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Speaker 3: Okay, gentlemen, NFL draft has come and gone. Baldy's joining
Speaker 3: us from Los Angeles, and I think doos You're in Florida, right.
Speaker 2: I am in the great sunny state of Florida.
Speaker 1: How you guys feeling this morning?
Speaker 6: I'm good man, But you know, this this draft, I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, fans could talk about it twenty four to seven,
Speaker 6: but eventually, like you gotta like do it and then
Speaker 6: just let it go because honestly, like none of these guys,
Speaker 6: you know, everybody wants to have them in the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 6: You know, these guys gotta just they're just getting started.
Speaker 6: They're just all getting started.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: Well, let's put a ball on the Jets twenty twenty
Speaker 3: five drafts.
Speaker 1: Shall we Baldy, what were your.
Speaker 3: Thoughts on the way GM, Darren Mougie head coach Aaron
Speaker 3: Glenn navigated their first draft.
Speaker 7: I thought it was excellent.
Speaker 6: I mean, they had real needs and they found real
Speaker 6: value in those needs, starting with armand Member, who was
Speaker 6: an elite prospect all right, from his size, his movement,
Speaker 6: his production, what he did at Missouri. And then to
Speaker 6: get Mason Taylor, a position of real need that many
Speaker 6: thought maybe they would spend their seventh pick on a
Speaker 6: tight end and they elected to go the other way.
Speaker 6: But they got the two big positions of need for
Speaker 6: the offense to really help out justin fields to give
Speaker 6: him the best opportunity. I thought the Jets have been
Speaker 6: struggling for years to really build a really talented offensive line.
Speaker 6: They were never able to quite get there, and I
Speaker 6: feel like they've got the pieces in place to be
Speaker 6: a real right now.
Speaker 3: Duds, did it feel vindigated you've been picking Mambo for
Speaker 3: months to the Jets?
Speaker 4: Yeah, me and Baldy were kind of kidding. We kind
Speaker 4: of always knew that was gonna be the pig. Just
Speaker 4: you got to think you just read in between the lines.
Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn coming over from Detroit. How did they build
Speaker 4: it throughout the trenches? They have one of the best
Speaker 4: offensive lines in football, and there was one void on
Speaker 4: that offensive line, and you had a player that could
Speaker 4: easily fill that void in mar Membo. It wasn't a
Speaker 4: guy that you had to take and then cross train
Speaker 4: him to the other side because he hadn't done it.
Speaker 2: He's played right tackle his whole career.
Speaker 4: So like, it just made too much sense when you
Speaker 4: talk about him being young, the upside, the athletic ability,
Speaker 4: and then just the dog mentality he has fits what
Speaker 4: Aaron Glynn wants to do. And then to echo what
Speaker 4: Baldy was saying, like, when you look at this offensive line,
Speaker 4: the last time the Jets were true contenders, you're talking
Speaker 4: about twenty eleven, it was built through that offensive line.
Speaker 4: So Aaron Glynn again, Tenner Ainstrang coming from Detroit was
Speaker 4: built through the offensive line. And then the Jets have
Speaker 4: one of the youngest offensive lines, so now this group
Speaker 4: can grow together. Literally, the oldest player or starter or
Speaker 4: projected started on the offensive line for the Jets, it's
Speaker 4: twenty seven years old. I don't know many other teams
Speaker 4: can say that right now about their offensive.
Speaker 3: Line, Baldy, what do you'll like most about Memo's game
Speaker 3: and is he makes this transition, what is he going
Speaker 3: to have to work on?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean it the NFL level. I mean, you're
Speaker 6: just gonna see great players every single week. It's you know,
Speaker 6: you don't get that in college. And so it's about
Speaker 6: being consistent, consistent with your technique. I think all these
Speaker 6: young guys, you know they're gonna get stronger. I think
Speaker 6: he can get stronger in the upper body where he
Speaker 6: just locks guys out and then he just ends the
Speaker 6: pass rush like he's got you can see it in
Speaker 6: flashes where he can do that and he has done that.
Speaker 6: But you know, you just love his movement. Like there's
Speaker 6: so many things you can do with an athletic tackle.
Speaker 6: I mean the perimeter game, the quick game, getting to
Speaker 6: the second level, cutting off on the backs, like all
Speaker 6: those things he will be able to do just naturally.
Speaker 6: Then's the question of all the you know he's got
Speaker 6: to work with Alivia Tucker. You want to become the
Speaker 6: right side, like the communication that you need to handle stunts,
Speaker 6: to handle you know, any kind of movement up front.
Speaker 6: So to take the thinking out of it where you
Speaker 6: could just react. I mean, he's got to get to
Speaker 6: that stage and that will come, but that will come
Speaker 6: with reps. And then it's a question of how quickly
Speaker 6: does it come. How quickly do they they build this bond,
Speaker 6: this bond that great offensive lines have where it's literally
Speaker 6: five guys with one mind, and you know, the communication
Speaker 6: normally starts from the center tipman, and it goes left,
Speaker 6: it goes right. That's what's got to come right now
Speaker 6: with armand but the actual ability is there, and that's
Speaker 6: where you got it's got to start because he's going
Speaker 6: to see some of the best pass rushers in the
Speaker 6: league right now are coming over the right tackle. And
Speaker 6: so you know, you go up to Buffalo and you
Speaker 6: see what what they put over that right tackle.
