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Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

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Speaker 1: in the strated here of normalcy. Here's last off here

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Speaker 1: on a Monday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live as the show three hours of brilliance set

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Speaker 1: and ladies and germs, we hope you enjoyed your Thanksgiving. Steve,

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Speaker 1: you have any leftovers left? We're pretty we're almost tabbed out.

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Speaker 1: And I gotta say the law of diminishing returns is

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Speaker 1: a couple of different meals though that we're big, not

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Speaker 1: We've been plowing through that. But we had guests that

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think today's pretty much it, although there

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Speaker 1: think for everybody with their Thanksgiving leftovers. So hopefully most

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Speaker 1: been great for sure. Plenty of football to watch over

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Speaker 1: the weekend without any nerves being a part of the

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Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's life? Ken? Are you there? I

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Speaker 1: try to play mistake free football. I watched that game

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Speaker 1: between the Patriots and the Titans, and this team, this team,

427
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Speaker 1: the Patriot team is very scarily much like the Patriots

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Speaker 1: of old, with the young Brady Patriots team, with this

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Speaker 1: young Matt Feller, very opportunistic turnovers in the touchdown very difficult.

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Speaker 1: This is the team being led by the defense and

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Speaker 1: the leadership of that defense. We need to be bad

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Speaker 1: to play a game, otherwise we may need to divisions

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Speaker 1: to show up for sure. I just want to offer

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Speaker 1: that and listen to you guys time and according it

435
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Speaker 1: all right, thanks for the call. Can't appreciate it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I was encouraged seeing the Titans run all

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Speaker 1: over them. I mean big runs, car Steve. I mean

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Speaker 1: they let big runs out of the gate, big runs. Um.

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Speaker 1: They just they survived because they forced turnovers. That's how

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Speaker 1: they won the game. But two hundred and seventy yards

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Speaker 1: against Hello, I mean, that's that's a fat number that

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Speaker 1: if you can do that and not turn it over,

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Speaker 1: they can't beat you. No, not if you do that.

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Speaker 1: They're saying the Bills are going to go out and

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Speaker 1: do that. But there might be some run schemes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna try to correct all of that this week.

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Speaker 1: No one, they're probably gonna see more of it. The

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Speaker 1: Bills should test them on some of that scheme. I

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Speaker 1: felt bad. Look, Mike Vrabel isn't my favorite guy. I

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Speaker 1: actually felt bad for him yesterday because after the game,

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Speaker 1: he's like, I just really want to tip my hat

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Speaker 1: to my coordinators. I thought their game plan was awesome

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Speaker 1: and we executed a lot of it really really well.

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Speaker 1: So it really hurts that I win this football game.

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Speaker 1: Because he knew turnovers cost them. They don't turn the

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Speaker 1: ball over, they beat them. And the thing is, he

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Speaker 1: turn it over nine thousand times. You run out of

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Speaker 1: guys to bench, you know. I mean, you just there's

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Speaker 1: nobody else not to put in. It's not like you

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Speaker 1: can go out and do what Sean McDermott did with

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Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie. I mean you had pretty soon you got

462
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Speaker 1: defensive linemen out there returning punts. There's nobody else left.

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Speaker 1: That's not ideal. So I mean when that it starts,

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Speaker 1: and I've been part of teams like that, one of

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Speaker 1: them in a Super Bowl where you just couldn't stop

466
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Speaker 1: turning the football over. It's just one guy after the other,

467
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Speaker 1: and it's just it's like something in the water. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's right. When you run the ball as effectively as

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Speaker 1: they were able to yesterday with so many different guys,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Tannehill had twenty four then he had two

471
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Speaker 1: Hillard and Foreman. You know, both those guys have a hundo.

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Speaker 1: I mean, got lee, you got me? What do we do? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I know, I don't know. I mean that's that Hannah

474
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Speaker 1: Hill was eleven ten. It was eleven of twenty one

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Speaker 1: for ninety three yards. You want to know what? What

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Speaker 1: did it to him? That's it? I get it. Twenty

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Speaker 1: one twenty one attempts. That's pretty good because you're running

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Speaker 1: it effectively in it. But you're eleven of them with

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Speaker 1: a running game like that, you stink. Yeah, and one

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Speaker 1: of those past attempts went to the other team in

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Speaker 1: the end zone. You're running the ball that effectively, You're

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Speaker 1: you can't play action out of that. You can't like well,

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Speaker 1: I guess this too. I mean a j Brown out,

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones out, you know, Derrick Henry out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so I gets he's thrown to the practice squad. And

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Speaker 1: and to me, it's it's a little bit reminiscent. You

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Speaker 1: get out there, and there's certain times not not not

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Speaker 1: so much in the Tennessee uh New England game, but

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Speaker 1: certainly in the Buffalo Saints game on Thursday. The Saints,

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Speaker 1: it looked for them their roster looked like literally the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter of a preseason game. That's who the Bills

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Speaker 1: were running it up on. And I get it. You

493
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Speaker 1: gotta lump them up, and they did it. And they

494
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Speaker 1: the Bills took their foot off the gas. I mean,

495
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: they were just they were coasting. Troubisky's finishing the game up.

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Speaker 1: They get all that, but man oh man, that's exactly

497
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Speaker 1: what that game looked like. It was so bad. And

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Speaker 1: that's where Tennessee's sitting there going, we got all these

499
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Speaker 1: tremendous Tennessee is. You know, think about where they're sitting.

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Speaker 1: Whoever goes and I don't think it's gonna be Kent Tennessee,

501
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Speaker 1: but whoever goes to the super Bowl for the AFC,

502
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Speaker 1: Tennessee's gotta be sitting there going we beat that team. Yep,

503
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Speaker 1: we beat that team. You know, yep, I know it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Joe in North Collins next, Joe,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for us here on one Bills Live. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. I got a couple of

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Speaker 1: items here. They've been bothering me for a while this year.

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Speaker 1: My first there's a question, though, do you guys know statistically,

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Speaker 1: how many penalties are there in a college game versus

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Speaker 1: a pro game. I watched a little bit of college

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Speaker 1: over the weekend there, and it was very entertaining, a

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Speaker 1: lot of points, a lot of good plays, and the

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Speaker 1: reps seem to, for the most part, keep their yellow

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Speaker 1: flags in their pocket. And it's it is. It's very

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Speaker 1: frustrating watching pro games now because outcomes are being tarnished

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Speaker 1: a little bit by some really phantom calls. And I'll

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Speaker 1: get to my second part here and then I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: listen up on your response. The second is offensive holding.

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Speaker 1: I think defensive linemen have learned part of their repertoire

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Speaker 1: now rushing the quarterback is when they're tied up, fall down,

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Speaker 1: fall down, sideways, Because what's an offensive lineman due he's

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Speaker 1: got you tied up, he reaches out his hands around you,

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Speaker 1: you fall down, he follows you. Now his hands are

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Speaker 1: on you while you're falling down, and it looks like

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Speaker 1: a holding call. I've seen it time and time again.

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Speaker 1: The defensive linemen fall down and if he just stored up,

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Speaker 1: there's no holding because the offensive lineman's are you know,

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Speaker 1: his hands are within the shoulders. But as soon as

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Speaker 1: he falls down, he reaches out and there goes to play.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to hang up and listen to your car.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, guys, great show. Thanks Thanks Joe. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a couple of things. When I don't know the disparity

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Speaker 1: of penalties from college to pro, I will say this though,

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Speaker 1: it's not unusual for a college game, particularly like a

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame game or somebody, to take four hours to play.

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Speaker 1: And it's not all about penalties or anything. A lot

537
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Speaker 1: of it's about commercial breaks and all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: The college game is not as legislated that way as

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Speaker 1: the NFL game is now. And I get it to

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Speaker 1: everybody's been this has been a bad year for officiating.

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Speaker 1: We can say that maybe every year everybody's got something.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, and I will always say, and

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Speaker 1: I've said it constantly throughout this season, if they call

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Speaker 1: it the same every game, consistently, every penalty, none of

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Speaker 1: us would care how many penalties there were, because we'd

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Speaker 1: all know, yeah, that was a penalty there and should

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Speaker 1: be a penalty here, and they'll call it and the

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Speaker 1: players will get that as well. And as for guys

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Speaker 1: D Lineman drawing penalties, that's always been done. You may

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Speaker 1: be noticing it more now. Their hands. Yeah, they're they're rowing,

551
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: they're failing around, they're like gesturing to the official to

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Speaker 1: call what's being done to them. I get that that

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Speaker 1: happens too. Guys have always had tricks of the trade

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Speaker 1: of drawing penalties and that kind of thing. They've also

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Speaker 1: got tricks of how to make an offensive lineman look bad.

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Speaker 1: So um that goes that's never gonna go away. Um.

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Speaker 1: And as easy as you might think it is to

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Speaker 1: draw a holding penalty by falling down, and it's not

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Speaker 1: that easy. But you're right, there are guys who can

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Speaker 1: get away with that and occasionally do draw a penalty

561
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Speaker 1: that's cheap. That'll that'll never change. But for the officiating

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Speaker 1: the NFL, it's probably overfficiated. Yeah, maybe it's a little overafficiated.

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Speaker 1: But there are a lot more rules in the NFL

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Speaker 1: that have to be looked, have to be watched out

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Speaker 1: for and put into the rule book. Because pros are

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Speaker 1: better than college kids and they can get it, they

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Speaker 1: can skirt. They had to. They put a lot, a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of the rules that the NFL

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Speaker 1: adjust to every They change the rules every year, and

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00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: a lot of them are just tweaks this that this

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Speaker 1: is now going to be a penalty. This is not

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Speaker 1: going to be a penalty because pros spend a lot

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Speaker 1: of time thinking about what they can get away with

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Speaker 1: looking for loophole's. College kids are just hoping they line upright,

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Speaker 1: So that makes for a different game. Sometimes that college

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Speaker 1: game is really really great and sometimes it's not so great.

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Speaker 1: Break time for us here more. Your phone calls when

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Speaker 1: we return, so if you're holding an eight, three h

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Speaker 1: five fifty, stay there, we will get to you. Also,

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Speaker 1: coming up second hour of the program, Eric Wood will

581
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Speaker 1: give us his take on the week that was not

582
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Speaker 1: only the Bills Saints game, but the upcoming Patriots game

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Speaker 1: as well. And then third hour of the show, former

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Speaker 1: Patriots linebacker Matt Chatham and current NFL analyst will join

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Speaker 1: the show as we begin our Patriots preview. It's One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Collat of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right back, You're on One Bills Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Chaster with you on a Monday, and we are

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Speaker 1: taking a look at a very jumbled AFC conference rates.

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Speaker 1: It might be even more tightly packed than it was

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Speaker 1: two or three weeks ago, with some teams dropping some

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Speaker 1: here in the AFC. So we'll dice it up with

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Speaker 1: you from noon to three. Got Eric Wood coming up

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Speaker 1: in the second hour of the show, but for now,

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Speaker 1: it's your phone calls at eight oh three fifty one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two, five fifty and we

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Speaker 1: lead off this segment with Bob and Rochester. Bob, what

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Speaker 1: do you have for us? You're on one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call, love the show. Thanks. I

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Speaker 1: followed the Bill for fifty five years. I have given

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Speaker 1: this careful reflection. But here's the thing that bothers me

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Speaker 1: over all those years, and maybe I'm wrong. You can

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Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong. Every time Buffalo would play

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Speaker 1: against a really top team, including Super Bowls, including playoff games,

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Speaker 1: most of the time when I watched the game, are

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Speaker 1: offensive and defensive lines do not measure up to the opponent.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know why. And it's the same thing

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Speaker 1: this year. Secondly, I'd like to use a little imagination here.

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Speaker 1: You probably have a really good red zone threat and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't even play on offense. You know who it is,

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Speaker 1: so why not try him in the red zone as

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Speaker 1: a tight end or a wide receiver or whatever. Seems

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Speaker 1: to me the worst thing that can happen is he

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Speaker 1: doesn't do well and then you don't use him anymore.

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Speaker 1: And lastly, we got a running back. I think his

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Speaker 1: last name is Williams. I hope I'm right. I saw

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Speaker 1: him play once. I don't even remember when, maybe in preseason.

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Speaker 1: He looked awesome, and he doesn't even earn a spot

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Speaker 1: to try him out with the with the running backs

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Speaker 1: that we have that are frankly not that good except Roprita.

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Speaker 1: I'll hang up and listen to your comments. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: no problem. It's interesting that you mentioned Rousseau. The only

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Speaker 1: reason I say that is because in high school he

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Speaker 1: was a wide receiver. He was a wide receiver in

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Speaker 1: high school, nine feet tall. Yeah. The other guys, Antonio Williams,

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Speaker 1: I think you're an He's a guy that that lit

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Speaker 1: up the Dolph Dolphins last year Week seventeen, So you

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Speaker 1: haven't played seen him play in a real regular season game,

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Speaker 1: and he played extremely well for the Bills in that win.

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Speaker 1: So that game was already over, And you're right, every

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Speaker 1: time if you get into a big game, and let's

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Speaker 1: face it, the Bills have never won a Super Bowl. Um,

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Speaker 1: they've won some big games, but in those a lot

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Speaker 1: of those games, if you your offensive or defensive line

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Speaker 1: does not show up, or does it gets manhandled by

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Speaker 1: another really good teams defensive line or offensive line, it

638
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: shows up. I'll say this, the Bills have won a

639
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Speaker 1: lot of big games because their offensive defensive line did

640
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: hold up. You know they want an AFC championship. They

641
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: won four AFC Championship games in a row. They've appeared

642
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: in five over seven years and played very well up front.

643
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: The games, the big time divisional games that I was

644
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: a part of against the Miami Dolphins, we were talking

645
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Speaker 1: about a pregame where this game on Monday night reminds

646
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Speaker 1: me of those games we used to have against Don

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Speaker 1: Shula and Dan Marino with Jim Kelly and Marv Levy,

648
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: two big, really good football teams gonna go at it

649
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: for the division title. You gotta play twice, and these

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00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: games are huge. That's the kind of game you're in

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Speaker 1: this week. You are right in your assessment that when

652
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Speaker 1: you lose a game, a lot of times it's because

653
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: of the battle up front. But that's not the only

654
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: reason this franchise is lost games over the years. I mean,

655
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: there's been bad quarterback play, bad wide receiver play, coaching, turnover,

656
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: untimely turnover, a stupid penalty, all kinds of whatever. You

657
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: take your pick, but you're right, there have been enough

658
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: games to go around where you get manhandled and play

659
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Speaker 1: physical that you can go back and remember it. But

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Speaker 1: to say that's every game, I get it feels like

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00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: that sometimes. But when you start focusing on only one

662
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: problem and only one aspect of a football team, you

663
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: can go back and nitpick a lot. But over the years,

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Speaker 1: you don't have a seventeen year drought because you never

665
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Speaker 1: have a good offensive line or never have a good

666
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Speaker 1: defensive line. There's a lot of things in that the

667
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: Bills were tops in the league and running the football.

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00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: You're a pretty good offensive line to do that. When

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Speaker 1: Greg Roland was the coordinator here, you know, first year

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Speaker 1: of Rex Ryan's coaching tenure, they were the number one

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Speaker 1: the league run the football. Um, So it doesn't, as

672
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: Steve said, it doesn't just come down to the lines.

673
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: There's a whole it's a lot of other things. It's

674
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: baked into it. It's a big factor. Bob, You're right,

675
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: I mean not they only see I see what you see.

676
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Speaker 1: And we talked about that this year. That's been one

677
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 1: of their buggaboos this year. Most of that has been

678
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, Um, not only have they faced some

679
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: really good lines, offensive lines and defensive lines, but they've

680
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Speaker 1: also they haven't been playing full strength ever, hardly at all,

681
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: two games, three games, whatever. So let's get our mind

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00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: around that and let's see if they can play. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the frustrating part about it, because everybody, You're right,

684
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Speaker 1: they are. They are getting handled once in a while

685
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: in these games and it shows up on the scoreboard.

