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Speaker 1: A pulse check on the defending champions in Denver, the

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Speaker 1: secrets of Jimmy Butler and Heat culture, the latest with

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Speaker 1: the Knicks and star guard Jalen Brunson, and a much

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Speaker 1: anticipated update on the rec league saga that has captivated America.

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Speaker 1: All that next, you're on This League Uncut.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to This League Uncut in the rule of twenty

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Speaker 2: four hour NBA News. Misters, you'll Chris hands, it's time,

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Speaker 2: works time, it's so time. This League Uncut is underway

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Speaker 2: and on fire. This should be a good one.

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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome in to a weekend edition of This

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Speaker 1: League Uncut. We had to do some late Friday recording

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Speaker 1: and push this thing back a day because of our

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Speaker 1: stars crazy travel schedule, but man, it looks like Chris

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Speaker 1: Haynes had quite the eventful trip to Denver. Last time

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Speaker 1: we did a pod, Chris sounded a little worried that

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Speaker 1: maybe the Heat with all their recent suspensions, and maybe

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Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna be much of a game. But man,

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Speaker 1: you saw a good game. You got some time with

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Speaker 1: the defending champs, who've been fantastic since the All Star break.

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Speaker 1: You got some time with Jimmy Butler and then before

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Speaker 1: this pod, you found a way to squeeze in a

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Speaker 1: Bleacher Report live stream with Jalen Brunson. I'm a little

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Speaker 1: hurt that I wasn't invited, but hopefully I will get

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Speaker 3: Chris Haynes, Well, star, I consider you family. You just

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Speaker 3: show up. Just knock on the door. That's what my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just made me feel better because inside I

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Speaker 1: felt like you pitch Jalen on coming on the pod first,

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Speaker 1: and he was like, no, I don't want any part

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Speaker 1: of Stein. I'll do your live I'll do your live

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Speaker 3: It just me and you. That was not the case

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Speaker 3: at all. But Stein, thank you for bringing up all

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Speaker 3: the game. I covered, you know, everything that that's been

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Speaker 3: going on. But Steile, you forgot also did ig live

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Speaker 3: off of our basketball conversation we had.

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Speaker 1: You're right, I did forget. I saw that you called

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Speaker 1: my memory after after you tweeted out twice America wigh

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Speaker 1: in on this debate, is Aaron Haynes out of pocket America.

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Speaker 1: If you missed my first tweet, check it out again.

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Speaker 1: Is Aaron Haynes out of pocket, meet me live on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: As if we haven't discussed this enough.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, I don't want to spend too much time

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Speaker 3: for everybody that they know what I'm talking about by now.

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Speaker 3: But let me just read you a couple of comments.

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Speaker 3: That's some real NBA hoopers have to say. Wait then on,

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Speaker 3: here's Reggie Miller. Reggie Miller, He says, Chris, you're right,

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Speaker 3: text one of the captains individually. You can't group text

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Speaker 3: everyone because he was brought into the team by you. Now,

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Speaker 3: if Aaron is the best player on this wreck team,

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Speaker 3: then he can do what he wants. Y'all want win

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Speaker 1: Question, is he the best player on the team?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I explained that we were undefeated with him.

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Speaker 1: I brought him that you're the best player on the team.

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Speaker 3: Was No, I'm being real, Marie. One more Candace. What

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Speaker 1: I think she probably said the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, she says, she laughing emojis. I think timing is key.

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Speaker 3: If he would have weighed, maybe he was right, But yeah,

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Speaker 1: How many people showed up for the IG life.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, Jamal Crawford weighed in and Earl Watson, we have.

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Speaker 1: Did anyone did anyone like me? Side with producer Ryan

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Speaker 1: the ultimate blame lies with co captain Chris Haynes or

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Speaker 3: He was Jared Dudley. Way there, Jared, Jared.

