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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm John and this is cut

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Good do it, Good do it. They's getting

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<v Speaker 1>down to do it. Good do it. We asked the

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<v Speaker 1>questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked,

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<v Speaker 1>let's cut to it. You ain't heard am about it,

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<v Speaker 1>then we're about to let you know. It's all. You're

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<v Speaker 1>just getting back in the swing of things. Took a

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<v Speaker 1>little break. Um, took a little break, and we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into that. Um can't. Nobody saidhi to me. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here, Oh Joe, Hey, fellas, what's going on? Stage Joe?

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<v Speaker 1>Stage Joe, Joe, every guy? I mean my own Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Hot because I want to be cart it since I

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<v Speaker 1>missed y'all, Mike hutting backdoor, Joe. I'm already ready to

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<v Speaker 1>be done with stage. That's not my stage name, Mike Hot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a that's a different ballgame, son, all right. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>so I had to I with the pandemic. I really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of Me and my wife had a great understanding

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<v Speaker 1>conversation was like, look when the pandemic is over everything

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<v Speaker 1>we want to do traveling wise, let's do it. Because

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things I feel like the pandemic did

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<v Speaker 1>do it exposed blind spots and myself. I can't really

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<v Speaker 1>say about my wife or buddies. I just say for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and in that blind spot, I'm not really a camper.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did some camping, camping, camping, yes, camping, like

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<v Speaker 1>like backpacking and like r V camping, like a smart s'more,

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<v Speaker 1>like a pull up to an RV camp and clean

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<v Speaker 1>out the toilet and grind up the items in the toilet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like some MTV road Rules type stuff. No, not

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<v Speaker 1>no role rules the Smiths. No, I didn't see that show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's new w brocome back. So so one of so

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things I did was I went back on.

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<v Speaker 1>I went back home and I saw some things. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was good for man. And every time I

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<v Speaker 1>go back home. I used to go back home a

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<v Speaker 1>lot when I was in the league. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>go back home now, um, it's a different resett and

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<v Speaker 1>in it, uh it energizes me, It resetsed me, gets

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<v Speaker 1>me back on my focus to where Uh I come

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<v Speaker 1>back hot, I come back focused and so, um, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things it did is it triggered and reminded

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<v Speaker 1>me something that I experienced when I was young, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably in the seventh eighth grade. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it leads me to, um, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always big on words and definitions, and um, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask ask both of you, two gentlemen that I

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<v Speaker 1>called friends and brothers, what's your family heirlooms? And so

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<v Speaker 1>I'll read up and give you the definition of where

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<v Speaker 1>the heirloom is. So it says the first one a

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of property such as a deed or or

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<v Speaker 1>a chapter that descends to the air as an inseparable

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<v Speaker 1>part of inheritance of real property. Two which I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like this applies to something of special value handed down

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<v Speaker 1>from run generation to another. And for me, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I realized what was handed down to

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<v Speaker 1>me was I was handed down whether my family knows

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<v Speaker 1>it or not. And something that I noticed is to

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<v Speaker 1>take away that part of day dreaming, taking away of

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<v Speaker 1>short change in yourself. When I was when we were

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<v Speaker 1>I believe either eight or my freshman year, sophomore year.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember exactly what great I was in And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I started my foundation is my mom was

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<v Speaker 1>fleeing a domestic domestic violence situation. And when my mom

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<v Speaker 1>was fleeing that domestic violence situation, um um, some folks

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<v Speaker 1>came on some church, a church that you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of went through here and there, um came home.

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<v Speaker 1>So when she came home, she was told we told

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<v Speaker 1>my mom came home and say, hey, we gotta go

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<v Speaker 1>pack up all your stuff. Uh. And so when she

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<v Speaker 1>packed up all her stuff, we had to leave. And

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<v Speaker 1>we lived in a motel for about a week and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to catch the bus and and then after

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<v Speaker 1>that I went with an aunt. And I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say that this is his name because a little my family,

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<v Speaker 1>uh so of my family listens to the podcast. But

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<v Speaker 1>this aunt made me and my mom and my brother

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<v Speaker 1>when we came there to kind of stay until he

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<v Speaker 1>until my mom's husband, who was not my father's name

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<v Speaker 1>was Sylvester Morris. Sylvester was very abusive. Sylvester was he

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<v Speaker 1>was at the actually at that time he was before

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<v Speaker 1>they you went through t s A became TS. He

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<v Speaker 1>actually used to smuggle, he used to clean the money

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<v Speaker 1>and basically he had going on a trip and be

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<v Speaker 1>strapped with ten thirty thousand dollars worth of cash and

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<v Speaker 1>then taking on site and so we used to get

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<v Speaker 1>that money. Um. But he was also he smoked crack.

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<v Speaker 1>He smoked weed to keep during the week. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>smoke cracking. Every time he would go do one of

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<v Speaker 1>those money cleaning deals on the airplane, he get missing

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of days. And so when he got

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<v Speaker 1>missing this last time, my mom we was like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>out of here. And so when we left, Um stayed

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<v Speaker 1>in the motel and then we went with my aunt

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<v Speaker 1>and my aunt made us clean her her duplex or

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<v Speaker 1>her apartment in our house whatever it was. And they

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<v Speaker 1>had three bear rooms and she made us basically to

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<v Speaker 1>pay the rent. That was our way of pain. And

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<v Speaker 1>why do I say that is more if I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize that in a desperate time with family, my aunt

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<v Speaker 1>made us clean her house so we can stay there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my mom was like, you know, Steven, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to make it to the league, because I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing bad, and obviously school was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of the last thing was on my mind at that time. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and none of my boys back home. I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to school with new they just thought I still lived

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<v Speaker 1>on was half Cambridgeway, and none of them knew that

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<v Speaker 1>we were where we were living, and so I got

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<v Speaker 1>on a different bus stop and all that stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't doing good at school. My mom said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you want to do what you wanna do,

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<v Speaker 1>go to school, you know, go to you want to

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<v Speaker 1>play ball, like you said playing college. You gotta pay attention. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you need steve an. You need to tighten up. And

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<v Speaker 1>Mom asked me, what do you want to do? So

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go to the league. And I never

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<v Speaker 1>really put it in this perspective, but I remember she saying,

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<v Speaker 1>she told me, you need to have a more realistic dream.