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Speaker 1: But you know, let's see if we can go with

687
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Speaker 1: our number one guys and end let's get a clearer,

688
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Speaker 1: more clear evaluation. Back to the phones into Mike and Pa. Mike,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for us here on one Bill's life.

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Speaker 1: Hello Stephen Chris Eve, you got my vote again. I

691
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: hope you get the Hall of Fame Uh this year?

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Speaker 1: Thanks man, appreciate it. Yep, no problem. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: talk about the AFC playoff deal. Uh. I think it's

694
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Speaker 1: wide open. Every team in the AFC seems to be inconsistent.

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Speaker 1: You got the Titans that were hot, you got the

696
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Speaker 1: Bills that were hot, you got and now the Patriots

697
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: are hot. At I personally think we can beat the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: They really haven't played anybody like we. We haven't really

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Speaker 1: played anybody other than Kansas City. But they're struggling too.

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Speaker 1: But I just think it's wide open right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean first seed. Yeah, I mean Baltimore is there

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Speaker 1: based on winning percentage right now at eight and three,

703
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: and then New England and Tennessee right behind him at

704
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: eight and four, and then Kansas City's gotten hot again.

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Speaker 1: They won four straight going into their by this past weekend,

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Speaker 1: and they've got a big division game come up this weekend.

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Speaker 1: They've got to they got to play the Broncos on

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football, and the Broncos just beat the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's a jumbled mess to put it,

710
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Speaker 1: frank Frankly, you could argue, and Steve's mentioned this. You know,

711
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Speaker 1: you've got thirteen teams in the conference with at least

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Speaker 1: five victories. I think it's about eleven with six, So

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Speaker 1: everybody's can argue they're in the thick of it with

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Speaker 1: six games to play. That's the other thing. It's not

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Speaker 1: eleven and twelve games played with five and four to

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Speaker 1: play respectively. You had some teams with six games left,

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00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: five games left even. There's a lot of chance to

718
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: still have a giant impact on this conference race, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of these teams are gonna have to play

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Speaker 1: each other, I mean knocking each other off. The Bills

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00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: only have three conference games remaining, two against the Patriots

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Speaker 1: and the season finale against the Jets. They're five and

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Speaker 1: four in the conference right now. You know, you'll hope

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Speaker 1: they win all of those and finish you know, eight

725
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: and four in the conference. But that means sweep in

726
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Speaker 1: New England, which will be easier said than done now

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Speaker 1: that New England's won six in a row. Steve, I

728
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Speaker 1: want to know this from you, though, the law of

729
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: averages in this league? Right? The Titans, what did they

730
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Speaker 1: win five six in a row and then they absolutely

731
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: puke on their shoes yesterday? You know, four turnovers? Right,

732
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Speaker 1: play a stinker of a game. Now the Patriots have

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Speaker 1: won six in a row, isn't it time for them

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Speaker 1: to play a stinker of a game. They never do

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Speaker 1: that though, that's not that hasn't been something that they've

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Speaker 1: they've done over the years. They have always played mostly

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Speaker 1: mistake free football. I mean, you can go back now,

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Speaker 1: think about this. Last year, the Bills walk into New

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Speaker 1: England on a Monday night and they hung thirty nine.

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Speaker 1: They beat him thirty eight to nine, and I thought

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Speaker 1: was a shocker because they barely got out of Buffalo

742
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Speaker 1: with I mean, they barely beat him the first game

743
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: last year with the with the Justin zimmer strip of

744
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: Cam Newton and that saved nice the game. But man

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00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: oh man, they came back later in the year and

746
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: they lumped those guys up, played mistake free aggressive. But

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00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: I'll say this, this Patriot defense is way different than

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00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: the defense they played last year. It is way different,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be really difficult to hang thirty eight

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00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: points on this bunch. It's gonna be a much different

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00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: football game. But I do think there's a number of

752
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: guys on this team in Buffalo that have been here

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00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: for the whatever duration they've been here where they don't

754
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: have all the baggage that we have as fans, like

755
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: we've been watching this Patriot team lump the Bills up

756
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: for twenty years. The guys on this squad really don't

757
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: have that history, most of them, and I think that

758
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: helps them going there and treat these guys with some respect,

759
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: but without all that stuff hanging out in the back

760
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: of your mind thinking, Okay, where's this going to go south? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: break time for us here morerir phone calls next and

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Speaker 1: Eric Wood coming up in the second hour of the program.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned here on one Bills Live presented by Kalada Health.

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Speaker 1: this season, which is a new single season club record

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Speaker 1: by a tight end, breaking the old mark of six

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Speaker 1: are fifth most in a career by a Bills tight end.

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Speaker 1: The Bills are ten and oh when Dawson Knox scores

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Speaker 1: a touch down, how about that? That's pretty good? That's

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Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phone to victory. I got

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Speaker 1: some people waiting patiently there. And next up here is

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Speaker 1: Tony in Buffalo. Tony, what do you have for us?

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Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's Live. Hey, Steve Ay, Chris, how

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00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: you guys doing well? Um? So I just had a

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Speaker 1: quick little thought here. Um, I want to get what

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Speaker 1: you guys think on it. So I kind of felt

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Speaker 1: like for the last couple of years, we've you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of went for more of a I guess the

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Speaker 1: nest type line because we had such a good year

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Speaker 1: in the past game and because the last couple of

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Speaker 1: years the league has been trending towards the dominant past league. Well,

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Speaker 1: I feel like over this last offseason, I feel like

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Speaker 1: because we kind of stuck with that more finest, smaller

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Speaker 1: kind of linemen who can get around, move when Josh

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00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: extends plays, and whatnot. Feel like over the offseason the

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00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: league's kind of caught up to itself as far as

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Speaker 1: defense is figuring it out and kind of bringing back

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Speaker 1: more of that balance attack with being able to run

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Speaker 1: the ball as well. And I just feel like we

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00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: kind of got ourselves in a pickle now with some

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Speaker 1: of our linemen going down, you know, where we don't

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Speaker 1: have the beafs to kind of push people around or

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Speaker 1: run the ball like a lot of fans kind of

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00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: want us to, because that's not really us. But I

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Speaker 1: feel like we just kind of got ourselves in a

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Speaker 1: pickle with the type of lineman we have chosen over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. And that's kind of been

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Speaker 1: more of my thought on why, you know, we we

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Speaker 1: aren't able to just push people around and run the

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Speaker 1: ball like crazy. All right, but let us let us

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Speaker 1: weigh in on that, Tony. Thanks for the call, Steve.

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Speaker 1: Before you answer that, I want to ask you this.

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Speaker 1: He's concerned that we don't have lineman that can maul

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Speaker 1: and push people off the line of scrimmage. My question

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Speaker 1: to you is this, do you believe that playing physically

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Speaker 1: is a mindset or who you are? Um? Well, I

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00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: think it's both. Um. You gotta have guys who um

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00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: typically and stereotypically guys who are nasty beasts kind of

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00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the gritty guys. We're talking about

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00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 1: a tough guys or guys that are can only play

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Speaker 1: because of that um that's there. That's their calling that's

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Speaker 1: their calling card. Other guys that are gifted, you get,

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Speaker 1: you know, guys like Jason Peters, Anthony Munio's guys like that,

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Speaker 1: and Jackie Slater and you know, guys like Will Wolford

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Speaker 1: and back in the day are in our guys. They're

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00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: so gifted you can you can be as angry as

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Speaker 1: you want, You're still not going to get around him.

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Speaker 1: You know. They just they they're cool, calm and collected. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I think this and he he's got a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a point because when when a team comes

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Speaker 1: out and they're scouting these guys in the draft and

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Speaker 1: in the in the draft, in the combine and all

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Speaker 1: the scouting techniques that they use, coaches and gms will

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Speaker 1: sit down and say, hey, listen, here's what we value

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Speaker 1: in guys. They we value high character. We want them.

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Speaker 1: We want them, you know, we want them come from

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Speaker 1: you know, good background. We want to be the right

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Speaker 1: kind of guy. Who want him smart, We want them,

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Speaker 1: you know, we don't want guys who do things like

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Speaker 1: you know, get their name in the paper for the

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Speaker 1: wrong reasons. You know, all the stuff caught me out. Whatever,

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Speaker 1: we want those kind of guys. But then if we're

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Speaker 1: talking about physical traits, we want them this tall, and

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00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: we want them this heavy, with their arms this long.

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Speaker 1: You know, they've got all these criteria that they talk

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Speaker 1: to these guys about, and one of the criteria is

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Speaker 1: in offensive lineman is what you're talking about. Is he nasty?

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Speaker 1: Is he got a contemper? Does he play angry when

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Speaker 1: somebody disrespects his quarterback? Does he go after the guy?

848
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: Is he a protector like mentally? Is he a fighter?

849
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: Does he have a mentality where he hopes the game

850
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: gets chippy? All of these things are things that go

851
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: into the mix of who your evaluation. Now, you have

852
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: different evaluations for a receiver, says the guy this high,

853
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: this tall, this fast, all of that and he kind

854
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: of plays with it. But it's not as important for

855
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: a receiver. But when you talk about offensive lineman, they'll say, hey,

856
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: this is a higher priority. So maybe you've got something.

857
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: Maybe part of the evaluation process for the Bills could

858
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: be altered a little bit to bring more guys like

859
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: that in. You know, you can put that at the higher.

860
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: You know, teams do put that on the list of

861
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: things they want in their offensive lineman. Now, when you're

862
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: in the draft, you get what you get, I mean,

863
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: and if you're going to take a guy in the

864
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: first round or whatever round you decide, you know, you

865
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: don't really get to say, okay, this we're not going

866
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: to take this guy because he's not nasty enough. Like

867
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: he's he's by far the best on the board, whether

868
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: he's nasty or not taken, or this is one of

869
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: those guys like this is one of those guys well,

870
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: like as Spencer Brown, this is Spencer Brown has got

871
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: some traits. He could be a guy like Will Wolford

872
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: or or you know, Jason Peter, one of these gifted

873
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: guys because he's so gifted athletically. Who cares if he's nasty.

874
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna be able to beat him up anyway. That

875
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: kind of stuff takes over. But there's absolutely no question

876
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: that is part of the evaluation process of what kind

877
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: of grit and toughness a guy has. So if the

878
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: Bills need to put that higher on their priority list

879
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: when they're evaluating offensive and defensive lineman, maybe maybe they

880
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: maybe they do. Let's go back to the phones and

881
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: squeeze in Steve from Orchard Park. Steve, what do you

882
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: have for us? You're on one bill's lives. What are

883
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: you doing good? Just a piggyback and what the previous

884
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: callers said. I do think the league is going back

885
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: towards you know, they're they're trying to win with average

886
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacking by running the ball and playing with d and

887
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: really you can't argue with that because that's the recipe

888
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: first success. It kind of takes the way all the

889
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: talent we have on our teams because we all know

890
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: they're rushing four dropping seven, and you know, we are

891
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: being forced to run the ball more because of how

892
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: teams are defensing, not just us, but you know the

893
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Chargers and all these other passes. Yea.

894
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: So my point is, you know, I watched the game,

895
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: the Titans and Patriots game yesterday. Let me tell you

896
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: something that was a snotnacker. It was a physical, physical

897
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: football game. Tennessee really was in the game until late

898
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: and all the turnovers. But I just think that we

899
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: had to kind of run the ball a little more

900
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: like we've been and take so much pressure off of

901
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: Josh and we still have elite receivers tight end and

902
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: that's where the difference should be in the games coming

903
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: up against the England. I don't know if it will be,

904
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: but we we should make Matt Jones, you know, hurry,

905
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: get on him, hurry his throws and really get into

906
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: his face and they him do things and show him

907
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 1: things that he hasn't seen yet. And I think that's

908
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: the key to successful this week. It is. I don't

909
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: think they And thanks for the call, Steve. I don't

910
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: think it gets to putting it all on mac Jones

911
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: until you stop their rushing attack. And if you can't

912
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: do that, and the Patriots are a physical offensive front,

913
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: they run the ball very effectively. I mean right now

914
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: they're twelfth in the twelfth in the league in rushing

915
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: and they have a committee of guys that they roll

916
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: through there and they use that to set up their

917
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 1: short passing attack. They make you play them honest, run

918
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: pass and I think that's what coach McDermott has been

919
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: trying to get this offense to here in Buffalo. He

920
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: wants them to just run it effectively enough where defenses

921
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: have to respect it because if they have to respect it.

922
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: That means they have to play Buffalo's passing attack straight up.

923
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: They can't overcompensate to stop Buffalo's passing attack because they

924
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 1: have a running game that you at least have to respect.

925
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: And that's been the problem. The problem has been there

926
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: hasn't been enough effectiveness in the run game for the

927
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: Bills to consistently create the favorable matchups in the passing

928
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: game that they want to exploit. And until you run

929
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: effectively enough on a week by week by week basis

930
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: to force defenses out of that approach, you're gonna have

931
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: some of the same problems. You're gonna have to nickel

932
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: and dime your way down the field. You're gonna need

933
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen play drives that consistently make plays and do

934
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 1: not result in turnovers. And we've seen the Bills get

935
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: bit by that. Sometimes they say, all right, you want

936
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: to be a passing offense. Have all this stuff underneath,

937
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: and let's see if you can make fourteen of those

938
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: plays in a row and get to the end zone

939
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: without turning it over or screwing it up or not

940
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: converting a third down. Right, That's what it comes down to.

941
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: And the Bills are a team and like a lot

942
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: of other teams that are really good, they use the

943
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: pass to set up the run. They know they threaten

944
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: you with the pass, so they're gonna see and most teams,

945
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: unfortunately have been able to hold the Bills in check

946
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: in their run game with six in the box. Seven

947
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: in the box certainly heavy in the box. Teams haven't

948
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: really had to go to now when the Bills went

949
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: heavy against the Jets and started going tight ends an

950
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: extra offensive linemen, some things that happened. They've made some

951
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: hey in the running game in the play action game.

952
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: But the Bills, like a lot of teams in the

953
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: NFL these days, it's a it's a throwing team. They're

954
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: gonna use the throwing the past to set up the

955
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: run rather than vice versa like some of the old

956
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: other schools other old school teams do. Patriots are just

957
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: the opposite. They're running the football and everything comes off

958
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: of that. In my opinion, great time for us here.

959
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: When we return, we'll be joined by one Eric Wood

960
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: will recap the Bills victory on Thanksgiving Night against the

961
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: Saints and take a look ahead at the Patriots, who

962
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: are coming up on Monday Night football at High March Stadium.

963
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: We'll get to all of that next. Here on One

964
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health, it's Buffalo Bills

965
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: Radio at a Steve Tasker who has spent all over

966
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind of a

967
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 1: dual role player for you, Stave, Steve a blimp. We're

968
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: not even in the straged beer of normalcy. All right,

969
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: Monday's here on One Bill's Live during the regular season

970
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 1: means we are joined by Bills Radio color analyst Eric Wood.

971
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: So let's welcome in Eric now and discuss the game

972
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: that was and the big big game coming up. All right, Eric,

973
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: let's begin here. You had a delayed Thanksgiving. Everything go well.

974
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: I saw the scales on Twitter. You've tipped him pretty effectively.

975
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: I did. Everything went extremely well. It went according to

976
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: plan yesterday. I kept up with my competitive spirit of

977
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 1: the weight gain competition which we held each year when

978
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: we would do the big Thanksgiving deals at my house

979
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: while I was playing. So I still keep that going.

980
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: It's just me and my kids now are participating their

981
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: three and six. I'm not sure how my son didn't

982
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: gain even a point one pound. That's probably how hard

983
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: he was playing yesterday throughout the day and my daughter

984
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: point four pounds, I think, so not a bad effort

985
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: from her. Yeah, and no no cheating with water weight,

986
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: which was Richie Incognito's popular technique to win the competition.

987
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: No cheating with water, no, no, no cheating with water.

