WEBVTT - We Read The Dilbert Guy's Attempt to Make Trump into a Religion 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:05.240 All right, I just want to say I don't know 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:07.040 what we're getting into. 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:11.600 I don't know what you and I want to apologize 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:12.880 to Garrison Davis Midvan. 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.240 That's right, motherfucker's it's a book episode of Behind the Bastards, 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:20.200 the only podcast that's right. 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:21.520 What we are? 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:22.160 What? What? 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:22.400 What? 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:24.119 What have you done to us? 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:26.680 I'm having a great day, Sophie. I'm I'm feeling good. 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.960 I'm sitting down, I'm having my first cafe ola made 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:35.760 with milk from my You're making good for you. I 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.840 think that just means coffee with milk. If not, don't 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:42.800 tell me. I don't care anyway, Garrison, how are you 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:43.440 doing today? 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:47.560 I'm doing fine. I'm having I'm having a Chai tea 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:52.159 of Brave. They also just said to make everyone mad 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:53.120 about seeing thing. 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.000 Anyway, I'm drinking some of this Cuban coffee that I 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:01.240 smuggled into the country to support the Castro regime, specifically 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:06.000 to make people in Florida angry. And yeah, it's it's delightful, 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.520 It's wonderful. I'll get you some when you come over 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:10.600 next to watch that Nazi movie. 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.360 We're going to watch Jesus Christ. 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.560 But speaking of Nazis. Do you know what we have 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:19.479 to read today? Though not quite It's a book by 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:21.399 Dilbert creator Scott Adams. 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:28.760 No why, I just saw the fucking dil Brito on 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.640 Twitter today. I'm like, oh, god, man, yeah, the. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:32.920 Dil Burrito is a fun story. 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:33.280 I am. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.759 I am currently writing. I just finished part one last 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.600 night and I'm starting on part two today. The Scott 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:42.479 Adams episodes which will Jesus Christ soon with someone else 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.800 a cartoonist as the guest. But I wanted to sit 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.080 down with you and go over a Scott Adams book, Garrison, 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:53.080 because when I was was a wee lad, like literally 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:56.280 like ten or eleven, I read some of Scott Adams's 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.760 books and I felt like this would be an a 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.120 bonding experience for all of us and for Sophie too. 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:08.680 Why the book we're reading today is Win Bigley Persuasion 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:12.120 in a world where facts don't matter. Some versions of 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.320 the book, I think he credits Donald Trump as a 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.920 co author, even though he's not. It's his it's his 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.919 book about So for a little bit of context, Gare 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:26.079 Scott starts this comic called Dilbert in the late night 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.040 the right at the tail end of the nineteen eighties, 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.440 kind of the end of the Reagan era, and it 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.000 gets really big around nineteen ninety five, so early in 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:35.880 the Clinton era, right at the start of the dot 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.120 com boom, right after kind of a bunch of companies 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.399 of you know, these big companies like ge did huge 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:42.440 rounds of layoffs. 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:47.280 Oh no, oh, no, I looked at the cover. Oh no, 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:48.120 oh oh. 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:52.000 Yeah, Sophie, why don't you show Garrison that For a 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:56.640 while people thought Scott Adams liberal or maybe even kind 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:00.360 of stealth left wing guy because Dilbert was. Some people 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:04.000 saw it as kind of like an antivity. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:04.040 Establishment or something. 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.200 Yeah, and it's a lot of it's about how stupid 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:10.000 these like mainstream like management tactics are and these things 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:11.800 that like all of these corporate leaders doing, how like 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:15.360 fucked up and often cruel they were. The reality is 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.680 that like Scott was just bitching about things that annoyed 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:22.360 him personally and is absolutely in no way anti capitalist 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.919 or anti any really anti any of the bad things 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:28.120 that he used to write about. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.320 Christ the hardcover's thirty two dollars. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.160 Yeah, it's it's it's not I didn't pay for it. 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:39.440 Don't worry. So I'm looking at the cover. I have 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.320 to read. I have to beak cagy about how I 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.680 don't pay for books now because the last time I 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:51.240 told people, Amazon closed the loophole. Oh really really yeah, 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:52.960 that they won't let you return a book when it's 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:54.960 past ten percent read or something like that. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.720 Now, Ah damn, they caught me. 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.640 So I've had to get creative. But don't worry everyone. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.280 I'm still in compliance with the law as far as 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:03.600 you know. 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:09.080 Yeah, I bet sure I've never seen you I legally 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:10.440 firaatemedia before. 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.040 No, of course you haven't, Garrison. I would never do 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:13.760 anything like. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:17.760 That, can I Can I just say before we get 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.520 into more of your alleged crimes. Uh, really nailed the 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:22.760 hands on this cover. 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:24.840 Oh you've seen it yet, Garrison? 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.520 Yeah, looking at it, it's. 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:29.599 Yeah, he's a he's good at hands. 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:38.520 Yeah he's yeah, all three fingers on, so they're very puffy. 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:43.520 It was was uh, king Charles the the goal for 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:44.640 the hand model for this. 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.960 It was probably just Scott Adams himself. 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.599 Does he also have really really really really swollen hands? 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:57.440 Maybe he sees the world he draws Dilbert like what if? 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.120 What if? What if that's not just how he like 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.400 like interprets realities just through these Dilbert trawings. 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:07.680 It would have to have an impact on your brain 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.680 after a while, and not a positive way. Clearly it hasn't. 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.680 Yeah, so his brain's not working correct From what I 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:14.440 can tell. 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:19.320 Scott, one of the things that we all learned from 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:22.039 the great Bill Watterson is that the best thing you 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.840 can do as a creator of popular art is never 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.920 let anyone know anything about you. Quit at the height 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:30.720 of your fame, and then spend the rest of your 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.680 days as a hermit in the woods painting landscapes. Yeah, 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.040 Scott did not do that. He started a blog, which 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:38.520 was a terrible mistake. 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.360 And then he took the Twitter approach. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.039 And then he got on Twitter, which was an even 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.239 worse mistake. And over time people became aware that Scott 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.640 had some pretty regressive opinions, specifically around women. He starts 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:54.159 posting some like insel adjacent shit, and then when Trump 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.440 comes around, everyone is kind of surprised who hasn't been 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.560 following him closely that he gets like super in to Trump. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.000 And at first he takes this like Weasley approach where 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:04.520 he's like, well, I don't agree with him, about a 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.800 lot of stuff. But I'm really impressed by what a 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:11.039 master persuader he is. He's like a super genius communicator, 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.520 and he's playing He's one of these three D chess people. 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.800 He's like one of the first. Trump's playing a game 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.640 of three D Chess on all of you, and I 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.800 think one of the funniest things. So Scott, when you 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.839 really dig into all of his claims, is wrong about 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:27.599 nearly everything. Like Trump wasn't a master persuader, like he 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.600 took it. His first election was largely a product of 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.160 taking advantage of the way the electoral college works. He 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.239 never got most of the country on board with his ideas. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.880 He's not good at persuading people. He was good at 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:42.520 speaking to the bigotry and the anger of a chunk 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.839 of people who are already bigoted and angry. But Scott 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:50.040 gets convinced that Donald Trump is basically like a magician, 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:54.479 like a psychic magician, taking over people's minds. Yeah, and 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.680 thinks that this is a good thing, because Scott is 0:06:56.680 --> 0:07:00.120 into hypnosis and he's also into affirmations. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.360 In interesting I've actually read a there is a there's 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:07.120 a whole book about Trump's ties to like to a 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:09.840 to a New Thought church back in back in like 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:13.160 the sixties and seventies that focuss a lot on how 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:17.440 how like hypnosis became popular and like this weird like 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.240 New York business scene that Trump was in as a kid, 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:23.240 and how it kind of informs the way that he 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:27.040 goes about in in like interactions and the way he 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.200 does affirmation. Yeah. 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.000 Yeah, there's the kind of guys that he's super that 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.920 Trump is kind of inspired by are sort of like 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.640 a mix of kind of quasi prosperity gospel dudes and 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:43.080 like Napoleon Hill think and grow rich kind of people. Yeah, 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.160 where it's it's talking about, like, yeah, the power of 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.640 positive thinking and all this sort of stuff in creating 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:52.560 wealth and opportunities for yourself. Scott's really into that stuff too, 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.440 And I noticed this as a kid. It was really interesting. 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.280 His first book, or not his first book, but the 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.200 first one I read, had some like pretty reasonable stuff 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.080 in it. Like he's very he was early on very 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.480 motivated by what's called the Peter principle, which is this 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.840 idea and like business theory that people tend to get 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.520 promoted past their level of competence and that this is 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.840 like a problem, right, that like people who are good 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.000 at jobs, who are good at their job, get promoted 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:19.680 to a point where they're no longer good at what 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:21.480 they're doing, and that this is what causes a lot, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.800 which is, as far as I've seen, quite quite an 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:28.120 accurate thing. And Scott takes from this this idea that, like, 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.480 you should always be aware that at any given time 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.439 in the world, like most people are are idiots, right, 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:36.560 most people don't know what they're doing, don't understand the 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.760 world around them, are kind of like in over their heads. 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.600 And then he uses that to kind of pivot to like, 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:47.280 so I developed the system of affirmations, and you know, 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.839 I can't explain why it works, but it clearly does. 