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Speaker 1: This is one Bills Live, presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome, welcome, welcome to a Monday edition of

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Speaker 2: One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you. Good

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Speaker 2: to have you with us here on this total eclipse

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Speaker 2: Monday one Bill's Live. We should have used the O

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Speaker 2: in ob L Steve and made some kind of total

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Speaker 2: eclipse graphic. I've learned that the idea. I've learned that

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Speaker 2: the ring around the moon is called the rona.

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Speaker 1: I did know that.

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Speaker 2: I did not know that. I've I've learned that the

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Speaker 2: other day.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that, and that's why. Yeah, they named

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Speaker 1: it after a beer.

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Speaker 2: Oh did they?

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Speaker 1: I think?

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Speaker 2: So okay, I'm pretty sure that's how that worked. What

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Speaker 2: makes sense to me.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, got I got some plans. Although you know,

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Speaker 1: as you can imagine, we get off the air at three.

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Speaker 1: The whole the total thing is like three eighteen to

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Speaker 1: three twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Something like four minutes of total right, which you.

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Speaker 1: Know, Okay, I gotta I don't even have to break

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Speaker 1: the speed limit to get to where I'm going.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I yeah, I'm not gonna be

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Speaker 2: able to get home in time, so I'm probably just

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Speaker 2: gonna have to stay here and view it and then

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Speaker 2: figure out the rest. I laughed out loud this morning,

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Speaker 2: I'm shaving, you know, I took a shower this morning.

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Speaker 2: I'm shaving. I got the TV on. I'm listening to

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Speaker 2: the news, and of course they've they've got reporters in

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Speaker 1: By themselves, standing in a field.

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Speaker 2: Probably seven seven thirty in the morning, and uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: who knows what could be happening there at seven thirty

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Speaker 2: in the morning. The eclipse is not taking place for

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Speaker 2: an right eight hours, so so okay, I get it.

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Speaker 2: It's a big deal. I'm I get it. But the woman,

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Speaker 2: the female reporter, starts talking about how you have to

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Speaker 2: look out for traffic today and you may want to

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Speaker 2: pack some extra water bottles and snacks in your car,

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Speaker 2: and I let it. It's out loud. It's like, it's

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Speaker 2: like hy two k all over again for an eclipse.

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Speaker 2: Come on, it's gonna last two hours today. Totals start

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Speaker 2: to finish and four minutes of total.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it goes slow. I mean it gets dark

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Speaker 1: very slowly and then we'll get a light very slowly.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, but I.

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Speaker 2: Was like, do we have to go to the grocery

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Speaker 2: store and get extra bread and milk too. Like, dude,

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Speaker 2: do you remember why two k everybody thought all the

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Speaker 2: computer systems were gonna fail because it doesn't have had

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Speaker 2: to flip the calendar because it's going to three zero's

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Speaker 2: or whatever. Yeah, you're worried, like pull out your abacus's people,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna need them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like not so much now.

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Speaker 2: It's like we'd had extra food and drink in the car.

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Speaker 2: You could be marooned for like two days somewhere. You know,

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Speaker 2: maybe bring a cock to work if you have work today.

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Speaker 2: Not that. And that's the other thing, Steve. On your

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Speaker 2: drive into work, which I know is relatively short drive

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Speaker 2: for you, did you notice a noticeably lighter volume of

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Speaker 2: traffic today. Nobody's working today, That's true. Everybody has parlayed

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Speaker 2: this eclipse into a day off of work. Telling you

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Speaker 2: how many people aren't working today.

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Speaker 1: We are missing the boat. We should have been sitting

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Speaker 1: cigars because you never know how long this thing's gonna last.

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Speaker 1: Those are my provisions forget about water bottles the d

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Speaker 1: of days. I don't I don't need snacks and water bottles.

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Speaker 1: I got just got an extra stogy. I'll be fun.

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Speaker 1: I did call my ways. Hey, grab a lawnchair. When

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Speaker 2: On the news, they also said New York State has

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Speaker 2: been preparing for this for two years. Now. Look, I'm

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it comes right through the heart

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So New York State Police is gonna have extra

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Speaker 2: one for any emergencies. So this is and look, I'm

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't live in the law

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Speaker 1: Apparently as dumb as you can imagine, because I listen.

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Speaker 1: I've always I've occasionally been one of those guys that's like, dude,

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Speaker 1: you're right right. I've been there. I've been that guy.

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Speaker 1: So I understand somebody, Yeah, something bad's gonna happen to

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Speaker 1: what's going on. Whatever somebody's gonna get something will happen

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Speaker 2: Right, And unfortunately, our authorities, law enforcement, public safety politicians,

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Speaker 2: they have to prepare for people doing dumb things. So,

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Speaker 2: the digital signs on the throughway. They're flashing do not

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, are there actually people we have

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Speaker 1: Apparently, Apparently they're really worried about. And I get it too.

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Speaker 1: Somebody can like, yeah, it will only take a minute.

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Speaker 1: We'll just get out and take a quick picture. Now

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be I think all those kind of incidents

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Speaker 2: Yes you would, you would hope, so you.

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Speaker 1: Know it's gonna get dark, but you ain't gonna able

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Speaker 2: You and I talked about this before we came on

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Speaker 2: the air today. The most interesting thing that I learned

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Speaker 2: going to drop seven to eight degrees.

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Speaker 1: other day in nineteen ninety what was it, ninety two

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Speaker 1: wildest thing ever, just being in the shade, having the

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Speaker 2: So you know our public service message do not look

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Speaker 2: From what we've been told, staring at the total eclipse

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Speaker 2: but the process getting to the total eclipse. As it's

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Speaker 2: even with clouds today. Please. We don't need anybody damaging

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Speaker 2: their eye sight today. So yeah, it'll it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the owls start hooting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, if you have them in your area, you

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Speaker 1: know they're not. All of that stuff happens, all of it. Wow, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: and incidentally he left town today because he want to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess we'll find out soon enough. It's

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Speaker 2: about two hours away. So yeah, after we're off the air,

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Speaker 1: And that is right.

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Speaker 2: We'll report back here.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Pre draft visits are making headlines during this final phase

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Speaker 2: of the pre draft process in the NFL, and among

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Speaker 2: the bigger names making pre draft visits that have been publicized,

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Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals are hosting Washington wide receiver Romadunze and

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Speaker 2: Penn State edge rusher Chop Robinson. Chicago Bears are hosting

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Speaker 2: LSU wide receiver Malik Neighbors, and the Carolina Panthers hosting

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Speaker 2: Western Kentucky wide receiver Malachi Corley, who's probably a Day

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Speaker 2: two pick, had a really good Senior Bowl and as

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Speaker 2: a converted running back, another one of those positionless type

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Speaker 2: players who is probably gonna line up at wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Not much word leaking out here and One Bill's drive

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Speaker 2: as far as player visits are concerned. They're having them,

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Speaker 2: but like we say all the time, it is fort

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Speaker 2: knocks up there, and not even the network insiders right

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Speaker 2: can get names out of One Bill.

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Speaker 1: They've got guys coming in and out. But also you

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Speaker 1: got to remember some of these teams have these players

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Speaker 1: in and you think, well, there's no way that guy's

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Speaker 1: going to be there. Even the top teams of the

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Speaker 1: top five teams in the draft are having guys visit,

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Speaker 1: and you're thinking, well, hit, they're not going to take

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Speaker 1: that guy they had no shot at, or if they

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Speaker 1: got a shot at him, they're not taking him. They're

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Speaker 1: taking that other guy who's gonna you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like Chicago they can have they can have everybody in

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Speaker 1: If he goes five, it's a surprise because somebody's traded

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Speaker 2: As far as player visits are concerned, this one was interesting.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the intrigue.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the intriguing things about I mean nobody.

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Speaker 2: I think it's unlikely. I am not just knowing Brandon's history,

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Speaker 1: Sure you can make a case for it, but I

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Speaker 1: And you've got the juice from what we've talked about.

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Speaker 1: and get one. I just don't think he's not gonna.

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Speaker 2: Do it, right, I just he's just hearing him at

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Speaker 1: Which exactly which? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And what?

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Speaker 1: And trading back is like giving up?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if you can say that, dude.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of teams that have profited quite

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Speaker 1: But I yeah, you don't say I'm I'm competitive and

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Speaker 2: Well, That's why I said what I said, Yeah I am,

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Speaker 2: Come on, bro, So what do you think of that,

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Speaker 2: you're worthy bears preparing for any and all contingencies. Let's

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Speaker 1: Think Xavier worries we're going to be there at twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: But I and I've gone through all you you look

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be some good ones. Oh yeah, Xavier, like

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Speaker 5: I love that.

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Speaker 1: That's my guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good player.

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, But you look up across this Chicago's at

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Speaker 1: They don't have an He got Minnesota, Denver, and Las

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some guys there, and Denver in some of

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Speaker 2: Up sure to me. One last bit of news. One

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Speaker 1: That's very if for those of you wondering, that's very

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Speaker 2: He was expected to be a first round pick prior

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Speaker 1: That's why Poyer and Hyde were so good for so long.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one tiny extra bit of news Texas defensive

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Speaker 2: tackle to to Andre Sweat, He's got a pre draft

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Speaker 2: me as an underclassman. Those days are behind me. I'm

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Speaker 1: It's easy to say. Sometimes you find it's hard to

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Speaker 1: He just spent a month telling all these teams. Man, no,

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Speaker 1: Think about what your insides are going through right then?

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too without I'm not not making

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Speaker 1: You are not going to guarantee a kid who lied

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care if he's there in

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Speaker 1: And that's it that there will There are teams like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll see what comes of it. We'll see

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Speaker 2: for the Athletic Bruce Feldman. He has his annual Freaks

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Speaker 2: underclassmen with some ridiculous numbers, whether it's their height and weight,

437
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Speaker 2: their forty time, their bench press, their squat. Some of

438
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Speaker 2: the things these people can do is just simply superhuman.