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<v Speaker 1>And bro, that crushed me. If I'm being honest to

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<v Speaker 1>pissed me off. It pissed me off to the point

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<v Speaker 1>of this aren't now at forty two years old. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the league, she would ask me for stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>asked me for this, asked me for that. I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>never sign a ship for her and still having our

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<v Speaker 1>want because I only can speak for what I know

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<v Speaker 1>and what I've experienced, and only things that's tough is

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<v Speaker 1>I hate the fact that we in a time where

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<v Speaker 1>I needed someone to encourage me more. She should own

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<v Speaker 1>my dream. And then when I made it, now she

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<v Speaker 1>want to partake in it. And I realized, and I

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<v Speaker 1>go back in it. And I didn't realize I even

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<v Speaker 1>had that wound. And you know, and God has helped

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<v Speaker 1>me deal with it. Is I realized and she showed me.

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<v Speaker 1>She sold me short. She told me to stop daydreaming

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<v Speaker 1>when at the time you're supposed to day dream, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're a little kid, when your boy freshman, you get

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<v Speaker 1>you you fleeing from your hut, your mom's husband, bad habits.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's all I got. And she took that away

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<v Speaker 1>from me, hm m hm. And I hate the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that too many adults we poop on young men and women,

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<v Speaker 1>especially people of color, amongst our own selves, that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't we we sure change ourselves to day dream. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm telling I'm telling you, you know, till the

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<v Speaker 1>day I died, Man, I ain't gonna shut change myself

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<v Speaker 1>no more. I'm not gonna tell myself stop dreaming. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's the family heirloom and some of

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<v Speaker 1>my family members, because of our circumstances, we may have

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<v Speaker 1>done to each other m hm, unconsciously that what we've

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<v Speaker 1>handed down generation and generation has said, oh you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be this. Uh, that's too big of a that's

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<v Speaker 1>too big of a ask. We don't do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you asked about the heirlooms. I can't really tell

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<v Speaker 1>you an heirloom. I know, physical, physical wise, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have some Some families have Bible, some families have things

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<v Speaker 1>they've passed down. I don't have none of that. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>UM and my wife, what's big for us is breaking

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<v Speaker 1>generational curses. And that ain't answering your questions, but for but,

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<v Speaker 1>but but for me, it is UM being able to

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<v Speaker 1>pass my pass on to my kids, financial literacy, giving

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<v Speaker 1>them UM a nest egg, being able to the generational

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<v Speaker 1>trauma and the hurt and all these things that I

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<v Speaker 1>hear you talking about that you experienced and and now

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to UM almost look back and deconstruct what

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<v Speaker 1>it is and where it came from. That kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that is very president of my family. And now, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you you've shared some stuff. I haven't sewn

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast before, but I lost my dad a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks back, and even in that, what's happened is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>able to look back the same way I'm talking in

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<v Speaker 1>with that is be able to look back and be

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<v Speaker 1>able to deconstruct not only his life and his impact

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<v Speaker 1>on my life, but how it's affected my life. And

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<v Speaker 1>all that does is really reinforced what I believe. Um

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<v Speaker 1>I'm called to do, and I know I speak for

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<v Speaker 1>my wife when she says the same thing is is

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<v Speaker 1>breaking curses. So that's what I can because that's literally

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<v Speaker 1>what this time in life is, is that generation after

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<v Speaker 1>generation after generation of hurt, generation after generation after generation

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<v Speaker 1>of pain, generation after generation after generation of let down,

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<v Speaker 1>a poverty, or any of these other things that do

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<v Speaker 1>tend to play not just not just families of color,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of families. So that so that tells

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<v Speaker 1>me my fair layerylan, my family heirloom. Until mine was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the negative thinking I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>mine's peace. That's what your family I want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm not want to that's I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>pass along people that beats my coin collection. So no,

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<v Speaker 1>just sit you know, Gerard and I had the luxury

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, knowing you pretty well and knowing where

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<v Speaker 1>you came from and knowing about your life and every

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<v Speaker 1>once in a while I get a little nugget or

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<v Speaker 1>a little kernel of something like, ah, I didn't know that,

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<v Speaker 1>but now it makes sense because when I see you

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<v Speaker 1>interact with the public and even in private, the way

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<v Speaker 1>you treat people, and even you know, I go back to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a banner that we may have talked about

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<v Speaker 1>about some of these rising upcoming athletes. You were still

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<v Speaker 1>positive to them, even though you did it in your

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<v Speaker 1>own way. You didn't poop on their dream that they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to be an athlete or they were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play for University of wherever. So you've taken what you

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<v Speaker 1>said and you continue to live and it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of verbiage from your history. And then folks

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<v Speaker 1>that know you know what drives you like you know

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<v Speaker 1>you were that dude. You know, look at all the

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<v Speaker 1>athletes we've had. You know, Steve's a dog. Well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>things in your upbringing that made you that person today.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know it sucks, and I know it it

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<v Speaker 1>stung you in a little bit. But the the glad,

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<v Speaker 1>the glass half full, pieces um that drive and could

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<v Speaker 1>partially could have been. Man, I'm gonna prove you wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it was a coach, whether it was your aunt

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<v Speaker 1>whomever it was. Um. So, yeah, that's horrible and that sucks,

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<v Speaker 1>but what it's done for you that like, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do that, Like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt these people or hurt these youngsters. So, UM, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that story. And then you know, g looking at you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know from the story you want to do is

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you didn't have any family heirlooms, but you want

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<v Speaker 1>to create them with your family growing up. Um. Mine

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<v Speaker 1>is a material item. There's a couple of material items.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a to this day, I still have this call

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a Rambo knife. It's not a coin collection.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to lighten the move a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, thank you. Uh, it's this Rambo knife that

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<v Speaker 1>my dad had. My dad was in the Marine Corps

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<v Speaker 1>for many, many years, um, and he had this knife

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<v Speaker 1>that when he was a young adult and he went

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<v Speaker 1>in at sixteen years old. His mom actually signed him

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<v Speaker 1>over and said, here you go, he's yours now. So

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<v Speaker 1>my dad was in the military for many, many years

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<v Speaker 1>and and for whatever reason, he kept this knife. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm I'll be fifty years old next month,

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<v Speaker 1>so I've had that knife as long as I can remember,

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<v Speaker 1>and we take it camp in and we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I do tasks with it. But even when I just

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<v Speaker 1>go cut a string, like I envisioned in my mind, Like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Papa Joe was what we call my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what did he do with this? Some things we

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<v Speaker 1>might not want to know, but I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the things that he did allows us and others to

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<v Speaker 1>do what we do today, you know. So I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>loyal to military. Even my wife. You know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>her father who's passed away. You know, we have his hat.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, our family's very military driven. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny my daughter's sitting in the studio right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Eva and like we want to pass it on to

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<v Speaker 1>her because she knows the type of individuals they are.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, any time I get that knife in my hand,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a piece of my father. Any Time we look

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<v Speaker 1>at that hat that that my wife Kim has, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like that's a piece of her father. So those are

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<v Speaker 1>heirlooms that aren't monetary value things, um, but they symbolize

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<v Speaker 1>something to us. So that's kind of when you set heirlooms.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the first thing that I thought about, like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I got that knife, and you know Kim has that hat.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's just really cool to think what each

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<v Speaker 1>heirloom means to each family and what they want to

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<v Speaker 1>do with it. So you know, it's that's really neat.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know both of you all, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I learned something every every time we talk something new

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<v Speaker 1>about you guys, So it brings to me. Usually we

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<v Speaker 1>do it at then, but it's the beginning when a

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<v Speaker 1>man's willing and eager God will join in. H Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been willing to eager to reshape chain age

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<v Speaker 1>my perspective and thinking, and then doing that, God joined

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<v Speaker 1>in and showed me I gotta let some things go.

