Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast Jerry NFL Network through the
Speaker 1: off season, right from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. Dan Hands is here with
Speaker 1: Greg Brosenthal, Mark Sessler. Um, here we are week seven.
Speaker 1: Later tonight, Mark Sessler and mystery guests. We'll discuss Brown's
Speaker 1: Broncos and that will be great. And then we have
Speaker 1: an entire slate of games, but not really because we've
Speaker 1: got six teams on buy. So uh, the schedule takes
Speaker 1: a little bit of a breather here. Uh, And that's nice. Greg.
Speaker 1: We get to focus up a little bit more on
Speaker 1: Sunday and teams get to get healthy. That's nice too.
Speaker 1: It does feel like a big weight off the shoulders
Speaker 1: for some reason. It's a big deal. But we're not
Speaker 1: doing them the math thing anymore, where you figure out
Speaker 1: how many teams, because it's a new equation at this
Speaker 1: at this stage, here we go fresh math teams play
Speaker 1: already six games the mind twelve games to talk about matters.
Speaker 1: Got it? You know you nailed it? Still got it? Baby? Alright?
Speaker 1: So good stuff, Greg, Um, good job wearing purple today.
Speaker 1: You are a ally, as they say, yeah to give
Speaker 1: the listeners context. I think it's it's um, it's a
Speaker 1: ware purple day. It's a ware purple day to support
Speaker 1: the LGBT community. And you guys didn't. Yeah. Yeah, Mark
Speaker 1: and Dan were actually texting this morning and they were like,
Speaker 1: I'm not wearing purple, Like there's no way. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a little showy. And Greg not only wearing
Speaker 1: a purple tie, but then a pin that wardrobe gave me.
Speaker 1: He doesn't even know what the pen means. Just it's like,
Speaker 1: what is great means an ally something and you're not it?
Speaker 1: Actually they said that is it like this? If there's
Speaker 1: ever there's as a thirsty ally, it's Greg. I mean
Speaker 1: we got we got like seven emails about it. I
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna say a word. There was signs up around
Speaker 1: the building and say just do it. You don't say anything.
Speaker 1: You don't make a big deal. You're the one making
Speaker 1: a big deal. Hold on because you're insecure about your prejudice.
Speaker 1: And also also I would just say, as a note
Speaker 1: to the to the organizers, yeah, I mean you're suggesting that,
Speaker 1: like you you you know. Erica sent a fire text
Speaker 1: to us yesterday telling us that we must show up
Speaker 1: in purple. Well, I absolutely wouldn't. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: own in purple. I don't own purple clothes. I told
Speaker 1: you to go to Target. You could go down to
Speaker 1: wardrobe and you could get handkerchief. I had a thunder
Speaker 1: Dan Marley Jersey for the Sun's I don't know where
Speaker 1: that is. That was the last time I had something
Speaker 1: purpose that's yours, I know. But do you know I'm
Speaker 1: an ally and a supporter of you and the entire community.
Speaker 1: Right your angle on it is aggressive, Mark Um, you
Speaker 1: told me to perish before the show. I was connected
Speaker 1: to the That was life style. This is the last
Speaker 1: show of the Round the NFL podcast. We hope you
Speaker 1: enjoy it. Um, Okay, good good job. Greg was having
Speaker 1: some fun. You are. Yeah, the next edition will be
Speaker 1: just be me, Colleen and Erica. It's gonna be like
Speaker 1: split around the Split Ends. And we heard by the
Speaker 1: way that there's there's percolation out there that the Split
Speaker 1: Ends podcast is doing well. And and that's fine that
Speaker 1: the new podcast with Erica Tampost and Colleen Wolfe has
Speaker 1: been successful. But I need a data dive, grave digger,
Speaker 1: can you get on the microsecond? And we got so
Speaker 1: many games to get to. But there's some important stuff
Speaker 1: we've gotta talk about. You, Grave Digger, what's up? Hey,
Speaker 1: how's it going? Ricky? Don't listen? Um, I need you
Speaker 1: to do a data deep dive analytics style to make
Speaker 1: sure that the numbers that Ricky and Connie are getting
Speaker 1: off this podcast aren't shaving off the backs of our shows. Numbers.
Speaker 1: You're saying you don't want listeners tuning out of a
Speaker 1: t n just to tune into our numbers are dipping
Speaker 1: in correlation with the arrival of the show. That show
Speaker 1: needs to go away executed, especially the Tuesday show. I
Speaker 1: think that's when you can really Okay, you could give
Speaker 1: Ricky headset back, but just if you could do that
Speaker 1: for me, Grave Digger, it's a it's a really good show.
Speaker 1: We heard. I mean, it's also taken over our Instagram
Speaker 1: page and uh, you know that's fine. Just you know
Speaker 1: it's I have heavily advertised I have not missed an
Speaker 1: episode yet, so I would assume all listeners are in
Speaker 1: the same boat. Can I trust you for this? No?
Speaker 1: She he works for her, she's his boss. You can
Speaker 1: trust nobody. That's true. All right, let's get to it.
Speaker 1: Week seven usually start with the prime time games, but
Speaker 1: they don't do much for me. I don't know about you, guys.
Speaker 1: We'll get to them very They're solid, but unspectacular. So
Speaker 1: let's start with the draft and UM. This week, Greg
Speaker 1: picks number one. I picked two, Mark picks three. Now,
Speaker 1: if you listen to them to the Tuesday show, you'll
Speaker 1: know there was a trade that went down Greg to
Speaker 1: get back Chargers Ravens last week. Gave me three opportunities.
Speaker 1: This is the agreement to jump him at any point,
Speaker 1: and I get to use those whenever I wish. Greggy,
Speaker 1: I'm using one right here. I'm jumping. Yeah. I'm curious
Speaker 1: for what well say. I wouldn't call it UM the
Speaker 1: A plus state of the year, but I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: it on the two best teams in the NFC North. Okay,
Speaker 1: it wasn't my pick since Pat Baltimore. There you go.
Speaker 1: We'll start right there, the Bengals at the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that that's not your first pick, and I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit upset. I don't think you're telling the truth.
Speaker 1: M And I'll explain why a minute. Anyway, here we go,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, first place in the a f
Speaker 1: C North on the line, and I'm so excited for
Speaker 1: this mark because the Bengals are a great story obviously
Speaker 1: right now, and they are playing very well. They're playing
Speaker 1: well against good competition. Now this is a big test though.
Speaker 1: You go on the road to Baltimore, who is playing
Speaker 1: lights out right now. They've won five games in a row.
Speaker 1: They just embarrassed the Chargers. Um So, if the Bengals
Speaker 1: are indeed for real and a team that we should
Speaker 1: look when we start to look ahead and take a
Speaker 1: peek at the playoff picture and all that, is Cincinnati
Speaker 1: a nice story or an actual player in this thing.
Speaker 1: How they perform on Sunday is going to go a
Speaker 1: long way for me personally. Yeah, I think it's a
Speaker 1: chance for the Bengals to announce to everyone, for people
Speaker 1: that haven't been tracking them that closely, Hey look at us.
Speaker 1: We're spicy, our bodies are spicy. We are a team
Speaker 1: to contend with, and you're getting a peak version of
Speaker 1: the rave which bodies specifically, I'm in a pro athletes,
Speaker 1: I would whole host of that compared to other teams.
Speaker 1: Are I think they do they are probably spicier than
Speaker 1: ever physically. Um, that one was just sometimes you'll throw
Speaker 1: bodies and things like that. But that one really stood
Speaker 1: out for some reason because it's this because this team
Speaker 1: is standing out and it's not just you know, it's
Speaker 1: not just Joe Burrow and Jamaar Chase. I think their
Speaker 1: offense is so resilient, though there is something different with Burrow,
Speaker 1: who just wants the ball at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: And I think they are they are not. They talked
Speaker 1: about Jamar Chase said that last week. The attitude in
Speaker 1: this locker room is we will step on people's next
Speaker 1: We're going to take people out. And that's not been
Speaker 1: how you've thought about the Bengals forever. And this is
Speaker 1: the ascid test. And it's not just offense, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's lou and a Rumo, who Greg announced in our newsroom.
Speaker 1: Uh mentioned his name on NFL Network. You're right, how
Speaker 1: often does that happen? Greg? Not too often. But this
Speaker 1: defense is the fifth fewest points allowed league wide. They've
Speaker 1: been really good against the run. That's totally different when
Speaker 1: you play Lamar Jackson and Ravens backfield. That despite having
Speaker 1: like the entire cast wiped out. They run the ball
Speaker 1: really well with some of those backs the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks they they have, and yet I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna need to throw it to win this game. I
Speaker 1: don't really trust that running game totally yet. Outside of
Speaker 1: Lamar and I think if you look at the Bengals,
Speaker 1: like you said, a good rush defense, I think Rashad
Speaker 1: Bateman being back makes a difference. You know, he came
Speaker 1: in last week, he had six targets, looked competent, and
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins comes back eventually. I trust the Bengals defense though,
Speaker 1: to keep this game close. This number I think is
Speaker 1: six six and a half. Like I like the Bengals
Speaker 1: to keep it closer in that because of the defense.
Speaker 1: But it's the offense that I have bigger questions on
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati because I just think they need to have
Speaker 1: a little more dimensions. I want to see him against
Speaker 1: a blitzing type defense like Baltimore. I remember that nightmare
Speaker 1: game they had against the Ravens a year ago where
Speaker 1: Burrow and Zach Taylor and the offensive line was flummixed
Speaker 1: about everything they sent. And I love Jamar Chase, but
Speaker 1: I'd like to see a little more dimensions. You're not
Speaker 1: getting Tee Higgins involved, Y're not getting Boyd involved, and
Speaker 1: they are starting to get Chris Evans involved, who I
Speaker 1: really like as this pass catching back spice Rack is
Speaker 1: a huge fan, like great hands, moves really well. They
Speaker 1: might have found like a Geo Bernard upgrade in this kid,
Speaker 1: Chris Evans, But it's the offense I don't quite trust
Speaker 1: as much. And you know, uh, I like their roster
Speaker 1: though beyond I know, I love their big three, like
Speaker 1: you're saying that Joe Mix and Jamaar, Chase, Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: They're gonna win a lot of games if those guys
Speaker 1: stay healthier at least score a lot of points. But
Speaker 1: there's I think Boyd's a player. I think t Higgins.
Speaker 1: The're good that they're not getting involved that much like
Speaker 1: the two of them combined. The artis and it's not
Speaker 1: close to what Chase has a right Well, maybe this
Speaker 1: will change any other thoughts on the Ravens. By the way,
Speaker 1: who would you just more broad question, who would you
Speaker 1: rather have for the next ten years at quarterback? Burrow
Speaker 1: or Lamar oh Lamar by far, I mean he's already
Speaker 1: won an m v P and he's on plate pace
Speaker 1: for another Burrow has set a really great bassline with
Speaker 1: his sixteen games, But I don't know if he's going
Speaker 1: to be special. I guess. I mean, is it cliche
Speaker 1: to wonder physically where Lamar would be eight years from
Speaker 1: now with the way that they could just count well
Speaker 1: Joe Burrows and the exploded last year, that's fair. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I I'm thinking about the next three year half
Speaker 1: because you have to say Lamar. But I think Burrow
Speaker 1: has been in one of the better stories of the
Speaker 1: a f C after that awful August for the entire offense. Basically,
Speaker 1: Eli Apple is playing a lot for this Bengals team
Speaker 1: and he has not really been picked on. So I
Speaker 1: think the Ravens now have the dimensions in this passing game.
