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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to move the six, DJ, Bucky Rhett back with

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Speaker 1: you here as we continue to not only look back,

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. It has been in a crazy,

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Speaker 1: crazy start to the season here two weeks in. I

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Speaker 1: think we've got some interesting things to jump into today.

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Speaker 1: To say the least, we like to look at the

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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Well, give the offense a

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Speaker 1: lot of a love here, but let's flip it over

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Speaker 1: to the other side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: We'll go player and then we'll go team RHTT.

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Speaker 1: If we're going to start player, I mean, I come

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Speaker 1: through all the numbers every week and I want to

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Speaker 1: see who I want to watch, and guys like kway

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Speaker 1: Walker at seventeen tackles. That was fun watching his tape

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Speaker 1: and what he did. We talked a little bit earlier

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Speaker 1: they generate turnovers, getting pressures and sacks. But this is

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Speaker 1: a Micah Parsons League right now, and we're all just

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Speaker 1: living in.

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Speaker 3: You better believe it, man, This is so much fun,

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Speaker 3: like just to go back and watch, just watch how

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Speaker 3: You know, look, Dwayne Brown's a good left tackle, right.

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Speaker 3: I get it, He's older, he's up in his career

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Speaker 3: lined up at left tackle out there, he goes all right,

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Speaker 3: he's got Micah. He knows he's one on one with Micah.

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Speaker 3: He goes, all right, kick slide one, I'm good. Kick

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Speaker 3: mean it happens so quickly that he can get around

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Speaker 3: You know, like people I feel like, want to you know,

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Speaker 4: Compare him to Lawrence Taylor.

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Speaker 3: But I'm like, well, you're kind of doing that anyway here.

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Speaker 3: And look, I get it, he's just so dang good,

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Speaker 3: but it's not Lawrence Taylor. The comparison, the way he

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Speaker 3: Micah uses his hands to get free I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: like Daniel LaRusso after painting mister Miyagi's fence all day.

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Speaker 3: He's highly skilled and a little piss off that he

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Speaker 3: And he like the way he just gets free that

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Speaker 4: Still gets to the quarterback there. I mean, like that,

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Speaker 3: We just don't see it, and we're not seeing it

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Speaker 3: And here's the other thing when you got something you

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Speaker 4: You heard it here first on move the sticks, DJ.

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Speaker 3: If I remember correctly you said about Micah and when

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Speaker 3: you line up on the edge right twenty you said twenty.

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Speaker 5: He's an unbelievable player. He's even better than we could imagined.

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Speaker 5: And it's funny when you go back and you look

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Speaker 5: He has to be in the conversation being the best

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going back through and I'm pulling up my

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Parsons has a big athletic frame and possesses excellent speed

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Speaker 2: Overall, there aren't many holes in parsons game.

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Speaker 1: It's difficult to find linebackers with his size and ability

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Speaker 2: He can run with backs like anything you want him

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Speaker 2: But this is not the position that he was manning

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Speaker 5: Now it's not a position he was manning at Pennas State.

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Speaker 5: But for disclosure, in high school, he was a defensive

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Speaker 2: He was a defensive end running back.

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Speaker 5: And you know, as scals, we always dig deep into

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Speaker 5: him to be as gifted as yet because we've seen

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Speaker 2: Michael Parsons is a.

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Speaker 5: Maniac when it comes to the work, and because he's

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Speaker 3: And look, I think we can get enamored right with

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Speaker 3: and that's rush the passer. And perhaps the best way

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Speaker 2: But he can do absolutely anything you want on a

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's let's get over to the team side

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Speaker 1: of things here, And I want to start this conversation

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Speaker 1: Successful defenses, they take the football way, they hit the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna look at this Thursday night football matchup one

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Speaker 1: All right, we got an interesting Thursday night game between

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Speaker 5: It's exactly what exciting we thought they would pick up

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Speaker 2: They won't have Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 5: this would be a very, very tough battle for the Giants.

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Speaker 5: But Brian Daboll has found some things with Danny Dives

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, you know, you got fourteen or you

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Speaker 2: This is a defense in the forty nine ers. You're

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Speaker 2: I just don't see him giving up those plays.

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Speaker 5: Now, that's the thing that Niners don't give up a

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Speaker 5: A tall task for the New York Giants this week,

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Speaker 3: You know, I guess I would say, just like from

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Speaker 4: These first couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: You know, get the couple hundred yard games and that look,

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Speaker 4: First couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and for the opposite with the with the Niners.

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Speaker 1: You didn't have a play over thirty one yards in

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Speaker 1: They just don't need it, and so they haven't had

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