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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast hasn't been blocked by Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling on Twitter. Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansens, and

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Speaker 1: I am joined by a room filled with some heroes,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rosa Doll. What up boys? Mark

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Speaker 1: Sssler not with us today at home with the family

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Speaker 1: doing familiar things. We will carry on without him on

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Speaker 1: another Sunday night in the NFL. My goal is to

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Speaker 1: be blocked by Chris Westling by the end of this podcast,

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Speaker 1: to say something so off. Well you you could probably

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Speaker 1: say something about his team of at L Nominee the

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Speaker 1: Steelers inter their meltdown today. Chris Westling, what was going

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Speaker 1: through your mind and your heart? Through my heart? Nothing? Yeah, black,

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a guy that just got back from Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I have a few things to say about that.

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Speaker 1: But come on, I'm never going back to that city.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, there's something nothing is have been

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Speaker 1: more doomed than Chris Westling's trip to Las Vegas from

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Speaker 1: the start and never had a shot, and sure enough

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Speaker 1: there was no upset. It doesn't seem like it was

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Speaker 1: great to revisit with a few of a few friends

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Speaker 1: that I've known for twenty or twenty five years. But

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Speaker 1: the city itself, come on, that place has nothing going

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Speaker 1: for it. All right, Well I like Vegas, but whatever, um, alright,

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Speaker 1: so we got a nice show, very nice show going

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Speaker 1: over all the games. This is the first bye week

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Speaker 1: of the season. So how many teams, greg, We're off?

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Speaker 1: Six six teams are off? So that uh so that

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Speaker 1: much to get to even with the bye teams. TV.

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Speaker 1: How you doing doing good? Guys doing good? How you

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Speaker 1: guys doing? Another shirt without sleeves? But a hood very confused.

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Speaker 1: It's a Sunday, guys. Come on, yeah you did come.

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Speaker 1: You came to our little pod in the newsroom and

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Speaker 1: This will be an issue with me for a long time.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm here today. This would be a good

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Speaker 1: hold up your emmy. All right, So let's get into

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Speaker 1: the games. And uh yeah, I guess the best place

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Speaker 1: Possibly that's how bad he looked. Chris Westling, you were

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Speaker 1: the Eagles meltdown on offense? The genius in trouble Hip

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Speaker 1: Steve Smith talked about this game before he was even

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Speaker 1: my favorite player of all time yet, Steve Smith. And

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Speaker 1: just see these sounds from West's pot area and then

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Speaker 1: whose stank in London. The Raiders are now owing four uh.

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr got hurt in the game, hurt his leg,

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Speaker 1: hurt his knee. He was replaced by Matt mcloin. I mean,

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Speaker 1: things cannot get any worse. For the Raiders right now.

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Speaker 1: So the Dolphins get back on track after the Ryan

432
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Speaker 1: Tannehill controversy created by his head coach. Are we back

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Speaker 1: in Greg Roselhal, Ryan Tannehill back of the horse? Now?

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Speaker 1: Now what Joe Philbin is gonna take credit for this

435
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Speaker 1: like he did, Joe Philbin name and started for a

436
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Speaker 1: week for you. I think go to Matt Moore. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Look they responded, they were down seven nothing quickly, and

438
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Speaker 1: I think we all were thinking, Wow, maybe the Dolphins

439
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: season is gonna flush away over there in London. Now

440
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 1: it's like it never happened too and two one of

441
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Speaker 1: the best games of Tannehill's career. He completed fourteen straight

442
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Speaker 1: at one point, had a passer rating over one. At halftime.

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Speaker 1: I'm beginning to think the Raiders aren't going to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year. Oh that's not nice. You always

445
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Speaker 1: the Four Committees. The Four Committee is getting together, uh

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Speaker 1: this this Wednesday on the Around the NFL podcast. Before

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into a conference room or there's gonna

448
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Speaker 1: be some croissans and coffee and other dishes, uh, and

449
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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about who's going down. I got a

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Speaker 1: very good feeling that the Oakland Raiders might get the fork.