Speaker 1: It's like, go go pick on Eli Apple for four quarters,
Speaker 1: Go go do it, Go pick on Eli All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to it. Who that Remember when Eli got
Speaker 1: then he get when he was a giant rookie, Get
Speaker 1: thrown app dunc take dunk Tanklili Apple. I don't know.
Speaker 1: His mom was always you know, doing stuff, tweeting. Somebody
Speaker 1: threw him in like a cold tank or something in
Speaker 1: the locker room and it was a story. Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: there was. There was a lot of can you look
Speaker 1: that up for me? The Eli apple Um hazing incident?
Speaker 1: All right, let's um okay, Yeah, that's a great game. Alright, Greg,
Speaker 1: you're up. Okay. So this my number one pick was
Speaker 1: going to be and now and still will be Bears
Speaker 1: at Bucks. And here's why. In the four pm slot
Speaker 1: there's two dog games. Don't want one of those dog games.
Speaker 1: Number two. You've got Trent Green on your call. I've
Speaker 1: got Jim Dance and Tony Romo. I care and I'm
Speaker 1: interested in this game because this was the game last
Speaker 1: year where you started to wonder, are the Bucks really
Speaker 1: got to get it together? And they've mentioned it a
Speaker 1: lot this week. They scored only nineteen points against Chicago
Speaker 1: a year ago. It was the game where Tom Brady
Speaker 1: held up the four number because he got confused at
Speaker 1: the game. Not that they're not motivated every week, but
Speaker 1: I think they want to show how much they've changed.
Speaker 1: And I want to see how much Justin Fields has changed,
Speaker 1: because to me, this is been This is gonna be
Speaker 1: his toughest matchup since he played Cleveland. You can't run
Speaker 1: it on Tampa. But there's such a good running team
Speaker 1: Chicago over the last couple of weeks, You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to rely on Justin Fields and them to handle all
Speaker 1: the blitz. Is Todd Bowles has sends at him. I've
Speaker 1: liked what I've seen out of Fields and Naggy the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. It's like a slow build. This
Speaker 1: is a big time test and I've had fun watching him,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna have fun watching him whether he gets
Speaker 1: blown out or not. I'm with you on Fields. I mean,
Speaker 1: they had fifty five passing yards against the Packers in
Speaker 1: the first half, but if you go look at the
Speaker 1: drive where the Bears made it seventeen to fourteen. I
Speaker 1: thought Fields made some good throws a first drive of
Speaker 1: the game. He had some dimes. Then they went to
Speaker 1: sleep though for a while after that they are a
Speaker 1: little streaky. I think at this in this game, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna hold in the nineteen points
Speaker 1: like you did a year ago. You might have to
Speaker 1: ask Fields to do a little bit more in this
Speaker 1: and just open it up. I mean, there is a
Speaker 1: bit these Bucks secondary is banged up. It sounds like
Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield, who had a concussion scenario but practiced in full,
Speaker 1: will be back. But you know, Carlton Davis, Shaun Murphy, Bunting,
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman. I mean, there is an opportunity for them
Speaker 1: to do more than just be this sort of run, big, pretty,
Speaker 1: run heavy offense. It's been They've been so good running
Speaker 1: that they kind of haven't had to pass that much.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you need a little more. I was thinking
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn, who it was put on the COVID list.
Speaker 1: It sounds like he's been vaccinated though, because he's done
Speaker 1: his interviews without a mask. But he has got to
Speaker 1: get a couple of positive tests. He has been a
Speaker 1: huge difference maker for that defense. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: love well, I don't love anything about this game for
Speaker 1: the Bears. Um, I don't know if it would be
Speaker 1: there at six overall in our draft. Greg, So if
Speaker 1: you really wanted it that bad, it's kind of about
Speaker 1: the time of day. I also watched the Ravens live
Speaker 1: last week and that hurt me, and so I I
Speaker 1: don't like to do it twice in all right, you
Speaker 1: have interesting you have a different way of drafting. I've
Speaker 1: noticed that the last couple of weeks. But you know
Speaker 1: the fact that the Bucks on top of it, have
Speaker 1: had a you know, half of bye week, so they
Speaker 1: haven't played in ten days because they played t N
Speaker 1: f UM on October fourteenth. So that that, I think
Speaker 1: is only going to help a team, a veteran team
Speaker 1: like the Bucks in terms of health and preparation. Um,
Speaker 1: so I fully expect Tom Brady to do what he
Speaker 1: does now, which is, um, I know you have, by
Speaker 1: the way, Doc by the way as your number one
Speaker 1: quarterback in the QB rankings now, Greg, but just Brady's
Speaker 1: mastery of the position is like, Okay, it's like it's
Speaker 1: the Peyton Manning thing where he's just smarter than everyone
Speaker 1: now and just has figured every He's figured it all out,
Speaker 1: and they all it's that old sports thing. It's like, Um,
Speaker 1: when you're an athlete, the more you learn about the
Speaker 1: sport as you get older, Um, you know, your physical
Speaker 1: abilities sometimes go down as your knowledge goes up. So
Speaker 1: but Brady's somehow got into situation where he mastered the
Speaker 1: sport from an intellectual standpoint, but he's still at a
Speaker 1: high level. Uh, Physically, it's not supposed to work that way.
Speaker 1: So that I just think he's gonna pick a part
Speaker 1: of good Chicago defense because he does it to everybody.
Speaker 1: And the other guy I wanted to bring up was
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette, who's uh a really good player for these Bucks.
Speaker 1: And I know we brought him up a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and maybe it's just the Brady effect, but
Speaker 1: he's been a really big addition to that offense in
Speaker 1: terms of a week to week ad that keeps them
Speaker 1: from getting too predictable. I'd have to make a list,
Speaker 1: but I feel like he's a top ten to fifteen
Speaker 1: running back right now. He's playing great and they're gonna
Speaker 1: need him. They might not have Antonio Brown, they might
Speaker 1: not have Rob Gronkowski. He was a big part of
Speaker 1: this book I got sent in the mail. It's good.
Speaker 1: It's called The Season in the Sun. It's by Lars Anderson,
Speaker 1: and it's about the Bucks and this Bears game figured
Speaker 1: big in it and it really kind of goes through
Speaker 1: how much Brady struggled mentally to make this offense his own,
Speaker 1: and they they he needed the bye week to basically
Speaker 1: here from arians that like, make it, do whatever you
Speaker 1: want with it, make it the Brady offense. If you want,
Speaker 1: and Brady sort of took charge after that, but it
Speaker 1: was pretty fascinating, like how much he was struggling mentally
Speaker 1: early in that season, ripping through the entire book during
Speaker 1: a busy pretty good. Nice job. He's a reader. He's
Speaker 1: a reader. Tom Brady through six games, two thousands. Want
Speaker 1: to be two thousand, sixty four passing yards, seventeen touchdowns,
Speaker 1: three picks. He's got eleven touch on, zero picks on
Speaker 1: the red zone. It's stupid that I should be number
Speaker 1: one by It's a little early to talk m v P.
Speaker 1: I think it's too early because there's so many great
Speaker 1: quarterbacks right now. But I've noticed Brady has never mentioned
Speaker 1: because the narrative isn't great, and it's like Brady is
Speaker 1: playing as well or better than By the way, what's
Speaker 1: wrong with the Brady narrative? The forty four year old
Speaker 1: that's a fine narrative. But people are just more excited
Speaker 1: about Kyler. Just as same thing. Why Belichick when they
Speaker 1: won four hundred titles in four d twelve years, um
Speaker 1: wasn't when the coach of the year of the year.
Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, I'm bored of that guy. Giving
Speaker 1: somebody else. All right, stay right there, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Mark, you're up your first pick. I
Speaker 1: feel like you got a good spot here because Greg
Speaker 1: a little bit of a reach there, even though he
Speaker 1: gave you his reason. Isn't much of a week you
Speaker 1: took the Oh I love, I love, I love what
Speaker 1: what's happened to me? Because you're going to take the
Speaker 1: other good four pm game at some point here, at
Speaker 1: some point I may, but not right here at this spot.
Speaker 1: I'm going Kansas City at Tennessee in the early window.
Speaker 1: And I looked at the spread on this game, and
Speaker 1: I think the Titans have a reason to feel a
Speaker 1: little a little disrespected at home after wiping up the Bills.
Speaker 1: Is the rainmaker? Is he gonna do it? I'm not
Speaker 1: going to do it. I just think that if you're them,
Speaker 1: you'd have to be a little flummixed by how people
Speaker 1: view them after what we just saw against Buffalo. But
Speaker 1: they're a little bank since that game. In fact, in fact,
Speaker 1: the spread became more um. I thought appalling. Didn't shrink
Speaker 1: the way that you didn't. There wasn't a huge um
Speaker 1: pro Titans a footage on five or something. It's well,
Speaker 1: I mean, the last time I checked, it was like
Speaker 1: five five, five point five or something like that set
Speaker 1: the line in Las Vegas. You're a little banged up
Speaker 1: too if you're Tennessee coming off that game. Obviously Tarrill
Speaker 1: of the wand but Caleb Farley, torn a c L.
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton is on I R. So there's a chance
Speaker 1: here for the Chiefs to do what they do, which
Speaker 1: is roll up points. But there's still a team that
Speaker 1: I mean, they're rushing defense. Was talking to the Grave
Speaker 1: Digger before this uh podcast, and it's like, there's hope
Speaker 1: for the Titans because you can go do what you
Speaker 1: do well, and I thought that's exactly what they did
Speaker 1: against Buffalo. Just lean on Derrick Henry and the rest
Speaker 1: of the crowd and if you get a kind of
Speaker 1: game from a J. Brown that you did. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs to me feel like they started the season
Speaker 1: as remember when Cleveland played them. Cleveland has to be
Speaker 1: perfect to keep up with the Chiefs. Now it's almost
Speaker 1: like Kansas City's offense outside of Washington can't make the
Speaker 1: mistakes it's making and it leads to league in giveaways.
Speaker 1: With the defense as poorous as it's been and I
Speaker 1: think the Washington game is a bit of an admiration.
Speaker 1: Doesn't solve all their issues on defense. They made some
Speaker 1: changes though. You know, first of all, Chris Jones hasn't
Speaker 1: been playing. Sounds like he might be back for this game.
Speaker 1: He he's gonna maybe move back to his natural position
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. The experiment of him and wasn't working. You
Speaker 1: get Sorenson out of them, what do you mean the
Speaker 1: offseason storyline with all the leads about it, it's amazing
Speaker 1: what he's able to do on the outside. Yeah, hasn't
Speaker 1: totally worked. He hasn't been as impactful. They got Sorenson
Speaker 1: out of the starting lineup. That's seemed to help. Last
Speaker 1: week they made a couple of plays. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: with you that it sets up well for the Titans
Speaker 1: to just steamroll them when they have the ball. But
Speaker 1: I will always take a great passing team over a
Speaker 1: great running team, and the Chiefs are a great passing team.