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:53.200 And if you develop, like adopt this system for yourself, 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:54.880 you know, maybe you'll be able to achieve things that 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:58.360 would otherwise be impossible, which struck me as odd as 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.600 a little kid. And as Scott gets kind of older, 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.040 he gets more and more into this stuff, and it's 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.120 it's interesting. He talks a lot about how, like, when 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:11.600 he was young, he took mushrooms and it was this 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:16.360 wonderful experience for him and it changed his life. But 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.080 people shouldn't do. It changed his life, specifically because it 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:22.480 showed him that like reality was largely a product of 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.480 thought and of like the perception. But then he came 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.680 to the conclusion that, like no one else should do drugs, 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:30.480 you should just read my books because I'm going to 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:34.600 recreate the psychedelic experience only enough to be able to 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.160 do this. Yeah, by my books, and I'll explain it 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.720 to you. So I'm gonna I'm gonna start by reading 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.280 the preamble, which he's called the day my reality split 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:44.320 into two. 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:49.240 Which is horrible. Oh boy, Carrison. I I have the 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:53.360 Amazon of Like preview, so I can look at all 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.680 the different names of all the different chapters and parts. 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:59.280 Oh yeah, and there's some there's some wild titles throughout 0:09:59.280 --> 0:09:59.760 this book. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.640 You can once we get through this preamble, you can 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:04.960 let me know which ones you most want to hear about, 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:06.719 and we'll go into him. But I feel like we 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:08.040 should start where he does. 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:09.520 Yes. Yeah. 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.480 In February of twenty sixteen, I began to experience two 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.720 separate realities at the same time. In one reality, candidate 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:17.959 for President Donald Trump had just ended his chances of 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.760 becoming president of the United States by refusing to disavow 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.200 the KKK and David Duke on a c In an 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.120 interview with Jake Tapper, Trump said he didn't hear the question. 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.520 This was a big problem for candidate Trump, and it 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.560 was also a big problem for me. I was one 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.160 of the earliest public figures to have predicted Trump's win, 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.160 and I was in the middle of an unplanned career 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.640 pivot from guy who created the Dilbert comic to something 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:42.160 like a political pundit. Sure, sure, yes, sure, funny that 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.120 is that is how people see you. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.800 I'll chake it. Look, let's check it all that in 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.480 twenty twenty three. Let's see. Let's let's see how good 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.480 that's going. Oh oh boy. 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.040 I have an unfortunate like fact dump for you, Scott, 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.520 and it's that, for till the day you die, the 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.920 only way people will refer to you is the Dilbert guy. 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:03.320 Like they call you. 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.679 Someone will say like, have you heard what Scott Adams said? 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.320 And inevitably, who's Scott Adams? And then you say the 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:13.240 Delbert guy. So everyone talks about you. As I've been 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.440 writing this, the Scott Adams episodes, I've had that conversation 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.440 like eleven times. Yeah, I'm writing a piece about Scott Adams, 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:26.640 who you know, the delvert guy. Oh boy, My blog 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.319 traffic went through the roof whenever I wrote about Trump's 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.480 skill is a persuader. I don't know much about politics, 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:36.240 but I know skillful persuasion when I see it. As 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.000 it turned out, there was a big demand for what 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:41.240 I called my persuasion filter on the race. Producers for 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.800 news outlets both large and small were scrambling to get 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:45.920 me on their shows. I wrote and spoke so much 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:49.040 about Trump's persuasion skills that people labeled me a Trump supporter, 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.959 although not in the sense of supporting his policies. By then, 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.120 my writing about Trump had already cost me half of 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.959 my friends, my lucrative speaking career had dropped to zero, 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:00.360 and I didn't expect any new Dilbert licensing deals. I 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.920 had become toxic for any kind of mixed crowd. But 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.280 I was okay with my situation because I expected to 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.320 be right in my prediction that Trump would win it all. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.439 Winning fixes most problems. 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:11.920 So true, So true, buddy. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.680 Yeah, You've only hit Your popularity only increased after Trump won. 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:21.480 Although the polls disagreed with me. I thought my prediction 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:23.280 of a Trump one was looking good until a Jake 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.840 Tapper interview on CNN. In this version of reality, I 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.920 had foolishly alienated my friends, annihilated my professional reputation, and 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.000 cut my income in half, and all I would get 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.480 in return was a Wikipedia entry under my name saying 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.680 I had supported an alleged racist for president. The situation 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:41.080 was less than ideal. I publicly disavowed Trump because of 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:42.720 his see in an interview, just to get out of 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.000 the blast zone. But by then it was too late 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.760 to salvage everything I had already lost. Like an idiot, 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.720 I had managed to turn a respected career as one 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.760 of the top cartoonists in the country into a grimy 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:55.280 embarrassment that wouldn't wash off. That was one version of reality. 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.160 I experienced a second version of reality at the same time. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.640 This version involved Trump brushing off the cn NKKK controversy 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.040 and going on to win the presidency, and that version 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.480 of reality I would be redeemed in the end, at 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.079 least in terms of being a credible political forecaster. 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.000 Winning always feels good. 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:16.000 So it's interesting because, like I went through a period 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:17.920 of thinking, oh my god, Trump's going to win and 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:19.920 then oh my god, maybe Trump won't win, and then 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.040 oh my god, Trump's going to win during the twenty 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.960 sixteen election, and I did. I never interpreted it as 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.480 I was living in two different realities. I interpreted it 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:32.040 as American politics is very unpredictable. Almost anything can and 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.679 does happen, and I didn't know what was going to occur, 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:38.240 which is how most people would would put that, like 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:42.240 describe that. I think it's interesting his obsession with like 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:47.080 clearly he views predicting the presidential race as a win, 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.400 which I think probably is part of why he went 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.560 so crazy when Trump lost, because he takes it deeply 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.480 personally that Trump lost. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:56.400 Anyway. 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.600 Interesting interesting stuff, Yeah. 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.160 Especially because his prediction seemed to go hand in hand 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:04.600 with his own like affirmations. Yeah, so you kind of 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.640 need them both to come true order for your system 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.120 to make any kind of internal logic. Yeah. 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.839 Part of this is because again he's like he's really 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:15.120 he's convinced, not just that like cold. He's not saying 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.559 what Trump is doing is a credible political election strategy, 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.200 which I think any honest person has to admit it 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.840 was obviously he won. What he's saying is that Trump 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.320 is a master persuader, and so for that to happen, 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.600 he needs to be actually convincing people he's the best 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:33.520 choice for president, as opposed to again kind of feeding 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.760 into this grievance politics that the right had been stoking 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.440 for forever and becoming the avatar of it, which is 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.960 a different thing. But Scott had to believe that. He 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.000 had to kind of buy into the idea that, like 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.880 the mass of Americans had come around to Trump's I 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:52.040 like political ideology, which was never the case. And so 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.120 he's got to like leap into contortions in order to 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:59.880 justify kind of what happens. Yeah, it's it's good stuff, Scott, 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.840 when's this this little chapter by saying, for the next 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.200 several months, I lived both realities, but I trusted only 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:06.920 one of them. I double down in my prediction of 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.160 a Trump win. If that sounds crazy to you, well 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:12.080 that's nothing. We're just getting started. There's plenty more crazy 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:12.720 in this book. 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.640 Oh boy. Sure is buddy. 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:21.160 Introduction, where I prime you for the rest. I'm a 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.920 trained hypnotist and I'm going to take book close book 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:30.920 return that shut. The only person I want to hear 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.480 talk about their hypnotism training is Werner Herzog because he's 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.200 going to hypnotize a chicken, and that is that was 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:38.760 a great time for everybody. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.680 I do not, I do not think that the Dilbert 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.800 guy could be a successful hypnotist. I'm sorry, I don't. 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:49.080 No, No, for one thing, he has his eyes are 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:54.560 as lively as a Dilbert comic. Yes, like, it's just unsettling. 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.680 I'm not going to look into them. So here's Scott again. 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.720 I'm going to tell you about the spookiest year of 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:00.000 my life. 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:00.240 Life. 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.080 It happened between June twenty fifteen and November twenty sixteen. Okay, 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.320 that's a little more than a year. Everything you are 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.240 about to read in this book is true as far 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.280 as I know. I don't expect you to believe all 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.000 of it, but I promise it's true to the best 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.680 of my knowledge. I've waited decades to deliver the message 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:16.960 in this book. I waited because the world wasn't ready, 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.560 but also because the messenger, yours truly, didn't have the 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.160 skill to deliver it right. The story was too hard 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:22.440 to tell. 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:26.240 Yeah, this just wants to remove from a religion. This 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:27.440 is so yeah. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.160 No, well that's the thing. So when Scott talks about 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.200 and this is in a book that he wrote a 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.440 fucking twenty years before this one's almost like fifteen sixteen years, 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.800 he talks about how, like as a kid, he realized 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:42.880 that like prayer didn't work, and so he became an atheist, 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.720 but he didn't like atheism, and interestingly, like the thing 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:47.840 he didn't like about atheism is it didn't let him 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:52.360 predict the future like that that was where's his issue 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.480 with it? So like he developed this personal belief system 0:16:55.840 --> 0:17:00.920 that aliens had like were like managing life on Earth, 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.800 and that he was like the child of an alien 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.600 sent to Earth for some like special purpose and lived 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:10.120 under that belief system for some period of time. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.720 I met a few people like that at the Oregon 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.040 Ghost Conference a few months Yeah, yeaheah. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:23.679 He's kind of always been a kook. So so he 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.960 talks about how he waited and waited and waited, and 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.119 he wasn't ready and he was learning and preparing to 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.480 deliver this important message. And then in twenty fifteen, Trump 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.440 rides his golden elevator down to announce his candidacy for president. 