988
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: Now the key is to gaining over ten pounds from

989
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: start to finish throughout the day. Is that that's post

990
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: workout and post sauna in the morning. So I will

991
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: say that I am d hyd rated at that two

992
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: forty three point four that you see there. So yes,

993
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 1: there there is some gamesmanship. But to stand in front

994
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: of the fridge with a glass of water at the

995
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: end of the night and just chug water until you

996
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: beat everyone, that's that's just foul play. Yeah, that's yeah.

997
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: I think that's a cross that crosses a line. I'll

998
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: go with that. Yeah. So what you traveled to New Orleans?

999
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: You were there, none of us did. A lot of

1000
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: Bills fans were there. Give us a give us a

1001
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: sense of the entire weekend. Let's give us an overview

1002
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: first Bills fans nice game Bill's win down in New Orleans.

1003
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: Give us a full synopsis of the weekend before we

1004
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: get down into the nitty gries of the game. Yeah,

1005
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: I flew in late Wednesday night on Thursday, So on

1006
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day, I went and grabbed some lunch on Bourbon

1007
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: Street with Sal Capaccio and Josh Reed of the Buffalo Media,

1008
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: and we got some oysters and some traditional Cajun food

1009
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: down there. So, um, not a traditional Thanksgiving on Thursday

1010
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: for me food wise, But holy smokes, there was a

1011
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 1: lot of Bills fans down there, more than I expected.

1012
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: And you come off the loss to Indie and maybe

1013
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: some people are down on the Bills, but likely all

1014
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: those people had already made their travel plans to New Orleans.

1015
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: I just thought, you know, on Thanksgiving. You know, this

1016
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: isn't a new The Bills played on Thanksgiving two years

1017
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: ago in Dallas. There was a ton of Bills fans there.

1018
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: Maybe it lost some of the lore to travel on

1019
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: a holiday, but man, there was a ton of Bills

1020
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: fans in the building. And also it was an expensive

1021
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: ticket because they were honoring Drew Brees. He was calling

1022
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: the game for NBC, which I'm sure most Bills fans

1023
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: that turned on the broadcast and watched it on TV

1024
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: saw but they did this big deal to honor them

1025
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: at halftime, so it was actually an expensive ticket. But

1026
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: got to give Bills fans credit. They showed up in

1027
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 1: a huge way again down there, and then the Bills

1028
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: took care of business. They did what they needed to do.

1029
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: They did what they should do against a team that

1030
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: is maybe more injury depleted than any team that I've

1031
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: ever witnessed, definitely ever called. When you consider that their

1032
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, both starting running backs, which we didn't know

1033
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: throughout the week that both starting running backs would be

1034
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: out as well. Obviously Michael Thomas was lost already earlier

1035
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: in the season. Their number one receiver, their number one

1036
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: tight end Troutman's out of the game, their number one

1037
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: sacks leader, their number one right tackle who might be

1038
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: the best right tackle in football, and Ryan Ramchak, I mean,

1039
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: just injuries depleting this entire team. So if you're the Bills,

1040
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: you go into the game and you think, okay, well,

1041
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: let's not turn the ball over. Well, they have two

1042
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: first half turnovers. But if you think, okay, let's not

1043
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: turn the ball over and let's not do anything dumb

1044
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: here and we'll walk away with a big win, they

1045
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: still had the two turnovers and they still walk away

1046
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: with a big time win. Yeah, and you know, you

1047
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: look at the stat sheet at the end of the game, Eric,

1048
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: and the run game from a yards per carry perspective

1049
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: was not that impressive. But the eyeball test, at least

1050
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: for me, said there were a lot of good things

1051
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: that happened with the run game through the course of

1052
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: the game against the Saints. Brita again is a spark.

1053
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: So I don't know what's your take on it. Because

1054
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: I felt good about the run game. I looked at

1055
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: the statuet after I was surprised that the production wasn't higher. Yeah,

1056
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm kind of on the same page as you, Chris,

1057
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: because when I was watching the game, it felt like

1058
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: it was more productive, but there was a lot of

1059
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: zero to you, no yard to maybe lost carries that

1060
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: hurt people's averages. Because when you look at the game,

1061
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary and Matt Brita both run for the exact

1062
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: amount of yards per carry at two point nine, which

1063
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: is not what you're looking for. But Brita has a

1064
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: nine yard run. He also caught the screen for a touchdown,

1065
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: so he had some good involvement Devin Singletary had a

1066
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: fifteen yard run and I thought he ran extremely hard.

1067
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: And when you look at these Bills running backs room

1068
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: although Zach Moss has shown a capability and a capability

1069
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: against the Bills next opponent in the Patriots, when he

1070
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,439
Speaker 1: had a great game against them last year, I think

1071
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: you have the roll with Singletary and Brita, and Brita

1072
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: gives you that added element with that speed factor on

1073
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: the field. You know he's he could catch the ball

1074
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. He had two catches in the game,

1075
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: he had the screen pass for a touchdown, that little

1076
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: angle route out of the backfield, and he could be

1077
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: a mismatch for linebackers in this league. And when you

1078
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: just look at the fact that the Bills at least

1079
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: committed to the run game, and this is before it

1080
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: became an out of hand game, that allows for some

1081
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: of those big play action plays to come open. When

1082
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: you look at the Digs touchdown that came off a

1083
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: play action Dawson Knox touchdown, so does come off a

1084
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 1: play action and so at least committing to a run

1085
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: game in some sense allowed some of those bigger players

1086
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: to happen. You mentioned the Breed of screen pass that

1087
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: goes for a touchdown. If any other back on this

1088
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: roster catches that ball, I don't think it goes for six.

1089
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,479
Speaker 1: His speed and his juice enables him to get through

1090
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: that crack because he cuts that thing back inside and

1091
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: even though it may not have been blocked perfectly, it

1092
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: was enough for a player with that kind of speed

1093
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: to get through there and finish the play in the

1094
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: end zone. Right. Oh, you're exactly right. And Devin Singletary's

1095
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: extremely shifty. Just that top end speed isn't there. And

1096
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: their strengths and weaknesses, I would say, you know, Devin

1097
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: Singletary is gonna break a lot more tackles than Matt Breda.

1098
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: He's bigger, he's a little more physical. But when you

1099
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: look at what Matt Breeda has brought to this offense,

1100
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: and maybe it was good for him to kind of

1101
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: sit for a part of the season, truly learn and

1102
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: digest this offense them find a way in practice see

1103
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: exactly how he fits. Because now you're seeing a spark

1104
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: with this Bill's offense. Where As the season goes on,

1105
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: a lot of times you're losing players and you lose

1106
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: some of that spark. Matt Breeda has truly been an

1107
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: additional spark late in this season or mid to late

1108
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: in this season. Yeah, and as this game progressed, the

1109
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: Bills really did catch a little bit of a break.

1110
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: They threw the two first half interceptions, but they kind

1111
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: of balanced it with two stops on fourth down. Those

1112
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: are turnovers just you know, you kind of because the

1113
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: Saints just give the ball away and don't get a

1114
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: chance to punt it. That's really what level the playing

1115
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: field going into the going into half time, I thought,

1116
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: even though the Saints, you know, we're scoreless, what did

1117
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: you think about the defense overall? I thought ed Oliver

1118
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: Mario Addison came through in a big way in that

1119
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: first half and really set the tone for the entire team.

1120
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: We got to play more games on Thanksgiving because Ed

1121
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: Oliver shows up on Thanksgiving. He did two years ago

1122
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: in Dallas and he did against the Saints. Mario Addison

1123
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: had a great game. You know, Tarin Armstead, their left tackle,

1124
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: he was a little hinder throughout the game and Mario

1125
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: Addison exposed him. That's what you should do for a veteran,

1126
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: veteran defensive end that has the experience that he has.

1127
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: You know, he had a productive game, but ed Oliver

1128
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: showed up, and honestly, he showed up from a majority

1129
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: of this season. And you know, we've heard from the

1130
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: coaching staff out over the last few years about how

1131
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: ed Oliver's really coming into it his own and how yes,

1132
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: a lot of the plays he makes you see it

1133
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: on film, but you don't necessarily see it in the statue.

1134
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: Well now we're starting to see it in the stat

1135
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: sheet too, And you know, it generally takes a couple

1136
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: defensive lineman to make a sack. You know, you can

1137
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: avoid one guy in the pocket even for a TfL

1138
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: if one guy penetrates where you can cut it away

1139
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: from him. And it was almost a one two punch

1140
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: of Mario Addison and at Oliver throughout that game. And

1141
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: obviously we're all hoping that Star Latoula can come back

1142
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: and be kind of at the form that he left

1143
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: prior to his COVID designation. And then you know, I

1144
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: feel like, really, you know, throughout the rest of the

1145
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: defensive line, they just need some more spark. And you know,

1146
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes is always a consistent player, but when you

1147
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: rotate like they do, Russo and Epanessa. You'd like to

1148
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: see them show up in a bigger way, especially on

1149
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: the stat sheet, moving forward. And they may need to

1150
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: show up in a bigger way going forward because the

1151
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: Bills are going to be without their best cover man

1152
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: on the back end for the rest of the season

1153
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: in Tredavious White. I know this is a defense that's

1154
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: rooted in a lot of zone coverage principles. So maybe

1155
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: you know, the loss isn't felt as much as it

1156
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: might be on a team that plays a lot of man,

1157
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: but the Bills have been playing a little bit more

1158
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: man in of late, you know this season I'm talking about,

1159
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: So maybe just assess for us making up and filling

1160
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: that void, most presumably with Dane Jackson here going forward. Eric, Well,

1161
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just this is a blow to the

1162
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: Bills defense. It's the blows of the Bills team. Tredevious

1163
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: White's one of everybody on the team, so one of

1164
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: their favorite players. I got to play one season with him,

1165
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: and you know, Tredavius is a guy that I still

1166
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: have just a ton of love for two this day,

1167
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: and you hate to see it. He does everything right,

1168
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: He works his tailoff, he's the type of guy that

1169
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: you just you feel so terrible and something like this happens,

1170
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: and then when you look at the impact that will

1171
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: have on the field for the Bills will be, it'll

1172
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: be it'll be big. And to your Pointcresus, they're playing

1173
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: more man to man defense this year, and I think

1174
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: part of the reason for that is when you've had

1175
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: some run game struggles. Where that ends up getting you

1176
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: is in the play action game, especially that RPO game.

1177
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: We saw some of it against Tennessee, especially in the

1178
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: second half. Well, how you combat some of those hard

1179
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: play actions is by playing more man defense because your linebackers,

1180
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: if you're running zone, they have to step up. When

1181
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: you look at what the Patriots are going to do

1182
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: this week, when they run that hard when they have

1183
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: that good run game and then they run that hard

1184
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: play action those tight ends. If your linebackers are stepping up,

1185
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: the tight ends and the over routes become harder to defend.

1186
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: And unless you're in man to man defense, and that

1187
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: becomes an issue when you lose a guy like Trdavious White.

1188
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: You love the fact that you have a guy in

1189
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: Dane Jackson that's been in the system for a few

1190
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: years that knows what's going on from a xs and

1191
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: no standpoint, doesn't have to learn the defense by any means.

1192
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: But you know, let's not sugarcoat this. This is a

1193
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: big loss. I mean, we see guys on a consistent basis,

1194
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this league try to attack Levi Wallas over

1195
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: and over simply because trudevious Whites on the other side

1196
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: of the field. And that's how good of a cornerback

1197
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: he is. Now we'll see how much Levi Wallas can

1198
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: step up in a role that at times, you know,

1199
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: looking at the bill schedule over the next you know,

1200
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: five or six weeks, it doesn't look like there would

1201
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: be any situations where you truly have to follow around

1202
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: a big time number one receiver, you know, but come

1203
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: playoff time, it could be a situation where Levi Wallace

1204
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: may need to grow into that role. Yeah, and this

1205
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: this game rolls in, this New England Patriot game on

1206
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: Monday Night, becomes absolutely massive in the standings for the

1207
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: division title, and going in it does it's tending. You know,

1208
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: this puts it into me. It puts a little more

1209
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: pressure not only on Levi Wallace, but also on pour

1210
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: your and hide in the way the secondary is gonna

1211
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: come together, and also it's going to be really interesting

1212
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: is to see who the Bills throw in there at

1213
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: cornerback two. You might think it's Dame Jackson automatically, it

1214
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: could it doesn't have to be, though. It could be

1215
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: a number of guys and they could do some different things.

1216
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on what this does to pour

1217
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: your hide in the secondary, not only with Tredavius out,

1218
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: but how how the team schematically is going to change. Yeah,

1219
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to step up, and you know

1220
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: this this becomes a matchup. You know, in particular this week,

1221
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: Poorier and Hide are going to have to tackle well

1222
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to show up in a big

1223
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: way against these tight ends for New England. And you know,

1224
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: and kind of going back to what Chris was saying

1225
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: about Epanusa and Rousseau needing to step up, I think

1226
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: everyone on the defensive line is going to have to

1227
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: step up just a little bit more and pressure the

1228
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: quarterback on a more consistent basis. Now it could be

1229
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: more blitz looks and you think, hey, let's play more

1230
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: coverage and let's help out maybe some new faces in

1231
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: this secondary well, you can also go the exact opposite

1232
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: route and bring more pressure and try and get that

1233
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: ball out quicker. But to your points, Steve, you know,

1234
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: Poorer and Hide have been just they've played so tremendous

1235
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: for the organization from the second they walked into this

1236
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: building and they just need to continue to do what

1237
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: they've been doing because they've played at such a high level.

1238
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: But it's for the most part been the same exact

1239
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: secondary for years, especially three out of the four. When

1240
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: you look at White Power and Hide, and when you

1241
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,919
Speaker 1: lose one of the three of those guys that are

1242
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: truly as consistent as it gets, you know, it forces

1243
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: everyone else around you to kind of step up. And

1244
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: then Eric, just with respect to New England and their defense,

1245
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: they get another four takeaways yesterday. Granted, Titans running backs

1246
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: did not know how to hold on to the football

1247
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: even though they rolled up two hundred and seventy rushing

1248
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: yards on the Patriots. My concern is this, we know

1249
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: the history of the Patriots. They make you pay for

1250
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: the mistakes that you make. And even though Josh has

1251
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: been very productive offensively in his last four games, he's

1252
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: got seven interceptions and a fumble lost that's going to

1253
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: get this team killed against New England, knowing what they

1254
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: do with takeaways. So how do you rein that in

1255
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: with Josh without compromising his improvisational ability and his natural aggressiveness.

1256
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: I asked Sean McDermott a very similar question on the

1257
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: pregame interview, because that's something that I wonder as well.

1258
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: You know, you have this playmaker with Josh, and you

1259
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: want him to stay aggressive. And I think and it

1260
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: coach said as much. You know, you start playing scared,

1261
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: you start playing worried. That's not what Sean wants out

1262
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 1: of his guys. You want Josh to remain aggressive. Now

1263
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: there's times where there's been throws where maybe he's just

1264
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: been a little bit off with the communication with the

1265
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: receiver or the throw has been off. It's always so

1266
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: hard for me to tell, especially in those live moments

1267
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: on the broadcast, whether it was truly a misfire or

1268
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: if Josh was assuming a guy was sitting on his

1269
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Speaker 1: own or going to continue to run, whatever it may be.

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01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: They got to be on perfect communication and understanding of

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Speaker 1: where everybody's going to be, and then ball security needs

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Speaker 1: to be on point. This is something that New England

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01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: has always done. They've always forced a lot of turnovers,

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01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: and then the way they're built offensively, especially this year

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01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: with high completion percentage from mac Jones, but not necessarily

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01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: a lot of big plays in a productive run game.

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01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: It becomes similar to the Colts, where if you turn

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01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: the ball over early and you make mistakes, they can

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01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: really pound you out. But if you're able to make

1280
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 1: plays early and you force them to play from behind

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01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: and force them to try and make big plays, that

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01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 1: doesn't suit the Patriots at all. One of the things

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about, what do you think

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Speaker 1: about the roster shuffling. Isaiah McKenzie's sitting down this week,

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01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: Marquess Stevenson getting a chance to do some returns. He

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Speaker 1: played very well. His speed brings something to the game.

