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Speaker 1: Good evening, America, Happy Thursday, and I welcome to the

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Speaker 1: latest edition of Justin News, No Noise. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: John Solomon, reporting to you, as always from the nation's capital,

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Speaker 1: where there was a little drama. It just finished a

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Speaker 1: few seconds ago. The United States House of Representatives defeated

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Speaker 1: a measure that would have required President Trump to get

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Speaker 1: congressional approval to take any military action in Venezuela, called

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Speaker 1: the War Powers Act Resolution. Republicans defeated it by a

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Speaker 1: nero here of their chiny chin chin. Now, this is

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Speaker 1: how close it was. They had to keep the vote

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Speaker 1: open for twenty minutes, so Congressman Wesley Hunt of Texas,

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Speaker 1: who was out of state, had to come all the

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Speaker 1: so they could defeat it. But this is a win

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Speaker 1: for President Trump. And there were other Wednesdays, some for

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Speaker 1: the American people. There were the final votes today. For

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Speaker 1: the first time in two decades, Congress passed all twelve

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Speaker 1: of their budget bills independently, something they promised they were

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Speaker 1: going to do. They got it done. You can check

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Speaker 1: that one off. In the process they began cutting more

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Speaker 1: things for the budget. That's why you go through the

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Speaker 1: normal process to get rid of some of the fat

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Speaker 1: that often is snuck in when you do a big

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Speaker 1: omnibus bill, like the normal budgets have been done for

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Speaker 1: about two decades now. All twelve bills there. They're going

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Speaker 1: to go to the Senate. There's a good chance the

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Speaker 1: Senate will also pass them. That will mean there's no

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Speaker 1: chance for Democrats to shut down the government anymore of

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Speaker 1: this fiscal year. The next big crisis will be in

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Speaker 1: September and October, all right. Meanwhile, there were sparks flying

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Speaker 1: earlier today on Capitol Hills. The House Judiciary Committee, led

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Speaker 1: by Jim Jordan, held the herring with former Special Consul

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Speaker 1: Jack Smith, who it was bombasting. Smith defended his decision

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Speaker 1: to prosecute then former President Donald Trump for his alleged

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Speaker 1: unlawful retention of classified documents and his efforts to overturn

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Speaker 1: the results of the twenty twenty election. Smith said he

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Speaker 1: stood by his decisions as Special counsel, including bringing charges

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Speaker 1: against Trump, as well as saying that if he was

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Speaker 1: asked to do it again based on the same facts,

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Speaker 1: he'd do it again. However, House Judicialecurity Chairman Jim Jordan Well,

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Speaker 1: he read them the Riot Act several times, starting with

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Speaker 1: his opening statement. He said, quote, it was always about

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Speaker 1: politics to get President Trump. They were willing to do

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Speaker 1: just about anything. No one in this hearing agreed. Jack

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Speaker 1: Smith and the Democrats were literally in another universe compared

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Speaker 1: to the Republicans. We're very lucky. We're going to turn

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Speaker 1: to one of the member of Congress room was in

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Speaker 1: that hearing all day and just a little bit as

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Speaker 1: well as voting on all of these historic measures that

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Speaker 1: passed through. Before we get to that, in Congressman Tom Tiffany,

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Speaker 1: let me turn to my amazing coast amandahead. Mandy, you've

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Speaker 1: got some other things you've been watching all day. Take

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Speaker 1: a lot of news all around the world.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have President Trump, who is on his way

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Speaker 2: back to the United States after his very successful trip

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Speaker 2: to Switzerland and where he spoke at the World Economic Forum.

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Speaker 3: He gaggled on Air Force one just a little while ago.

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Speaker 3: But we also know that he got a.

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Speaker 2: Deal framework established for Greenland and he inaugurated the first

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Speaker 2: ever Board of Peace with several world leaders to rebuild Gaza.

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Speaker 2: Here is President Trump, officially ratifying the Charter.

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Speaker 4: And now to bring the Board of Peace into full force.

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Speaker 4: I asked Sheikh Isa of Bahrain and Foreign Minister Brita

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Speaker 4: of Morocco to join me in signing and ratifying the

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Speaker 4: Board of Peace Charter. Thank you very much, everybody appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations President Trump.

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Speaker 6: The Charter is now in full force and the Board

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Speaker 6: of Peace is now an official international organization.

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Speaker 2: And after the initial signing, many other countries including Argentina, Indonesia,

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Speaker 2: and the United Arab Emirates joined President Trump and ratify

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Speaker 2: find the Charter now. While all countries like Canada, the UK,

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Speaker 2: and Russia, along with several others, did not attend the event, however,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't exclude them from potentially joining in the near future.

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Speaker 2: Canadian Prime Minister Mark Kearney, for example, stated that he

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Speaker 2: agrees in the principle, but further details need to be

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Speaker 2: worked out as he is concerned about the Board's structure

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Speaker 2: set out by President Trump. Sectary of State Mark or

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Speaker 2: Rubio also had a message for President Trump and the

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Speaker 3: Take a listen.

