1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Levels to This is an iHeart women's sports production in 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on? Everybody is your Girlsca Costa brassby Well, some. 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 3: Of y'all is shagirl Cheryl. 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: Hey, and this is levels to this. This is the 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: show where we talk about the shit that women go through. 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: And Honey, it's been a bunch of shit that we've 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: been going through these last couple of weeks. 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: Honey. 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 4: The government then shut down. 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: It's been it's been a mess out here in these streets. 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: Like it's been a mess air traffic control now, you know, 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: we all on the road for the WNBA Finals, and 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: air traffic control some people calling in because they trying 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: not to pay them and now folks are stuck in 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: different airports and it is just it is crazy out 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: here right now, Cheryl. 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: So I'm going to change it from us talking about 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: the ship that women go through to us talking about 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: the ship that we as Americans are going through right now, 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: right because through it, that's what this is gonna be. Everywhere, 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: literally every day everywhere every day. 26 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, the only thing right now I feel 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 5: that is. 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: Kind of sort of keeping me sane, kind of sorder, 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: not all the way, but cond ofsorder is that we 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: still have some WNBA finals going on and we got 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: awards like that I feel is it's keeping me kind 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: of sort of saying and not just taking my mind 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: off of all. 34 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 6: The bullshit for just a little bit. 35 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: Too much. 36 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: It's so much going on, but the w NBA Finals 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: is definitely the thing that can keep our sanity. And 38 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: after what feels like a million years, we finally have 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: the all defensive team first and second team that have 40 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 2: been announced. 41 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 4: And so finally. 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: Because you know, I feel like we've been supposed to 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: get these awards announced a couple of weeks ago, but 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: shitty at the fan between fee and the commissioner and 45 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: they push these awards announcements back, and so now they said, 46 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: we got to handle this first. But now we finally 47 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: got an announcement for awards and so on our first team, 48 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: we have all defensive first team. There's Nathisa Collier, there's 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: Alana Smith, there's a lista Thomas, there is Gabby Williams, 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 2: and there's Asia Wilson. The second team, however, has caused 51 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: a little bit of controversy. So the second team is 52 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: a Leah Boston, Assie mag mcgore, Brianna Stewart, Veronica Burton, 53 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 2: and there's one person I'm missing when I missing and 54 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: Ryan Howard. So that is the first in the second team. 55 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: But I feel like folks have been questioning the second 56 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: team a little bit. So Cheryl, your initial thoughts and 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 2: then I'll share what my actual ballot said for second team, 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: because my first team ballot is exactly the way the 59 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 2: first team was announced, but my second team was a 60 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: little different. So what were your initial thoughts when you 61 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: saw the all defensive scenes? 62 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: Again, let me preface this by saying, I do not 63 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: get votes. Okay, okay, did you say Tasha Cloud? 64 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: No? Her name? 65 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: I did not say her name. 66 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: That's that's kind of sort of My first thought is 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: where is Tash? 68 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 5: I just I think Tash. 69 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: Deserves to be on one of the teams. 70 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 5: If you're not gonna put on the first, she should 71 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 5: absolutely be on the second. 72 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: Here's my other off are there? 73 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: And I'm really not being funny, I just this is 74 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: a real question. 75 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 5: Are they're not. 76 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: Guards? 77 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 5: Who are good defensively. 78 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: Well, I mean you have Veronica Burton on the team, 79 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: so uh huh, I know, and who else? Yeah, I 80 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: mean v B, I think is the only guard? 81 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 4: Who is Gabby? 82 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: Gabby's a guard, right, Are they the only two that 83 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: made it? I think they may be the only. 84 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Gabby's a guard, but I even consider Gabby more 85 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: like a three four plays the one at times. 86 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 5: But Gabby's Gabby's big and Ryan's big. 87 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 88 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 5: It's just a question. 89 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: Like even when I. 90 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: Think of defensive player of the year, it's always your 91 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: forwards or your centers that that win defensive player of 92 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: the year, And so it's really just a question. And 93 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: maybe I should be talking to the players, talking to 94 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: the guard specifically, saying, y'all need to do a little 95 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: bit more defensively so I can come on here and 96 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: talk about these guards making these defensive teams. 