439
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: It's like dealing with the super Friends. So we'll talk

440
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Speaker 2: to Bruce about that and his latest mock draft to

441
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Speaker 2: see who he has picked for the Bills at number

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Speaker 2: twenty eight. But discussion on the table for you today

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Speaker 2: is as follows. What is your best case scenario for

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Speaker 2: the Bills in Round one of the NFL Draft eight

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Speaker 2: h three zero five point fifty one eight eight eight,

446
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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty the number to get on board.

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Speaker 2: Got some open lines for you there and we will

448
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Speaker 2: go to the phones now. And leading us off today

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Speaker 2: is Jay and Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: What's up?

451
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Speaker 2: Jay?

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Speaker 6: This is dread like dreadlock oh.

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Speaker 2: Dre Okay, okay, sorry, I just read what's on the

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Speaker 2: screen for me, No problem.

455
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Speaker 6: I got the best situation for the draft. We need

456
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Speaker 6: to trade for Arizona's fourth pick. We need to offer

457
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Speaker 6: them next year first, second to third if that if needed.

458
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Speaker 6: But because we'll get whatever we give away, we'll get

459
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Speaker 6: it back with the twenty eighth pick. We got to

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Speaker 6: keep that twenty eighth pick because people are going to

461
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Speaker 6: be desperate for it for the last quarterback. They want

462
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Speaker 6: that fit to your option.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So what you're saying is give all your future

464
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Speaker 2: draft capital up to get to number four, hold on

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Speaker 2: to your pick at twenty.

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Speaker 6: Eight exactly, and see what see what the offers are, and.

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Speaker 2: Then they maybe parlay that into more draft capital.

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Speaker 6: More draft picks. Exactly. You got it straight, exactly, all right.

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Speaker 2: I don't hate it. It's a lot to give up

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Speaker 2: in the future, and the only thing that you'll.

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Speaker 6: Get it back you'll get it back.

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Speaker 2: You'll get it back with you hope you get it back.

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Speaker 1: You hope you get it What.

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Speaker 6: Team you'll have the opportunity to get it back?

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Speaker 1: D Drake, What team do you think would consider saying

476
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Speaker 1: yes to that?

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Speaker 6: Arizona? Who doesn't want twenty five first, second third?

478
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Speaker 1: A general manager who ain't going to be there in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 6: That's not who we're dealing with, though.

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Speaker 2: Mantiasen Ford just got there last year in Arizona as

482
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Speaker 2: the new GM, and you know he hired Jonathan Gannon

483
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Speaker 2: as his head coach, and this is year two for them.

484
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Speaker 2: They need a lot of help. They have two first

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Speaker 2: round picks at four and twenty seven, so parting with

486
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Speaker 2: a one would require a lot, especially they're high one.

487
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Speaker 2: So I mean, Jay is right, it's going to take

488
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Speaker 2: a lot of capital to move that. The only thing

489
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Speaker 2: that makes me pause there. Even though Brandon bean Is

490
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Speaker 2: I think by most accounts would be described as a

491
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Speaker 2: at the very least progressive, maybe even aggressive GM in

492
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Speaker 2: terms of trading in the draft, the one thing he

493
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Speaker 2: does not do very often is trade future draft capital. Now,

494
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Speaker 2: with the lack of draft capital they have this year

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Speaker 2: in terms of valuable picks, because eight of their ten

496
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Speaker 2: are in rounds four and later. He may have to

497
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Speaker 2: dip into the future pool a little bit. But I

498
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Speaker 2: mentioned this on the show last week.

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Speaker 1: He's got two twos next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He traded up twice in twenty eighteen to get

501
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen and then traded back into the first round

502
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Speaker 2: again to get Tremaine Edmonds at sixteen in the middle

503
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Speaker 2: of round one, and in all of that trading did

504
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Speaker 2: not give up a future first round draft choice. So

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Speaker 2: I think by hooker by crook, he's going to try

506
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Speaker 2: to move to where he needs to go on the

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Speaker 2: board without giving up much in the way of future

508
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Speaker 2: draft capital. Not saying he won't because they don't have

509
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Speaker 2: a lot to work with this year, but man, he

510
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Speaker 2: doesn't like giving up future ones.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this as well. And one of the thing

512
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Speaker 1: that gets lost in all of this is the Bills

513
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Speaker 1: have been good and a really good roster for the

514
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Speaker 1: past three four years. So if I would be willing

515
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Speaker 1: to listen to this, if Brandon Bean calls up a

516
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Speaker 1: team like Arizona and says, I'll give you two two's

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Speaker 1: for the four pick and look at our roster, and

518
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Speaker 1: aside from these, pick a number fifteen players, five players,

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Speaker 1: two players, one player of all those players on our roster,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you those two twos and a player. Who

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Speaker 1: do you want for that four pick? That's something I

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Speaker 1: could see taking play. And then if he doesn't like

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Speaker 1: the answer, he says, you give me Deon Dodcas. He says, no,

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Speaker 1: how about no? All right, no problem with that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he would be on the list.

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Speaker 1: But right, that's what I'm saying, though, he said, which

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Speaker 1: you know, look at our roster, give us a list

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Speaker 1: of names that you would set you would take with

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Speaker 1: the two twos or a two or whatever, you know,

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Speaker 1: the draft picks you want, what player would you want?

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Speaker 1: Obviously you know you're not going to give him Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen or d On Hawkins or whatever, Dalton Kincaid or

533
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Speaker 1: somebody like, but there may be somebody that they like.

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Speaker 1: Then you talk so you don't have to give instead

535
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Speaker 1: of a future draft pick, you get a guy who's

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Speaker 1: approven NFL player right now at whatever level that other

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Speaker 1: team thinks. So that's something I could listen to because ours,

538
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: the roster is here, is so good, and particularly.

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Speaker 2: Like you can chipped away office.

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Speaker 1: Oh at big time, big time. But at the top

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Speaker 1: of it, I think you got some some guys there

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Speaker 1: at some space. I mean particularly you got a huge

543
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Speaker 1: depth on the offensive line. You got you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: take your pick, take your pick. But I'd listen to that.

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Speaker 1: But that's I'm not I'm with you, Brownie. I'm not

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Speaker 1: giving up in future number one. I'm not giving up

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Speaker 1: a future number two and a three. You'd have to

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Speaker 1: give you'd have to be wow, you know maybe Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those are players, those are team There's are players that

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Speaker 1: you think are gonna be a starter or a starter

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Speaker 1: right now. Those three kind of picks, top three picks

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Speaker 1: in a draft.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, but we'll get back to

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Speaker 2: more of your phone calls when we return, as we

555
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: are wide open for those Sam and north Tonawanda. We'll

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Speaker 2: lead us off, followed by Chris and Hamburg and others.

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Speaker 2: Holding an eighth three oh five fifty. What's your best

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Speaker 2: case scenario for the Bills in Round one of the

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft? You tell us next here on One Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live presented by co Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: What is your best case scenario for the Bills in

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Speaker 2: Round one of the NFL Draft. Welcome back to One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you looks like pff.

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Speaker 2: Sam monson, Friend of the Show, is already chiming in

565
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Speaker 2: on this subject. He said, some team, this is his scenario.

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Speaker 2: Some team drafts my league neighbors over Marvin Harrison Junior,

567
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: Buffalo sends the Julio Jones trade package to jump up

568
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Speaker 2: and comes out of the draft with Marvin Harrison Junior.

569
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Speaker 2: People to be doing cartwheels in the streets here in Buffalo.

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00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: If that happens, we will spend the next I tell you,

571
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Speaker 1: we'll spend the next six months tamping down expectations that

572
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: ain't gonna happen. He just rained on his parade there

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Speaker 1: at about three seconds. Come on, yeah, ain't nobody letting

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00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior slide?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones, though, and we go

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Speaker 2: to Sam and North Town and wada, what's up? Samuel?

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Speaker 7: Hi, guys, I know there's an eclipse today, But I

580
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 7: think the bigger story in Buffalo is that we didn't

581
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Speaker 7: ask for more for Stefan Diggs. If we asked for more,

582
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Speaker 7: and that we could have got somebody in the draft

583
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Speaker 7: with Malik Neighbors who would have been a big key

584
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Speaker 7: for our offense. I think that would have matched us well.

585
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 7: So why didn't they ask for more for Stefan Diggs.

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00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: Well, First of all, the number one problem is Houston

587
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: didn't have a first round pick anymore to give in

588
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 2: this year's draft. They were the trade partner, so they

589
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: didn't have a one this year to give. That's problem

590
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: number one. Problem number two is what fair market value

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00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: was deemed to be by the interested party, which was

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Speaker 2: the Houston Texas. They just witnessed less than a month ago,

593
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Speaker 2: Keenan Allen, who led the league in receptions for the

594
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: Chargers last year, go to the Chicago Bears for just

595
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: a fourth round pick. He's the same age as Stefan Dicks.

596
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: He's thirty one now. Steph will be thirty one by

597
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: the time we get to the season or somewhere during

598
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: the season. So with that in mind, I don't think

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00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: the Bills had a lot more that they could realistically

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Speaker 2: ask for. And it wouldn't surprise me if all Houston

601
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: was offering was a three in return and Brandon Bean

602
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: had to give them a five and a six in

603
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Speaker 2: the deal to get them to move it up to

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Speaker 2: a two next year, because the going rates a four

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Speaker 2: for a thirty one year old receiver, even ones as

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Speaker 2: productive as Stefan Diggs and Keenan Allen. You can go

607
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: a year before that. Marie Cooper gets traded by the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys to the Browns and the Cowboys get a five

609
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Speaker 2: and a six for him. So there's a there's a

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Speaker 2: short term track record here of what the market value

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Speaker 2: has been for high profile veteran receivers with a lot

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Speaker 2: of production, and it's been a mid round draft choice.

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Speaker 2: I think Brandon Bean did extraordinarily well to get a two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if if you wanted to hold out for more

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Speaker 1: compensation for Steph Diggs, you'd still be holding out. Steph

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Speaker 1: Diggs would still be a bill because you ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: get it done. It's that simple. I mean, it sounds great,

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Speaker 1: but if you think there was anything more to be

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Speaker 1: gotten by trading Steffan Diggs, it would have been gotten

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Speaker 1: because that's I mean, that's their job of the you know,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't just they talked to Houston Texans and nobody else.

