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Speaker 1: We've talked AI before with Marshall Blackburn, but it takes

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Speaker 1: on new meeting after this meeting yesterday, Senator, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Bloomberg. We appreciate your time here. I wonder to

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Speaker 1: what extent this was an important moment, not so much

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Speaker 1: for the drive to regulate, but just to get everyone's

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Speaker 1: attention on a critical matter. What was it like to

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Speaker 2: Well, it was good to have everyone assembled before us.

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Speaker 2: It was appropriate that we turn our attention in a

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Speaker 2: more fulsome way to the issue of emerging technologies and

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Speaker 2: whether it is blockchain or quantum computing or AI, the US,

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Speaker 2: if we're going to maintain our leadership, we need to

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Speaker 2: step up and say what can we do that is

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Speaker 2: going to be helpful so that the private sector does

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Speaker 2: what they do best, which is to innovate and to

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Speaker 2: bring forth these ideas, build these companies and then create

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Speaker 2: those jobs and that tech leadership that is prized globally.

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Speaker 3: So, Senator, as you say, it was important to just

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Speaker 3: kind of highlight the need to do something here. It

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Speaker 3: just becomes a question of how quickly something is actually

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Speaker 3: going to be able to be done. Senator Schumer said

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Speaker 3: he would like to see this addressed in months, not years.

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Speaker 3: What's your degree of confidence that an actual regulatory framework

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Speaker 3: legislation is going to be passed by the Senate anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: Well, we have to realize that the EU does have

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Speaker 2: a federal privacy standard which we are yet to pass,

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Speaker 2: and everyone says that's got to be building block number one.

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Speaker 2: And the EU is ready to pass their AI Act

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Speaker 2: as they're calling it, and this will put their framework

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Speaker 2: in place. So the US does over the next few months,

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Speaker 2: need to do a National Online Consumer Privacy Bill which

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Speaker 2: allows people to keep their information out of that open

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Speaker 2: source network. That would allow them to build a firewall

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Speaker 2: around their content. We also need to do a data

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Speaker 2: security bill, and then we need the rules of the

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Speaker 2: road for AI and making certain that the environment that

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Speaker 2: you've got a referee as it was referred to many

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Speaker 2: times yesterday that is there to call those balls and

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Speaker 2: strikes and make certain that that environment stays healthy for innovators.

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Speaker 2: We've talked to people over the last couple of days

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Speaker 2: that have chosen to establish their country their company in

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Speaker 2: the US rather than elsewhere because they want to protect

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Speaker 2: their intellectual property. So they have chosen here. We need

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Speaker 2: to make certain that we keep that robust environment.

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Speaker 1: Senator, I know that you've not always been a fan

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Speaker 1: of big tech, particularly the social media companies. I wonder

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Speaker 1: was yesterday's exercise an opportunity to learn from these executives

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Speaker 1: or to put them on notice.

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Speaker 2: It was a wonderful opportunity to learn from them, to

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Speaker 2: see how they see the utilizations of AI. You know,

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Speaker 2: we have lived with AI for years. We've talked about

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Speaker 2: AI and applications, facial recognitions, auto correct, auto fill, voice assists.

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Speaker 2: All of those things are AI applications. And in my

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Speaker 2: state of Tennessee, whether it's the healthcare industry, the logistics industry,

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Speaker 2: auto manufacturing, there are so many utilizations of AI. Also,

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Speaker 2: we have our entertainers, songwriters, singers, musicians, authors, publishers who

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Speaker 2: are very concerned about what is going to happen with

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Speaker 2: voice cloning, with concepts like chat, GPT or juke box,

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Speaker 2: and how that may rob them of the potential their

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Speaker 2: constitutional right to benefit from their creations. So getting everybody

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Speaker 2: in the room, giving everyone some education. Not everybody works

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Speaker 2: on these issues all the time like members like I have,

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Speaker 2: and it is important for people to have an understanding

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Speaker 2: so they have that foundation and we can begin to

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Speaker 2: move forward on this legislation with an understanding of why

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Speaker 2: it is important.