Speaker 1: They still lead the NFL and yards per drive, points
Speaker 1: per drive. Like I know, I feel like the turnovers
Speaker 1: are flukey. You mentioned Fulton, who had been playing really
Speaker 1: well for Tennessee is out and so they're short at cornerback,
Speaker 1: and I know the line maybe shouldn't be that big,
Speaker 1: but when it comes to the locks, you don't need
Speaker 1: to worry about the line. You just gotta get the
Speaker 1: w And that's why I'm locking up the chiefs road.
Speaker 1: Oh I like that one. That's good. And you are
Speaker 1: on the little streak after the miserable start, you've now
Speaker 1: won three in a row. Great. Well, you know what
Speaker 1: philosophy worked the last couple of years. Nothing's working this year.
Speaker 1: Was always take the chiefs when they're available, So we'll
Speaker 1: see if that's continued. Well, I'm doing the same thing,
Speaker 1: and that may sound un original, but it's you just
Speaker 1: talked about. You didn't like the spread I said the Titans,
Speaker 1: don't I do. I'm perfectly fine with it, and I'm
Speaker 1: locking the Chiefs up as well. That wasn't fun. I
Speaker 1: could care less if anyone in this room um approves
Speaker 1: of it that the Chief's offensive line has come in,
Speaker 1: I could care less. I'm serious about that. I don't
Speaker 1: need to do this to get the two of you
Speaker 1: to say, what a nice job. I'm just excited. I
Speaker 1: don't care about of course, I don't care. I picked
Speaker 1: them too. I'm saying you spent this whole preamble and
Speaker 1: you sent an Instagram video about how disrespected the Titans
Speaker 1: should feel, and then you just you just locked up
Speaker 1: against I didn't know. I didn't spend I didn't go
Speaker 1: on the whole thing about how Mark feels this. I've
Speaker 1: now feel disrespected slightly by the two of them for
Speaker 1: you know your response. I've been doing some behind the
Speaker 1: scenes host stuff for the past two minutes, and I
Speaker 1: know I feel like Mars mad at me. I don't
Speaker 1: think I even said anything last minute. No, no, because
Speaker 1: you haven't one of your like after I announced the
Speaker 1: lock a Erica, who's annoyed at me for various reasons,
Speaker 1: doesn't use the lock sounds, and then Dan's like, it's like,
Speaker 1: what is that? I mean, It's like, I think it
Speaker 1: was a totally hey, boys talked, Let's just take a
Speaker 1: break where take a breath. We're all together, everything is okay.
Speaker 1: And also, did you know that there was questions about
Speaker 1: the physical treatment of second year cornerback Prince A Mukamara,
Speaker 1: a relatively small player who did not appear pleased to
Speaker 1: have been carried and deposited into the tub by hulking
Speaker 1: star defensive end Jason Pierre Paul did it. That's right.
Speaker 1: It wasn't Eli Apple Prince, but there was he there
Speaker 1: was some Eli Apple controversy where he called someone a cancer,
Speaker 1: and there was there was there. He didn't go well,
Speaker 1: he had a confrontation with his teammate and I think
Speaker 1: he got suspended for being just a pain okay point
Speaker 1: and yeah, the mother was in the mix. Um mark,
Speaker 1: I apologize and the ESPN gig for because it certainly
Speaker 1: does sound like you. It does matter to you what
Speaker 1: we think about the locks based on your Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're clown bro stupid asked why is why is your
Speaker 1: mic still on? How here's a question for you? Why? Like,
Speaker 1: by the way, I only do I care when I'm
Speaker 1: when the showing by the two of you, you know,
Speaker 1: three of you, for Heaven's sake, and who knows what
Speaker 1: else has happened in the back room over there was
Speaker 1: what it was. Otherwise it would have been fine. How
Speaker 1: about just a normal point? Was you you disrespected the
Speaker 1: Titans after saying how they've been disrespected? Well, I've only
Speaker 1: added to their motivation then, Uh yeah, so Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: is gonna run for a bunch of yards. But It's
Speaker 1: probably not gonna matter because the Chiefs are gonna score
Speaker 1: like seven out of nine times. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Are they their offensive line is coming together. They were
Speaker 1: able to run in short yardage, Like I think they're
Speaker 1: going to be able to run the ball a little
Speaker 1: bit too, Like they're like the belt. Like the whole
Speaker 1: thing with the Chiefs is like I'm in the same campus, Greg,
Speaker 1: But like I refuse to panic because it's the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: But if they filled to three and four, is that
Speaker 1: a mini crisis that I think that would be the
Speaker 1: last I mean the fact that in that game the
Speaker 1: three first half toneovers last week, it was like, is
Speaker 1: this the same thing again? And then they turned it on.
Speaker 1: Let's see if they get it's a big game, all right,
Speaker 1: and then they get the Giants next week, so the
Speaker 1: Chiefs have a chance to build some momentument they could win.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on, Marks, it is snaking and
Speaker 1: you know you've got you fiery mother. Yes, you've got
Speaker 1: to organize your Sunday's um in the role that we
Speaker 1: play diligently ahead of time. And this has been on
Speaker 1: my radar because it includes one of the most um
Speaker 1: intriguing teams I've watched in years, and it is Houston
Speaker 1: that Arizona. I just want to see the Cardinals go
Speaker 1: in there and flex their muscles. And if you watch,
Speaker 1: if you've watched Thursday Night Football, UM Erica, you know
Speaker 1: about this. There is an ad uh that they played
Speaker 1: throughout the game on national television that somehow features uh
Speaker 1: yours truly popping up in the middle saying something totally
Speaker 1: innocuous like they are the most interesting team in the
Speaker 1: a f C. So I'm just gonna say this about
Speaker 1: the Cardinals Erica. They are the most interesting team in
Speaker 1: the NFC. Now, if you can put that up to
Speaker 1: get that into the next look at the camera and
Speaker 1: then Greg and Dan. Greg and Dan be super and
Speaker 1: like look at Mark like very invested, and then Mark
Speaker 1: throw your pen down and really sell it. They are
Speaker 1: the most interesting team in the NFC. Money in the bank,
Speaker 1: now you can. Dan could squeeze it on the same
Speaker 1: I'm not letting him that in this cut me in
Speaker 1: that promo. Al right, you are that promo by the way,
Speaker 1: you got upset about some other promo. You're the only
Speaker 1: a t M face in that big time that makes
Speaker 1: it so much more delicious to me. And it's you know,
Speaker 1: my kids saw it last week. They didn't know what's
Speaker 1: going on. So and on the flip side, you've got
Speaker 1: maybe I need to make another secret phone call to
Speaker 1: get rid of that commercial. No no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: absolutely not anyway, where where are we? I would just
Speaker 1: say this. On the flip side, for the floor is
Speaker 1: beginning to fall out, you've got Brandon Cooks, so I
Speaker 1: think has been their most valuable player this season on offense,
Speaker 1: no question about it. It doesn't matter calling them totally
Speaker 1: undisciplined against the Colts last week. It's starting to get
Speaker 1: ugly because someone who comes in and just drops a
Speaker 1: big a bomb. So the story, I guess the story
Speaker 1: for me one of the Texans is this the Shaun
Speaker 1: Watson situation. So, um, John McClain, who is as plugged
Speaker 1: in as anyone or you know, he's been there forever
Speaker 1: and he's with the Houston Chronicle and he is pretty
Speaker 1: strong this week and says there is a trade that
Speaker 1: is coming down between the Dolphins and the Texans for
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and it's happening and it could happen this week.
Speaker 1: And then uh, there's been some pushback in various outlets,
Speaker 1: saying no, no, no, that's not the deal. But Greg,
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me that it's claim that it's coming
Speaker 1: from and uh, do you sense that something could happen
Speaker 1: even by the time someone listens to this podcast. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's interesting that he's putting it out there. Yes, but
Speaker 1: it's almost identical wording two similar reports in training camp
Speaker 1: before training camp, so that that yes, there was there
Speaker 1: was There was one before training camp that it that
Speaker 1: it could be imminent, and it also mentioned the Dolphins
Speaker 1: and it didn't happen. I understand that the Texans and
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson are aligned in wanting to get him out
Speaker 1: of there and get something for him now, and so
Speaker 1: you have to believe that that's where this information is
Speaker 1: coming from. I I kind of don't want to slam
Speaker 1: anyone for doing it until it happens, because I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily believe it yet. I just I guess I just
Speaker 1: don't believe that a team will trade for a guy
Speaker 1: who is you know, if you read all of the material,
Speaker 1: sure looks like a sexual predator and has twenty two
Speaker 1: counts that are up in the air. In terms of
Speaker 1: the civil case in ten counts in a criminal case
Speaker 1: that could go to jail. So I guess I don't
Speaker 1: believe it until I see it. Well, And to your point,
Speaker 1: you know Greg and a little Bertie to play him
Speaker 1: this year. By the way, I think that's super missy.
Speaker 1: But Greg and I a little Bertie told Greg and
Speaker 1: I that there, yeah, there are major issues in Miami
Speaker 1: sort of all over the place with various coaches by
Speaker 1: that ownership in Miami wants the Shawn Watson and that's
Speaker 1: what it's gonna take to make this happen. But I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily buy that it's going to happen in the
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. We'll see. I don't really know that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't want to like cast judgment
Speaker 1: on I want to see what happens. So like, if
Speaker 1: I were a team, say the Miami Dolphins, Um, why
Speaker 1: would I want to make this trade before I know
Speaker 1: about the criminal situation? Like? What is is there a
Speaker 1: rush here? I mean the Texans. I guess I could
Speaker 1: see from their perspective, like we don't know about this
Speaker 1: guy's future. Let's get him out of the building before
Speaker 1: he has no value to us. If things take a
Speaker 1: turn for Deshaun Watson, agent is as powerful as there
Speaker 1: is the league. So I think he's part of this too. Um,
Speaker 1: So you have that side of it. It makes sense
Speaker 1: the Texans, they've already, they've processed it, they understand the situation.
Speaker 1: He's never playing another down for them. Get him out
Speaker 1: of here while you can. But if you're the Dolphins
Speaker 1: or any other team, imagine, just imagine a scenario where
Speaker 1: you pull the trigger on this trade, You give up
Speaker 1: multiple first round picks, you get slaughtered from all corners rightfully. So,
Speaker 1: by the way, if you trade for a guy with
Speaker 1: the allegations he's facing right now, and then he don't
Speaker 1: play for you because he ends up his career goes
Speaker 1: up in flames because of his legal situation, why would
Speaker 1: anyone trade And maybe maybe even though I like John
Speaker 1: McClain and he's a friend of the show and he
Speaker 1: went to Baylor, and I like Baylor because I like
Speaker 1: my family, uh in Texas, maybe this is all this
Speaker 1: is all b s because the Texans are so desperate
Speaker 1: to get this thing done that they're just trying to
Speaker 1: scare somebody up and to do a deal you think
Speaker 1: doesn't get down because it comes from McClain. I think
Speaker 1: that there's something very different about it. Are you selling
Speaker 1: low at this point right now? With so much unknown
Speaker 1: about if are the Dolphins you're maybe thinking, can I
Speaker 1: get them lower now and not face any competition for him?