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.800 Like most observers at the time, I didn't fully understand 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.000 what I was seeing. It wasn't until the first Republican 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.399 primary debate that I realized what was happening right before 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.119 our eyes. Trump was no ordinary politician. He was no 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.080 ordinary business person either. In fact, he wasn't ordinary in 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.360 any sense of the world. Trump is what I call, 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:55.480 in bold letters, master persuader. That means he has weapons 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:59.719 grade persuasion skills. Based on my background in that field, 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.560 I recognized his talents early after watching him in action 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.720 during the election. I have to say that Trump is 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.040 the most persuasive human I have ever observed. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.880 I have to, I have to. I have to check 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.760 my persuasion skills when I when I'm at the airport, 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:15.600 they will they will not let me go in the 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:16.240 carry on with. 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.960 Your because their weapons grade. You're not allowed to take 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.359 those on t s A. Oh, catch it. It's an 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.240 easy way to They've got those dogs to sniffer weapons 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.560 grade persuasion skills. Scot's gonna drive everywhere. 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.800 This is so many problems. This is the same thing 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:33.639 with all of with all, like the with all, like 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.800 the esoteric fascists and stuff. So many problems we solved 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.560 if we just force people to play d and d 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.680 we would just you just gotta get you gotta get 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:43.800 that out. You got to give his people like an 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.000 outlet for this ship. And if you're talking about like 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:50.159 weapons grade persuasion, you're just talking about D and D. 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.760 Just roll, roll some dice, get some friends together, have 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:55.040 a dinner party. 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.080 Cast charm like, for the love of God, they can 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:04.720 take a will save Jesus Christ. Yeah, it is. It 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:08.680 is remarkable. President Trump carried those persuasion skills into the 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:10.879 White House, where his supporters say he has gotten a 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:15.800 lot done and his critics say he hasn't. Oh boy, 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:20.359 no one says any like. Yeah, his supporters love the 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.920 stuff he does. His his his detractors don't say he 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.000 didn't get a lot done. They say he did a 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:29.200 lot of bad things that he did, Like. 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.320 He was just sitting here there, he was just playing 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.399 golf every day. It's such a weird because he like 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.760 describes as like his supporters say, he did all of 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:38.719 you know, he fall vices and he did this, and 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.880 his detractors say he was it was a chaotic administration 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.639 that didn't get anyone. No is his detractors say he 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:47.280 did a lot of stuff that hurt people and like, yeah, 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.760 his the fact that his administration had a lot of 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:53.320 leaks and like internal chaos was kind of evidence of 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:56.919 the fundamentally bad people that were involved in it. But 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:00.679 like his no one was like nothing got done by Trump, 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:05.320 Like a lot of bad things were done by Trump anyway. 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:09.040 President Trump's critics and mine in brackets asked me how 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.360 I could call the president a master persuasion. He capitalizes 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.399 the M and the P every time he says master persuader. 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:18.520 He's tried to make it impro renown. 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.680 Yeah, he's trying. Yeah, he wants people to take this 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.879 very seriously, and like it's for one thing, a silly 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:29.240 thing to call somebody. We already have the term like charismatic, 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:34.000 we have the term demagogue. Like those those work, like charming, 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.720 that works, You don't need master persuader. Just is so 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:41.119 inherently silly that I'm not gonna take anything else that 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.480 you're saying very seriously. But you know what I do 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:45.280 take seriously? 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:49.560 Garrison? Oh, is it is it the very very brave 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.359 and stunning products that allow us to continue this show? 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:58.600 Yes, yes, the heroic products some people are too scared 0:20:58.600 --> 0:20:59.560 to advertise on this show. 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.720 That's right. They want. They do not want you to 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:03.320 hear the truth. 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:06.399 No, they don't want you to hear the wisdom of 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:11.520 a master persuader like me. Who's who's gonna gonna convince 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:14.320 you to You know, they don't want you to, but 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:15.719 they don't money into Blue Apron. 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:15.960 You know. 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:17.800 They don't want you to eye surgery do it all. 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:19.639 They don't want you to hear what's on page one 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.800 twenty seven, how to design a linguistic kill shot. They 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:23.600 don't want you to know. 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:29.439 They don't want Scott Adams. It is so easy to 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:33.119 write a stupid book, Like writing a good book is 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:36.000 really hard, but writing this book, this is like forty 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:38.920 five minutes, Like this is a this is a solid 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.480 light afternoon of work. You knock this out while finishing 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:54.760 a Frene press of coffee. Anyway, here's ads. We're back. 0:21:54.960 --> 0:22:00.920 And I just persuaded Garrison to support dominating the capital 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:06.600 gains tax using my weapons grade persuasion skills. I rolled 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:07.439 a NAT twenty. 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:09.320 You know, I think I think we should just have 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:12.639 a federal sales tax and that's evenly distributed aggressive all 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.000 the money spent. Yeah, and that's that is the way 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:18.120 to solve all of our economic problems. That's right, that's right. 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.480 A lot of a lot of people who get paid 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:27.879 by the Heritage Foundation are saying that. So President Trump's 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:30.359 critics and mine asked me how I could call the 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:33.520 president a master persuader when his public approval levels were 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:35.960 in the cellar. The quick answer is that low approval 0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:38.880 didn't stop him from winning the presidency. No, but you're 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:42.120 you're not saying he's a master winner of the presidency. 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:45.560 You're saying he persuaded people. And the evidence is most 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:50.400 people never liked him anyway. Whatever, it's it's it's it's 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:53.359 not that he's so obsessed with the idea that Trump 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:56.840 is persuading people and that like, that's what the debate 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:59.960 is about, when really, like, nobody's nobody's arguing that, like, 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.760 the people who like him are saying that, like, the 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:05.159 folks who are against him are engaged in an evil 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:08.359 conspiracy against America, and the folks who hate him are like, 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:12.040 he's shitty and he took advantage of of fucked up 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:15.920 and archaic election system in order to win, Like nobody's 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:19.520 nobody's nobody reasonable thinks that Trump is good at convincing 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:23.120 the masses of things like, that's just not what he did. Anyway, 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:27.000 that's what Scott's convinced that he did. But here's the 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:29.919 fun part. I also believe that Trump, the master persuader, 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.280 keeps using that term, was going to do far more 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.000 than win the presidency. I expected Trump to rip a 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:37.160 hole in the fabric of reality so we can well 0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:40.600 through it to a deeper truth about the human experience. Well, 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:43.159 that may have happened. 0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:48.480 That did actually happened, that is true. Oops. 0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:53.080 Yeah, either either that or a series of decisions that 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:57.840 were made that included the development of a parallel digital 0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:03.640 culture driven by algorithm like faded the divisions between realities 0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.919 and a fucking homunculi was able to creep through a 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:10.959 political shock oth if you will, broke into our reality. 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:16.159 And most of that is probably Zuckerberg's fault, but someone 0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:16.959 was going to do it. 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.760 Somebody was going to do it, and it was Donald Trump. 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:23.000 But anyway, we'll give Scott that one. Okay, we'll give 0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:23.760 Scott that one. 0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:27.560 You know, he he does title his next section why 0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:31.040 facts are Overrated? So yeah, I don't think that. 0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:33.360 Is that is true. We'll skip right to that one 0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:36.880 after we finish this little bit the common worldview shared 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.440 by most humans is that there is one objective reality. 0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.239 None of the most humans actually agree about that, and 0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:45.119 we humans can understand that reality through a rigorous application 0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:47.800 of facts and reason. I definitely don't think human being 0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:49.919 all human beings agree on that for one thing like 0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:53.399 religions exist. This view of the world imagines that some 0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:56.000 people have already achieved a fact based type of enlightenment 0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:58.320 that is compatible with science and logic, and they are 0:24:58.320 --> 0:24:59.760 trying to help the rest of us see the world 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.200 right way. As far as I can tell, most people 0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:04.879 share that interpretation of the world. The only wrinkle with 0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.159 that worldview is is that we all think we are 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:10.360 the enlightened ones, and we assume the people who disagree 0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.600 with us just need better facts or perhaps better brains 0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:15.040 in order to agree with us. That filter on life 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.200 makes most of us happy because we see ourselves as 0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:18.679 the smart ones, and it does a good job of 0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:22.359 predicting the future only, but only, because confirmation bias will 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:24.160 make the future look any way we want it to look. 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.919 Within reason. When I saw what I saw with Trump's 0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:29.320 candidacy for president is that the within reason part of 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:32.920 our understanding about reality was about to change bigly. I 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:36.080 knew that candidate Trump's persuasion skills were about to annihilate 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.080 the public's ability to understand what they were seeing because 0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:41.480 their observations wouldn't fit their mental model of living in 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:45.040 a rational world. But this is interesting because, for one thing, 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:49.080 I think the first accurate like warning about Trump, which 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:51.919 came out before or right around the time when Scott 0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:54.800 started making his posts, was by my former colleague Cracked 0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:57.240 Adam Todd Brown, who wrote a whole article about how 0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:01.720 Trump was like very influenced specific by old fascist political 0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.040 leaders and was using a lot of those tactics in 0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:06.400 order to build a base of support within the Republican 0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:09.840 Party and that he would indeed win the Republican primary. 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:13.480 Adam called that months before any of this happened, and 0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:15.679 there were a lot of other people, and particularly a 0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:19.760 lot of actual like scholars of fascism who were warning 0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.320 about him well prior to him winning the. 