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Speaker 1: Certainly there's been a lot made that they've trade him

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Speaker 1: to anybody except the Chiefs. I get that, but that's it.

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00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you they got what they could get, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean if they could have gotten something more from

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Speaker 1: somebody else, they would have gotten something more from somebody else.

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00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: It's that simple. You take the best offer and you

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Speaker 1: can spin it any way you want to after the fact.

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Speaker 1: That's just not the way the world works. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get what you want. You wish they could have

631
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Speaker 1: gotten more for Steph Diggs. He's meant a ton to

632
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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and certainly it seems like, at least

633
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: for this franchise, he's worth more than the two, but

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00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: not to the rest of the league. That's not what

635
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: the market says. That's not what the market says. I

636
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: feel you're right. I mean, you like it as much

637
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Speaker 1: as you can. You'd love to get a one for him,

638
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: but that's you're just not gonna do it. You're not

639
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: gonna get it done. It's that simple.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and to Joe and Williamsville.

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Speaker 3: What's up Joe, Hey, guys, thanks for taking like call.

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00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: As far as the best case scenario for the Bills

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00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 3: in round one, I think if they could trade for

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00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: a proven receiver, a veteran or a quarter one end

645
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: free agency, but I don't know who's left in free agency.

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Speaker 3: I think that would be the best case scenario heading

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Speaker 3: into the draft. However, I had a question I heard

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Speaker 3: I read initially that they took Bill took a thirty

649
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: one million dollar cat hit by trading digs and listening

650
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 3: to Brandon Bean's comments after the trade and Howard Simon also,

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Speaker 3: I listened to an interview with him, it was a

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00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: four million caphit they took this year. If you could

653
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: explain where the rest of the money is, is that

654
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: going into next year? And I'll hang up and listen.

655
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: Thank yeah, sure, than.

656
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: Joe Branny want to do it? Or yeah?

657
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean he was already going to be counting if

658
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: he was on the roster twenty seven and change on

659
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: the cap just because of what his salary added up

660
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: to in terms of base and then the bonus money,

661
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: which is amortized over the life of the deal. His

662
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: cap hit this year was twenty seven million in change.

663
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: By moving him off the roster with a trade, it

664
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: accelerated the remaining bonus moneys in the final three years

665
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: of the deal onto this year's cap, so it was

666
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: twenty seven, which is what they were already on the

667
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: hook for with him on the roster, plus the bonus

668
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: moneys from the future that were amortized over the last

669
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: three years of the deal getting accelerated into this year.

670
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: That's the rule. You move the player off the roster,

671
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: all his bonus that you've spread out to lessen the

672
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: cap hit gets accelerated into the current year.

673
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: Which meant he went from being a twenty seven and

674
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: change cap hit to thirty one point one, So they

675
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: got an extra three and a half.

676
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: Million dollars in cap responsibility.

677
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: They also do not have to pay him the eighteen

678
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: point five that was guaranteed, that was already guaranteed him.

679
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: That goes to Houston, but they can't The bills can't

680
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: pay it, so that that's.

681
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: That's Houston's response, that's Houston's responsibility.

682
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: But it still goes on bills, the bill's cap because

683
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: they guaranteed it to him, so that comes off the

684
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: bill's cap, so.

685
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: That comes off their books.

686
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: It couts off their books, right, So here's what it

687
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: boils down to. They took they were he was going

688
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: to be twenty seven and changed this year anyway no

689
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: matter what. Plus, he was gonna be on the books

690
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: for fifteen next year or twenty twenty something next year

691
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: for a total of fifty two million. Steph Diggs was

692
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: on the bills books for fifty two million dollars over

693
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: if he was here for two years this year and

694
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: in the next year, so it was a twenty seven

695
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: plus whatever twenty two the next year. After By taking

696
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: a thirty one million dollars cap hit this year, the

697
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: bills completely due away with the rest of that that

698
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: would have happened in twenty twenty five. So they're getting

699
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: for what would have been a fifty two million dollar

700
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: cap hit over two years, they took a thirty one

701
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: point one million over one and are done with Stefan Diggs.

702
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: So hopefully that makes sense, Joe.

703
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of what it boiled down to. They

704
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: went from fifty two plus over two years to thirty

705
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: one to one over one year without the guy on

706
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: their roster.

707
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: Let's go to Rich in Penya next. What's up Rich?

708
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, Steve, pretty good, thrilling to talk to you.

709
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 8: I was there watching you and I would just I'd

710
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 8: list look forward every punt and every kickoff, and I

711
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 8: loved it so great job. It was a thrill to

712
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 8: watch you play.

713
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: Thanks.

714
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 8: So look at I have been to South Carolina, my

715
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 8: daughter went and graduated there. I've seen two games last

716
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 8: year and watched Leget play. That kid is a beast.

717
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 8: He catches everything. That offensive line was absolutely junk. They

718
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 8: had like fifteen or better players that played on that

719
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 8: offensive line throughout the year. Rattler was flying all over

720
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 8: the place just trying to find a place to go.

721
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 8: He would adjust, he had crossing routes. And then I

722
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 8: said to them myself, Okay, everybody's talking about Thomas Junior. Okay,

723
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 8: Brian Thomas JUDI. So I just watched his highlights. I

724
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 8: watch a couple of his games, and I'm telling you,

725
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 8: he pretty much caught bombs his plays or bombs, and

726
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 8: he didn't do that much crossing. If he got hit,

727
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 8: he went down like a tongue. You will not do

728
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 8: that to Xavier Legatte. He may talk funny, but let

729
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 8: me tell you he's gonna truck you, and he is

730
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 8: going to get nothing but better within a real offensive line.

731
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 8: And so here's the thing. Put him in LSU's offense.

732
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 8: Put Brian Thomas Junior into Carolina's offense. I think you

733
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 8: w be shocked at the difference, absolutely shocked. So save

734
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 8: your draft picks. Let it come down to you. If

735
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 8: you can get him, even if you have to move

736
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 8: up a couple to get him, get him. If you

737
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 8: get McConkey, you know, God bless America, and you just

738
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 8: cruise and then you can actually do something with the

739
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 8: defense with your two.

740
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're appreaching to the choirs you're appreaching to.

741
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm all about Xavier Legett. I'm first and foremost the

742
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: thing about these other And here's the thing about Legett.

743
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: He's he did it for one year. Like you said,

744
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: now he had you know, he's on a on a

745
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: bad well, I don't want to say a bad team.

746
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: South Carolina wasn't a bad team, but you get you

747
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: get the idea he was. He made chicken soup, you know,

748
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: he made chicken soup out of chicken poop. So he

749
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: did really well in the environment that he was put in.

750
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: But he only did it for one year. That's kind

751
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: of the knock on him. And I've been telling Brownie

752
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: this up and down. Some of these other guys, even

753
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy to a certain extent. No, not Xavier Worthy,

754
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: the other guy, ad Mitchell. Ad Mitchell is not quite

755
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: as bad, but Xavier Worthy that Xavier Worthy wears a

756
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: buck sixty. You know, I think, first and foremost, you

757
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: got to have a pro body. Xavier Legette has got that.

758
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: He's a big, strong dude, even by NFL standards as

759
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. He's not tall, but he's thick well,

760
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: and he plays bigger and he plays physical. He's not

761
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: He's not a finesse dude. He is a player that

762
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: has some attitude and some grit, and I think that's

763
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: would be a great ingredient to the wide receiver room

764
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: as it currently stands in you know, with the bills,

765
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 1: I think he'll be there at twenty eight. We hope.

766
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: And the only knock on him is, like I said,

767
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: it's just not a big RESI long resume. He's got

768
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: a nice resume at the top, did some nice things lately,

769
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: but you know, it's been a short career for him.

770
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was Bloomer. Didn't really have a quarterback throwing

771
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: to him either until Rattler came on the scene as

772
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: a transfer and he puts up a twelve hundred and

773
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: fifty five yard season with seven touchdowns. The thing that

774
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: impressed me the most watching him play was, here is

775
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: a six to one, two hundred and twenty one pound

776
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: beast of a young man and he's pulling away from

777
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 2: defensive backs that look like track athletes and taking balls

778
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 2: to the end zone. I would be over the moon

779
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: if they got this kid. And oh, by the way,

780
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: he ran a four to three to nine forty at

781
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: the combine and a forty inch vertical. I mean he

782
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: is spring loaded for a two hundred and twenty one

783
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: pound frame, and he can power through contact. He's got

784
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: these huge, thick, muscular thighs. He gets compared to Deebo

785
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: Samuel because Deebo also went to South Carolina and his

786
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: bill is similar. So I just he does offer some

787
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: similar physical traits to that of Debo, And just by

788
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: our MSG viewers watching the highlights that we had on

789
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: our show, here can see how he does in contested

790
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: situations as well. And I said it three weeks ago.

791
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: I thought after the combine he was going to creep

792
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: into the bottom of Round one. Everybody had him as

793
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: a Day two pick after that combine and after people

794
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: get to listen to him and hear his story and

795
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 2: all the trials and tribulations he's been through and how

796
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 2: he's persevered. He's going to creep into the bottom of

797
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: round one. You just got to I'm just hoping now

798
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: that he's there at twenty eight if the Bill stay put,

799
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see what comes down the

800
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: pike there based on how the receivers in front of

801
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: him fall earlier in the round. God to take a

802
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: break here, but more of your phone calls when we

803
00:43:45,960 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: return here on One Bill's Live. Stay with us, all right,

804
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve've tasked

805
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: with you on a Monday, and we're gonna head right

806
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: back to the phones here as we've been asking you,

807
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: what's your best case scenario for the Bills in Round

808
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: one of the NFL Draft? To Mark in East Amherst. Next,

809
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: what's up? Mark?

810
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 5: Hey, Stephen, Chris, how you guys doing today?

811
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: Doing well? Thanks?

