1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: The NFL never sleeps. The roster is ever evolving, and it's. 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: All about finding the edge. This is the last word 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 2: the off season home of the Indianapolis Colts. 4 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Oh you know what time it is, tgif happy Friday 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: evening to you. Hopefully your weekend is starting and if 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: it has, thanks for getting in some time with us 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: tonight radio wise, Matt Taylor here with Casey Value. This 8 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: is the last word the Colts offseason radio home and 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: the last local show of the week. Here on ninety 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: three five one oh seven five the fan were inside 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio tonight. Casey, how 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: was your week man? It was great. 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: It was the uh, you know, the final whatever you 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: want to call it, before the push of camp. Gotta 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: get your lawn mode one last time, Hurrah. We talked 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: about it earlier this week. I think you went to 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: the dent, I got an oil. 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: Change in the car. 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: Life stuff because now all of a sudden free time 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: in quotes, but the free time that we did have 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: kind of dwindles away here now. 22 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: So what are you even Reid doing tonight? Because I mean, 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: I know he's losing his margarita buddy for the next 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: couple of weekends. I'll tell you this read. 25 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: So, my buddy Reid, he works at Round Tripper up 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: in Carmel, and they had tryouts all week. So I 27 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 3: haven't heard from him because he's been essentially working like 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: nine am till about eight thirty at night. 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but reads one of those guys that just surfaces, right, 30 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: isn't he. 31 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: So I'm assuming that there's a good chance after this 32 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: show I'm going to get the text like, hey, man, 33 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 3: I need a mark, and I'll be you know, I'll 34 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 3: be right there. 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: I've had a day I need to read mark right now, 36 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: any marg I need one made specifically by Margarita man Reid. 37 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: Does he know how often he's referred to on this program. 38 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: I have mentioned it to him. 39 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: I said, you're kind of a staple on thisra now, yeah, yeah, 40 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: all right, So the Colts ask said on their final 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: week of summer break here before training camp starts. 42 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: Now the last couple of weeks here on this program, 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: we've been breaking down each position group here in the summertime, 44 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: leading you up to the start of the season. On 45 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: previous episodes, we've talked all about quarterbacks and running backs 46 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: and whiteouts, and tight ends O line d Line last week. 47 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: Catch those shows on demand on the Colts podcast channels 48 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: to get you revved up for the start of training camp. 49 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: By the way, report Day is coming up on Tuesday. 50 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: First practice next week for the Colts is Wednesday. But 51 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: on tonight's show, we're taking a deep dive into linebacker 52 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: and in the secondary. But, like we said, Case thirteen 53 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: practices all open to the public for the Colts coming up. 54 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: There's gonna be that joint practice with the Packers. There's 55 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: gonna be Colt City is open like always, that's open 56 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: to kids and families. There's gonna be the night practice 57 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: coming up on July thirty first. That's the new thing 58 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: this year, first time the Colts are practicing under the 59 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: lights Thursday, July thirty first, eight to ten. There's gonna 60 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: be a fireworks show after that as well, which you 61 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: and I put the soundtrack together for. Yeah, that was 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: an experience that was I've learned a lot. 63 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: I'm not real hip on my new music, so I 64 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: learned a lot about what is well if. 65 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: You're not right all right, So I leaned on you 66 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: for a lot. But I think between the two of 67 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: us we kind of put our heads together, and we 68 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: think we did right by a lot of people all over. Yeah, 69 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be way you like, you'll you'll enjoy 70 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: it for sure. Head to Colts dot com slash camp 71 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: to claim your tickets and there you can see a 72 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: full rundown of the calendar and the training camp dates 73 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: real quick before we get into the burning questions linebacker 74 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: and secondary case, what are you what are you most 75 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: excited for when it comes to camp. We've talked at 76 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: nauseum about everything in the summertime because we're in this 77 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: dead period, if you will, in terms of content. But 78 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: as it relates to Wednesday, when the Colts get on 79 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: the field, case, where are your eyeballs going first? 