97 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 6: That's all. 98 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: I think you are onto something because I think you're 99 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: on a sumb show, because I don't think that enough 100 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: guards get love defensively, and they be playing a hell 101 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,559 Speaker 2: out of some defense. I just don't know what these 102 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: what my peers see. So on my all defensive team 103 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: for second team I actually. 104 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 3: Had, Yeah, who was your second team? 105 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: I had Angel Reese, I had Sanaia Rivers, I had 106 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: Aliah Boston, Natasha Mac and Ryan Howard. 107 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: To tell me. 108 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: That that's very different from very different, but also yeah, 109 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: I looked at. 110 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: Players like actual defensive I looked at their defensive efforts. 111 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: I looked at more than just block steels, rebounds. I 112 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: also looked at like yes, should right. I looked at 113 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: what was the defensive differential when you were on the 114 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: court versus when you were not. And I think a 115 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: player like a Sanaia Rivers and an Angel Rey specifically 116 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 2: because they played on teams that had bad records or 117 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: did not overaw have a very high defensive teams that 118 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: Snaya from the from the gate was one of the 119 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: best defensive guards in the league from the. 120 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 6: Gate as a rookie, How did you not consider her? 121 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: And I think people look at that though, But I 122 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: think people look at that as again to your point, 123 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: and say, well, she's a rookie, so she like they 124 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. My question, just like with MVP and 125 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 1: every other award, like who are. 126 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 5: The people that are getting to. 127 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: Vote on these awards? Like I know it's who they are. 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: But my question is. 129 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 5: You got I just think you should know something about 130 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 5: the game. 131 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: I just well, Damn, Cheryl, No, I just I do 132 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: because I feel like a lot of players are left 133 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: off of teams because of the people that are voting. 134 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so this is I would say this. I don't 135 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 2: want to I don't want to installt all seventy people 136 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: who got to vote and say they don't know basketball. 137 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: But what I will say is that because there are 138 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: some all. 139 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: Of them, some of all all life. 140 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: But I will say I don't think. What I believe 141 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: would help is that the WNBA has to do better 142 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: with putting a criteria on what it means to hold 143 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: some of these accolades. Like it's like you not, we're 144 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: just letting people just just go off the strength and 145 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: everybody's definition of something is so different that it don't 146 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: always make no sense of some of the players that 147 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: get selected for some of the awards, not that they 148 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: shouldn't be in consideration for some of them, but sometimes 149 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: you just need a criteria and they don't. They don't 150 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: have a criteria own nothing. So I think that they 151 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: just need to put some criteria on awards. And I 152 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: don't think there was any award that needed more of 153 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: a criteria than the MVP Award. Now, don't get me wrong. 154 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: I know that we discussed, or at least I know 155 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: that the MVP was announced a few weeks ago, but 156 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: you would I never really got an opportunity to kind 157 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: of talk about MVP in the way that I think 158 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: you and I wanted to. And so today I feel 159 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: like it's a great time sense awards are being announced 160 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: deal for us to really get into that conversation. Cheryl, 161 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: you have gone down in the history books for so 162 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: many things, and I know it's not often that people 163 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: get to surpass you at anything, but. 164 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: Asia Wilson, finally we have to start with that Asia 165 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 4: guy that I started just like that because. 166 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 6: We don't keep it a book, Like damn, damn, damn, Asia. 167 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: No, I'm not because I said it too. 168 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 6: I was like, damn, Like for real, you couldn't let 169 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 6: fee here. 170 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 4: Oh man. 171 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: There was a graphic that ESP had made that had you, 172 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: Lisa and Lauren on it, and it had Asia in 173 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: front and not like in front, but like. 174 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 5: She was sitting in her like her queen her throat. 