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:24.439 Primaries. 0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:27.760 And these were not people who were, like say, like 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.120 the attitude that like people were saying he can't possibly win. 0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.000 It just doesn't gel to me with what a lot 0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:36.240 of people who were paying attention were saying. I think 0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:38.719 a lot of the And that's different from saying like, well, 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:40.800 I don't know if he's likely to win in like 0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:45.160 say January or like December of twenty fifteen, but yeah, 0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:47.760 I don't know. It's and I think he's silly here. 0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:50.560 The difference between what Scott's doing is right. Scott's saying 0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:53.280 that the reason why this worked is because there's like 0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:56.919 this magical thinking aspect where Trump is just like naturally 0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:02.080 better at being this like mystical persua versus actual like 0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:08.119 scholars identifying and like identifying the use of a playbook. 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:11.760 And those are those are two very very different things. 0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:16.960 Yeah, and it's it's again, he's kind of he's obsessed 0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:19.919 with this framing that he's put together of Trump as 0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:23.280 a persuader, and it's I think kind of leading him 0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.720 to lose what could be kind of some of the 0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:29.040 actual useful conclusions that you could draw based on some 0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:32.840 of this stuff. A lot of people's belief in normalcy 0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:37.320 and like the in like political normalcy is what caused 0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:39.919 them to not see Trump coming and not see the danger. 0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.879 This was particularly a problem for a lot of establishment 0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.880 Republicans who did not think that something like this could happen. 0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:48.720 He didn't think like an outsider like this could one. 0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:52.280 And I think most most people observing kind of looked 0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.879 at the past of Trump's previous runs for president, and 0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:58.760 generally of the long history of like weirdo candidates, and 0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.920 thought that it was likely to go that way. That's 0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:05.560 not like a belief about like I wouldn't call that 0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:10.440 confirmation bias. That's kind of because again, like reality didn't 0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:14.160 wind up bearing that way. And most people rightly saw 0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.359 this as a problem right away. They didn't think, like 0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:20.639 reality has broken. They were like, oh, American politics is 0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:23.679 more broken than I had thought. The American electorate is 0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:25.960 more fucked up than I had thought. The electoral College 0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.520 is a worse system than I had realized. Which is 0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.480 kind of like a reasonable way to translate this. But 0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.760 Scott's got to make it all about like how Trump 0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:41.160 like cunningly manipulated reality as opposed to Trump kind of 0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:45.840 taking advantage to flaws within the system that people didn't realize. 0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.080 A lot of people didn't realize were as flawed as 0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:49.800 it was, but a lot of people in fact did 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.560 realize and warn about it and recognize what was happening here. 0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.040 He's again kind of got to make himself the only 0:28:56.120 --> 0:29:00.280 person who thought that Trump could win, which he clearly wasn't. 0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.480 But anyway, whatever, it's it's fun. 0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:09.280 So yeah, uh d think we were we were we 0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.680 were in Did we get to watch it? Yeah? 0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.120 No, I've got his next here. So he's he's talking 0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:17.480 about where what he where he lands Politically? I label 0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.360 myself an ultraliberal, and by that I mean liberals seem 0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:24.000 too conservative to me. I'll give you some examples. Generally speaking, 0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.640 conservatives want to ban abortion, while liberals want it to 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.479 be to remain legal. I go one step further and 0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.880 say that men should sideline themselves from the question and 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:33.760 follow the lead on the of women on the topic 0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:37.040 of reproductive health, men should still be in the conversation 0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.880 about their own money. Of course, what does that mean, Scott? 0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:40.040 Like? 0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:42.600 What what is what does that line mean? What are 0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:43.240 you talking about? 0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:46.360 Means? Are they're not going to pay for an abortion? Yeah? 0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.600 Are you saying that, like men should not have a 0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:51.840 be compelled to pay child support? 0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:52.040 Ever? 0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.840 Is that the statement? Because I'm I'm kind of trying 0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.160 to interpret that, and I don't know where where men's 0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:02.200 money comes up in the conversation of like reproductive rights, 0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.400 other than if you're bringing up the fact that, like 0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:06.600 you don't think men should be have to be compelled 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.000 to pay child support if they get someone pregnant because 0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.200 it's the woman's choice. Is that I think that's kind 0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:12.240 of where Scott's. 0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:13.240 Coming in on this. I guess so. 0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.840 Yeah, it's interesting. My personal sense of ethics says that 0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.680 the people who take the most responsibility for important societal 0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:24.160 outcomes should also have the strongest say. My male opinion 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.320 on women's reproductive health adds nothing to the quality of 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:29.360 the decision. That Part's fine. Women have it covered. The 0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.240 most credible laws and abortion to the ones that most 0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.320 women support, and while life or death issues are on 0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.400 the table, credibility is essential to the smooth operation of society. 0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.080 That's great, Good, Good for you, Scott. He says that 0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:44.560 he is legal for or he is for legalizing marijuana, 0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:48.080 and he also thinks doctors should prescribe recreational drugs for 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:53.880 old people. Yeah, I'm alright with that. That's fine. That's fine, Scott. 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:58.200 When it comes to complicated affairs about economics and foreign affairs, 0:30:58.200 --> 0:30:59.920 my opinion is that I never have enough data to 0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.520 form competent opinions neither does anyone else. Well that Scott 0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:10.000 now actually have to have an opinion do have, especially 0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.960 on like foreign affairs. It's like, well, actually, Scott, there's 0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:17.040 people who's like entire lives are understanding the interaction of 0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:20.200 for example, the United States and other foreign countries, or 0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.360 understanding what countries that are having problems with like food 0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:26.040 and security or like not lack of access to clean water, 0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.920 or you know, difficulties like dealing with the AIDS virus. 0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.000 There are people who dedicate their whole lives to understanding 0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.120 those issues in the context of other countries. There are 0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.719 a lot of people who have understandings about what are 0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:42.840 good policy is there That's a very silly statement, Scott. Anyway, 0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:47.560 that's that's the It's fine whatever, Scott generally speak, what 0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:52.000 chapter is this? Then this is an introduction? Still okay, 0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.520 over still an instruction? Yeah, yeah, we're still an introduction. 0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.400 Generally speaking, Conservatives think we live in a country where 0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:00.680 everyone always has already has equal opportunity. I don't know 0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:01.600 that's what they say, though. 0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:02.160 I'll give him that. 0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.440 I'll give him that. That is a statement that gets made. 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.040 Liberals generally think the government should do more to a 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.320 guarantee equal opportunity. I go one step further and suggest 0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:13.680 considering slavery reparations for African Americans in the form of 0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:16.520 free college and job training funded by a twenty five 0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:19.680 year tax in the top one percent. Hey, that's fine. 0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.040 Although I wonder if he still has this opinion. I 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:24.800 don't know that he does. 0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:26.720 It's also interesting that he's like, I'm not going to 0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.280 state an opinion on abortion, because as a man, I 0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:31.840 shouldn't have one. But he is like, here is exactly 0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.720 how I think reparations for Black Americans should work. 0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:36.440 Yeah, yeah, that is. 0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:40.080 Interesting, Scott. Maybe you could just say I support reparations 0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.440 and let someone else figure out how it's supposed to 0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:44.400 go the plan. 0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:44.800 But. 0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:51.680 As a reparations plan. But hey, look, at least he's 0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:53.840 closer to the right on that side than I think 0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:56.840 you would have expected, given his most recent racist statements 0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:02.360 that got the Delbert comic cancel. Yes, okay, so I 0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.280 guess that's the end of the things that make him 0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:08.000 an uber liberal. Fine, fine enough, So I think we're 0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:11.800 going to move on to Why Facts Are Overrated, Part 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:16.080 one of his book, The Most Important Perceptual Perceptual Shift 0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.960 in History My spooky Year was fun for me, but 0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.000 was also a dangerous time for the world's collective mental health. 0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.160 Enlightenment can be a risky business when your old worldview 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.840 pulse apart. It can trigger all kinds of irrational behavior 0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:29.920 before your brain rewrites the movie in your head to 0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.440 make it consistent with your new worldview. We all have 0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:34.440 movies in our heads that we believe are accurate views 0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:37.160 of reality, and those movies are very different. Normally, we 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:39.520 don't notice the differences in our personal movies or we 0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.320 don't care. But when politics are involved the stakes are higher, 0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.800 then we notice. Emotions are already raw in election years, 0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:47.960 and millions of people are focused on the same topics 0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:50.360 at the same time. That's a barrel of gasoline and 0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:52.240 a lot of matches in one place. The last thing 0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.360 the country needed was millions of people simultaneously going nuts. 0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:57.720 I hope it could reduce that risk by writing about 0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.360 Trump's persuasion talents and preparing the public or what I 0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:04.160 saw coming. It's interesting he is. There's a degree this 0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.480 In some other parts of the book. He's like kind 0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:10.480 of trying to repackage Robert Anton Wilson's ideas about like 0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:15.359 reality tunnels and doing it number one in a way 0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:19.080 that's kind of like overly simplistic, and also doing it 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:23.200 in a way where the goal is to bring people 0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:27.120 to a specific understanding of reality rather than understand the 0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:29.719 different kind of realities that people live in, and being 0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:33.319 able to kind of move through different reality tunnels as 0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:36.040 that's kind of advantageous for the things that you're trying 0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:39.279 to do. YEA, Like, his attitude on this is so 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.880 much more brittle than I think the kind of elegant 0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.360 concepts that Robert Anton Wilson brings up when he talks about, 0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:50.000 like how kind of inhabiting letting yourself and figuring out 0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.240 how to kind of like metaprogram your mind to inhabit 0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:55.600 different realities can allow you to deal with stuff like 0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:58.799 addiction can allow you to like become, you know, more 0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:02.200 artistically productive. Certain ways can allow you to like achieve 0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:06.120 things that you would otherwise have difficulty achieving. Because perception 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:10.319 dictates to a substantial extent, how we how we like 0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.279 interface and experience reality. What Scott's talking about is like 0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.080 so much more brittle than that, And you also get 0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:19.200 the feeling that he believes that he and the master 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:22.319 persuaders are the only ones who can actually like see 0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:25.120 the tunnels people are moving through. And and it's about 0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.840 kind of manipulation of large groups of people as opposed 0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:33.480 to understanding yourself and taking more control over your own 0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:34.720 interactions in the world. 