80 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: Probably popular just to say quarterback. We have talked about 81 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: the competition up to this point, but now we actually 82 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: get to see all of that come to fruition. So 83 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: that's probably just us, but everybody everybody fans too, and 84 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: there's gonna be daily reporting. 85 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: On that, and that's the thing you're gonna know. 86 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: You're gonna have a really good idea on where the 87 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: Colts are gonna turn, which that's kind of the benefit 88 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: of the Colts having these open practices to the fans 89 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: that they get to see what their team is gonna 90 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: look like as they head into the season. 91 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: So quarterback. 92 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: But then, you know, when you think about just what 93 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 3: I'm excited most about camp, you talk about that night practice. 94 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: I can't wait. 95 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: That's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm really looking 96 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 3: forward to. 97 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: That for sure. For sure. Again, that's July thirty. First, 98 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: that's a Thursday night, So that could be a good 99 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: weekend starter. H all right, to catch my drift thirsty Thursday. 100 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about linebacker burning questions here, the 101 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 1: hottest question surrounding this position for the Colts new defense, 102 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 1: new scheme Louanna arumos here now case, I think first 103 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: and foremost on the front burner here with the linebackers 104 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: has to be will Zaire Franklin and Jalen Carlis. Will 105 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: they be ready to go at the start of training camp. 106 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: Both guys are coming off offseason surgeries, didn't participate in 107 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: the on field portions of the spring workouts. Franklin's coming 108 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: off ankle clean up. Carlis had a shoulder procedure done. 109 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: I just think case it's really important for both guys 110 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: to get back on the field as soon as possible 111 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: after missing a lot of time in the spring, running 112 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: with the first team defense in a new scheme that's 113 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: fresh for everybody. No, that's paramount. 114 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 3: I mean, you can learn this defense all you want 115 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: in the classroom and all of that, but you got 116 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: to get out there and do it. And I think 117 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: Zaire Franklin Jalen Carlis will be just fine once they 118 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: get their feet underneath him. But do you need to 119 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 3: see it? So I hope it comes sooner than later. 120 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: I'd love to see, you know, when we hear from 121 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: Chris Ballard on Tuesday of next week, that you know 122 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: there's gonna be no concerns and these guys can be 123 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: on the field as soon as possible. 124 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: And that's what we're hoping for. Yeah, And with Carlais, 125 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: he's the leader in the clubhouse to be that will linebacker, 126 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: the second linebacker on the field next to Zaire Franklin. 127 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 1: Based on what he did last year as a rookie, 128 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: this guy showed a lot of promise. But he did 129 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: miss some games last year a few different injuries, and 130 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: did miss the spring rehabbing from surgery. But I think 131 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: he's got the right mental makeup. Here's what Zaire Franklin 132 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: and had to say about young Jalen Carlis and his potential. 133 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 4: Man. I would just say, maybe I'm obviously talented, uh 134 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 4: you know, could run, can cover, you know, you know, 135 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 4: can hit, you know, those are the things obviously to 136 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 4: pop out on the film. But I would just say, 137 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 4: you know, just as a guy, as a young player, 138 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 4: you know, humble, you know, willing to learn, you know, 139 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 4: and when you're out there, you know, it's it's really 140 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 4: obviously is lose defense and you know Machine's team, but 141 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: you know, at the end of the day, we out 142 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: there together. And I think JC just got the right 143 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 4: mentality when it come to that. Obviously he's dealt with 144 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 4: some injuries, got to get out there, got to you know, 145 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 4: learn what he don't know. But you know, I definitely 146 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: think he got a chance, you know, to be a 147 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 4: good player. 