175 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, she was sitting in a throng like in 176 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: her queendom. Yes, and and I loved picture of you 177 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: that they used. And this is not to be messy, 178 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: but you have just always been such a champion for 179 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: these players, specifically Asia among others and angels like you've 180 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: been a champion, and so they've used the picture of 181 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: you like cheering, like your arms are up, and it's 182 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: like I could feel the joy in that photos that 183 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: photo of you, because I'm like, like. 184 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: That's what I mean. 185 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: But I love that because you do. You have championed 186 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 2: so hard for these women to just be in their greatness, 187 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: and I thought that that was a great depiction of that. 188 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: And so to see her get that fourth MVP. 189 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: Just you know, and considering that, you know, you were 190 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: at the game last week, you got a chance to 191 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: kind of see her and talk to her, like what 192 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: was what was that emotion for you? 193 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 5: And you see, you got me emotional right now. 194 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: I know. You know. 195 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: Let me say this because you know people will listen 196 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: to things we say and they only hear what they 197 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: want to hear, because you know, you and I talked 198 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: about this in a jokingly manner when I was like, 199 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be mad if Asia don't win. I 200 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: don't want her to get four. I need her to 201 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: stay at I need her to stay at three right 202 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: where we are. But I will, I will tell you this, 203 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: stay at three. Even if she wouldn't have won it 204 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: this year, to me, it was only a matter of 205 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: time before she got that fourth one. 206 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 5: Like Asia is still very much in her prime. And 207 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 5: it's like Asia quiet as. 208 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: It's cap she could honestly already have five. The year well, 209 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, not to take anything away from Stewie, 210 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: but the year Stewie won, like it was Stewey in 211 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: Asia and Stewie wanted. But I you know, for me, 212 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: the reason why I get emotional or especially with that, 213 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: I got emotional because, like I tell people this all 214 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: the time, people only see like the finished product, right 215 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: when the players come out to play. 216 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 5: That's what you see, the entertainment, right. 217 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: The players are here to entertain you, to compete, to win, 218 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: to play hard, all those things. 219 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: That's with the fancy. 220 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: They don't see all the shit behind closed doors that 221 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: the players go through. You know that these athletes are 222 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: going through, and how all the people are coming for them, 223 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: talking crazy all the things. And so for me I 224 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: just really want to be that person that is going 225 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: to always be there and always hold it down for 226 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: the players when when people just just doing ignorant shit, 227 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because we've seen it with Asia, 228 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: we've seen it with Angel. 229 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: And it's hard, like it's hard being. 230 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: A professional athlete, and especially in today's world with social 231 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: media and all the things. But that particular picture you're 232 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: talking about, Tea, when I saw it, I got goosebumps, 233 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: right because I know how how great Lisa was, how 234 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: great Lauren was, Like we competed and we went at 235 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: each other, and to have that photo with the three 236 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: of us, it's almost like all of us passing the 237 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: torch onto Asia, to all the women, but Asia in particular, Yes, 238 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: like we're talking about four MVPs. That's never ever, ever, ever, 239 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: ever been done in the w NBA before, Like that's crazy, 240 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: That's that's crazy, right, And in her I still say 241 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: her short period of time in the w NBA, but 242 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: just I don't know, I just I felt a great sense. 243 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 5: Of joy, just just happy. 244 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: And you know I said this before, I really I 245 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: really want wanted and want to see at get an 246 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: MVP because I think she's put the work in and 247 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: for all the things that she's done right same and 248 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: you can say that, you. 249 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 5: Can say that about Fee. 250 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: Without degrading Asia or without coming for Asia. 251 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 6: Like all these women. 252 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: They work their asses off, they put the time in, 253 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: they put the work in. All very deserving. But yeah, Asia, 254 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: Asia Wilson is she's just she's on a different level. 255 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: She's on a different planet right now. 256 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: She is. That's it, she's she is not of this world. 257 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: She's been in this league for eight years, and half 258 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: the time that she's been in this league, she's been 259 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: an MVP. Half the time that you've been in this league, 260 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: you've been an MVP. Like that is that's special. That 261 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: is unfathomable to many people. And it's it's it's so special, 262 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: and we can't normalize it because it's not normal. 263 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: Like it's not it's not it's not normal. 