812
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: Glad to hear it.

813
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 5: So my guild draft scenario would be for the Bills

814
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 5: to freight up, excluding for the top three receivers, because

815
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 5: I just firmly believe that it would cost too much

816
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 5: draft capital to do that. So realistically, I think if

817
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 5: they can get to, you know, picks, maybe trade up

818
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 5: to seventeen sixteen, and I'm looking at Seattle at sixteen,

819
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 5: I'm looking at Jacksonville at seventeen, and he's still there.

820
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 5: I think that would be an ideill scenario, and then

821
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 5: give up next year's second round twenty twenty five draft pick,

822
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 5: perhaps this year's extra fourth round effect to do so.

823
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 5: I think that would be good to get ahead of

824
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 5: Cincinnati because I think they might pluck him and then

825
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 5: if not, possibly the Rams if he's still there, and

826
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 5: then if that can't happen, I think they should just

827
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 5: stay at twenty eight and then get their pick of Mitchell,

828
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 5: Legatt or McConkie, because I have a feeling that all

829
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 5: three of them possibly would be there. And then one point,

830
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 5: I just want to make it. I wanted to ask

831
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 5: your take on somebody. Do you think currently, like right now,

832
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 5: behind the scenes, knowing Brandon Bean and how shrewd and

833
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 5: smart he is, do you think he's making those calls

834
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 5: now just to consider to see if those teams were considered,

835
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 5: perhaps you know, trading with the Bills behind the scenes.

836
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 5: I was just wondering what you think about that.

837
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: That's that's common practice, actually, Mark. Sometimes those conversations start

838
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: as early as the combine, but more often than not

839
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 2: they do start after the first wave of free agency

840
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: kind of winds down. This is a time a year

841
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: where gms will call fellow gms and just make you know,

842
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: have exploratory conversations. How dead set are you staying there

843
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: and your spot at X? You know, would you ever

844
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: entertain moving out of that spot? Or you know, in

845
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: some GM might come back and say, look, we really

846
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: need a premium player and we feel we're going to

847
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: stay here, but if you have something in mind that

848
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: you think is enough to move up there, we'll listen

849
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: to it. There might be some people that say, don't

850
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: even call me on draft day. We're kind of committed.

851
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 2: We're staying put. We're not moving. If something changes, I'll

852
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: let you know. So those are the kinds of exploratory

853
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: conversations that go on. So now Brandon Bean can kind

854
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: of tick off his list. Okay, you know this team

855
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: at seven is not really interested in moving out of

856
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: that spot, so I'm gonna have to work around that

857
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: if I want to get up there. You know what

858
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: can I do at six? What can I do at eight?

859
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: Are those two teams interested? And you kind of work

860
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 2: your way down the list, so he has a firm

861
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: working knowledge of what is realistic in terms of landing

862
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: spots and what is not. That happens all the time.

863
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't discount. I think the thing that we

864
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: all know about and sometimes we discount and sometimes we

865
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: can't figure things out. What happens on the draft day,

866
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: sometimes emotion takes over in these draft war rooms. The

867
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: owners parachutes in, especially when quarterbacks are in right, and

868
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: they'll say, and the GM has said, listen, we told

869
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: them we do this and this, but they want this

870
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: extra third round, or they want this extra pick, or

871
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: they want this other player in order for us to

872
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: take that pick. But this guy's there and we didn't

873
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: think he was going to be and this is even

874
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: a better scenario for us than we had anticipated. And

875
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: the owner says, do it, he says, or go ahead

876
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: or on the draft day they all put their heads together,

877
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: the head coach and the GM put against said, yeah, okay,

878
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: we didn't think we thought we'd do it for this guy,

879
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: but this guy's even better. So let's sweeten the deal

880
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: and see if they'll do it. That kind of stuff happens,

881
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 1: And because obviously this whole draft scenario is free wheeling

882
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: and unpredictable. So when it gets to a place that

883
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: you couldn't quite predict or it's better than you thought

884
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: it was gonna be, you're willing to pay the extra

885
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: price for that.

886
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: And that's what makes me wonder. Based on what our

887
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: caller said right before that, you know, he thinks Mitchell, McCaughey,

888
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: and Legette, we'll all be there at twenty eight. I'm

889
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: not convinced that will be the case, but it might

890
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 2: be hoove Brandon to see how the board falls before

891
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: making such a move, because if one or two or

892
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: all three of those guys slide, you might just be

893
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: able to sit right where you are right and take

894
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: take whoever's left and be pretty happy with it.

895
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: Right, And here's the and well, yeah, but then there's

896
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: every scenario or every permutation that, Okay, now, what if

897
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: leget and mconkie are there but Mitchell's not. What if

898
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: Mitchell's there and leget or there, McConkie's not. What if

899
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: McConkie and Mitchell there, like, that's not all that stuff

900
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: is in there because you have there's no doubt you

901
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: always have those three guys ranked one, two, three, ABC

902
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: best medium and worst of the three. And plus what

903
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: you think about if they're all three there, what are

904
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: the chances that one or two of them will be

905
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: there at sixty zero?

906
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 2: Right?

907
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: Maybe, but it's easier to go. It's less expensive to

908
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: go from sixty to fifty five or sixty to fifty

909
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: than it is twenty eight to four.

910
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so.

911
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: All that stuff goes into the mix. And I think

912
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: that's as big an a deal. I think you'll have

913
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: to Yeah, Liget, Mconkie, Mitchell. They might all still be there,

914
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: but maybe only two of them are there, or one

915
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: of them is there, And then you gotta think about

916
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: what you want to do if those guys are the

917
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: one war just go get a big dude, you know,

918
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: get a lineman.

919
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 3: Right.

920
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: You gotta take a break here because we are up

921
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: against it. But our number two will begin with National

922
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 2: College Football Insider for the Athletic Bruce Feldman, who will

923
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: be joining the show. He's got his latest NFL mock draft,

924
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: and he's got his annual freaks list, and there are

925
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: some unbelievable superhuman dudes on that list this year. We'll

926
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: tell you some of the prospects and this year's draft

927
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 2: that made the cut. Next, you're on One Bill's Live

928
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 2: presented by Kilida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

929
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

930
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 2: All Right, our number two here on a Monday, Chris Brown,

931
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. One Bill's Live is the program

932
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: and topic of a discussion for you today. What is

933
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: your ideal scenario for Round one for the Bills in

934
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: the NFL Draft in just a couple of weeks. Had

935
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: some interesting responses thus far, although nobody chimed in with

936
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: trading Josh Allen, which was a phone call we took

937
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: last week if you recall, but hey, you never know

938
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: what you're gonna get.

939
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: Trade Shosh to Chicago, take Caleb Williams and just keep

940
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: it rolling. Yeah, not so much.

941
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: How about no? Uh so, that is still on the

942
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: table for you. At eight h three oh five point fifty,

943
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: we are waiting to make contact with National College Football

944
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 2: analyst for the Athletic On Bruce Feldman, who's going to

945
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: be joining us here on the show as he recently

946
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: put together his latest mock draft just two weeks out

947
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: with The thing I like about his draft is, we

948
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: know he talks to a lot of people in the

949
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: league being a national reporter, and so he has the pick,

950
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: his justification for the pick, and then team intel that

951
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: he has gathered through the course of the pre draft process,

952
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 2: whether at the combine, on the phone, or what have you. Right,

953
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: So it's kind of a nice comprehensive look at not

954
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: just a guy rifling off picks, you know, one through

955
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: thirty two. He's got, you know, something behind the pick

956
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: of his own volition, and then also some intel to

957
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 2: boot on that. So I kind of like the way

958
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 2: he puts his together. And then he's got his annual

959
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: freaks list, which will go over as well.

960
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, the freaks list is always good fun to go

961
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: over the guy. There's always some players on there that

962
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: who are going to get drafted, not this year so

963
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: much as in your future years that are coming up.

964
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: These guys that stand apart physically, and you know, and

965
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: when you get into this portion of the portion of

966
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: the year in the NFL calendar and you get in

967
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: the high first round, the first ten picks of this draft,

968
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: all these guys are different genetically, they're they're all different.

969
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: Oh and yeah, they're superhuman.

970
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

971
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: And so the streets list where we first start finding

972
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: out about him before they're actually even draft eligible. So

973
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: there's a couple of guys on this list that are

974
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: already like, just draft him now.

975
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: The guy that's number one is a freshman wide receiver

976
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 2: at South Carolina and Steve and I watched him run

977
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: the hundred in high school and you can't not laugh

978
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 2: while you're watching it because he comes out of the

979
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: blocks and nobody else comes up too.

980
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: He looks like a Tyrannosaurus rex running with a bunch

981
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: of chickens. That's the size difference. And he's and he

982
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 1: wins the race, right, he runs his one hundred meter race,

983
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: and it was looking like a dinosaur running amongst you know,

984
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: farm chickens. I mean, the guy is huge. He's six '

985
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: five two forty Yeah, and he's winning old. He's eighteen

986
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: years old. He's winning a hundred meter dashes on these

987
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: guys and it so, yeah, it's one of those is

988
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: kind of a list like that fun stuff. So yeah,

989
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: well I don't know where he got. I don't know

990
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: how the names crosses, you know how he finds out

991
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: about him, whether he's got feelers.

992
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: Out or I'm sure people send him stuff.

993
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that may be true to you, but man, oh man,

994
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: the guys that he pulls out of this are really, uh,

995
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: it's they're freakishly, freakishly different, and so it's it's fun

996
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: to read this list.

997
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: So we'll we'll go through it, especially some of the

998
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 2: draft prospects in this year's draft who did make the list,

999
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: including one that was at number two. But we'll get

1000
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: into all of that when we make contact with Bruce

1001
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 2: here in just a little bit. In the meantime, we

1002
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 2: go back to the phones at eight oh three oh

1003
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: five fifty and Bob and Tanawanda joins us.

1004
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: What do you got for us?