Speaker 1: Than it could still give out three round first round
Speaker 1: pictures is the most then then it would be absolutely
Speaker 1: Everything about it to me is ludicrous. It does make
Speaker 1: it puts a little extra I know we'll get to
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, but it puts a little extra on tour
Speaker 1: and Chris Greer their GM and Brian floores this week.
Speaker 1: I feel like it makes this week next week a
Speaker 1: little bigger in Miami's first round picks are looking good
Speaker 1: though right now, right and sorry Cardinals fans, but you're
Speaker 1: playing the Texans. Your defense will give them some love.
Speaker 1: They're winning games for the Cardinals. Their defense has really
Speaker 1: won them games, and so you would think they're gonna
Speaker 1: blitz Davis Mills into the ground and you guys will
Speaker 1: have fun. Why I kind of like the chances of
Speaker 1: the Cardinals winning at home again eighteen point favorites, I think,
Speaker 1: and I would take the Cardinals. They're not. It's not
Speaker 1: that there's some huge college like spreads. This week in
Speaker 1: our league, you have seventeen and a half. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the Caesar's book here, seventeen and a half for
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, twelve and a half bucks. Uh, let's see
Speaker 1: there's another huge fifteen over the Lions. Jared Goff has
Speaker 1: gotta be feeling good about the trajectory of his career.
Speaker 1: All right, let's push pause here from our sponsors. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back. Let's move on up next. The old
Speaker 1: Zeus are some interesting picks in the top four. So
Speaker 1: I am very happy to announce that I will be
Speaker 1: taking a late game and it will be the Eagles
Speaker 1: at the Raiders. Um Eagles. By the way, they continue
Speaker 1: to be connected to Shaun Watson as well, and they've
Speaker 1: got the picks too. I feel like Jalen Hurts. While
Speaker 1: he hasn't been bad this season, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's done enough to this point to make them be like, oh,
Speaker 1: we got our guys, so we're getting out of that messy,
Speaker 1: muddy business of Deshaun Watson. So keep an eye in
Speaker 1: that situation. But uh, in the here and now, I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm not feeling good about the Eagles. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a very good team. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, the injuries have hurt them and especially in
Speaker 1: their positions of strength, and it's it's showing week after week.
Speaker 1: And I think when they play good teams, they get exposed.
Speaker 1: And if you're going to go on the road and
Speaker 1: play the Raiders, who are have usually been very good
Speaker 1: in that building, I think this is going to set
Speaker 1: up well. Now there's the Bisaccia bump? Is that still
Speaker 1: a thing? That is the question around the Raiders. Rich
Speaker 1: Pisacci the interim coach. Where now uh clear of the
Speaker 1: John Gruden ness by nearly two weeks, so you would
Speaker 1: think there's some type of combat in that organization inside
Speaker 1: the building. Uh does the Bessaccia bump bump extend? Uh?
Speaker 1: We shall see. But I really like the Raiders. I
Speaker 1: don't don't you're about to lock it up, the whole
Speaker 1: bump thing. I mean, we're asking, like people's emotions on
Speaker 1: the Raiders players to still be bubbling because Rich Pisaccia
Speaker 1: is the coach or according to Greg's theory, John Gruden
Speaker 1: doesn't exist as a human being anymore. So they're very
Speaker 1: It's like a one week bump right the most part.
Speaker 1: But but the other bump. But we've never it's truly unique.
Speaker 1: No one's ever seen the Bassaccia bump. There's been other
Speaker 1: bumps since it's a different bump, but the Bassaccia bump
Speaker 1: could have more well, so mystery. We're in the middle
Speaker 1: of that mystery. We don't. I remember when Bobby Petrino quit,
Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh, now they're gonna really play great
Speaker 1: to stick it to him. I was like, Nope, that
Speaker 1: falcons tea. It's like a nine year old serious about this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were already working in football. That go ahead, Mark I.
Speaker 1: I would say that you also had a bit of
Speaker 1: a Greg Olsen bump, who you know is in the
Speaker 1: shadow of Gruden for so long. Like Evan Silva pointed
Speaker 1: out the cars yards per past attempt last week, we're
Speaker 1: twelve point six, the most of any game is a
Speaker 1: hundred and sixteen start career. They really leaned on play
Speaker 1: action a bunch more. They got a little bit better
Speaker 1: along the offensive line, I thought. In terms of the
Speaker 1: run game, Josh Jacob said that something changed last Sunny,
Speaker 1: that lanes were appearing. I'm not sure that happens against
Speaker 1: the Eagles. But one other thing I like. The Eagles
Speaker 1: offense annoys me. It's been so streaky and even you
Speaker 1: go to that Bucks game, they were completely you know,
Speaker 1: in a slumber for long stretch of time, and then
Speaker 1: you know, Jalen Hurts gets going fantasy wise towards the end.
Speaker 1: They do have Lane Johnson back, who has been out
Speaker 1: for a personal matter. That matters a lot. That's huge.
Speaker 1: That improves two tackles spots. Lane Johnson, who said he
Speaker 1: was dealing with mental health issues, released it really interesting
Speaker 1: statement on it uh and appreciated the support of the
Speaker 1: organization as he got himself right. Is one of the
Speaker 1: best right tackles in the league. And now you move
Speaker 1: Jordan Mylata back to left tackle replacing Dillard, so suddenly
Speaker 1: you just you improve both tackle spots. So I think
Speaker 1: you match up pretty well to slow down the Great
Speaker 1: Raiders pass rush. And the one thing that kills the
Speaker 1: Raiders is their offensive line, and I think the Eagles
Speaker 1: could take advantage of that. So I think this is
Speaker 1: a coin ful, But I picked the Eagles. I've been
Speaker 1: wrong about the Eagles so many times. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: keep being the wrong picking them and the Raiders. This
Speaker 1: is really a tough spot for me. I just never
Speaker 1: and and now I'm in. I never thought Derek Carr
Speaker 1: could be this good. I think he's so much better
Speaker 1: than he's ever been. I have like I have him
Speaker 1: as a top five. I have him ahead of Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes right now, like Chiefs fans worried about that he
Speaker 1: is playing out of his mind because I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gotten a ton of help either. And you just
Speaker 1: got to look at how he's playing in four or
Speaker 1: five of these games. It's been awesome there. Their quarterback
Speaker 1: is so much better that it makes me a little
Speaker 1: worried about picking the Eagles. I believe in the Bisacci bump.
Speaker 1: I believe in the You talk about Greg Olson, the Olsen.
Speaker 1: Oh wait a second, Olson, you come up with another one. Well,
Speaker 1: but when you say that's like a negative thing, the
Speaker 1: bull then hits, it's just frisky. That's like a bad
Speaker 1: offensive lineman yanking that thing back. What is it the
Speaker 1: it's also like a woman. The sash basics the ol
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm locking up the silver and wow, okay,
Speaker 1: I like that pretty good. That it's fine, that's good,
Speaker 1: doesn't anger me. I know, I know in my heart
Speaker 1: that's a nice lock in a big spot. I think
Speaker 1: it's a nice lot because I think the Raiders are
Speaker 1: gonna lose. I know, but you know there's some pixie
Speaker 1: dusk on these Zeuster locks lately. I mean, you and
Speaker 1: Mark at the same ones, and everyone like included like
Speaker 1: a missed field goal or a going at least something
Speaker 1: interrupt together. I had the Cowboys locked up last week,
Speaker 1: and legitimately I was watching the game as it was
Speaker 1: unfolding against the Patriots, being like, I locked up the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: so something weird is going to happen in their favor
Speaker 1: because I got sub juiced right now, I think that
Speaker 1: the sprinkle you got that sprinkle a little hands is
Speaker 1: hop we had the same record, but you have all
Speaker 1: this juice, and does what am I? You've got the
Speaker 1: Jeremy sprinkle. I'll lock up Patrick Mahomes. This whole ra
Speaker 1: is absurd. All right, here we go. That's a good job,
Speaker 1: by mean, a nice four o'clock game, Greg, What is
Speaker 1: this show about? It's about me? Go ahead, Greg, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna have to pick two games here
Speaker 1: so that that's how it works. Something to keep in mind,
Speaker 1: I jump you again. Panthers Giants. Panthers Giants. The rest
Speaker 1: of the early games have problems. Panthers Giants interests me
Speaker 1: if only because this Anther's team. He's going to be
Speaker 1: part of this season, or at least we thought so,
Speaker 1: and that this Sam Donald thing is sinking a little
Speaker 1: bit more each week. The first play last week to
Speaker 1: me was Sam Donald in a nutshell. There was no
Speaker 1: pass rush pressure. He he looks to his left, his
Speaker 1: first read is taken. When the first read is taken
Speaker 1: away and teams are sitting on these short routes with Carolina,
Speaker 1: they're daring him to go deep. He panics sometimes and
Speaker 1: he just starts running around. There was no pressure on
Speaker 1: that play. He starts running around, he runs left, he
Speaker 1: throws right, it gets picked off, and he seemed to
Speaker 1: be in a terrible headspace the rest of the game.
Speaker 1: Then again, he threw some dimes in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: It was kind of outrageous. The seam ball he threw
Speaker 1: on fourth down was one of the best throws of
Speaker 1: the year by anyone. He made another great throw on
Speaker 1: fourth down to d J Moore on the sideline to
Speaker 1: keep the game going. So he he has his moment,
Speaker 1: he has his throws where you really are impressed. I
Speaker 1: think this Giant's defense has been getting a little better
Speaker 1: by I don't know what happened to them this year.
Speaker 1: They gotta win this game. Carolina New York is all
Speaker 1: banged up, and I guess I just I want to
Speaker 1: see if Carolina is gonna be in the mix. I
Speaker 1: was really tempted to take the Giants because I feel
Speaker 1: like they're due, but I just can't buy them right now.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be missing Andrew Thomas, who's played well for
Speaker 1: them at left tackle. They're gonna be missing Darius Tony,
Speaker 1: who to me was their best player along with Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones this year. And without those two guys, I think
Speaker 1: Carolina does get it. And without them after a hot
Speaker 1: start by Tony like in the first quarter before he
Speaker 1: went out with that ankle, and he's to me one
Speaker 1: of the biggest stories. To me, that hasn't been a
Speaker 1: big story. I think he could have been like offensive
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year type stuff if he had been helped. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a big loss, and I mean they were a
Speaker 1: disaster after he left the lineup, and Daniel Jones, who
Speaker 1: had only, you know, two turnovers in the month previous.
Speaker 1: Totally imploded last week against the Rams. I get it,
Speaker 1: it's the Rams, but it was just it was an
Speaker 1: eyesore and and they're just missing too many people. And
Speaker 1: I think Carolina basically is just sort of a nine
Speaker 1: win team that has to try to struggle to get
Speaker 1: through the Sam Donald experience. I mean, Matt Rule came
Speaker 1: out after you gotta make me get him better though, right, No,
Speaker 1: he's throwing. He's completed under fifty of his throws over
Speaker 1: the three game losing streak, which you know that's fine.
Speaker 1: In nine seven one completing of your throws is unheard.