264 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: We're not gonna same thing that we say about at like, 265 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: we're not going to normalize the I think this woman 266 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: be dropping eight triple doubles in a season, because that's 267 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: not normal. Normal people don't do that. It's not normal. Like, no, 268 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: people don't do that. Fifty forty ninety seasons are not normal, Like, 269 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: we're not gonna do. 270 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: That, right, So if you're not gonna give it to At, 271 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: and I'm not putting Fee in it because people talk 272 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: about Fee. I just feel like At continues to be 273 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: disrespected when when you're having the conversation of who should 274 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: win the MVP, it's always this year and even last 275 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: year it's. 276 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 5: Fee or Asia. 277 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: Rightfully so, but can we start making sure we're including 278 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: At in those conversations, because she absolutely deserves to be 279 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: in those conversations with respect. 280 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: Have to. 281 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely she is someone who continues to be a superstar 282 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: level player in an unconventional way. And that is in 283 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: my eyes, between the fact that she won, played in 284 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: Connecticut for a long time, and Connecticut as a team 285 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: was disrespected. People didn't know. I want to give Connecticut 286 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: their due because it's Connecticut, because it's boring and you 287 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: up in the sticks, and but all those things to 288 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: do with the fact that these people busted, they ass 289 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: ain't got to h with you. 290 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 6: All those you start, all those things, it can be. 291 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 4: True, but it is. 292 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 6: And first of all, you know what's crazy. 293 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: What's crazy is what's crazy is you don't I remember 294 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: I am from here, from Michigan. I don't really give 295 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: a damn about the state. I don't really give a 296 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: damn about the state of Connecticut. I just don't want 297 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: people to group Mohigan into what the whole. 298 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 6: State it is. 299 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 4: That's my only argument. 300 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: Like that'int y'all are right, it's boring and ship up there. 301 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 6: But where I live, I live with the black people. 302 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 4: Live. 303 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 6: We just had to put Rican Day parade. You see 304 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 6: what I'm saying, This type of ship we all down. 305 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: Here at Harford. I don't know what what they what 306 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: up there. So with that being said, though, I just 307 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: think that's where a lot of the eighteen disrespect comes from, 308 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: because she's doing this in an unconventional way and they 309 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: can't wrap their mind around the fact that maybe someone 310 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: who doesn't shoot threes or someone that doesn't you know, 311 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: ain't dunking or whatever like they're doing. They're doing this 312 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: in a different way, and it's like you need to 313 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: respect that. Like, to me, that makes it harder and 314 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: even more impressive that you're doing this in a way 315 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: that's very different than how every other superstar has gained 316 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: their name. So that's you know, that's. 317 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 4: Neither here nor there. 318 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: But I just want to also say, you know, I'm 319 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: a voter. 320 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 4: I voted for Asia. 321 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: I did release my ballot and I had Asia, Fee 322 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: at Alisha, and then Kelsey Mitchell. 323 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 4: That was my Those are my five in that order. 324 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: And it was struggling, Like I was struggling throughout the 325 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: entirety of the season. I started this season. Fee was 326 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: my preseason pick, but the time the season got underway, 327 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 2: Fee was still my pick. By the time we got 328 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: to half to the All Star All Star Game, she 329 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 2: was still my pick. She was still balling and Minnesota 330 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: was winning. And so it wasn't that we ignored Asia 331 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 2: because you and I talked about it all the time, Age, 332 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 2: but her team didn't help her out. Her team didn't 333 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: help her out. They weren't winning. So it came down 334 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 2: to me to the last two months, right, Fee missing time. 335 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 4: Definitely played a role. 336 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 2: Vegas going on a seventeen game win streak, Asia just 337 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: completely turning up in every category. Defense started to get crazy. 338 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: I was just like, it's hard to deny. And then 339 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the numbers. You're leading the league in 340 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: certain statistical categories that an MVP should lead them in. 341 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 4: So to me, it made sense. 