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Speaker 7: This is not just a board of piece, this is

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Speaker 7: a board of action. Just like President Trump is a

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Speaker 7: president of action. A lot of times people like to

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Speaker 7: give speeches. I've been to many at these forums, and

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Speaker 7: they're not useless, and they're not not they have utility

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Speaker 7: in many cases. But oftentimes in international affairs, we often

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Speaker 7: find ourselves at events where people are reading these scripted statements,

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Speaker 7: these strongly worded letters that they put out, but no action.

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Speaker 8: Nothing happens.

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Speaker 7: This is a group of leaders that are about action,

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Speaker 7: and the President of the United States is a president.

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Speaker 2: Of action, president of action, of course, and John Secretary

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Speaker 2: of Rubio might actually be the only person on that

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Speaker 2: stage who thinks that there has been good things that

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Speaker 2: faced with people who criticize him behind his back, criticize

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Speaker 3: And he goes in there.

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Speaker 2: And he plows ahead and he does exactly what he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he gets done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, whether it's the Board of Peace or a framework

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Speaker 1: for a Greenland deal, there was a lot that was

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Speaker 1: to get to that vote, that one we just told

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Speaker 1: you about involving the Warpowers Act. But he joined us

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Speaker 1: for a few minutes. Congressman and candidate for Governor, Tom Tiffany,

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Speaker 1: take a watch what we talk to me covered a

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Speaker 1: lot of subjects. Joining us now on a day when

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Speaker 1: fiscal sanity finally reigns supreme in Washington. A champion of

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Speaker 1: that fiscal Senate, Kenity, Wisconsin Congress, and now I'm candidate

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Speaker 1: for governor of Wisconsin. Tom Tiffany, Congresson. Great to have

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Speaker 1: you back on the show.

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Speaker 8: Amandon John.

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Speaker 9: It's really good to join you in Yes all twelve

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Speaker 9: appropriations bills. So I'm almost six years into this. I

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Speaker 9: didn't think we'd see that day. It's here today.

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Speaker 1: It is an amazing accomplishment and it puts the country

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Speaker 1: on a path and maybe really start getting on top

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Speaker 1: of its finances like we all have to do in

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Speaker 1: our personal lives. Tell us what you think the long

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Speaker 1: term trend lines are. Now, Now that the Congress can

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Speaker 1: prove that it did it, it can do it, how

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Speaker 9: So I think the thing to celebrate here is that

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Speaker 9: we actually brought some modicum of fiscal responsibility through the

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Speaker 9: reconciliation process and all the things that happened in twenty

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Speaker 9: that this is the be all and all, but it's

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Speaker 8: Can continue to do this.

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Speaker 9: And I hope the voters realize what has happened here,

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Speaker 9: that there's actually some physcal responsibility starting to go on

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Speaker 9: in Washington, DC. If we do this long term, we

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Speaker 1: What a great idea.

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Speaker 2: It would be amazing to see and maybe even a

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Speaker 2: cultural shift. I want to ask you fireworks on Capitol

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Speaker 2: Hill today, Special Council Jack Smith, answering questions, and you

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Speaker 2: brought up something that was interesting because I think a

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Speaker 2: of going after President Trump. But you rightly pointed out

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Speaker 2: that this has been a long career, not just the

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm really glad you caught that, Amanda, because that's

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Speaker 9: what I was trying to do, is set up. How

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Speaker 9: did we end up with a Jack Smith who used

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Speaker 8: Go after President Trump?

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Speaker 9: And soul I mean, he worked with Lois Lerner when

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Speaker 9: nonprofit status. We had Jack Smith overturned eight to oh

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Speaker 9: on the Governor McDonald decision in Virginia. Even one of

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Speaker 9: This is a guy that has at every step of

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Speaker 8: Down by courts to set him in his place.

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Speaker 1: All the things that hid what was hp most important

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Speaker 9: Well, I just you know, I really think it is

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Speaker 9: And I think it was Chairman Jordan that laid out

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Speaker 8: He would not be an honest special prosecutor.

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Speaker 2: Then another thing that came out today, We've learned so

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Speaker 2: much thanks to in large part to my co host

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Speaker 2: John Solomon, We've learned so much about what happened on

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Speaker 2: it looks very very different from the narrative that was

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Speaker 3: He has not budged, He hasn't moved on his opinion.

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Speaker 3: He is still digging in his heels.

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Speaker 2: And we're calcitrant that it was Donald Trump's fault that

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Speaker 3: Is that what you learned from him?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what he was saying all day.

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Speaker 9: And of course on the other side, the Democrats were

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Speaker 9: defending him. I mean one of them saying he is

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Speaker 9: the gold standard of prosecutors. As I said at the

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Speaker 9: he really needs a tutorial in the First Amendment. If

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Speaker 9: this is the gold standard, somebody that's overturned at the

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Speaker 9: Supreme Court on a major case eight old where all

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Speaker 9: the justices are saying, hey, you got it all wrong here, buddy.