Speaker 1: I remember in London, Dan was happy to see Donald
Speaker 1: struggling ultimately, like it was a tough day. I'm on
Speaker 1: record on this. I don't hide from it. I don't
Speaker 1: want Sam Donald to become an elite quarterback. I don't
Speaker 1: need him to be embarrassed and play the way he
Speaker 1: played for most of that game last week either, because
Speaker 1: I know he's a good guy. Um, but yeah, this
Speaker 1: sign then you're I think, is they made a massive mistake.
Speaker 1: What was that? Yeah? These guys are awesome, all right, Sam,
Speaker 1: I got you. You should know that at one point, Donald,
Speaker 1: if you didn't watch this game, was five for eighteen
Speaker 1: for ninety nine yards with six and a half minutes
Speaker 1: to play in the fourth quarter. Well like that ending
Speaker 1: wiped out everything else. We would be saying kind of
Speaker 1: build off it. But and after that, I think Rule
Speaker 1: was steaming over the first three and a half quarters
Speaker 1: because the quote he had after the game was we
Speaker 1: need to become a or it was Monday, I think
Speaker 1: he even had time to think it over, and he's like,
Speaker 1: we need to get back to being a running team, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, Christian McCaffrey another Carolina failures he's on
Speaker 1: I R right now, is uh not playing And yet
Speaker 1: he's saying we need to be a run team. And
Speaker 1: here's his quote. We're going to read Readefine, who we are.
Speaker 1: That's the only way we can win. That sounds like
Speaker 1: a guy who for the second straight year is having
Speaker 1: second thoughts about who he got behind is the starting quarter.
Speaker 1: I mean, not for nothing, their offense never struggled this
Speaker 1: much last year in d v O Weight. They kind
Speaker 1: of did right at the end and that was that
Speaker 1: was where Teddy got Yeah, but this wasn't a plan.
Speaker 1: By the way, what's that if it's struggled at the
Speaker 1: end of the now, I get it, but at no
Speaker 1: point where they best offense. And I actually want to
Speaker 1: give him a little darn old anim rule, a little
Speaker 1: more leeway here and evaluated after seventeen weeks, there is
Speaker 1: a chance that's fair. He could respond, uh positively, you
Speaker 1: know the rest It's almost like he was Donald was
Speaker 1: got a ton of praise in the first three weeks,
Speaker 1: and upon a closer look at the games is like,
Speaker 1: maybe he shouldn't be getting this much love. Now he's
Speaker 1: getting destroyed as being like the worst version of himself
Speaker 1: the last three weeks. And maybe that's not quite accurate either.
Speaker 1: He's just one of those guys. He's a little bit
Speaker 1: of both. Like he's just think Giants fans want Gettleman
Speaker 1: out like now, so they could really use a win
Speaker 1: just this right, And and Joe Judge is looking at
Speaker 1: it like, how do I separate myself from the bath water?
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on Greg's snakes to you. You
Speaker 1: know my drafting tendency as well. You knew I didn't
Speaker 1: want to take Jets Patriots or watch it, and I don't.
Speaker 1: It's just like only thank you for that public service announcing.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take the Packers uh and the football
Speaker 1: team as my second game there. I think the Packers
Speaker 1: are due for a blowout win. My strategy, like you
Speaker 1: know I said, my strategy was take the Chiefs as
Speaker 1: much as he can. My strategy the last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks is pick against the football team as much as
Speaker 1: you can. Uh. They're out of the bounds for locking
Speaker 1: them up this week, but it's a defense that's now
Speaker 1: moved landon Collins Tow. Linebacker Ron Rivera had to have
Speaker 1: that conversation with him. I think if he wasn't guaranteed
Speaker 1: money wouldn't be on the team anymore. Chase Young has
Speaker 1: been good this year, but they play him so much.
Speaker 1: He's played like fifty more snaps than any other pass
Speaker 1: rusher and so he's first in snaps twentye and pressures.
Speaker 1: And the Packers might get back try back soon, probably
Speaker 1: not this week, but they got Jenkins back. I think
Speaker 1: they're often showed a few more dimensions getting Lazard into
Speaker 1: the mix last week. I think the defense, even though
Speaker 1: they're short four or five starters right now, has gotten
Speaker 1: incrementally better. They haven't had that week where you're just like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the Packers. I think they get that sort
Speaker 1: of week against the football team and it heads into
Speaker 1: a really fun Thursday Night or which should feature two
Speaker 1: six and one team's Packers Cardinals next week. And they
Speaker 1: have the Chiefs after that too, So you you have
Speaker 1: to handle your business here against Washington. Uh. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: have been hard on the Aaron Rodgers like experience for years,
Speaker 1: just because I don't know, I can't explain. There's some
Speaker 1: teams that just don't do it for you the way
Speaker 1: that they might for someone else. But I love watching
Speaker 1: this offense because of its balance and it's Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: and a J. Dillon. They they beat up on Chicago
Speaker 1: last week a hundred and fifty four yards on the ground,
Speaker 1: and that team, the Bears are good. Defense were able
Speaker 1: to get to Aaron Rodger. I think they sacked him
Speaker 1: three times twice in the first quarter, so they were
Speaker 1: able to create chaos. But then the ground game comes
Speaker 1: in and totally solves it. So I I don't think
Speaker 1: there's any real road map for Washington to keep up
Speaker 1: with Green Bay because their offense. I like Taylor Heineke
Speaker 1: in theory, but that thing has fallen off a clip
Speaker 1: to some degree. They need a second receiver. They really
Speaker 1: miss Curtis Samuel. That's been a rough free agent signing
Speaker 1: that Logan Thomas they resigned to a massive contract. I
Speaker 1: think he's got about a hundred yards this year. He's
Speaker 1: not even the leading tight end on the team. He's
Speaker 1: been hurt. He's been hurt um, but even when he's
Speaker 1: been in the lineup, they haven't been able to get
Speaker 1: him the ball. Uh. I also like that Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: kind of take a step back this year. Reminds me
Speaker 1: a little bit of Brady and may Ending and Breeze
Speaker 1: when their offensive line isn't playing as well and they
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're not quite as healthy on offense.
Speaker 1: He's kind of game managing and just trying to like
Speaker 1: get better as the season goes along, laying back, not
Speaker 1: doing anything. You could read that that he's totally disengaged,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't think that's what's happened. Doesn't
Speaker 1: seem too distinct, doesn't. I mean he's he's still if
Speaker 1: you get rid of the Week one, which is a disaster,
Speaker 1: he's top ten or top three and major categories across
Speaker 1: the board past yards pert tempt twelve picks, one twelve touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one pick since week one, one seventeen passer rating so
Speaker 1: very efficient, like not throwing like they signed Whitney Merciless.
Speaker 1: We should mention the former Texan Uh, one of the
Speaker 1: all time great Texans. Whitney Merciless should also. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they need some help up front because they're gonna be
Speaker 1: without Preston Smith. They don't have Zadarius Smith. So they're
Speaker 1: gonna give Whitney Merciless a spin and just spending back
Speaker 1: real quick to Carolina. Stephon Gilmore, Uh could play week seven.
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't mention that we Um. You know, here's
Speaker 1: a guy like Stephan Gilmore, the New England Patriots that
Speaker 1: would get Um you didn't fit in with the culture
Speaker 1: anymore because he wanted, Well, we gotta bring Jamie Collins back,
Speaker 1: gotta free up that highly un Jamie Collins. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be grizzly blowout. We'll get to that. Greg Um
Speaker 1: Washington has been a big disappointment this year. Heineke has been, yeah,
Speaker 1: struggling a little bit lately. The defense, you know, you bothers,
Speaker 1: you Mark. You saw some people saying the Browns are
Speaker 1: one of the biggest disappoints in the league. The Washington
Speaker 1: football team, they are very lucky, very fortunate. They have
Speaker 1: been one of the worst teams in football. And uh,
Speaker 1: I'll show your boys scary Terry McClory. McLaurin is banged up,
Speaker 1: bad hammy. So that's another witches on his performance this year,
Speaker 1: he's been okay, it's been his team that Um, you're
Speaker 1: in You're in trouble there. I'm in big trouble alright
Speaker 1: up next the old do Sir, didn't count on Heineke
Speaker 1: for seventeen. No, you know Greg's draft is complete. Chicago
Speaker 1: at Tampa, a line of giants, Washington and Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Is there a good game here? Is there a competitive
Speaker 1: football game here? I don't know. I'd have to give
Speaker 1: him a seat. You give Greg a c on the draft.
Speaker 1: You know it's not a great week of games that
Speaker 1: he agrees. He all right, I'm gonna do Jets New England. Um,
Speaker 1: we'll see what you're saying. When when Trent Green is like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what you gotta do on third down? You
Speaker 1: gotta pick up that that that first down and I've
Speaker 1: got Tony Romo just like educated, he's not wrong. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's accurate. Do you need that first down on third down? Uh?
Speaker 1: Jets at New England don't like anything about this game
Speaker 1: for the Jets. I think it's a great spot for
Speaker 1: the Patriots, but the Patriots also kind of hard to
Speaker 1: figure out, Like who are the Patriots at this stage?
Speaker 1: We know they're not a great team anymore. Uh, but
Speaker 1: I don't think they're a bad team either. Um, they
Speaker 1: could be potentially you have a chance to continue to progress.
Speaker 1: And I've been on the record with this, Greggy. I
Speaker 1: think that mac Jones has been pretty good all season,
Speaker 1: and I like what I'm seeing from and I love
Speaker 1: that even in you know, after the pick six, Um,
Speaker 1: you know that he goes right back on the field
Speaker 1: and he connects with Born on the seventy five yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: And and I believe I believe it was Robert sal
Speaker 1: that said this week, a study of the Patriots game
Speaker 1: plan shows that they're opening up the playbook little by
Speaker 1: little for mac Jones and that that is encouraging. He's
Speaker 1: gaining the trust of Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels, and
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have his way with the Jets defense. Now,
Speaker 1: the Jets the first time these two teams played there,
Speaker 1: playing twice here in about six weeks. Uh, the Jets
Speaker 1: pass rush got home, so that that could change things potentially.
Speaker 1: But I just think that Mac Jones will make plays.
Speaker 1: They're gonna score some points, and there's no reason to
Speaker 1: trust the Jets on offense. Well, and the last time
Speaker 1: they played, they picked off Zach Wilson four times. Who
Speaker 1: I look at this offense and it's like I would
Speaker 1: just say, at this point, can we just see more
Speaker 1: Elijah more? Can we just start to see any remnants
Speaker 1: of the Shanahan attack that we talked about. I don't
Speaker 1: think Robert sal has the pieces obviously to win it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of grade you give this
Speaker 1: entire coaching staff after this stretch of play. It's not
Speaker 1: a good one. Offensively, it's it's rough. I've I'm not
Speaker 1: that confident as a Patriots fan going into this game.
Speaker 1: They haven't shown like that they can dominate. Even that
Speaker 1: Jets game was all about Zack Wilson imploding. Now maybe
Speaker 1: maybe that happens again. I think this is an important
Speaker 1: game for Sale and Wilson. They're coming off of a bide.
Speaker 1: They've gotten two weeks to prepare for it. Show some progress.