0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.840 Yeah, and I because he's he's also he's like promoting 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.040 himself as like this figure that's like seen like I've 0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.400 like seen the divine prophecy when Trump comes down the 0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:49.200 Golden elevator and now I will distill the secrets onto you. 0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:51.400 And it's all this like it is, it is, it 0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:54.600 is a very it is it's from completely different ends 0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.400 than what someone like Roberton Wilson's doing. It's also like 0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.160 I'm not sure how I I'm not sure if the 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.920 dilver guy can recognize how far into a reality tunnel 0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:09.160 he is in. Yeah, and how much like so, how 0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.279 much of that like self awareness can to extend out 0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:13.000 to other people you. 0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:16.680 Scott talks a lot about his own ignorance of certain things, 0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:21.200 like I think history, and it's kind of evident here 0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.400 because he talks about how like you know, if you 0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.480 watch the entire election and concluded that Trump was nothing 0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.160 but a lucky clown you missed one of the most 0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.880 important perceptual shifts in the history of humankind. And I 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.400 agree it's wrong to view Trump as just a lucky clown. 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:40.640 Trump is an authoritarian utilizing very time worn tactics to 0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:44.160 take advantage of the worst aspects of American culture, which 0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.480 have been evident as long as this country has existed. 0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:51.360 Scott like, I don't think has a I either is 0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.160 pretending not to have any kind of understanding of like 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:58.359 American political history and some of the different figures that 0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.880 Trump learned from. He doesn't know about kind of the 0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:05.480 history of of of I don't know how Nixon got elected, 0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.480 of the the kind of the the Southern strategy, all 0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.839 this kind of shit that you see echoes of in 0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:15.000 the way Trump did his campaigning and is going to 0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:19.640 do his campaigning for the next election. Scott, I hes certainly, 0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:21.560 like I don't know if it's that he doesn't know 0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.439 this or he doesn't think that it's profitable to bring 0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.440 it up, but like the completely the framing of this 0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:31.680 is like Trump hacked the human brain somehow and that's 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:35.160 how he run one, rather than like it's always been 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:39.320 profitable to trade on bigotry and fear in American politics, 0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.600 and Trump figured out how to take advantage of social 0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:46.759 media to do that extremely efficiently. But you know that's 0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.920 not the way Scott describes this as happening. 0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:55.000 Instead, Trump can then be seen as this like a 0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:58.560 like a like a like a mystical persuader. Yeah, as 0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.480 opposed to someone using like a very a very tried 0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:04.480 and true playbook for gaining political power. 0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:10.440 Yeah. It's interesting, like when you when you talk about uh, 0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:14.520 like this kind of stuff. It reminds me a little 0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.960 bit about how people talked about and still does some 0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:20.680 extint do talked about like Hitler's rise a lot where 0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.440 they you know, they described it as like he he 0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:26.640 kind of like brainwashed the German people and he was 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.640 somehow able to like gain this deep degree of control 0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:32.560 over their minds using these almost like his his mythical 0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:34.400 charisma and persuasion techniques. 0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:37.839 It was a it was a mass hypnosis. Yeah. No. 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:41.080 He he engaged in a number of time worn like 0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:46.760 campaign traditions, and he also understood new technologies like radio 0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:50.920 and the airplane and their application in a democratic election 0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:53.640 in a way that other people didn't yet. And so 0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:57.680 as a result, there was kind of less immunity from 0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:01.000 his political opponents to those strategies, he's in less understanding 0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:02.960 of how to counter them, and he was able to 0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:06.239 combine that with kind of the venal cowardice of a 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.799 number of folks who were, you know, his political opponents 0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:13.680 but not diametrically politically opposed to his attitudes, and able 0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:17.319 to sneak into power that way, Like like Hitler's there's 0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:20.200 nothing like hard to explain about how Hitler took power. 0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:25.080 It was a mixture of like savvy political techniques and 0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:29.759 then social engineering and basically bribery. And it's it's you know, 0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:32.359 with Trump, that's less on the bribery side of thing, 0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:36.160 but it's like, yeah, he won election, Like there's not 0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:39.120 much of a difference between how he came to power 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:40.239 and how George W. 0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:41.280 Bush came to power. 0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:46.279 Yeah, exactly, Like it's it's yeah, but anyway, he's a 0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:50.319 master persuader. So if you seek enlightenment, these are two 0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:53.640 of the most important concepts you will ever learn. Cognitive dissonance. 0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.200 This is a mental condition in which people rationalize why 0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:59.360 their actions are inconsistent with their thoughts and beliefs. For example, 0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:01.280 if you think you are smart, but you notice yourself 0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:04.600 doing something that is clearly dumb, you might spontaneously hallucinate 0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:06.440 that that was a good reason for it. Now, Scott, 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.880 you might want to read that part again. You might 0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:13.839 want to go over that sentence a couple of times, Buddy. Yeah, 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:16.160 this is a common phenomenon in all normal humans, but 0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:19.239 we generally believe it applies only to other people. I 0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:22.360 think you're revealing a lot about yourself there, Scott. I 0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:25.279 actually think most people are humble enough to be like, Yeah, 0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.799 I often fall short of like how I believe I 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:31.480 should be acting or behaving. You know, I am not 0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.239 always consistent with the things that I know are right. 0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:38.000 Sometimes I'm dishonest, Like most people I know are capable 0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:41.400 of admitting that they're flawed people. I think Scott is 0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.160 it's interesting that he has this attitude that like, I'm 0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.120 the only one who understands that cognitive dissonance is a 0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.920 factor in my life. Like, no, I think most of 0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:53.279 us are aware it's hard to be consistent with the 0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:56.640 versions of ourselves that theoretically are the best anyway. 0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:57.000 Whatever. 0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:01.239 He talks about confirmation bias, which he all so describes 0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.000 as a common phenomenon that we believe only happens to 0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:08.280 other people. I saw in the election of twenty sixteen 0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:11.759 a dangerous situation forming if the public misunderstood Trump's methods 0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:15.480 and intentions, and that seemed likely, things could turn ugly worse. Yet, 0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.359 the public might not appreciate the extraordinary richness of their 0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:20.640 choice in the election. No matter what you thought of 0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:23.000 Trump or his policies, he certainly was different, and he 0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:25.880 certainly knew how to make things happen. I thought the 0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.800 public deserved to see the Trump candidacy as clearly as possible, 0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:32.000 without the biased framing that his adversaries were applying. You 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.280 might be wondering how confident I was about my prediction 0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:36.279 that Trump would win. Well, no one is psychic. I 0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.120 can't say no with total certainty what the future holds. 0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:42.200 For example, I couldn't predict what types of scandals would 0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:44.759 pop up along the way. But I do know persuasion. 0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:47.040 I know its power in a way that few people do, 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.680 and I recognize that with Trump's level of persuasion skill, 0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:52.000 he was bringing a flamethrower to a stick fight. 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:56.960 Speaking of there's a in part for there's a section 0:41:57.040 --> 0:42:01.920 called how a trained persuader Ofugh was it how a 0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:04.840 trained persuader evaluates scandals. 0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.839 Yeah, Scott starts talking about how good he is at 0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.200 predicting here, and he brings up his two thousand and 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.640 four book The Religion War. Now Garrison, this is one 0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:18.040 of the worst books ever written. And you're inested in 0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:20.759 reading some reviews of this and one of his other 0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:25.279 terrible fiction books. The podcast House of Decline Haus has 0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:28.360 been doing a read through that includes my friend and 0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:31.960 cartoonist Rory Blank. That's quite good, but it Scott. Here's 0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.680 how Scott describes it. I predicted the rise of an 0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.080 Islamic caliphate in the Middle East and their use of 0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:39.680 hobby sized drones for terror attacks. That happens to be 0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:43.640 a good description of isis in twenty seventeen. Now, that's 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.560 not what Scott writes in this book. In this book, 0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:49.279 he's writing about like a fictional war between like all 0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:52.640 of the Western countries, like out like unite under this, 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:56.360 like Christian you know, democratic military alliance to fight the 0:42:56.440 --> 0:43:01.680 Muslim world, which in this book, a Palacedinean man engineers 0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:04.799 the destruction of Israel and then unites all of the 0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:08.200 Arab countries. And also I think like Iran and stuff, 0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:11.759 So like not just Arab countries, but like Sunni and 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:15.240 Shia all get together in this Islamic Caliphate and launch 0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.320 a long term terrorist attack against the West that includes 0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:22.560 like constant suicide drone bombings of like like Western cities. 0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:26.120 That's actually not a good description of ISIS. ISIS, for 0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:31.400 one thing, didn't destroy Israel. They didn't actually overthrow any state. 0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:35.080 And while ISIS did use hobby drones, they didn't use 0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.880 them for terrorist attacks. They used them as part of 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:42.160 a military like strategy, like they use them as spotters 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:46.200 for their mortars, they used them to drop bombs on soldiers. 0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:50.040 In other words, Scott kind of imagined the use of 0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:53.440 like this kind of like perpetual terror war against the 0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:57.680 West by this evil Muslim empire created by a Palestinian 0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:02.200 man who had used democracy to destroy Israel. And he's 0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:05.240 saying that's exactly like what happened with ISIS in twenty seventeen. 