148 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. Again that Zaire Franklin 149 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: here on the Last Word ninety three five, one oh 150 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 1: seven five The Fan, I'm Matt Taylor with Casey Valley 151 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: as well. You kind of alluded to it a little bit, 152 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: case but how much behind the eight ball do you 153 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: think Franklin and Carlis are going to be because they 154 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: all of April May in the early part of June. 155 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think they are a little ball behind 156 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: the eight ball, especially because you had, you know, when 157 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: you think about mini camp that we had towards the 158 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: end of OTAs, that was important time to be able 159 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: to be on the field. Now, those guys, as we mentioned, 160 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: they were dealing with some offseason surgeries and cleanups that 161 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: they were dealing with, So that's the reason they weren't 162 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: on the field. But I think just because of that, 163 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: with a new scheme, you do kind of start behind 164 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: the April. 165 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: I know they were in the meetings. 166 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: But just getting on the field is going to be 167 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: vital to seeing how close to you know, that spot 168 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: of knowing the defense they can be. And that's why 169 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: I think it's paramount then get out on the field 170 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: as early as possible in camp. 171 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean even with Zaire Franklin, he's played a 172 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: lot of ball, Yeah, started a lot of games the 173 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: last couple of years, but there's still nuances to a 174 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: new scheme and he's the biggest leader on that side 175 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: of the ball well. 176 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: And also you've got some new pieces in that secondary too, 177 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: that are going to be relying on you know, you 178 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: got you got buying them, you got Ward who weren't 179 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: here last year. Yeah, that you're you're going to be 180 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: in lockstep with them and knowing where they're supposed to be. 181 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: All that synergy with the new guys. So yeah, yeah, Zaire, 182 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: Franklin and Middley. He said in the offseason he didn't 183 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: know a lot about lou An Arumo in his scheme 184 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: prior to his hiring, but he's a big fan of 185 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: it now. 186 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 4: To be honest with you, now, I wasn't you know 187 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 4: that familiar. Now, I'm a huge fan of you know, 188 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: guys that since he's had like Jesse Bates, you know 189 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 4: that's a good friend of mine. DJ Reader knew him 190 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 4: since he was in Clemson, you know, as well as 191 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 4: you know a few others. Uh So I've been fan 192 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 4: of players over there. But you know, just the more 193 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 4: I've had to obviously sit talk with lou talk to 194 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 4: talk with Bets, watched the film of my own go 195 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 4: back watch last year, watch twenty twenty three and just 196 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: see the different ways they able to attack offenses, put 197 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: themselves in positions to succeed and you know, take away 198 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 4: with the offense does best. You know, just extremely excited 199 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 4: to learn from a new coordinating, new coach. 200 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: You know, he used the phrase attack offenses, take away 201 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: what the offense does best. I think those are the 202 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: areas that if you're a fan of this team, that's 203 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: what's getting you excited. Ye maybe a little bit more 204 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: game specific, maybe a little bit more blitzing, hopefully take 205 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: away the other team's top options a little bit more effectively. 206 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: Right when the Bengals were rolling case that's exactly what 207 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: they were doing on defense. 208 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 3: Oh one hundred percent. You talk about what the Bengals 209 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 3: did that Super Bowl run, it was led in large 210 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: part by the defense. That's the reason that they were 211 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: where they were. And you can bring some of those 212 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: same principles over here. It makes this team gonna be 213 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: a lot of fun to watch. 214 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: Quickly. How does the depth What does the depth look 215 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: like behind Franklin and Carlis. We saw a lot of 216 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: that in the spring, but they're still I mean, you 217 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: talk about Franklin, he's started over sixty plus games. Everybody 218 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: else on the roster, Casey linebacker wise, has combined for 219 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: less than twenty regular season starts in the NFL. What 220 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: does it look like and are you concerned about it? 221 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: I mean there's a little bit of concern just because 222 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 3: you just don't know because the experiences in there. I mean, 223 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: guys like Shaguna Lubi, You've seen some good flashes out 224 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 3: of them. I thought Cameron mcgroon looked really, really good 225 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: during the offseason portion. But then you've got Joe BATCHI 226 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: he's a newcomer, but he was in the defense in Cincinnati. 