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Speaker 1: Do you anticipate or what are your thoughts on how

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Speaker 1: it went versus the Saints? Obviously it went very well,

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Speaker 1: But what about going forward? What do you think this

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Speaker 1: says about the roster and their flexibility going forward. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll say this first. What it says about Sean McDermott

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01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: is is that, like we've talked about, he holds guys

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Speaker 1: accountable through their playing time. I mean they're standing with

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01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 1: the team. He is not a yeller and a screamer.

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01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: He never will be. You know, he's not going to

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01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: sit there and curse you out in front of a

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01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: team meeting like other coaches may do to kind of

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01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: stir their players along make them uncomfortable. He makes you

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01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: uncomfortable in a good way. You know, you don't want

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01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: it to be too casual around an NFL facility, around

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01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: a football team in particular. But when you look at

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01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: how Sean McDermott does things, he will take playing time

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01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: away from guys and he's not afraid to do it.

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01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: When you look at McKenzie, me have one he lost

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01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: one fumble in one hundred and eighty eight touches as

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01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: a bill I believe that was the number. But when

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01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: it comes in a big way and you're trying to

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01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: do everything you can to turn every rock to get

1309
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: is this team to its peak heading into the playoffs?

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01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: Maybe that is bringing Stevenson in a return role. Now.

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01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: I think Isaiah McKenzie surely has a role for this

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01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: team on this roster, whether it's in the return game

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01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: or his involvement on offense. But some weeks the injuries

1314
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 1: and everything else kind of dictates who needs to be up.

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01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Isaiah McKenzie's played good enough ball

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Speaker 1: on a consistent basis that maybe that was a makeup

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01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: call against an injury depleted Saints team that he assumed

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01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: that he would have some leeway there. Maybe you bring

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01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie back up this week and that was kind

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01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: of the shot in the arm he needed. And when

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01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 1: you look at the fact that Speedy put one on

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01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: the ground on punt return, you know, who knows if

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01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: you're able to keep both of them up in a

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01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: game to say, well, let's have McKenzie return punts and

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01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: let's have Speedy return kickoffs. I'm not sure if you

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01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: can do that. It's interesting. It would be interesting to

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Speaker 1: see what they do with Vernon Butler and whether Anko

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01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: and Briant are the guys that they keep active or

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01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: if stars able to come back. I don't know exactly

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01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 1: how that they're gonna do that, but i'd imagine against

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01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: the Patriot you'll have four d tackles up. But it

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01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: was obviously there was messages being sent to certain guys

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01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 1: in particular, and you didn't have to read between the lines.

1334
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: Because Leslie Frasier came out and told us as much

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01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: last week that they needed to see more from Vernon Butler,

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01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: who they paid good money too and brought in from Carolina,

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01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: and expect a lot more out of right. And if

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01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: the message to play physical wasn't heard previously, it better

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01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: be heard this week because as you mentioned, you know

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01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: this is a Patriots offense that can mash. Whether it's

1341
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: Damien Harris, whether it's Romandre Stevenson, even Brandon Bolden is

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01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: getting rotated in here in the running back contingent for

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01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I think it's safe to say, though, Eric,

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01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: we're probably going to see some more roster shuffling this week,

1345
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: whether it's the COVID designations with Latoula, Lea and Brown.

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01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: You need another corner, probably presumably on the roster now

1347
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 1: that you've lost your Davious White, so somebody may have

1348
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: to come up from the practice squad there, and then

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01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,799
Speaker 1: you know, what are you doing at receiver? As you mentioned,

1350
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 1: you've got seven on the active roster now now that

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01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: you've added Stevenson. I don't know if that's sustainable going forward,

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01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: So there could be like a handful of shuffles going

1353
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: into this game. I know you have an extra day

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01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: of prep question for you though, when you see those

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01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: shuff those shuffles, is it really just like a blip

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01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 1: on the radar for players because these guys are all around.

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01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they're on the practice squad, they're on the

1358
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: practice field every day, they're in the meeting rooms. Is

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01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: it just like a blip on the radar and it's

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01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: just like, let's just go it can be And that's

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01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of that's kind of a tricky question because

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01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: the Vernon Butler and Isaiah McKenzie, like, I know those

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01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 1: aren't roster moves, but not putting them in uniform that's

1364
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: send That sends a message to the team and we

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01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: don't walk into you know they're not. They may have

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01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: been given a heads up, but likely you know, if

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01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: you're dressing for the game and when you're kind of

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01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: on that fringe when you walk in and you know

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01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: if you have a jersey on your shoulder pads or not,

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01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: because sometimes it comes down to is a guy able

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01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: to you know through pregame warm ups, Hey let's go

1372
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,879
Speaker 1: test out this guy's ankle. Okay, now you're up in uniform,

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01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: so you sometimes don't even know if you're in a Jersey, Yes,

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01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: that can send shockwaves. And I'll say this, I was

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01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: down on the field prior to the Saints game and

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01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 1: there was a lot of Bills guys going over to

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01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: Azama mackenzie and consoling him, and he was upset, which

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01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: he should be, and I respect that. If he wasn't upset,

1379
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: then he's not the competitor that we know he is,

1380
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. And so those roster moves, yes,

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01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: those can be shocking. Chris, your point about bringing up cornerbacks,

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01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: elevating guys from practice squad, you know there's those do

1383
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 1: not send shockwaves around the organization, especially if those guys

1384
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: are already in the building or have been in the building.

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01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: You know, those things happened so much, especially late in

1386
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: the year. Kind of throughout my career, I felt like

1387
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: every week it was, Hey, well we want to test

1388
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 1: this guy out, so we're gonna elevate him. This guy's

1389
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: going down. But they both got paid like active roster

1390
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: that week because they were both on the roster a

1391
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: certain amount of time, so it didn't really affect either

1392
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 1: of their pocketbooks. Eric, thanks man. It was great and

1393
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: a good game in New Orleans, and what a massive

1394
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: game we have to look forward to on Monday night.

1395
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a tough weekend waiting all that way

1396
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: until Monday night to watch this gameplay. But there's no

1397
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: doubt in my mind this is the biggest game of

1398
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: the weekend around the NFL. Oh for sure. I can't wait.

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01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: We were talking about it before, Steve. I mean, this

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01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: is what football is all about. This is what makes

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01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 1: it fun. You know, we got this one at home,

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01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: which will be tremendous. Is on Monday night football? You know?

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01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: Is this going to be declared a national holiday in Buffalo? Like?

1404
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: Are people actually going to work Monday? I think you'll

1405
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: struggle to find a place that you can even get

1406
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: any work done on a car or go get a

1407
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 1: bite to eat. I think everyone will be out of

1408
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: the stadium at least I would be. Yeah. Well, the

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01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: bigger question is who's gonna be working on Tuesday, because

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01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: if the Bills win this game, I don't know if

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01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: people are going home afterwards, So working on Tuesday might

1412
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: be the bigger question. But you will be working on

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01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: Tuesday with us when we catch up with you next

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01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 1: week after that game. Thanks, so it's always for the time, Eric,

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01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: We appreciate it absolutely. And if I got Mickey years on,

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01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 1: next week, I'm meeting my family in Disney World straight

1417
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 1: from Buffalo, so oh man. Yeah, if I got like

1418
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: an ice cream stain on my face and Mickey ears on,

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01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: you guys will know what's going on. All right, fair enough?

1420
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: Hopefully the wind gets you a free trip to Disney World,

1421
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: but no promises. Thanks as always, Eric, will catch up

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01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: with you next week. That a. That's Eric Wood, Bills

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01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: Radio color analyst on the Bills Radio Network, joining us

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01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live, Steve and I back with

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01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: more in a moment Here on one Bills Live, presented

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01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: by Collide to Network Bills Radio. All right, welcome back

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01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 1: to one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

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01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: and we'll get back to the phones in just a second.

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Speaker 1: Don't know if you saw this over the weekend, Steve. Obviously,

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01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: the news of Tradevius White's torn acl putting him out

1431
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,839
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season, prompted some Bills fans

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01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: to start making donations in the amount of twenty seven

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01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: dollars to he Is Charity of Choice, which I believe

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01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: is a Louisiana Food Bank Northwest Louisiana Food Yeah. Yeah,

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01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: donating in twenty seven dollars increments. I have not seen

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01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 1: an update on the total raised at this point, but

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01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: it was it was going fast and furious on Friday

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01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 1: and Saturday. I know our people at Buffalo Bills dot

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01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: com are getting on it. So if we, if and

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01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 1: when we have an update on the total money raised,

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01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: we will pass it along. But the the website to

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01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:39,440
Speaker 1: donate is food Bank n l A for North Louisiana

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01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: dot org slash donate, So go there if you're interested

1444
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: in u sending a twenty seven dollars donation over to

1445
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: Tradevius's charity of choice. Nice gesture by Bills fans and

1446
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 1: not surprised, So good on you for doing so good stuff. Yeah,

1447
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: and it was it's rough. I mean, you got you

1448
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: just want to, you know, all of us, you want

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01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: to kind of give Tradevia. He's that kind of guy.

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01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: You want to give him a hug and say, man,

1451
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 1: keep going rough too. Because the injury happens in mid

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01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: to late November and it's a twelve month injury. I

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01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: mean he won't be right by training camp. I mean

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01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 1: he's it's a long well, it's usually seven to nine

1455
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 1: months to recover. Then you have to go through strength

1456
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 1: training and everything to get the getting back to where

1457
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 1: it was. You gotta get back to the point where

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01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: you can be an e lead athlete. So that was November,

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01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: so we're talking late November, so nine months from there.

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01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean you're you're already talking September or no August,

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01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: talking August, late August. So yeah, it'll be a challenge.

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01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it pass him, though, I'm not saying

1463
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: he's gonna be Adrian Peterson and be good as new,

1464
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 1: and seven and a half months that guy was a

1465
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: freaking nature. Um yeah, I wouldn't mind if Tradevias is too, though, right,

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01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 1: But man, oh man, I it because now people are

1467
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: still interested in the Bill's season, and you know, Bill's

1468
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: fans were wrapped up in it and everything. He goes off,

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01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 1: gets the surgery and he's going to be sitting there

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01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: with his leg up, and we don't even know if

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Speaker 1: he's had the surgery yet. A lot of times you

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01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: have to let all the swelling calm down in the

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01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: knee before a doctor can effectively operate, and you know

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01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: you won't want the swelling crowding the area, so they

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01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: usually have to wait until swelling goes down before they

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Speaker 1: can go ahead and execute the procedure. So best of

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01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: luck to him in surgery and in recovery. Knowing how

1478
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: much of a nose to the grindstone approach he has

1479
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: to his profession, I would anticipate he takes a similar

1480
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: approach to his rehab over the next several months going forward,

1481
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: So we wish him the best of luck with that.

1482
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones though, at eight oh

1483
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 1: three five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two,

1484
01:19:56,280 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: five fifty talking about the AFC Conference race. Watch your

1485
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: thoughts on it after watching non Bills football over the weekend,

1486
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: and where do you think the Bills place in it

1487
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: might be? So we go back to the phones and

1488
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: to Jerry and Buffalo. Jerry, what do you have for us?

1489
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 1: You're all one? Bills Live, Hi, guys, good afternoon. Loves

1490
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: your show right now. With the way that New England

1491
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 1: played yesterday, I was a little bit more impressed with them.

1492
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,560
Speaker 1: And you know, the game on Monday is going to

1493
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: seem to be is going to be formidable. I think

1494
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 1: it's going to be a real test to see how

1495
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: the Bills performing this one and as far as their play,

1496
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask a couple of things. One

1497
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 1: was more of an observation, especially like in that Tennessee

1498
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: game with Josh his foot when he's slipped. I have

1499
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: noticed that the positioning of his feet when he's going

1500
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 1: to do a quarterback sneak is a bit of a

1501
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 1: giveaway on that as opposed to if he's under center

1502
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: and just going to hand off on a short yardage play.

1503
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you guys had noticed anything like that,

1504
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 1: or if there's been any talk of that observation. I

1505
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 1: would say this, Jerry, knowing how much the Bill's self

1506
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: scout and the fact that they had a bye week

1507
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: shortly thereafter the Titans game, and that's when the most

1508
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 1: amount of self scouting takes place, I wouldn't be surprised

1509
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: if they picked up on that and addressed it. They're

1510
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 1: always looking at that stuff. They actually have people assigned

1511
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 1: to self scout on a weekly basis. Ye tendencies, all

1512
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: of that stuff called it's used to be called quality control.

1513
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 1: Now a little bit of it, it's a little analytics,

1514
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 1: all that stuff, but it's you'd be surprised at what

1515
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: teams look at on film and particularly live action. Dan

1516
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: Rolovsky's did a little bit of this on Twitter just

1517
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: yesterday when he was talking about the Patriots yesterday playing

1518
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. He'll go on and he's got a

1519
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: lot of really good stuff on what teams look at.

1520
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: Like the left tackle. He had Taylor Luan, left tackle

1521
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: of Tennessee Titans against the Patriots, they were in a

1522
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 1: backfield formation. You could catch Luan looking down between these

1523
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: legs back into the backfield to make sure there was

1524
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 1: a back back there and if the back was there

1525
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: was gonna you know, he told him some things. Well,

1526
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: as soon as he started looking behind him where the

1527
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: back was and looking around and you could see the

1528
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: offset of the backs, then the defense started saying, hey,

1529
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: they were starting pointing to where the path the play

1530
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: was going. They knew a screen pass was coming over

1531
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: that way. Teams get way, they go way down a

1532
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 1: rabbit hole. About body language, foot you know, foot positioning.

1533
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: Offensive lineman sets when they're leaning on their hand, they're

1534
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: coming forward, when they're sitting back in their stances, they're

1535
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: gonna drop out all kinds of stuff and part of

1536
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: being a pro is getting in your stance as an

1537
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: offensive lineman the same way every single time, no matter

1538
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: what the play is. That's part of it. And every so, yes,

1539
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: if you're seeing a tip off that Josh Allen is

1540
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: giving it away on quarterback sneaks, they're either they're aware

1541
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 1: of it and they don't care, or they're aware of

1542
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: it and Josh hasn't fixed it yet. So it's that

1543
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So um, yes, that's it's good

1544
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: eye by you. And if indeed it is true, you

1545
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,839
Speaker 1: bet that they know about it, and so do the Patriots.

1546
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: Back to the phones into Bill on a cell, Bill,

1547
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one? Bill?

1548
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: Hold on? I think are you there? Bill? Yeah, I'm here. Okay,

1549
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: are you doing? I can't wait for this game. I'm

1550
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: extremely excited about it. H I'm getting a little irritated

1551
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: with everyone crowning New England all of a sudden for

1552
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: the past few weeks. Uh. In my personal opinion, I

1553
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: think they've got two things going for him. They're very

1554
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:42,839
Speaker 1: well coached, obviously, and coaches got them believe it in themselves,

1555
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: which is important. But I do think they're very thin

1556
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: on talent. They've got no running backs, no wide receivers.

1557
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: They really haven't played anyone yet of any consequence. I

1558
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: know the Bills haven't played a lot of good teams either,

1559
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: but uh, they do all dump passes. I think they've

1560
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:03,839
Speaker 1: been extremely fortunate. Yesterday Tennessee ran all over them with nobody,

1561
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 1: a guy that hasn't even been in the league. And uh,

1562
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: any good team would have would have beat them yesterday

1563
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 1: on their own field. They lost because Tennessee was that

1564
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 1: bad yesterday, and they Tennessee, Actually I'll played them and

1565
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 1: still managed to lose the game. So the team's gonna

1566
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: rise to the top when we play these guys, in

1567
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 1: my opinion, and I can't wait. I think we're gonna

1568
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be in both games. We're gonna

1569
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: established that we're a much better team than they are.

1570
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: They're also gonna lose to the Colts because the Colts

1571
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 1: are better than they are. Two. I feel they're extremely overrated,

1572
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: and I'm they're They're irritating me and I'm sick of them,

1573
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to beat them. Okay, all right,

1574
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: I think you've said your piece. Keep on so I

1575
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 1: can hear you yeah, yeah, Bill, I get it. Um, Yeah,

1576
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 1: the Bills haven't played anybody. The Patriots haven't played anybody.