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Speaker 9: If that's the gold standard, God help us, and hopefully

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Speaker 9: Jack Smith is better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a scary standard if it becomes the norm

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Speaker 1: in Washington. There was a revelation that we posted earlier

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Congressman, I want to get into your gubernatorial campaign.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Congress. When I started my

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Speaker 3: Welcome back everybody. There are a few things that you can.

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Speaker 2: The President has been taking a leading role in trying

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Speaker 10: We've reduced that the Danish authorities have allowed over years

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Speaker 1: It's amazing there was such an extraordinary contrast at La

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Speaker 1: And then you have the British Prime Minister saying goodbye

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Speaker 3: It's just cutting off their noses, bite their faces.

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Speaker 10: The Prime Minister Carney's trip to Beijing makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: are very close by, and we are willing.

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Speaker 3: To do what it takes.

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Speaker 10: Yes, I mean, there's there's a carrier strike group that

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Speaker 10: got underway was finishing up preps for deployment from the

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Speaker 10: East coast, and similarly another one from the West coast.

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Speaker 10: We'll see where they end up. And clearly the carry

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Speaker 10: strike group that was in the Caribbean ostensibly is also

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Speaker 10: headed in that I'm sorry, the one that was in

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Speaker 10: the South China Sea actually is headed towards Iran as

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Speaker 10: probably within striking distance already. So the message to Tehran

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Speaker 10: is we're watching and we have a hammer ready should

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Speaker 10: you get out of line.

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Speaker 5: And again it's.

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Speaker 10: Important to note a lot has been made that the

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Speaker 10: protest have subsided. They certainly are not over, and I

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Speaker 10: think it's important that the President and many other Western

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Speaker 10: countries increasingly show solidarity in support outside for what's happening

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Speaker 10: inside Iran. And there's a lot of tools on the economic,

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Speaker 10: the political, and diplomatic that can be applied to try

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Speaker 10: to isolate, pressurize, and remove options from that regime as

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Speaker 10: it tries to continue to collapse the protest and to

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Speaker 10: suppress violently these anti regime forces that are long suppressed

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Speaker 10: and certainly give the people of Ran a better future

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Speaker 10: if they're allowed to follow their natural course.

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Speaker 1: Does the president act if he decides to take the

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Speaker 1: military option. Does the president act in latterly even just

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Speaker 1: with Israel, or does he try to create a world coalition,

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Speaker 1: get some of the Arab states and maybe the UN

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Speaker 1: or someone to kick in. Obviously the UN you're going

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Speaker 1: to get vetoed by China and Russia, so that's a

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Speaker 1: dead end. But do you try to build a coalition

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Speaker 1: of the willing to show that this is more than

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Speaker 1: just the United States and Israel acting.

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Speaker 10: I think it will happen organically. It's I don't think

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Speaker 10: it's necessary to build one. Certainly the United States doesn't

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Speaker 10: need that to act as necessary for its own interest

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Speaker 10: should the Iranian regime be stupid enough to attack us

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Speaker 10: at this moment. But I think if there's a need

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Speaker 10: to attack the regime in support of the free, the

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Speaker 10: free Iranian people, the forces are standing up there, it's

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Speaker 10: going to be done very judiciously and very intelligently, so

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Speaker 10: that it doesn't look like the United States is taking

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Speaker 10: over this movement, this very popular movement, to topple this regime.

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Speaker 10: There's a lot of things that can go after the

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Speaker 10: authority of these elicit arms like the Baje, should these

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Speaker 10: armed thuds uggsit and the enforces of the regime on

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Speaker 10: the streets, as well as the IRGC and their ability

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Speaker 10: to raise money and support and get folks like Hezbola

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Speaker 10: and Yemeny and the Huthis who are now on the

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Speaker 10: streets of Tehran the muscle of the new muscle for

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Speaker 10: this regime. There's a way to try to interfere with

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Speaker 10: that outside Iran to have an effect that's supportive of

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Speaker 10: the people there.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's the best course if it's necessary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, before we let you go, I want to bring

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Speaker 2: Venezuela into the conversation because you talked about the fundraising

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Speaker 2: nature of IRGC, and it's pretty much a plus plus.

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Speaker 2: Venezuela as a country was very poor for its people,

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Speaker 2: but the folks at the top had no problem using

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Speaker 2: the wealth that they had to fund regimes like Iran.

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Speaker 2: How does that play into this whole conversation considering what

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Speaker 2: happened in Venezuela three weeks ago.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it's Venezuela is part of a global

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Speaker 10: network of I listed activities.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's a trillion dollar business.

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Speaker 10: Just looking at the cocaine narcotic cartels that were flowing through.

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Speaker 10: They weren't necessarily growing the coca in Venezuela, but they

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Speaker 10: were processing it, they were shipping it, they were managing it.

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Speaker 10: They had all of the trappings of a nation state,

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Speaker 10: you know, protection racket that they could operate under. Well,

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Speaker 10: that's gone. It's going to complicate their business. But this

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Speaker 10: dark fleet of illicit movement of oil on tankers, the Venezuelas.