227 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 3: But a lot of those guys you just don't know 228 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: a lot because the sample size is pretty small. 229 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: They didn't do much at linebacker in the draft, they 230 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: lost EJ. Speed and Grant Stewart in free agency, So, 231 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: like you said, proven an NFL experience kind of remains 232 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: the biggest question there. But I think linebacker is a position, 233 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: and I'm talking just big picture here, So that's one 234 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: of those spots that you can if you have to 235 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: pick follow me on this, if you have to pick 236 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: a position, that's maybe one area where you could loosely 237 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: afford to have baptism by fire. But Zaire Franklin has 238 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: proven durable and you're probably only going to play with 239 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: two linebackers on the field tops most of the time 240 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: because of how often the Colts are going to be 241 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: in in sub packages nickel or dime. This was defensive 242 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: coordinator lou Ana Rumo. Earlier in the offseason. He was 243 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: asked how he wants to match up with versatile receivers 244 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: and tight ends, which are prevalent obviously in modern NFL football, 245 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: and how linebackers factor into that. 246 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 5: The days to me of putting linebackers on tight ends 247 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 5: is not ideal for the defense. So you always want 248 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 5: to get a bigger, longer athlete that maybe can run 249 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 5: a little bit dB mindset. So yeah, more dbs out 250 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 5: there in pure passing situations, I think is something that 251 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 5: we've always tried to do and we'll continue to do. 252 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: So we look at the the lack of experience at 253 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: linebacker for the Colts, you know, it might not be 254 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: as big of an issue as we think because the 255 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: Colts are going to use that secondary to disguise and 256 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: you know, be multiple and using linebackers is just that's 257 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: not what lou Anaarumo wants to do. That's not his 258 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: preferred method of covering weapons in the passing game. 259 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's gonna make a it's gonna be interesting 260 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: to see kind of who fills that void and how 261 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: many they can on the roster. And that is a 262 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: big thing too, because a lot of times when you're 263 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: trying to do that roster math down to stretch on 264 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 3: who makes that fifty three a linebacker. It's a versatile 265 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: piece because a lot of times you've gotten the special 266 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: teams component. But then also, well, if we're playing you know, 267 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: let's say you're playing two to three linebackers, you got 268 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: to make sure you got enough depth there too, So 269 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: that does change that calculation for sure. 270 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: All right, good stuff, Colts single game tickets, they are 271 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: on sale now, make sure it's top of mind. Head 272 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: to Colts dot com slash tickets to purchase your tickets 273 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: through Ticketmaster, the official marketplace of the Colts and the NFL. 274 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: Time for a quick break here on the show. When 275 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: we come back, though, burning questions will continue in the secondary. 276 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: Is that unit the biggest strength on the team, and 277 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: how many players can the Colts keep in the secondary? 278 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: A lot of depth and a lot of good players. 279 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: Some tough conversations are going to be had at that spot. 280 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: We'll discuss all of that when we come back here 281 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: on the Last Word, Casey Vale, I'm Matt Taylor back 282 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: in just a moment on ninety three five one oh 283 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: seven five things. 284 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Last Word, the off season Home 285 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: of the Colts from the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio. 286 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had to make that firework playlist that's coming 287 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: up fireworks show after the night practice for the Colts 288 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: in training camp July thirty first, and the powers that 289 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: be gave us a huge responsibility. They said, hey, the 290 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: music men mate. In case, you guys make the firework playlist. 291 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: This is on it case, this is gonna gets you 292 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: fired up, all right, stuff blowing up in the sky 293 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: and Whitney Houston singing to the background. Yeah, you know what, Matt, 294 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: just one works. I'm not gonna lie to you. This 295 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: one does work. 296 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: This is one that I forget what movie it was 297 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: either Sing or Sing two. But my youngest son fell 298 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: in love with this song because he was on the 299 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: background of one of those. 