Speaker 7: That's a good football player right there. So that's what
Speaker 7: he's got to get ready for.
Speaker 3: Dudes, I like it that there's no projection that he's
Speaker 3: moving positions that I'll have an opportunity to win that
Speaker 3: right tackle spot. And that's where he was entrenched in
Speaker 3: at Missouri. I just wanted to move the conversation forward here,
Speaker 3: du Is. I think for a long time it's debating
Speaker 3: whether it was going to be tackle or perhaps tight end,
Speaker 3: and most people were looking at Tyler Warren there. Ironically,
Speaker 3: the Bears take Colston Lovelin off the board and number
Speaker 3: ten overall Warren slips or I don't even want to
Speaker 3: say slips when he goes to fourteen to Indianapolis. How
Speaker 3: much do you think it went into the thinking for
Speaker 3: the Jets that if we're going to get our tackle,
Speaker 3: we better get one now because we have an opportunity
Speaker 3: to actually come back in the second round and get
Speaker 3: a tight end. And how about the way that worked
Speaker 3: out for them getting Taylor at number forty two overall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 4: You build it in the trenches, and those guys tend
Speaker 4: to go faster, I believe, you know, the top tackles
Speaker 4: went really early in this draft. We talk about Will
Speaker 4: Campbell going four overall and Arma Membu going seven, Calvin
Speaker 4: Banks going nine, So there was a run on, you know,
Speaker 4: the top three tackles, and the just didn't want to
Speaker 4: take a chance to potentially, you know, go tight end
Speaker 4: and then miss out in a Day one starter at
Speaker 4: tackle in the second round, because again, those tackles went fast.
Speaker 4: Even Josh Simmons went at the end of the first round,
Speaker 4: so like you would have missed out on him, Josh
Speaker 4: Cornerly Connorley, you would have missed out on him because
Speaker 4: he would at the end of the first round. So
Speaker 4: I thought it was strategic by Darren Mujie and also
Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn to realize, like we talk about positional value,
Speaker 4: the offensive tackle is higher than the tight end position,
Speaker 4: and we can get a really good tight end in
Speaker 4: the second round. As matter of fact, they got everybody
Speaker 4: or mostly everybody's tight end three in the second round,
Speaker 4: So I thought they played it the right way.
Speaker 3: Baldy, I love those draft calls that we see on
Speaker 3: draft weekend, specifically Mason Taylor's draft call. Offensive coordinator Tanner
Speaker 3: Engstrand got on there and he was pumped. He said, listen,
Speaker 3: we got a plan for you. Angstrand comes from the lines.
Speaker 3: Of course, how do you envision Taylor working in this offense?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, anybody that's watched Detroit the number one
Speaker 6: offensive football You watch Sam Laporta the day he came
Speaker 6: out of Iowa and what he has been able to
Speaker 6: do in that offense. All the crossing routes, you know,
Speaker 6: all the movement and things that they do, the two
Speaker 6: tight end sets that you'll get with Ruckert right now.
Speaker 6: Mason Taylor, they were a big two tight end set
Speaker 6: that helped him in the run game. You know, the motions,
Speaker 6: the pre snap motions that they would do with Laporter.
Speaker 6: You're gonna see the same thing with Mason Taylor. That's
Speaker 6: what you saw at LSU. He was He probably was
Speaker 6: in motion every single play, you know, changing the strength,
Speaker 6: looking for matchups. So he's been doing a lot of
Speaker 6: these things. But I can just take a you know,
Speaker 6: just a snapshot of Detroit's offense from the offensive line
Speaker 6: to the tight ends, to how they worked the tight ends.
Speaker 6: Like I can see a lot of that playbook coming
Speaker 6: to the New York Jets right now.
Speaker 3: Interesting tight end room now, dude, because you're adding him
Speaker 3: to a guy that you like in Stone Smart and
Speaker 3: Jeremy Rutgers is going to have an opportunity to play
Speaker 3: some more now that Tyler Conklin departed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm so glad Brady brought that up as
Speaker 4: far as Detroit living in twelve personnel, which is one back,
Speaker 4: two tight end, because I look at it like this,
Speaker 4: Jeremy Rutger is probably going to be their Brock right right,
Speaker 4: and Mason Taylor is going to be the Sam l
Speaker 4: porter that you know Tanner Ainstring had in Detroit. So
Speaker 4: I could definitely see them coming out in two tight
Speaker 4: ends SATs. And then even they liked some thirteen personnel
Speaker 4: near the red zone and in the goal line as well,
Speaker 4: So Stone Smart will be the third guy that they
Speaker 4: use to not only run the ball, but also heavy
Speaker 4: plays and pass. Stone Smart's a big, tall receiver. He
Speaker 4: can go up and get the football. So it'll be
Speaker 4: interesting to see how inventive Tanner Ainstream can be with
Speaker 4: this tight end group of Stone Smart or Mason Taylor
Speaker 4: and also Jeremy Rucker.