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Speaker 10: Venezuelans are one of the nodes. The Russians are another

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Speaker 10: major benefactor and players in this. But taking the Venezuelans

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Speaker 10: off of this at licit energy market hurts China and

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Speaker 10: certainly makes it a lot hotter for them to get

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Speaker 10: a cheap oil on the on the market, in the

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Speaker 10: dark and the black market. So there's a lot that

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Speaker 10: Venezuela had its hand in. And by getting that regime

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Speaker 10: to change, it's definitely good for the United States and

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Speaker 10: it uproots a whole bunch of nefarios alicit activities across

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Speaker 10: the world. But certainly those that have suffered under addiction

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Speaker 10: and the criminality that comes with narcotics trafficking on our streets,

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Speaker 10: but also across Latin America.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Brenton Seler, Senior recent search fellow at the Heritage Foundation.

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure having you with us, Thanks for.

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Speaker 5: Being here, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 12: Have a good night, absolutely too.

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Speaker 2: All Right, everybody, We're going to stay on the conversation

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Speaker 2: of Aaron and continue the discussion on the other side

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Speaker 2: of this break.

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Speaker 1: we're going to stay on the subject of Iran. So

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Speaker 1: much going on now with the internet blackout, it's a

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Speaker 1: lot harder to tell what's going on on the ground.

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Speaker 1: But we have a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee

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Speaker 1: of the National Council of Resistance of Iran, one of

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Speaker 1: the main opposition and resistance groups in Iran. They have

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Speaker 1: incredible ground intelligence joining us now. A good friend of

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Speaker 1: the show, doctor Ali safavii Alli. Good to have you

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Speaker 1: back on.

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Speaker 11: Well, Hello John, and great to be with you on

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Speaker 11: Hello Amm. Dougle livening to you as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great moment. So the leader of the

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Speaker 1: m e K Marianjavi, said that she believes that this

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Speaker 1: protest movement is irreversible, meaning it is just going to

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Speaker 1: continue until there's an Overthilm tell us what we're seeing

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Speaker 1: on the ground. There are reports that it's some of

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Speaker 1: the protest activity has declined, what do you know from

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Speaker 1: your sources on the ground.

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Speaker 11: But naturally, given the tremendous brutality with which the regime

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Speaker 11: reacted to this nationwide uprising, that there's going to be,

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Speaker 11: if you will, some slowing of the pulse of the uprising,

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Speaker 11: but that is a far cry from ending. Remember, even

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Speaker 11: at the time of the Shaw, there were ebbs and

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Speaker 11: flows in the anti Shah protests. The Shaw even organized

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Speaker 11: counter demonstrations to show that he has support. But at

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Speaker 11: the end of the day, we all saw that the

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Speaker 11: will of the ringing people prevail. And I think this

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Speaker 11: is exactly the same case in Iran right now. And

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Speaker 11: there's no question that the developments, especially of the past

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Speaker 11: twenty five days since December twenty eighth, have made it

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Speaker 11: abundantly clear that the situation as far as the Iranian

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Speaker 11: people on the one hand and the regime and the

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Speaker 11: other is concerned we will not return to the pre

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Speaker 11: December twenty eighth status. Co It seems to me that

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Speaker 11: in many ways the wall of fear has shifted from

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Speaker 11: the people to the Iranian regime, which is why they

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Speaker 11: have imposed care FEUs in virtually every city.

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Speaker 13: They have set up checkpoints.

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Speaker 11: The revolutionary guards, the passiege have orders to fire and

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Speaker 11: anybody who moves around. But there are as we speak, clashes,

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Speaker 11: hid and run skirmishes between the rebelliate youth and the

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Speaker 11: ILGC in different parts of Iran, in Kermanshaw, in Ahmad

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Speaker 11: than she was, even several locations in Tehran. Some passage

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Speaker 11: bases have been sate allied and torched. And of course

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Speaker 11: in many cases that the youth are standing up and fighting,

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Speaker 11: they're not running away, and they're using whatever it means

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Speaker 11: that it's at the disposal to punish the IOGC and.

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Speaker 13: The revolutionary because, as you know, the regime.

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Speaker 11: Its help stated that among the casualties there were five

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Speaker 11: hundred members of dissecuty forces. They said eight hundred different

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Speaker 11: vehicles by the police vehicles IOGC vehicles have been destroyed.

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Speaker 11: Many of the passage centers IOGC centers have been towards

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Speaker 11: so the situation, to be honest with you, is a

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Speaker 11: very fluid situation, and I think one should expect this

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Speaker 11: igniting sooner or later. And I think next time around

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Speaker 11: this will be far more ferocious and far more wide

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Speaker 11: spread than what we witness in the past twenty five days.

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Speaker 2: I think for a lot of people, they in the

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Speaker 2: first three days of this uprising, people felt like it

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Speaker 2: was much more durable than anything we've seen in the

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Speaker 2: last ten fifteen years. I want to ask you, you know,

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Speaker 2: President Trump obviously has a very close eye on this situation,

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Speaker 2: and he is constantly weighing the decisions, weighing what he

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Speaker 2: should or should not do. What is the best case

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Speaker 2: scenario for Iran as far as what the United States can.

