
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: off ball foul.

821
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: Small notes here.

822
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: Anybody wanted to be in the moment, you know, and

823
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 2: Nash didn't tell him to go. I think should have

824
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 2: had the ball anyway, Chris Hanes, he was teaching though, Yeah,

825
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: you can still teach you while you walk.

826
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Speaker 4: I felt natural though, like they were like camping off

827
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 4: to each other to make their different points right, because

828
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 4: Nash is talking about the point guard side of things,

829
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 4: Blake talking about the role man side of things, and

830
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 4: it just felt like maybe it was rehearsed, but it

831
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 4: felt like they were just way it out there and

832
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 4: it was like they had done it.

833
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: A hundred times before.

834
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

835
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Speaker 1: I liked how that felt exactly, whether it was rehearsed

836
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: or not, it felt natural and even like them like

837
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 1: just walking out there, like there was nothing like rushed

838
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: about it or anything like let's let it breathe a

839
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: little bit, let's let these like legends of the game

840
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: teach us something to still have some fun. And yeah,

841
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: it just looked incredible. So Thursday, Fridays, and I guess Saturdays.

842
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: Eventually we're getting a lot of Prime video games, so

843
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot more of this. Yeah, And

844
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: you know, look, I think everybody's excited for NBC back

845
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: in our lives, especially the nostalgia kick and now we

846
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: got prime here. Oh look at all the new high

847
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: tech stuff. Like everybody's excited for the first week and

848
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: maybe the second week, but then you know, as we

849
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: get into more of a regular flow, then we start

850
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: going okay, okay, now you're being too joyful about the game.

851
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm just saying, like I'm

852
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: looking ahead here. You got to do both criticize, teach,

853
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: have fun. I mean, it's a difficult job. So yeah,

854
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see like where it all goes

855
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: week three, four or five. Are we still going to

856
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: be praising it as much or picking, you know, holes

857
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: it in a little bit more?

858
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: Well, I do think these players who played recently have

859
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: no problem criticizing the guys that they used to play with.

860
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, And so I think you'll see that,

861
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: but you'll also see them actually teach out there and

862
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: they're in they're different roles, and that'll be totally cool.

863
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: And it is definitely this NBA idea, this direction of

864
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 2: guys who liked to play the game, get them involved more.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think they heard some podcasts like we

866
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: heard it was Alex Caruso U and Jalen Oh no,

867
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Speaker 2: it was Jalen One, Yeah, Alx Gross and Jalen Williams

868
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Speaker 2: basically saying last year on a podcast, Hey, nobody watches

869
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: basketball anymore, and I think they heard that kind of

870
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: stuff and they need guys who actually played and got

871
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: in and loved the game, period, and so you're seeing

872
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: a lot more of that.

873
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: There are a lot of similarities from the NBA on

874
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: Prime to the NFL games on Prime. It's like a

875
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: love letter to the league. And that's fine. I think

876
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: that works a lot of the time. Good teach us,

877
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: joyful all that, but there are times when you need

878
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: to criticize or at least point out things that the

879
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: viewer maybe is missing of, like things they could do

880
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: better at I'm talking about players and teams and stuff

881
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: like that, and I'm sure that's going to come anyway.

882
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: Good start for I would say, honestly, all three of

883
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: the broadcast here, it's like nice to have like some competition,

884
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: I guess amongst them to see like, oh, what's that

885
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: doing that, what's that team doing that we could steal

886
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: or try and stuff like that. A few other winners

887
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: of the weekend just quickly Shay got brought up. I

888
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: mean the guys on fire, continuing his MVP you know set,

889
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: you know, back to back season here potentially the thunder

890
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: improved to three and zero. Kawhi look great against the

891
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: Blazers on Sunday, and all that gets overlooked. I thought

892
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: he looked awesome. And the Miami Heat, who were one

893
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: of my locks for their over picked up two quality

894
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: wins on the weekend. Friday night, they crushed Memphis. They

895
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: scored one hundred and forty six points. The Miami Heat

896
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: scored one hundred and forty six and then on Sunday,

897
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: Norman Power and co. Handed the Knicks their first loss

898
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: in a competitive game down the stretch. So he looking solid,

899
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: He looking like an offensive juggernaut, which is a weird

900
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: thing to say. I actually looked good offensively, So good

901
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: to that, JD. I don't know if you have that,

902
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead.

903
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: And they had Norm had twenty nine.

904
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: Samani Fontecio is shooting fifty percent from three this season. Bellissimo,

905
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: as our friend Eric Reid likes to say, he's trilingual.

906
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: Apparently he throws in a Spanish where then I'll throw

907
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 2: in an Italian word.

908
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: They beat the next yeah, uh.

909
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hunter made his season debut Cleveland looking like themselves again.

910
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 4: Some nice went over the Bucks A good game.

911
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: That was a solid game. And I thought Malik Monk

912
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: trying a left handed winner on Friday against Utah Jazz

913
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: was bold. He missed, he missed, and Demanta Saboni's collected

914
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: it and put it up and that was the game winner.

915
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: But I liked that. And I also just want to

916
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: mention the old Man in the three was the podcast

917
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: I was referring to when I said olscrews ow Jaal Williams.

918
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: I didn't say the name because I was you know,

919
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: I forget about Ridings podcast podcast. That's a network man.

920
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but go on.

921
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: Well, JD. I don't know if you still have the

922
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: photo I glossed over it when we were talking about

923
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: the MAVs. But a winner of the weekend to the

924
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: Mavericks who were celebrating the nineteen eighties with those I

925
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: thought they look pretty sexy, those old throwback green jerseys. Anyway,

926
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: this is their JumboTron scoreboard graphic, which is like emulating

927
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: the old light bulb style from back in the day.

