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Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs been in the Super Bowl basically since

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Speaker 3: Moby Dick was a Guppy. They ain't looking like they're

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Speaker 3: gonna be back there this year. They fall the six

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Speaker 3: and seven on the season after losing last night at

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Speaker 3: the Houston Texans. They will now officially have zero chance

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Speaker 3: of winning the AFC West for the first time in

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Speaker 3: a decade, and their chances of making the postseason are

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Speaker 3: a blistering twelve percent. They'd have to win out and

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Speaker 3: need a thousand other things to break their way just

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Speaker 3: to make the playoffs. Right now, it's the official and

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Speaker 3: the crumbling of Chiefs Kingdom, no.

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Speaker 4: Doubt, and I want to go here.

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Speaker 1: And I told you Kelvin Washington. I told you a

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Speaker 1: couple listeners. I told you all you forty X players

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Speaker 1: who are analysts on television. I told you Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: has not been the same guy for years now, and

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Speaker 1: people have continued to make excuses. Even last night, they're

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Speaker 1: still making excuses. Fourteen for thirty three, three interceptions, no touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: and you want to talk about.

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Speaker 4: Then you need a drafts O the drops.

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Speaker 1: I thought when he got all of his wide receivers

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Speaker 1: back Kelvin, they were off and running. That's what your

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Speaker 1: contention was that it was because he didn't have his guys.

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Speaker 4: All of his wide receivers are healthy and all playing.

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Speaker 1: And guess what the last four games when they needed

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Speaker 1: him one touchdown and six interceptions. Why can't we acknowledge?

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Speaker 1: Oh did you see Kelsey? That wasn't a well thrown

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Speaker 1: baller was thrown behind him. Wait, he would have if

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Speaker 1: he made that catch, it would have been a great catch.

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Speaker 1: I had the nerve to listen to Dan Orlowsky this

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Speaker 1: morning talk about he's the greatest player on the planet

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Speaker 1: since win.

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Speaker 4: You mean the guy.

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Speaker 1: Didn't get one first place MVP vote despite going fifteen

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Speaker 1: to one as a starter last year.

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Speaker 4: Come on, you guys are living in the past. The

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Speaker 4: Chiefs haven't been good. I know they went to the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I told you last year they were lucky at Sin

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Speaker 1: and it all caught up.

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Speaker 4: To him this year.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any excuses about Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't played well. Why can't we acknowledge that? Why

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Speaker 1: can't everybody else always excuses? Oh Andy, we went four

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Speaker 1: on fourth down on a thirty one yard Oh Chelsey,

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Speaker 1: he hit the ball hit him? Oh was she right?

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Speaker 1: He dropped the ball off for it. That that's all

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Speaker 1: I heard. Patrick Mahomes didn't make every throw either. Did

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Speaker 1: you watch the game? Did you watch the highlights? He

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Speaker 1: didn't make all the throws and he hasn't been making

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Speaker 1: the throws.

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Speaker 4: This has been a process.

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Speaker 1: That's why I said before the season that they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, not based on because some hate. Where's

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Speaker 1: all the Chiefs Kingdom people who were on Twitter that

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Speaker 1: I was washed, I was a washed reporter and I'm

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Speaker 1: a hater and I'm just looking for clicks. We're all

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Speaker 1: those guys. When I tried to tell you, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you can't find those guys today because they didn't

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Speaker 1: want to hear it.

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Speaker 4: And I get it.

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Speaker 1: When you get into fandom, you can't look at stuff

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Speaker 1: everything is everybody else's fault. The last thing for you, Kelvin,

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Speaker 1: the reason the Chiefs aren't going to the playoffs?

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Speaker 4: Are you ready? Is Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: Not the defense which is seventh best in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: not the receivers, not Andy Reid.

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Speaker 4: It's Patrick Mahomes is to blame.

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Speaker 1: He is the reason why the Chiefs are not gonna

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. And go to YouTube and go see

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Speaker 1: will be because of Patrick Mahomes and the offense, and

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Speaker 1: that's why they are where they are.

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Speaker 5: The Chiefs are playing bad football. There's no way around it.