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Speaker 3: Senator, we could continue this conversation with you all day,

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Speaker 3: but as the AI conversation is moving forward, there are

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Speaker 3: some things that just aren't moving at all in the

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Speaker 3: US Senate right now, including military promotions and nominations. Thanks

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Speaker 3: to your Republican colleague, Senator Tommy Tupperville, what's your message

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Speaker 3: to him right now should this continue?

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Speaker 2: Well, the message is to Leader Schumer, who, as even

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Speaker 2: some of the Democrats have said, look, let's begin to

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Speaker 2: put these on the floor and let's call the vote today.

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Speaker 2: We have had one vote, we had one vote on Monday.

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Speaker 2: There have been opportunities to put these nominations on the

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Speaker 2: floor and call them. And also Senator Tuberville has said,

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Speaker 2: if you've got the command team over at DoD that

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Speaker 2: would sit down with him discuss the policy, that they

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Speaker 2: could probably work this out.

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Speaker 1: Do you worry about military families in Tennessee who are

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Speaker 1: in temporary housing or might have missed a pay increase

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Speaker 1: because of these delays.

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Speaker 2: We are always concerned about our military families, and we

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Speaker 2: continue to work with our military families. That's one of

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Speaker 2: the reasons we work so hard on getting the NDAA

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Speaker 2: our men and women in uniform.

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Speaker 1: I've got to ask you about the matter of impeachment, Senator.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if you're preparing to receive an impeachment referral.

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Speaker 1: And I'm asking you this as we just learned that

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden has been indicted on gun charges. I know

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Speaker 1: these two are not related, but it's hard to ask

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Speaker 1: you about one and not the other.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and on the impeachment, I appreciate why Leader McCarthy

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Speaker 2: felt like he needed to move forward with this and

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Speaker 2: why of the House members who were on these committees

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Speaker 2: wanted to move forward with the inquiry. They need to

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Speaker 2: preserve their ability to issue subpenis and to have those

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Speaker 2: acted upon, and because of that, they needed to move

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Speaker 2: forward with the impeachment inquiry. I think that you will

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Speaker 2: see them continue to gather information and to determine what

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Speaker 2: is alleged, what actually transpired, and really kind of build

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Speaker 2: those threads out. The American people want answers on this.

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Speaker 2: They want to know what the then Vice president did

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Speaker 2: in conjunction with Hunter Biden, and also with Biden incorporated.

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Speaker 2: And when it comes to under Hunter Biden and these indictments,

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Speaker 2: I am certain that they chose to go with the

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Speaker 2: gun charges first, the three charges that are in this indictment,

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Speaker 2: because they don't want to be pulling the president in

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Speaker 2: for depositions.

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Speaker 3: Senator, just quickly, do you not worry about the president

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Speaker 3: that could be being set here just impeaching one president

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Speaker 3: after another depending on what party is in control of

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Speaker 3: the House.

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Speaker 2: We always worry about precedent that is set and many

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Speaker 2: of us try to continue to work across the aisle,

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Speaker 2: and we I spend a good bit of time working

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Speaker 2: on legislation and efforts that I have to make them bipartisan,

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Speaker 2: because bipartisan legislation is going to stick. And making certain

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Speaker 2: that you are writing legislation that is going to be

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Speaker 2: good for Tennesseeans in all Americans, that is going to

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Speaker 2: improve the quality of life for Tennesseeans and all Americans.

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Speaker 2: That is something vitally important to me.

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Speaker 1: Senator. We appreciate your coming to talk to us about

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Speaker 1: all matters of import including artificial intelligence. That's a conversation

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Speaker 1: that will not be going away, and we'll stay in

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Speaker 1: touch with Marshall Blackburn from Tennessee