928
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: I thought that was a cool little touch. That's all

929
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: we need. It looks wicked. Yeah, it looks good. So

930
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: shout out to the MAVs production team there. All right,

931
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: so lots of winners there. I know we left a

932
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 1: lot of meat on the bone. Tell Us in the

933
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: stream team right now, tell Us in the YouTube comments

934
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,800
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986
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995
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Speaker 1: know what you think. Let's do NBA weekend Losers tests.

996
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: Where do you want to begin?

997
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 2: I start with NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, because when I

998
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: heard him address the gambling scenario, I wasn't convinced that

999
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: the Terry Rosier investigation was all that good, was all

1000
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: that thorough. After hearing him talk, I just wanted to

1001
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: be sold a little bit more.

1002
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: So.

1003
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: He was asked on the Amazon broadcast by Cassidy how

1004
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: earth about it? And he went into it himself. He said,

1005
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: what happened with Terry Rozier essentially was we had him

1006
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: in an interview, he talked to us, he gave us

1007
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 2: his cell phone. But the FBI has more subina power,

1008
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: can do more things than we can, and they got

1009
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: down to more details. Essentially, I just wasn't sold that

1010
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: the NBA did enough of a job, because when you

1011
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: look at it when you look at the indictment and

1012
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: the investigation. I mean there are regularities into betting with

1013
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: the benning companies that the NBA has connections with, and

1014
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 2: you start to look at it. Co Conspirator one, who

1015
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: is listed was listed as quote was at times an

1016
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 2: NBA player, So you may have connections with that player.

1017
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: What that means, I don't know. Retired current I'm not sure,

1018
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 2: but you probably have connections there. And co Conspirator one

1019
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: told another defendant that Rosier was exiting, and co conspirator

1020
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: paid said defendant, so you know, I think there's a

1021
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 2: little bit more there. And co Conspirator two made one

1022
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: hundred and seven thousand dollars in bets. As I said,

1023
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 2: the NBA has those connections with those pending companies. So

1024
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: I just didn't think that Adam Silver did enough to

1025
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: sell it. Is it possible that the NBA didn't do

1026
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: a good enough job on their investigation? Sure? Am I speculating,

1027
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: Sure it could. They just may have not done a

1028
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: great job investigating that. Being said, I'm a kind person.

1029
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: I'm willing to give Adam Silver a little bit of

1030
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 2: a leash here in the NBA that they may have

1031
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: made a mistake. I'm not a prosecutor, but I will

1032
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: say he could have sold it more. There's more too.

1033
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: He needs a pr person that could have gotten him

1034
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: to sell it a little bit better.

1035
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: I thought, just hearing.

1036
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: So when you say sell it, what do you mean?

1037
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: What was he supposed to say to Cassidy Hubberth in

1038
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: the tunnel of Madison Square Garden, Well, hearing a game.

1039
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm just curious.

1040
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: Well, he did it on his own.

1041
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: He went that direction on his own to talk about

1042
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: the Terry Rosier part of it all. And what happened

1043
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: was it was all up to him. He didn't have

1044
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: to address it right at all. And I think he

1045
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: just could have addressed it better. I think he could

1046
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: have done it better, or he could have said we

1047
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 2: made a mistake, but he clearly doesn't want to say that.

1048
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 2: It just again, it just wasn't. This is his first

1049
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 2: time speaking after all of these allegations. Sell me again.

1050
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: I think you can make mistakes, as this league that

1051
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 2: signed up for this, this entire gambling scenario, and they

1052
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 2: may have made a mistake not going enough after Terry

1053
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 2: Rozier in a more thorough manner. There's just more. There's

1054
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: just more things to be said. I thought a little

1055
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: more clear, and he also, yeah, he's not going to

1056
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: say we made a mistake. But I don't know, there's

1057
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: just there's we all could have been sold. I think

1058
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: a little bit more, a little more clearly.

1059
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1060
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 1: I was shocked he even did the interview, and again

1061
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: the little kudos to Cassidy Hubberth and the Prime team

1062
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: for even having him on the broadcast. I mean, again,

1063
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: like three questions, was it not like yeah, two about

1064
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: that one softball? You know how great the NBA type thing.

1065
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, look it wasn't a lot, is my point.

1066
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: But I didn't expect a lot. Again in the tunnel,

1067
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: barely being able to hear, and then he's trying to

1068
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: address this. He at least showed his face, he did, Yeah,

1069
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I mean, he did go on here.

1070
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: That's a good point. She didn't specifically say, hey, what

1071
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: the hell was going on with the Rosier investigation that

1072
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: you guys sort of cleared him. He went to it

1073
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: himself and maybe trying to get ahead of it. I

1074
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: don't know, but not good enough for you or a.

1075
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 3: Lot of people. Yeah, I wasn't sold.

1076
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, the optics of it are that it feels like

1077
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 4: the NBA tried to sweep it under the rug in

1078
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 4: the first place, and then he does the interview and

1079
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 4: it doesn't really change your opinion on the way things went.

1080
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: If he just.

1081
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 4: Says I made a mistake. Are people upset?

1082
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1083
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 4: Probably, But at least he's being honest about what happened.

1084
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 4: Because whatever happened with the NBA doing their investigation, even

1085
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 4: if it's just because they can't do quite as much

1086
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 4: as the government can, it left a lot to be desired,

1087
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 4: for sure. I think something that's interesting about the entire

1088
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 4: gambling scandal is that it's opening people's eyes to the

1089
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 4: tanking epidemic. Right Like, people are definitely going to be

1090
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: questioning that. I think because that came up with regards

1091
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 4: to co conspirator eight, who most people think is Chauncey

1092
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 4: Billups saying we're taking away the season, but we're doing

1093
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 4: it before. But you know, before anybody else knows. Everybody

1094
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 4: knows that at the end of the season, a lot

1095
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 4: of teams give up. There are a lot we could

1096
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 4: even have more teams doing it this year. When you

1097
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 4: think about teams like the Celtics and the pacers who

1098
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 4: would be competitive teams, but because of injuries, they're taken

1099
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 4: out of it, and it might make more sense for

1100
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 4: them to save their draft pick, get a good draft pick,

1101
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 4: and then be beefed up with a real team for

1102
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 4: next year. That's going to be something I think that

1103
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 4: Adam Silver is going to have to answer questions about

1104
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 4: as time goes on, especially once sort of more evidence

1105
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 4: comes out and we hear more about the Rosier investigation

1106
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 4: and the investigation into Chauncey Billups and what co conspirator

1107
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 4: eight was doing and how he goes about and what

1108
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 4: the difference is between trying to hit your unders and

1109
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 4: trying to lose a game on purpose, which is what

1110
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: tanking is.