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Speaker 1: And if you know what that is, Just so any

452
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Speaker 1: first time listeners, we deem who's done, who's finished? They

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Speaker 1: have no chance of making the playoffs. This feels a

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Speaker 1: little late, four weeks too late potentially, but I think

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Speaker 1: the Raiders and are a good chance of getting the fuck.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what other committee is meeting this week

457
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Speaker 1: Mark Davis and all his henchmen to decide Dennis Allen's future. Oh,

458
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Speaker 1: they're heading into a bye week, correct that this could

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Speaker 1: be the time. NFL media insider Ian Rappaport reported last

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Speaker 1: week that they won't start discussing Dennis Allen's status until

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Speaker 1: they have a laugher like the Tampa Bay Buccandeers did

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. The Raiders had the Dolphins had thirty eight

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Speaker 1: on answered points at one point in this game. It

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Speaker 1: was a laugher the Dolphins too. I mean this was

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Speaker 1: not they weren't getting rolled up on. It was the

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Speaker 1: Saints in the in the Super Dome. Embarrassing, embarrassing performance

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Speaker 1: for the Raiders, especially on defense. Are you saying, my boy,

468
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Speaker 1: Matt mcgloyne not gonna save the season. Matt mcgloyne came

469
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Speaker 1: in on his second play, they snapped it over his head,

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Speaker 1: went for a fifty yard touchdown to Courtland Finnegan, and

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Speaker 1: then a couple of plays later through an interception. It

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Speaker 1: was it was miserable all around. Circus music playing in

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Speaker 1: the background in London. You uh, Greg, you mentioned you

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Speaker 1: were worried about or there was a possibility that the

475
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Speaker 1: Dolphins season would flush down the toilet in London? Did

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Speaker 1: you know that the toilet flushes in the opposite direction

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Speaker 1: the lou in Australia, I think, But I don't know

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Speaker 1: about England. I don't think got nothing here. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I got nothing. I'm sure one of our listeners

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Speaker 1: gonna alert me if it flushes the right direction. What

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Speaker 1: makes our direction right? I'm an expert on Japanese toilets.

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Speaker 1: They're they're the Japanese toilets are something. Asian toilets are

483
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Speaker 1: the best by far there. I don't know if you

484
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Speaker 1: ever saw that Simpsons, I like that jumping in there,

485
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Speaker 1: that Simpsons episode where like the toilet, you know, talks

486
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Speaker 1: to Homer makes a dinner reservation for him. Like it's

487
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Speaker 1: pretty much like that. I don't really want my toilet

488
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Speaker 1: talking as the light. The light turns off when you

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Speaker 1: close the thing. I mean it's I want privacy there.

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Speaker 1: I don't want some rob it telling me what to do. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The toilet technology in Western si lization, Yeah it is.

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Speaker 1: It is something, all right. It only has one job.

493
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Speaker 1: Some things are to be kept something. The Pittsburgh Steelers

494
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: jumped out to a nice lead or fell behind, and

495
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Speaker 1: then got ahead of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, i should say,

496
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Speaker 1: at a seven point lead in the fourth quarter, and

497
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Speaker 1: then it all fell apart. Mac Mike Glennan takes the

498
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Speaker 1: Bucks down the field, hits Spence and Jackson for a

499
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Speaker 1: five yard touchdown with seven seconds to play, and the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: The Buccaneers beat the Pittsburgh Steelers at Hines Field seven

501
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Speaker 1: to twenty four. Uh. The Steelers committed thirteen penalties for

502
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Speaker 1: a hundred twenty five yards in the game. They let

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Speaker 1: a gimme get away and a team that was trailing

504
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Speaker 1: fifty six nothing. The week before, Chris Wessling, your team

505
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Speaker 1: of a t L nominee just went up in flames,

506
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Speaker 1: explained this to me. I think this is the most

507
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Speaker 1: bipolar team in the league. They don't know who they

508
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Speaker 1: are they kind of play like the Cowboys have been

509
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Speaker 1: playing for the last three years. That's not a compliment, No,

510
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Speaker 1: it's not at all. They can score on They came

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Speaker 1: out in a fog. Big Ben got sacked twice on

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Speaker 1: the opening drive. Tampa Bay got set up with a

513
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Speaker 1: really short field, the receivers kept dropping passes. Big Ben

514
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Speaker 1: was on point for most of the day and had

515
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Speaker 1: a great game. The Steelers just dominated for three and

516
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Speaker 1: a half quarters and let the Buccaneers hang around, and

517
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Speaker 1: they paid for it in the end. Wow. I can't

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Speaker 1: believe you really hit on it with calling him bipolar,

519
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Speaker 1: because the Browns game Week one awesome in the first half,

520
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Speaker 1: terrible in the second. Then you had a total stinker

521
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Speaker 1: in Week two and a perfect game in Week three,

522
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Speaker 1: and then you somehow lose to the Bucks. That's the

523
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Speaker 1: biggest roller coaster, and that's the that was the biggest

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Speaker 1: upset of the year. I think they could blow out

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Speaker 1: any team in the league. I think, and could lose

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Speaker 1: by blowout to any team in the league. That's a

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Speaker 1: good question. Is that the biggest blowout, I mean, the

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Speaker 1: biggest upset of the year. I think it is. There