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Speaker 11: Do well, I think missus Radjeby told you in that

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Speaker 11: excellent interview you did that at the end of the day,

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Speaker 11: change is responsibility of the Iranian people and organized resistance

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Speaker 11: and is not going to happen by calls from exile,

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Speaker 11: by some I guess personalities, or by the will of

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Speaker 11: foreign governments. Without an organize, a battle capable, organized force underground,

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Speaker 11: this region will not be overthrown. But I think what

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Speaker 11: the Naited says can do at your previous guest, that

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Speaker 11: Brent Sadler said very correctly is to make a very

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Speaker 11: unequivocal statement that the Iranian people have the right to

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Speaker 11: overthrow this regime and that the United States recognizes the

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Speaker 11: right of the Iranian people to use all available means

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Speaker 11: to them to confront the IRGC. After all, what can

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Speaker 11: you do when the IOGC uses fifty caliber machine guns

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Speaker 11: mounted on jeeps to fire indiscriminately at the people.

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Speaker 13: That's one thing.

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Speaker 11: Secondly, I think the lifeline of this regime must be

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Speaker 11: cut off. Every battle of oil that they sell turns

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Speaker 11: into bullets that pierces the hearts of Iranian youth industries today. Third,

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Speaker 11: they should be banished from the international community. Why are

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Speaker 11: the regime's ambassadors still roaming around in Europe?

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Speaker 13: And why are.

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Speaker 11: European ambassadors selling in Iran? Why are the embassies is

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Speaker 11: still operating. Fourth, the regime's leaders must be held accountable,

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Speaker 11: hauled before international tribunals on the basis of universal declar

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Speaker 11: universal jurisdiction because of atrocities crimes against humanity that they

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Speaker 11: have already perpetrated against the Iranian people. So there's a

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Speaker 11: whole lost of options available to the United States to undertake.

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Speaker 11: And I think when the Iranian people see that, when

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Speaker 11: they recognize that the United States is standing on their side,

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Speaker 11: they will be more involvedant than more encouraged to take

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Speaker 11: the fight with the regime.

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Speaker 13: And is suppressive apparatus to the next level.

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Speaker 1: Falie. There's a lot of hardware that the President moved

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Speaker 1: to the region, at least two paddle carriers, two battle

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Speaker 1: group carriers, two carrier groups, and then you got other

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Speaker 1: assets already in the region. Is the expectation that they

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Speaker 1: will strike military or is it a blockade that keeps

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Speaker 1: that oil from leaving? What do you think those military

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Speaker 1: assets are likely to do?

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Speaker 11: But to be honest with you, I'm not in neither

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Speaker 11: in the situation room nor Pentagon planning department, but I think,

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Speaker 11: quite frankly, the moment the Iranian regime and the Mullas

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Speaker 11: get the message that this will not be business as

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Speaker 11: usual and this is not empty rhetoric, I think they

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Speaker 11: will think twice. And to this extent, of course, they

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Speaker 11: are now trying to play the victim and say, well,

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Speaker 11: this was all sedition, these were terrorists. Well, one has

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Speaker 11: to ask, well, this was all over the country in

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Speaker 11: thirty one provinces, in more than two hundred and sixty cities,

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Speaker 11: in four hundred different locations inside the country. And I

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Speaker 11: think before in a was shot was caught, a lot

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Speaker 11: of people saw who these folks are, especially.

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Speaker 13: Young folks, women and men.

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Speaker 11: Fighting out in many cases with bare hands against DIRGC. So,

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Speaker 11: quite frankly, I think a decisive and a show up

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Speaker 11: strength on the part of the United States will only

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Speaker 11: enhance what the people of Iran are doing. But I

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Speaker 11: emphasized that change in Iran must come from within. It

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Speaker 11: has to be organic, it has to be indigenous, and

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Speaker 11: quite frankly, they Areadian people are ready to take the fight.

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Speaker 13: To the Molards, and of course the resistance units have

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Speaker 13: the mek.

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Speaker 11: By the way, among the three thousand that have been killed,

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Speaker 11: among the four hundred and fifty we have identified, there

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Speaker 11: are seven members of the resistance units, ranging in age

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Speaker 11: from seventeen to seventy four, that unfortunately have lost their

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Speaker 11: lives in the fight for freedom in Iran. So I

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Speaker 11: emphasized that the Ivan year resistance is prepared not only

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Speaker 11: on the ground, but also it has missus rage. We

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Speaker 11: told Amanda, a political alternative.

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Speaker 14: In place with a ready made plan for post geography

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Speaker 14: iron and of course that plan enjoys the supportive thousands

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Speaker 14: of parliamentarians, including about partisan support of the US househol representatives.