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<v Speaker 1>So today letting go. What my aunt said, I let

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<v Speaker 1>it go. I'm exposed myself, but you're still inside in

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<v Speaker 1>that jersey, are you? Nope? Who? We got first segment

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<v Speaker 1>it's called get ice Stuck. It's our version of icebreakers.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Are you ready? Maybe? Okay, buckle, it's on you.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you fail, it's your faults nutshell? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>What type of sugar do you prefer? Brown sugar? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>White sugar? Brown sugar always brown, always? But you know

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<v Speaker 1>you can turn white sugar into brown sugar sort of

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<v Speaker 1>camel that. I know some dudes and their name is

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<v Speaker 1>Pooky Richard and a whole bunch of the names that

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<v Speaker 1>have turned some white sugar some brown sugar. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think white sugars want to be brown sugar. The truth

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<v Speaker 1>is like, brown sugar can't be turned into white sugar.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's the authenticity. Our talent acquisition manager is not

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<v Speaker 1>liking this conversation. You're trying to wrap us up. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>no can do brown sugar baby, right, all right? So one,

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<v Speaker 1>you being a bona fide cook, one thing your family

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<v Speaker 1>loves for you to make, but realistically you're like, do

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<v Speaker 1>I really have to do that again? Oh m? She said, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's several things. It's a couple of things. I mean, truthfully,

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<v Speaker 1>I see my mom so rarely that I'm always very

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<v Speaker 1>happy to do whatever she wants me to do. Normally,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a giant pile of like celery and onions

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<v Speaker 1>and carrots for Thanksgiving, Like she has given up doing

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<v Speaker 1>the prep. She doesn't let me cook anything. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>like Linda's Thanksgiving. But I am the hands that do

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<v Speaker 1>all the chopping She's like, you can just get it

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<v Speaker 1>done a whole lot faster. So I just I come

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<v Speaker 1>into my mother's house seeing like mounds of produce that

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<v Speaker 1>she needs me to break down for her, which I

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<v Speaker 1>truly do not mind doing. Flex. That's all you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>is prepping exactly. She wants me nowhere near the actual

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<v Speaker 1>preparation of Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving us like mother specific. Right, it's regional,

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<v Speaker 1>it's mother's specific. I don't want my Thanksgiving when I

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<v Speaker 1>go to her house. I want her Thanksgiving's like taking

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<v Speaker 1>him a quarterback and putting them in right tackle kind

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<v Speaker 1>of Yeah, team sucks. Dan, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard and read you're spice junkie. I am what

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<v Speaker 1>should go to spice? I have a jar of Vietnamese

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<v Speaker 1>chili in my fridge at all times. It changes because

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<v Speaker 1>I get I'm also I get very bored very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now it's um. This jar of Vietnamese it's

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<v Speaker 1>literally just red Ti chili that's been chopped up with

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of vinegar, salt, and sugar. What kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sugar? Steve is furiously taking palm sugar? Actually, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's not it's um. It's from it's from palm trees,

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<v Speaker 1>so sugar from palm trees. We have a beat sugar

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<v Speaker 1>at the house. Look at that. When I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>I like to cook, girl, you beat sugar. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you use it for you? It's like you on an

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Chopped right now? Yeah, well we use it.

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<v Speaker 1>I use it as a sugar suct to when I

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<v Speaker 1>do the homemade pizza you pass? Does it turn your

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<v Speaker 1>dough color like your dough? It's actually the bet sugar white.

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<v Speaker 1>What does the chef think about infotshers like cookwear and knives.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I don't like my counters in my

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen jumped up with a lot of stuff. I like

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<v Speaker 1>them clean. I always feel like in cooking, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>professionally or at home, I feel like your head feels

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<v Speaker 1>like your workstation looks like if stuff is just like

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere and there's no room to work and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel clean, you just feel really, you know, disorganized and

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<v Speaker 1>not focus in your head. So I don't like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff on my counters. I disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't like the I like the engages. Sometimes I disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree with the splattering of papers because that's my

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<v Speaker 1>office at my office home and get done. If I'm cooking,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's a mess all over the place. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just I didn't used to be that way before

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<v Speaker 1>I started cooking professionally, and now cooking professionally becomes and look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm literally sitting at a desk with my assistant and

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<v Speaker 1>I am, there's ship everywhere. She's looking at me like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the second coming of the devil. But there's stuff

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere right now. So I am. You know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>dying on the hill of being the most organized person,

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<v Speaker 1>but when I cook, I do need things organized. So

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<v Speaker 1>back to the gadgets. Um, you guys are dudes, and

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<v Speaker 1>dudes love gadgets like it's proven, it's science. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>in you, guys, it's in your d n A. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I have been so I am. I'm totally they're profiled

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<v Speaker 1>right there, Absolutely no gadget guy. Yeah, yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>correct with it. I just delayed reaction like I was

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<v Speaker 1>a baby hand on the stove. It's hot. I appreciate

0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you standing up for your gender not being profiled. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say there are obvious exceptions, but more than generally,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys really like gadgets, So anyway, you're not disproving

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<v Speaker 1>my point. Um there. I'm so I've been so anti

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<v Speaker 1>gadget for so long that really coming around to them

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<v Speaker 1>has been uh Like my first rice cooker I bought

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago, and I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this we can like cook perfect rice and not just

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<v Speaker 1>said it and walk away like that was my Like

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<v Speaker 1>my head exploded. I've been cooking for twenty years, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not generally a big gadget person. I will say

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<v Speaker 1>I got my butt caught in a competition, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't go super far into this because it's about to air.