342 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: I'm and I vote, and I ended up voting for Asia, 343 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 2: and so you know, the script didn't go the way 344 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: that some people like to claim us voters do like, oh, 345 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: I already know what they know. 346 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 4: Some of us like pay attention and do our jobs, 347 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 4: and it is what it is. 348 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: So congratulations to Asia. I agree with you that she's 349 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: probably gonna win a couple more before her career is over. 350 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 2: It will happen for at and it will happen for 351 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: a fee and The've been some other award winners that 352 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: have been great. Nas Hellmant won six Player of the Year, 353 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: so congratulations to her. She definitely stepped up her game 354 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: this year. Veronica Burton won Most Improved. I think that 355 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: was probably a foegone conclusion, just the way that she 356 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: showed people like y'all ain't have to believe in me. 357 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 2: I believe in me, and I showed out and I 358 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: think that that was well earned. Natalie Nikasse won Coach 359 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: of the Year, and I think that was another one 360 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: that was kind of close because Carl Simesco was in 361 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 2: that conversation too. But yes, there are still a couple 362 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: of more awards that still need to come out to 363 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: be announced. And we hope they will be very soon. 364 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: But at this point, there are a couple other things 365 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 2: that we got to get into really quickly, and that 366 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 2: is did you know that the New York Liberty and 367 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: don't got no coach? 368 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: Didn't see that coming. I'm like, I did not see 369 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: that coming. News to me, I'm like, huh, make that 370 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: make sense? Like are you are you mad? Because they 371 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: didn't repeat like that. Shit's hard to do. 372 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 6: Everybody, everybody, everybody. 373 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 5: Can be the comments and win for in a row. 374 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 4: It's hard to repeat. 375 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 5: I did say that, I did say that. 376 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: I did. 377 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 5: I did. 378 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 3: I did. 379 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: Say that we need to switch names because see my 380 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: name at the bottom, say that petty bitch. 381 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 6: But clearly put that clearly the petty bitch, just. 382 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: That because because clearly. 383 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 4: The petty one is over here. 384 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 6: But You're right, everybody can't win for in a row. 385 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: There are so few coaches in the w n b 386 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: A that give you championship caliber that I always immediately 387 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: go to, Okay, if somebody who we replacing them with, 388 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 2: like that's my instant, Sandy Brondelo is the coach that 389 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: you go get to replace somebody with. That's not the 390 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 2: coach at fire, you know, but there are rumors that, 391 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 2: you know, maybe she lost control of the locker room. 392 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: There are rumors that there was beef with her and 393 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: Jonathan Cole. There's rumors that they just didn't want to 394 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: extend the contract. 395 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: Nothing confirmed. 396 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what the streets is saying, right, 397 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: and so if any of those things are true, sure, I. 398 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 4: Get it, right, I guess I get it. 399 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, there are two 400 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: teams right now that are gonna be looking for three 401 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: technically because Seattle didn't resign their coach either, So there 402 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: are three teams right now that's gonna be looking for 403 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 2: a head coach, and Sandy Brondelo is probably the best 404 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: coach you're gonna get on the market that has head 405 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: coaching in the WNBA. 406 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, can we First of all, shame on New York. 407 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 5: You know. 408 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: To me, there definitely has to be more to this story. 409 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: Like I just don't I don't know. What I do 410 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: know is that Sandy will land somewhere like wherever she 411 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: wants to be. I'm sure I want to have a 412 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: different conversation that I think you and I talked about, 413 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: knowing not coming back with all the stuff that happened 414 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: in Seattle last year this year, I don't think that 415 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: one was a surprise to anybody. Like I never want 416 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: to see anybody lose their job. I want to have 417 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: a bigger conversation on where are all the black female 418 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: head coaches that and why aren't any of them coaching 419 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: in the w You know, it almost when I when 420 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: I look at it, it almost makes me feel like 421 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: we're as as black women, we're good enough to to 422 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: be your assistant, we're good enough to be your you're 423 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: in your dobo or your manager, however you want to 424 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: put it, But we're not good enough to run the 425 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: team right to be the head coach. That's almost what 426 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: it feels like to me. And with all of well 427 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: right now, Seattle, New York, Portland coming up then you know, yeah, 428 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: we got Detroit, Cleveland, Philly, all the Toronto. Can can 429 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: we get some some black women in the in the 430 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: in the head coach seat. 431 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 5: It's a it's a question, it's an ask, it's. 432 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: A plea pretty much. 433 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: I I just and and let me also say this 434 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: because I said all the other things, and we're also 435 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: as black women, we're good enough to play and win 436 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: championships for you, but we're not good enough to. 437 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. 