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Speaker 1: Important, important, because that's the key to transition. Ill always

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Speaker 1: great to have you on the show. We're watching everything

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Speaker 1: closely in the people of Iran. We need to know

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Speaker 1: the American public support them. Well, have you on the

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Speaker 1: show again, real quickly. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 13: Thank you very much for the opportunity. Really grateful, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great conversation. All right, folks, We're gonna take a

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Speaker 1: quick commercial break when we come back. Tomorrow is the

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Speaker 1: big March for Life in Washington, a historic moment. There's

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Speaker 1: also a lot to talk about the extraordinary Catholic Church,

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Speaker 1: of what's going on both in America and abroad with

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Speaker 1: tope Leo. We're going to get all to again with

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Speaker 1: all of that in our next with our next guest,

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Speaker 1: Frank Pavim, right after the VS.

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Speaker 12: Messages, welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 2: From protecting religious freedom and parental rights to affirming faith

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Speaker 2: in America and working to end taxpayer funding for abortions,

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Speaker 2: President Trump's America First Agenda is focused on re establishing

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Speaker 2: Christian values as the bedrock of our nation. And there's

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Speaker 2: no better reminder of that than the March for Life.

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Speaker 2: It is happening tomorrow and joining us to discuss it.

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Speaker 2: As someone who will be a part of the events tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: he is the director of Priests for Life and the

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Speaker 2: national co chair of Pro Life Voices for Trump and

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Speaker 2: a great friend of the program, Father Frank Pavone.

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Speaker 1: Father thinks, hey, good to be with you both.

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Speaker 12: Thank you well, good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Another historic day happening tomorrow. March for Life, tell us

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Speaker 2: what this year is going.

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Speaker 3: To look like?

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Speaker 6: Well this year, of course, Well, first of all, the

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Speaker 6: March for Life is not just one event. There are

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Speaker 6: literally dozens of events. Some of them were today, some

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Speaker 6: will be tomorrow, some will be Saturday, and there's also

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Speaker 6: a big March for Life in San Francisco Saturday, the

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Speaker 6: second largest annual pro life event this year. Of course,

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Speaker 6: America two fifth is one of the big themes, and

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Speaker 6: we have a national prayer service in the morning that

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Speaker 6: I lead over at Constitution Hall, and we're really going

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Speaker 6: to emphasize that theme there. We're also going to honor

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Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk, whom I had been working in the summertime

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Speaker 6: to invite to the prayer service. So we're going to

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Speaker 6: give him posthumously an award for his own pro life commitment.

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Speaker 6: But we're going to see Americans from all over the

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Speaker 6: country coming tomorrow, singing, praying, joyful, people of.

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Speaker 1: All ages, all religious.

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Speaker 6: Backgrounds, children, the elderly, and everyone in between, standing up

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Speaker 6: for the most fundamental right that we have, as our

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Speaker 6: declaration declares.

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Speaker 1: On the eve of this great event, some announcements by

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration the end of fetal Tischel research taken

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Speaker 1: from elective abortions. That's something that I think the pro

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Speaker 1: life movement's been looking for a long time. There's still

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Speaker 1: large policy progresses may being made in the pro life movement.

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Speaker 6: There has never been a more effective pro life president

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Speaker 6: than president, and we don't have to be. You know,

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Speaker 6: a lot of the even some of my colleagues in

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Speaker 6: the pro life leadership, we worry about, you know, some

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Speaker 6: of the things he says off the cuff, and stop

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Speaker 6: worrying about that. Look at the results.

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Speaker 3: We all know.

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Speaker 6: He's a transactional man, you know, and he'll say something

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Speaker 6: and then do something. It won't quite that doesn't matter,

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Speaker 6: look at the result. Nobody's given more results than he has.

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Speaker 6: And we're greatly true.

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Speaker 2: And I know a lot of people even before his

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Speaker 2: first term, they talked about him as a Cyrus type

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Speaker 2: figure coming.

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Speaker 3: In the office.

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Speaker 1: Is it true?

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Speaker 4: It is?

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Speaker 12: And you know you look at the way that.

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Speaker 2: He's maneuvering exactly exactly like you said. The proof is

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Speaker 2: in the putting of what he's doing. What more can

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Speaker 2: he do in this second term to move the to

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Speaker 2: move the ball not only for life, but also to

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Speaker 2: bring our country back to it today.

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Speaker 3: Are Christian?

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Speaker 6: Well, here's the thing about what prisident Trump is doing.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't need him to give my pro

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Speaker 6: life speeches.

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Speaker 1: I'll give the speeches.

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Speaker 6: I'll articulate to principles as well all my colleagues in

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Speaker 6: pro life leadership. We need him to defend the tools

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Speaker 6: that the pro life movement needs to advance its goal,

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Speaker 6: and he is doing that. That's what we need more

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Speaker 6: of in the second term, and I'm confident we're going

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Speaker 6: to get it. We can't protect the unborn without freedom speech,

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Speaker 6: freedom of religion, freedom to protests like we're going to

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Speaker 6: march tomorrow, And he's zeroed in on all these essential

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Speaker 6: tools that we need not only to accomplish our goal

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Speaker 6: of protecting the unborn, but every good movement in America,

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Speaker 6: every good social justice effort, needs these fundamental tools that

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Speaker 6: are there in our Bill of Rights, in our Constitution.