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<v Speaker 1>Um where there was a very common gadget that I

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<v Speaker 1>had to use, and I really was lost, Like everyone

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<v Speaker 1>has one right now? Can we like say it? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm picking up what you're putting down. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite chicken is made this way? M Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>ye lost. I did not use it. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>be I it was to listen. I'll put everything in

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<v Speaker 1>the air for her. I've heard. I'm very close to

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<v Speaker 1>get anyone. Does your does your house smell like fried food?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I want to Nope, No, we're black, and

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<v Speaker 1>if it did, I wouldn't know. We may tell you

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<v Speaker 1>I worked as a private chef once and for a

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<v Speaker 1>very well known black family, and I'm made the stake

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<v Speaker 1>of frying chicken inside and oh I it was. I

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<v Speaker 1>nearly lost my job. You can let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>What you can do for black folks. You cannot mess

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<v Speaker 1>up no chicken. I didn't screw up the chicken. And

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<v Speaker 1>the house smelled like chicken. They were like outside, get

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<v Speaker 1>that outside. Yeah, we have to take a break and

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the morning thing, we gotta pay some bails checks. I

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<v Speaker 1>love cut to It and I love it even more

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<v Speaker 1>to It? On Instagram? What about Twitter? At cut to It? Facebook?

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<v Speaker 1>Cut to It feature in Steve Smith Sr? What about online?

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<v Speaker 1>And you can follow Louis at cut to It podcast

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe to this wherever you listen to podcasts. I got

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 1>all my answers questions. Um, yeah, I got all my

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:26.400
<v Speaker 1>questions answered. That's what I'm here for. A brother, cut

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<v Speaker 1>to a podcast dot com? Where are you from and

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 1>the place you call your hometown? Um, it's one of

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the hardest questions, we're gonn answer. Hometown is Boston. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been here on and off for the last twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's where It's what I absolutely considers home. Um, where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from. His harder. I grew up in a military family,

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 1>so I was born in Germany. It was Germany, Texas, Oklahoma, California, Greece,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that rotation all over again. UM, so everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere but Boston's home. Growing up as a milit verry kid,

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<v Speaker 1>you moved so many times. Yeah, if you can go

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<v Speaker 1>back in time, is there one place that you if

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<v Speaker 1>you had to choice, you would have chosen to stay

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>there and grow up. Oh what a good question. No

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<v Speaker 1>one's ever asked me that, thank you. Um, different places

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<v Speaker 1>for different things, I'll be honest. So what tell us girl, Greece? Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And just this year it was so lovely, um, living

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<v Speaker 1>there with such an immersive experience. UM. Culinarily, even before

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 1>I knew what culinarily even meant. UM, I understood what

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<v Speaker 1>hospitality and being really taken care of unders like meant

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:48.199
<v Speaker 1>for the first time. UM. And that's just culturally like,

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 1>that's what the Greeks are. UM. And it was just

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<v Speaker 1>the most stunning place physically, um for me specifically, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was lived in California for a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time. I moved from the South from Oklahoma to

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<v Speaker 1>California kind of somewhere right before high school. And had

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<v Speaker 1>I not done that, I think it would have taken

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<v Speaker 1>me a very but much. It would have taken me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more time to figure out who I am

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of me as a person, um, like my

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<v Speaker 1>own my sexuality, like all of the things that I

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 1>ultimately know as myself as a whole. It would have

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>taken a lot longer to get there because we were

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<v Speaker 1>really ensconced in like deep deep Southern sort of Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Not particularly and this is not saying religion is bad

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<v Speaker 1>at all, It was just very um. Our church was

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.439
<v Speaker 1>not the best place. Like there's a lot of Shenanigans

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 1>that went on, So getting out of that was really

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 1>good for me. So probably they're Greece or California, but

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately I left California on my own. Um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all of those things are It's such a good question,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think in terms of fantasy that the question

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<v Speaker 1>would be Greece. But I'm so grateful for the moves

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 1>that were made when they were made, and the choices

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<v Speaker 1>that I I made in my life, I just continue

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 1>to get what I needed along the way. So as

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>lovely as the question is, I wouldn't change it. So

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<v Speaker 1>what was Tiffany phasing like as a kid? Oh Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>Um sounds like precocious for sure. Um, singularly driven, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if there was something that I wanted to do, I

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<v Speaker 1>just it was a hundred miles an hour towards that

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>thing until I was good at it or I stopped.

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:34.120
<v Speaker 1>So like I was an All American cheerleader. Um, I

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>just you know, just NonStop. And then at some point

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>in high school that sort of stopped and I started

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>to I was in a kind of weird program in

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 1>high school, and I had a really influential teacher in

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>my life, and I started to learn how to really

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 1>think critically and understand you know, the arts and literature

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and the world around me and what things meant politically,

0:27:55.119 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and um, understanding how does see the lack of justice

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 1>inequality in the world. And that began to kind of

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>really change my life. Um. And I also became like

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>a serious troublemaker. Um. Just the worst jokes, practical jokes, ormaker.

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:15.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, like so this is a pretty good example.

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Um I was. I stopped cheerleading because I just, um,

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a particularly healthy environment that there was a year.

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 1>It was my soft junior year, um, and I was

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>an All American. I wasn't allowed to be on varsity.

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 1>The varsity cheerleaders came to us at the end of

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the year and said, Hey, we're gonna have a banquet.

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 1>You guys are gonna cook for us, set it up,

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>clean up, plan, all the things. And the team looked

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:42.479
<v Speaker 1>at me because I was allowed mouth and they were

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:44.959
<v Speaker 1>ready for me to be like absolutely not. And I

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>just said, yeah, you guys have worked really hard, let's

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>do it. So I made the world's largest batch of

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 1>ex Lax brownies for but I didn't know. But I

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't know is that there was faculty and teachers there.

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, I didn't know they were coming. So

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>like a Comedy Central movie, running down for spill all that,

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>spill it all. Well, Um, who got sick? Obviously, Um,

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>there was someone who had some sort of like vowel

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>issue anyway, and so it's like hauled into the principal's

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>office and the vice principal's office, and I, you know,

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I was told that I was attempted murder and I

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>tried to kill this woman. I mean they didn't go, yeah,

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to try and store. Well, I wasn't confessing to the crime,

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>so they were trying to give me. They trying to

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>treat her like a black person, that's what I call.

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>So they set me outside of the office and let

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>me see every one of the cheerleaders walking one by one,

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and they questioned everyone. Then you got to interrogate it. Yep.

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>So and I watched that. I knew who snitched. I

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>knew I still to this day know who snitched. Well, no,

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>but yes, it was a care It was a Karen

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>she has Yeah, I'm not gonna she knows almost dear.