Speaker 3: Not really a surprise there with the first two picks,
Speaker 3: especially the positions when you're speaking tackle tight end. But
Speaker 3: I think the Jets surprise some folks in the third
Speaker 3: round there, Baldy getting Florida State cornerback Zarier Thomas out
Speaker 3: of Florida State. Aaron Glenn likes his corners big, and
Speaker 3: this guy is big and he's physical.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean they just I mean, just you just
Speaker 6: keep turn the page back to Detroit.
Speaker 7: You know, they signed Carlton Davis, who is a big
Speaker 7: long corner. Last year they drafted Terry on Arnold in
Speaker 7: the first round. Like you know, sometimes you got to
Speaker 7: match up with these receivers. And one thing about Zarah was,
Speaker 7: you know when you're watching Florida State, he's a big
Speaker 7: six to one and a half corner, two hundred pounds
Speaker 7: and he's not afraid to get his hands on guys.
Speaker 7: And you don't see a lot of press corners at college.
Speaker 7: You just don't. And so the way that they.
Speaker 6: Play zwnes and you know these h the defenses, you
Speaker 6: don't see that, but you see a lot of that
Speaker 6: at Florida State. So to me, I thought, Darren, it
Speaker 6: was clearly a this is the best player on our board,
Speaker 6: like because you know me and dudes are like man
Speaker 6: defensive tackle.
Speaker 7: There was a rich class of defensive tackles.
Speaker 6: You could have said that, but maybe the way that
Speaker 6: they stacked their board, Thomas was their next best player
Speaker 6: at number seventy three, and so they took the best
Speaker 6: player available and looked, honestly, everybody needs.
Speaker 7: Four corners in any game. You need four corners that
Speaker 7: could play.
Speaker 6: And so we know they've got three starters out there,
Speaker 6: especially with getting Brandon Stevens a free agency.
Speaker 7: And so I think that's that's what you got.
Speaker 6: You got yourself a press corner that you know, whether
Speaker 6: it's you're going up against a team that's playing ten
Speaker 6: personnel in Buffalo, whatever it is, you might need that
Speaker 6: fourth corner on the field, but in the rotation, you'd
Speaker 6: love to have a guy that has that ability and
Speaker 6: that length at that position.
Speaker 3: To as you guys both were there in Mobile at
Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl, how much do you think he specifically
Speaker 3: Thomas elevated his stock what he did there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he showed what he did all year long at
Speaker 2: Florida State.
Speaker 4: Now, there wasn't a lot to like about what you
Speaker 4: saw on film from Florida State this past year, but
Speaker 4: him and Josh Farmer were two of the brighter spots, right,
Speaker 4: and he showed versus Kyle Williams, who was to me
Speaker 4: the best separator in this class when it comes to
Speaker 4: the receiver position. They had some really classic battles out
Speaker 4: there in Mobile, and that's the thing that he does
Speaker 4: like where other dbs struggled in those one on one
Speaker 4: situations because Baldy, you know, it's slated for the offense
Speaker 4: to win in one on ones with receivers and dbs.
Speaker 4: He actually elevated his game doing those scenarios because that's
Speaker 4: what he does on a daily basis. And Baldy hit
Speaker 4: this on the head earlier talking about a lot of
Speaker 4: these kids play more zone in college. Well, that's where
Speaker 4: you kind of get exposed and man coverage when it's
Speaker 4: one on one situations, and that's where he really solidified
Speaker 4: itself and showed that he could be a press man
Speaker 4: cover corner. I think being there in the third round
Speaker 4: was a surprise to AG and Darren Moujie. As to
Speaker 4: Baldy's point, this was a rich defensive tackle class and
Speaker 4: there was a run in the second round and then Darius,
Speaker 4: even Darius Alexander fell to the first round and the
Speaker 4: third the first pick in the third round, so maybe
Speaker 4: he was a consideration as well, but he was also
Speaker 4: gone by the time they picked. They looked at their board,
Speaker 4: they looked at where the next defensive tackle was maybe
Speaker 4: and they said, you know, Thomas on the board was
Speaker 4: significantly higher than the next defensive tackle. So we're gonna
Speaker 4: get the most bang for our buck with the value
Speaker 4: with getting Thomas here. And I think that's why they
Speaker 4: took him in the third round ball he we.
Speaker 3: Thought the Jets were gonna add receiver at some point.
Speaker 3: Early Day three starts with Aaron Smith out of Georgia.
Speaker 3: What can you say about his physical skill set?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean he's got world class speed.