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Speaker 5: They're playing bad football as an offensive unit. At times,

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Speaker 5: they're playing that being out coached. Andy Reid probably for

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Speaker 5: the first time in his life, has to admit that

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Speaker 5: he normally makes. Patrick Mahomes is forcing things. You got

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Speaker 5: guys who are dropping balls that normally don't so this

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Speaker 5: is they look bad in totality, with the defensewithstanding, that

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Speaker 5: might be the only unit that for the most part

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Speaker 4: A couple of things. I don't agree with you on

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Speaker 5: I don't agree if you're saying this season, I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: But if you're saying including last year, I don't agree

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Speaker 5: throughout the season. Last year, he was making those plays

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Speaker 5: that would get them to win.

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Speaker 4: He was making those third down comarade.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get an MVP vote if he was

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Speaker 1: making the plays that no, no, I'm using your words. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if he made the plays that helped him win fifteen

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Speaker 1: go fifteen and one.

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Speaker 4: Why did he not? Why did he not.

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Speaker 1: Get one first place MVP vote? Because you won't be

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Speaker 1: able to answer it because what you're saying is illogical.

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Speaker 5: That's first of all, it's factual that I don't even

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Speaker 5: know why you brought that up.

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Speaker 4: That's proved. I was telling you this all last year.

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Speaker 5: He was the highest third down conversion by far last

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Speaker 5: year and even half of the season. So he makes

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Speaker 5: the play the winning play. That's not debatable. We're talking

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Speaker 5: about last season, you asked why didn't get an MVP

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Speaker 5: vote because Lamar Jackson. You remember I set up here

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Speaker 5: and said it right sext to you that he's.

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Speaker 4: The best player.

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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen were insane last year. So

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Speaker 5: him being fifteen to two and winging the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 5: getting to Super doesn't mean he had to be the

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Speaker 5: m v P. Him making third down conversions, they were limitedlessly.

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Speaker 5: From what I said, he made the winning tonight.

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Speaker 4: Listen to what I said. I'm talking about so one

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Speaker 4: in last.

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Speaker 1: Year, one vote, not just win the MVP, I'm answered

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Speaker 1: in question, and winning because the other got but one vote,

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Speaker 1: because the other guys, including Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: No, we're insane.

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Speaker 1: He got in all him and watched him. They went

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Speaker 1: they were fifteen and one in Mahomes' starts. Because you

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Speaker 1: just why he just because I thought it was winning.

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Speaker 5: You know you an answer questions, Okay, so that if

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Speaker 5: you could ask, let me answer. So, like I said,

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Speaker 5: it's because he only made a handful of plays each game.

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Speaker 5: Lamar was making fifteen to twenty, Josh Allen was making

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Speaker 5: fifteen to twenty, Joe Burrow's making ten to fifteen, a game.

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Speaker 5: That's why he realized with his defense kept him in games.

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Speaker 5: Don't turn over too much stick around. I can make

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Speaker 5: a player two and that is why those player two

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Speaker 5: aren't working this year. Those guys that make plays aside

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Speaker 5: from him, it's not working this year. So they'll denying

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Speaker 5: it and they have to go to the drawing board

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Speaker 5: and figure out what's next. Andy Reid has to figure

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Speaker 5: out what next the designing of the plays. Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 5: has to go to the drawing board and realize what

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Speaker 5: I'm doing isn't working. They absolutely have to look at

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Speaker 5: house guys. They may have to start. Chris Jones has

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Speaker 5: played really well yesterday. Can we get some form? Can

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Speaker 5: we trade? They're gonna have to look at themselves and

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Speaker 5: really make a hard reset at some point. I don't

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Speaker 5: agree that has been singularly Patrick Mahomes, But you give

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Speaker 5: me some numbers.

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Speaker 4: Can I give you numbers? They got numbers.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes has a sixty eight point six passer rating on

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Speaker 1: deep passes that's third worst of the thirty six qualifiers,

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Speaker 1: ranked near the bottom for NFL on deep ball completions

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Speaker 1: thirty two percent more and while he's uh while being

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Speaker 1: top three in deep ball attempts fifty five. He's so

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Speaker 1: he's torn them a lot, he's just not hitting them.

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Speaker 1: And my point to you is you set up here

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Speaker 1: on this very radio show when you talked about getting

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Speaker 1: with Shei Rice back and worthy and that no, and

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Speaker 1: you proclaimed that he was going to be the MVP

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Speaker 1: and they were going to go to the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: because Patrick got his mojo and got his receivers back

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Speaker 1: and that is what was stopping him.

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Speaker 4: So will you take that back that it had nothing

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Speaker 1: And that's about And that's so with Patrick Mahomes playing badly, playing.