1005
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 9: Bob, Yeah, I'm a big fighting Irish fan, and I

1006
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 9: was wondering what you guys thought about Audric Estime and

1007
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 9: Sam Hartman. I've got some stats on Audrey. I just

1008
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 9: looked them all up. Two hundred and ten yards, two

1009
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 9: and ten of tempts to rush for a total of

1010
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 9: thirteen hundred and forty one yards and eighteen touchdowns. He's

1011
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 9: got a vertical jump of thirty nine. He weighs two

1012
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 9: twenty seven and.

1013
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the numbers here if you don't have him, Bob.

1014
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: He did trim down at the combine. He weighed two

1015
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: twenty one, so he trimmed down a little bit. I

1016
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: think the disappointing thing for him was he ran a

1017
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: four to seven to one, which I think was slower

1018
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 2: than most anticipated. But if that's a player that the

1019
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: Bills like, you know, maybe early day three that forty

1020
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: time could move him down some people's boards because it

1021
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: was a little bit below expectations. But thirty eight inch vertical,

1022
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 2: ten to five broad jump, twenty three reps on the bench.

1023
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: The thing that impresses me the most about him is

1024
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 2: his It's his contact balance. This is a powerback with

1025
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: contact balance. He almost never goes down on first contact.

1026
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 2: And the one thing that you don't often see Steve

1027
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: with power backs his patience at the line of scrimmage.

1028
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 2: Because if you've been a power back your whole life,

1029
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: you don't care. You just mash into the pile and

1030
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: know you're gonna get yard.

1031
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: You break through the due.

1032
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: He has a little bit more intelligent way of approaching it,

1033
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: even though he packs two hundred and twenty one pounds,

1034
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: you know, up there in the hole. There are times

1035
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 2: where he'll let the hole open up and then explode

1036
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: through them, and then there's other times where he will

1037
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 2: just lower the shoulder, you know, short yardage what have you,

1038
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: and drive defenders backwards through extra yardage.

1039
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be flipping, but yeah, it'll the

1040
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: Chargers will probably take him at number five. That's Jim

1041
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: Barba is transforming the Chargers. And then he's get to

1042
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: the power back. He'll bring his you know, he'll bring

1043
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: that guy. And of course he was a Michigan guy,

1044
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: not or don't notre Dame guy, but you know what

1045
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: I mean, So that kind of thing. You're right, he's

1046
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: a power back. He's gonna have a spot. He's gonna

1047
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: land somewhere in the NFL. Don't look for him to

1048
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: be drafted anywhere earlier than the third round. And that's

1049
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: we'll see the fact that he ran a four to

1050
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: seven forty is a crusher. But yeah, it doesn't mean

1051
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 1: average six point four year olds per carry. That doesn't

1052
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: mean he can't play. That's just one test number. So

1053
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: I can't see the Bills spending one on him until

1054
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: late late and I think he'll be gone by then,

1055
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: the one team who does need.

1056
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 2: The one thing that I'm curious about regarding personnel executives

1057
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: and how they evaluate this is estimate, by all accounts,

1058
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: had a very productive season in twenty twenty three. I mean,

1059
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: eighteen rushing touchdowns is nothing to sneeze at at any

1060
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: level of college football, let alone the top level, which

1061
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: is where Notre Dame resides, as we know. But he

1062
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: also is playing behind a top shelf offensive line which

1063
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: is going to have a left tackle go in the

1064
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: top ten and Joe Alt this year. So I always

1065
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 2: wonder how personnel executives evaluate running backs that play behind

1066
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: top shelf offensive lines, because you have to weigh that

1067
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: into the equation, like, hey, it's great that this kid

1068
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 2: averaged six point four yards of carry, but could any

1069
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: Tom Dick or Harry do almost as well? Because this

1070
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: Notre Dame offensive line is so good. So I always

1071
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 2: wonder how they judge that view that evaluate that and

1072
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: whether it helps or hurts the running back.

1073
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he also had two hundred and nine attempts this

1074
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: last year and only had one fumble, so he sure handed.

1075
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: And of course he's playing for Notre Dame, so I

1076
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: get it. He only had seventeen catches. It's like won

1077
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: a game one of those half a game, but that

1078
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: wasn't his forte. So I think it would come down

1079
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: to for him if a team was looking for a

1080
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: back and needed and wanted a certain physical type, which

1081
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: he would fit. A big guy. He's not fast, but

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00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: he's big and heavy. That's where you're gonna That's where

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00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: you would probably see him go a team that was

1084
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: looking for a guy to come in and contribute as

1085
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,439
Speaker 1: a powerback and come in and was sure handed. Now

1086
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: he could enhance that with a workout like catch the ball. Well,

1087
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: show him then he didn't really ask He wasn't asked

1088
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: to catch the football a lot, so you know he'd

1089
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: have to change that narrative or prove that to be

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00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: part of his skill set.

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Speaker 2: He also asked about Sam Hartman, the quarterback at Notre

1092
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: Dame who was in this draft class as well. He

1093
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: was the sixth year player. He played at Wake Forest

1094
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: his first five years, got the bonus year from the

1095
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: COVID year, and also missed most of the twenty nineteen

1096
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: season due to injury, so he got a sixty year

1097
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: of eligibility transferred to Notre Dame was their starting quarterback

1098
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: last year, and he did have his highest completion percentage

1099
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: of his career there at sixty three and a half percent,

1100
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 2: twenty four touchdowns, eight picks. I mean he was productive.

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00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: He was even more productive at Wake where they threw

1102
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 2: the ball all over the yard. I mean, he's got

1103
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: a forty two hundred yard passing season, thirty seven hundred

1104
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 2: yard passing season. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see where

1105
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Speaker 2: he goes. Could be a you know, a late Day two,

1106
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: you know, Day three pick, went to the Senior Bowl.

1107
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going to pretend to remember the kind of

1108
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 2: week he had down there. You know, with Josh Allen

1109
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: on our roster, I'm not really paying super close attention

1110
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: to the quarterbacks. I think he's a capable NFL prospect,

1111
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: but I think he's going to be a backup in

1112
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: the league at least to start his career. I mean,

1113
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: if he can blossom into something more great, but I

1114
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 2: kind of think that's where he fits. But he's not

1115
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 2: Drew Brees, No, but he's about the same size, right,

1116
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 2: that's his size. He's not a big dude, but that's

1117
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: not a deal breaker. I don't know what kind of

1118
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: arm strength. He has on kind of a live, live

1119
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: army of what kind of pro army has. But I

1120
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: think the fact that he spent so much time in

1121
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: the college ranks and and progressed in his career, I think,

1122
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: you know, he he does display some of the stuff

1123
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 2: you look for, and certainly he's probably got a lot

1124
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: of intangibles that are that are really good, particularly you know,

1125
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: taken over a job.

1126
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Speaker 1: Like he did their Notre Dame. So we'll see. I'm

1127
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: with Brownie. Sam Harten is a guy that's gonna get drafted,

1128
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: but not on the first probably not in the first

1129
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 1: two days of the draft.

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Speaker 2: We are pleased now to be joined by National College

1131
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: Football Insider for the Athletic Bruce Feldman, joining the show

1132
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 2: as this is the time of year where some more

1133
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: of his material comes into focus, obviously as ever popular

1134
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 2: annual Freaks List, but also just issued a new mock draft. Bruce,

1135
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us, appreciate the time.

1136
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 4: Great to be hon with you guys. Thanks for having me.

1137
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: I gotta we'll get to the mock draft in just

1138
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: a second here, but I gotta ask you your number

1139
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 2: one guy on your Freaks List, had there ever before

1140
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 2: been a college freshman that was number one on your

1141
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: Freaks list.

1142
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 10: No, but Nick Harber is like the deaf notion of

1143
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 10: a freak. I mean he to be that big and

1144
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 10: to be legit like sprinter, super fast track guy. He's

1145
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 10: an interesting project for South Carolina. And we'll see how

1146
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 10: he develops. I mean he's a guy some people thought

1147
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 10: as an edge rusher. They're used as a receiver. We'll

1148
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 10: see how he how he develops there. But just a

1149
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 10: spectacular athlete and was a was basically a five star

1150
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 10: guy because I think people knew the side speed size

1151
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 10: speed ratio is like off the charts.

1152
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it really is interesting to see these guys

1153
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: and what they can do. And most of these guys,

1154
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: some of them are coming out, you know, Marvin Harrison

1155
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: is obviously on this list as well.

1156
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

1157
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: Some of these guys are draft eligible, others are not.

1158
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: Give me an idea. Where do you who sends you

1159
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,959
Speaker 1: this stuff that you have? I mean, because I would

1160
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: never have heard you. Most of us never heard of

1161
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: Nick Harbor until this year, until your list.

1162
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 10: So it's a lot. I work on it for almost

1163
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 10: half the year. I kind of dabble and and work

1164
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 10: on it and talk to people.

1165
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 4: Strength. Coaches are a great resource for me, and it's

1166
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 4: I've done this for almost.

1167
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 10: Twenty years, so it's guys that I have, you know,

1168
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 10: relationship relationships with and also know you know who I

1169
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 10: can trust and who's really you know you you you

1170
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 10: put more, maybe more stock in this guy's word than

1171
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 10: maybe that guy's.

1172
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 4: So I start with that.

1173
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 10: I talked to a lot of coaches over the year,

1174
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 10: talked to a lot of NFL scouts now as as

1175
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 10: somebody who has spent you know, almost a decade as

1176
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 10: a sideline reporter. I'd go out and do games and

1177
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 10: before when I would talk to people pregame, one of

1178
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 10: the groups that I would end up meeting was NFL

1179
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 10: scouts who would be on the field before before the game,

1180
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,479
Speaker 10: and a lot of them would talk to me about

1181
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 10: the Freaks List, and it was flattering and cool, very

1182
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 10: humbling to to meet a lot of those folks and

1183
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 10: hear what they thought about it. But also then I

1184
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 10: started tapping into them because they were a great resource

1185
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 10: because those guys are on the road. Those folks are

1186
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 10: on the road almost all year round, and so I'd

1187
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 10: open it up to smaller school guys, not just FBS,

1188
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 10: but FCS Division two, division some Now there's a Division

1189
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 10: III lineman from one of the Wisconsin schools who was

1190
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 10: on there, and I just there's great football everywhere, and

1191
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 10: there's great athletes, and so that was a big part

1192
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 10: for me just to kind of branch out, and it

1193
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 10: was I felt like it was the next step for

1194
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 10: the Freaks List to expand.