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Speaker 3: Got Jokics concern and he is he is a problem. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's everybody, right, It's not like he's holding court with

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Speaker 3: Told that as of now, the Dipper Nuggets have removed

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Speaker 3: There's so much more that goes into it emotionally, physically, spiritually,

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Speaker 3: and then there has to be a connectivity with all

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Speaker 3: in order to accomplish the goal of winning championship. What

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Speaker 3: struck me is that he said, it's not even about

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Speaker 3: going into the playoffs healthy. It's about getting all your

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Speaker 3: competitors lined up together to take on this challenge. You

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Speaker 3: can't control who's available. It's more of a mentality that

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Speaker 3: that struck me right there. I'm like, wow. So it's like,

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Speaker 3: so now you get to see like how how Miami

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00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 3: comes in with all these undrafted players, and it's it's

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Speaker 3: not about like going into the playoffs even as healthy

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Speaker 3: as you can be, you know, with the with the

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Speaker 3: best talent you have. It's a mindset change that you know.

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Speaker 3: It's it's almost like they tell these guys, listen, man,

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Speaker 3: I don't care where you at, where you come from.

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Speaker 3: Our goal is to win a championship period. And it's

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Speaker 3: ingrained in their in their heads. And so that's how

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Speaker 3: Spoe was like, Okay, we miss a big player for

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Speaker 3: the star players out for weeks. Kyle Lowry is out.

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Speaker 3: If you know lap I think about Matt last year's team,

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Speaker 3: Max Strus had to look miss some games, or Gay

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Speaker 3: Vincent or Tyler Hero. It's really next man up. And

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Speaker 3: they still have the same goals of winning the championship.

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Speaker 3: That's just a different You don't hear that. I've never

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Speaker 3: heard that from the coach before. That's just a different.

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Speaker 1: I know you love going to Miami. Have you been

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Speaker 1: to Miami this season yet?

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Speaker 3: Oh? My goodness, stein Stein Stein So to answer your question, no,

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Speaker 3: but they were on my schedule for March. Excuse me.

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Speaker 3: They were on my schedule for April fourth game, Philly

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Speaker 3: at Miami. But as of last week, Stein, I got

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Speaker 3: pulled from that game. Not just me, TNT pulled that game.

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Speaker 1: So it's not because they didn't trust you on South Beach.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not that. I hope not. I hope they

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Speaker 3: didn't pull off old game because of what they think.

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Speaker 3: It's conceivable South Beach. Yeah, possibly, but I don't even

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Speaker 3: think I have that much power or that much sway.

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Speaker 3: But uh, I'm going to Dallas instead. There's a game

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Speaker 3: I forgotten. Thanks for the headline on April fourth. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: well it's not. I wouldn't looking forward to it, Starn,

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Speaker 3: So I wouldn't give your heads up. I missed out

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Speaker 3: on Miami, but Dallas last.

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Speaker 1: Time you were here, I saw you for like seven minutes.

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Speaker 3: Well, it could have been fifteen to twenty if you

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Speaker 3: come in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: Well also, it could have been an hour if I

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Speaker 1: went to dinner with you the night before. But high

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Speaker 1: school saw I mean, you know your family, your family

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Speaker 1: to me too. But if Aaron Stein has a high

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Speaker 1: school soccer game, even even a trip to Bob Steak

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Speaker 1: and Chop House gets canceled.

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Speaker 3: Starin when we're home as little as we are, there

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Speaker 3: are certain obligations you cannot miss. So I get it

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, the clock is ticking quickly on me. When

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Speaker 1: you spoke to Jalen Brunson at the live stream to

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Speaker 1: which I was not invited, how much concern did you

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Speaker 1: send from him about the injuries because the knicks, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they were so good in January. They were fifteen and

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Speaker 1: two in the immediate aftermath of trading for og Anobi,

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Speaker 1: and we haven't seen Anonobe for a while. We still

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Speaker 1: don't know if Julius Randall is going to be able

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Speaker 1: to make it back from his shoulder injury, and the

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Speaker 1: Knicks have probably their best team in thirty years. But

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Speaker 1: if they're not whole, they're not getting out of this

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference. So what was you know, I've seen the

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Speaker 1: clips online. Of course you had dash Jalen about Chris