300 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: So I've heard this had plenty of times. A ry 301 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: had a boy. Yep. Welcome back Last Word time with 302 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: Whitney off season Home of the Colts were inside the 303 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio. That's Casey Valier. I'm 304 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, and we are continue our Burning Questions series 305 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: here in the off season. We just on segment one 306 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: went fully in scope with the linebackers. Now it's time 307 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: to take a look at what's going on in the secondary. 308 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: But first we remind you that registration for the thirteenth 309 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: annual Colts five K Run and Walk and the second 310 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: annual Blues Fun Run it's now open. Does that mean 311 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: you run with Blue? Does he run with you the 312 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: whole time? He just goes back and forth? Holy smokes, 313 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: I mean Blues Athletics, So I mean you got to 314 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: really keep up with that. Yeah, but he's not Travis Hunter. 315 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: All right, No, he's not going both ways. Both events 316 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: take place at Lucas Oil Stadium, coming up Saturday, September sixth, 317 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: That is the day before the home opener against the 318 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. So for more information on that register today 319 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: head to Colts dot com. I always screw that up. 320 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: It's coltsfive k dot com register. So again coltsfive k 321 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: dot com. All right, Burning questions in the second case, 322 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: the first one I'm posing to you, and this is 323 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: Juicy have the additions of Charvarius Ward and the other 324 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: free agent centerpiece, cam Binam at safety. Have those guys 325 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: made the secondary the Colts' biggest strength team wide? I 326 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: think so. 327 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: I do think I thought that the secondary really played 328 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: better towards the end of last year. You had some 329 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: pieces there that you were very comfortable with moving forward. 330 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: Not only did you add a couple guys, you added 331 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: elite players. I mean, these are two of the best 332 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: at their respective positions in the league. We know what 333 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: Kenny Moore is. I think Jalen Jones played great again 334 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: last year. So you have that, as you know, three 335 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: really dynamic corners, and then whatever you get out of 336 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: Justin Wally and Juju Brince, you've got five and then 337 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: Samuel Woomack I can't forget about him. You've got six 338 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 3: guys at that corner spot you feel pretty comfortable with. 339 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: So I do think that when you look at what 340 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: this has done, this is the best strength on this roster. 341 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think the top end editions of those 342 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: two guys have turned the secondary into a major weapon. 343 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: And that's important. Right We've talked about this because Louie 344 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: an Rumo needs smart experienced playmakers in the back end 345 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: to be able to execute game specific game plans to 346 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: help confuse opposing quarterbacks. So cam Binam plays a huge 347 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: role in that because durability, his availability is there every 348 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: single week. You know, he proved that with the Minnesota Vikings, 349 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: and he talked earlier this offseason about knowing the Colts 350 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: defense based on what he's seen so far inside of it, 351 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna be disruptive in twenty twenty five. 352 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 6: It's been fun. It's a defense you even just hearing 353 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 6: from the offense them giving us our flowers and be like, yeah, 354 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 6: this defense is gonna be really good this year just 355 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 6: because they're going against us. So being able to hear 356 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 6: that from the offense is really reassuring for us to 357 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 6: know that, okay, we trust it, and going against the offense, 358 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 6: they're saying the same thing. So we know that lose 359 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 6: defense is gonna pay us really well this season. As 360 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,479 Speaker 6: far as making plays. 361 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cam Bydam and I think going up against 362 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: that defense every day, specifically that secondary, that's gonna make 363 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: the Colts offense better too, correct. You know, Jim Bob 364 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: Cooter talked about that at one point in the offseason, 365 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: just how much more prepared he thinks the offense is 366 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: going to be seeing a complicated defense with stars on 367 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: it in practice every single day in training camp. All right, 368 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: burning question number two, case, do you expect Sarvarius Ward 369 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: to shadow and shut down the opposition's top player this season? 