Speaker 6: I think he runs you know, a ten to one
Speaker 6: eight hundred meters, which is world class, right, But you know,
Speaker 6: I mean there's speed and then there's football speed. This
Speaker 6: guy separates Like this guy when you watch him, you
Speaker 6: know he's fast because he's going up against sec he
Speaker 6: you know, cornerbacks and defenses and he's running by people.
Speaker 6: Now he needs to go get married to a drug
Speaker 6: machine and he needs get on I mean because you know, look,
Speaker 6: the guy has not had a lot of production at Georgia,
Speaker 6: and he wasn't on the field lot. They had a
Speaker 6: lot of other talented guys. He had to kind of
Speaker 6: wait his time, and you know, he made the best
Speaker 6: of it this year. But for the most part, this
Speaker 6: is a guy that you can't teach this kind of speed.
Speaker 6: He's going to open up things underneath for a lot
Speaker 6: of players. And I keep going back to Detroit. I
Speaker 6: mean this is what they have, you know, with one
Speaker 6: of their elite players in Williams there and this is
Speaker 6: the prototype right here. Get a guy that can fly. Now,
Speaker 6: he's not he's not polished yet. There's a lot he's
Speaker 6: got to learn, but the raw talent is there at
Speaker 6: that position.
Speaker 3: All right, dud, So one of the receiver has problems
Speaker 3: with drops? Is that something that you can coach it
Speaker 3: out of him?
Speaker 1: Meaning?
Speaker 3: It was interesting last weekend because Baldi talked about.
Speaker 1: James and Williams.
Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn talked about jameson Williams and you know the
Speaker 3: scouting report on him coming out and his difficulties with drops?
Speaker 3: Is it more Can it be a physical thing that
Speaker 3: turns into a mental thing or is it more mental
Speaker 3: when you're talking about drops. This is a kid who
Speaker 3: averaged nineteen point nine yards of reception at Georgia. And
Speaker 3: the other thing that I really like is he's got
Speaker 3: a mentality. He's not just like, oh, I'm a speed
Speaker 3: and ness guy. He brings up physicality the game and
Speaker 3: I think immediately he's going to contribute on special teams.
Speaker 1: You always want that in your day. Three picks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, without a doubt. You go back to the Jamison
Speaker 4: Williams comparison. He definitely struggled. You know, he came in
Speaker 4: with an injury, but he struggled his first full year
Speaker 4: playing in regards to drops, and people were wondering, dang,
Speaker 4: did Detroit potentially reached too early for this guy and
Speaker 4: then he was able to put it together.
Speaker 2: To me, it's more of a mental confidence thing. And Baldy,
Speaker 2: you know this.
Speaker 4: You covered the game for a long time, like there
Speaker 4: sends to be a mental block. Once you drop one pass,
Speaker 4: then you drop another, then you drop another, and the
Speaker 4: only way to get over that is to continue to
Speaker 4: go out there and.
Speaker 2: Try to catch the football.
Speaker 4: Like once you finally catch the ball, your confidence is
Speaker 4: going to go out of this world. So I think
Speaker 4: for him it's going to be a mental thing, and
Speaker 4: he has one of the best receiver coaches and son, Jefferson,
Speaker 4: to help instill some of that confidence into him to
Speaker 4: hopefully get him over that help.
Speaker 2: Because going back passed.
Speaker 4: Last year in the twenty three season, didn't have issues
Speaker 4: would drop passes. It was only this past season and
Speaker 4: then even at the Singer Bowl he dropped a few
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 2: So you would hope that they.
Speaker 4: Could instill some confidence in the young man and he
Speaker 4: could get back to where he was in the twenty
Speaker 4: three season.
Speaker 7: Real quick, real quick.
Speaker 6: I'd love to see you know, that daily competition with
Speaker 6: him in sauce. You know, I think it's because his
Speaker 6: speed is gonna make sauce really like, you know, stretch
Speaker 6: those hamstreets before practice, but go up against a.
Speaker 7: Long corner like that.
Speaker 6: I mean that should help him in practice out there,
Speaker 6: like just the whole iron sharpens iron type thing.
Speaker 3: Baldy on that subject, how does it change the dynamic
Speaker 3: defensively when the Jets put a guy like Smith out
Speaker 3: there on the field. You know, you're number one going
Speaker 3: on the outside is Garrett Wilson. You've fortified that offensive line.
Speaker 3: But then if you got Smith out there and the
Speaker 3: safety noises out there on the field, what is it
Speaker 3: going to do for everybody else?
Speaker 7: Well, your safeties are are not going to be nosy.
Speaker 6: They're not you know, they're gonna line up, They're gonna
Speaker 6: give themselves an extra step. You know, the corners are
Speaker 6: gonna do their scout and report and they're gonna go.
Speaker 6: You know, nobody wants to get beat. Nobody wants to
Speaker 6: you know, somebody to run by him on tape. Nobody
Speaker 6: wants that on the resume, and so you naturally start
Speaker 6: backing up a little bit when you've got a guy.
Speaker 6: We saw it with Jameson Williams, like I would expect.