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Speaker 1: Paul and you know, of course he's got to talk

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Speaker 1: about Josh Hart and Dante DiVincenzo, his Villanova family. But

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Speaker 1: I'm more curious really just what's his mindset? How's he

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Speaker 1: coping with how banged up this team is?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, So I asked him about you know,

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Speaker 3: there are other teams out there in the East and

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Speaker 3: in the West as well, where you know it's championship

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Speaker 3: or bus they're going for championship championships. And I said,

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Speaker 3: with the latest editions of Ognobi and uh Alan Alec Burks, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they they're just this is a team that could if

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Speaker 3: their whole, they could contend right now. And I said, so,

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Speaker 3: what is the expectations if you can get those guys back?

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Speaker 3: And he came off the way he explained himself. It

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Speaker 3: was as if he felt like kelp was on his way,

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Speaker 3: and like I know, Oobe is like he's coming back soon.

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Speaker 3: He's ramping up his face. And Julius Randall was still

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Speaker 3: the unknown, but his plan is still returned before the

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Speaker 3: season is over. So he the way he asked the

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Speaker 3: question that was as if they just got to get

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Speaker 3: through this little period right here, and it feels like

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Speaker 3: they will be able to line up with whoever they

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Speaker 3: face in the playoffs. So he was confident. Man, you know,

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Speaker 3: you know he's a pro. He handles himself like a

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Speaker 3: ten year vet, and you know, I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 3: seeing what, you know, what he has in store. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: of course I had to ask Paul Chris Paul the

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Speaker 3: Villanova connection. His pops is, you know, tough upbringing, you know,

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Speaker 3: being the son of a.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping you were going to have

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Speaker 1: his dad on there too, that would have been good.

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Speaker 3: I invited his dad to come on and he said

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Speaker 3: he wasn't going to be around Jalen at that time.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I wanted to get those two long because

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Speaker 3: you know Rick Rick Bruston, he doesn't hold back and

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Speaker 3: especially doesn't hold back against his son even today. So

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Speaker 3: uh no, it was good. I please urge everybody.

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Speaker 1: I was actually gonna text you earlier today and I

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Speaker 1: didn't because I was gonna suggest. You know, Jalen has

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Speaker 1: this new podcast out, I think it's called Roommates with

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Speaker 1: him and Josh Hart, and so I was going to

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Speaker 1: text you to propose, to propose the same trade that

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Speaker 1: we offered Draymond Draymond Green. Draymond Green accepted the trade

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Speaker 1: but never invited us on his podcast. I suggested that

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Speaker 1: you offer the same trade to Paul George. You never

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Speaker 1: told me if you did or not. We should we should,

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Speaker 1: We should see if Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart will

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Speaker 1: come on this podcast, and we'll, well, it's a lopsided

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Speaker 1: trade offer in our favor, but we will. We will

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Speaker 1: happily come on their podcast if they want us.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll propose that.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get. I'm guessing that that offer will be

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Speaker 1: shot down. But what the hell? You miss one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent of the shots you don't take.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's a part I will be going on

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Speaker 3: pretty soon, the NASAs.

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Speaker 1: Really, I didn't even know he had one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he has, he has a podcast, so he

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Speaker 3: had who do you have on? Oh? His most recent one.

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Speaker 3: He guess was our one of our favorites. Malik Beasley.

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Speaker 3: He was his recent recent guest, but he has you know,

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Speaker 3: he had dame on do an All Star WEEKID.

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Speaker 1: Man, he's killing what's the name of his what's the

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Speaker 1: name of his podcast?

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Speaker 3: Oh it is God. It's a play on his name,

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Speaker 3: the analysis nice and nice play on his name.

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Speaker 1: All right, Remember, friends, please follow us, rate and review

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Speaker 1: the show, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast.

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Speaker 1: Chris and I will be back together again very soon.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Thanks for listening. We'll do it

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Speaker 1: again next.

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Speaker 2: Week and that'll do it for us. See you next time.

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Speaker 2: This league un Cuttage and iHeartRadio production. Look up Christine

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