1111
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1112
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there has been sort of it's kind of

1113
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: faded away the whole tanking thing from a couple of

1114
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: years ago. There's more smoke about it, and there was

1115
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: definitely people talking about it as the biggest problem that

1116
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: the NBA has, and now it's become an additional problem

1117
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: because you're right, it was listed in there multiple times

1118
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: to be added on to this gambling scenario. So yes,

1119
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: it is interesting that they're going to have to deal

1120
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: with both at the same time.

1121
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I would also be tanking for Cameron Boozer right

1122
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: now too. You saw this game. He looks swep, he

1123
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: looked good. All right, let's keep it moving. More losers

1124
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: of the NBA weekend?

1125
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 4: Where you going, TK, Orlando Magic, big losers of the weekend.

1126
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 4: They have twelve threes on opening night. They had twelve

1127
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 4: threes over the weekend, nine of thirty one in a

1128
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 4: loss on Friday against the Hawks. Looks great compared to

1129
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 4: three for twenty four and their loss on Saturday against

1130
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 4: the Bulls three made threes not great, quite bad in fact, Yeah,

1131
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 4: twenty four attempts is ridiculous in twenty twenty five. To

1132
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 4: not get thirty plus up, I think is a real

1133
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 4: failure for the Magic. And they look like the exact

1134
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 4: same team they did last year. It's just three games,

1135
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 4: but thirtieth in offense, thirtieth and three point makes thirtieth

1136
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 4: and three point percentage twenty seventh and three point rate.

1137
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 4: They got Desmond Baine and he's CACP. It doesn't matter

1138
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 4: on there.

1139
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: I know.

1140
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 4: You know what's going on is Pollow is really really struggling.

1141
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 4: This guy is shooting thirty four percent from the field.

1142
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 4: So far, he has three assists this season and eight turnovers. Jeez,

1143
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 4: I watched every turnover. I watched every shot attempt this morning.

1144
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 4: He's playing in a crowd all the time. He's taking

1145
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 4: so many mid range jump shots, and it's mostly coming

1146
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 4: against little guys. He's getting switches on him, and he's

1147
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 4: letting him off the hook by getting into his mellow game. Dribble, dribble, dribble,

1148
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 4: shoot a fade away. It is not working. The decision making,

1149
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 4: I think, has been really bad. He's seeing so many

1150
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,959
Speaker 4: double teams and trying to go through him. He's already

1151
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 4: had a shot blocked I think four times in three games.

1152
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 4: This is a huge, strong dude with a ton of skill.

1153
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 4: He should be scoring way more efficiently. The shot he

1154
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 4: took against the Hawks with ten seconds.

1155
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: Left, yeah, brutal shot, just chuck to three.

1156
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 4: After not being able to make any basically this whole season,

1157
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 4: he's front rim every single time. Maybe that's just getting

1158
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 4: used to playing in real games again. I'm sure the

1159
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 4: shot will come along a little bit. But people have

1160
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 4: been talking about Polo's efficiency last season even.

1161
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: Prior to that.

1162
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 4: He is a great talented player. We know he can score,

1163
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 4: but he hasn't put together the whole package. The guy

1164
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 4: should be a dominant player, and it feels like he's

1165
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 4: playing against himself a lot of the time.

1166
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, the big Rig needs a tune up. Ye, get

1167
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 1: it in the shop.

1168
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems sometimes you watch them, it seems like

1169
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: everything stops, which is what happened in years past. Unfortunately

1170
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: with this team that's supposed to have the point guards,

1171
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 2: et cetera, along with Desmond Baine to just make things happen. Now,

1172
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: they played that really good first game and then they

1173
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: started really good against Lanta Hawks in their second game.

1174
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: But the last six quarters that game you mentioned against

1175
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: the Bulls, going back to the second half of that

1176
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: Hawks game, they've been struggling big time. Because it looked

1177
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: like they were going to win that fourth the win

1178
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: that game against Atlanta Hawks. In the fourth quarter, they're

1179
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: up ninety three eighty one. Oh yeah, things are good.

1180
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 2: And then the Hawks won this fifteen over run, playing

1181
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: the best quarter of their season so far. Yeah, they

1182
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: just shut off in that second half. I mean they

1183
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: started the first half seven and sixteen of from three

1184
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 2: looking good, and then that second half went super quiet.

1185
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: Two of fifteen from three. Now, I don't know if

1186
00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: the lack of point guards kind of hurt because Suggs

1187
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: only played nineteen minutes in that game and then didn't

1188
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: play in the second half of the back to back

1189
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 2: against those balls entirely and you miss him. Although Tias

1190
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: Jones was good in helping out when Jalen Sugs got

1191
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,959
Speaker 2: into fouls in their first game. That being said, yeah,

1192
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: they again moved the ball more period. I'm making point

1193
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: guard excuses, but Powell can can't dribble all that much frowns,

1194
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: even though he had a good game. I mean, I

1195
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: think they're just not moving it enough. Like last year.

1196
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: I thought it was a typo. When I first saw

1197
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: that they had three three pointers against their balls, I

1198
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: was like, that can't be right. That's got to be

1199
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: one of those mistakes. Must be a thirteen somebody forgot

1200
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: the one. But three is that is just wild to me.