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Speaker 1: But the way no have been eroded and attacked by

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Speaker 1: the left. I need look no further than Great Britain

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Speaker 1: to realize that if those tools are taken, how quickly

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Speaker 1: the ability to even speak up is gone.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: We have people praying in front on the street and

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Speaker 1: they get arrested because they might be thinking about opposing

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Speaker 1: abortion in Britain. It's just crazy. I want to turn

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Speaker 1: to an act that I still haven't gotten over. I've

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Speaker 1: always believed there were some lines in politics at Warncross

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Speaker 1: one of those where you didn't take your political protests

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Speaker 1: and interrupt a house of worship. What happened Sunday in

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Speaker 1: Minnesota still has shocked a lot of people. Let's you

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Speaker 1: get your reactions.

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Speaker 6: Well, listen, I wouldn't be too shocked. The left has

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Speaker 6: told us who they are, and we should believe them.

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Speaker 6: They hate religion, they hate God, they hate freedom. So

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Speaker 6: what is left to do except to disrupt the church

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Speaker 6: serves of course they're going to do that. They're going

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Speaker 6: to do more of that unless we stop them. And

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Speaker 6: and one of the ways we have to stop them

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Speaker 6: is exactly again going back to President Trump's results oriented

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Speaker 6: this form of governing. Look at the religious liberty efforts

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Speaker 6: he's doing. The Religious Liberty Commission is going to be

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Speaker 6: meeting again here in DC in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: I'll be there for that, and and and and that's

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Speaker 1: what we have to do. We find we defend our rights.

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Speaker 6: By exercising them without fear, so you won't want churches

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Speaker 6: to be invaded, you know, Well, let's do a better

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Speaker 6: job teaching, preaching, recruiting, and and and and proclaiming the gospel.

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Speaker 2: Frank I saw some devastating information a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Despite the overturning of rov Way, despite the that especially

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Speaker 2: a lot of Red states have taken measures to pass

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Speaker 2: heartbeat bills to protect life in general, the number of

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Speaker 2: abortions is up.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 6: Here's the thing about that, though, you know, one thing

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Speaker 6: we can say about the statistics on abortion is that

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Speaker 6: since Dobbs, they are more unreliable than ever. People crossing

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Speaker 6: state lines, mailing of abortion drugs, and whatnot. Now, the

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Speaker 6: fact that an abortion pill might be sold or mailed,

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Speaker 6: that doesn't mean that it was taken. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 6: an abortion actually happened. So there's actually a lot of

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Speaker 6: uncertainty here about the numbers. But what you say shows

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Speaker 6: that you know laws and policies are not enough. The

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Speaker 6: pregnancy center movement needs to be strengthened, and the individual

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Speaker 6: advocacy of every American needs to be increased to persuade

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Speaker 6: people and the voices of silent no more. By the way,

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Speaker 6: at the end of the march tomorrow, when it reaches

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Speaker 6: the court, we have a gathering of the people who've

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Speaker 6: had abortions. They're going to be sharing publicly their story,

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Speaker 6: one after the other. That kind of thing will help

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Speaker 6: these numbers to come down.

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Speaker 1: People will realize, hey, this is not something that helps

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Speaker 1: us in any way. The most powerful story I think

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Speaker 1: I've listened to in the last year as a woman

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Speaker 1: who started the abortion pill process, then had regret and

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Speaker 1: quickly stopped it and was able to Now the state

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Speaker 1: went after for a while in Colorado until they finally

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Speaker 1: came to their senses. But her story of regret and

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Speaker 1: her story of pain, and her story of rejoicing that

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Speaker 1: you could hold that baby on her shoulder was probably

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Speaker 1: the most powerful story I've seen a long time. Before

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Speaker 1: we let you go, I want to get your take

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Speaker 1: on Pope Leo. He's a dynamic figure and American pope.

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Speaker 1: We haven't had one before. Yeah, how do you rate

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Speaker 1: his first few months in office? Better than Francis? But

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Speaker 1: kind of?

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Speaker 6: Then again, anybody would have been okay, but that means

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Speaker 6: something though, I mean the church, I think breathe a

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Speaker 6: sigh of relief. No disrespect intended, but we will face

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Speaker 6: the facts. Right, Pope ran has caused a lot of

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Speaker 6: confusion with Pope Leo. You know, there have been mixed signals.

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Speaker 6: I mean blessing a block of eyes, I mean climate

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Speaker 6: change is a.

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Speaker 1: Myth, and you know, why did he do that? Why

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Speaker 1: did he have to do that? But here's what, here's

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Speaker 1: my other thought.

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Speaker 6: When a pope first takes over there, we have to

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Speaker 6: understand there's been a lot of things already in progress

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Speaker 6: from the previous pope and it doesn't all get canceled.

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Speaker 6: So even like one of his first documents, he said, well,

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Speaker 6: you know, Pope Francis wrote much of this, so I

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Speaker 6: would say, yes, let's address I mean, I think we

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Speaker 6: as Catholics have to have more of a sense of

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Speaker 6: freedom to be able to express our concerns about what

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Speaker 6: a pope does. It's not disloyally to a pope, a bishop,

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Speaker 6: a pastor to say, hey, where's that coming from or

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Speaker 6: why are you saying that. There's a certain brand of

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Speaker 6: Catholicism that would say sit down and shut.