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Speaker 1: hasn't been many consider done. What happened with the Bucks

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Speaker 1: last Thursday night. I mean, I think it was foregone conclusion,

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Speaker 1: and I wonder obviously we all picked it a zero

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Speaker 1: pick for the around the NFL team, we all took

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. I'm curious what that national consensus was that

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Speaker 1: they track all the people on NFL dot com. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it was at least nine percent or something. Steelers

536
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Speaker 1: had to be something absurd, but it didn't work out

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Speaker 1: that way. West. By the way, do you want to

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Speaker 1: use your Matthew mulligan and get the Detroit Lions as

539
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: a team of a TL nominee at the Steelers expense

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Speaker 1: and send him packing? Oh the way you phrase the question,

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Speaker 1: what I want to do is keep both the Lions

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Speaker 1: and the Steelers involved. That's what I want to do.

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Speaker 1: You can't, though, well, I I don't believe there are

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Speaker 1: roles in this game. Well, I have officially voted no

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Speaker 1: to the Pittsburgh Steelers, so they cannot be a team

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Speaker 1: of a teal. All right, Well that wasn't my doint,

547
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: so you take credit for that. There's gotta be rules,

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Speaker 1: a structure to life. No, they did not have to

549
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: be rules for team of a tale it's cowboys. You're

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Speaker 1: a cowboy, you wear your cowboy hat. I'm with you,

551
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: both are, but you don't understand the importance of structure.

552
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: Had Ceciler here with me, he would help. It doesn't

553
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: really matter because the Steelers aren't going to be the

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Speaker 1: team of at l You know, Mark should block him.

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Speaker 1: I'll block him. I just I can't imagine over it's

556
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Speaker 1: over is not taking as well. I was just trying

557
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Speaker 1: to think of how it's gonna respun. I need to

558
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Speaker 1: get the Lions in there. Then, yeah, right, the Lions

559
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: are now on the board, and that's a much better

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Speaker 1: all right. I'll give up the Steelers, but if they

561
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Speaker 1: start playing really well, I'm not gonna be thrilled. You

562
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: can root for him. You can do whatever you want,

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Speaker 1: all right. And by the way, speaking of the stick

564
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Speaker 1: of fork in him, uh, we talked about we we

565
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Speaker 1: missed the opportunity. We forgot to do it a stick

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Speaker 1: of fork in the bucks. And I guess maybe we

567
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: should hold off now with Mike Lennon. Look at Frisky,

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Speaker 1: he's we still want to do. They had sixty four

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Speaker 1: yards at halftime. You know, it's interesting that they're only

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Speaker 1: one game out of First, that's a fact. That's a fact.

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Speaker 1: They are not a good football NFC South, no winning

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Speaker 1: teams so far. I think he should be good at

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Speaker 1: football and they're not. Philip Rivers is on fire, gentlemen,

574
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Speaker 1: through for three seventy seven yards at three touchdowns today

575
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Speaker 1: and the Chargers beat up on the windless Jacksonville Jaguars

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Speaker 1: a thirteen win on Sunday and San Diego in a game. Really,

577
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Speaker 1: they just took care of business, is what they had

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Speaker 1: to do. Blake Mortals made his first start through two interceptions,

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Speaker 1: did throw a touched up past. But the Jaguars are

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Speaker 1: oh and four and the Chargers are rolling gentlemen, and

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is too. Is any quarterback in the NFL

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Speaker 1: playing better than Philip Rivers right now? Andrew luck the

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00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: past two weeks, last two weeks against soft opponents. Everyone

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Speaker 1: beats up on the Jaguars, and and the thing about

585
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars secondary when people are open, they were really open.

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00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean that that's what happens the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: But that's not to take anything away from Rivers, because

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00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: he also made a number of really fantastic plays in

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Speaker 1: this game when he was under pressure, evading pressure, just

590
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: doing Philip Rivers types of things. If the Jaguars were

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Speaker 1: any more of a tomato can, Greg Rosentholt lined them

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Speaker 1: up to challenge for his toaster. Well. Not as a defense, yes,

593
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Speaker 1: but now the offense is pretty interesting. Blake Borders looked

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Speaker 1: really good today. I know they only ended up with

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Speaker 1: fourteen points, but seven to fifty three, had a touchdown,

596
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Speaker 1: had two late interceptions when they were trying to play

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Speaker 1: catch up, made a lot of really impressive plays. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he has leapt off the screen more than any rookie quarterback. Certainly. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess just a couple of years ago they were

600
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Speaker 1: looking pretty good, but he his friends two thousand twice

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Speaker 1: not that long ago. But he's looked really good the

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Speaker 1: first couple of times out. I don't think we can

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Speaker 1: emphasize enough how bad the Jaguars are on defense, especially

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Speaker 1: past defense. Kirk Cousins and Luck had the best passer

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Speaker 1: ratings of their careers against him. Rivers was over one

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Speaker 1: thirty today, one of the best games of his career.