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>She looked. She said, it's still an ex Brianie with

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>her name on it. Oh, yes, there is. Let her

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Let her walk in one of my restaurants. No, no, no, no,

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I would never do that in my restaurants, into her

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>house slowly. Yeah, she see her its own site. Bet there,

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>run it, run it. So with all that, what was

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the most challenging moment you overcame growing up? There was

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things I think. Um, I really think

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>it was just a culmination of constantly moving right and

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>like you're the new kid, and it's fun for a

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>very long time, and then all of a sudden you're not. Um,

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, when people are more concerned about what people

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>think of them. And it's high school and everyone's clicked

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>out and in their little safe spaces and there are

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>groups of people that feel good. So that was hard, um,

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>which is it was also good for me. I learned

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>how to really get outside of myself and and find

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>a way to allow people to let me in, to

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>try and be charming and funny and too essentially sell

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>myself as as someone who could be a good friend

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and who could be someone that you wanted to be around.

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>So I'm less good at that now as an adult,

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 1>but um, I was pretty good at it when I

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>was growing up. So I mean that was tough. My

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>parents divorced. That was tough. But that's all like just

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 1>normal stuff that I think happens in the life of kids. Now, um,

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, early adulthood. Top Chef was really hard, Like

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>the first season of Top Chef was just really really hard.

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>So you're a chef now and world we're now competitive

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>all of that stuff, But what did you for myself?

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Being an athlete, I always wanted to play football, always

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>want to play sports. And it sounds like for you

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>that was not initially what you inspire to be. So

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>grown up, what did you want to be? What did

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>you what did you desire to be? I wanted to

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 1>be a lawyer. Yeah, I wanted to be a lawyer.

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>The thought of cooking was not ever even a twinkle

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>in my eye, UM until much later. I had worked

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>in restaurant since I was fourteen, and just really from

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 1>making milkshakes to um washing dishes, to host a buser

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>server bartender. UM. But I'd never really thought about going

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>into the kitchen. It never really interested me until it

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>did so I, UM, Yeah, I went to college and

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I was a competitive debater and I wanted to be

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>an atte me. What was it about being attorney that

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>interest you? And then it was it before after you

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>almost got put beyond the wall? It was probably during

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and after. UM. I don't think one inspired the other.

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>For me, it was a sense of UM finding justice

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>in the world and being able to advocate for people

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>who did not necessarily have UM adequate representation and advocacy.

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>That was, um, as you know, appropriator excellent, as they should.

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>You're going to college, you decide that you know, maybe

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>you want to possibly look at being a lawyer, criminal

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>justice justice. Yeah, you dropped out of college, you went

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>to work as a bartender. Take us through that process. Well, Um,

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I never stopped working in restaurants even when I was

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>in college. It was always the way I was paying

0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>for things. Um, for my life. I didn't have a

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>come from a family that was able to pay for

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>college or float me in any way or support me. Um.

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>They loved me like crazy, but we didn't have any money.

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:10.879
<v Speaker 1>So um, anything that any decisions I made or things

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I wanted, including my education, was up to me. So

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I always worked in restaurants. Um. I was in school,

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and I was starting to enjoy school less and less. Um.

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.359
<v Speaker 1>There was a lack of creativity in in school. That

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:26.479
<v Speaker 1>and I'm also just not I'm not someone who sits

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.760
<v Speaker 1>still very well. Um, I'm just kind of a generally

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>like busy anti physically. Like physically, I'm like an anti person. Um.

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.280
<v Speaker 1>So school didn't fit that well for me. I loved

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>being challenged intellectually, but it was really just a lot

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>about sitting still that I hated. So UM, I started

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:48.720
<v Speaker 1>just spending more time at the restaurant and making more money,

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>and UM, I started dating my first girlfriend. And UM,

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I always thought I would go back to school, that

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna, like take a break. Parents don't

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 1>let your kids take break from school. They'll never go back. Um,

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 1>that's not true. People do. So I took a break

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and my first real relationship ended, and I was pretty gutted.

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 1>And my brother, I was living in Boston and he

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>was um at Emerson and he said, you know, you

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:14.800
<v Speaker 1>can always come live with me, and I was like, no,

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine. And then a couple of weeks later, I

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 1>packed a couple of Duffel bags and left to Boston

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>and started working. I opened a Ritz Carlton here, like

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 1>a new hotel, and I was really in over my head.

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>September eleven happened, and I was just really unhappy and

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what was out there. I knew that

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:37.399
<v Speaker 1>I was sort of managing a restaurant in a bar

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>was more than I wanted to do at the time.

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>So I just kind of, you know, it was new

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>to the city, and I wanted to take time in

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Bartend and just hang out and get to know the city.

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>And that did not make itself available to me. So

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I ended up taking a job as like a busser. Um.

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I remember the GM saying, really, do you want this job?

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Like you've been managing restaurants, and I was like, no,

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>just whatever. I just wanted to be at this specific

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 1>restaurant and really didn't even know why. Um. And I

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 1>ended up kind of from buster to runner to the

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>inside expeditor, which is a really interesting position. It's the

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>liaison between the kitchen and the dining room. It's the

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.320
<v Speaker 1>person that kind of calls the shots, tells the kitchen

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>when to cook things, when to fire things, sends things

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>out to tables. And I ended up doing that and

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 1>really watching the kitchen and not knowing what I was

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>even asking asked if I could learn a station, and

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:29.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, got laughed at. It was a professional kitchen,

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Like there was a bunch of like young guys running

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 1>around that were straight out of like the CIA and

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>New England Culinary School and like really great schools, and um,

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't know how to chop an onion.

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>So after like lots of begging and making fun of

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.919
<v Speaker 1>me laughing at me. My chef allowed me to start

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 1>on a station, and I know that he thought that

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I would quit. Um, and I wanted to. I was

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>really really terrible at it, like like really like just laughable,

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>like the basic things that I just had no idea.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh um. And again like that sort of competitive, maniacally

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.439
<v Speaker 1>focused person comes out of me where I either get

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 1>good or I get gone. And um, it took me

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>a while to get good. It took me probably a

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>couple of years. Um. But it was this thing that

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>I found myself no pun intended. It was hungry for

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>it all the time. It was endlessly fascinating, It was physical,

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 1>it was creative. Um, whatever level I could reach, there

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 1>was always one more to go, right, Like there was

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:37.280
<v Speaker 1>no like I've gotten to this place and I know everything.

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Like the more I knew, the more I understood, how

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 1>much more there is to know. And I still feel

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 1>that way about it. Let's talk cooking. Yeah, let's do it, okay,

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 1>she smiled to Yeah, So you said something and I'm

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 1>going to repeat some things and I see some I

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:59.959
<v Speaker 1>see some a pattern here. We're talking about you're talking

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>how you you know when Thanksgiving and your mom with

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the poultry and and and just all the little side items.

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 1>And you said, you know, you like to have your

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>station when you're cooking. Yep, a certain way. And you said,

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>but you you're either you have you don't like to

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>stay still. You always have to moving. So you're a

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 1>d A D D shish And she's also seems like

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of um O C d ish and

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 1>having everything she likes to be organized and everything in order.