438 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 5: I just I need I need an explanation. 439 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: The other thing I'm gonna add to that because I 440 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: don't I don't want anybody to take this the wrong way. 441 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: I am all for the best person that that's the 442 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: best qualified, the best coach. Yes she, I'm not even 443 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: saying he she should be given an opportunity. But in 444 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: saying that, I do know that there are some black 445 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: women out there that fits all of those things. So 446 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: let's just let's just give them an opportunity. 447 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Yeah. One hundred percent agreed. One hundred percent agreed. 448 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: There is no excuse, for no reason why we do 449 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: not have any. 450 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 4: Black women who are head coaching. 451 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 2: And if your desire is to say, hey, you know, 452 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 2: we have utilized a lot of these coaches that are 453 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 2: currently in the league, are currently serving as assistants and 454 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 2: that have been coaches, and we just want some new blood. 455 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 4: New faces go to the college level. 456 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: There are some incredible women who are coaching at the 457 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: collegiate level finding success and could find that success in 458 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: the WNBA. I'm a be biased. I'm gonna say coach, 459 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: She'll let McPhee McEwan. She's been doing the damn thing 460 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 2: at Ole Miss. She's turned that program around. Yes, she 461 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: is our sore, but she is an amazing woman, an 462 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 2: amazing coach. She has the trust of her players. People 463 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: buy into what she's doing. If you want to give 464 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: somebody an opportunity, she's someone I think has earned one. 465 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: So I mean, like, there is no reason, in no way, 466 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: and there are plenty, There are plenty others. 467 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 4: There are many others that has done it. 468 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: I look at Neil Ivy, She's played in the W, 469 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: she has experience coaching with some of the best. 470 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 4: She has helped. 471 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: Continue the legacy at Notre Dame that was established there 472 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: by Muffett MacGrath. So I mean, it's not like they 473 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 2: don't exist. You don't have to go to the NBA 474 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 2: and find these men and bring them over to the 475 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: W because at the end of the day, they ain't 476 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: just straight opening their doors giving women in the W 477 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 2: head coaching positions in the NBA. I'm just keeping it 478 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 2: a buck, you know what I mean? Great great like 479 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 2: it can happen. It can happen. No shade, Natibbitts, You've 480 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: done a great job. I'm not mad at that. I'm 481 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: not saying that that doesn't work and can't work. I'm 482 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: just also saying this league was made for women on 483 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: many levels, from the coaching to the front office to 484 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: the players on the court. This league was made to 485 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: showcase the incredible things that women can do when given 486 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 2: the opportunity, and so to kind of shrift that away 487 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: feels feels weird, feels feels. 488 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 4: Out of pocket. 489 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: Like I agree with you, the best, the best should 490 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: have it, the best people should do it, the best people, 491 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 2: the most qualified. But it's very disappointing knowing that we 492 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 2: have qualified people who meet that criteria and for whatever reason, 493 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: they're not given that opportunity. 494 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 4: So, yeah, is what it is on that. 495 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: But last, but not least, though, as I look around 496 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: this league right now and I see the coaches that 497 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 2: did not yet let go, I'm actually not mad about it. 498 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 2: I feel like there was going to be a bit 499 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: of a ruckus about specifically Chicago and. 500 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 4: Dallas and Connecticut because I'm gonna throw our sheet in 501 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 4: her two. 502 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 2: But I'm also one that thinks that it is difficult 503 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: for people to find chemistry in just one year. 504 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 4: It was wrong for them to let Spoon go after 505 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 4: one year. 506 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 3: I'm glad you said that because I was about to. 507 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: Be it was wrong. 