370 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: You know, I do. 371 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be you know, it's gonna be 372 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 3: game specific. But there are a handful of opponents. And 373 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 3: this is one of the biggest things that I talk 374 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 3: about constantly when I say that I feel like the 375 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: Texans are going to take a step back, and I'm 376 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: meaning that mainly against the Colts because I envision Sharvarius 377 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: Ward looking at Nico Collins and shutting him down, and 378 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: I look at those other weapons that Houston has, and 379 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: I'm not as worried as I was last year when 380 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: you think about the guys that they lost. So that's 381 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: one of the big reasons why I've been so high 382 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: on the Texans taking a step back. I think the 383 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: Colts kind of answered that spot that they needed to 384 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: take away their best receiver. We would all agree the 385 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 3: Nico Collins without him the last two years, those games 386 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: are completely different stories. When you talk about Colts versus Texans, 387 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: So just in that series alone, I think he's going 388 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: to be monumental. 389 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: All right, case burning question number three, who's that third corner. 390 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: Who's going to be that second outside corner when the 391 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: Colts play Nickel defense when Kenny Moore gets kicked inside. 392 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see. You know what. 393 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: Jalen Jones looks like he missed a little bit of 394 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: the end of our spring workouts and that allowed Justin 395 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 3: Walla to get some very meaningful reps with the starters. 396 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting. 397 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: I think it's really gonna be a good battle to 398 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 3: see between those two guys with Jones and Wally. But 399 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: then also don't forget about Juju Brent. So that is 400 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: one kind of a low key battle that I'm really 401 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 3: anxious to see at camp because I think you got 402 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: three guys really vying and have a lot of, you know, 403 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: strengths to their game to be that third one. I 404 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: think it's going to start out at Jalen Jones, but 405 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked to see Justin Wally start to 406 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: creep in and get some of those minutes as this 407 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 3: year goes on. 408 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, naturally, you start with Jones. To your point, he 409 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: started twenty seven of the last twenty eight games. So 410 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: I think it, like you said, it would be hard 411 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: to supplant Jalen Jones right away if you're Justin Wally. 412 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: But I mean, there's just something about Justin Wally Man. 413 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: Don't sleep on this guy because you know, because of 414 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: injuries to Jones and Brent's in the off season, program 415 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: got some run with the first team defense, didn't look 416 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: like a fish out of water out there, didn't back 417 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: down as some of the best receiver weapons the Colts 418 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: have on offense was making plays. You know, you just 419 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: go back to you know what was said and then 420 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: what was not said. During the draft, the Colts were 421 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: really aggressive actions speak louder than words. Man, really aggressive 422 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: in drafting him where they did in the third round. 423 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: They did not want to let him slip through their 424 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: fingers in the draft and during the offseason. A lot 425 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: of Vets took notice in the spring. So here's our 426 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: various ward. This is what he saw out of young 427 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: Justin Wally during the spring workout period. 428 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 7: He saw me he can be a dollar, he can 429 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 7: cover real well. Yeah, so you know, Ricky mistakes obviously 430 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 7: because he's a young guy, but he's been compeaking with 431 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 7: all the big dollars on offense. So I think he 432 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 7: got in him, He got the effect in him. He 433 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 7: comforted himsel if he's not scared. He don't act like 434 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 7: Ricky all the. 435 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 4: Time, you know what I mean. 436 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 7: He kind of like a vit got his head on straight. 437 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 7: So I've been proud of him so far. 438 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. That's high praise now from our Varius 439 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: Wards six year vet in the NFL has played at 440 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,239 Speaker 1: a high level, all right. Lastly, how many members of 441 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: this secondary can make the team when you factor in 442 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: cornerback and safety case? What's that number for most boy? 443 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: So I think in years past like that number is 444 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: right there at nine. I wouldn't be shocked to see 445 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 3: it a little bit higher. Ten might be the number. 