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Speaker 1: The Bucks gave up fifty six points to the Falcons

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Speaker 1: and have given up thirty three fewer points than the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars on the season. Wow. The thing about Rivers why

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Speaker 1: he is an m v P candidate this early, he

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Speaker 1: is He's not getting much help. They're running games thinks

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Speaker 1: two today from Brandon Oliver and Donald Brown, and the

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00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: defense is okay, but the offensive line is not playing well.

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00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: River has been under pressure quite a bit, so he

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00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: had to play really well in this game. And I

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Speaker 1: look ahead at the schedule for the Chargers. The three

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00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: and one now three straight wins. They really should have

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Speaker 1: won that Week one against the Cardinals they did not,

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Speaker 1: But three and one home to the Jets, the reeling Jets,

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Speaker 1: next week at the Raiders after that, and then home

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Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. They could easily be going six and

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Speaker 1: one heading into Bronco into Denver for Week eight, which

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Speaker 1: is a Thursday night football game. So Chargers are in

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Speaker 1: a good spot right now. Enjoy watching Keenan Allen this

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00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: week when you fire that up in game rewind had

626
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: a great, great game, just tip tiptoes and nice catches

627
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: and one final point. Everyone blames, you know, the offensive

628
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: line for Toby Gerhart struggles, but sometimes it's third and

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Speaker 1: one or fourth and one and Toby Gerhardt runs up

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Speaker 1: into that line like the Tiptoe Burglar. To use Dion

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Speaker 1: Sanders old nickname for Sean as in hit hit that run.

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Speaker 1: You know, Toby, let's go, You're split and carries with

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Speaker 1: Denard Robinson. That's a bad sign there. We brought up

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. So let's talk about Andrew Luck. The third

635
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: year quarterback through four touchdown passes on Sunday, leading the

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Speaker 1: Colts to a wipe out over the Landling Tenant, Tennessee

637
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Speaker 1: tight Tones, who have now lost three straight games. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He did this with the help of Reggie Wayne, who

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00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: still looks like Reggie Wayne. Seven catches for a hundred

640
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: nineteen yards and a touchdown, the Colts looking good against

641
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: bad competition. Wes, you said it, Andrew Luck is an

642
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: MVP front runner through four games. Greg, Do you agree?

643
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: Is he that level right now? Sure? Why not? I

644
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: mean he's it's four games into the season. He's played

645
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: three good games. I guess right. I wouldn't. He's been

646
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: on fire ever since you called him out. I didn't

647
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: call him out. I said, I think there's a correlation.

648
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to point out that he goes

649
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: in hot and cold streaks like other young quarterbacks like

650
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks, all quarterbacks, no like around the NFL has

651
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: been even Colts fans. No, he hasn't. He's not an

652
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: unbelievably accurate quarterback. I wouldn't say. Well, he's the only

653
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: quarterback in NFL history with back to back games with

654
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Speaker 1: three and fifty yards, at least four touchdown completions, and

655
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: only one total interception. So he's been pretty accurate the

656
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: last two weeks, right against the Titans and Jaguars. And

657
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: the thing that saves this Colts team is that they're

658
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: in that division. I'm not saying the Colds won't be

659
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: a good team, but the fact they're in this division

660
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: and when you're owing two, instead of having some tough

661
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: Week three game and going to Green Bay or whatever,

662
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Speaker 1: they get to play the Jaguars and the Titans back

663
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Speaker 1: to back. Here's the really good thing. I watched this

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Speaker 1: game closely today. If you're a Cults fan, you're really

665
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Speaker 1: excited about. Yeah, Luck lit lit a bad team up.

666
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: But he also wasn't sacked once, and that's what they

667
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: need to protect him, because without him they would be

668
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: the repeat of what happened after Peyton Manning got hurt.

669
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Speaker 1: They would go right down the drain and uh on

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Speaker 1: the other side, if you're curious, because I know I am,

671
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Speaker 1: I want to know about the Charlie Whitehurst. I was

672
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: gonna say the clipboard Jesus made an appearance, and you know,

673
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: he didn't kill the Titans. They didn't lose because of

674
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Speaker 1: Charlie Whitehurst. He threw a touchdown pass. He actually had

675
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: the Titans longest run of the game, which you tell

676
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: you something. He threw an interception. It wasn't his fault. Uh.