1201
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: And of course, yeah, they got being in there to

1202
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: help out there and he hasn't really so far. Rough

1203
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: start for the Magic And like you said, the best

1204
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: way to put it is like, oh, nothing has changed.

1205
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 4: Not good, nothing has changed, and Tyas Jones has been

1206
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 4: pretty bad.

1207
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, yes, he's.

1208
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 4: Playing because Zugs can't play full games. But he's turning

1209
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 4: the ball over a ton, which is like his strength

1210
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 4: is not turning the ball over. Can't really shoot it.

1211
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 4: Nobody on the Magic can right now. I just looked

1212
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 4: it up there, twenty ninth and fourth quarter net rating,

1213
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 4: and it feels like it. They blew the game against

1214
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 4: the Hawk. Yeah, against the Hawks and against the Bulls.

1215
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 4: The Bulls lit them up in the fourth quarter. I

1216
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 4: wowd assume who had as many threes in the fourth

1217
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 4: as the Magic did the entire game. It's just a

1218
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 4: struggle for them to score. And it's going to be

1219
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 4: eyeballs on Jamal Moseley and not too long. There's expectations

1220
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 4: for the Magic. As long as they stay healthy, they

1221
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 4: should be better than they were last season. And if

1222
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 4: they're not, it's going to be because their offense has

1223
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 4: taken zero steps forward over the course of four years.

1224
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: Well, tonight we have the battle of the fourth quarter

1225
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: net ratings then, because it's Magic as one of the

1226
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: worst you said in the league versus the best in

1227
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia seventy six ers es. So we'll see how

1228
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: that goes down. I think it's Orlando Philly tonight. All right,

1229
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: my first loser of the NBA weekend, I got to

1230
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: give it to the winless Boston Celtics. There are five

1231
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: winless teams in the NBA. The Rockets are oh and two,

1232
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: but they lost by a combined five points in their

1233
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: two games. They had that double overtime loss on opening

1234
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: night and then lost a close win to the Pistons.

1235
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: The Pelicans ain't much different, if we're being honest. They

1236
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: lost by six to the Grizzlies and they lost in

1237
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: overtime to the Spurs, so they're oh and two. The

1238
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets are own three. That tracks. Yes, we knew

1239
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: they were gonna be one of the most teams in

1240
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: the league their own three. The Pacers are also oh

1241
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: and three. Now they're missing like half their roster, it

1242
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: feels like in some of these games. Now they've played

1243
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: all Western Conference teams as well, but they're own three.

1244
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: And then finally, the Celtics owen three for the first

1245
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: time since twenty thirteen fourteen, which was the last time

1246
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: they as an organization missed the playoffs. So that was

1247
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: a twenty five win Boston Celtics team, their best player.

1248
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: I looked it up or do you want to take

1249
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: guess who their best player was tween he's still in

1250
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: the league now, Avery Bradley, I would consider their second best. Okay,

1251
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: hold On Rondo was on the team, but he was

1252
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: injuredal at that year, Avery Bradley, Good, guess it's too

1253
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: early for Scary Terry, isn't it it is? This guy

1254
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: is now you gotta go think think old Brandon Bass. No, Green,

1255
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,959
Speaker 1: Jeff Green. Jeff Green was their best player.

1256
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 3: Yeah he was.

1257
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sums that up, yeah, exactly. Anyway, the Celtics,

1258
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: this current version, they're just margin for error is so slim.

1259
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: I feel this year after all the off season changes

1260
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: where they lose basically all their big guys, Like remember

1261
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: we were concerned about that depleted front line, and those

1262
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: concerns were warranted so far. The Nixon Pistons dominated the

1263
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: offensive glass against Boston just a million second chance points,

1264
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: and that's doing them in. They're the worst defensive rebounding

1265
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: team in the league right now, Boston is they're grabbing

1266
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: fifty eight percent of their opponent's missus. That leaves a

1267
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: whole big percentage to the other team that's grabbing their

1268
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: offensive glass. Oh you know, again expected you have no Tatum,

1269
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: great rebounder for his position Horford of course porzingis you know, okay,

1270
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: that's not a strong suit, but the guy's a giant.

1271
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: Big Cornett even true Holiday as a guard can get

1272
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: in there. So missing a lot of guys, and they're

1273
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: own three, just like the Pacers. So these guys missing

1274
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: their star guys. I guess you could say winners of

1275
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,959
Speaker 1: the weekend to Jason Tatum fans and Tyres Helibert fans.

1276
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: Maybe their teams are not as good without them.

1277
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 4: But any thoughts on Boss, Well, I think the Pacers

1278
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 4: are competing, though I agree they're in their games and

1279
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 4: they want One of their losses was a double overtime

1280
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 4: game that was against the thunder right, yep, hey, it happens.

1281
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 4: And if we're being honest, the Celtics are losing to

1282
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 4: teams you would pick them to lose against, maybe outside

1283
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 4: of the seventy six ers, but I maybe.

1284
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: They're a surprise team.

1285
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Speaker 4: What's going to have to happen for the Celtics is

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00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to start shooting threes better. They're thirty

1287
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 4: one percent from three so far this year, despite taking

1288
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 4: a ton of them their fourth and three point attempt right,

1289
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 4: almost fifty percent of their shots are coming from outside.

1290
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 4: That's the recipe for Boston this year is the try

1291
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 4: and out score teams because they're not going to have

1292
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 4: a good defense because of the lack of interior presence

1293
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 4: that you're mentioning, they're they're not going to be a

1294
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 4: good rebounding team. They're probably going to finish in the

1295
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 4: bottom five just because they're bigs aren't very good. So

1296
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 4: you got to make shots on the other end, and

1297
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 4: they haven't made shots to start this season, and I

1298
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 4: don't know. I thought they could maybe challenge for a

1299
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 4: top six spot in the Eastern Conference, and that seems

1300
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 4: kind of far fetched right now.