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>The diagnosis is real. We don't just break down football.

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's clear, But let me lay down on this

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 1>couch quick, go ahead, listen. I'm I'm an older cat

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 1>in in this in this game, so my rates about

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:57.320
<v Speaker 1>three fifty and our if you're effective, it's a bargain.

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>So let's go. You're laying on a West All couch

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 1>is expensive. I know, right, Um, but you said some

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:09.840
<v Speaker 1>things I just picked up. So you add all of

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:14.440
<v Speaker 1>those issues that you are, and you add the competitiveness.

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 1>You add military moving around, always having to prove your point,

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:25.399
<v Speaker 1>always not settling for what someone else puts on you,

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>and like you said, always hungry. So when you decided

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and you woke up that day, you said, you know what,

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to put myself out there. I know, I

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know anything about station cooking, prepping, you know what

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:46.720
<v Speaker 1>it looks like. And I'm gonna if I fail. I failed,

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>But I'm a felt on my terms. What really happened

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:53.319
<v Speaker 1>when you woke up that day and you said, you

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>know what, damn, I'm cooking today. I'm going to attempt

0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to change my career in the food industry and to

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the point of where I like to call them the

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>nuts and bolts, the wheels of the engine that you know,

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times people want to be the engine

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:13.399
<v Speaker 1>or I want to be the headlights. But you can

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 1>have great spark plugs, you can have a full tank

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>of gas. But if those love nuts and those wheels

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>ain't on a car, what car are you going? What

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>are you driving? You ain't going nowhere? Never seen a

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 1>calm bricks stroll down the street? Now, yeah, um, they were.

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I can give you two very specific instances. Um, and

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:43.319
<v Speaker 1>you know you you learned to crawl before you walk,

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 1>walk before you run, run free jump, So I the

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 1>learning to crawl was tough. It was really um In

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>some ways, it was really humiliating because kitchens are inherently competitive.

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I was one a very few I was want of.

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you three women in the kitchen of

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the staff of probably like thirty. UM. And I didn't

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:10.720
<v Speaker 1>even really think about that at the time. I didn't

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:13.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't considering like the gender and melance. UM. I was

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:15.840
<v Speaker 1>just trying to stay alive. I didn't know what I

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 1>was doing. I had all these guys running around me

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>that were like not only you know, they were competitive,

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and they were in hindsight insecure. I didn't know that

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 1>at the time. And when people are insecure, they behaved

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 1>poorly towards each other and they put each other down

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 1>to try and find some sort of you know, bs

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 1>packing status. So UM, it was really tough. And I

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>was constantly a target of people's of some people's um

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:43.719
<v Speaker 1>you know iron and um bad behavior and and in

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>some ways I let that drive me as much as

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 1>it pissed me off. So I remember very specifically. You know,

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like I just started cooking and like I

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 1>had found this glove that fit perfectly. It wasn't like

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 1>a Cinderella story. I just I just combined Cinderella and

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 1>O J there. I don't know how it happened. UM,

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 1>I said, glove that fit, and then I said Cinderella story.

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure where that came from, so so um,

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>but I was like, like what she did? I did? Yeah,

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I almost quit, almost equitted myself. So um. There was

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:26.959
<v Speaker 1>a Saturday night that I just you know, it wasn't

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:29.319
<v Speaker 1>good at it and I would need help from like

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>my chef. And I was also working a really busy station.

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of pickups on my station. It

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 1>was monster and um my chef or so chefs would

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>have to help me out every night and bail me

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 1>out of the weeds and help me get my orders out.

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>And I remember there was a Saturday night I came

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 1>in like I was always coming in early, but I

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 1>came in super early, rearranged my station. I took um

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 1>tables and blocked myself in on my station where I

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>could not leave. So I had like all of what

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.040
<v Speaker 1>we call mes and plus, like all the things that

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>are prepped and ready to go to be able to

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>cook your food when you come to the restaurant. I

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 1>had stacks of mes and plaus. There's no way I

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>was running out of anything. I was. I had just

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 1>trouble shot for everything that had happened to me up

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>to that point that was like an impetus to me succeeding.

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 1>And that night just something clicked and I remember thinking like,

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 1>no matter what, I'm not going down and I'm not

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>going to need help. And you know it was it

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>was just that mental step of saying, I'm gonna do this.

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:26.799
<v Speaker 1>And there was no like skill set that I woke

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 1>up that day with that I didn't have the day before.

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>It was just the sheer will of not failing. I

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:37.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's about that time. Just take a little breather, good, good,

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:42.839
<v Speaker 1>getting down to do it good. Hey Gerard, why did

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:45.799
<v Speaker 1>you get that T shirt? You mean, oh yes, I

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:47.919
<v Speaker 1>got it from cut to a podcast dot com where

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 1>we have exclusive merchandise shout out to our guys at

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>seven oh four shot. But yeah, you can go on,

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:55.319
<v Speaker 1>buy you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 1>listen to podcasts. So then, when did you realize that

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>cooking could be a career. I was very attracted to

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 1>the idea of what I was watching around me as

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I was cooking. Um, I knew that I wouldn't have

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:15.760
<v Speaker 1>like a normal nine to five or kind of career.

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I knew I wouldn't have a normal life. I just

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 1>sort of inherently knew that. Um. I was attracted to

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the idea that I could be creative and work with

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 1>my hands in a really intelligent way that could make

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 1>people happy, and I could also work. And it's very

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>much like being on a sports team, like working a team.

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:42.279
<v Speaker 1>UM so it's it's a solo effort and it's also

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 1>in a team all at the same time. So, UM,

0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I think about two years into cooking, I looked up

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>and thought, okay, like this, this is really what I

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>want to do, um I mean, and I was obsessed

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 1>with it, Like I would go home. This is before

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's probably like a O L dial up, right.

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I did not have a compare at home and have

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:04.799
<v Speaker 1>the money. So I would go home at night and

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:07.359
<v Speaker 1>mostly people would go out drinking, and I would just

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 1>kept a notebook on me, and every term that I

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 1>heard that I didn't know, I would write down because

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't I was shamed into not asking, you know.