677
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: So Whitehurst did what white Hurst is gonna do, and

678
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: that's why he has a beautiful beach side fista of

679
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: you opens up. He's got all these acoustic guitars. I

680
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: tweeted that. I imagine he has all these acoustic guitars

681
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: and can only play part of Glysserene. I don't think

682
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: he has I don't think he has the ability to

683
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: hang with it, just like in quarterback, and he's just

684
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: kind of chooses to stay in the middle. But I

685
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: don't know why I'm taking shots of Whitehurst right now.

686
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: His team lost seventeen. It was one of the best

687
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: games of his career. He was right, uh yeah, so yeah,

688
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: and the Titans. If you got excited of after Week one,

689
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: they've lost three street and every game the season they've

690
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: given more and more points. I think for committee will

691
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: be discussing the Titans wow early, but that's how can

692
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: you fork a team that doesn't exist? Just before they

693
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: trade for Sage to be their quarterback. Dan hit on

694
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: a good point though. The offensive line for Indianapolis I

695
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: think a little bit better this year, don't we think? Yeah.

696
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: I think they're getting a little healthier too. And we

697
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: should give Chuck Pogano a little critic cause I feel

698
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: like we're a little critical Chuck, and maybe that's earned.

699
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: I like the successful onside kick attempt after their first touchdown.

700
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: Pat Pat McAfee, who's annoying on nfl am? Uh wait, no,

701
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: who's awesome on nfl am? Beautiful beautiful on side kick

702
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: recovered led to another touchdown. Uh so, good job by you,

703
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: Chucky Bugano. Nobody beats up on Patsy's like Chuck Pogano.

704
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: Chuck Strong. Teddy Bridgewater made his first start of the season,

705
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: PA's for three seventeen yards and a a rushing touchdown

706
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: in the Minnesota Vikings beat up and beat up and

707
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: held off the Atlanta Falcons forty one on Sunday. The

708
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: Vikings kind of franchise record with four rushing touchdowns, including

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Speaker 1: three from matt Acota and one more for Bridgewater. Uh.

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00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: Nice win for the Vikings and gentlemen, I ask you.

711
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons are kind of a hard team to

712
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: figure out right now. But I guess the thing we

713
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: do know is that their defense. They're a great home team.

714
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: This is two losses now away from home. This is

715
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: a bad loss. Teddy Bridgewaters first start, I mean, what

716
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: did he look like to you? He looked great. I

717
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: mean he averaged his yards per attempt average. What is

718
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: it if you go over ten, which is double the

719
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: gabber zone, It's like the Bizarro gabbered zone. Uh, ten

720
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: yards per attempt. H. He looked comfortable. He pushed the

721
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: ball down field. Uh, he ran the ball. Well. He

722
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: did everything you want except for finish the game. He

723
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: heard his ankle on his last carrier the game near

724
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: the goal line, came out. Actually got carded, but it

725
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: wasn't a serious card situation. I think that he gave

726
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: him some X rays. He came back on the field

727
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: for the final minutes. He told NFL Media's Omar Ruiz

728
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: after the game that he's gonna play on Thursday against

729
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: the Packers. A little bit of a bad luck, bad

730
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: break there that they have a short week to face

731
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the NFC. But if

732
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: you're the Vikings, you're thrilled by the way Teddy Bridgewater looked. Frankly,

733
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: I was surprised that he looked this good. He looked

734
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: ready and almost looked like a guy that should have

735
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: been in their Week one. Remember the Vikings Randy Moss's

736
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: rookie year, Chris Carter, Randall Cunningham, That's who the Falcons

737
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: made this team look like today. Five fifty eight yards

738
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: for the Viking. Wow, Matt as He Odda and Jerick

739
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: mcmickmc's McKinnon, Yeah he was, he was curious. Wright came

740
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: into this game with thirty seven yards. He had eight

741
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: catches for a hundred and thirty two yards in this game.

742
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: He was, Yeah, he was beating up a Marcus Trufont.

743
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: The one thing that annoys me, and I'm sure to

744
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: annoys thousands upon thousands of fantasys of cordal Uh Patterson.

745
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: They are not involving him in the run game. And no,

746
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: Rushes had a couple of catches in the game, but

747
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a big part. In fact, Gyrus Gyrouse Right,

748
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: Jarius Jarius Right had more targets ten than Greg Jennings

749
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: and Patterson combined. So I don't know whatever, whatever works,

750
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: because that's exactly so. Hey, listen, if you're a Vikings fan,

751
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: an absolute, out of nowhere, inconceivable disaster occurs where the

752
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: greatest player in franchise history disappears off the face of

753
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: the earth and they're still alive, and they got excited people,

754
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: and they're playing outdoors and the sun shining, and they

755
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: got a rookie quarterback who could be the new face

756
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: of the franchise. All is not lost in Minnesota. This

757
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: is really impressive win because so far it's been their

758
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: defense that's been the better side. And to bounce back

759
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: after two losses in a row like that and to

760
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: put up forty one points, the Vikings are gonna remain frisky.