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson, I in three games out of what is it,
Speaker 1: five has been the reason they lost, Like he has
Speaker 1: not given them a chance to to win. I think
Speaker 1: for the next what twelve games, don't be the reason
Speaker 1: that they lost, because maybe one but not more not
Speaker 1: be the reason. And and I want to see Sala,
Speaker 1: you know, come up with a game plan, like I
Speaker 1: think this is a chance for the Jets to show
Speaker 1: some progects. It is for for Mac Jones and the
Speaker 1: Patriots too. They gotta let Mac cook a little bit more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go on aggressive. This unaggressive play calling by Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: is driving me absolutely insane to be fourth and three
Speaker 1: and not go for it and overtime to give the
Speaker 1: ball back to Dall It Like, what is happening here?
Speaker 1: You need to let them go. But I totally I'm like,
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Greg. I'm really nervous about this
Speaker 1: game because it's so like these Patriots to not necessarily,
Speaker 1: you know, hammer home a win like they need against
Speaker 1: the Jets. But I'm still going to lock them up
Speaker 1: past it is a little over, No, it's seven, it's
Speaker 1: right at seven. Oh damn, I think at this. I mean,
Speaker 1: you play by your own set of rules though, So
Speaker 1: that's yeah, So Zach Wilson, I was. It happens sometimes
Speaker 1: as a Jets fan, and I feel like it's happening
Speaker 1: more in recent years because I'm just so frustrated with
Speaker 1: the organization that no show in London just piss me off.
Speaker 1: It's like you you go in there and you totally
Speaker 1: no show on offense and you don't get a big
Speaker 1: stop on defense to try to save the day, and
Speaker 1: it's just too much of this disappointment. I need something
Speaker 1: to hold on too. I need something to build off.
Speaker 1: And me one win against the Titans. Uh, that's not
Speaker 1: gonna like make me feel good. Beat the Patriot They're
Speaker 1: they're eminently beat a ball. And wait, but you look
Speaker 1: at you look at Davis Mills. I know it was
Speaker 1: in Houston, but Davis Mills had his way with the
Speaker 1: Patriots defense. Just because he's a Jet quarterback doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that Zack Wilson should be dead in the water because
Speaker 1: he's going up to New England in two thousand twenty one.
Speaker 1: So go show me something, show me that in the
Speaker 1: bye week you got better as a team. You made adjustments. Yes,
Speaker 1: get Denzel Mims involved, get Elijah more involved, figure out
Speaker 1: ways to get this kid comfortable, because if he's as
Speaker 1: good as you think he is, he should be able
Speaker 1: to improve as the season goes along. The fact that
Speaker 1: he they took that win over the Titans and then
Speaker 1: completely no showed in London annoys me. Do something, Jets.
Speaker 1: You want to see them develop young players and grow
Speaker 1: with the team they have, and it's not happening. I
Speaker 1: am slightly stunned that we're acting like New England's just
Speaker 1: gonna roll over and die against the Jets. That would
Speaker 1: be an embarrassing loss. They went punched from all boys
Speaker 1: last week, right, but the last time basically they had
Speaker 1: their or leading the league in more of it. This
Speaker 1: would be a total embarrassment for Bill Belichick to lose
Speaker 1: to this Jets team, of course, but he's he's lost
Speaker 1: to the Jets before with much better team, like three times.
Speaker 1: My point is they played eighty nine snaps on defense
Speaker 1: last week. The last time everyone gave you know, every
Speaker 1: the Patriots their flowers for winning a moral victory in
Speaker 1: a big primetime game against a great team. They were
Speaker 1: down ten points against the Texans the next week. Like
Speaker 1: to Erica's point about being aggressive with Mac Jones that
Speaker 1: the end of the game not going for fourth and
Speaker 1: three didn't bother me as much as the fact that
Speaker 1: they kneeled on the ball in nineties seconds left in
Speaker 1: the first half. Davis Mills and the Texans were in
Speaker 1: the exact same situation last week, even worse. And they're
Speaker 1: going for points, so you gotta let Mac open it
Speaker 1: up a little bit. And uh, I just don't think
Speaker 1: a two and four Patriots team, which is below average,
Speaker 1: can be counted on to blow out anyone. You've prepared
Speaker 1: yourself for a potential stunner in Foxboro, and I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it. All right, We're gonna take a quick
Speaker 1: pause here. We'll be right back, all right. They'd be
Speaker 1: tied at two and five. How about marks number five?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we have multiple picks left, do
Speaker 1: we not? Oh, you're right. I will take at lant
Speaker 1: at Miami. It's my It's like, literally the only game
Speaker 1: available to me. I was eye in something else which
Speaker 1: is unavailable. So Atlanta at Miami. The one thing about
Speaker 1: the game, if you want it, I don't like you
Speaker 1: know that the other game is a late game. I
Speaker 1: like my day to become easier as it progresses, not
Speaker 1: more challenging. Suddenly double games at four o'clock like shoot
Speaker 1: me out of a window. Um. But Falcons at Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins in total disarray. The Falcons last two weeks. You
Speaker 1: start to see the Arthur Smith offense. I know that
Speaker 1: it came against you know, the Jets defense, but they're
Speaker 1: they're spicy. Matt Ryan's been playing really well. And for me,
Speaker 1: I think this is you know, I always was interested
Speaker 1: to see what Arthur Smith's imprint would be on the
Speaker 1: on the Falcons, and it's, uh, we're talking about a
Speaker 1: Jets team, for instance, it's not developing. You can see
Speaker 1: it with Atlanta's offense. I can't wait to see what
Speaker 1: they do with my With the Dolphins, I guess like
Speaker 1: last week it looked like it was a stepping stone
Speaker 1: for Tua. Earlier on in the game. Uh, they lost
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville. And this is that you talk about the
Speaker 1: most disappointing team in the NFC in Washington, Miami's the
Speaker 1: a f c's one. There's a lot of bad juju
Speaker 1: with this team. Whether Flores will be there, whether Chris
Speaker 1: career or will be there. With the Watson stuff swirling,
Speaker 1: it just feels like a big game in London. They
Speaker 1: did not have Xavian Howard and Byron Jones, who to
Speaker 1: me are kind of the identity of their team, certainly
Speaker 1: of their defense, and so they'll be back. Uh. They
Speaker 1: also get healthier on offense at receiver. They get Parker
Speaker 1: and Preston Williams back, So those are big guys returning.
Speaker 1: And yet I just I don't know if they can
Speaker 1: beat the Falcons. Like the Falcons are a little frisky
Speaker 1: and offense, they get Calvin Ridley back, They're kind of
Speaker 1: fun to watch. I I will think of Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: a little bit differently. I think, having seen them from
Speaker 1: that sideline view, it's just break The way that he
Speaker 1: moves at his size is just outrageous and strong he
Speaker 1: is at the catchpoint. Like combining those two traits on
Speaker 1: the same field as Patterson and Ridley, Like they're they're
Speaker 1: kind of fun to watch. I think they could be
Speaker 1: a sneaky fun team the rest of the year. Offensively,
Speaker 1: we'll see. I still think they could find it. I
Speaker 1: could think they could lose this game because I'm not
Speaker 1: buying their defense at all. And I think this game
Speaker 1: does a coin flip game. Just being totally on a
Speaker 1: scheme does nothing for me. The Falcons don't excite me.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins are depressing. Well, thankfully you don't. You don't
Speaker 1: remember that Cordurel Patterson U shove that he had inside.
Speaker 1: That was exciting, That was thrilling. I'll never forget it,
Speaker 1: but that was some veteran quarterbacking we saw live, like
Speaker 1: the way he moved in the pocket and was just
Speaker 1: like seeing it all. It was something like maybe he
Speaker 1: could do it again here, But I think that I
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like he gets exposed a little
Speaker 1: bit and in modern day Matt Ryan against good competition.
Speaker 1: But luckily for him, the competition comply stopped trusting like
Speaker 1: a Miami defense that a couple of weeks ago I
Speaker 1: thought might have a way to, you know, get in
Speaker 1: the grill of any quarterback and like they've been too
Speaker 1: has to be annoyed. Falling apart too has to be
Speaker 1: annoyed because it's like, you know, I'm still very young.
Speaker 1: I was injured, I came back, I played well, and
Speaker 1: then this entire week and this entire organization is all
Speaker 1: about bringing in the sky to trade for me, and
Speaker 1: the reports that the Texans have zero interest in me,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, this is hard. This NFL life
Speaker 1: has not been so enjoyable. This is not what I
Speaker 1: signed up for. But I guess he's paid. It's missing
Speaker 1: three wide outs a week ago. Their offensive line is
Speaker 1: uh D minus disaster. I mean, it's not an easy place.
Speaker 1: Maybe the one team though that you don't need much
Speaker 1: of an offensive line against UM. Finally, before we get
Speaker 1: to the primetime games, the Detroit Lions at l A
Speaker 1: Ram Slaughter uh L A well positioned for an easy
Speaker 1: win here, Detroit the last winless team in football. I
Speaker 1: know they've been competitive a couple of weeks, but this
Speaker 1: doesn't set up well for them. I thought, I want
Speaker 1: to give Sean McVeigh a little bit a credit for
Speaker 1: manning up and acknowledging that he did not treat Jard
Speaker 1: Goff well on the way out the door. That never
Speaker 1: sat well with me. The way they handled the end
Speaker 1: of that season, the press conferences there, there's a different
Speaker 1: way to go about it. When Goff was a former
Speaker 1: number one overall pick who thrived for you for a
Speaker 1: period of time, that helped take you to a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and then you were like all cute about it, and
Speaker 1: then you know, buddied up with Stafford and Cobo and
Speaker 1: then said that never happened, so he owned up. I
Speaker 1: could have been better. I could have been more communicative
Speaker 1: with Goff, who, by the way, never heard from Sean
Speaker 1: McVeigh between the end of the season and getting the
Speaker 1: phone call he was traded. It was just like, why
Speaker 1: ice the guy out. I don't know, maybe there's more
Speaker 1: to the relationship, but I'm glad he brought it up.
Speaker 1: I mean, and that said, if you're a Rams fan,
Speaker 1: I love what they did. I mean, yes, you could
Speaker 1: have handled that part. They benched them for John Walford.
Speaker 1: It should not be forgotten. You would not even they
Speaker 1: It was a brilliant, no doubt about it, move by
Speaker 1: the Rams. I'm just saying it could have been handled
Speaker 1: a little more class from the coach. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: within days of each other you have Stafford being talked
Speaker 1: about by McVeigh and McVeigh. You know, I asked on
Speaker 1: our TV show last week, what do we think McVeigh
Speaker 1: would say about stafford seasons so far? And he said
Speaker 1: he's been better than I thought, and I thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna be really good in Detroit. You've got Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell saying that Golf needs to step up more than
Speaker 1: he has. We're already at that point where it's like
Speaker 1: Golf could be benched at any moment. Here. I'm curious
Speaker 1: about this Rams defense, who really played well against the
Speaker 1: Giants and know as the Giants, but they just haven't
Speaker 1: had a dominant performance. It was really their defense that
Speaker 1: took control of that game. So many parts of the
Speaker 1: Rams are like surprisingly good other than Stafford. Darrell Henderson
Speaker 1: has now started sixteen games in his career. In those games,
Speaker 1: he's got eleven hundred and thirty nine yards and ten touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Good ball player, Darryl Henderson. The offensive line, which people
Speaker 1: really got on them. They didn't try to upgrade it
Speaker 1: at all this offseason, just kind of went with the
Speaker 1: same guys. Suddenly their offensive line looks great, like they
Speaker 1: test out as one of the best offensive line. And
Speaker 1: remember that hard knocks guy, Dante Dion like one of
Speaker 1: the only highlights of that season. Now he's starting. Oh
Speaker 1: he was like the fun I know, I'm the hard
Speaker 1: knocks guy. Is he the guy? The dinosaur guy? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: not that one. The one with the Chargers. He's starting now.