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I'd ask what this meant, and people be like me,

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So I stopped asking and started writing

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:23.760
<v Speaker 1>things down. And so I bought Larusku Astronomy, like the

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.320
<v Speaker 1>clearance version of it at my local bookstore, and I

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>would go home at night and I would just open

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 1>it up and start reading. One word after another would

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:33.080
<v Speaker 1>lead to something else. And so I was studying like

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 1>just fastidiously during that time. And you know, that was

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:38.799
<v Speaker 1>the idea that like the more I knew, the more

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 1>there was to know, and um, yeah, the world just

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 1>opened itself up to me. And then it really did

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:47.320
<v Speaker 1>fit like a glove. It became my life and started

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:50.719
<v Speaker 1>to give me all these things that I enjoyed in

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 1>my life, like satisfaction of others and um, creativity and

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:58.840
<v Speaker 1>being able to There's something about cooking as a profession,

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>especially when you're aligned hook you leave feeling either completely

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 1>defeated or completely accomplished like you have there's not a

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of middle ground. You don't leave going like that

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 1>service was kind of okay, Like you have a great service,

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 1>or you have one that's really painful. And the idea

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 1>of like stringing together multiple days and months of like

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 1>having great services became an addiction and an obsession. And

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 1>then you know, as I was able to do that,

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:25.759
<v Speaker 1>like working harder and harder stations, I got to a

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:28.359
<v Speaker 1>point where like I just you couldn't weed me like

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.839
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't you could put me anywhere and let me

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>learn the station for a week or whatever it might be,

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:35.800
<v Speaker 1>and there just was no You could not weed me.

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 1>You couldn't put me in the weeds. And that was

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:39.359
<v Speaker 1>like one of the most powerful feelings I've ever felt

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 1>in my life. Like I remember working on a station

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:44.919
<v Speaker 1>in Nantucket. It was the fish station. The guy next

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>to me, as foot as he was, couldn't cook on

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the hot app station. I had the entree pickups and

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I was helping him with three of the app pickups,

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and you know, as frustrating as it was, I still

0:46:56.760 --> 0:47:00.720
<v Speaker 1>could not be weeded. And I remember that that feeling

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:04.840
<v Speaker 1>was so deeply satisfying. That does mean I knew everything.

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 1>That meant like I had figured out how to line

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>my station up and how to work and cook things

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 1>in a way that was like strategic and organized and fast.

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Obviously your work life, it's cooking, but you can't necessarily

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:27.359
<v Speaker 1>check out when you get home, or can you do?

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, how do how do you take off the

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 1>chef how do you take off the chef hat? You know?

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Or do you just like you know what I'm cooking?

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>All day when I get home microwave. I mean, there's

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of hot dogs in my life. Um,

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I I'm not gonna lie a lot of hot dogs. Um,

0:47:47.880 --> 0:48:00.239
<v Speaker 1>hold on, hold mustard in it. Hold on, asshall man,

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 1>did you just say hot dogs in your life? Because

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I eat like a freaking child. It's awful. Like, oh,

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I've been needing to change my eating habits for years.

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:20.480
<v Speaker 1>You have, and you eat? You eat hot dogs and

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 1>chicken Nuggetscaroni cheese. You got the brother, yes, yes, um.

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:29.839
<v Speaker 1>And not only that, I'll put them in the mirk

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:34.120
<v Speaker 1>wave until they get triveled and blow up. Yeah. Um,

0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know. It's the worst. I know. Stop.

0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Are you serious? Yeah? Yeah, No. I'm really grateful when

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 1>people want to cook for me, and it happens rarely

0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:59.000
<v Speaker 1>because because I am a chef. Yeah, I don't want

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>to cook for you. It's like it's a problem. My

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend isn't is like one of the best pastry chefs

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 1>in the country. Like, girl, girlfriend, I'm talking about your ass.

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to cook for a world. You're gonna

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 1>red line my ships to watch me play? Who wants

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:24.319
<v Speaker 1>to watch his daughter? Me? Is six? My son do

0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 1>six play catch when the football players right in the

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:34.400
<v Speaker 1>front porch. In fairness, but you enjoy playing catch with

0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 1>your daughter, of course you do. It's a totally different thing.

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't have to be performative. I think it's

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 1>what we're saying. Do I performatively cook for myself? No?

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't. Nope, I'll do like project cooking, especially cooking

0:49:50.600 --> 0:50:02.919
<v Speaker 1>like during the pandemic, like me, because because that's like, yeah,

0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and sugar packets, syrups and sugar packets, butter and sugar packets.

0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:14.960
<v Speaker 1>That's what it used to be. Um. Project cooking is

0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:19.480
<v Speaker 1>like multi step, multi day cooking, right Like if I'm

0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 1>making CARNI test, it's like four or five days. Um,

0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:26.720
<v Speaker 1>if I'm making bread or doing something another slight flex

0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 1>just I am not a good baker. I'll say that

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm a really terrible baby. Actually does have a weakness

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I do. Oh god, I can't think it's true. It's

0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 1>too much brown sugar. Too much brown sugar. Yeah, I

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 1>don't really, Um, unless I've like told myself that I'm

0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:49.799
<v Speaker 1>going to eat healthy and that lasts for about three

0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and a half days, and then I'll cook at home

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:54.720
<v Speaker 1>for myself. So with that being said, so is cooking

0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:59.799
<v Speaker 1>an escape for you? It can be. It exists into

0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 1>are different worlds, right, So, like cooking professionally is completely

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 1>dialed in, focused under a clock to get it the

0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>best it could possibly be to our guests, the best

0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:12.040
<v Speaker 1>way we possibly can cooking at home is music and

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 1>a glass of wine. And you know, I still try

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 1>to be as efficient as possible and not make a

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>giant mess. But it's a different thing, Like it's you know,

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:21.759
<v Speaker 1>there are so many things that live under the same

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:24.759
<v Speaker 1>umbrella that really are like very different things. So when

0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:27.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm cooking at home and I am actually cooking at home,

0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:31.400
<v Speaker 1>it's super enjoyable to me. I really, I still love it, um,

0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I always will um. But it's just an entirely different vibe,

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 1>totally different feeling from cooking at work. So then what

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:45.360
<v Speaker 1>is your escape? What's your meat time? Oh lord, um,

0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:46.920
<v Speaker 1>you really think I would have found it over the

0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:55.920
<v Speaker 1>past year interview? Yeah, Um, when working out, Like, it's

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 1>definitely meantime, Like I go to just a different place

0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:01.640
<v Speaker 1>in my head where I'm able to um, kind of

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:04.640
<v Speaker 1>get to a point where I'm not thinking that much. Um,

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:07.319
<v Speaker 1>that's when I know, like, whatever it is class i'm

0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:09.759
<v Speaker 1>taking or workout is not working. If I'm like in

0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 1>it and I'm super thinking about work, I know that

0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:15.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not. I'm not ready to be Um. I spend

0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:17.759
<v Speaker 1>a good amount of time in Cape cod like on

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the ocean. I go clamming. That's not a euphemism. I

0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:24.880
<v Speaker 1>literally dig for clams in the ocean. Um, how do you?

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:33.400
<v Speaker 1>How do you dig for go out? You you probably

0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 1>google me have it. I'm five nine with tattoos. Brothers.