761
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: We've we've been talking about they're gonna be a tough out.

762
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: When I was riding back from Vegas, I caught wind

763
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: of a cessler when I was listening to the podcast.

764
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: Oh yes, that's right. I forgot about that name to

765
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: watch if the Vikings win this in the final seconds,

766
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: Harrison Smith's safety, Why is that a Sessler? What's he

767
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: gonna do? Just maybe have the turnover? The changes the

768
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: complexion of this game. All right, let's let's say, let's

769
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Speaker 1: call it. Let's call it even we couldn't give him

770
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles Week three starter, but we're gonna give him this,

771
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: even though the game was a ten point game, and

772
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: but at that time, but still that ended the game.

773
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: Harrison Smith picked it off the end that you you

774
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: could say, it's a deciding interception. Mark not here to

775
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: accept his emmy. We're gonna have to throw it in

776
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: the garbage. Good job, Mark, Cessler. Mark doesn't listen to

777
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: the shows. He's not on though, so he'll never even

778
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: know we gave him. We'll have to tell him shows

779
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: he is on either. No, that's just not nice. Aaron

780
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: Rodgers told everybody to relax, and now Packers fans ken

781
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: a thirty eight to seventeen win, a convincing win on

782
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: the road against the Chicago Bears. Rogers was lights out,

783
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: three two yards and four touchdowns. Some big days by

784
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: big type quarterbacks today, Uh, the Packers scored on their

785
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: first six possessions possessions to build their lead, and that

786
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: is five straight wins for the Packers at Soldier Field.

787
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Speaker 1: And to talk about this game, we get on the

788
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: phone our Chicago around the NFL correspondent. He is the

789
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: great Kevin Patrack Kevin Patrick coming out here. What's up

790
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: at the boy? How's it going, fellows? How are your

791
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: loving life today? You know your Lions are in first

792
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: place and you got to watch one of your favorite

793
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: players of all time, Aaron Rodgers light up the Bears. Wait,

794
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: what about the Detroit Tigers clinching the uh the American

795
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: League Central Division? A big day for Detroit sports. I

796
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: didn't even There's nothing like backing into a win. So

797
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: tell us about the Green Bay Packers. We everyone was

798
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: worried that this offense or some people were worried that

799
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: this offense was not clicking, and what was wrong? And

800
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: then everything collicked? Tell us about it? Yeah, Aaron Rodgers,

801
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: and he said, looked phenomenal today. He was just throwing

802
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: darts and dropping dimes. It was really I mean, told

803
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: everyone to relax, like you said, and every there's no

804
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: reason to doubt that they can't come to form now

805
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: because he proved today running games. Still has a lot

806
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: of work to go. But if there's any question, Aaron

807
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: Rodgers is still the man, he showed it today, absolutely dominant.

808
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacy said this week that he looked at the

809
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: film of his terrible game against the Lions and it

810
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: was all about the pad level. Did that solve everything? Uh?

811
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Speaker 1: Did not? I mean, he still has no holes. He's

812
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: still running, running into defenders right at the line of

813
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: scrimmage and working for everything he's got. They still have

814
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: a lot of issues there and they almost just sort

815
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: of abandoned. He had some team ferries, but they just

816
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: went and they decided they could pick apart the Bear

817
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: set and darry and that's what they did. And as

818
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: the play action and Aaron Rodgers that all day to throw.

819
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: The Bears got next to no pass runch. They had

820
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: one sack, but that was for zero yard loss and

821
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: it was on a scrambled and they just didn't get

822
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: in his face and he had time to just find

823
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb. They were running free all

824
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: day in the secondary. There's was no There were no

825
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: punts in this game, which is only the second regular

826
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: season game in NFL history. Do a dump Capers uh

827
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: to somehow get that done. I mean when you look

828
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: at the box score, you see four ninety six yards

829
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: for the Bears for the Packers, So like, what what

830
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: makes up for that difference that the Packers still ended

831
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: up winning this game so convincingly. Well, it was the

832
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: quintessential checkl and high performance by j Cutler. They moved

833
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: the ball all game, even when even the second half

834
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: when they didn't score points, they were moving the ball.