Speaker 6: Some of the things that they did do is with
Speaker 6: Jameson like to end a rounds and reverses and stuff,
Speaker 6: put the ball in his hands and let him go
Speaker 6: to work. I mean, that's what they did. But you
Speaker 6: saw the safeties were backing up before the ball was
Speaker 6: snapped with him in the lineup and in key spots,
Speaker 6: and so I can see defenses have the same fear
Speaker 6: that that speed.
Speaker 7: Puts in you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And to that point, Baldy, right when you talk
Speaker 4: about Garrett Wilson eating up the middle of the field,
Speaker 4: because you talk about tenner enstring coming over from Detroit
Speaker 4: route those past concepts where you run that deep dig
Speaker 4: and when I say deep dig, you run you know,
Speaker 4: ten yard fifteen yards down the field and you break inside.
Speaker 2: Right, you have that linebacker that's in zone coverage.
Speaker 4: Well, because Garrett Wilson is a guy, you know you
Speaker 4: want to get the ball to. What he does is
Speaker 4: he just runs a quick, little ten five ten yard
Speaker 4: stop route and then everybody collapses on him. Now you
Speaker 4: have a guy behind him wide open. And that's what
Speaker 4: Detroit did with Jamison Williams and Amar Ross Saint Brown
Speaker 4: because Amar Rossaint Brown is one of the best slot
Speaker 4: receivers in football and he tears up the middle of
Speaker 4: the field. Garrett Wilson has that same skill set. Now
Speaker 4: with the speed of Arian Smith, he can do some
Speaker 4: of the things that Jamo did in Detroit to free
Speaker 4: up Gary Wilson, because if you get nosy, you're gonna
Speaker 4: give up a fifteen yard dig route every single play
Speaker 4: because everybody's colliding on Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 3: All right, boul, let's get a last word from you,
Speaker 3: because you got to catch a plane, and I'm sure
Speaker 3: you're gonna be swimming with the sharks here in a
Speaker 3: couple hours. Aaron Glenn said, we're looking for tough, physical, violent, aggressive,
Speaker 3: and resilient players. What did you see from him? I
Speaker 3: want to comment from you overall on ag and Mougie,
Speaker 3: the way they attack this thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, you know there's comps out there
Speaker 6: to armand menmut to Jason Peters, who's going to the
Speaker 6: Hall of Fame that the Eagles basically had for most
Speaker 6: of their career but I mean just an explosive body type,
Speaker 6: you know that can you know, walk guys off the
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage. And Mason Taylor is a much better
Speaker 6: blocker than anybody probably talked about. They just talked about
Speaker 6: him as a flex tight end. But he's going to
Speaker 6: get his share of stalemates as area is, like, he's
Speaker 6: getting his hands on guys and stony guys is a
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage. He doesn't seem like I know he
Speaker 6: didn't run a fast forty times, but he didn't seem
Speaker 6: like he had any fear of getting his hands on
Speaker 6: guys and winning at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 7: And for me, I want my receivers that are going
Speaker 7: up against my corners to have to work to get
Speaker 7: off the line of.
Speaker 6: Scrimmage, you know, to have to work on the releases
Speaker 6: all week, knowing you're gonna have two ends in the
Speaker 6: chest and so and then Malachi, you know, look, you
Speaker 6: start for five years at Alabama like that. First of all,
Speaker 6: you got to get through practice at Alabama, you know,
Speaker 6: and that's that's a challenge by itself. Then you you know,
Speaker 6: game days probably in some cases, especially when Nick was there,
Speaker 6: like game days were a relief probably over what they
Speaker 6: did in practice. And so there's a mentality of a toughness,
Speaker 6: big programs that these guys came from that they're bringing
Speaker 6: to the Jets right now.
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Speaker 1: Hey dude, the pod carries on. Man. He just mentioned
Speaker 1: Malachi Moore. Man. Yeah, played five seasons.
Speaker 3: There at Alabama and they used them all over the place.
Speaker 3: With that being said, how do you envision him coming
Speaker 3: in and working in the defensive backfield?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I know we talked about this pre draft, but when
Speaker 4: you look at the makeup of the roster, there's a
Speaker 4: significant amount of free safeties on this roster. When you
Speaker 4: talk about Tony Adams, you talk about you know, Andre Cisco,
Speaker 4: also Isaiah Oliverer with the ability to play free safety
Speaker 4: in some slot corner as well. By trade, Malachi Moore
Speaker 4: is a free safety. But because of the lack of
Speaker 4: foot speed and I don't say that disrespectfully because he
Speaker 4: has great instincts and he tracks the ball extremely well.
Speaker 4: I believe he transitions into strong say because he's a
Speaker 4: tone center in that secondary Like when he hits you,
Speaker 4: you feel it and you could tell. He plays with
Speaker 4: a tenacity and physicality that Aaron Glenn and Derry Muonji
Speaker 4: were looking for in this draft. So I think he's
Speaker 4: a guy that can play in the box. As a
Speaker 4: matter of fact, in Alabama they blitched him a lot
Speaker 4: off the edge.