0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:07.319 It is not Scott, your predict this is not you 0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:08.680 did not predict Isis. 0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:12.520 Are you saying Gilbert is not an ISIS understander? 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:19.240 I I don't think that he is anyway, Uh, yeah, 0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:20.719 what do you what do you want to go through 0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:22.960 next here Master Persuader. 0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:26.520 There's there's a funny section called about facts. But I 0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:28.719 mean a lot of these are pretty good. I mean, 0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:31.400 there's the myth of the rational mind. 0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.400 Pretty funny. Yeah, we'll probably check that out. 0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:39.719 Mass delusions, when reality bifurcated, which is it not a 0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:42.080 cent when bifurcated? 0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:45.719 I guess it? No, yeah, because when reality yes, yeah, 0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:47.200 okay works. 0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:52.120 I see what he means. Now. Yeah, anyway, Trump's rosy 0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:53.120 O'Donnell moment. 0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:56.120 You know what Bifer, Well, we're gonna have to check 0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:56.680 that one out. 0:44:57.000 --> 0:45:00.960 But you know what kated is well that he's also 0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:02.120 a Casey Anthony Truther. 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:08.040 I hope so, because because I am, you know who 0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:10.600 else is a Casey Anthony Truther or Sophie? 0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:15.319 Uh this ad for the podcast that might come up, 0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:16.680 but there was. 0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:19.360 A non zero chance that we get an ad for 0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:30.120 the podcast. Here we go, Ah, we're back. I hope 0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:32.960 the subreddits having a good time figuring out what was bleeped. 0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:34.879 That's a real bleep. That's not one of the ones 0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:37.920 where I like put in a fake like that was 0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:38.920 a real bleep. 0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:42.160 And that about it. I don't yeah, I don't. I 0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.800 don't sure how how much do we have to bleep 0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:46.200 up there? It is really uncy. 0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:48.279 It's gonna be quite a bit because we can get 0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:49.280 in trouble for that one. 0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:52.200 But I'm super pissed off about it because I'm so 0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:53.239 fucking right. 0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:55.920 Are we gonna have to bleep Trumb's roso Donald the 0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:59.120 moment to justice to just be Trump's bleep? 0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.040 No? No, we can say that. We can say Rosie 0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:06.799 O'Donnell in that context. It's fine anyway, someone on the 0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:09.960 subredd it'll figure out what we what we probably said, 0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:11.480 But as long as we don't say no. 0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:13.799 I was really fucking proud of it. 0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:18.520 It was very funny. So about facts. On August thirteenth, 0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:21.480 twenty fifteen, I predicted my blog that Donald Trump had 0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:23.960 a ninety eight percent chance of winning the presidency based 0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:25.320 on his persuasion skills. 0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.200 Wait, why did he think ninety eight percent? 0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:32.160 Yeah, first off, that's a nonsense number, and it's funny, 0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:34.279 he says. A week earlier, he talks about like Nate 0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:37.120 Silver had put, the most respected political forecaster in the 0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:39.600 United States, had put Trump's odds of winning their Republican 0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:44.120 nomination at two percent in his five thirty eight blog yeah, 0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:47.240 which is like, yeah, I guess it's fair that people 0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:50.439 didn't note that he was going enough people didn't note 0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:53.400 that he was likely to win the primaries early on, 0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:56.360 although it also is worth noting that Nate Silver is 0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.520 one of the people who actually accurately called the way 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.480 in which Trump was going to win, like when he 0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:05.360 gave him like a thirty something percent chance, which was 0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.359 higher than any of the other posters, and he laid 0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:12.680 out basically the collapse of the Democrat firewall in kind 0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.520 of the Midwest and how that could lead to an 0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:18.120 electoral victory and was pretty much correct, which is more 0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:23.279 impressive than Scott saying nine eight percent. Oh boy. Some 0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:25.960 of the rare and notable predictors of Trump's win included 0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:31.000 Mike Cernovich and Colter Stefan Malinu, Milo Ianopolis, Bill Mitchell. 0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:43.320 Absolutely horrible. There's a bad yeah, just all terrible people, 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.960 good stuff, good stuff. In California where I lived, it lived, 0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:52.399 it seemed as if most Trump supporters weren't hiding because 0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:57.480 of the social and career risks of publicly supporting him. 0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:55.880 Uh. 0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:00.560 Luckily he was wrong. Trump's Twitter followers had adopted him 0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:03.319 immediately and have my back every step of the way. 0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:06.040 And the critics he came after me on Twitter and elsewhere. 0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:08.799 Trump supporters flooded into back me. I didn't ask them 0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:09.919 to do it, they just did. 0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:11.400 Wow. 0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:13.680 So that's why he wrote this book. He did it 0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:17.120 to as he did it of solidarity with Trump's Twitter followers. 0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:22.560 Oh that's great, that's good. 0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:26.680 It's it's good stuff. Okay, Well there suasion tips, some 0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:28.000 great persuasion tips. 0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:28.279 Yeah. 0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:29.160 Yeah. 0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:32.399 One is reciprocity. If you're nice to people, they want 0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:34.399 to be nice to you in return. That's a really 0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:39.399 tip for you, Garrison. Yeah really yeah, yeah, that tip 0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:44.279 number three. All of these his brilliant techniques, like being 0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.120 nice to people work even if people know what you're doing. 0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:50.919 That's that's good. This is all like very basic shit 0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:54.160 like that. There's been scientific studies about how stuff like 0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:58.600 reciprocity works. Like, none of this is like new. All 0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:00.560 of this is stuff you can find in a different 0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:05.000 books about like how to negotiate and shit, it's it's 0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:08.120 it is pretty boring. Uh yeah, let's move on to 0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:11.200 another chapter that's less boring than this. That's the next 0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:14.359 third grade fucking persuasion tactic shit. 0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:17.360 The next section is how to see reality in a 0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:21.640 more useful way? Which? Which? Which? Which? Starts off with 0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:23.800 the myth of the rational mind? 0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:26.879 Okay, wait, Garrison, I gotta, I gotta give you this. 0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:29.680 He keeps talking about Nate Silver later in this chapter. 0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:34.520 I gotta go into this here. Yeah, Okay, this is telling. 0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.400 I picked ninety eight percent as my Trump prediction because 0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:39.760 Nate Silver of five point thirty eight was saying two percent. 0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:42.480 I did that for branding and persuasion purposes. It is 0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:44.520 easy to remember my prediction both because of the way 0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:47.319 it fits with Silver's prediction and for its audacity, which 0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:51.080 people perceived as wrongness. The prediction was designed to attract attention, 0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:53.160 and it did. It was also designed to pair my 0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:56.399 name with Nate Silver's name to raise my profile by association. 0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:59.560 That worked too. Social media folks mentioned me in the 0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:03.160 same sense with Silver countless times during the election, exactly 0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:05.680 as I had hoped, and every mention raised my importance 0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:08.480 as a political observer because I was being compared with 0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:11.040 someone already important in that field. Keep in mind that 0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:12.759 at this point in our story, I was playing the 0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:16.239 wrong sport. I was a cartoonist writing about politics and persuasion. 0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:18.719 I needed whatever credibility I could get to build an 0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.239 audience for my Trump blog. It's interesting because he's talking 0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:24.279 about how like I subtly hacked people's brains to make 0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:27.680 myself seem more credible. No, the people who it wasn't 0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:31.280 like serious political pollsters who were taking Scott Adam seriously. 0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:35.200 It was like Rando Trump supporters on Twitter who liked 0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:38.240 you because you were saying what they already believed. Again, 0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:41.880 Scott could consistently talks about what he's doing is persuasion. 0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:45.640 You didn't persuade anybody. You joined a crowd of people 0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:48.120 all cheering for a guy, and they liked that you 0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:49.719 were cheering for the same guy. 0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:53.120 Like in the same sentence where he talks about yeah, 0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:55.319 confirmation bias. 0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:58.240 It's interesting because again it's like yeah credit where it's new. Scott, 0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:01.840 you said before Trump one uh the primary, that he 0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:03.600 was gonna win the primary. You know, I'll give you 0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:06.200 give you a credit for being right there, But you're 0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:09.920 talking about persuasion. You didn't persuade people. You went to 0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:12.040 a group of people who all thought Trump was going 0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:15.080 to win because they were Trump's supporters on Twitter and 0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:17.640 they liked you because you were also a Trump supporter 0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:22.359 on Twitter. That's not persuasion, Scott. Okay, now we can 0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:23.719 move on. What is it you wanted me to get 0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:24.360 into next? 0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:27.440 The Myth of the rational The Myth of the Rational 0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:30.520 Mind on page thirty three looks pretty good, And then 0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:33.680 there's then there is then there's mass delusions on sixty two. 0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:39.040 God, there are so many fucking chapters. It's this is horrible. 0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:42.880 Uh wait, where the fuck is the Myth of the 0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:45.600 Rational Mind? Thirty three thirty three? 0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:47.319 How many chapters are there? 0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:48.040 Well? 0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:50.960 I don't Well, there's like, there's like five parts, but 0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:54.200 each part has its own little like sub grouping. 0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:57.840 He has a bunch of like short, shitty chapters and 0:51:57.880 --> 0:52:01.960 they all have like dog shittle weird stupid titles. 0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:04.400 Go Bigley or go Home great great titles. 0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:08.520 Wait, but what was what was Donald Trump's real Donald moment? 0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:12.880 We'll find out that there are so many little chapters 0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:15.560 I want to read here, the making of a hypnotist 0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:21.000 who could be hypnotized, hypnosis superpowers, finding a hypnosis school. 0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:29.760 Oh fuck, all right, The Myth of the Rational Mind. 0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:37.920 Students of philosophy, remember that Plato Jesus Christ. Remember that 0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:41.400 Plato talked about the subjective nature of our personal realities 0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:44.759 In the Allegory of the Cave. Plato asked, us, Oh God, 0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:48.600 I don't want to go. 0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:54.200 We don't need to explain the allegory of the cave 0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:55.359 to us. I'm sorry, No, you. 0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:57.319 All learned about this in a high school, right, which 0:52:57.320 --> 0:52:59.200 is the last time Scott learned anything? 0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:01.840 Or matrix? Who cares? Matrix? 0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:02.239 Yeah? 0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:06.680 Who carey? 