508 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: It was wrong for them to let her go after 509 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: one year, And I think it would be wrong to 510 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 2: let these current coaches go after one year because they 511 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: at least need an opportunity to have that year, like 512 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: they should have a chance to now that you've got 513 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 2: it under your belt. Now that you've done it, you know, 514 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: what do you do from here? 515 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: Now? 516 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 2: If the pattern continues, that's a different conversation you have 517 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: to But I do think you should give a coach 518 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 2: more than a year to build before you instantly say, Okay, 519 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: one year you suck, You're out, like te you have. 520 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: To I just ask for consistency with that, like I'm 521 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: still you know, and there's lots of speculation and people 522 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: want to talk, well, this is why Spoon was let go, 523 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: Like unless you were to me, unless you were actually 524 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: in the locker room and there every day, you have 525 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: no idea what the dynamics was like, right, But my 526 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: thing is, just like you said, I agree, I don't 527 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: think any coach should be let go of after the 528 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 1: first year because you're not winning as many games as 529 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: people think you haven't had time to build your team, 530 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: the chemistry, learn your team, all the things. 531 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 5: I just ask for consistency. 532 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: Just like we're showing these other coaches grace. Yeah, well 533 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: we should have shown They should have shown Spoon grace, 534 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: like give her time. If there's one thing I know 535 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: about her is that she's a champion. She knows how 536 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 1: to win, she knows how to compete, she knows how 537 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: to get the players to play for all of those things. 538 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: So you know, if that's what we're gonna do, just 539 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: be consistent with it. 540 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 6: That's it. 541 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: Yep, completely agree. Consistency is everything. So yeah, I think 542 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting to see how we move forward 543 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: from here with the open vacancies in the coaching space. 544 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna be looking forward to see you who're 545 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: gonna end it with a job and who ain't, especially 546 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: given that it's gonna be some expansion drafts that's gonna 547 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: need to happen. Management gonna have to do some things. 548 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: It's gonna be it's gonna be a wild ride. But 549 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: with that, yeah, it's been we will see, so stay 550 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: with us. We will be right back to level this 551 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: thing off, all right, Everybody well, congrats on all the 552 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: award winners. There are still I believe the All w 553 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: n b A First and Second Team awards that still 554 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: need to be announced and have not been announced at 555 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: the time of this recording, So we will look forward 556 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: to see who is sitting on those and as usual, 557 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: I will always share who I actually voted for, and 558 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: SUREL will always give you the disclaimer that she can't vote, 559 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: because even though we say it fifty. 560 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 4: Times, y'all still be coming at her neck like she like. 561 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 5: She voted, and you'd be like they'd be coming for me. 562 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: And I'm like, how many times you gotta tell y'all 563 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: she is not about her, Like why y'all coming out neck? 564 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: Zero? 565 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: I get nothing anyway, any yes, girl, anyway, congrats on 566 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: all the award winners so far, and that it was 567 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: time for us to be leveled on up, and so 568 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: sure I'm going to turn it over to you. 569 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: I tried to find something that was more along our 570 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: conversation today talking about awards and all the things, but 571 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: instead I found something that for those of you who 572 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 1: may have caught our episode on setting boundaries and sticking 573 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: to the boundaries and all the things. I just came 574 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: across this and it felt very fitting. So it says, 575 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: never apologized for disappearing. You needed yourself more than they 576 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: needed you. And the reason why I think I like 577 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: that is because I think so many times we talked 578 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: about the episode boundary reason all of that. So many 579 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 1: times we always feel bad or question ourselves when we 580 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: need to take some time for ourselves, right, And a 581 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: lot of times we'll be like, well, yeah, but I 582 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: need to be there for her, I need to be 583 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: there for him. 584 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 5: So never apologize for disappearing. You needed yourself more than 585 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 5: they needed you. 586 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 6: I love that. 587 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: I love that. I want love and endure that because 588 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: it's so accurate and that right there is exactly how 589 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: we will in the show and drop the mic. So 590 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: thank you guys so much for tuning in to another 591 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: episode of Levels to this. And yes, that was Schiryl 592 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: dropping the mic. That was her dropping the bike. Oh 593 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 2: oh my god, that's that. That just completely took my 594 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 2: whole shit off. Well, thank you guys so much for 595 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: continue to love us and listen to us. I just 596 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: I love Shirl so much it's crazy. But guys, listen, y'all, 597 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: keep downloading the show. Y'all keep showing us love. Remember 598 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: this isn't just our show, it is our show, so 599 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: you need to connect with us. 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