Speaker 2: Ea. He was a guy that was constantly in the box.
Speaker 4: There were sometimes he literally disguised like he was blitzing
Speaker 4: and then he would get to the middle of the
Speaker 4: field right because he just has the wherewithal the instincts
Speaker 4: to do that. So I think this is a guy
Speaker 4: that crazy can transition into the box. He actually plays
Speaker 4: some slot corner for them as well, so he definitely
Speaker 4: has the short area of quickness to be able to
Speaker 4: cover tight ends down in the flat down the scene,
Speaker 4: but also be that extra guy and run the fence
Speaker 4: that you need in the box.
Speaker 3: A Heady ball Player fifteen and a half tackles for
Speaker 3: Lost There with the Crimson Tide thirty one pds and
Speaker 3: while you're saying he's not the biggest guy, he's going
Speaker 3: to go in there and he's going to tackle. He's
Speaker 3: not afraid of contact at all. He's gonna mix it up.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be interesting to see once he gets
Speaker 3: on the field behind me here at one Jets drive,
Speaker 3: how he's gonna be used in that secondary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 4: Again, I think he makes that transition to strong safety,
Speaker 4: and I think and he ag kind of even you know,
Speaker 4: you know said these words, they don't have an opportunity
Speaker 4: to compete.
Speaker 2: To start this year.
Speaker 4: And they'll also use him on special teams because let's
Speaker 4: not forget at Alabama, not only was he a starter
Speaker 4: on defense at safety, but he was a starter on
Speaker 4: special team. So he has elite game experience when it
Speaker 4: comes to being a special teams player. So I think
Speaker 4: you'll in that phase of the game definitely making the
Speaker 4: immediate impact for the Jets.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about a couple of Hurricanes, shall we. You're
Speaker 3: down in Florida. Keiko Mayonoa uh thumper, right guy, played
Speaker 3: middle linebacker that Miami. Started his career at Washington State,
Speaker 3: grew up in American Samoa had a long journey.
Speaker 1: To get to this point.
Speaker 3: Uh, but he's a guy really gets after it and
Speaker 3: maybe he comes a Corps special teamer for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, without a doubt, you take him into fifth round.
Speaker 4: This is a physical another physical player, right, Those were
Speaker 4: the attributes that Darren Moujie and Aaron Glenn were looking for.
Speaker 4: This is a guy that gets downhill in a hurry.
Speaker 4: Now has struggled at times when it comes to disengaging
Speaker 4: off offensive lineman. But he's a guy that they also
Speaker 4: used in blitzing at Miami frequently. And he's a really
Speaker 4: good blitzer and knows how to get to the quarterback.
Speaker 4: And if you know anything about you know, Coach Wilkes
Speaker 4: and also Aaron Glenn, they like to bring pressure. So
Speaker 4: that's something that probably you know, piqued their interest when
Speaker 4: looking at his film.
Speaker 2: And also in zone coverage, he's a pretty good athlete.
Speaker 4: He knows how to match when I say match zone,
Speaker 4: when somebody comes into your zone area, he essentially turns
Speaker 4: it into man and matches really well with those receivers
Speaker 4: with tight ends.
Speaker 2: He does a really good job doing that.
Speaker 4: And then Tyler Barron is a guy really like I
Speaker 4: think his comp for me is similar to Jermaine Johnson
Speaker 4: when he was coming out right, very physical guy. He
Speaker 4: bends tight ends backwards at the point of attack. He's
Speaker 4: a guy that also rushes with power, but also developed,
Speaker 4: I would say after the season when he was at
Speaker 4: the East West and really showed a bevy of different
Speaker 4: pass rush moves. So there's high upside there as a
Speaker 4: pass rusher. So I think you get another good player
Speaker 4: in the fifth round with really good value that they
Speaker 4: traded up for to And when you look at the
Speaker 4: edge group right behind Jermaine Johnson was coming off of
Speaker 4: major injury and also Will McDonald who had doubled the
Speaker 4: the sacks, there's a lot of young and youthful guys
Speaker 4: behind that. So you want to be able to add
Speaker 4: to that room, especially if you think there's really good
Speaker 4: value in Tyler Barron in the fifth round.
Speaker 3: What do you make of the connections to Jason Taylor
Speaker 3: former Jeff Mason Taylor had a year here, grown up
Speaker 3: in New York City. And also when you talk about
Speaker 3: the edge there in Tyler Baron his position coach at
Speaker 3: Miami with Jason Taylor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, without a Dallas, a lot of connections between one.
Speaker 2: Just drive and those guys that were either drafted.