1577
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: They have the same schedule. I mean they're in the

1578
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 1: same division. Um. The Patriots I think got what second

1579
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 1: in the division last year. They get the second place schedule,

1580
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 1: the Bills get the first place schedule. There's like one

1581
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: different game on the schedule for both these clubs. But

1582
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 1: as we've seen, when you play these games in the schedule,

1583
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 1: whether it's week one, Week three, or Week fourteen, week seventeen,

1584
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: there's a big difference in who you're going to be facing,

1585
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: what the teams looked like, you got to win on

1586
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: the game on the day you play, and whether the

1587
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: Bills win every single other game of the year, and

1588
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: then going to Monday night here in Buffalo against New

1589
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 1: England and stink, the Patriots can beat them. And as

1590
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 1: for the talent level, the Patriots has got a lot

1591
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 1: of really good players, particularly defensively. Offensively, you can take

1592
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 1: your shots at them. They got a rookie quarterback and

1593
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 1: they got their wide receivers are not well thought highly

1594
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: thought of, and we're coming into this year they've struggled

1595
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: to find a guy that was a top flight wide

1596
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: receiver that kind of stuff. Their running backs are also ran. Guys. Listen,

1597
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: you got a football team in New England that plays

1598
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: really well because they play mistake free. They don't turn

1599
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: it over, they never miss an opportunity. They take advantage

1600
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 1: of the opportunities you give them. They're very difficult to beat,

1601
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: even when they're in a down year, like the Bills

1602
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,640
Speaker 1: found out last year with Cam Newton playing quarterback here

1603
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. They barely got out of that game with

1604
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: a victory, and then they lumped them up pretty good

1605
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: on a Monday night game later in the season. But

1606
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: this is a team in New England that is very

1607
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: difficult to score points on, really difficult. They'll give up yards,

1608
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,799
Speaker 1: for christ they gave up all kinds of yards yesterday

1609
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: to the Tennessee Titans, but the Titans couldn't score points.

1610
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: And this just in that's pretty important. If you're gonna

1611
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: beat them, you got to score points. And that's what

1612
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 1: it's going to come down to for the Buffalo Bills.

1613
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: If they can move the football, that's all well and good,

1614
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: but you've got to find a way to score a

1615
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 1: lot of points and put the pressure back on their offense.

1616
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: Not too many people have been able to do that

1617
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: because they're so discipline, they play so mistake free on

1618
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. They're really hard to beat.

1619
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: That's why it's so frustrating to be an opponent of.

1620
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 1: There's going to be a fan of the Bills and

1621
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: the Jets and the Dolphins. We see them twice a

1622
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 1: year where they just come in and they they don't

1623
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: do anything special. They just do everything ordinary without making

1624
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 1: any mistakes, and a lot of time he feels like

1625
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,480
Speaker 1: you just gave him the game, and that's pretty frustrating

1626
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 1: for other fan bases. I also think their roster is

1627
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: better than Bill wants to give him credit for. Yeah,

1628
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: Damian Harris is a legit running back. He was. I

1629
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 1: think he's eighth in the AFC in rushing yards and

1630
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 1: that's only because they have a committee backfield back there.

1631
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,759
Speaker 1: Ramondre Stevenson, their fifth round draft choice, is a bowling ball.

1632
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: They use him a lot in short yardage, but he

1633
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: can all He's a one cut runner. There's no wiggle

1634
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: with that guy. He'll just run you over and at

1635
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 1: two thirty two he can do that. Their offensive line,

1636
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: I think is underrated. They've invested draft choices in their

1637
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: offensive line the last several years. It's finally coming together.

1638
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: Now they've got some young vets up there and they

1639
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: get quality coaching. They're tight ends. They spend a ton

1640
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 1: of money Hunter Henry John hu Smith. They're gonna be

1641
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 1: a handful for the safeties Jordan Porter and Micah Hyde

1642
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 1: to take care of. And then on the defensive side

1643
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: of the ball, it's a group. I mean that is

1644
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: a group. Matthew Judon might be the best free agent

1645
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 1: signing in the entire league in terms of scheme fit.

1646
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: It's got eleven and a half sacks in twelve games.

1647
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 1: The guy shows up every single week on the stat sheet.

1648
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: And they got other veterans in there that they just

1649
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 1: roll on through. Their second round pick, Christian Barmore, the

1650
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: defensive tackle out of Alabama. The guy is a load

1651
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: to move out of that spot at the defensive tackle position.

1652
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: So and their secondary is outstanding. Kyle Dugger's coming into

1653
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 1: his own. He's got three picks. The starter in front him,

1654
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: Adrian Phillips has four and J. C. Jackson is up

1655
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: among the league leaders and interceptions after getting another one

1656
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 1: of the end zone last week. This is a good,

1657
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 1: good team. They may not have elite talent, but they

1658
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 1: have an awful lot of very good talent and the

1659
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 1: collection all together makes them pretty formidable. So I'm legitimately concerned.

1660
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: We gotta take a break. Dan and Erie Rob in Cleveland.

1661
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: Hang tight, We'll get to you on the other side

1662
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Line, presented by Kalota Health. It's

1663
01:28:53,720 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, let's jump right back on

1664
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: the phones here as we are trying to get your

1665
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 1: assessment on the AFC conference race and the Bills place

1666
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 1: in it. And we're also talking obviously New England, which

1667
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: is coming up on Monday night, as the Patriots will

1668
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: come in here streaking on a six game win streak,

1669
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: now eight and four on the season. And leading us

1670
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: off here in this segment is Dan and Erie. Dan,

1671
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on One Bill's Live. Hey, guys,

1672
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 1: I would certainly feel a tell them a lot better

1673
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: about this game against the Patriots. The Star Littour Lay

1674
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown and John Feliciano. We're back in the lineup.

1675
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 1: Any idea when that might happen, No, not at this point.

1676
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 1: We will probably await the update from coach McDermott. The

1677
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 1: problem is when a player is on the COVID reserve list,

1678
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 1: a coach really can't comment on his status. It's part

1679
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 1: of a league rule, presumably it was collectively bargained with

1680
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 1: the players Association right to privacy, whatever you want to

1681
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: call it, so they can't comment on a player's status

1682
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 1: while on the COVID reserve list. It's similar to the

1683
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 1: concussion protocol. When you got a guy in concussion protocol,

1684
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 1: they can't comment on him either. So we're really kind

1685
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 1: of in the dark as to the likelihood of their return.

1686
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 1: What we do know is this Okay star Latoula went

1687
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 1: on the COVID reserve list the day of the Jets

1688
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 1: game a couple of weeks ago, so he has now

1689
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: gone two full weeks on COVID reserve, which means he

1690
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: presumably still has symptoms. You have to be symptom free

1691
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: or test negative twice in a row before you can

1692
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 1: get off the COVID reserve list. And then Spencer Brown

1693
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 1: popped up on the COVID reserve list. I want to

1694
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 1: say it was a week effective Thanksgiving. He went on

1695
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 1: Thursday before Thanksgiving I think was when he went on

1696
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: the COVID reserve list, and so at least ten days

1697
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 1: there that would take him through the weekend. So well,

1698
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: hopefully we can get an update, but like I'm telling you, Dan,

1699
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:18,800
Speaker 1: it's hard to get it. When they're on the COVID

1700
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 1: reserve list, coaches can't comment on their status. John Feliciano

1701
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 1: is a different situation, but as of right now, he's

1702
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 1: still on IR. We'll probably find out more Wednesday at

1703
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 1: the coach's regular media session. Yeah, we'll see. Certainly having

1704
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 1: those three back in the lineup would be a welcome edition.

1705
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 1: I think it would give the offensive line a bit

1706
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 1: more of an edge. Not only that, it would get

1707
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: Darryl Williams back in what many believe to be his

1708
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:52,639
Speaker 1: most suitable position, right guard, because that would mean Spencer

1709
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 1: Brown would be back at right tackle. And Feliciano had

1710
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 1: a calf injury. That that is a tough injury for alignment.

1711
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 1: It's really got to be one hundred percent healthy so

1712
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 1: as to not risk re injury. You got a three

1713
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 1: hundred pound man driving off the ball and he's got

1714
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 1: a three hundred pound man leaning on him. You want

1715
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 1: to talk about putting a lot of torque on your

1716
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: calves and your achilles. They're doing it on every single play,

1717
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 1: sixty plays a game. So easier said than done to

1718
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,520
Speaker 1: come back from that kind of injury. Usually the maximum

1719
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: of injury like that is three week, three full weeks,

1720
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 1: and then you can before you were actually able to

1721
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 1: go out and just do a one hundred percent. Then,

1722
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 1: however long it takes, you get strong, your your sharpness back,

1723
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:37,759
Speaker 1: you know, there you go. But like we've also said

1724
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 1: in the run up to that, he can still you know,

1725
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 1: he can still lift up her body, can still do

1726
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 1: some some things exercise wise, although you know obviously he

1727
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:51,719
Speaker 1: can't do anything on his feet. So yeah, and plus

1728
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 1: he'll be at all the meetings. It's not like they're

1729
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 1: gonna put things in the offense that he hasn't heard

1730
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: anything about. He's in the building. The problem with the

1731
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,799
Speaker 1: COVID guys is they can't even be around and everything

1732
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:02,679
Speaker 1: they do is virtual, and that's a little more difficult

1733
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:06,560
Speaker 1: to stay sharp. And you know, if they were symptomatic

1734
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 1: and if they were unvaccinated, you'll wonder if and when

1735
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 1: they do get off the COVID reserve list, how effective

1736
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,879
Speaker 1: will they be. What's their level of conditioning. How serious

1737
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:22,680
Speaker 1: were their respiratory issues? I mean, I still remember Von

1738
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 1: Miller talking about it last year when he came back.

1739
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: He said his wind and conditioning, it wasn't right for

1740
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 1: a month. So it affects everybody differently, as we know.

1741
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: So we're just gonna have to cross our fingers and

1742
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 1: hope those guys are back sooner rather than later. Ideally

1743
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 1: for this game coming up on Monday night, we have

1744
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: to take a break here, but when we come back,

1745
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 1: we'll be joined by former Patriots linebacker Matt Chatham, who

1746
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 1: is also an NFL analyst. You can get the four

1747
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 1: to one one on the Patriots after their most recent

1748
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 1: win over the Tennessee tightens up at Gillette yesterday. Back

1749
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 1: with that in our number three neck Steer on one

1750
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1751
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the field.

1752
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

1753
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

1754
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 1: in the strategere of normalcy alright, hour number three on

1755
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,879
Speaker 1: a Monday Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you is always

1756
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 1: and pleased to be joined now by former Patriots linebacker,

1757
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 1: three times Super Bowl champ and current Patriots analyst for

1758
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 1: the New England Sports Network. It is one Matt Chat.

1759
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:56,559
Speaker 1: I'm joining us on the line. Matt, could to have

1760
01:34:56,600 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 1: you with us. Do you have a good Thanksgiving? I did?

1761
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 1: It was excellent. Uh, and I think the last of

1762
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 1: the leftovers just went to bed last night, so Fresh

1763
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 1: Start got to lose all the way we were we

1764
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:10,680
Speaker 1: were saying today's cutoff day for leftovers. They gotta go

1765
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 1: in the garbage yet so is it the deadline day

1766
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 1: for that? So you guys are ahead of the game

1767
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:18,600
Speaker 1: for sure. Um, we wanted to to start with the

1768
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 1: game yesterday. Um, you know against the Titans. Granted a

1769
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:28,560
Speaker 1: shorthanded Titans team, but they roll up two hundred and

1770
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:32,560
Speaker 1: seventy rushing yards on the Patriots. What was what was

1771
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 1: your view of what was working so well for that

1772
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 1: Titans ground game? We obviously know they lost the game,

1773
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 1: turned it over four times and it killed him. But

1774
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 1: what what what is a foot there in terms of

1775
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 1: the run defense for the Patriots. Yeah, so they're not

1776
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 1: quite that dramatic as stat but earlier in the year,

1777
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 1: there was a couple of games. There were a couple

1778
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 1: of games too were you in high hundreds and you're thinking,

1779
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,799
Speaker 1: oh gosh, you know, that's there's an issue with run defense.

1780
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I kind of learned,

1781
01:35:57,320 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, watching Bill, not just from the time being there,

1782
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 1: but watching him over the course of these last sort

1783
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 1: of eleven years of doing the analyst thing is the

1784
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 1: way they sort of dramatically change approach week a week

1785
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 1: if there is an issue, and that sometimes there's a

1786
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 1: concession in the approach, which is going to garner more

1787
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 1: yards in one area the other I think they gave

1788
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 1: up something like eighty one passing yards. And one of

1789
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 1: the things that tends to happen to Grant This isn't

1790
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 1: defending that it was a good day of run defense.

1791
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 1: It was poor. It still needed to be much better

1792
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 1: than that, even with the choices they made. But I

1793
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 1: think there's often sort of a handoff here. It's like,

1794
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's not even necessarily lighter boxes, it's choices

1795
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: in personnel, the configuration you're going to work with, knowing

1796
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 1: and that they were massively depleted in the receiving corps,

1797
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 1: you know, bringing guys up off practice squad, not having

1798
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,640
Speaker 1: a j Brown or Julio. It really became sort of

1799
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 1: a top down approach and it wasn't like all hands

1800
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 1: on deck, we got to stop the run. That wasn't it.

1801
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 1: That said, even when you choose that approach, you don't

1802
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 1: want to get that dramatic. But as you mentioned, they

1803
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: turned the ball over. But as it would relate to

1804
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 1: the Bills, I would imagine it's gonna beet dramatic, a

1805
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: dramatic shifting approach. The kinds of fronts and the people

1806
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 1: or that anim that will see next week, right, they've

1807
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 1: got to This defense is completely revamped from the last

1808
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 1: time the Bill saw them on Monday Night last year.

1809
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 1: And it starts, I think probably in their front seven.

1810
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 1: Don't you tell us about the transformation. They're the guys

1811
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: they got back, the guys they've added. Yeah, Devin got

1812
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 1: Chaw is a nose and they didn't have a true

1813
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: knows a year ago. Carl Davis is another big that

1814
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 1: was sort of a fine late last season that's been

1815
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: a real nice, complimentary player for them. Christian Barmow the

1816
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 1: barmore they got early in the second round. There was

1817
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 1: sort of a found Gold type situation, very disruptive big

1818
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:34,640
Speaker 1: in the front again, body type like that what they

1819
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: didn't have a season ago. Obviously, that kind of talks

1820
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 1: through sort of your middle core portion, none of whom

1821
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 1: was a part of last season. And then he added

1822
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 1: Matt Judon on the edge, and Matt is just you know,

1823
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 1: I think he's having sort of defensive player of the

1824
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,560
Speaker 1: Year type kind of candidac season. The other thing that

1825
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 1: wasn't a part that you know, Bill's fans will remember

1826
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 1: from a year ago. They just had the opt outs

1827
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 1: and Dante hi Tower was one of the big ones

1828
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:00,560
Speaker 1: of those. But then they also Kyle Vannoy's down in

1829
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 1: South Beach at the time, so they returned Kyle, they

1830
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: returned Dante. You get Matt jude On, the other names

1831
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 1: I mentioned in the port and the bigs in the front,

1832
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 1: and then even at in you know some other guys

1833
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: on the back end that are just sort of like

1834
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 1: fill in pieces, Jalen Mills, who wasn't there. So, yeah,

1835
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 1: the front sevens different, but really the whole of the

1836
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 1: defense looked a lot different than what we're used to.