446 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 3: And that kind of goes into the way that lou 447 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: An Arumo is going to utilize the secondary. Maybe less 448 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: of the linebackers you can afford, maybe to keep a 449 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 3: hold of an extra corner or an extra safety when 450 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 3: it comes down to that roster construction towards getting you 451 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 3: to fifty three. So I'm assuming ten nine might be 452 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: that sweet spot. So I mean, guess, if you know 453 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 3: you're looking at odds, I would say probably nine and 454 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 3: a half is probably where I would go. 455 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: I'll take the over. Okay, all right, I'm gonna I'm 456 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: gonna go with ten. I think you keep six corners 457 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: and four safeties, and I think that means you're cutting 458 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: some darn good football players at both spots. You know, 459 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: if you keep six corners, that means that maybe somewhere 460 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: else on the roster feels that crunch a bit. Yeah, 461 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: look at it. Mean, if you're making a roster right now, 462 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 1: you got Kenny Moore. These, in my opinion, these are 463 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: your locks. Kenny Moore, Varius Ward, Jaylen Jones, Justin Wally 464 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: Juju Brentz. That's five yep. And then you got some 465 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: sort of maybe battle or run between Samuel Wollmack and Valentine. 466 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: David Long Junior is gonna be in that mix as well. 467 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be fascinating to see how that 468 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: shakes out of the position. It really will be. 469 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 3: And that's what you talk about it every year. You 470 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 3: want to get to the point where you are cutting 471 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: good players. That's that's what you want to do. You 472 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 3: want to have that much depth that you're cutting good players. 473 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: And I think the Colts are going to really fall 474 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 3: into that line this year in the secondary that you're 475 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 3: going to see some really good players. They're going to 476 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 3: be picked up pretty quickly because they can offer some, 477 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: you know, some real valuable depth. 478 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: Guys that have played, yes, you know, guys have NFL experience. 479 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: Those are your burning questions around the Colts secondary going 480 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: into training camp. The Colts have teamed up with Anthon 481 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: Blue Cross and Blue Shield. They're recognized school teachers, administrators, nurses, 482 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: staff members, and others who go above and beyond. Nominate 483 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: your classroom quarterback now at Colts dot com slash Classroom Quarterbacks. 484 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,239 Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, we're going to give 485 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: you the Forum Credit Union question of the week. We 486 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: only got a couple of bits left case, but chew 487 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: on this all right. I want to know which Colts 488 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: hot take that you have? Which one are you taking 489 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: with you heading into training camp? Right? Other people are 490 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: pointing the sword. They've backed you into a corner, but 491 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: you're still holding true to your guns. Which I take 492 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: are you hanging on to? That is gonna maybe receive 493 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: some pushback going into training camp. We will discuss that's 494 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: coming up next here on the Last Word ninety three 495 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: five one seven five the Fan. 496 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: We now return to the off season home of the Colts. 497 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: But last word from the Indiana Union Construction Industry radio studio. 498 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: I heard you clapping over there. Oh yeah, I love it. 499 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: This one, unfortunately, is not on the firework mix. That's 500 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: all right, you know, be on our firewhere we go. Yeah, 501 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: we'll make a separate one. We'll wear headphones during it. Yeah, 502 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: all the all the twenty somethings will be looking at 503 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: me like, what what is it? 504 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 6: What is this? 505 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: What is this? 506 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 6: Wow? 507 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: I love me some HU with the blowfish guy. Hey. 508 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: Last word brought to you by Meyer, the official supercenter 509 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: of the Colts, proud sponsor of hundreds of local sports 510 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: teams across the Midwest, and the sports album by Hubey 511 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: Lewis and the News. Hey did want to highlight this 512 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: case earlier this week Big news for the Colts. You 513 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: were clapping earlier. Let's give another clap. The Colts were 514 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: named twenty twenty five Sports Humanitarian Team of the Year. 515 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: That's an honor presented by or presented at the sb's 516 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: given to a sports club or team that demonstrates how 517 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: teamwork can create a measurable impact on a community or 518 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: a cause, and for the Colts that of course has 519 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: mental health awareness, research and treatment, which the team significantly 520 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: started supporting those areas through Kicking the Stigma that was 521 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: founded by the club and the Ursa family in two 522 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: thousand and twenty. So congratulations, pretty awesome to the Ursays 523 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: and the Colts for all the great work that they 524 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,239 Speaker 1: consistently do through Kicking the stigma. All right, time now 525 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: case for the Fortum Credit Union Question of the Week 526 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: before we close out here we teased it. I want 527 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: to know which cults are you sticking with? Knowing that 528 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: you might receive some pushback on it, but you think 529 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 1: you're going to be proven right once camp starts. 