1301
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally did too, because I thought their ball handling,

1302
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: Backwoart scoring would be enough. Like you saw Jalen Brown

1303
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 2: drop forty in a loss against the Pistons. They got

1304
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: Peyton Pritchard to drop twenty as well, but the outside

1305
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: shooting just wasn't good enough overall. Derek White not great

1306
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: start to the season for him in this particular game

1307
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 2: as well. Like you said, they are losses to teams

1308
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 2: that you probably expect them to lose against, so Lasaio

1309
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: was a one point loss. The Dallas or the Detroit game,

1310
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 2: I should say went down to the wire and they

1311
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 2: lost to the Knicks. So it is close, but they

1312
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: can't board. That was a worry coming in. As much

1313
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: as stan Fan Gundy loves Hugo Gonzalez chipping in, it

1314
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: ain't good enough alongside Nemesh Kita. Those are that's your

1315
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 2: starting four or five right now and they're struggling.

1316
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tough starting four or five. Yeah in

1317
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: the IBA.

1318
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're not scoring enough to compensate for everything

1319
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 2: they're missing.

1320
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: A couple more losers of the NBA weekend. Where you

1321
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: want to.

1322
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: Go, I'll go to the Raptors. I don't even want

1323
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 2: to talk about the Dallas Mavericks game. I just was

1324
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 2: more disappointed in the Milwaukee Bucks game. That's their season

1325
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: home opener. Get it done, and unfortunately they couldn't. This

1326
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 2: was supposed to be the start of a game. I

1327
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 2: think the coolest thing that they did on their home

1328
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: court was one of their players did the six seven

1329
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: that all the kids are doing that that was the

1330
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 2: best moment. I would say Jonathan Mobo did this off

1331
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 2: the bench. Otherwise listen that Brandon Ingram had a good

1332
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 2: game and all that, but I was just more disappointed

1333
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 2: in their rotations. They're just lousy rotations against this Milwaukee

1334
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: Bucks team that shouldn't be able to shoot threes against them.

1335
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: But NBA players are open after lousy rotations, are going

1336
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 2: to hit shots. And they allowed Cole Anthony to go

1337
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 2: off because they weren't doing enough defensively in that first half,

1338
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: and then Cole Anthony got it going, so he stayed

1339
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 2: on the floor in the fourth quarter. Doc wrote him

1340
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 2: he had nine points in the fourth quarter. He had

1341
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 2: twenty three overall. But I just thought that too much

1342
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: sloppiness as well from the turnovers and brandon Ingram. Although

1343
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: he put up the points, I thought he kind of

1344
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: slowed down at times, getting to the rim and worrying

1345
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: about whether it was Miles Turner or Jihnis coming after

1346
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 2: him and not just putting it in off the board.

1347
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 3: He just waited for them.

1348
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: And so that is a loss that's going to hurt

1349
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: them because, yeah, they got the first win against the Hawks,

1350
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 2: when they do this against Milwaukee and then the loss

1351
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 2: against the Mavericks followed by at San Antonio at home

1352
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: to Houston at Cleveland, home to Memphis, home to Milwaukee

1353
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 2: again and then a five game trip boy Atlanta and Philadelphia, Brooklyn, Cleveland, Indiana.

1354
01:02:55,120 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 2: So that's your ten game skeed again San Antonio, Houston, Cleveland, Memphis, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Philly, Brooklyn, Cleveland, Indiana. Man,

1355
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: there should be some wins in there, but still on

1356
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 2: the road, you just embarrassed the Hawks. That road game

1357
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 2: ain't going to be all that great. I don't think Philadelphia,

1358
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: who's showing.

1359
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 3: Who they are.

1360
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: I don't think that Brooklyn game in Brooklyn, even though

1361
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 2: it's the Brooklyn Is at Lock, No. No, and then

1362
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 2: you go to Cleveland that's finding their way. Indiana that

1363
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: needs to win games. At ten games get is bad.

1364
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 2: I thought they should have beat They should have beat

1365
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: the Bucks.

1366
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: They should have Yeah, And you don't want to talk

1367
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: about the Mavericks game, but I will because that's pretty

1368
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: embarrassing to give up one hundred and thirty nine points

1369
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: to a team that doesn't even have a point guard.

1370
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's bad. And we were sold all training camp,

1371
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: all preseason. We got a defensive identity on this squad.

1372
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: They said it not us. They were like, this is

1373
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: going to be our backbone. We're going to lock in

1374
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: on that end. I think they really focused on that.

1375
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: The offense will come, you know ingram Is Spots and

1376
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: Scotty and all that. And Scotty had a good game

1377
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: offensively against Dallas, like that wasn't a problem. But their

1378
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: defense they're getting cooked. And a big part of it

1379
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: is like they're doing all this defensive pressure and guys

1380
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: are just blowing by them. And then Perdle, like, God

1381
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: bless him, he's playing with a hurt back first off.

1382
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: But he's like he's not that type of like super athletic,

1383
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: you know, Rim Deterrent, Like he's good, he is solid,

1384
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: but he is he's hurt right now. And it's got

1385
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: the stupid mask too. He's that man like I like,

1386
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm I know, we're three games in

1387
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: and they're one and two, but like this could get

1388
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: out of control in a hurry unless they fix things quick,

1389
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: because quick, quickly. Holy man, what is this guy? He

1390
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: is getting paid a lot of money to be a

1391
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: starting point guard and right now he's looking more and

1392
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: more like a six or seventh man because he can't

1393
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: hit a shot. He's shooting eleven percent from three. I

1394
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: know he'll have a game where he's gonna hit seven

1395
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: or eight threes. I know that, But defensively and just

1396
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: having an impact on winning plays, I'm not seeing it.

1397
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: And we've had excuses for him. He hasn't had guys,

1398
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: he's been injured, and it's like we're at the point

1399
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: where I'm out of excuses and I'm not really convinced

1400
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,479
Speaker 1: he's like a starting caliber point guard.