1837
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 1: And then I mean they spent a lot of money

1838
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 1: too on the offensive side of the ball, particularly in

1839
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 1: the passing game after they had only eight passing touchdowns

1840
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 1: last season with Cam Newton at quarterback, they knew they

1841
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 1: had to do something there. I think Kendrick Bourne kind

1842
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 1: of flew under the radar as a signing because he

1843
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: wasn't a household name. I mean, he wasn't even in

1844
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 1: the top three receivers out in San Francisco. But he

1845
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 1: comes in and he along with Jacoby Myers, have kind

1846
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,679
Speaker 1: of been the top two targets among the receiving corps.

1847
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 1: What has it been about Born that has allowed his

1848
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 1: game to flourish. He's an energy guy. He's a William

1849
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: Blocker type, and I think it's really big thing that

1850
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 1: you have to be a part of willing to do

1851
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:05,560
Speaker 1: basically to persist in sort of repcounts here with this

1852
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 1: particular offense. But his run after the catch has been excellent.

1853
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 1: You know, several of his big places this year aren't

1854
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 1: necessarily plays began as verticals, but shorter underneath routes like

1855
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 1: you're seeing there in your screen, where he's just sort

1856
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 1: of catch and run, And that's really what he's been.

1857
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: He's been sort of the juice in the offense at

1858
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:26,560
Speaker 1: points where they needed a spark, and I don't know

1859
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,600
Speaker 1: that they necessarily anticipated it would have gone as well

1860
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: as it did. You know, you hope that you get

1861
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 1: a percentage better than what you saw in San Francisco.

1862
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 1: I think Nelson agilor relative to his contract may have

1863
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 1: been presumed possibly to provide more like what Kendricks has

1864
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 1: given them, But it's just sort of a nice complimentary

1865
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 1: Nelson has still been contributing to his own right, and

1866
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 1: as you mentioned with Jacoby Myers, he sort of slided

1867
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:50,599
Speaker 1: in as that mister steady. He can be a three

1868
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 1: or four catch guy one wake orn eight or nine

1869
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 1: the next. And as of course, the story coming out

1870
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 1: of New England, all it all centers around Mac Jones.

1871
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 1: And I think I've said it on this show. It

1872
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 1: seems like New should really write the book on how

1873
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 1: to handle a young quarterback and support him in the

1874
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 1: right ways get the most out of his abilities. Mac

1875
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 1: Jones certainly fits what they want out of him, no question,

1876
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 1: But how has he grown and gotten better as the

1877
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 1: season has rolled on. I mean, this is a guy

1878
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: that's really playing at a high level for a young player. Yeah,

1879
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 1: I would say Sunday's game is actually a pretty good

1880
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 1: example of what you want from a young guy that

1881
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 1: you don't often get from a young quarterback. And he's

1882
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 1: just sacked twice. He certainly didn't have a perfect day,

1883
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 1: but I think what he's done a better job of it.

1884
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 1: There's no turnovers there in the moments that he gets sacks.

1885
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:37,639
Speaker 1: It's not the retreat portion where he ended up twelve

1886
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 1: and fifteen yards down the field. He sort of has

1887
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 1: a knack for no one when the play is dead

1888
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 1: and sort of getting rid of it. That doesn't mean

1889
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 1: that there art steel occasionally mistakes, but separate from sort

1890
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 1: of being a little bit risk averse to begin with.

1891
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 1: And you saw yesterday lots of crossing routes, a lot

1892
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:53,599
Speaker 1: of flat work, a lot of work to the backs

1893
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: and tight ends and things along that line. He also

1894
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 1: does a really nice job in the event of a mistake,

1895
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 1: which which all pros have better other He hasn't been

1896
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 1: a tank guy, which I think is really unusual for

1897
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:05,600
Speaker 1: young guy. You see that where you get in the

1898
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 1: guys said, you have a couple of bad quarters in

1899
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 1: a row. A lot of his best play this season,

1900
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:13,560
Speaker 1: curiously enough, has come after a mistake. So he's a

1901
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: right the ship guy. You real good frame of mind

1902
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:18,919
Speaker 1: type dude, and I can imagine I certainly didn't experiencing

1903
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 1: them like this. But having gone through college with the

1904
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 1: Knick Sabe and you know, the screw as tight as

1905
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 1: they could ever be for a college player, and then

1906
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:28,600
Speaker 1: transitioning right into Bill, I mean, you're going to be

1907
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 1: as mentally tough as a person possibly could going through

1908
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 1: that particular wash. So I think he's built for this. Yeah.

1909
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:37,000
Speaker 1: Taking it a step further though, if there is one

1910
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 1: area where he struggled within the scope of the offense,

1911
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 1: it's down in the red zone. I mean there touchdown

1912
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 1: efficiency isn't very high at all. I think they're in

1913
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 1: the bottom third in the league. Again, yesterday was another

1914
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 1: example of that. I mean Nick Folk is far and

1915
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 1: away the points scoring leader in this league. Do mainly

1916
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:56,440
Speaker 1: to the fact that they can't finish drives with touchdowns.

1917
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 1: What's going on there? Is there just a precision that's

1918
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 1: lacking with a young guy. I would say it's more

1919
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 1: game script and a lot of the things we've seem

1920
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 1: just take it back a lot. The last month. You

1921
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 1: can go to the Carolina game a little bit here

1922
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 1: with Tennessee. Cleveland is comparable when you get these massive

1923
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 1: leads and they've had them early against these teams, especially

1924
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 1: when you're working with a young quarterback. And I think

1925
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 1: in each of those situations, we're talking about offenses that

1926
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 1: were a bit depleted. Sam Darneld was banged up, obviously,

1927
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was coming to his first game without a OBJ,

1928
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 1: and no Nick Chubb yesterday with the Titans. You're talking

1929
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 1: about basically all the receiver's gone to know, Derek Henry,

1930
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,639
Speaker 1: I think the approach rightfully changes when you get into

1931
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 1: the high red or start to advance a little further.

1932
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:38,400
Speaker 1: It's not take shots in the end zone. It's maybe

1933
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 1: not even take the chances you otherwise would because you're

1934
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 1: attempting to win. You've got an excellent defense on the

1935
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 1: other side. Most of the life, the other team can

1936
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 1: help for his turnovers, especially down there. So I do

1937
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 1: think they take I don't love the word, but more

1938
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 1: conservative approach. It's not first down, second down, third down shots.

1939
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 1: It's protect the field goal because you're looking at you know,

1940
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 1: ten and thirteen and then seventeen points spreads where you

1941
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 1: got up a couple scores on those particular opponents. I

1942
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 1: don't think scores were necessary. It was non turnovers. I

1943
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 1: granted that becomes a little different if you're chasing Josh

1944
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 1: Allen and off. Yeah, that was my next question. That's yeah,

1945
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 1: that's not what they've been against thus far. Yeah, okay, Yeah,

1946
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 1: Also that what I was gonna has Bill Belichick over

1947
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 1: the last two years. This team is completely different than

1948
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,680
Speaker 1: what it once was with with Brady and all of that.

1949
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 1: How has has Bilichick? Has Bill changed or transformed or

1950
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:31,639
Speaker 1: done things in a different way than he was able

1951
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:34,120
Speaker 1: to do through the years, even the later years of

1952
01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I mean, how has he evolved as a coach?

1953
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 1: You've seen it. I mean, I mean this is a

1954
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 1: well coached team and he's at the top of it

1955
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:43,600
Speaker 1: all the time. And give us a little rundown on

1956
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 1: not only how Bill Belichick has changed over the last

1957
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 1: couple of years, but maybe his coordinators as well. I

1958
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 1: would say one of the things that's maybe it's what

1959
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 1: you change, it's more maybe reverting back to what work

1960
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:56,640
Speaker 1: best was sort of the built inside out kind of thing.

1961
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 1: And if you would have looked at you know, as

1962
01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 1: the Bills are easily passing the path a year ago

1963
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,719
Speaker 1: and taking the crown they weren't built real strong inside

1964
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 1: out defensively. You know, there wasn't as much investment on

1965
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 1: your bigs. They didn't have the guys, and you have

1966
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 1: like an Ed Oliver up there, and you have a

1967
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 1: star and some of the bigger dudes that really helped

1968
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 1: set the bedrock of a defense. I think going back

1969
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 1: and giving Christian Barmore going in, going after a nose

1970
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:21,479
Speaker 1: and got chow early in free agency, it really that

1971
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 1: old philosophy of you really got to build your front

1972
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 1: from the inside out, front to back. They hadn't had that,

1973
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 1: and I think you almost see them more closer to

1974
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:33,280
Speaker 1: what I recall quite frankly. And you know, Matt Judon

1975
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 1: is obviously a special player, but you did have the

1976
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 1: Willie McGinnis of old. You did have the Mike Rabels,

1977
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 1: sort of the versatile can rush, can drop, can do

1978
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. And they have also found gold

1979
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:47,680
Speaker 1: in the secondary with young guys who were sometimes on herald. J. C.

1980
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: Jackson's having a Pro Bowl type season. Miles Bryant comes

1981
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 1: in as a midyear edition. Adrian Phillips taking a free

1982
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:55,880
Speaker 1: agency a year ago from San Diego is kind of

1983
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 1: fallen into this. Patrick Chung kind of role. So it's

1984
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 1: a lot of just finding creative ways to get there.

1985
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 1: But I think the theme that's that's really trans transcendent

1986
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 1: all these twenty years is versatility. Like I mentioned, the

1987
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 1: stuff you see on tape unfortunate for your Bills player,

1988
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 1: and I experienced this with the Jets. You watch last

1989
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: week's game, you study, you get ready for a game plan,

1990
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 1: and you know you're probably not going to see much

1991
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 1: of that. You'll have to roll back a few weeks

1992
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 1: to find stuff that might be more similar. And then, Matt,

1993
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 1: what about the committee backfield? I mean, that's not new

1994
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,879
Speaker 1: as far as the Patriots are concerned. We've seen committee

1995
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 1: backfields with this group with his team before, but there

1996
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 1: is no James White. Has anybody effectively taken that role

1997
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:40,680
Speaker 1: per se or has that been spread throughout you know,

1998
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 1: the three guys that see the most action, I'd say

1999
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: it's definitely been committee for the past game portion of

2000
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 1: me even a little the past protection from the back Obviously,

2001
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:52,759
Speaker 1: James was the staller for that for years and unfortunately

2002
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 1: got injured. Brandon Bolden has you know, is a name

2003
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: that Bills fans will know more so from special teams

2004
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 1: than than his work as a back, and Brandon's been

2005
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, historic for his particular career. I mean, this

2006
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 1: has been career high stuff for him is as far

2007
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 1: as production, and he's been big in the passing game,

2008
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 1: real good screen guy, real guy, good guy in the flag.

2009
01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 1: He'll pick up litz Is as well, third down runs,

2010
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 1: draw games. He's been a part of all of that.

2011
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 1: But they still have been a little bit difficult to

2012
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 1: pin down week to week because Romandi Stevenson, the nice

2013
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: rookie they've found as well, is he's kind of similar,

2014
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 1: maybe even a little bit more explosive, but less experienced.

2015
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 1: So week to week saying hey, this is the guy

2016
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 1: that you're third down back, this is the guys, these

2017
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 1: are these the guys that will be the traditional carry guys,

2018
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 1: it hasn't been that easy. And you know, for people

2019
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 1: to do fantasy football there there's nothing more frustrated than

2020
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 1: try to figure out what coach Belichick and Josh You're

2021
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 1: going to do week to week with their backs. Yeah,

2022
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 1: aside from Mac Jones, who has been the biggest pleasant

2023
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:52,640
Speaker 1: surprise offensively. Oh that's a great question. Um, you know,

2024
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I would say back to your who

2025
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 1: you started with Kendrick Bourne. I mean, I think when

2026
01:46:57,479 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 1: you when you get these free agency classes and you

2027
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 1: see the big numbers, you kind of presume you'll get

2028
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 1: the most from them. Hunter Henry and Jonas Smith have

2029
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 1: been both excellent, steady. Josh McDaniels has used the phrase

2030
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:11,639
Speaker 1: it's a foundational year. These guys are sort of integrating

2031
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 1: themselves in the system, but you may not see their

2032
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 1: sort of high bar, a sort of productivity, kind of

2033
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 1: figuring out where they fit and where they go. Nelson

2034
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 1: was given the biggest dollars, so you're presuming, hey, this

2035
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 1: guy's gonna fly to the thought maybe be a thousand

2036
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 1: yard guy. He's been good, but he hasn't been targeted

2037
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 1: that much to getting towhere near that. Kendrick is sort

2038
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 1: of the one that was maybe second tier free agent

2039
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 1: guy that's been more of a front of the room

2040
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 1: kind of producers. So I'd give him the biggest surprise.

2041
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 1: But I think it's pleasant in that they spent that

2042
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 1: much money and they've really made use of all the

2043
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 1: guys that they went out and got. So Matt just

2044
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 1: looking at this game coming up on Monday night. The

2045
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:50,679
Speaker 1: concern here in Buffalo is Buffalo has had their share

2046
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:54,720
Speaker 1: of problems with physical fronts, whether it's Pittsburgh in Week

2047
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 1: one and their defensive front Tennessee when they still had

2048
01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and their offensive front, and then the Colts

2049
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, you know, ran roughshot over

2050
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:07,760
Speaker 1: their defense. I think people would put, you know, New

2051
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:10,240
Speaker 1: England's offense in that category with the way they're able

2052
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 1: to run the football. I want to flip it around

2053
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 1: for you, though, Matt, what would you say is an

2054
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 1: advantage that you think the Bills have in this matchup

2055
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 1: against the Patriots where they may not just measure up

2056
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 1: quite so high. I don't know about measure up, but

2057
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:27,320
Speaker 1: I like what Dable has as far as versatility, and

2058
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 1: those are the groups that will give you more trouble

2059
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 1: in that. You know, I'm just a day into this,

2060
01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: but I think maybe my views on this will evolve

2061
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 1: as the week goes. But you know, they're a team

2062
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 1: that I think it just you know, from catching him

2063
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,599
Speaker 1: a few times on national games this year and then

2064
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 1: starting to look a little bit like there, I'm a

2065
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,840
Speaker 1: little uncertain to what their intentions are in the run game.

2066
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:50,799
Speaker 1: You know, I have a high opinion of Devin Singletary,

2067
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 1: but he's just not been a high touch guy, even

2068
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 1: Zach Moss at times. And Britta is just the track

2069
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 1: guy that can blow a game up, and I think

2070
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,599
Speaker 1: he has sort of a game plan and manage much

2071
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 1: much like you know Josh often does by changing things

2072
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:05,960
Speaker 1: up so much, because they can be so different. I mean,

2073
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 1: you get shot plays out of Gabriel Davis in a minute,

2074
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 1: it could be a heavy Emmanuel Sanders day. I don't

2075
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:14,680
Speaker 1: think necessarily if J. C. Jackson and Diggs go at

2076
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,840
Speaker 1: it for sixty plays and Digs ends up with four

2077
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 1: catches in thirty five yards, I don't think that means

2078
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 1: that the Bills lose. So I think that's I think

2079
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 1: their versatility, you know, knocks being a big contributor here

2080
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 1: over the last month and really ascending. They're a team,

2081
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 1: and I got all the way down the listener didn't

2082
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:32,719
Speaker 1: even mention Beasley. But you've got four or five different

2083
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 1: guys who can have huge days and they can still win, right,

2084
01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 1: So it's not like a team where gosh, if you

2085
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 1: take away Stefon Diggs, you beat the Bills, or if

2086
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 1: you will completely eliminate the running game you're guaranteed to

2087
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 1: win against them. I don't think that's the case, and

2088
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:47,560
Speaker 1: that's what makes them a tough matchup. But there's a

2089
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 1: possibility here that the Pats and Bills will play three times.

2090
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's almost like sitting on the front end

2091
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 1: of the trilogy and knowing, whatever happens this week, we

2092
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:56,759
Speaker 1: may still get to see it again and it'll probably

2093
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 1: different the next time. So I think that's why you

2094
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:02,760
Speaker 1: respect an opponent like that, because could happen any given

2095
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 1: Sunday and they could give it right back to you.