Speaker 4: From Miami or guy who his dad played here, right,
Speaker 4: and Mason Taylor. So you love the family connection and
Speaker 4: then also the coaching connected connection. It'll be great to
Speaker 4: see probably Jason Taylor come back around more now that
Speaker 4: his son is going to be playing in the Green
Speaker 4: and White. Now again, he has to be on the
Speaker 4: field on Saturdays because he has the coach's edge guys
Speaker 4: at the University of Miami. But I'm sure he's gonna
Speaker 4: do his best to make sure he makes it a
Speaker 4: few of Mason Taylor's game. So you always talk about
Speaker 4: bloodlines when it comes to athletes, and he has an
Speaker 4: elite bud line with his father being a Hall of
Speaker 4: Famer or Ring of Honor member for the Miami Dolphins. Again,
Speaker 4: you talked about how he played here in New York,
Speaker 4: so they're really familiar with the area as well. And
Speaker 4: then also Barn, I'm sure he's talking to Jason Taylor
Speaker 4: as well as far as him making that transition from
Speaker 4: Miami up here. Let's not forget he transferred from Tennessee
Speaker 4: going to Miami. Now he's going to be coming to
Speaker 4: New York and his coach played here a year.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the Jets. They did not add a quarterback
Speaker 1: in this draft.
Speaker 3: Obviously, they signed justin fields and free agency.
Speaker 1: He was a priority.
Speaker 3: He's twenty six years old, former first round pick, did
Speaker 3: a lot of good things with Pittsburgh last year. He's
Speaker 3: going to have a big time opportunity here with the Jets.
Speaker 3: Tyrod Tayler, he's a backup quarterback. Jordan Travis here, Adrian Martinez.
Speaker 3: Neither of those guys have taken an NFL snap. We
Speaker 3: wondered before the draft, Hey, are the Jets going to
Speaker 3: take a developmental passer?
Speaker 1: We all thought maybe that's a possibility.
Speaker 3: They didn't in the draft, but they did sign Brady Cook,
Speaker 3: armand Mambu's teammate at Missouri as an undrafted free agent.
Speaker 1: What's the Scoulary report?
Speaker 4: I Cook really loved that signing by the New York Jets.
Speaker 4: If we go back to the twenty three season, this
Speaker 4: was a guy heading into twenty four that a lot
Speaker 4: of people consider a second round pick, maybe even in
Speaker 4: the back of the first round.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 4: He was plagued by injuries this last year at Missou
Speaker 4: and just didn't look right at times, held onto the
Speaker 4: ball a little bit too long. But again going back
Speaker 4: to that twenty three tape, it was really good athletic
Speaker 4: quarterback that they used in the run games times at Mazoo.
Speaker 2: And there's a guy that could really spin it.
Speaker 4: Let's not forget he was throwing to the oise and
Speaker 4: also Luther Burden the third out there, and going back
Speaker 4: to that twenty three season, we saw exclusive explosive Luthor
Speaker 4: Burden was with Cook as the quarterback. So this is
Speaker 4: a guy that again you're getting really good value in
Speaker 4: as an undrafted free agent because going into this season
Speaker 4: many consider him going in the first two rounds.
Speaker 3: How about this when you talk about Cook and his athleticism,
Speaker 3: intriguing man four point five to nine in the forty
Speaker 3: thirty seventy ten eight broad jump. So he's a dual
Speaker 3: threat himself in terms of he can give you some
Speaker 3: juice with.
Speaker 1: His legs and correct.
Speaker 3: You know, he's gonna be a guy that's gonna be
Speaker 3: interesting to watch here in the spring.
Speaker 2: Of the summer, without a doubt.
Speaker 4: Now, again, you never know how roster construction is gonna
Speaker 4: end up happening. Right before the season. Do the Jets
Speaker 4: only keep two quarterbacks? Do they potentially keep a third.
Speaker 4: I think he'll fit in right and with you know
Speaker 4: the Adrian Martinez is of the world in regards to
Speaker 4: competing for that third spot or maybe even a precnice
Speaker 4: squad spot to develop on this roster. Who knows, right
Speaker 4: say he develops really well, could he potentially be in
Speaker 4: competition in the following year for a backup role. That's
Speaker 4: going to be determined. But I really do like the
Speaker 4: signing by the Jests to bring Cook.
Speaker 3: In to's roster building. It's never over, there's never done.
Speaker 3: But as we sit here a couple of hours removed,
Speaker 3: a little bit punchy, I would say both of us
Speaker 3: are after a draft weekend.
Speaker 1: What do you make of the Jets roster right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so when you look at it in the draft,
Speaker 4: and I always say this, EA, you build through the
Speaker 4: draft and you kind of fill a few voids through
Speaker 4: free agency, right And I think they did a really
Speaker 4: good job with that combination of filling some much needed
Speaker 4: voids in free agency. When you talk about the defensive
Speaker 4: tackle position, now, I know that's the area that I
Speaker 4: think everybody's surprised they didn't attack in the draft because
Speaker 4: this may have been the deepest defensive tackle draft that
Speaker 4: we ever seen. But it also goes to show you
Speaker 4: that they stuck to their board, right, EA, when you
Speaker 4: talk about taking Membo first round, taking Mason Taylor second round,
Speaker 4: there may have been a defensive tackle there in the
Speaker 4: third round, but the value of taking Thomas outweighed taking
Speaker 4: that defensive tackle for need in the third round. And
Speaker 4: then you know when you come back in the fifth
Speaker 4: round and they had to trade and give away some
Speaker 4: picks to move up to get Tyler Barron, which again
Speaker 4: I think it was an under the radar need as
Speaker 4: far as getting a third defensive end behind Jermaine Johnson
Speaker 4: and Will McDonald, as well as far as edge guys.