1401
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, well yeah, Unfortunately it goes down the list

1402
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 2: here because I don't think Scotty Barnes was leading all

1403
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 2: that much. At the front line. Is definitely a problem.

1404
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 2: They ain't big enough. They just aren't big enough. They

1405
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 2: have no rim deterrence. Really, I think that's that's the

1406
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: biggest thing. I mean, when you go back to Milwaukee,

1407
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: Johannis and Miles Turner are literally playing against kids. Yeah

1408
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: inside there, and I know, I know they're good. Those

1409
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: two guys are good at being big. But the Raptors,

1410
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 2: I guess this was the hope was that they had

1411
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: compensate for it by rotating and all that.

1412
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 3: It ain't happening.

1413
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 2: Like you said, they're supposed to have that defense mentality.

1414
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 3: It hasn't happened. Period one bad start, one quick.

1415
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: Since we love stats, Johannis had thirty one and twenty

1416
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: against the Toronto Raptors.

1417
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: Pretty good.

1418
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 3: There've only been five games against.

1419
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: The Toronto Raptors in Toronto Raptors history to have the

1420
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: old thirty twenty.

1421
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 3: Wow, Jannis has had two?

1422
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: How many times?

1423
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? So there's three other guys.

1424
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: Three other guys have done it in the history.

1425
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: We can get them. You can get the first two.

1426
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 2: The other one is whoa, it's super tough. But the

1427
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: first two you could get.

1428
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: No, No, what about Anthony Davis. Now that's a lot

1429
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: of rebounds.

1430
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: It is a lot of repeats, White, no hold on.

1431
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis may be the one that I am escaping it.

1432
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 3: No, it's not.

1433
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 2: It's not neither neither one on the phone side. It

1434
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 2: was it was via the broadcast. No, you haven't said him.

1435
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 3: Now.

1436
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 2: One guy he's doing media currently. You probably don't think

1437
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 2: him as a twenty four guy, but he's a deeper

1438
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: on the media list. I would say he's not on

1439
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 2: the national broadcast, on the super national broadcast, but.

1440
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: He's on like, who's he on a podcasting?

1441
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 2: He may be a colleague of ours, maybe he's a

1442
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 2: colleague of ours, and in a way he's a colleague

1443
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 2: of ours.

1444
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 3: This show, the show.

1445
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: Brought thirty and twenty on the Raptors, but I never

1446
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: knew he got the twenty has no problem, damn.

1447
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 3: This show brought to you by fan duel.

1448
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, boogie Yeah.

1449
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 2: And then another guy good, and then another guy not

1450
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame, but Hall of very very good,

1451
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 2: very good.

1452
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,919
Speaker 1: And he's still playing or he's done. He's not Hall

1453
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: of very Good, super good. Noah, no, no, would be.

1454
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1455
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 2: We always have this discussion of guys John Mariam No, No,

1456
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: he's a you rebounds. Anyways, we have this discussion about

1457
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 2: guys that you may not remember in twenty years. Yeah,

1458
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:41,919
Speaker 2: this guy is one of them.

1459
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: Paul Wilson, that's good.

1460
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, same type of player. Yeah, okay, Like I made

1461
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of All Star Games, a

1462
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 2: lot of as like Joe Johnson. Never again, you've we've

1463
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 2: already forgotten him. He just retired a couple of years ago.

1464
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: I've already forgotten.

1465
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 1: We've forgotten this man. Thirty twenty on my wraps. He's

1466
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: dead to me already.

1467
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: He was a huge signing for the San Antonio Spurs

1468
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 2: and fifteen played with Aldridge.

1469
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that good one. Yeah, and then we go

1470
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 3: we go.

1471
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: Forgot about Marcus Aldridge for the last guy alongside those

1472
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 2: guys cousins Aldridge and Janice to do a thirty and

1473
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 2: twenty against Raptors. It was late nineties.

1474
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 3: Wow, this is Jared Coleman.

1475
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 2: This guy won because you guys know, you know awards,

1476
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: he was a sixth Man of the Year. But this

1477
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 2: is deep.

1478
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 3: This is is a tough guy to remember.

1479
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: Okay, in the nineties, so yeah, late sixth Man of

1480
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: the Year. Anthony Mason. No, no, he was most improved. Yeah, yeah,

1481
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: they play together.

1482
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 3: Those Yeah he did, he did his and the he scored.

1483
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 1: Alan Henderson, I think he was a six.

1484
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 4: Try nice try cool first name, Clarence Weatherspoon.

1485
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: No nice, Now he was a big Clarence Anyways, this

1486
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 2: wasn't his legal first name, but I thought's it's pretty cool.

1487
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: He was a big like a seven.

1488
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 2: He's a big boy, big boy, probably seven.

1489
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 1: George Mures. No, he was most improved. You said six.

1490
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: Are we looking for six Man or the Year? Cool

1491
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: first name but not his name.

1492
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he went by it though, you know

1493
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 2: him by it Josh Hart last year. He loves those candies.

1494
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh no, oh.

1495
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

1496
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 4: Numbers.

1497
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: Wow, he won six man Yeah, he put up thirty

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Speaker 1: twenty on the wraps.

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Speaker 3: Yep, holy crap, that's great.

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Speaker 1: That had to be an April game. Why did that happen?

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01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 2: Okay, he won Most Improved.

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01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: I totally they all blood together those two awards. Okay,

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01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: that's all all right. Anyways, come on, yeah, let's go, guys.

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Speaker 1: Good night Austin out there. Unfortunately, at least this is

1505
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: a little bit better than night cost. Yeah. One more

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01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: loser of the weekend? Who you got, Trey?

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01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 4: I got the Phoenix Suns. They've been down twenty or

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01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 4: more in every single game so far this season. Opening night,

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01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 4: they trailed by twenty did come back and beat the Kings,

1510
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 4: but over the weekend they trailed by thirty two and

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01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 4: what ended up being a blowout loss on Friday against

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01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 4: the Clippers, and then on Saturday trailed by twenty five

1513
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,799
Speaker 4: and never led in another blowout loss against the Denver Nuggets.