2096
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 1: Last one for me, and let's go back to one

2097
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:08,639
Speaker 1: of the guys we've already talked about, just to put

2098
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 1: a period at the end of the sentence. Ju Don

2099
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 1: has been and what we think maybe the best free

2100
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 1: agent signing in all of football. The way he has

2101
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:19,680
Speaker 1: fit their scheme, the way he's played with highly motivated

2102
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 1: and been so productive. How has he has he allowed

2103
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 1: them to do defensively that maybe they wouldn't have been

2104
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 1: able to do without him, or maybe even a year ago,

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Speaker 1: without all the guys around him. Yeah, So matt Is

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Speaker 1: is a really rare guy. I think his body type

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Speaker 1: reminds me the most of like Jason Taylor, which you

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Speaker 1: know in our division, we would obviously that name would

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Speaker 1: resonate in so much that he's not thick. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's not heavy. He reminds me almost a little bit

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Speaker 1: like a small forward body, kind of thin, hiped, but

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Speaker 1: incredibly strong. Even though he doesn't have the thickness. His

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Speaker 1: hands are tremendous. You watch it again, you're not talking

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Speaker 1: about a two sixty two seven the outside linebacker slash end.

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01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:05,599
Speaker 1: He's let he's thin, and he presses and sets edges

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Speaker 1: incredibly and obviously he's got the natural ability to rush,

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Speaker 1: and he's been an absolute disruptor throughout the season. But

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Speaker 1: the one thing that's unique with him is you can

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Speaker 1: mention all those things, but the stuff that Bill likes

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Speaker 1: as well is sort of the smart, smart football players

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01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,719
Speaker 1: stuff where you'll see him pre snap pointing out pullers

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01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 1: or checking out schemes and stuff and just running to

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01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:26,920
Speaker 1: the point of attack as if he's studied really well.

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Speaker 1: There have been games, I believe it was the Bucks game,

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01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 1: maybe a little as it was the Bucks game, I believe,

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01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 1: where Matt ended up as a dropper as much as

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01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 1: he was a rusher, and that versatility that he can

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01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:40,599
Speaker 1: go down and really be he can just rush across

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Speaker 1: sort of the face of the defense and not just

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01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 1: have to be a rusher down after down. That's really

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Speaker 1: what they love, Patriots. Anlis from the new England Sports

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Speaker 1: Network match Chat. I'm joining us, Matt. Listen. We thank

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01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:51,800
Speaker 1: you for all the input here. We feel a little

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01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 1: bit better prepared for the Monday night game. So thanks

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01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:56,799
Speaker 1: for giving us the four one one on the Patriot

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01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,040
Speaker 1: should be a huge Well, it's a huge game as

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01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 1: far as the AFC conference race is concerned, the division

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01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 1: race is concerned, and as you mentioned, it's only the

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Speaker 1: first of two and who knows, maybe even three. So

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01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 1: thanks for utting some light on the Patriots. We appreciate shade, Matt, Thanks, thanks,

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Speaker 1: Rob me On guys, take care all right, Matt Yet

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Speaker 1: and former Patriots linebacker Karen Patriots analyst for Nesson as

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01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 1: they call it up there England Sports Network, and he's

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01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 1: just diving into it himself. I was asking him for

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01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 1: an advantage where he sees the Bills having a leg up,

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01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 1: and he went with versatility, which I think is a

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01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 1: good answer. Yeah, they've got enough guys to do it.

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01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 1: If I think that was always the problem in the past,

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01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 1: Wasn't it like the Patriots shut off the what the

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01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: Bills do best and they didn't have a CounterPunch. Right,

2151
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 1: It also comes no question Cole Beasley, Steph Diggs, Dawson

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01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 1: Knox now in the mix, with the running backs, whoever,

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01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders. They've got enough weapons on the outside. The

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01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 1: question is gonna be just can Josh find him and

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01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:57,719
Speaker 1: can the Patriots do enough in the secondary to fool

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01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 1: Josh and the thrown into the wrong guy, or can

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01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 1: the Bills protect him well enough with Matt Judon on

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01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:07,320
Speaker 1: the outside bringing some pressure. That's what this game is

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01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 1: gonna come down to. Can they keep Josh cleaning the pocket?

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01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 1: Can the Bills offensive line step up to the play

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01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 1: play physical, get enough of a run game, allow Josh

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01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 1: Allen and the receivers to make enough plays outside. Can

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01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 1: they get it going in the run game? All of

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01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:21,720
Speaker 1: that stuff. It starts up front, and we don't know

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Speaker 1: what their offensive line is gonna look like yet or

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01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 1: how you know effective John Feliciano, Spencer Brown are going

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01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:32,640
Speaker 1: to be if they're in If indeed they're back on

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01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:36,479
Speaker 1: the field, That's what it boils down to. I think

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Speaker 1: offensively for the Bills is the fact that they can't

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Speaker 1: they can't turn it over, and they've got to be

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01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 1: because if they don't turn it over and they can

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01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:48,840
Speaker 1: protect Josh Allen, they're tough. They're really tough to beat,

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Speaker 1: even for a team that doesn't make very many mistakes

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01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:53,639
Speaker 1: like New England. We'll probably delve into this more as

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01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 1: the week wears on. I didn't know if you notice

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01:53:56,520 --> 01:54:00,600
Speaker 1: this in case people aren't aware. By virtue of New

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01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 1: England's win over the Titans yesterday, they are now the

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Speaker 1: number two seed, replacing the Bills, who slipped to the

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Speaker 1: sixth seed. Because New England now has eight victories, they

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01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 1: have not had their bye week yet, they've played one

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01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 1: more game than the Bills, so they're eight wins puts

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Speaker 1: them in the two spot, and the Bills are in

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01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,920
Speaker 1: the six spot. At seven and four, Cincinnati gets the

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01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 1: five spot because they've got a five and two conference record.

2185
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 1: Bills have a five and four conference rate, which brings

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Speaker 1: me to my next point, Steve, have you looked at

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Speaker 1: New England's conference record lately? They're actually pretty good in

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01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 1: the conference six and one. Yeah, that doesn't mean a

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01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:38,440
Speaker 1: hill of beans if the Bills and the Patriots are

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01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 1: tied in the division at the end of the year

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01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:46,560
Speaker 1: for the top spot, because the tiebreakers differ when dealing

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Speaker 1: with a team that is within your division. Tiebreakers were

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01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:58,280
Speaker 1: team teams within a division. First is head to head

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01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:04,959
Speaker 1: record five hellowed by division record. The Bills are currently

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Speaker 1: three and o in the division and the Patriots are

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01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 1: two and one. If you can beat the Patriots this week,

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Speaker 1: drop them to two and two in the division, and

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Speaker 1: you improved to four and oh, that gives you the

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Speaker 1: inside track to the division right now. You obviously have

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01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 1: to play them again, and you have to finish strong

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01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:30,000
Speaker 1: against the Jets in Week eighteen. But the worst you

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01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:33,080
Speaker 1: can do division record for the Bills if you beat

2203
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots Monday night is four and two, and at

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01:55:36,160 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 1: that point, the absolute best the Patriots could do would

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01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 1: be four and two in the division if that happens.

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01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 1: So that gives me some optimism if they can pull

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01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 1: that off in terms of winning the division. I think

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01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 1: they put themselves on the inside track to win the division. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: they got to take care of their last five games,

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01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:57,560
Speaker 1: but I'm saying in the event of tiebreakers and things

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01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:02,480
Speaker 1: like that, division record could be very important. Knowing that

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01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 1: comes up quickly when dealing with you know, somebody you're

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01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 1: tied with that's in your own division. Yeah, it's it's

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01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:11,600
Speaker 1: the simple way is just to win your games. Um,

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01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 1: that's amen to that. That's the path, and that's what

2216
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 1: the Bills are looking at the Patriots and their their

2217
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 1: schedule remaining. Um, of course we know what we know

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01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 1: what the Bills is. But the Patriots schedule remaining comes

2219
01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 1: down to, you know, the Bills twice and the Colts.

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01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:33,280
Speaker 1: Then they've got Jacksonville in Miami. Miami's playing a lot

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01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 1: better right now, they are, and they usually usually split

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01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 1: with New England at well, they already beat him once

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01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 1: by a point. Um, So yeah, the Bills need to

2224
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 1: do their thing with the with the Patriots. Um, they

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01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 1: need to sweep the Patriots to secure the division, because

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01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 1: you can't think the Patriots are going to play worse

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01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 1: down the stretch. They're getting better. The Bills have got

2228
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 1: to get back on track. The Bills have been too

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01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 1: wildly inconsistent. That's been the thing. I think in the

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01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:05,760
Speaker 1: big picture, Brownie, I think we've seen this. The Bills

2231
01:57:05,800 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 1: are talented, more talented team they've got better playmakers on

2232
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 1: the outside offensively that their top end is higher than

2233
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 1: the Patriots is right now because of Josh and on

2234
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:19,240
Speaker 1: the offense and all of that, But their floor is

2235
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 1: also worse because they've been playing widely and consistent. They've

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01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:24,640
Speaker 1: turned the football over and their penalties have been a

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01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:27,120
Speaker 1: problem throughout the season. That's never been a problem for

2238
01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and they don't turn the football over, So

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01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 1: their floor is much higher than the Bills has been.

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Speaker 1: Can the Bills play put together a really good game

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01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:39,040
Speaker 1: for sixty minutes. If they can, they're gonna win. Here

2242
01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 1: is this might surprise you. I mean, you know that

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01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:46,560
Speaker 1: their play has been uneven for a stretch here. Since

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01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:52,480
Speaker 1: Week five, they have traded wins for losses week over

2245
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 1: week win loss, win, loss, win, loss win seven weeks.

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01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 1: They have not stacked wins in two months. Yeah, you

2247
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:09,960
Speaker 1: need to fix that. That's not what consistent teams do.

2248
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 1: They stack wins. And that's exactly what Josh said after

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01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 1: the game on Thursday night. Look, we're glad we got

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01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 1: this win, but now it's all about stacking them right,

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01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:21,920
Speaker 1: and it's got to start this week. And what arguably

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01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 1: is your most important game of the year to this point,

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01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:28,040
Speaker 1: as far as division implications are concerned, as far as

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01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 1: conference implications are concerned. If if I'll tell you this,

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Speaker 1: if the Bills sweep, if the Bills can win two

2256
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 1: against the Patriots, they're going to be there. They'll be

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01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,320
Speaker 1: playing well enough to win. They'll get the one seed.

2258
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 1: Because Baltimore's got Pittsburgh this next week, they go back

2259
01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 1: to Cleveland, they got green Bay, they have Cincinnati, they

2260
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 1: got the Rams and the Steelers. Again, somebody saying Baltimore

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01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 1: does have the toughest Baltimore's crushing schedule. Not to say

2262
01:58:57,520 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 1: if they're not good enough to win all those games

2263
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 1: on their own, but to put that many good games

2264
01:59:01,400 --> 01:59:03,560
Speaker 1: together is really going to be difficult without having something

2265
01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 1: bad happening. And they're not playing good offensive football right now.

2266
01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 1: Right Tennessee has lost two in a row. Now, Kansas City,

2267
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 1: that's a different animal as well. They're getting back into

2268
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:16,200
Speaker 1: the satell as we all know, host the Broncos on

2269
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football, that's right, and so Kansas City getting

2270
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:23,480
Speaker 1: back on top of things coming They're coming off a

2271
01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 1: bye this last week, so they're gonna come off the

2272
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 1: by and then they're gonna head to Denver Vegas, the Chargers,

2273
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:36,640
Speaker 1: the Steelers, the Bengals, and the Broncos again, so not

2274
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:40,840
Speaker 1: easy for the Chiefs as well. They've got three home

2275
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:43,840
Speaker 1: and three away. They go to the Chargers, they go

2276
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:47,400
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati late in the year in January, and they

2277
01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 1: go to Denver for Week eighteen. So yeah, the Bills.

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01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:57,320
Speaker 1: It all hinges to me on the series with the Patriots, now, right,

2279
01:59:57,400 --> 01:59:59,880
Speaker 1: that's where this comes, This whole, this whole shooting match comes.

2280
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Speaker 1: I say this, the Patriots and the Bills are two

2281
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Speaker 1: playoff teams. They're playing like it. They're talented enough and

2282
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:10,280
Speaker 1: they're yeah, they're just playing well enough, even on the

2283
02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:12,760
Speaker 1: down weeks, they're playing well enough to be in the

2284
02:00:12,800 --> 02:00:15,400
Speaker 1: playoffs this year. It's going to come down to the

2285
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Speaker 1: series they have against each other, which one gets the

2286
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:20,200
Speaker 1: better seed and the one seat is there for both

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Speaker 1: of them. And while we know that the game between

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02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:26,680
Speaker 1: the Bills and the Patriots will have enormous implications on

2289
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Speaker 1: the conference race and the division race, they're not the

2290
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Speaker 1: only matchups this coming weekend that will turn this jumble

2291
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Speaker 1: into a veritable disaster. We'll tell you what some of

2292
02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:42,560
Speaker 1: the other matchups with huge AFC implications are coming up

2293
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Speaker 1: don't know if the Patriots you can give one up

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Speaker 1: this year. We will take a look and see if

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Speaker 1: that is in fact true in a second, or you

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Speaker 1: can do that right now. While I give everyone this

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Speaker 1: Bill's Patriots is in the only game with giant AFC implications.

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Speaker 1: The other teams in the American Football Conference will be

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Speaker 1: doing battle against each other as well, particularly the AFC

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Speaker 1: North and the AFC West. Here's what is in store.

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Speaker 1: The six and five LA Chargers will travel to Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: and take on the seven and four Bengals after their

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Speaker 1: routing of the Steelers. That's on That's a one o'clock

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Speaker 1: game on Sunday. Then Baltimore at Pittsburgh and a big

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Speaker 1: divisional tilt in the AFC North. The Ravens at the

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Speaker 1: top of the conference at eight and three playing the five,

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Speaker 1: five and one Steelers. It doesn't even sound right to

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Speaker 1: mention the tie. That's the four twenty five window game.

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Speaker 1: That's probably we're probably gonna get that game. We'll probably

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Speaker 1: get that game, no, when we don't have bills on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: and then the Sunday Night Affair features the streaking Chiefs

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02:03:17,600 --> 02:03:21,320
Speaker 1: coming off Chiefs coming off the by, coming off the

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Speaker 1: by after winning four straight winning streaks. Yes, um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're not thought they were naked. No, we're not doing that. Um,

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Speaker 1: that would be a whole other kind of football game,

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Speaker 1: believe me. The Chiefs. The Chiefs will be hosting the

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Speaker 1: six and five Denver Broncos. So the AFC West right now,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are seven and four, the Broncos, the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: and the Chargers are all six and five. I mean,

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02:03:50,240 --> 02:03:54,760
Speaker 1: that is tight with six games to play. Can't the

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02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:57,160
Speaker 1: Chargers have got a two and one conference record, Chiefs

2341
02:03:57,240 --> 02:04:00,960
Speaker 1: one and one, Vegas one and two, Denver one and one.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's yeah, it's a schmozzle. Yeah, and that

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02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 1: is the can't wait. And that's not right. That's the

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Speaker 1: division record for the teams. Yeah, that's what you said.

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02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. The conference record Chiefs are two and four. Yes,

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02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:17,360
Speaker 1: the Bills, the Chiefs, and the Browns, before this past

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02:04:17,400 --> 02:04:20,520
Speaker 1: week's game, were the only AFC teams in playoff contention

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Speaker 1: with four conference losses. The Browns now have five conference

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02:04:25,280 --> 02:04:28,560
Speaker 1: losses and they might be belly up here in one

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Speaker 1: more week. I don't know, it's not probably worth going

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02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:33,320
Speaker 1: back and look, but man, oh man, think you've got

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Speaker 1: twelve thirteen teams twelve teen Hold on, let me just

2353
02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:39,000
Speaker 1: make sure this is right and refresh this page because

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get this wrong. There are ten teams,

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Speaker 1: eleven teams with six wins, eleven teams with six wins,

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Speaker 1: thirteen with five wins with six games to play. So

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Speaker 1: let me ask you, Steve, that's unbelievable. Where have all

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Speaker 1: the dominant teams gone in the NFL? Where have they got? Huh, well,

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02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:04,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe give gone to the NFC. They

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02:05:04,440 --> 02:05:06,440
Speaker 1: got two nine and three, got a nine in two,

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02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:09,680
Speaker 1: Arizona nine and three, Green Green Bay, Tampa's eight and three.