Speaker 2: Say defensive end, because we're still trying.
Speaker 4: To figure out between Steve Wilks and Aaron Glenn what
Speaker 4: this defense will actually look like. Right, will it be
Speaker 4: a traditional four to three that Wilkes likes to run
Speaker 4: or will it be a three four that Aaron Glenn
Speaker 4: likes to run. So I'm just gonna say edge defender
Speaker 4: behind Will McDonald and also Jermaine Johnson. So I think
Speaker 4: getting Barron there in the fifth round was actually really
Speaker 4: smart as well. So when you look at it, is
Speaker 4: there still maybe question marks at a safety position. Could
Speaker 4: they potentially still sign a vet there?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Could they maybe sign another you know vet edge or
Speaker 4: defensive tackle. I think that could be a possibility. People
Speaker 4: forget ea that there's waves of free agency. Right there's
Speaker 4: the opening week, then there's that second tier, then there's
Speaker 4: a tier after the draft when you feel like you
Speaker 4: want to there's still some voids on your team and
Speaker 4: maybe you can fill a void here and there. You'll
Speaker 4: see you'll start to see more guys sign, I would
Speaker 4: say leaning up to training camp and even into training camp,
Speaker 4: as teams discover what their roster is truly like and
Speaker 4: voids they have on their roster.
Speaker 3: It's not as if they did not address defensive tackle
Speaker 3: on free agency. They had to just because the body's
Speaker 3: coming and gone right correct, I mean they got j
Speaker 3: to Folly obviously. They also added Byron Coward and then
Speaker 3: Derek Noddy. He's the guy who he might be stationed
Speaker 3: next to Quinning Williams on early downs run downs.
Speaker 1: He comes from.
Speaker 3: Kansas City, a lot of experience there. And then the
Speaker 3: other guy that I just wanted to throw a name
Speaker 3: at you, Letard Taylor did something.
Speaker 1: Without a thanks his first year.
Speaker 3: So I don't think we should forget about him as
Speaker 3: part of the equation either.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you look at him essentially like a draft
Speaker 4: pick because you got to kind of stole him as
Speaker 4: an undrafted free agent, right And he came in and
Speaker 4: people were worried about his work ethic, but he put
Speaker 4: his head down and he worked and he earned you know,
Speaker 4: making this team throughout preseason and training camp, and then
Speaker 4: he saw him kind of paid dividends towards the back
Speaker 4: half of the year where he started getting more reps,
Speaker 4: got more comfortable, started making some splash plays. So he
Speaker 4: has to be a part of, you know, this transition
Speaker 4: at defensive tackle as well.
Speaker 2: He has to be part of the future.
Speaker 4: When you talk about you know that just essentially not
Speaker 4: drafting somebody this year, don't forget they still have a
Speaker 4: young Leonard Taylor that's only going into a second year.
Speaker 3: All right, Listen, you have the unenviable task of delivering
Speaker 3: draft grades for all these teams when we oh, no,
Speaker 3: that you really can't draft I mean great a draft class,
Speaker 3: excuse me until two years down the road. With that
Speaker 3: being said, we got to end here and say, what
Speaker 3: are you giving the Jets?
Speaker 4: I gave the Jets in my grade draft grade, I
Speaker 4: gave him a B minus. I thought they felt some
Speaker 4: really good voids when you talk about Arma Membu and
Speaker 4: Mason Taylor. Obviously, getting Thomas was a bonus and a
Speaker 4: third round because of value, but I think you know,
Speaker 4: when it comes to missing out on a defensive tackle,
Speaker 4: on a defensive tackle rich class. That's why I kind
Speaker 4: of slided the Jets a little bit and gave them
Speaker 4: a B minus because I thought there was so much
Speaker 4: value still out there even in the third or fourth
Speaker 4: rounds that they could have attacked that and then essentially
Speaker 4: let somebody grow with Leonard Taylor and Quinn Williams. But
Speaker 4: other than that, I love what the Jets did. In
Speaker 4: regards to malacop Bor. I think he's a guy again
Speaker 4: that makes that transition to strong safety.
Speaker 2: And then you look at Maui Gooa.
Speaker 4: As a physical guy to will probably start off on
Speaker 4: special teams. I think barn And have a nice role.
Speaker 4: He could potentially compete to be that swing defensive end
Speaker 4: or edge guy for the Jets in his rookie year.
Speaker 1: Hey man, hell of a job throughout this thing.
Speaker 3: It's been quite a run as always and remember next year.
Speaker 1: When Due starts.
Speaker 3: Making his predictions, he had URMA member going to the Jets.
Speaker 1: Early on, he