0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:10.440 The points of Plato's allegory is that, figuratively speaking, the 0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:12.960 humans might be chained to a cave created by our 0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:16.120 own faulty brains and senses, experiencing a shadow world that 0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:20.760 is entirely different from objective reality. Other famous philosophers, notably 0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:24.279 David Hume, have questioned the nature cause the existence of 0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:27.319 free will. If, as some philosophers claim, humans have no 0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:29.279 free will and we are nothing but victims of cause 0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:32.200 and effect, that means our common view of reality is absurd. 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:34.319 In this model of the world, we are little more 0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:37.080 than meat robots who wrongly believe we control our own 0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:41.040 decisions and actions. He's now, he's now, he's talking. He's 0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:44.640 just this is like he's like summarizing, like Wikipedia pages 0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:47.400 for four guys. It's about comp next just like Google, 0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:50.560 cause than him talking about a manual. 0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:54.400 No, we have to read at least one sentence of Skull. 0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:57.879 Uses a lot of words to say reality isn't necessarily 0:53:57.920 --> 0:54:03.600 anything like the way we perceive it, laughing. Kant uses 0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:05.879 a lot of words. You have to give him that. 0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:11.560 I just like that. That's his abbreviated version for CON's philosophy. 0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:15.440 Well, he does say he have explained that our brains 0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:17.880 don't have direct access to base reality. We have to 0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:21.760 settle for interpreting the input from our faulty senses. Okay, 0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:28.000 there you go, there you go. I only mentioned yeah. 0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:29.839 Mas de dilutions on page sixty two. 0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:32.960 I only mention them to show that smart people throughout 0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:35.600 history have made arguments about the subjective nature reality that 0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:37.760 are compatible with what you will read in these pages. 0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:38.120 Now. 0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:40.760 Now not the case, Scott. 0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:46.880 That is, you're saying, like Plato, Plato, David Hume, and 0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:48.319 Kant agree. 0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:51.560 With me, because for one thing, what Scott's been building 0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:54.720 to this whole time is not like reality is entirely 0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:58.160 subjective in the response and like the result of like 0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:02.200 flawed senses. It's I Scott atoms understand reality and the 0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:04.640 only one did I was the right one, and you 0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:08.080 need to understand how I'm right about reality in this 0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:17.040 weird specific way, like great I a manual count appreciateor. 0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:18.480 Scott Adams, Jesus, fuck. 0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:22.040 It's good stuff. What are we what are we looking at? Next? 0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:26.840 Mass Illusions on page sixty two. Yeah, okay, and that 0:55:26.920 --> 0:55:30.399 one is back to back with when when reality bifurcated? 0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:33.239 So you know, good stuff. But then within those like 0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:36.560 nine pages, I am excited to get into that. I 0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:38.759 do like that Mass Delusions is a little like five 0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:39.560 pages long. 0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:42.759 No, no, you don't need that much space to talk 0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:44.360 about mass illusions. You know. 0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:47.360 It's after confirmation bias. 0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:52.200 There we go, and right before Salem witch trials and 0:55:52.360 --> 0:55:54.080 orson Wells is more of the world. 0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:04.319 I feel like Robert, like the word searches you could 0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:07.120 do to find things in this book would be incredible. 0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:10.880 I might do our good, old, our old stand by 0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:13.120 word search and just see what he has to say 0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:14.880 about the Jewish people. 0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:17.160 Control f Jew? 0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:22.279 Yeah, control f Jew. If you don't know how frequently 0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:25.359 mass illusions occur in your daily experience, many of your 0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:27.759 opinions about the world are likely to be nonsense in 0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:32.799 your daily experience. Yeah, that's because mass illusions are the 0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:36.040 norm for humanity, not the exception. Don't believe me. It's 0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:38.400 easy to check. Just ask your neighbors about the religious 0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:42.000 and political views. You'll find plenty of disagreement with your worldview. 0:56:42.200 --> 0:56:44.040 And so, according to you, your neighbors and all the 0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:45.680 people who agree with them must be living in some 0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:49.200 sort of hallucion. No, they're not, are you talking about? 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:54.600 Like my dad is a conservative and believes different things 0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:56.719 about the way rich people should be tact I don't 0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:59.920 think he's hallucinating. I think he has a series of 0:57:00.160 --> 0:57:03.960 opinions based on a mix of like things propaganda that 0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:07.000 he's consumed, and what's financially best for him. But that's 0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:08.839 not a hallucination, you can tell. 0:57:08.880 --> 0:57:11.560 And this MAT's never read a single page of Plato, 0:57:11.680 --> 0:57:16.760 David Hume, or Cot and only read the Wikipedia Submary, because. 0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:21.120 Like when I when I encounter somebody in my community 0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:24.400 who expresses a racist view or drops a slur, I 0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:27.800 don't think they're hallucinating. I think they're a shitty person. 0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:31.680 Like that's that, Like there's a there's a difference between 0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:34.680 those two things, Like it's it's like saying that, like 0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:38.000 you have to believe if somebody disagrees with your worldview 0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:40.680 that they're engaged in a hallucination. Like for one thing, 0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:44.200 just a lot of times you encounter people who feel different, 0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:46.680 Like when I encounter someone who is not a bad 0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:49.200 person or not expressing anything mean, but is like I 0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:52.080 don't know a Muslim or a Christian or something else 0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:53.880 that I'm not. I don't think that they are a 0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:56.560 Muslim or a Christian or whatever because they're engaged in 0:57:56.560 --> 0:57:59.280 a mass hallucination. Like I didn't go to India and 0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:01.080 meet a bunch of hind people and go, wow, look 0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:03.720 at all these hallucinating people. Like no, it's just a 0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:06.440 religion that's not my own. That's the way the world is. 0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:10.960 Lots of people believe things I don't. It's like the 0:58:11.520 --> 0:58:14.120 weird way to go about the world, so weird, like 0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:17.439 that he believes everyone else thinks this way. Like there's 0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:20.280 certainly like bigots who think that way, but like I 0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:22.560 don't know. I've had a lot of conversations with people 0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:27.000 of different religions and philosophical stances and political stances and 0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:30.040 disagreed with them or not just felt the same way, 0:58:30.240 --> 0:58:32.200 and neither of us walked away being like, well, that 0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:35.600 guy's fucking tripping balls, Like that's such a strange way 0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:36.640 to describe this. 0:58:38.640 --> 0:58:39.680 Anyway. Whatever. 0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:43.080 Do you remember when millions of Americans believed President Obama 0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:45.680 was a secret Muslim? That was a mass illusion? Now, 0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:50.000 who was pushing that massed illusion? Scott? Was it Donald Trump? 0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:51.320 The master persuader? 0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:54.600 I guess he didn't persuade enough people. 0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:58.600 No, he didn't persuade Scott. Do you remember when President 0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:01.000 Trump got arrested and there were protests in the street 0:59:01.000 --> 0:59:03.040 because they thought he was the next Hitler? That was 0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:05.920 a mass delusion. He did try to coop the government 0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:08.120 and put himself in as a dictator Scott. 0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:10.760 To me, to be fair, this was what in twenty 0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:13.960 seventeen when this book came out. Yeah, something like that. 0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:17.360 Yeah, but also that is just evidence the people who 0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:22.240 protested may have caught something that Scott didn't, although I 0:59:22.280 --> 0:59:25.920 don't think he thinks J six was bad, So it's fine. 0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:28.560 Do you remember the dot com bubble that was based 0:59:28.600 --> 0:59:31.400 on mass illusions about the value of money losing startups? 0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:35.880 Every other financial bubble was also a mass illusion. Well, partly, 0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:38.120 but they were also largely cons like a lot of 0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:40.240 the people who made money on the dot com bubble 0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:44.520 knew it was going to collapse and very intelligently figured 0:59:44.520 --> 0:59:46.360 out how to make as much money as they could 0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:49.640 by taking advantage of dumb people, much like people did 0:59:49.640 --> 0:59:53.120 with crypto or every other financial bubble. Like he's only 0:59:53.160 --> 0:59:55.680 focusing on like the side that's delusion and of the 0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:58.440 side that's bad people trying to take advantage of other 0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:00.280 people also interesting to me. 1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:02.560 Oh, here we go. 1:00:02.600 --> 1:00:04.920 Below is a starter list of more than thirty notable 1:00:05.000 --> 1:00:09.600 mass delutions. Wikipedia lists over thirty examples of mass hysteria 1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:10.440 through years. 1:00:12.000 --> 1:00:18.320 Did he say that his quote Wikipedia? In this Wikipedia 1:00:18.800 --> 1:00:19.600 and now he's. 1:00:19.480 --> 1:00:21.520 Just like, yeah, he's going through the same he's just 1:00:21.600 --> 1:00:25.240 dropping the list he found a Honestly, this is extra. 1:00:25.040 --> 1:00:27.720 English Dictionary describes mass solutions. 1:00:27.920 --> 1:00:30.960 I do have some respect for Scott here because this 1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:34.160 is a really like the next like mini pages of 1:00:34.200 --> 1:00:37.720 the book are just him like summarizing the Wikipedia entry 1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:38.720 for mass illusion. 1:00:39.120 --> 1:00:39.960 And that's an. 1:00:39.760 --> 1:00:42.000 Easy way to write a book. It's hard to write 1:00:42.040 --> 1:00:43.560 a book when you do real research. 1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:47.960 This would get like this would be like like if 1:00:48.000 --> 1:00:49.800 you're trying to submit this in school, it would be 1:00:49.840 --> 1:00:52.520 like sent back. You're like, no, you have to find 1:00:52.520 --> 1:00:57.080 a real You can't cite Wikipedia. You can't. You can't 1:00:57.120 --> 1:00:59.960 explicitly say I got this list from Wikipedia. 1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:05.280 Uh yeah, Uh, it's it's funny anyway. This chunk of 1:01:05.320 --> 1:01:08.200 the book ends on him saying Trump was wrong to 1:01:08.240 --> 1:01:11.080 call climate change a hoax, but he was also right 1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:13.600 because he called out the Paris Climate Accord and it 1:01:13.640 --> 1:01:16.600 was expensive for the US and wouldn't lower temperatures. So 1:01:17.040 --> 1:01:19.320 the fact that Trump said climate change was wrong is 1:01:19.360 --> 1:01:22.520 fine because the Paris Accord was a lie that would 1:01:22.520 --> 1:01:27.160 have benefited China. That's That's Scott Adams's opinion on the 1:01:27.160 --> 1:01:28.160 Paris Climate Accord. 1:01:28.720 --> 1:01:30.760 I'm glad he's changed from being a cartoonist into a 1:01:30.760 --> 1:01:33.040 political anist again. 1:01:33.280 --> 1:01:36.400 I'm glad. I love like switching from Scott being like 1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:39.400 nobody understands politics, which is why I don't give my 1:01:39.440 --> 1:01:42.760 opinions on politics too. The Paris Climate Accord couldn't lower 1:01:42.880 --> 1:01:45.280 like Scott, I don't know, man like his stands. His 1:01:45.880 --> 1:01:48.000 argument is that like no one disagrees with it any 1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:51.360 of this, I don't know. I bet they do. Scott, 1:01:51.960 --> 1:01:54.960 you haven't cited anything here. You just say I agree 1:01:55.000 --> 1:01:56.640 on this, There's there's no citation. 1:01:57.000 --> 1:02:00.120 He's like, yes, side of Wikipedia. 1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:06.920 He did previously site Wikipedia on a separate topic. Okay, 1:02:07.040 --> 1:02:09.360 So what do we want to close out on here? 1:02:10.600 --> 1:02:15.400 Zo? There's so many good ones, Like. 1:02:16.400 --> 1:02:18.560 I do want to know what isis in the Vatican 1:02:18.720 --> 1:02:25.520 means oh God, which is what immediately precedes ros O'Donnell i. 1:02:25.720 --> 1:02:27.960 Also, I also want to briefly look at how to 1:02:28.000 --> 1:02:29.520 design a linguistic kill shot. 1:02:29.760 --> 1:02:32.160 Just oh, you know what I think that this is. 1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:36.320 So this is trump o Trump's Rosio o'donald moment. Okay, 1:02:36.360 --> 1:02:40.000 so yeah, this is like him explaining how Trump's genius 1:02:40.000 --> 1:02:45.440 strategy of like insulting people works. As the election started 1:02:45.480 --> 1:02:47.360 getting traction in all of our minds in the summer 1:02:47.400 --> 1:02:49.760 of twenty fifteen, I was experimenting with a new comic 1:02:49.800 --> 1:02:52.160 that featured a talking robot that never moves, he just 1:02:52.200 --> 1:02:54.280 reads the news. You can see in this comic that 1:02:54.320 --> 1:02:56.880 I had already noticed Trump's successful use of persuasion that 1:02:56.960 --> 1:03:02.360 was confusing the prop the public. And this is Robots 1:03:02.440 --> 1:03:04.919 Read News by Scott Adams, And it is in fact 1:03:04.920 --> 1:03:08.400 a poorly drawn robot reading the news. Donald Trump keeps 1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:11.280 saying dumb things because he is so darned dumb, unlike you. 1:03:11.440 --> 1:03:13.640 He is also surging in the polls while putting almost 1:03:13.640 --> 1:03:16.160 no effort into it. So how is smart working out 1:03:16.200 --> 1:03:18.840 for you? I don't know, man, It does seem like 1:03:18.920 --> 1:03:22.200 he was constantly touring the country and doing events. I 1:03:22.240 --> 1:03:24.480 don't think anyone thought he wasn't putting effort into it. 1:03:26.320 --> 1:03:28.960 I guess this is a real own on the people 1:03:29.000 --> 1:03:32.440 who said that Trump was dumb, which, you know, to 1:03:32.480 --> 1:03:34.800 be fair, I have always thought was a mistake on 1:03:34.840 --> 1:03:36.120 behalf of some Democrats. 