530 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 3: I hate to be just like super generic, but this 531 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: is what I'm going with. 532 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: And I said, hot take. 533 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 3: Well it's a hot take, but it's a you know, 534 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 3: it's not like I reached too far. I think Anthony 535 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: Richardson will start all seventeen games for the Colts. 536 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: Oh that is that is there? You go, who knows? 537 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: So that is what I am sticking with. 538 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 3: I think we are going to see and Anthony Richardson, 539 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 3: who wants the competition. He wants to prove that he's 540 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 3: the best. He's gonna get out there, He's gonna look 541 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 3: very comfortable inside the offense, and he is going to 542 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 3: lead this team through seventeen games this year. 543 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: Love that that is hot take he hot take right there. 544 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, mineus Colts tight ends minus Tyler Warren are 545 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: pretty good. Okay, don't at me if you're out there. 546 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. I know what the production 547 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: was last year. Tons of things went into their lack 548 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: of involvement in the offense. Moley Cox, Drew Ogletree, Will 549 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: Mal These guys can play when they got a big 550 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: time chip on their shoulder. It's been a big emphasis 551 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: all year. Get the tight ends more involved, that's the thing. 552 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: I mean, how much of that did we see in 553 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: the OTAs, Yes, from both quarterbacks. 554 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: We mentioned that numerous time. You know, well there's the 555 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 3: tight I mean even Jilanni Woods. You didn't mention Jelanni 556 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 3: Woods into that trio that you just talked about outside 557 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 3: of Tyler Warren. But he made a resurgence during the 558 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 3: offseason workouts. So yeah, I would agree with that. I 559 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 3: like that hot take. 560 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now you've got Warren here, I think you're 561 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: gonna see explosive usage out of the tight ends compared 562 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: to you know what you saw from that group last year. 563 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean, even if Richardson starts too, I expect him 564 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: to be significantly better at incorporating tight ends compared to 565 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: his first two years in the NFL, because that's what 566 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: he's been working on the entire offseason, the middle of 567 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: the field and the intermediate part of the passing game. Hey, 568 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: do you have a hot take out there? Share it 569 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: with us on Twitter X. Love to hear from you 570 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: as we go off the air heading into the weekend 571 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: at may take Colts on egg case, what are you doing? 572 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: Onso? 573 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: See value cold? 574 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: All right? 575 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: So what's your hot take? And uh, you know, give 576 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: us a reason why you're sticking to your guns on 577 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: this team going into training camp. Visit the forum credit 578 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: Union fanforum section of Colts dot com to interact there 579 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: with other fans online. Post a topic, get in on 580 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: various discussions on the Colts forum credit Union helping members 581 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: live their financial dreams. Case, what's going on this weekend? Oh? 582 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 3: Just I think we're gonna do a little trip to 583 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: Holiday World right before school starts. 584 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: All that, and that's what we're gonna do. Yeah, the 585 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: kids love Holiday World. You could spend seven days at 586 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: that water park. It's awesome. 587 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 3: So we'll be down there in good old Santa claus 588 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: this weekend. 589 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: That's amazing. What the Thanksgiving Land and oh yeah of July, 590 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: oh yeah, we're gonna do it again next Friday. Recapping 591 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: the first few days of training camp. But until then, everybody, 592 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: enjoy the weekend, and thank you for getting in the 593 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: last word with us here in the Home of the 594 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: Colts ninety three to five, one oh seven five the 595 00:27:53,680 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: fan have a great weekends 596 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: To get st