835
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: He had one throw over the middle at the very

836
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: end that should have looked like it could have been

837
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: a touchdown, but they couldn't. They reviewed it and they

838
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: couldn't see my hide best play of the season was

839
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: blocking the camera I think. Uh. And he threw the

840
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: next two possessions in the second half, he threw a

841
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: pick and then they turned over on downs and then

842
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: he was out for Jimmy class and he just started

843
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: forcing throws in the second half when things weren't there.

844
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 1: And that's what it was. They were moving the ball fine,

845
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: and they was just to turnovers killed them and they

846
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: couldn't keep pace with Rogers. How about this NFC North

847
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: three teams at two and two, and you're Detroit Lions

848
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: now on top at three and one. Might as well

849
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Speaker 1: just start printing up the T shirts right now. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, as a as a Lions fan, you always

851
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Speaker 1: uh hold for the best and brace for the worst.

852
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Speaker 1: So we still got a lot of games to play.

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Speaker 1: That's true, alright, Kevin Patchah. Great hearing your voice, especially

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Speaker 1: strong connection you. Sometimes you sound like you're on a

855
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Speaker 1: battlefield in Sarajevo, but today you sound like you're next door.

856
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Oh, I appreciate it. A little peek behind

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Speaker 1: the curtains, which takes us to Sunday Night in Big

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Speaker 1: d where the Dallas Cowboy's welcome the New Orleans Saints

859
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Speaker 1: to town. The Saints have had struggles on the road

860
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: and that continued in a big way and big A

861
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: convincing win by the Cowboys, a dominant win really, where

862
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: the Cowboys jumped out to a lead on their first

863
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Speaker 1: drive and never looked back to Marco Murray led the

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00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: way with a monster game, well over a hundred yards

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Speaker 1: and multiple touchdowns. Tony Romo looks like Tony Romo again,

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Speaker 1: moving well, throwing touchdowns, not making killer mistakes. Gentlemen. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys romped the Saints, and I know they're Mark. I know,

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Speaker 1: at least Mark picked these Saints to win a Super Bowl.

869
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: But they're not gonna win anything if they keep struggling

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Speaker 1: on the road. And this was an ugly performance. Maybe

871
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: they're just not that good. They haven't played like they're

872
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Speaker 1: very good for a month. There hasn't been one good

873
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: Saints game where you came away from the game saying, Wow,

874
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: those are the Saints I expected. I think what had

875
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: me a little peeved in this game. The defense was awful,

876
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: but Sean Payton early in the game, they've got to

877
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: do in Cowboys territory on fourth and short, and they punt.

878
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: They don't even go for it. He There was twice

879
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: in the game where they had decisions like this where

880
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: it was just like, where's the Sean Payton? We used

881
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: to know the aggressiveness right. And they also took a

882
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: couple of field goals that you could have gone for

883
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: it on fourth down. Shane Graham missed one of them.

884
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: Another when they're trailing I think it was twenty four

885
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: nothing at the time after halftime, and yet they go

886
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: for a short field goal instead of going forward on

887
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: fourth down and Dallas immediately responds with the drive. It's

888
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Speaker 1: just and I don't know whether to be more impressed

889
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys are more annoyed at the Saints. Yeah,

890
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean and I yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

891
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: There are a couple of things that jump out to me.

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Speaker 1: Number one, first and foremost, the Cowboys are three and one. Yeah,

893
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Speaker 1: that's a little time for first place. I don't think

894
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: any of us saw that. Number two, even though the

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00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: Saints have proven time and time again when you look

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00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: at the numbers that they're not the same team on

897
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: the road offensively. Uh, the Cowboys defense really shutting down

898
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: the Saints is really impressive to me. And number three,

899
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Speaker 1: Tony Romo and I tweeted this out early in the game.

900
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: You know the guy when he messes up, social media explodes.

901
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: When he plays well, you you don't hear anything. And

902
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: let's give the guy some credit. He's coming back from

903
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: another back surgy. He looked bad those first two weeks.

904
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: We all wondered if he was gonna ever be the

905
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: same guy or if it was gonna be something he

906
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: was gonna take a long time. Well, the answer is

907
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: now by week four of the season. He's the same

908
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: guy that's been a really productive player for a decade.

909
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: I give Westling credit for telling me to calm down

910
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: when I was west basically was the equivalent of your

911
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: shut up. Yeah, I just sat up. I agreed with you.

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00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: He I agree with your analysis completely. He looked bad.

913
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 1: He didn't look like he was fully recovered from back surgery.

914
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: But I didn't think that meant he would be the

915
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: same way all year. Well, one thing he's done the

916
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks is avoided pressure in the pocket,

917
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: which is his trademark, really, and so that indicates a player.