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01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 4: So far the season, they're given the most points up

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01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 4: off of turnovers. They're twenty ninth in fast break points allowed,

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01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 4: bottom ten in the second chance points category bottom ten

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Speaker 4: in points in the paint.

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01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: They foul all the time. They look so slow.

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01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 4: There are no athletes on this team. Devin Booker is

1520
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 4: by far their best player, and it looks like on

1521
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 4: offense they're just watching him try to create for everybody

1522
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 4: because there's nobody else that can get their own shot.

1523
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 4: Jalen Green hasn't yet played this season. He will be

1524
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 4: a huge boost for them just because he's somebody that

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01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 4: can dribble the ball and get a shot. He ain't

1526
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 4: getting good shots, but at least he can get shots up.

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01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 4: Dylan Brooks needs shots created for him. Guess what he's

1528
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 4: going to be out tonight as well. Mark Williams. They're

1529
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 4: managing his knee. They traded for this guy and he's

1530
01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 4: already underneath injury management. Turns out having the Hornet's center

1531
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 4: rotation hasn't worked out very well for the Phoenix Suns.

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Speaker 4: I think they just look brutal. They looked very slow

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01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 4: playing against Denver. They look slow playing against the Clippers,

1534
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 4: who are a team that we talked about, plays ultra slow.

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01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 4: It just doesn't look like they have much on either

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01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 4: side of the ball that they can rely on. Booker

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01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 4: has to play one on one or try and create

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01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 4: for everybody. It's forcing him into really tough shots. The

1539
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 4: offense is really bad when he's on the court because

1540
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 4: of the way he's had to play and try and

1541
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 4: make plays for everybody else. So I don't think the

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01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,480
Speaker 4: Sons are going to be having a lot of successes

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01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 4: this season, but the lessons are going to wrack up.

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01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 2: I got no problems starting Colin Gillespie beside Devin Booker,

1545
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 2: just to have a point guard out there. Oh, jam

1546
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 2: Green's going to help out, there's no doubt. But yeah,

1547
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 2: it's a lot on Devin Bookers shoulders, and he's been

1548
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 2: through this before where he has to be the guy

1549
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 2: to create. I will say, I guess there's something to

1550
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 2: be said for the Lakers doctors that rejected the Mark

1551
01:11:58,040 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: Williams trade.

1552
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 3: I think that they did pretty well. Guy barely.

1553
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been struggling to play for this Phoenix Suns team.

1554
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: Those are our losers of the NBA weekend. Sorry, I

1555
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 1: was trying to look up the twenty twenty six Sons

1556
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: draft pick. I couldn't remember who has it, who has

1557
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: ownership of said pick, and whether there's protections on it.

1558
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: Or not that was the great Maybe I thought Washington,

1559
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: but that was that incredible three way trade of the

1560
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 1: Houston pick. Houston was involved in. But the Sons had

1561
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: the Sun's picked this past year in twenty five, right,

1562
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: melwill watch and they.

1563
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 4: Got that top four protected twenty six and twenty seven

1564
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 4: goes to Oklahoma City outside of course, Okay, but there's

1565
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 4: a chance the Suns are in the bottom four.

1566
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: Okay, That's why I was looking. I was like, is

1567
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: there any I mean, obviously would have to get lucky.

1568
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 1: Oh wait, no, no, I'm reading Philadelphia.

1569
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 4: There's the Washington, Memphis or It's got a lot of

1570
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 4: oh okay, it's got a paragraph of text to decide

1571
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 4: who was going to get this one.

1572
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 1: So probably no incentive to actually lean hard into a

1573
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: tank because I don't even think it's going to make

1574
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: its way to them, unless maybe it's like a top

1575
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: three or something.

1576
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 2: It is.

1577
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 4: It is still complicated to tell you exactly.

1578
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: I believe he's getting it.

1579
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 4: I believe you, But maybe Washington, Washington gets the more.

1580
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: Okay. That's what was my That's what my gut said. Yeah,

1581
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 1: there was some deal.

1582
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 2: There was somebody literally last summer that made this incredible

1583
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: three way deal.

1584
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: The nurkd trade. No, I don't know. I think this

1585
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: is what.

1586
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 4: Didn't they trade a pick at a trade deadline. They

1587
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 4: traded their first round pick to get three picks back

1588
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 4: because they were going to use them for something and

1589
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 4: then they weren't able to actually use them.

1590
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: In the Kevin Durant.

1591
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 4: Trade, that was maybe the nurked tree. It must be

1592
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 4: because Charlotte is involved as well. Okay, yeah, that does

1593
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 4: spring a bell bad?

1594
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: Hey, not good. Don't worry. We are not determining the

1595
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: success of the Suns when it comes to wins or

1596
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: losses this year or draft picks.

1597
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 4: Okay, it's just what was his word again, successes. They're

1598
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 4: playing for successes. Successes, that's right, Yeah, pick.

1599
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: Them talking about success task melists on the board Friday night,

1600
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: getting it correct. You're one in three, I'm three and one,

1601
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: trade two and two. So this is a short month here,

1602
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 1: October loser last place in our pickam battle straight up

1603
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: troll man for a show, one show under the table man.

1604
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: That's right. So it's obviously still a battle here because

1605
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: we got all week here to decide. So where are

1606
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: we going tonight?

1607
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 3: Test got a good schedule tonight.

1608
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 2: But I went with this game because we're talking about

1609
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: one of the two remaining teams that are unbeaten in

1610
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference, the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

1611
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 1: Who's the other two?

1612
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 4: Shit?

1613
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 2: Oh right, nice, it's pretty wild. So I had to

1614
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,879
Speaker 2: get one of them involved here, Philadelphia at home to Orlando.