1195
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the money quotes that you that you have

1196
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 2: in there are unbelievable. Also, like Colin Kingsley, Sue Mattia

1197
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 2: Sua Mattia the most athletic and violent offense offensive lineman,

1198
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: the guy's ever coached. Some Mario Cristobal down at Miami's saying,

1199
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: the guy's got the best muscle density ever. I don't

1200
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: even know what muscle density is, but it sounds impressive. So, uh,

1201
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 2: just to kind of read through some of these things

1202
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: at what some guys are squatting and what some guys

1203
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 2: are benching, It's like, I don't even know how muscles

1204
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 2: hold up under that kind of stress, but these guys

1205
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 2: just put it up like it's not even a I mean,

1206
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 2: it looked like they're lifting toothpicks. It's ridiculous.

1207
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I think at that age where it's development

1208
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 10: and everything else. I'm not sure. Look for a lot

1209
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 10: of these guys. It's some of the ones who are

1210
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 10: in the combine this past month, They're probably never going

1211
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 10: to run forty again. They're probably not going to do

1212
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 10: a broad jump, a vertical jump, you know, a lot

1213
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 10: of the other you know, position specific stuff. I'd be curious,

1214
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 10: you know, like obviously Steve was an elite athlete, you

1215
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 10: know for a long time. You know how much different

1216
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 10: you are when you're physically twenty two years old coming

1217
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 10: out of college compared to you know, what you have

1218
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 10: to be as an NFL player with the wear and

1219
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 10: tear on your body over time, and maybe what that does.

1220
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 4: Are you quite as fast? Are you just stronger?

1221
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 3: You know?

1222
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 10: Like I just think it's it's kind of a different,

1223
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 10: different ask, And a lot of these guys, honestly, can

1224
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 10: can train specifically for this, you know, for the short

1225
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 10: shuttle and for the broad jump in different things than

1226
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 10: they do because they know that's the stuff that will

1227
01:05:58,800 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 10: generate a lot of buzz.

1228
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: One guy that caught my eye real quick was because

1229
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 2: he's kind of an interesting case is the LSU defensive

1230
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 2: lineman Mason Smith because he had the ACL injury, and

1231
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 2: much of his twenty twenty three tape, at least on

1232
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 2: the field, is not overly impressive because it doesn't look

1233
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: like he did pre injury. A lot of people are

1234
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 2: of the opinion that well, that's his kind of recoup

1235
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 2: year and he'll get back to more of what he

1236
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 2: is next year. But that's that becomes difficult for a

1237
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: projection for NFL scouts and personnel executives. What has your

1238
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: intel told you about him in terms of his projection

1239
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 2: and how most teams see him, knowing his twenty twenty

1240
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: three tape doesn't measure up to what he put on

1241
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: tape before that.

1242
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, and when what you're really talking about is twenty

1243
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 10: twenty one tape right right rightly part of it because

1244
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 10: he was a true freshman, He was a huger crew

1245
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 10: coming out of high school at Ozeron was still the

1246
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 10: head coach at LSU. Big, really really athletic. I don't

1247
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 10: know if he would he's bigger than Leonard Williams, but

1248
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 10: in the in the you know, it has the flexibility

1249
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 10: of some teams look at him as an outside guy,

1250
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 10: but he is, you know, really tall, really long and

1251
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 10: I think you have to project because what are you

1252
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 10: going to get out of him, because like he's he

1253
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 10: was banged up for most of his three years at LSU. Yeah,

1254
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 10: I'm guessing he probably had five different position coaches in

1255
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 10: that time on top of it, because LSU had I

1256
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 10: think at least three or four defensive line coaches since

1257
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 10: Brian Kelly got there, and that's the second staff that

1258
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 10: he had. So there's just a lot of stuff to

1259
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 10: sort out. There's a lot of potential there and I

1260
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 10: could see him being a guy where you're like, Okay,

1261
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 10: if he starts falling, we're going to take a chance

1262
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 10: on him because there's a lot of there's a lot

1263
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 10: of stuff to work with and character wise, I don't

1264
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 10: think there's big questions about him, but it's just he

1265
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 10: hasn't really done a lot and I think you see it.

1266
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 10: He probably flashes. But again, you know, to have those

1267
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,439
Speaker 10: kind of physical traits, what can he develop into.

1268
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: One of the things about this list, you catch these

1269
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: guys like Nick Harbor, they're eighteen when they come out,

1270
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: if they're twenty two or like some of these COVID

1271
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: guys are coming out much older because they get that

1272
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: extra year Almost all of these guys end up finger quotes,

1273
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: end up being big guys. You know, they end up

1274
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: being offensive lineman, defensive lineman, because when they're eighteen, they

1275
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: even as big as they are coming out at two forty,

1276
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're three fifteen as a fifth

1277
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: year senior, and everything changes for them. Now still got

1278
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: that freaky speed and athleticism and all that, but their

1279
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: body changes. How many I know, I'm sure you keep

1280
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: track of these guys with interest about you know, how

1281
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 1: well you can pick them for future. But do you

1282
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: see that being a can you give us some generalization

1283
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: about what happens to these guys physically as they mature.

1284
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 10: Well, A good example of this is a name that

1285
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 10: a lot of people will remember because of his dad

1286
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 10: is Chris Jenkins. His dad was obviously a really good

1287
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 10: NFL d lineman, and Chris Jenkins wasn't a big recruit

1288
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 10: when he came out of high school to go to Michigan.

1289
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 10: Who's a three star recruit. He's put on about fifty

1290
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 10: sixty pounds since he's been there. He was one of

1291
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 10: my top five guys on the Freaks List. Jim Harbaugh

1292
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 10: thinks he's a top ten pick overall. They call him

1293
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 10: the mutant he was. You know, now he's over three

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Speaker 10: hundred pounds and he moves like he's still to sixty

1295
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 10: or two seventy. And I think what you have to

1296
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 10: see with a guy like that is the system he

1297
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,560
Speaker 10: played in. They were not asking him to just go

1298
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 10: up the field and go make plays. I think it

1299
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 10: was you were a piece in this defense, and so

1300
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 10: he wasn't going to put up the numbers and the

1301
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 10: TfL numbers and be as disruptive or productive as maybe

1302
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 10: he would have been in some other systems. But obviously

1303
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 10: he was on a great defense. They won a national title.

1304
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 10: He's a high character guy and he's guy now. I

1305
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 10: think there is like he's an interesting player. I don't

1306
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 10: know if he sneaks in the first round or not. Athletically,

1307
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 10: the coaches I talked to for my mock draft said

1308
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 10: you played him.

1309
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 4: They're like, he absolutely.

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01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 10: I can see why they said he's a four to

1311
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 10: eight guy at three hundred pounds, because that's what I

1312
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 10: see on film.

1313
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 4: You see the athletic trades.

1314
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 10: It's just the production in terms of if you want

1315
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 10: to look at stats, and you could say this about

1316
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 10: you know a bunch of Michigan players, including their quarterback

1317
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 10: JJ McCarthy.

1318
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 4: The stats, the individual stats.

1319
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 10: Aren't necessarily there what you would expect for a guy

1320
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 10: who's a top fifty pick, But what they see on film,

1321
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 10: what they see physically, the traits, what you hear from

1322
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 10: the coaches, all that stuff resonates.

1323
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a good transition to your mock draft

1324
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 2: because in your latest edition here at the Athletic, you've

1325
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 2: got quarterbacks going one through four, and you've got essentially

1326
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 2: Minnesota going up to four in a trade up the

1327
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: board with their two first round picks, his ammunition to

1328
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,839
Speaker 2: number four and a deal with Arizona to take JJ McCarthy,

1329
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: who you just mentioned. And I guess, I guess this

1330
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 2: is a matter of perspective, but and maybe NFL clubs

1331
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 2: felt this way about JJ McCarthy all along, but his

1332
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 2: assent in the pre draft process. I don't know if

1333
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 2: there's another player that has made a move like he has,

1334
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 2: or at least a perceived move like he has. And Yeah,

1335
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 2: I think you're right. It's not about the stats, because

1336
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 2: those aren't going to shine brightly on him. It's everything

1337
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 2: else that you discern from the film, play after play

1338
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 2: after play, whether it's on script, offscript, et cetera. But

1339
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 2: this is music to the years of Bills fans, Bruce,

1340
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 2: because if there's four quarterbacks at the top, it's pushing

1341
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 2: all that other stuff down. I'llbe it a long way

1342
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 2: to go before you get to the Bills at twenty eight.

1343
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 2: But how realistic do you think it turns out one

1344
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 2: through four all quarterbacks?

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Speaker 10: I mean, look, I had a trade in there that

1346
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 10: it's you know, we'll see if any If that happens,

1347
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 10: I think you will see five quarterbacks with Michael PENNOCKX

1348
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 10: Junior being the fifth go within the first fifteen. And

1349
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 10: if that's the case, that does, you know, help the

1350
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 10: Bills out because that that does push some guys down.

1351
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 10: I don't know where Boone Nix ends up going to.

1352
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 10: You know, does Sean Payton grab him with the Broncos.

1353
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 10: I mean it's then it would be six. I think

1354
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 10: I feel like Pennix is the most slept on guy

1355
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 10: of this group in terms of what I see of

1356
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 10: the draft analyst crowds talking about him compared to this

1357
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 10: coaches I talked to who have faced Michael Pennock Junior

1358
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 10: who think he has elite arm talent, and in the

1359
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 10: case of J. J. McCarthy's another guy where he turned

1360
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 10: a lot of heads from people who might have been

1361
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 10: skeptical at the combine with how well he threw it.

