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Speaker 1: We are all different in our own manners. Right, Mexican

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Speaker 2: From Futro Media and PRX, it's Latino USA. I'm Maria

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Speaker 2: ino Coosa. Today, episode two of our new series Ombre

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Speaker 2: Understanding Latino Men, we sit down with two young Latino

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Speaker 2: voters with very similar backgrounds but opposite political views. Dear listener.

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Speaker 2: Last month we launched a new series it's called Ombre

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Speaker 2: Understanding Latino Men, and we did this after seeing conversations

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Speaker 2: happening about Latino men who essentially shifted right in the

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Speaker 2: last presidential election, but without having a lot of leatso

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Speaker 2: men participating in those conversations. We hear at Latino USA

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Speaker 2: want to understand what motivated Latino men to vote more

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Speaker 2: Republican this time around. We also want to understand what

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Speaker 2: informed the Latino men who stayed with the Democratic Party. Today,

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Speaker 2: we're going to hear from two Ombris Latinos, Alejandro Flores

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Speaker 2: and Alexis Uskanga. They're both Mexican American, both from Texas,

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Speaker 2: and both from similar socioeconomic backgrounds. Alexis is twenty one

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Alejandro is thirty one years old from Dallas and he

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Speaker 2: this time for presidential candidate Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. As all.

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Speaker 2: So, as we have said multiple times on this show,

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Speaker 2: Latinos are not a monolith, and within the Latino community

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Speaker 2: there are complexities. For example, Mexican Americans still lean more

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Speaker 2: So we're going to unpack all of this in our

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Speaker 2: conversation of ombre understanding Latino man. Let's get to it.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to start with you, Alexis. Just tell

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, my name is Alexiskanga. I am from

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's adorable, that's just the door. And Alexis, just

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Speaker 2: so we're clear, you ended up voting for the first

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Speaker 2: And Alejandro, tell us a little bit about yourself.

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Speaker 3: I grew up in the city of Dallas.

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Speaker 4: I've been politically active since the first Obama administration. My family, well,

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Speaker 4: we didn't really embrace much of our culture, being a

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Speaker 4: we still observed some of the traditions, mostly the religious stuff.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like I've recently taken the opportunity to

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Speaker 3: I have to feel like it's been surpassed for a

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Speaker 2: And Alejandro, you voted for Kamala Harris in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: So now let's get into the politics of it. Can

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess I could talk him back to I

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Speaker 4: we're not criminals, despite having allegedly broken any laws that

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Speaker 1: I would say, of course, President Trump's first appearance as

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Speaker 2: So that's really interesting. You were like, I can't stand Trump.

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Speaker 3: I was very surprised.

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Speaker 1: Right, of course, I've always been led to believe that

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Speaker 2: I want to really understand, very specifically how your Mexican

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Speaker 2: and then becoming a man, how that shaped your political leanings.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to start with you, Alejandro. Do you

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Speaker 4: The concept of a Latino man was mostly shaped by

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Speaker 1: I would also agree that was just like my dad.

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Speaker 1: He's also keeps a lot to himself. He's very hardworking,

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Speaker 1: something that really inspired me because he would always teach

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Speaker 1: I would see that my friends their parents would always

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Speaker 2: That's so Mexican, look it is. Yeah, yeah, okay, So Alejandro,

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Speaker 2: what were the issues that were most kind of personal

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Speaker 4: Since I first started voting at age nineteen, I've always

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Speaker 2: Can you tell me your top three issues that we're like,

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Speaker 3: So, first of all, healthcare.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So one of the main issues has been for

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Speaker 1: the economy. Immigration is another one. We were personally impacted

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Speaker 2: Coming up on Latino USA, we get into how the

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Speaker 4: I kind of fell off of religion sometime around high school.

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Speaker 1: I agree with him going after criminals, that's the number

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll say this, my family this time around for

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Speaker 1: I guess just not all the same. We are all

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Speaker 2: Alejandro, what do you think that we need to know

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think similar to what Alexis said, I would

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Speaker 4: Well, first and foremost, I would say that no matter

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Speaker 1: I hope that he follows through in all of his

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Speaker 2: Alexis and Alejandro, thank you so much for joining me

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