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Speaker 5: Like absolutely, why can't go trash? He is playing bad

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Speaker 5: without a doubt. They are bad as a team, without

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Speaker 5: a doubt. There's no deny. Their record is what they are,

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Speaker 5: close games that they normally win, they have it. They

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Speaker 5: put themselves in a hole yesterday, he's throwing some balls off.

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Speaker 5: They're not catching balls again, Andy Reid being freaked out

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Speaker 5: and doing stuff he doesn't normally do. They look bad

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Speaker 5: as a unit and this year is gonna be a

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Speaker 5: tough year for them to look in the mirror. Absolutely,

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Speaker 5: I thought they would bounce back. They had a good

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Speaker 4: Without a doubt, I was wrong on that.

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Speaker 5: I have no problem admitting that they look bad as

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Speaker 5: a team this year and are getting it done, especially

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Speaker 5: Rob two point.

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Speaker 4: They're losing a good teams too.

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Speaker 3: Big news in Indianapolis. They're quarterback Daniel Jones, Danny Dimes,

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Speaker 3: Danny Pennys. We want to call him out for the

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Speaker 3: season with the torn achilles, wishing him a speedy recovery.

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Speaker 3: But because the Indianapolis Colts are still in the thick

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Speaker 3: of the AFC playoff race, they need a new quarterback

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Speaker 3: and Rightley Lander's not the answer. Six round rookie might

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Speaker 3: be heard this weekend, they don't like any other options.

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Speaker 3: Athlete Richardson, their former top five overall pick, still dealing

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Speaker 3: with the broken face after hit himself with an elastic

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Speaker 3: band on how that happened.

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Speaker 4: So because of that.

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Speaker 3: They're dipping into the Canton Hall of Fame category. Philip Rivers,

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Speaker 3: who is eligible to be in shrine in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 3: has just been signed to their practice squad. He has

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Speaker 3: not played football in about five years. If he gets

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Speaker 3: signed to the active roster, not only will he be

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Speaker 3: the oldest quarterback in the NFL by far, he will

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Speaker 3: also have restarted his Hall of Fame case another five years.

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Speaker 4: So it's a double whammy for Philip Rivers. I'm disgusted.

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Speaker 4: He's too old.

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Speaker 5: Old man Rivers is crazy, man.

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Speaker 5: With you, oh, I'm not dealing with you right now,

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Speaker 1: They I'm a I'm in a bad Plantation movie that

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Speaker 3: The University of Michigan has firehead football coach Charome Moore

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Speaker 4: We know this. It's one of the first videos you

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Speaker 1: And in this case, and this is all alleged, we're

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Speaker 1: not indicting anybody. I mean saying that they're guilty, and

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Speaker 1: the guy lost his job. Michigan has to feel pretty

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Speaker 1: good with the evidence that it had against more. But

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Speaker 1: my point is this is because we allow these coaches

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Speaker 1: cart blanche, and we allow them to do what they

447
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Speaker 1: want run the universe. They're bigger than the college presidents.

448
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Speaker 1: They make more money than anybody they run the place.

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Speaker 1: And with absolute power comes problems and when people and

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Speaker 1: that's why I think this keeps happening.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know what, I don't think you finished it

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Speaker 5: off though. I think this is where we differ a

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Speaker 5: little bit. With absolute power comes absolute responsibility. And I

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Speaker 5: think that's where I was saying, So I hear you

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Speaker 5: in the schools, and these guys become bigger than the

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Speaker 5: godlike figures.

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Speaker 4: We talk about that all the time.

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Speaker 5: That's why sometimes coaching in college can be more beneficial

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Speaker 5: than NFL because you get away, get away, you become

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Speaker 5: the guy, a deity in that city and that town

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Speaker 5: in that state, whereas NFL it's like you better win

462
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Speaker 5: or else. You're not bigger than that. You might not

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Speaker 5: even be bigger than your quarterback in the NFL. But

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Speaker 5: I still have to put a lot of this at

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Speaker 5: the feet of the persons involved in this case. More

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Speaker 5: if this what is alleged true some of the other

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Speaker 5: coaches we named, Because you are in these positions of power,

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Speaker 5: of responsibility, and of leadership, and you have to also

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Speaker 5: and then practice what you preach with these young men.

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Speaker 4: Right, we talked about all the time.

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Speaker 5: One of the no distractions, accountability, uh and and integrity.

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Speaker 4: That's what you're preaching to these young men.