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02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:11,960
Speaker 1: Everybody else is seven to four to seven four. Yeah,

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02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:14,920
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty much a distribution. Over in the NFC

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Speaker 1: they got they also have ten and one or eleven

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02:05:17,720 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 1: and one teams, though they also they have eleven teams

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Speaker 1: with five wins, but they got two teams with nine,

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02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:24,720
Speaker 1: so those teams aren't catching up. But in the AFC,

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02:05:24,920 --> 02:05:27,600
Speaker 1: you get the feeling that there's team like Indianapolis at

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02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:30,720
Speaker 1: the ten seed. Right now, you get the feeling they're

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02:05:30,760 --> 02:05:34,280
Speaker 1: gonna go eleven and six almost. You know, the people

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Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, we feel that they're gonna make a

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Speaker 1: run for it. Denver just beat the Chargers. The Chargers

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02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:45,440
Speaker 1: are in the playoffs. Even after yesterday's game, the Charges

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02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:51,640
Speaker 1: are ahead of Denver. Vegas is in between them. That yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's rough. It's fun though, I just got well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is exactly what the nf fell wants.

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02:06:01,240 --> 02:06:05,440
Speaker 1: They want absolutely and utter parody, where every team and

2378
02:06:05,560 --> 02:06:07,440
Speaker 1: the fan base of every team feels like, hey, we

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02:06:07,480 --> 02:06:10,600
Speaker 1: got a shot at this, and they do. And maybe

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Speaker 1: this year, more than any other year I could remember,

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02:06:13,640 --> 02:06:15,960
Speaker 1: you can make an argument for your team. Miami's a

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02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:19,240
Speaker 1: game out of the playoffs at four and seven, five

2383
02:06:19,320 --> 02:06:21,160
Speaker 1: and seven, five and seven, they've won four in a row,

2384
02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:23,760
Speaker 1: five and seven. They are one game out of the playoffs,

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02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:27,480
Speaker 1: and they're the thirteen seed. With seven teams going to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, they're the thirteen seed and they're one game out.

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Speaker 1: Miraculous that here's they got something to play for Week eighteen. Oh,

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02:06:39,120 --> 02:06:42,200
Speaker 1: you're already lining up the Patriots Dolphins week game. We

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Speaker 1: needed it. When they need to sweep the Patriots, they

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Speaker 1: need to sweep the Patriots. Um, let's get to the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet, which is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

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Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Following

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Speaker 1: Sunday slate of games, what's your thoughts on the AFC,

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02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:00,600
Speaker 1: Jack says, My thought is I'm all of that scar

2395
02:07:00,720 --> 02:07:04,480
Speaker 1: tissue inspired anxiety about the hoodie and those clowns from Foxborough.

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02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:07,360
Speaker 1: How will we stop them? How will we counter the

2397
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:11,600
Speaker 1: mad scientists taking away what we do best? Ugh, I'm nervous. Also,

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02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:14,040
Speaker 1: no one else in the AFC scares me at all.

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02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:21,320
Speaker 1: They are all flawed deeply. Yeah, Dinah says, there are

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02:07:21,400 --> 02:07:23,320
Speaker 1: still a lot of games left. No one seems to

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02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:25,200
Speaker 1: have a lock on the playoffs. Says if yet, we

2402
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:27,000
Speaker 1: need to get better and stay better if we are

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Speaker 1: to have a chance of a run. That's what I

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02:07:28,680 --> 02:07:31,880
Speaker 1: was saying, Dinah. The last seven games win loss, win, loss,

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02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:35,320
Speaker 1: win loss win. Yeah, the turnovers are We've turned the

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Speaker 1: football over entirely too much through those first six games.

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02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:40,600
Speaker 1: Josh Was had like eighteen and two or eighteen and

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02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:42,960
Speaker 1: three interceptions, and one of those interceptions was a tip

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02:07:43,080 --> 02:07:45,600
Speaker 1: pass or something like that. He was he never turned

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02:07:45,640 --> 02:07:47,560
Speaker 1: it over. Now he has begun to do that and

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02:07:47,720 --> 02:07:54,280
Speaker 1: more and almost consistently, and they've been throws where yeah,

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02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:56,400
Speaker 1: he starts to feel hurried, tries to come back his

2413
02:07:56,520 --> 02:07:58,400
Speaker 1: arm like this is one in the in the Saints game.

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02:07:58,480 --> 02:08:00,640
Speaker 1: Last week's army gotten the town trying to come back

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02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:04,080
Speaker 1: lating the down, his arm got jarred in the pocket. Okay,

2416
02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:08,800
Speaker 1: but turning it over has been the issue. That was

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02:08:08,840 --> 02:08:10,920
Speaker 1: his first career turnover in the red zone too, Yes,

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02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:13,080
Speaker 1: it was, yeah, and they got his arm on it.

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02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:20,000
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm a big believer in the Bills being

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02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:22,760
Speaker 1: able to win against anybody if they don't turn it over.

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02:08:23,080 --> 02:08:25,680
Speaker 1: And I think that that is absolutely message one. If

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Speaker 1: I'm Sean McDermott this week, I harp on it until

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02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:31,400
Speaker 1: they get sick of hearing about it, and and I

2424
02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:35,280
Speaker 1: just think that's where it begins and ends. Patriots are

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02:08:35,360 --> 02:08:39,280
Speaker 1: now ahead of the Bills in turnover differential. The Patriots

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02:08:39,320 --> 02:08:43,440
Speaker 1: are a plus ten after yesterday's plus four outing. The

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02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:48,320
Speaker 1: Bills are a plus nine. They've they've moved ahead of them.

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02:08:48,360 --> 02:08:51,720
Speaker 1: Indianapolis still leads to the conference and turnover differential, but

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02:08:51,880 --> 02:08:55,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots are now number two. Bills are now number three.

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02:08:55,320 --> 02:08:59,600
Speaker 1: That's there's your inconsistent play right there. It's it's that's

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02:08:59,680 --> 02:09:01,600
Speaker 1: what's taking them out of them, you know, out of

2432
02:09:01,640 --> 02:09:04,320
Speaker 1: the wind. Callumn on against Jacksonville and not playing well

2433
02:09:04,360 --> 02:09:08,160
Speaker 1: against t minus two against Jacksonville was their turnover margin

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02:09:09,200 --> 02:09:12,480
Speaker 1: and Colts they were minus four or three. I can't

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02:09:12,680 --> 02:09:17,120
Speaker 1: minus three. The Colts had one. Yeah. Yeah, So wolf

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02:09:18,440 --> 02:09:21,160
Speaker 1: Max says, might have to beat the Pats twice to

2437
02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:24,280
Speaker 1: get a favorable seating, and that's more difficult now than

2438
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:27,480
Speaker 1: it one. Seemed way more nervous than I anticipated for

2439
02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:30,040
Speaker 1: this time of year. The AFC is solid all the

2440
02:09:30,080 --> 02:09:32,920
Speaker 1: way around. I can't venture a guess as to how

2441
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:35,520
Speaker 1: this playoff picture plays out. Now you can roll the

2442
02:09:35,560 --> 02:09:38,320
Speaker 1: dice and be completely correct. Yeah, here's the things on

2443
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:40,600
Speaker 1: the table, because you've got to know, I mean, we,

2444
02:09:41,160 --> 02:09:43,960
Speaker 1: the Bills fans have been there, you know, back when

2445
02:09:44,160 --> 02:09:45,760
Speaker 1: the team was ten and six. You're trying to fight

2446
02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:47,600
Speaker 1: your way and you gotta win that last game in

2447
02:09:47,680 --> 02:09:49,880
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. You gotta win that last game. Get some help,

2448
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:54,080
Speaker 1: and they did. All these teams from from Miami at

2449
02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:57,720
Speaker 1: thirteen all the way through the one are thinking we're

2450
02:09:57,760 --> 02:10:00,400
Speaker 1: in this. We got a shot at this. They're all

2451
02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:02,280
Speaker 1: and they're all gonna be, you know, have their foot

2452
02:10:02,360 --> 02:10:05,200
Speaker 1: on the gas pedal. More competitive games. Oh yeah, there's

2453
02:10:05,200 --> 02:10:07,680
Speaker 1: gonna be some competitive games coming down the road, down

2454
02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:13,440
Speaker 1: them down the schedule that are gonna be really, really good.

2455
02:10:14,040 --> 02:10:17,400
Speaker 1: JT says, I think the Bills come out on top

2456
02:10:17,480 --> 02:10:20,040
Speaker 1: of the AFC East again. Pats have won six in

2457
02:10:20,120 --> 02:10:22,960
Speaker 1: a row, but look at whom they faced, the stinky Browns,

2458
02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:27,360
Speaker 1: the dirty Birds, Panthers, and Titans without Henry and Tannehill stinks.

2459
02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:30,040
Speaker 1: The Bills will be back on top. After Monday Night

2460
02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:34,240
Speaker 1: thirty to fourteen, Allen will ball out three exclamation. I

2461
02:10:34,280 --> 02:10:38,480
Speaker 1: think about this. Now the Dolphins are five and seven,

2462
02:10:39,720 --> 02:10:43,520
Speaker 1: then they're gonna play the Giants, the Jets. After the

2463
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:47,160
Speaker 1: Dolphins take a loose to the Jets, watch you think,

2464
02:10:47,760 --> 02:10:50,160
Speaker 1: watch it happen. And then the Saints and now the

2465
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:52,040
Speaker 1: Saints maybe getting held at the Saints are the Saints.

2466
02:10:52,080 --> 02:10:54,440
Speaker 1: We saw they could go. They could get all the

2467
02:10:54,480 --> 02:10:59,360
Speaker 1: way to eight and seven, eight and seven before they

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02:10:59,480 --> 02:11:02,720
Speaker 1: play get this, the Titans and the Patriots to end

2469
02:11:02,760 --> 02:11:09,120
Speaker 1: the season. Oh what a gut punch, so close, so close.

2470
02:11:09,680 --> 02:11:11,320
Speaker 1: They think about him. The Giant they're gonna be They

2471
02:11:11,800 --> 02:11:14,240
Speaker 1: gotta think they're gonna get to They're gonna get to

2472
02:11:14,320 --> 02:11:16,480
Speaker 1: seven and seven on the year, They're gonna beat the

2473
02:11:16,520 --> 02:11:19,400
Speaker 1: Giant's gonna beat the Jets seven and seven. That keeps

2474
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:22,960
Speaker 1: them in it. JW. Sock says the Bills need to

2475
02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:26,680
Speaker 1: beat the Pats at home at least twice would be best.

2476
02:11:27,160 --> 02:11:29,600
Speaker 1: They need to start fast Monday night offensively, or they

2477
02:11:29,760 --> 02:11:33,040
Speaker 1: may be in trouble. I agree with that, and Matt

2478
02:11:33,120 --> 02:11:35,040
Speaker 1: Chadham mentioned it when we had him on the air

2479
02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:38,200
Speaker 1: as well. Bills get up early. Now you forced the

2480
02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:41,560
Speaker 1: Patriots to not necessarily lean on their run game as much.

2481
02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:43,920
Speaker 1: They need Mac to maybe make a few more plays

2482
02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:48,600
Speaker 1: to keep up. Now, Patriots defense usually has something to

2483
02:11:48,680 --> 02:11:51,120
Speaker 1: say about that, So be very interesting to see if

2484
02:11:51,160 --> 02:11:53,080
Speaker 1: that can occur, because if it can, I think it helps.

2485
02:11:53,200 --> 02:11:55,040
Speaker 1: It's all. It all comes down to the mistakes the

2486
02:11:55,400 --> 02:11:58,040
Speaker 1: Bills make as compared to the Patriots. Now, Patriots are

2487
02:11:58,320 --> 02:12:01,080
Speaker 1: and they're much better or football team than we saw

2488
02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:04,280
Speaker 1: them last year. The Patriots are much more talented, got

2489
02:12:04,320 --> 02:12:07,640
Speaker 1: a lot more playmakers defensively, and they're back to what

2490
02:12:07,840 --> 02:12:10,960
Speaker 1: we saw with Tom Brady at quarterback, where they just

2491
02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:13,040
Speaker 1: don't make any mistakes. The guy puts the ball on,

2492
02:12:13,120 --> 02:12:15,160
Speaker 1: the guy makes the right read, and you got to

2493
02:12:15,200 --> 02:12:17,320
Speaker 1: cover them up or they're gonna move the football on you.

2494
02:12:19,560 --> 02:12:24,600
Speaker 1: I will be interested to see how Leslie Frazier looks

2495
02:12:24,640 --> 02:12:28,720
Speaker 1: at this Patriot offense. Yeah, because it's a run first,

2496
02:12:29,720 --> 02:12:32,960
Speaker 1: but stay on the field kind of offense, completion oriented.

2497
02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:36,040
Speaker 1: So Buffalo's defense is gonna have to tackle really well

2498
02:12:36,360 --> 02:12:38,880
Speaker 1: the limit yards after they came. I think in this game,

2499
02:12:38,960 --> 02:12:41,640
Speaker 1: more so than the other, batted balls are gonna be huge.

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02:12:42,480 --> 02:12:44,760
Speaker 1: That's how they got their pick in the end zone yesterday. Yeah,

2501
02:12:44,920 --> 02:12:48,000
Speaker 1: off a tip pass. Finally, from Barbara on the tweet sheet,

2502
02:12:48,360 --> 02:12:54,080
Speaker 1: her assessment of the AFC, The Steelers are cooked, short

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Speaker 1: and sweet from Barbara. Steve and I have close things

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Speaker 1: up next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collid

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Speaker 1: to Health. It's Buffalo Bills, right idea, So Peter King

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Speaker 1: in his Football Morning in American column, Steve has this

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Speaker 1: as his top ten teams, ranked in order, number ten, Tennessee,

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02:13:22,080 --> 02:13:26,520
Speaker 1: number nine, the Rams, number eight, Dallas seven, Baltimore six,

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02:13:26,680 --> 02:13:31,160
Speaker 1: Tampa five, Kansas City four, Buffalo three, New England two,

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02:13:31,160 --> 02:13:35,640
Speaker 1: Arizona one, Green Bay got an issue with any of that.

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02:13:37,960 --> 02:13:40,400
Speaker 1: The Bills have been going played five hundred football for

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02:13:40,600 --> 02:13:43,600
Speaker 1: five weeks now, and the Patriots have won all theirs,

2513
02:13:43,640 --> 02:13:46,000
Speaker 1: and they played for six schedule six in a row.

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02:13:46,120 --> 02:13:47,800
Speaker 1: So I'm yeah, I don't have a problem with any

2515
02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:50,240
Speaker 1: of that. It's all. It's a week to week league,

2516
02:13:50,280 --> 02:13:53,120
Speaker 1: and if depending on how this game with Buffalo goes

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02:13:53,440 --> 02:13:56,400
Speaker 1: here on Monday night, they'll change it again. Yeah, they'll

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Speaker 1: change it again. Here's his assessment on the Patriots. I

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Speaker 1: put the Patriots third because as mac Jones shows no

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Speaker 1: sign of the game being too big for him, and

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Speaker 1: because the defensive depth is better than any AFC peer.

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Speaker 1: That depth was helped significantly by the addition of Matthew

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Speaker 1: Judon in free agency. Of the Bills, he said, truly

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Speaker 1: a mystifying team. They're holding opposing quarterbacks to a composite

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Speaker 1: passer rating of sixty two point eight with eight touchdowns

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Speaker 1: surrendered in sixteen picks. That's one pesky pass defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they had their moments, We'll see, they've been consistent. We

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Speaker 1: got all week to talk about it. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at one