918
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Speaker 1: Even if he doesn't have as much juice on his fastball,

919
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: that's more important that he's getting out of the way

920
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: and he's feeling healthy enough to do that. And they

921
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: have the most consistent running back in the league right now.

922
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: They're very controlled, efficient, smart offense right now, at least

923
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: for a few games they've been. It's exactly how we

924
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: thought in the preseason. The Cowboys are winning with the

925
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: defense and ground attack. Well what about this this Saints offense,

926
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: because look, they haven't had a great running game and

927
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: they haven't had big place even though they're moving the

928
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: ball very well. Before this game, they haven't had big plays.

929
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Speaker 1: They missed mark Ingram. He was the big playmaker where

930
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 1: you and mark Ingram. He has been fine mark Ingram

931
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: averaging six yards of carry, which I believe leads all

932
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: NFL running backs starters. This is it's something else that

933
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 1: uh Sean Payton has to be wondering when he looked

934
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: across the sidelines in this game, maybe I maybe I

935
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: got the wrong defensive coordinator here. Maybe I should have

936
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Speaker 1: had Rod Marinelli. Jerry Jones knew what he was doing,

937
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: firing Rob Ryan. Rob Rob Bryan good every other year,

938
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: So this is a bad Rob Bryan here will be

939
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: back to add Santa potentially somewhere else next year. You

940
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: know that Jerry Jones had to always loving this. They

941
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: showed a shot and when they went up thirty one

942
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: three in the in his giant lavish box of him

943
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: grinning maniacally, he was just this is a special game

944
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: for him because you know that he was happy not

945
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: only get the win in prime time, to go to

946
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: three and one against the Marquee team, but to get

947
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: it against Rob Bryan, who you know, took a shot

948
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: late this week about the Dallas as a new coordinator

949
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: every year and blah blah blah Bob Bates dds. By

950
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: the way, my father in law texted me about four

951
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: minutes ago, so how about them Cowboys? So lone star

952
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: state is all in the Cowboys. You kind of always

953
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: want to like the Cowboys too, had a hero pick.

954
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: The Saints are only one game back in the NFC South,

955
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: so that's good for them, But when you look at

956
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: their schedule and you look at the NFC South schedule,

957
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Speaker 1: I'm convinced you're only getting one playoff team from the

958
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: NFC South. No wild card team is gonna come from

959
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: it because everyone's schedule when you look ward, is brutal

960
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: because they have to play the NFC West out of

961
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: division and they have to play the a f C

962
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Speaker 1: North out of division. If there's no easy games. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you look at the Saint schedule Detroit, Green Bay, Carolina,

964
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Speaker 1: San Francisco, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Carolina. I mean, it's just NonStop,

965
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: no no gimmes. All right. So that is Sunday Night's

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Speaker 1: edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. We will be

967
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: back on Wednesday. We'll be talking about and maybe a

968
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: little talk about Monday Night football, some news. Obviously we're

969
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: gonna get the four community together. We're gonna check in

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Speaker 1: on t V because I'm sure he's already started on

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Speaker 1: his win. Greg's toaster. Uh, contestants rounding some up West

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Speaker 1: while you were out, while you were in Vegas, we

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Speaker 1: did some initial talk about getting some as Greg puts

974
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Speaker 1: a tomato cans lined up. So if you think you

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Speaker 1: could take down Greg Rosenthal ahead of the Titanic rematch

976
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Speaker 1: with Chris Wessling, uh, you hit up at producer TD

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Speaker 1: on Twitter and he'll get it done. Our video our

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Speaker 1: video segments, where can they be accessed by the way

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Speaker 1: t D if you want, if people seem to on

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com, NFL now, it's in the articles Tonight's

981
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Speaker 1: some some posts are gonna be in tonight's articles recapping

982
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Speaker 1: in games and uh it's everywhere. Also at everywhere at

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Speaker 1: our podcast landing page to it is the NFL dot

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Speaker 1: com slash slash gas slash Yes, slash podcast slash also

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Speaker 1: a video podcast channel. It's it's full of the guys

986
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Speaker 1: on Twitter. You'll see it on there. And we wanna

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Speaker 1: thank everyone who's watched the videos so far and have

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Speaker 1: quickly made them the most watched videos in there. Are

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Speaker 1: you kidding men? Dot com? That's not true. That's not true.

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Speaker 1: Might there's no one's told me it's not true. We

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Speaker 1: are now ubiquitous al right, So that's it. This is

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Speaker 1: Dan Hanson signing off for the Mailman, the Boss and

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Speaker 1: t D behind the glass. I thought it so. K

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Speaker 1: Rich back there too. We will be back on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: See you then,