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Speaker 1: Up, And I don't think we need that anymore.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's and that's not authentic Catholicism anyway. Any

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Speaker 6: healthy family, you can express disagreement and concern. So I

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Speaker 6: think the jury is still out in a lot of

882
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Speaker 6: ways in the things that he has done that are questionable. Hey,

883
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Speaker 6: let's speak up, let's have a dialogue in the family.

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Speaker 6: And then the final point is give them a little

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Speaker 6: more time in the sense that a lot of these

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Speaker 6: things we're seeing are echoes of Pope.

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Speaker 1: Francis, You're right, that's very true.

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Speaker 2: Director of a priest for life and good friend of

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Speaker 2: our program. Thanks so much for being a frank. Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: all right, everybody, We're going to take it very quick break,

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Speaker 2: but we have some final thoughts on the other side.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: A few thoughts before we head out for the night, John,

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Speaker 2: Law and order is back in style, and the proof

895
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Speaker 2: is in the putting twenty percent reduction in murders last year,

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Speaker 2: the largest drop on record.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's the results driven administration, right, Statistics matter,

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Speaker 1: data matters. They don't care about the rhetoric. They care

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Speaker 1: about the results. And I think that long term that's

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Speaker 1: going to create a legitimacy in the electric when people

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Speaker 1: realize I can turn to just about any statistic guy's

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Speaker 1: concerned about three years ago, and it's different now. You

904
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Speaker 1: did such a great job on the one year university

905
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Speaker 1: president of putting ten or twelve statistics together. Inflation and

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Speaker 1: gas price to egg prices and the number of terrorists

907
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Speaker 1: that were killed oversea mean just amazing numbers. This is

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Speaker 1: another big one that really shows the difference. There's also

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Speaker 1: a story turn. I think when we had Cash on

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Speaker 1: the show this past time, but last time, he talked

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Speaker 1: a lot about the strategy, which was it wasn't all

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Speaker 1: about the numbers. It was about getting the big kingpins

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Speaker 1: off because if you cripple the top of these crime morganizations,

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Speaker 1: the gang's violence goes down because there's just no command structure.

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Speaker 1: There's been a strategy to it that sometimes isn't fully

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Speaker 1: appreciated the media. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately, when it comes to the statistics of murderers

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Speaker 2: going down, we also have to couple that with some

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Speaker 2: other statistics that apparently assassination culture is booming, especially among women,

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Speaker 2: which is bizarre. But a new survey shows that sixty

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Speaker 2: seven percent of left leaning respondency political violence as justified,

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Speaker 2: compared to fifty four percent on the right.

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Speaker 3: Who are the fifty four percent on the right?

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Speaker 2: First of all, there's never a reason for this, John

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Speaker 2: That number, especially pertaining to the left, doesn't really surprise me.

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 1: It goes to the culture that we just talked to

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Speaker 1: Father Frank about. Who would have thought that it would

929
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Speaker 1: be a great idea to go in and disrupt the

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Speaker 1: church and then come out and say the reason I

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Speaker 1: disrupted was because I think they're white supremacists people worshiping Jesus.

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Speaker 1: This anger. I will say this very different from the

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Speaker 1: time when I started as a reporter in the eighties

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Speaker 1: and early nineties. The left is the party of anger

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Speaker 1: and hatred and intolerance. There are three attributes that and

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Speaker 1: it is going to collapse under the weight of that.

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Speaker 1: It needs to become nice again. It just needs to

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Speaker 1: We can disagree and battle things out in the courts

939
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Speaker 1: and the politics without destroying each other, blocking ice agents

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Speaker 1: and interrupting church proceedings or assassinating people like Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: And but I don't think the left mentality has changed it.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't felt the penalty for that conduct yet.

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Speaker 2: No, it and it looks to me so different than

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Speaker 2: it did. You know, the bleeding heart liberals of the

945
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Speaker 2: sixties and seventies, they weren't angry.

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Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't know, I wasn't alive, but

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Speaker 3: they didn't seem angry.

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Speaker 1: Protester pretty yell, that's true. That is list some cities

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Speaker 1: on fire.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's I don't know, it's more visceral now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And also it's just more condoned. You have a

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Speaker 1: judge today that wouldn't let Pam Bondy arrest Don Lemon,

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Speaker 1: even though he clearly is part of the disruption. So

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Speaker 1: it's so embedded that you can't even get justice anymore

955
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Speaker 1: because some of these judges are off their off the razors.

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Speaker 1: So more to be discussed, with a lot of history ahead.

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Speaker 3: Of us absolutely all right, everybody that's going to do

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Speaker 3: it for us tonight.

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Speaker 2: But we hope you have a wonderful evening and we'll

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Speaker 2: be back here tomorrow night at six pm Eastern. Here

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Speaker 2: on Real America's Voicecrint Stinchfield is going

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Speaker 3: To take you through the next hour