Speaker 1: He played well. Like they're getting contributions from a lot
Speaker 1: of people, not just like the big names. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Lions had sixty one yards in the first half
Speaker 1: last week. They didn't score until about, you know, fifty
Speaker 1: something minutes into the game against the Bengals. It's they
Speaker 1: were plucky. I found them interesting for the first couple
Speaker 1: of weeks because they were in garbage time showing up
Speaker 1: to some degree. But they to me, they are headed
Speaker 1: in the wrong direct. And I get and I like
Speaker 1: when coaches are honest to the media. Um, it makes
Speaker 1: our job better. But you know, Dan Campbell saying Jared
Speaker 1: Goff needs to step up and all that, It's like, dude,
Speaker 1: let's not forget what this has always been about. Jared
Speaker 1: gov has always been a patsy for this team, means
Speaker 1: to an end to get a better draft pick and
Speaker 1: better positioning next spring. He was always going to fail.
Speaker 1: You're surrounding him zero talent and he's a middling quarterback
Speaker 1: to start, So let's ease off on the public criticism
Speaker 1: of a guy. Why why am I the Jared Goff?
Speaker 1: Mike Silver now I'm like the silver of NFL media
Speaker 1: current day. That's about It's like they're without their top
Speaker 1: two receivers. They're starting center, their left tackle might be
Speaker 1: coming back finally, But like they've expect is what I mean.
Speaker 1: They're leading receiver DeAndre Swift and the second is t J. Hawkins.
Speaker 1: Don't act like you when you traded for Jared Goffe,
Speaker 1: you're expecting to get like Pro Bowl level play at
Speaker 1: quarterback position. You never gave the guy a chance. Uh
Speaker 1: and and Goff knows that. And Goff's just you know,
Speaker 1: Golf's getting paid very well as well, So it's like,
Speaker 1: I can't feel too bad for him. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: I feel like this is awkward for everyone, especially when
Speaker 1: it's forty one to three, Like, well, what if paint
Speaker 1: is scenario. What if Golf ever won this game? It
Speaker 1: was one of the greatest things we've seen in a
Speaker 1: long Yeah, people keep throwing out that stats. He's owing
Speaker 1: thirteen without McVeigh. You know that the situations were pretty
Speaker 1: difficult terrible teams, But uh, if if he won this game,
Speaker 1: that's their super Bowl. They don't need to win another game.
Speaker 1: They don't need to do anything else. That would be.
Speaker 1: I think it's much more likely that Aaron Donald literally
Speaker 1: pulverizes Jared Goff in a pancake sack situation. He's on
Speaker 1: the sideline at the end of the game. That's a
Speaker 1: much more likely scenario. Unfortunately, it doesn't feel like it's
Speaker 1: gonna end with the storybook conclusion. But we'll see, we'll see,
Speaker 1: and that concludes me defending Jared Goff at every turn. Apparently,
Speaker 1: UM Prime Time Sunday Night Football Cults at forty niners. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it looks like it's gonna be Jimmy Garoppolo. Trey
Speaker 1: Lance has a spring knee. He did not practice on Thursday. Uh,
Speaker 1: Garoppolo is practicing. He has the calf issue, so he'll
Speaker 1: probably be the starter. And they welcome a Cults team
Speaker 1: that I thought UM Sunday watching Sunday's game, they really
Speaker 1: looked like a team that was coming together a little bit.
Speaker 1: And then you think about the Monday night collapse against
Speaker 1: the Ravens and be like, okay, well, great quarters, three
Speaker 1: awesome quarters in that game, four awesome quarters last week,
Speaker 1: and even beyond that, Mark Carson Wentz, I think Paris
Speaker 1: Campbell went down with an injury, which is unfortunate, but uh,
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton's back and they're bombing it down field
Speaker 1: and he's looking like Eagles. Carson was like, Okay, put
Speaker 1: in Jonathan Taylor here and we're cooking a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They they're averaging nine more points per game in a
Speaker 1: hundred more yards per game over the last three weeks.
Speaker 1: Wentz has had two of his three highest single game
Speaker 1: passer ratings in weeks five and six, and right, if
Speaker 1: you look at that Ravens game, yes, the collapse was
Speaker 1: a mess. Love the way they responded last week, but
Speaker 1: the first three quarters showed you the kind of team
Speaker 1: that no one's done that to the Ravens, not that way.
Speaker 1: And like you've got DeForrest Buckner coming back into town,
Speaker 1: maybe a little agitated after San Francisco traded him away.
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard has been awesome for me. I find the Niners,
Speaker 1: uh kind of sucking as the most depressing storyline around.
Speaker 1: I mean, I they genuinely raised my excitement over the season,
Speaker 1: and Super Bowl teams do not lose three games in
Speaker 1: a row the way they've lost. And I don't think
Speaker 1: that with Trey Lance, were there yet eat whether he
Speaker 1: plays or not. I mean, and Jimmy g has a
Speaker 1: very identifiable ceiling. Are you guys taken because this this one,
Speaker 1: like the Colts have just looked like a better team
Speaker 1: than the forty and yet the four owners have to
Speaker 1: win this game. You know this is Jimmy Garoppolo's last
Speaker 1: stand potentially a starting quarterback. You're right about that. Buckeer
Speaker 1: trade has not worked out very well for San Francisco.
Speaker 1: They drafted Javon Kinla, who hasn't been great, is injured
Speaker 1: right now. The one thing I'll throw in there before
Speaker 1: I'm curious about your picks is that the Cults seem
Speaker 1: snake bit. Julian Blackman tours Achilles is out for the season.
Speaker 1: Was a big time player for them uh last year,
Speaker 1: was struggling a little this year, but was coming on lately.
Speaker 1: He's gone t Y Hilton reinjured or got a new injury.
Speaker 1: He's out of practice with the quality. Braden Smith hasn't
Speaker 1: come back yet at tackle. Rock Giessen, who's the starting corner,
Speaker 1: has also been hurt, so that his team has been
Speaker 1: pretty snake and with these injuries mentioned, Paris Quentin Nelson's
Speaker 1: still on I R WE don't know if he's gonna
Speaker 1: be back. It's a lot of Campbell's on I R.
Speaker 1: He hurts his foot after scoring fifty one yard touchdown,
Speaker 1: so that it is a it's a coin flip game.
Speaker 1: Because of that, I am so unimpressed with the Niners
Speaker 1: to date this season, but in their bill and gets
Speaker 1: the super banged up Cults team, I'm still picking Indie.
Speaker 1: I think, are you are you loving this? Uh? You know,
Speaker 1: Shanahan maybe not doing what we thought Shanahan would do.
Speaker 1: You specifically, it's a big moment for him because the
Speaker 1: hero worship of the guy who was always a little
Speaker 1: weird to me because he's done had one good season
Speaker 1: and it's still that case. You know what's funny, I
Speaker 1: just never understood it. You you've talked about him. Mark
Speaker 1: is a guy lording over a dynasty, literally win multiple
Speaker 1: super Bowls? How about multiple winning seasons? All right? But
Speaker 1: I've also called it the most storyline. So I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm equally annoyed by it, but I don't I don't like,
Speaker 1: I'm not like pumped about it. But it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is like they're kind of like this and under Shanahan,
Speaker 1: this is who they are kind of go ahead. It's
Speaker 1: similar to uh, it's similar to his dad, who for
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years of his career would get so
Speaker 1: much love as like an innovator and the hardest guy
Speaker 1: to coach against and all this stuff, but couldn't get
Speaker 1: them back to like a winning formula over again. Like
Speaker 1: Shanahan feels like one of the most influence coaches Kyle
Speaker 1: that is, of the last twenty years. And yet Dan's right,
Speaker 1: he has one winning record that's said as a head coach,
Speaker 1: that's said. And that's why Trey Lance is the secret
Speaker 1: to all of this. If he can get healthy and
Speaker 1: get the trust to Shanahan, getting the lineup and and thrive, Okay,
Speaker 1: everything changes because I feel like he's the guy that's
Speaker 1: supposed to unlock Kyle Shanahan's greatness once again. It just
Speaker 1: hasn't played out that way. And we're starting to get
Speaker 1: lifetime game because these teams are both confusing to me
Speaker 1: but could be something like it's a big game for
Speaker 1: the two of them, even if it's not a big
Speaker 1: one for better than Seattle Pittsburgh, right, that's true, or
Speaker 1: Seattle New Orleans for that And finally, Monday Night Football
Speaker 1: and now another edition of check Smith. He had a
Speaker 1: chance to be a hero last week. I mean he was.
Speaker 1: He set them up. Remember that field goal drive. It
Speaker 1: was like a legacy drive. Well, the bar is very late.
Speaker 1: He can he get them to overtime. He's got nineties
Speaker 1: seconds to do it, something Baker Mayfield couldn't do. Can
Speaker 1: he do it against this great Steelers? And then he kicked?
Speaker 1: They got the field goal. But that's the end of
Speaker 1: the hero. So all you need Greg, and let's look
Speaker 1: at it. So they got New Orleans this week, Seattle,
Speaker 1: they got Jacksonville next week, then they get to bye
Speaker 1: and then probably we'll see, but probably you would think
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson might be back for Week ten at the Packers.
Speaker 1: That's all conjecture, obviously. But all you need Greg to
Speaker 1: save face here, um is gino to have one big
Speaker 1: time game just before that bye and now you're down.
Speaker 1: He couldn't do the rams. He had the one and
Speaker 1: a half good drives. Uh in relief Pittsburgh not very good.
Speaker 1: But how about the grade you get two? You get
Speaker 1: to home games here and we'll start with the Saints.
Speaker 1: Bad news though, Greg, because we like the Saints. Uh,
Speaker 1: certain parts of the Saints. We do like their defense.
Speaker 1: If you're the Saints, you feeling good because you have
Speaker 1: a bye week, You've got a great coaching staff, so
Speaker 1: you're gonna be coached up again, getting healthy and I
Speaker 1: get Gino Smith. Uh, this feels like a good spot
Speaker 1: for the Saints. Unfortunately, right they're the number three defense
Speaker 1: in terms of d v O A, so this is
Speaker 1: a tough spot for Geno Smith. Carson's hurt and now
Speaker 1: they might have lost Collins to the Seahawks. Seem like
Speaker 1: they found something in terms of their run blocking in
Speaker 1: the second half of that game, and that would certainly
Speaker 1: help Gino out. But this is a tough Saints team
Speaker 1: to run against. Two Like I I don't see um
Speaker 1: them winning with the approach they took against the Steelers.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to be a little more aggressive offensively,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be tough because you have in Marshawn Lattimore,
Speaker 1: the rare guy that you think can match up pretty
Speaker 1: well with DK metcalf. I I know a Lattimore had
Speaker 1: that one or two plays against the Giants that went sideways.