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:41.839
<v Speaker 1>You should next time you're out, let me know, take

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you clamming. Um. So I'm gonna take you up on that. No,

0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:49.799
<v Speaker 1>you should. It's the most fun. Okay, here's what what's

0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:53.400
<v Speaker 1>my clothes? Because a Jordan's so I'm not I'm not

0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:57.799
<v Speaker 1>literally in ripped jeans and Jordan's right now. So for

0:52:57.880 --> 0:53:03.280
<v Speaker 1>the culture, here we go. Got my ones on, um solis,

0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 1>but what's like what is clamming? Though? Like I don't

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm being funny, but I absolutely have no idea

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:13.640
<v Speaker 1>how to claim it is? Um, We'll put you in

0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:16.640
<v Speaker 1>like full waiters. So like you know, we call him

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:19.919
<v Speaker 1>wellies here like essentially like rain boots, like heavy duty

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 1>rain boots and like some sort of waterproof pant or

0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:26.440
<v Speaker 1>overall kind of thing um, and usually just a sweatshirt.

0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:29.760
<v Speaker 1>And then depending on how cold it is, go out

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:33.240
<v Speaker 1>at low tide. So essentially like the ocean has completely

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:36.480
<v Speaker 1>receded like four as far as the eye can see,

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:38.840
<v Speaker 1>like miles out in the Myrtle Beach. So I'm I

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 1>know where I know the tide change in exactly. So

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 1>go out about an hour before low tide and then

0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:48.799
<v Speaker 1>into low tide. Um. I usually walk about a mile

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and a mile and a half out, um, and I

0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:52.680
<v Speaker 1>have a rake with me and a bucket, and I

0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:56.200
<v Speaker 1>just start digging. And if you find a couple together,

0:53:56.520 --> 0:53:58.919
<v Speaker 1>you have to be a certain size. Um, you usually

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<v Speaker 1>find a pretty good patch. Then you just keep going

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<v Speaker 1>and you keep digging until you have, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the state a lotted amount of clams that you can have. Wow, say,

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<v Speaker 1>I never know, Yeah, yeah, it's um. You know there's

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<v Speaker 1>oysters out there, sometimes there's base gallops. So but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's you and the ocean and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it just connects you. So for me, it's it connects

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<v Speaker 1>me so deeply to like time and place where I

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<v Speaker 1>am and how we get our food and um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really and it's gorgeous. It's just beautiful to stand out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you. So I'm just thinking, do you do any

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<v Speaker 1>gardening or anything? I do? I have a garden um in.

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<v Speaker 1>I do mostly things that I know that I will use.

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<v Speaker 1>A ton of Gardening for me sort of started um

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<v Speaker 1>and I've done some farming projects, but for personally, gardening

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<v Speaker 1>for me started with like the annoyance. I use a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of herbs in my cooking, whether it's home or

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's professional like, but when I'm home, I get

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<v Speaker 1>really irritated at paying like two for a bunch of herbs.

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<v Speaker 1>It just makes me crazy. So I grow a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of herbs. I grow things that I know that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to use. Tomatoes, herbs, chilies, those really are like

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of the crux of the three things that

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<v Speaker 1>I grow at home. My wife picked up gardening. She

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<v Speaker 1>she does uh which I really wasn't into um on

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<v Speaker 1>the garden, but she got me hooked on. We do turkey, bacon,

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<v Speaker 1>turkey um ham and she does rainbow chart. I love

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<v Speaker 1>rainbow chart. So it's like a really healthy version of greens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's dynamic. So with all the demands from you running

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<v Speaker 1>a restaurant, creating a museum, the concept managing people. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you manage your mental health? It's a great question. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The exceedingly honest answer right now is I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm doing it very well. Apprecial's been honest. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I go. I think there's this idea that

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<v Speaker 1>mental health is like and managing it is a place,

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<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate it is asking because it's such an

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<v Speaker 1>important topic. I feel like the perception is managing mental

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<v Speaker 1>health is like fixing a broken leg, right, like, um

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<v Speaker 1>that once you go through all the work to do

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<v Speaker 1>it and you get there, it's set. You're done, You're

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<v Speaker 1>running and walking like you used to and it's fine. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not how mental health works at all. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>constant process. And um, you know, much like rehabbing something,

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<v Speaker 1>if you stop that rehab process, whether it's not eating

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<v Speaker 1>well or drinking too much, or sleeping not sleeping enough

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<v Speaker 1>for um whatever, those those pillars are that keep you healthy. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very hard to maintain really positive and strong mental health.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have seven restaurants. We have closed all but

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. Um, to sort of hang on and

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<v Speaker 1>hibernate so we can open again. Um, and right now

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<v Speaker 1>we are at the point where we're looking to reopen

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<v Speaker 1>all of them, and you know, opening six restaurants at

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<v Speaker 1>one time is daunting, and so that's you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that's on my mind a lot right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that, um until those things are done. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really important for me to find ways to eat healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>work out, take care of myself, drink less, drink lots

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<v Speaker 1>of water, like and doing those things along the way

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<v Speaker 1>will be helpful in this journey. It is my habit

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<v Speaker 1>always to like hold my breath and try and swim

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<v Speaker 1>underwater and not treat myself well until I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I can come up for air when it's all over.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, that's habits that I developed in my

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<v Speaker 1>twenties and early thirties that no longer serve me in

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<v Speaker 1>my forties. So, um, when I'm managing it well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in therapy, I'm working out, I'm eating well, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not drinking. Tiffany, we really appreciate your it's been you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>This really was fun. Thank youre really I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>And watching a person you know, I know for myself

0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:09.600
<v Speaker 1>watching people on TV. There can't you know you you

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<v Speaker 1>flip the coin heads. They could be a dirt bag Tails,

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<v Speaker 1>they could be a genuinely awesome person, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, I gotta go with Tails. You've been

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<v Speaker 1>a genuine awesome person and love watching what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>But now knowing the individual that I'm seeing John work,

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<v Speaker 1>it just makes me want to just go back and

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<v Speaker 1>go back and look at the shows and see now

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<v Speaker 1>from what perspective you're coming from. So thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity of Oh my gosh, that was a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a compliment. You guys. This has been really really

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<v Speaker 1>fun and interesting and the questions have been so so good,

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys are really fun and easy to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to and to thank you for that. We appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for your time. Um and UM, I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>East Coast and I love cooking. Um, I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>great cook, but I'm cooking well enough that I've tricked

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<v Speaker 1>one beautiful woman into uh enjoying my cooking, and then uh,

0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I brainwashed the other four my kids. So that's good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all you need, all I need. But I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it and appreciate your time, so you know, hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we'll run back into each other. But I would love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love that. You are a unique person, you

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<v Speaker 1>are well worth it, you are competent, and most of all,

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