1615
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 2: You think Orlando would need to win here coming off

1616
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 2: two losses, going into Philadelphia again an unbeaten team, but

1617
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 2: they're getting four and a half points. They can still

1618
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,919
Speaker 2: lose by four and cover Trey's got that's got them.

1619
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: Wow, I like it.

1620
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 4: They shoot a lot of threes right now, the seventy

1621
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 4: six ers, and they're making them to start the season,

1622
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 4: So I feel like they have a natural advantage against

1623
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 4: Orlando's true.

1624
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, the math, the math in their favor. It's the

1625
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: math game here.

1626
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 2: But Skeith and I are taking the Magic thinking that

1627
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 2: they're going to bounce back got one by five.

1628
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 3: They need four or more.

1629
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, they're gonna hit watch out eleven three pointers today. Yeah. Yeah,

1630
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: eleven three is from the Magic tonight. It's going to

1631
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 1: be enough to get them the five point victory. Okay,

1632
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 1: So that's a big game. Here in our pick em.

1633
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: We'll call it there. But I got some announcements for everyone.

1634
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 1: You're going on playback tonight for a little baseball Game

1635
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 1: three in the World Series, the Blue Jays in LA

1636
01:15:58,720 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: to take on the Dodgers.

1637
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: This NBA show has got no problem talking about base.

1638
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 1: So you'll be on playback. That link is in our

1639
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 1: show notes. It's really fun. If you've never checked it out,

1640
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: you can little. You can watch the game with pass

1641
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 1: and comment on it with the with the chat and

1642
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: all that.

1643
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I literally just might be making the noise that

1644
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 2: Shoho Tany made when he filed the ball off himself

1645
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 2: in Game two. The entire the entire show or the

1646
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 2: entire play playback. Yeah, I don't know what to call it.

1647
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: Can you get a taste of it right now?

1648
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounded like this. The mics were great because

1649
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: they were so close up. He literally just fouled it

1650
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: off himself and he just turned away. So either way,

1651
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 2: this basketball show will talk a little about baseball. I'm

1652
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 2: sure I'll jump around to some basketball.

1653
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: Oh you'll sprinkle in.

1654
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 3: After me.

1655
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: Are you going in theory or going live on playback?

1656
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: First pitch? Yeah?

1657
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: I think so. I think so what is that eight?

1658
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:55,839
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I advantage Blue Jays game is in Los Angeles.

1659
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 2: They got to play at five local suckers. This is

1660
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 2: a rightayler start time for the tron Blue Just I

1661
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 2: thought it was.

1662
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,719
Speaker 3: Going to be a late start. Oh right, right right about?

1663
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 1: Already are eight here?

1664
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 4: No?

1665
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 3: You never know? Game too is quicker?

1666
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 1: Well, it's because you have a mottos. What retired like

1667
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: twenty straight guys? Now he was Greg Maddox out there.

1668
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah that was sick. I was okay, Max sures are

1669
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 1: four though, right?

1670
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 3: Oh, get that old guy out there?

1671
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 4: Oh got them?

1672
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy wies Max crazy every time they show up,

1673
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 1: David Pop, Yeah exactly. Let's it called again? I forget

1674
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: what that?

1675
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 4: Two different colored eyes, that's what I call it. I

1676
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 4: thought you would know usually Yeah, I.

1677
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 3: Don't have the answer on Roe chromia.

1678
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: Oh all right?

1679
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: Oh so chromia Greek word for different color. Yep, yep, okay.

1680
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:52,799
Speaker 1: So task is on playback tomorrow Tuesday at three pm Eastern.

1681
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to be hosting a little live chat with

1682
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: the one and only Chaserano. We're gonna talk to NBA.

1683
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: You know, We're talking Wemby Wenby Mania run in while

1684
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Speaker 1: what you're gonna do, brother, and we'll get into his

1685
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Speaker 1: new book there on the right. You see here on YouTube.

1686
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Speaker 1: Expensive Basketball is the name of Shay's soon to be

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Speaker 1: New York Times best selling book. I'll be number five,

1688
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Speaker 1: I guess for this guy. So really excited to talk

1689
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Speaker 1: to Shay. We'll do twenty thirty minutes. But again, that's

1690
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Speaker 1: on substack. Go join our No Dunks substack. That link

1691
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Speaker 1: is in the show notes. Two five dollars a month

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Speaker 1: or fifty dollars a year if you want to get in.

1693
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1694
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Speaker 1: like every week, lots of fun videos. I like behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes stuff, so we're having a lot of fun

1696
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Speaker 1: with that, so go join that if you're in the mood. Finally, tomorrow,

1697
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: a little different here, we're doing a Squad episode. We

1698
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: told you this season, new era, No Dunks. We're switching

1699
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: things up. It may not be like an hour every

1700
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: single day on the games before the night before. If

1701
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: something warrants that, we'll get into it either on its

1702
01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: own show or slipping in. But we're doing a Squad

1703
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: Halloween edition tomorrow. We've done it once before, but that

1704
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: was way back in the pandemic years. So we're bringing

1705
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 1: it back with some new categories and we'll have a

1706
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: lot of fun. If you've never caught a Squad episode,

1707
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Speaker 1: it's us trafting things and we got some fun category.

1708
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: So join us live if you want, at ten am

1709
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: Eastern here in the Classic Factory on YouTube.

1710
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Speaker 3: Looking forward to it, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Hopefully we have some monitors up behind us. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: Roberto can make it here in the rain, he'll be here. Okay, good, good,

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Speaker 1: good good, all right, thanks for joining us. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you guys tomorrow. Until then, Clipper bros. You heard it

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01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 1: here first, have a great time, turn up. Love you

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01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: guys awesome.

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01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember some behind the scenes

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01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: stuff on substack. As you said, there skeets and I'm

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01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 2: sure we'll be getting some video of Roberto, maybe a

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01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 2: one on one.

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01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:52,919
Speaker 1: Interview with Roberto as he puts up our monitors himself.

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Speaker 1: All right, embrace the eight people.