Speaker 1: Other than that, I think he's the best cornerback I've
Speaker 1: seen this year. I think he is having his best
Speaker 1: see in and he's the key to that defense. It's
Speaker 1: a tough matchup, you know, Quan Alexander back at practice,
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport. I mean, we'll see who's all. They got
Speaker 1: a lot of read they're getting healthy coming. So I
Speaker 1: I to me because personally, I'm not saying that you
Speaker 1: guys have to do this, but I am personally forking
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. They are now well I did. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not announcing that you can join me, but I'm
Speaker 1: they're out of my It's been a nice, you know, decade,
Speaker 1: almost a decade run with Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1: But I'm not even sure that Russell Wilson won't be
Speaker 1: the Saints starting quarterback Week one next year. Here's yere's
Speaker 1: we we haven't forked a team in years, an old
Speaker 1: segment where we would all have to agree, all four
Speaker 1: of us. You guys would get infuriated when I wouldn't
Speaker 1: fork teams sometimes that right, but it's too safe. It's
Speaker 1: a personal forking. I don't know what anyone. We haven't
Speaker 1: done the segment in a long time. You were saying
Speaker 1: they have no chances. You're putting you are saying you
Speaker 1: will donate to charity if they make them. I am
Speaker 1: not saying I'll donate to anyone, but that's that is
Speaker 1: how it's worked in the past. So I don't think, God, Mark,
Speaker 1: stop it. I think I think Mark. I think, um,
Speaker 1: that was a mistake. I think that was a mistake
Speaker 1: because the NFC is very top heavy. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a little dirty down there in the wild card battle
Speaker 1: where you don't need to have a big season. Uh,
Speaker 1: you might even maybe even eight wins, who knows, get
Speaker 1: you in the playoffs nine and if you can just
Speaker 1: even if you lose this week and you beat Jacksonville
Speaker 1: next week, you get to the buy at three and five,
Speaker 1: and then Dangerous comes back and they heat up with Dangerous.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna it was a precise hit. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be sweating. I don't know who. The girl is
Speaker 1: telling me to stop it, she can stop it. No,
Speaker 1: I think you like that. I do like it, but
Speaker 1: but I can counter back. Oh my god, Mark, stop it.
Speaker 1: I think they maybe found good one. I found something
Speaker 1: last week and Trey Brown the rookie corner, you know,
Speaker 1: between him and DJ read that might good combo and
Speaker 1: Adams is playing a little closer to line of scrimmage. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe you find something there. He certainly had a pressure
Speaker 1: in that. What was the interception of the thing? I
Speaker 1: found it? D make a play right? And this is
Speaker 1: a this is a quarterback, Jamis Winston that I think
Speaker 1: Sean Payton has seen the light that he's gonna have
Speaker 1: to trust Jamis a little more. But Jamis make a
Speaker 1: throw the ball, get rid of it on pff. He
Speaker 1: faces the highest pressure percentage of any quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And that is not a reflection on his offensive line.
Speaker 1: That is a reflection on him holding the ball and
Speaker 1: pat and it. He's got to get rid of it.
Speaker 1: He's inviting all this pressure and Sean Payton's getting driven
Speaker 1: a little crazy. Alvin Kamara fifteen catches on the year,
Speaker 1: It's not even throwing him ride that Jamis coaster. And
Speaker 1: then was another edition of sipping on Veno checking one
Speaker 1: one big game payoff five years you like you know
Speaker 1: this bit goes on and on and on. Your Gino
Speaker 1: bit has been going on as long as almost any
Speaker 1: better on the show. But this will pay off with
Speaker 1: a big performance in primetime. Now, what if they lost
Speaker 1: thirty to thirty one, but he plays great, that's fine,
Speaker 1: That totally checks. I mean, it'll be better if he's
Speaker 1: the one that leads the final field goal drive or
Speaker 1: touchdown drive. But if he plays lights out and they
Speaker 1: just get beating the shootout, that counts as you being
Speaker 1: right about you know. I mean, yeah, Jamis Winston versus
Speaker 1: Geno Smith. Um I can. I hear Chris's voice a
Speaker 1: lot on this show and and with this game. I
Speaker 1: hear his voice and it's annoyed, it's angry. Well, he's
Speaker 1: not the only one voicing. It's saying things to me
Speaker 1: that are not kind. I do want to point out too,
Speaker 1: because this is important for you, Greg, because I know
Speaker 1: you know everybody wants to be right on the show.
Speaker 1: And you've went to bat for three quarterbacks repeatedly in
Speaker 1: the show, and especially this summer, many more than just three,
Speaker 1: but in particularly where it has been polarizing, where you've
Speaker 1: been on an island, Jamis Teddy Gino, you need at
Speaker 1: least one of these guys to come through by the
Speaker 1: end of the season. I mean, it depends what you
Speaker 1: define has come through. I think we know where they
Speaker 1: are at this point in their career relatively. I think
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston is going to lead this feisty Saints team
Speaker 1: to a fun season. It's a weird team. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: kind of fascinating. Yes, I think they're going to make
Speaker 1: the playoffs, by the way, And I should say that
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston, by the way, is you know, twelve touchdowns,
Speaker 1: three interceptions. Uh, he's got the season. His numbers are
Speaker 1: pretty good, his baseline numbers, so that is an improvement.
Speaker 1: But we'll see. There's a lot of football to go.
Speaker 1: He's had some rough ones as well. All right, before
Speaker 1: we go, The Westling brothers just rife with drama inside
Speaker 1: that family. And if you think this is something new,
Speaker 1: then you don't know the way the family is constructed.
Speaker 1: This is a family that when they were young, Mama Westling, Uh,
Speaker 1: there's so many mouths to feed. She would bring home
Speaker 1: a piece of raw steak and send the boys into
Speaker 1: the basement and throw it to the bottom of the
Speaker 1: stairs and say eat up. So and that was dinner.
Speaker 1: That was Sunday dinner. And they and there was no
Speaker 1: holds barret. It was clawing and biting and scratching and
Speaker 1: punching and kicking. Poor Larry was just a baby when
Speaker 1: when when some of the brothers are much taller than others,
Speaker 1: so you could tell kind of who we're winning those
Speaker 1: battles back in the exactly so. The fact that they've
Speaker 1: been scuffling uh in this protect particular game, the locks challenge, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, not surprising, but it should also be known
Speaker 1: they're doing very well here with this week's pick is
Speaker 1: Nick Westling. Hey, guys, Nick here again, I just want
Speaker 1: to let everyone at home know, in case you already
Speaker 1: didn't that's four in a row for the Westling brothers.
Speaker 1: And just to address Larry's so called spike pick last week,
Speaker 1: it's a good thing we didn't let him lock up
Speaker 1: the Browns since they got smoked. And we were all
Speaker 1: on board with taking the Jaguars over the Dolphins in London,
Speaker 1: so onto this week, once again we couldn't come to
Speaker 1: a consensus. We took ryone's second choice, So we're going
Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Chiefs in the Tennessee Titans. I
Speaker 1: know what you guys are thinking. The Chief's defense is
Speaker 1: weak and Derrick Henry is an absolute bulldozers that that's
Speaker 1: gonna run right through people. But reports of the Chief's
Speaker 1: demise have been greatly exaggerated. Patrick Mahomes is going to
Speaker 1: round in the Forum this week and that's why we're
Speaker 1: locking it up. Good day. You might want to get
Speaker 1: on Larry for how he chose me. And you know what,
Speaker 1: Larry brought a lot of energy, a lot of entertainment
Speaker 1: to his read I think Larry right now number one
Speaker 1: in the Westley. Well wait a minute, though, I thought
Speaker 1: that was a nice, nice calm delivery affectation for the
Speaker 1: Western brother They should be who they are. Nick is
Speaker 1: usually pretty charged up. He's been doing great. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying if he's going to take a shot at Larry,
Speaker 1: Larry brought it, and so I just wanted that to
Speaker 1: be No, I mean during the pod a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I understand. Um. All right, so you guys all
Speaker 1: took the chiefs. I know, I don't feel like warriorer.
Speaker 1: What what what are you settling on now? So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I thought it was seven just take the chiefs,
Speaker 1: So you know, no, no, I will I will take
Speaker 1: the Ravens over the Bengals. Hey get Grave, Okay, that's yeah,
Speaker 1: It's just it's six six Grave Digger, Get him on here?
Speaker 1: What about this? What about all these jabronies locking up
Speaker 1: against the Titans after that performance on uh Monday night,
Speaker 1: it looks like you guys are trying to end your streaks.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's kind of crazy. What that was
Speaker 1: a victory for? You know, this grave Digger doesn't usually
Speaker 1: drop a hammer. And yeah, I don't feel touched by
Speaker 1: a hammer or anything. He just you just got the
Speaker 1: buns of burner blow. I feel nothing from the Grave
Speaker 1: Digger in a big spot. But this is the rare
Speaker 1: time when Greg and I are on the same island,
Speaker 1: and you know, an uneasy alliance between Cessler and Rosenthal
Speaker 1: too many. I always thought it was silly when we
Speaker 1: have the same same picks. All right. And meanwhile, um,
Speaker 1: I got the Basochi bump, I got the oldson ol
Speaker 1: A got that going on? I mean, zoom is not
Speaker 1: something you want. Hey, come, you've got a bull counter back? Yeah,
Speaker 1: come here for him? Here. You think you got me
Speaker 1: figured out? Bang, you haven't. You went right through the
Speaker 1: old curtain like a third of them winding dead these
Speaker 1: and you go bowl. You guys are out of control,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll be wait, can I say one thing.
Speaker 1: Here we go. What I'm thanking a listener named Benjamin
Speaker 1: David Dawes who sent my face reaction to Mark same
Speaker 1: guy one wherever. Seriously, this is a very nice listener,
Speaker 1: Benjamin David as who sent lollipops. Dan, you've had one
Speaker 1: already one but he didn't send me the lollipops. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have some for the kids. Can I bring I'll
Speaker 1: happily give you something. This one is very very you
Speaker 1: know I do. You didn't even pick a purple on
Speaker 1: You didn't even pick that. That's not there was not one.
Speaker 1: I am an ally. We previously had someone send us
Speaker 1: lollipops for one of the flavors was breast milk, and
Speaker 1: I'm not that that. There was a very strange box
Speaker 1: of them. And this has more wholesome. Yes it is
Speaker 1: a wholesome product, but this is more lollipop. Is there
Speaker 1: anything more wholesome than I think? I think that would
Speaker 1: bank Mark such an ally if he was just licking
Speaker 1: a purple lollipop walking around the halls. Yeah, I'll work
Speaker 1: on that. Alle Bro lick a lollipop. Good stuff marks
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Speaker 1: the network wouldn't be too strong, all right, Dan hands
Speaker 1: a signing off for a quiet storm. The old Boss,
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood, the grave Digger. That's it all. The Westling
Speaker 1: brothers fighting over that beat Heed the call