1362
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 10: I don't I don't think enough people realized how good

1363
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 10: of an athlete he is, how well he throws on

1364
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 10: the run. You know, in Michigan system, it required a

1365
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 10: lot of footwork and a lot of training that was

1366
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,560
Speaker 10: way different from a lot of the spread stuff that

1367
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 10: you see in around college football. And I think those

1368
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 10: things bode well. The people I talked to rave about

1369
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 10: his character and leadership and his toughness and his football smarts,

1370
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 10: and those are the things that are going to play

1371
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 10: very well when coaches and gms and executives are getting

1372
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,839
Speaker 10: to know who are we invested in, especially in that position.

1373
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 4: So I could see why he's making an assent. I

1374
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 4: don't know how real the assent is.

1375
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 10: In terms of, like, you know, did some of those

1376
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 10: same folks go, oh, JJ McCarthy is like a second

1377
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,560
Speaker 10: round talent or whatever. I don't know what they you know,

1378
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 10: who knows what they actually thought compared to what they

1379
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 10: think now. But I think sometimes you see people put

1380
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 10: you know, put together these these way early mock draft lists.

1381
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 10: You know, I'm talking to year out, and they're way

1382
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 10: off base, it turns out, because there's just a lot

1383
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 10: of work to be done and the players are still developing.

1384
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 4: And I just don't think a lot of.

1385
01:13:55,640 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 10: People who who actually would know are are telling those

1386
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 10: people who do it what these guys actually are about,

1387
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 10: as opposed to maybe what they think they're about, because

1388
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 10: they see what this guy was a five star guy

1389
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:10,520
Speaker 10: out of high school.

1390
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 4: Three years ago.

1391
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: He said to the last one from me, Bruce, you know,

1392
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 1: obviously your mock draft, you've got Ady Mitchell coming to Buffalo.

1393
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,799
Speaker 1: What other wide receivers at twenty eight do you anticipate

1394
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: still being on the board. I mean, who are the

1395
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: Bills picking out of that they're going to pick a

1396
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: d Mitchell? Is it going to be like Xavier Worthy,

1397
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 1: Xavier Legette, McConkey.

1398
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: You know which?

1399
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: I guess which receivers are going to be off the

1400
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: board that they're going to take a d Mitchell.

1401
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 10: Well, the ones that I think will definitely be off

1402
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 10: the board, the first three, I'm going to say, the

1403
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 10: first four. I know people look at it as a

1404
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 10: great I think that's real with Marvin Harrison Junior, Roma

1405
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 10: Dunza Malik Neighbors from LSU.

1406
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 4: And then the fourth one for me is Brian Thomas.

1407
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 10: Brian Thomas, from everything I heard, you know, he was

1408
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 10: a dominant red zone receiver with great measurables. I mean

1409
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 10: he's six three two fifteen and he runs four three five.

1410
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 10: He also from everything I was told, has you know,

1411
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 10: people were very impressed with how football savvy he is

1412
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 10: and a lot of stuff shined through the ones who

1413
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,839
Speaker 10: I think fit into that category of could be available

1414
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,799
Speaker 10: for the Bills. And I think Ady Mitchell is similar

1415
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 10: in terms of traits to Brian Thomas. He might not

1416
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 10: be quite as tall, but he's close. He's as fast

1417
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 10: as explosive. The tricky part with him a little bit,

1418
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 10: and he does great ball skills. But just as the

1419
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 10: route running is, the consistency there was it was something

1420
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 10: that you know, some folks said was a little bit

1421
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 10: of a not a red flag, but just a little

1422
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 10: bit of a that needs to get developed and improved.

1423
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 10: But after that you mentioned Xavier Worthy, who can really fly.

1424
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 10: He improved a lot.

1425
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 4: Last year. The better, you know, more reliable hands also

1426
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 4: I was told he was.

1427
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 10: He was one of the best practice players they've had

1428
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 10: since Steve Sarkis and staff has got there. Troy Franklin

1429
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 10: can fly from Oregon. I think he would be around

1430
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 10: Roman Wilson. I think will be a second round guy

1431
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 10: from Michigan. Is really slick, really fast. Was by far

1432
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 10: their their best playmaker. Outside you mentioned Lad mcconky. He

1433
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 10: tested really well. I think he's a guy who's going

1434
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 10: to be a big time slot in the NFL. I

1435
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,959
Speaker 10: think he's probably a second round guy. Lagett is interesting

1436
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 10: because he is almost like Malachi Corley at Western Entucky,

1437
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 10: almost like Deebo Samuel in terms of, you know, like

1438
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 10: built like a running back, super strong, great with the

1439
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 10: ball in their hands. Lagett is a is a is

1440
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 10: a really terrific special teams guy too. I know from

1441
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 10: talking to the South Carolina coaches, they love how he

1442
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 10: took to that and I think he will make somebody

1443
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 10: better immediately. He's still got to work on the on

1444
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 10: the refinement and the polish as a route runner, but

1445
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 10: he's a big time athlete. I think it wouldn't shock

1446
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 10: me if he if he's snuck in the late in

1447
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 10: the first round, because of all the how he has

1448
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 10: and you're talking about a guy who is so physically

1449
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 10: strong and is really athletic. I mean, this is a

1450
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 10: I think this is a great great draft or receiver

1451
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 10: starting with the top four, but it goes on. I

1452
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 10: think you can get legit, big time playmakers, probably deep

1453
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 10: into the second into the third round.

1454
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 2: Right And I think that's the chief concern of Bills

1455
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 2: fans because you have this gaping hole at your number

1456
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 2: one wide out spot, and I realize you have Curtis

1457
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 2: Samuel on the roster and you have some other veterans,

1458
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 2: and Kincaid's probably going to have a much larger role

1459
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 2: in this passing game, even next year after catching seventy

1460
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 2: three balls as a rookie. So I guess the question is,

1461
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 2: when you're evaluating ad Mitchell, do you see a guy that, maybe,

1462
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,719
Speaker 2: if not right away, has the potential to mature into

1463
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 2: a number one receiver type role. I mean, this is

1464
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 2: a guy that whether he was at Georgia or whether

1465
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 2: he is at Texas, he owned Alabama and they've got

1466
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 2: two guys that are going to get drafted in the

1467
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 2: first round at cornerback probably.

1468
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think so, you're right, and he did. He

1469
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 10: was dominant against them. I mean, he is a red

1470
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 10: zone weapon. He has to get a little more polished

1471
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 10: to him, but yes, he has the traits to be

1472
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 10: a number one receiver and to be a dynamic playing,

1473
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 10: you know player. I mean, Nico Collins has really exploded

1474
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 10: in the NFL. And he's a guy who you looked

1475
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 10: at and go, Okay, why is it not happening for him?

1476
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 10: You know in college, you know Adie Mitchell when like

1477
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 10: we did the k State game they had and he

1478
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 10: had some big plays there and you looked at him,

1479
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 10: You're like, oh, as soon as you see him warms,

1480
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 10: He's like, Okay, I can see why everybody made a

1481
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 10: big deal about him because some of the stuff he does.

1482
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 10: I mean, he's a he looks like what you to

1483
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 10: think an NFL number one receiver looks like I just

1484
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 10: think it's a matter of continue to develop. But he

1485
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 10: he's a guy who just on what you know, kind

1486
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 10: of the top end stuff. You're like, oh, this guy

1487
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 10: has like top ten kind of talent and ability. You

1488
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 10: just kind of got to get the consistency from it.

1489
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: Bruce, thanks so much for spend some time with us.

1490
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 4: My pleasure thanks for having me, guys, all.

1491
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 2: Right, appreciate it. That's Bruce Feld been joining us. He

1492
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 2: is the NFL college football insider for the Athletic. He's

1493
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 2: got his mock draft up there now, so check it

1494
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 2: out to see how he has stuff falling. Quarterbacks one, two, three,

1495
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 2: four be great for the Bills and anybody else not

1496
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 2: in the market for a quarterback, so that he thinks

1497
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 2: it up to five, perhaps even six go if Denver

1498
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 2: gets panicky and pulls the trigger on bow Nickx, if

1499
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 2: Pennix is off the board, to one of the teams

1500
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 2: in front of them.

1501
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: So those three teams at eleven, twelve, thirteen are really intriguing. Minnesota, Denver,

1502
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: Vegas all need quarterbacks.

1503
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: Break time for us here Steve and I with more,

1504
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 2: including your best case scenario for the Bills after round

1505
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Speaker 2: one of the draft in twenty twenty four. You let

1506
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 2: us know what you think that is when we return

1507
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 2: here on one Bill's Live. Stay with us. Well, what's

1508
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 2: your best case scenario for the Bills in round one

1509
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 2: of the draft. You can let us know at aight

1510
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: h three zero five to fifty. But let's check the

1511
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 2: tweet sheet brought to you by Coreyan Moving Systems, official

1512
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 2: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and from seventeen

1513
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 2: for MVP that somehow or some way, Brian Thomas Junior

1514
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: is in striking distance for Brandon Bean. If he sees

1515
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 2: somebody sliding, he doesn't hesitate, he makes a move. Douglas

1516
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet says getting one of the top

1517
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 2: three wide receivers without trading away our twenty twenty four

1518
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 2: second round pick. They do have two, Douglas, they do

1519
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 2: have two. Oh no, they have won this year. Sorry,

1520
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,679
Speaker 2: I was thinking next year without trading away their second

1521
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 2: round pick. Yeah, that would require trading one of those

1522
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 2: future twos you would think, or maybe even a future one.

1523
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not interested in doing all of that. You

1524
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: can trade the twenty eight pick and a two and

1525
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: next year get you Yeah, next year you can't.

1526
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 2: You know, that might get you up to like sixteen seven, right, So.

1527
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: That's as high as you get.

1528
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 2: You know, you're talking turkey with Seattle or Jacksonville there,

1529
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 2: and you know jack I know Jacksonville lost Calvin Ridley,

1530
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 2: but they might not be hard up for a receiver there.

1531
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 2: I mean, they added Gabe Davis. They still have Christian Kirk.