1:03:36.160 --> 1:03:37.160 But I don't know. 1:03:38.280 --> 1:03:42.800 Whatever, Scott, it's not really a joke, but we'll give 1:03:42.840 --> 1:03:45.240 you that one. So but I didn't know how big 1:03:45.280 --> 1:03:47.120 a deal this was until what I now called the 1:03:47.240 --> 1:03:50.600 Rosi O'Donnell moment. In the first Republican debate on August sixth, 1:03:50.640 --> 1:03:53.360 twenty fifteen. Megan Kelly was moderating, and her first question 1:03:53.400 --> 1:03:55.400 to Trump should have ended his campaign on the spot. 1:03:55.720 --> 1:03:58.080 Only a few people in the world could have escaped 1:03:58.120 --> 1:04:00.440 her trap started. 1:04:00.520 --> 1:04:03.120 Okay, okay, yeah. 1:04:03.000 --> 1:04:05.120 So what Megan Kelly was like, you call women you 1:04:05.160 --> 1:04:08.080 don't like fat pigs, slogs or disgusting animals, and Trump 1:04:08.080 --> 1:04:13.240 said only Rosie o'donald, right or o'donald. Sorry. 1:04:13.440 --> 1:04:14.120 Yeah. Uh. 1:04:15.320 --> 1:04:19.800 Scott calls this a master stroke of persuasion executed perfectly 1:04:19.840 --> 1:04:23.800 in front of the world. He got goosebumps. Oh what 1:04:24.200 --> 1:04:27.840 the mask? He insulted somebody he like, made a mean joke. 1:04:28.040 --> 1:04:31.880 People do that all the time. I got they don't 1:04:31.920 --> 1:04:34.120 usually do it while running for president, but they do 1:04:34.200 --> 1:04:34.880 it all the time. 1:04:36.800 --> 1:04:38.560 I like that. I guess Scott describes this as like 1:04:38.640 --> 1:04:40.680 as like a transcendent experience for him. 1:04:41.000 --> 1:04:45.000 Yeah. Yeah, he's like full body orgasming over Donald Trump 1:04:45.080 --> 1:04:49.600 making a mean comment about Rosio Donald thinking of his joke. Yeah, 1:04:50.120 --> 1:04:55.840 it's uh, it's it's it's fun. So yeah, that's Trump's 1:04:55.840 --> 1:04:59.360 weapons grade persuasion is insulting Rosy o'donald during an interview 1:04:59.360 --> 1:05:03.560 with Megan Kell, an interview largely made for people who 1:05:03.640 --> 1:05:07.720 were already voting for him, that I don't know if 1:05:07.720 --> 1:05:11.480 I think actually convinced anybody of anything, but you know, again, 1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:14.320 there's always like pieces of accuracy here. Yeah. One of 1:05:14.360 --> 1:05:16.880 the things about Trump's political strategy was effective was that 1:05:16.920 --> 1:05:19.400 he didn't do the normal thing of like apologizing and 1:05:19.520 --> 1:05:24.160 backtracking when criticized, which is you know, effective. It allows 1:05:24.160 --> 1:05:27.160 you to spend less time dealing with like the the 1:05:27.200 --> 1:05:31.200 critiques of your of your political opponents. It's again also 1:05:31.320 --> 1:05:36.080 a pretty well worn political strategy, particularly for authoritarians. It's 1:05:36.120 --> 1:05:41.720 not wildly new, but there you go. That's that's Scott 1:05:41.760 --> 1:05:47.080 Adams explaining how Trump persuaded America by calling Rose O'Donnell fat, 1:05:47.520 --> 1:05:50.640 a thing no no other comedian had ever done before. 1:05:51.040 --> 1:05:53.720 I think that multiple South Park episodes never did. 1:05:55.200 --> 1:05:57.240 Oh there, there is there is an index at the 1:05:57.320 --> 1:05:59.000 very end of the book that I have access to. 1:05:59.760 --> 1:06:05.880 They they cite black Swan, So that's good. That's it's good. Yeah, 1:06:05.920 --> 1:06:09.480 he's index. Yeah, is a mix to the back. He 1:06:09.560 --> 1:06:13.800 cites Delvert one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, 1:06:13.800 --> 1:06:17.320 thirty forty. He sites Delbert fourteen times. 1:06:17.840 --> 1:06:18.760 Yeah, that makes sense. 1:06:20.200 --> 1:06:22.840 He cites Donald Duck and trying to swap back to back. 1:06:22.920 --> 1:06:27.200 That's good. The KKKA has a few shoutouts. The last 1:06:27.200 --> 1:06:29.880 thing I do want to see is, let me is 1:06:30.120 --> 1:06:33.200 is the how to design a linguistic kill shop? Because 1:06:33.240 --> 1:06:36.480 I think we should at least give listeners one piece 1:06:36.520 --> 1:06:38.320 of actionable advice. 1:06:38.680 --> 1:06:40.640 Yeah, so they can do that so that you can 1:06:40.720 --> 1:06:44.120 keep a linguistic kill shop loaded up, and can somebody 1:06:44.160 --> 1:06:45.480 like mugs you on the street. 1:06:45.720 --> 1:06:50.919 You can conceal carry it actually fairly easily shoulder. That's 1:06:50.920 --> 1:06:53.560 on page one. Okay. 1:06:55.000 --> 1:06:57.200 Over the course of the election, we saw Trump assign 1:06:57.280 --> 1:07:00.480 one sticky nickname after another to his opponents. It seems 1:07:00.480 --> 1:07:02.840 as if each new nickname was a winner. Clinton's team 1:07:02.840 --> 1:07:05.400 tried a few nicknames for Trump, but they failed badly. 1:07:05.760 --> 1:07:08.920 None of this is a coincidence. Trump's nicknames are deeply engineered, 1:07:08.960 --> 1:07:11.480 and they were tested in front of life audiences. And 1:07:11.520 --> 1:07:14.240 then he goes and like, I do think actually, if 1:07:14.280 --> 1:07:16.200 you're looking at like, what are things that Trump did 1:07:16.200 --> 1:07:18.920 that made him a successful campaigner? His ability to like, 1:07:19.000 --> 1:07:21.640 that's part of why I don't think that Ron DeSantis 1:07:21.720 --> 1:07:23.800 has any chance of beating him. 1:07:23.920 --> 1:07:25.200 Is putting putting her on? 1:07:26.080 --> 1:07:31.920 Yeah, putting her on, and then it's over. Then it's done. Yeah, 1:07:31.960 --> 1:07:33.720 So let's let's let's let's give him here. 1:07:34.920 --> 1:07:35.680 Yeah. 1:07:36.120 --> 1:07:39.600 It's also like the most obvious tactic that he engages in. 1:07:40.400 --> 1:07:41.400 But here we go. 1:07:42.640 --> 1:07:45.520 Wow, he has two Elizabeth Warren nicknames on here. 1:07:45.920 --> 1:07:52.480 Oh, No, that's good. I bet you. I bet they's 1:07:52.560 --> 1:07:53.560 somehow racist. 1:07:54.280 --> 1:07:56.280 It is interesting he doesn't have any of his nicknames 1:07:56.280 --> 1:08:00.680 for Biden on here, maybe because against Biden. 1:08:00.960 --> 1:08:03.120 Yeah, Biden was not a big player in twenty seventeen. 1:08:03.480 --> 1:08:06.760 Yeah, Anna, I think you're right. Uh yeah, if you 1:08:06.760 --> 1:08:08.800 thought the names were nothing more than common insults, you 1:08:08.840 --> 1:08:11.200 missed a lot of his persuasion engineering. I'll walk you 1:08:11.240 --> 1:08:14.000 through it in this chapter. How powerful were Trump's nicknames? 1:08:14.280 --> 1:08:16.800 So powerful that the day I heard Trump say low energy, 1:08:16.880 --> 1:08:19.479 Jeb I predicted Bush was done and blogged that opinion 1:08:19.520 --> 1:08:22.720 in August twenty seventh. Keep in mind that literally no 1:08:22.800 --> 1:08:25.000 other pundits saw this nickname as important to the like 1:08:25.120 --> 1:08:29.040 now that lady is true, but also everyone who saw 1:08:29.240 --> 1:08:32.080 from the moment I saw Jeb Bush on the fucking 1:08:32.080 --> 1:08:33.880 debate stage, I said, well, this is a guy who 1:08:33.880 --> 1:08:37.640 can't be president. He was like everyone knew, he was pitiful. 1:08:37.960 --> 1:08:41.120 I liked there were some I like that he raims. 1:08:41.439 --> 1:08:45.600 I like I like that he frames like listening to 1:08:45.680 --> 1:08:47.799 Trump as like reading tarot carts. 1:08:48.240 --> 1:08:51.760 Yeah, it is interesting because again, there's a reasonable case 1:08:51.760 --> 1:08:53.679 to be made for talking about the way in which 1:08:53.760 --> 1:08:57.640 Trump uses insults and mockery as a political strategy, but 1:08:58.360 --> 1:09:01.439 like being like, and that's why Jim Bush isn't the president. No, 1:09:01.520 --> 1:09:03.679 Jeb Bush is the president because he was never going 1:09:03.720 --> 1:09:06.759 to be the president. That was never in the cars 1:09:07.160 --> 1:09:12.799 because he is jib Bush. It's that's that's so funny. 1:09:13.200 --> 1:09:14.640 Uh uh. 1:09:15.760 --> 1:09:21.439 He just talks about why the nicknames are accurate nicknames. Okay, yeah, 1:09:22.040 --> 1:09:23.360 that's that's that's good. 1:09:26.280 --> 1:09:30.479 Yeah. 1:09:30.600 --> 1:09:33.599 Do you want him to read him analyzing lion Ted 1:09:33.760 --> 1:09:35.080 for three pages? 1:09:36.520 --> 1:09:39.240 He does. He does a three page analysis of lying 1:09:39.320 --> 1:09:40.679 Ted lying Ted? 1:09:43.479 --> 1:09:47.840 What does include the sentence lion Ted simply looked like 1:09:47.920 --> 1:09:53.599 a liar. Look, he's not always wrong. And I saw 1:09:53.680 --> 1:09:55.880 Ted Cruz, I was like, that guy is a liar. 1:09:56.160 --> 1:09:58.080 I like him. We can always turn to Scott Adams 1:09:58.120 --> 1:10:01.160 for this cutting edge political analysis. 1:10:01.240 --> 1:10:08.960 Absolutely, yeah, it's it's also funny. Like part of what's 1:10:08.960 --> 1:10:13.520 fun about these nicknames isn't that like they're they're super complex, 1:10:13.680 --> 1:10:17.360 and it isn't that they engineer opinion. It's that it's 1:10:17.439 --> 1:10:21.200 so easy to like cut people who are kind of 1:10:21.240 --> 1:10:26.800 obsessed with the like playing at being at the politests 1:10:26.880 --> 1:10:32.679 of like a political etiquette and just being a dick 1:10:32.960 --> 1:10:35.240 is powerful, right, if you're playing a different game than 1:10:35.280 --> 1:10:39.120 everyone else. Yeah, that's powerful, but also like it only 1:10:39.160 --> 1:10:41.960 worked the one time. He tried all of this again 1:10:42.120 --> 1:10:44.840 in twenty twenty, and he lost by the most that 1:10:44.920 --> 1:10:47.559 any president has ever lost in terms of like like 1:10:47.760 --> 1:10:48.639 actual votes. 1:10:48.960 --> 1:10:52.360 Okay, I'm at the end of the book now. I 1:10:52.400 --> 1:10:56.519 just found I just found three amazing, amazing things back 1:10:56.560 --> 1:10:59.240 to back. So at the very end, after the acknowledgments, 1:10:59.280 --> 1:11:03.720 there is there's like four appendixes, but the first three 1:11:03.760 --> 1:11:05.920 are the ones that I think are really interesting. The 1:11:05.960 --> 1:11:09.200 first one is the Persuasion Reading List, which might have 1:11:09.280 --> 1:11:12.920 some really funny finds. At the end, there's also the 1:11:13.320 --> 1:11:15.880 Appendix B is how to be a better writer. It's 1:11:15.880 --> 1:11:23.040 two pages long. And then Appendix C is how to 1:11:23.240 --> 1:11:25.320 find out if you are in a simulation. 1:11:26.080 --> 1:11:28.439 Yeah, yeah, I was looking at that just a second ago. 1:11:31.000 --> 1:11:33.599 So you can first of all, get a get get 1:11:33.640 --> 1:11:35.680 a list of books to read, become a become a 1:11:35.680 --> 1:11:37.960 better writer, and then find out if you're living in 1:11:37.960 --> 1:11:41.960 a computer. All within the span of seven fass. 1:11:41.960 --> 1:11:47.599 Ikun approached writing a fucking non fiction book, I think, 1:11:47.600 --> 1:11:49.920 and I think he literally Appendix C is just one 1:11:49.960 --> 1:11:52.880 of his old blog posts that he's quoting, he talks about, 1:11:53.080 --> 1:12:00.760 he talks about simulation theory. Man, oh god, yeah, I'm 1:12:00.840 --> 1:12:05.080 not interested in anything less than I am fucking brained 1:12:05.120 --> 1:12:09.200 idiots talking about the theory that we live in a simulation. 1:12:10.160 --> 1:12:15.920 Uh you know what's simulated, your fucking dick, Scott, this podcast, 1:12:15.960 --> 1:12:17.000 your weird. 1:12:16.840 --> 1:12:18.160 Penis is a simulation. 1:12:20.000 --> 1:12:22.000 Yeah, that's that's That's what I gotta say. 1:12:22.000 --> 1:12:23.679 Well, I think I think I think you should find 1:12:23.760 --> 1:12:27.280 one book on on the reading list that we should recommend, 1:12:27.320 --> 1:12:30.799 and then give one one writing tip via Scott Adams, 1:12:30.800 --> 1:12:32.719 and then we can call it a day. Okay. 1:12:33.200 --> 1:12:35.720 His writing tip is to write whatever you're writing the 1:12:35.720 --> 1:12:37.880 way Trump writes things, because are you writer? 1:12:37.960 --> 1:12:43.439 Are you serious? Yes? Trump's not a good writer. 1:12:45.280 --> 1:12:48.679 I think there is like a difference between like Trump 1:12:48.960 --> 1:12:52.240 was effective at a good ship poster on Twitter and 1:12:52.280 --> 1:12:54.479 Trump was objectively a great ship. 1:12:54.280 --> 1:12:55.880 Post yea, but not on purpose. 1:12:57.640 --> 1:13:00.760 I don't know we can debate that. But also I 1:13:00.800 --> 1:13:04.519 don't think like it's kind of like saying like how 1:13:04.520 --> 1:13:06.000 to be a better right now, how to be a 1:13:06.040 --> 1:13:09.160 better poster on Twitter? Like I would take you can 1:13:09.160 --> 1:13:13.000 take you can take Donald Trump's advice on that writing 1:13:13.200 --> 1:13:16.240 is a little bit wider of a discipline, and you 1:13:16.320 --> 1:13:18.840 might wind up having some difficulty if you if you 1:13:18.880 --> 1:13:21.639 try to take the Donald Trump approach to I don't know, 1:13:22.560 --> 1:13:25.880 becoming an editor on Wikipedia so that Scott Adams will 1:13:25.880 --> 1:13:30.760 appreciate your work. Nothing against Wikipedia, it's just funny that 1:13:30.760 --> 1:13:37.280 that's the only source he's cited other than Plato. Okay, 1:13:37.280 --> 1:13:42.760 here's some other advice that he has. Uh, your first 1:13:42.760 --> 1:13:44.920 sentence needs to grab the reader. Go back and read 1:13:44.960 --> 1:13:46.880 my first sentence in this post. I rewrote it a 1:13:46.880 --> 1:13:48.519 dozen times. It makes you curious. 1:13:48.560 --> 1:13:49.080 That's the key. 1:13:49.120 --> 1:13:52.400 His first sentence is good writing is also persuasive writing. 1:13:52.800 --> 1:13:59.120 Jesus Christ, Scott, that's the dry shit I've ever heard. 1:13:59.200 --> 1:13:59.800 Oh my god. 1:14:01.479 --> 1:14:05.080 So for his his on his persuasion reading list, I 1:14:05.160 --> 1:14:08.680 accidentally wound up on this, but it includes how to 1:14:08.760 --> 1:14:12.920 Hypnotize Anyone, Confessions of a Rogue Hypnotist, and then in brackets, 1:14:13.120 --> 1:14:18.240 I have not read this book, but what it probably 1:14:18.320 --> 1:14:20.559 gives you a good taste of the topic. 1:14:24.800 --> 1:14:28.439 That's so funny. He's recommending a book he hasn't read 1:14:29.520 --> 1:14:37.880 and he admits it. Yeah, he didn't even read reading list. 1:14:37.960 --> 1:14:39.639 It's probably a good idea. I don't know. 1:14:40.479 --> 1:14:45.080 He admits there's a Tony Robbins book on here. Yeah, 1:14:46.080 --> 1:14:50.040 Trump The Art of the Deal, of course, Yeah, tells 1:14:50.080 --> 1:14:52.559 you to take a fucking Dale Carnegie class. 1:14:53.600 --> 1:14:58.400 Uh great, Yeah, that that tracks. 1:14:58.439 --> 1:15:05.320 Yeah, good stuff. So yeah, I think that's that's a 1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:07.160 good look at Scott Adams's book. 1:15:08.120 --> 1:15:10.200 Yeah, I think, I think I think that is a 1:15:10.320 --> 1:15:13.840 that is a decent a decent dive into the mind 1:15:13.880 --> 1:15:14.880 of Scott Adams. 1:15:14.960 --> 1:15:17.439 Are you ready to go into the world now, Garrison 1:15:17.479 --> 1:15:19.160 and become a master persuader? 1:15:20.120 --> 1:15:23.120 Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna be working on my I think, 1:15:23.160 --> 1:15:26.080 I I think if I get I mean organ does 1:15:26.120 --> 1:15:29.360 not have the does not have the round capacity limit yet, 1:15:29.360 --> 1:15:31.800 because I'm trying to figure out how many linguistic kill 1:15:31.800 --> 1:15:34.719 shots I'm allowed to carry with me at at any 1:15:34.760 --> 1:15:35.360 point in time. 1:15:36.560 --> 1:15:38.519 But once Yeah, yes, I think you can still have 1:15:38.600 --> 1:15:43.240 thirty linguistic kills loaded and in violation of state law. 1:15:44.320 --> 1:15:46.800 So I'll spend it. I'll spend it. I'll spend a 1:15:46.800 --> 1:15:48.400 few hours coming up with those so I can just 1:15:48.439 --> 1:15:53.200 have them at the ready. Yeah. 1:15:53.520 --> 1:15:56.320 I'm just gonna call people low energy, Jeb, even if 1:15:56.320 --> 1:15:57.040 they're not named. 1:16:02.240 --> 1:16:02.360 Uh. 1:16:02.880 --> 1:16:09.000 That was the that that that was pretty funny. Okay, 1:16:09.400 --> 1:16:12.320 so uh yeah, that's uh, that's our man. 1:16:12.640 --> 1:16:15.000 Garrison, you would like to plug. 1:16:16.840 --> 1:16:18.920 I guess the one thing I could plug is I 1:16:19.120 --> 1:16:22.040 recently on It could Happen Here, I finished a shocking 1:16:22.960 --> 1:16:27.360 five episodes worth of content about about the the last 1:16:27.439 --> 1:16:30.400 week of action in Atlanta to stop cop City. I 1:16:30.400 --> 1:16:32.559 believe we should have that put into a compilation as 1:16:32.560 --> 1:16:35.559 well by now. But yeah, that that is. That is 1:16:35.720 --> 1:16:37.720 on the you could Happen Here feed for the last 1:16:37.720 --> 1:16:40.559 week of action. And uh, I mean as of as 1:16:40.600 --> 1:16:44.799 of recording, the the city council process to to approve 1:16:44.800 --> 1:16:47.120 the funding for that is ongoing. There's been there was 1:16:47.120 --> 1:16:49.479 like five hundred people showing up I think like just 1:16:49.520 --> 1:16:52.880 like two days ago as of time of recording to 1:16:53.120 --> 1:16:56.439 give public comment. And that's that process is gonna last 1:16:56.479 --> 1:16:58.559 a few more weeks, so we will see, we will 1:16:58.600 --> 1:17:01.639 see how how that goes. You can you can keep 1:17:01.720 --> 1:17:03.920 up to date with that with the with the Atlantic 1:17:03.960 --> 1:17:07.439 Community Press Collective. So yeah, that is that is it? 1:17:08.360 --> 1:17:16.960 Excellent? Well you can find me, yeah we can mm hmmm. 1:17:18.960 --> 1:17:24.479 Bye. 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