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Speaker 1: But that was Bill Belichick right until he got girlfriend.

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Speaker 4: Just what I'm in life change. But this is what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: You have to preach us because to be honest with you,

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Speaker 5: this thing that has happened that happened since biblical times,

478
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Speaker 5: like bad decisions when it comes to you know, in

479
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Speaker 5: this case, obviously the matter.

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Speaker 1: But back then, you weren't signing a multi million dollar contract.

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Speaker 4: That told you don't know what King David was signing

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Speaker 4: that you don't.

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Speaker 1: Know what told you don't know, don't mess around with

484
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Speaker 1: don't mess around with the staff.

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Speaker 5: You don't know what Solomon was signing back then, you know.

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Speaker 5: But no, I say this to say but that That's

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Speaker 5: where I'm going with this. The school is saying, you're

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Speaker 5: not just a coach.

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Speaker 4: You were a.

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Speaker 5: Leader of men. You were a leader in this community.

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Speaker 5: You were a pillar in this community. We're giving you,

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Speaker 5: paying you handsomely in some cases, like a coach in Michigan.

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Speaker 4: Act right. So I don't I can't put the onus

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Speaker 4: on the school. Act right.

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Speaker 5: I'm giving you one of the world class jobs. There's

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Speaker 5: only a handful of these types of jobs in the

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Speaker 5: entire world. You have one. You have, you have power.

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Speaker 5: You're leading people, not only your team, you're leading the community.

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Speaker 5: We're putting billboards up, we're putting commercials up. We're entrusting

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Speaker 5: you around other young people. We're entrusting you with parents, children.

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Speaker 5: Act right. And so to me, it falls on them.

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Speaker 5: Now do they get their minds gets convoluted and they

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Speaker 5: become the guy and they get cloudy and judgment because

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Speaker 5: I am the one.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's the case, but I that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason that it didn't happen to one person.

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Speaker 1: That never happened.

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Speaker 5: I guess what I'm saying is take away the job.

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Speaker 5: This happens all the time in the history of mankind.

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Speaker 1: I don't know I'm agree with you that I disagree

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Speaker 1: with you. I agree, but you're not talking about, as

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Speaker 1: you just said, the responsibility that goes with it.

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Speaker 4: It's all laid out for you.

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Speaker 1: It ain't like Joey at the You're working at the

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Speaker 1: supermarket and uh, you know what I mean, and you're

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Speaker 1: working an hourly wage and and there's a cute girl

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Speaker 1: in the checkout count or whatever.

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Speaker 4: This is all laid out.

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Speaker 1: This has happened to so many people before, and it

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Speaker 1: keeps happening. And I do believe that you feel like

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Speaker 1: you're invincible when you get those jobs because of what

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Speaker 1: they allow you to do and get away with.

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Speaker 4: The player did something whatever, they bring it to you.

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Speaker 1: They don't call the police, they don't report it like

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Speaker 1: this is so you feel like you can get away

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Speaker 1: with anything. Because our star linebacker just got away with something.

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Speaker 4: You believe that.

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Speaker 5: Here's where I also will say, historically, you use Joe Paterno.

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Speaker 5: I'll give you that. We know stuff that came about

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Speaker 5: that Joe Pto came up. Oh that's what we came

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Speaker 5: out with. The story came out about both Simbleckler and

532
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Speaker 5: what they the Michigan.

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Speaker 4: What they turned their hands on here.

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Speaker 5: So the point is I agree with that more historically,

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Speaker 5: it's twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: And this is the gotcha media.

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Speaker 5: This is the I got my own ability to expose

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Speaker 5: things and put out things and texting messages and all that.

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Speaker 5: And so to me, you gotta be you gotta be

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Speaker 5: it shouldn't be doing it in the first place.

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Speaker 4: You gotta be aware.

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Speaker 5: But let alone in twenty twenty five, it's even more

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Speaker 5: imparant that you do right, because this is just the

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Speaker 5: accessibility to be exposed. This ain't the lionized era where

545
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Speaker 5: we're gonna lionize you and cover the eye. You're coming

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Speaker 5: and hungover. Weere's gonna say you have the stomach flu.

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Speaker 5: This ain't that era no more. This is I got

548
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Speaker 5: to play. This is the Pablo Tory era, where they're

549
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Speaker 5: putting everything out there and continuing to take shots at

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Speaker 5: you and find you. So I'm more shocked as happening

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Speaker 5: now