1532
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 2: Jay Jones is I think still on the roster, so

1533
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 2: it's not like they're devoid of receiver talent, and they

1534
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 2: might be in the market for some offensive linemen. So

1535
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 2: as long as the run hasn't started on tackles, you know,

1536
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 2: maybe you can convince that that's the thing too.

1537
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 1: There's a ton of quarterbacks. They're gonna get taken in

1538
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: the first round probably, and like Bruce Feldman said, maybe

1539
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: maybe five in the top fifteen, there's probably at least

1540
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: five offensive tackles that are getting taken. So there's ten.

1541
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,799
Speaker 1: So you got to get through the next eighteen guys

1542
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 1: and the top three wide receivers, so that'd be the

1543
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: fifteen guys.

1544
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 2: As a tight end in their powers, that's fourteen probably

1545
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 2: two corners Quinnon, Mitchell and Terry and Arnold.

1546
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 1: There's twelve. There's twelve guys to get to twenty eight.

1547
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: And and you know the next, the very next wide

1548
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: receiver taken is gonna be you know, Brian.

1549
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 2: Thomas, Byron Murphy, the defensive tackle from Texas is probably

1550
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 2: coming off the board in the top twenty.

1551
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: Okay, there's an there's you know another yeah, but that's

1552
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 1: still That's that's what you're looking.

1553
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 2: They're sweating to get there, right, You're gonna be sweating, Yeah,

1554
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 2: somebody's Brandon Bean's gonna need a John Thompson towel for

1555
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 2: the first round.

1556
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 1: I'll say this though, even if Brian Thomas Junior isn't

1557
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 1: gonna be there, Xavier Worthy's gonna be there, mel Ladd

1558
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: McConkie's gonna be there, Xavier Legut's gonna be there. One

1559
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: of those three are gonna be there. And I don't

1560
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: have a problem with any of them.

1561
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 2: So you're fine sitting tight if I can get one

1562
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 2: of those three. If I can get one of those

1563
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 2: three guys, preferably Mitchell and Lo yet because I love

1564
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 2: Lad mcconakie, but I just think they need some.

1565
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 1: Size gets at the position. To me, Legett is the

1566
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: dude because he's got now certainly he's yeah, he's got

1567
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,799
Speaker 1: some something to work on, bit, but athletically and physically

1568
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 1: he's off the charge.

1569
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,560
Speaker 2: Well, and what do we say all the time, and

1570
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 2: what is a high end what is Brandon Bean target

1571
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: in the drafts in round one trades elite physical traits.

1572
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,759
Speaker 2: I would argue that a d. Mitchell has elite physical traits,

1573
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 2: and I think Legett obviously has elite physical traits, so

1574
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:23,759
Speaker 2: they would both check that box. Jeremy on the tweet

1575
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 2: sheet says, give picks away for a known commodity in

1576
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: a wide receiver. I know that's not the bean way,

1577
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 2: but I'd rather the picks get spent on a proven

1578
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 2: player than to roll the dice and spend the picks

1579
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 2: moving up on someone that could potentially not be the guy.

1580
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 2: This was the argument I made last week where and

1581
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 2: don't say it's not the bean way. How did he

1582
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 2: get Digs? He traded a first, a fourth, and a

1583
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 2: fifth and a sixth to get Stefan Digs in here,

1584
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 2: who was a proven commodity. So you know Brand and

1585
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 2: I you a steep price. You know Brand and I

1586
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 2: you could be had in a trade. You know T

1587
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 2: Higgins could be had in a trade. What are you

1588
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 2: willing to give up? And secondarily, what are you willing

1589
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 2: to sign the guy to on a long term contract.

1590
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 2: That's going to have to be supremely creative, knowing your

1591
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 2: cap room is minimal this year, you'd have to get

1592
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 2: that receiver under the auspices of, hey, you're not really

1593
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 2: going to make your big money until next year. It's guaranteed,

1594
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 2: but it doesn't kick in until next year. How amenable

1595
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 2: would they be to that? That's the other fly in

1596
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:26,799
Speaker 2: the ointment.

1597
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: There's a lot. The possibilities are endless, but all and

1598
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: all it takes is one person or one entity to

1599
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: say no and it doesn't happen. So you got to

1600
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: sit tight. I'm I'm right now. I'm thinking that the

1601
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: most the Bills flip flop a couple of picks up

1602
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 1: into the mid twenties. Small move, I think, because I

1603
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: think they enjoy and need. Although think about this, brownie,

1604
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 1: let me throw this in before we go to break

1605
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 1: the Bills with the Steph Diggs move and others have

1606
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 1: looks like they're walking into next year with a ton

1607
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: of cap space.

1608
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 2: Right and depending on v Seiler's future after this year

1609
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 2: could be even more.

1610
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: Free agency is going to be a thing that's going

1611
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 1: to be back on the front burner. So yeah, but

1612
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 1: they never really who need draft picks next year?

1613
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 2: I never really signed giant deals in free agency really anymore,

1614
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 2: since the von Miller is one of the loan exceptions

1615
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 2: and those more steel.

1616
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: That's what they'll have. The cap room to do that

1617
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 1: next year. They haven't in the last three years, so

1618
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: maybe they will say, you know what, we don't. We

1619
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: ain't gonna need those draft picks next year because we

1620
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: can buy some guys that are proven.

1621
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 2: Bills Mafia, that's Bills with a Z on the tweets

1622
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 2: sheet says the Cardinals trade the fourth pick in the

1623
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 2: draft to the Vikings, leaving the Bills to make a

1624
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 2: massive trade up to number five overall with the Chargers

1625
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 2: to select Marvin Harrison Junior. The Bills get a generational,

1626
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 2: talented wide receiver to pair with Josh for the next decade.

1627
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 2: Love your idea. Unfortunately, I think the Chargers are just

1628
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 2: as interested in Martin Harrison. Jud right, they just lost

1629
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,839
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen and Mike Williams is playing for the Jets.

1630
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: They need an influx a guy that is arguably just

1631
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 1: as good, if not better, for a tenth of the price.

1632
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's the only problem with that proposal.

1633
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 2: The Chargers like him just as much as the as you.

1634
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 1: Do less Jim, Like I said, unless Jim Harbaugh wants

1635
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: to stay where he's at and drafted running back.

1636
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 2: Number five or an offensive tack or offensive tack which

1637
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: could be Joe Alt you know, could be backbone, says

1638
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 2: Bill's trade up to number nine to select a Dunze

1639
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 2: Bills get their number one while blocking jumping the Jets

1640
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 2: from getting him as well. Yeah, let's not forget the

1641
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 2: Jets pick a ten. And the general consensus that we've

1642
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 2: seen in a lot of the mock drafts is they're

1643
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 2: gonna take either one of the top three receivers if

1644
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 2: they're available, or Brock Bowers, the tight end from Georgia,

1645
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 2: the top tight end.

1646
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: They're not gonna You don't think the Jets will go

1647
01:26:58,120 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: offensive line.

1648
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 2: The general thing that I'm hearing out of New York

1649
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 2: from people with their ear to the ground there that

1650
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 2: I talked to is receiver or tight end. Apparently they

1651
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 2: believe that some of the mid round offensive tackles they've

1652
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 2: drafted the last couple of years, Max Mitchell and the

1653
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 2: like can serve as capable backups to Tyron Smith and

1654
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 2: Morgan Moses, who are both thirty four years old and

1655
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,759
Speaker 2: probably won't get through a seventeen game season.

1656
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: So for the second that those two guys can get

1657
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:31,759
Speaker 1: through a seventeen play drive.

1658
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,560
Speaker 2: So for the second straight season, the Jets could be

1659
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: walking down the same path they trudged last year to

1660
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 2: horrific disaster.

1661
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,560
Speaker 1: Of course they're going to how can you what?

1662
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 2: All right, we're up against the clock. We'll see if

1663
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 2: we have time to take one more phone call when

1664
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 2: we get back here on One Bill's Live, Stay tune

1665
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 2: final segment. Here on a Monday edition to One Bill's Live,

1666
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 2: Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you're gonna squeeze a phone

1667
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 2: call in Mark and West Seneca. What do you got hey? Mark?

1668
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 2: Are you there?

1669
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 11: I'm here?

1670
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got thirty seconds for you.

1671
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 1: What do you got?

1672
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 11: Real quick?

1673
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:24,719
Speaker 5: Stay?

1674
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 11: Put hold on to those draft picks first second, twos.

1675
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 11: Next year, you remake your defense with those picks.

1676
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 1: You gotta do it.

1677
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 11: You'll get a really good player. They showed last year

1678
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 11: last seven games what they can do with the talent

1679
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,799
Speaker 11: they already have, and you're gonna get an above average

1680
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 11: guy at twenty eight.

1681
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 3: All right?

1682
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 2: I like it, Mark? Yeah, I mean I think you

1683
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 2: can make the argument for standing pat. Obviously, if the

1684
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:52,560
Speaker 2: board changes, your plan has to change too, because you

1685
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 2: don't want to be caught empty handed. But I don't

1686
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 2: I think they might have somebody there that they'll be

1687
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 2: happy with.

1688
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely, They're gonna be happy with whoever they get. But

1689
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 1: bring and Bean has always been one to see the

1690
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:03,719
Speaker 1: shiny thing on the shelf and just pay a little

1691
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 1: extra to go get it. Just not up to number four,

1692
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: not up to number twelve or ten or eleven, but

1693
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 1: maybe to twenty three or twenty five. We might see

1694
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 1: that happen. That wouldn't surprise me, but I think that's

1695
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 1: what the most likely scenario happens. If the bills indeed

1696
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: do move, I don't think they'll move back. I think

1697
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: they may go up not more than five spots.

1698
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 2: Here's another person. Larry says, stay put and just take

1699
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 2: Xavier Legette is your pick at twenty eight, Go baby,

1700
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 2: let's go.

1701
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm all about it.

1702
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, preaching to the choir here. We'd be very happy

1703
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 2: with that guy. Hey, look, hopefully you can see something

1704
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 2: out there. If you're in the western New York area

1705
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 2: through the clouds, enjoy the eclipse. We'll see you tomorrow

1706
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 2: at one