1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Third hour of Clay and Bought kicks off right now, everybody, 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: and a lot going on just to recap a little 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: bit of what we've been discussing here. So tonight at 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: six o'clock Eastern time will be the announcement of Ron DeSantis' 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: presidential campaign on Twitter with Elon Muss and David Sachs. 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: Is going to be. 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: Moderating or just posting along with them. Who's a tech 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: guy and a Musk confidant, So we're all looking to 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: see how that goes. Trump is firing off Salvos at 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: Ron de sanct demonious. Look, I know people are gonna 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 2: subman might think I'm biased. Trump has had better nicknames 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: for people. This isn't a this isn't a meatball. Ron 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: was never going to work at all. We all knew 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: that one. But sanctimonious, I don't think it. I don't 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: think it really hits low energy. Jeb Little Marco, Crooked 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: Crooked Hill, Crooked Hillary may have won him the election. 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: I mean the nicknames, so we'll see. I mean, the 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: sanctimonious is kind of long tough to spell. An effective 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: nickname points out something that people might already have in 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: the back of their mind. I don't think of Ryn 23 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: DeSantis as really sanctimonious. 24 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: Does that matter? Like Hillary is crooked? And I don't 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: know about Jeb Bush's energy, but he definitely Like when 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: he brought the exclamation point after his name, it was like, 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 3: you're trying to wasn't you the guy? 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: Also, who's who is at the rally, Who's like, please clap? 29 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: He asked them to clap, and that was not That 30 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: was a moment you don't want to be. You want 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: to be telling people please clap for me. Uh So 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: that that was not good for him. So anyway, we're 33 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: looking at the DeSantis announcement coming up tonight. I do 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: also I want to talk about the White House's response 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: to some of what's going on here with Crene Jean 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: Pierre and you know, speaking on behalf of Biden. But 37 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 2: first up, Clay, have you seen this yet? The we've 38 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: talked about percentages. Have you seen what the total value 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,279 Speaker 2: loss so far? Now this is in stock for Anheuser 40 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 2: Busch INBEVZ since the controversy. 41 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: Do you know the number? I was gonna do it 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: I do know the number, but I bet our audience 43 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: does not know the number. 44 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: Fifteen point seven billion dollars in value lost. Fifteen point 45 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: seven billion. Now it's also crossed. Over the first week 46 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: of there's people were saying, oh the stock is you know, 47 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: stup three dollars, a stone three dollars. They were all mocking, no, no, 48 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: now this is there. They're hemorrhaging earnings based on what 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: happened here. So that's I think that's significant. I mean, 50 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: when you're talking about a fifteen billion dollar loss in 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: stock value. 52 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 3: It also Buck. Remember initial they were like, oh, everybody 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: will just drink some other product. Anheuser Busch has a 54 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: lot of products. I think a lot of people have 55 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 3: gotten smart and they're like, Okay, I won't drink Budweiser. 56 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: In other words, the bud Light negativity is now infecting 57 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 3: other ab brands because I think the people who cared 58 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 3: about this, that people would just like, oh, whatever, it's 59 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: not going to have an impact. It's having so much 60 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 3: of an impact. Buck, there's now a report that there 61 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: isn't enough Cores Light and Miller Light available potentially for 62 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: Memorial Day weekend in some markets. And I'm getting pictures 63 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: sent to me all the time. Walmart and a lot 64 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: of other mass retailers are basically giving away bud Light 65 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: right now because remember there's expiration dates on when this 66 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: product can be consumed, and so it's not only that 67 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: bud Light is tanking, it's that bud Light's competitors are 68 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: being lifted just by not having made a super woke 69 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: advertising decision. 70 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: It's remarkable to see how short sighted it was. I 71 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: also think, what is the chance that anybody if cores 72 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: Light versus Miller Lite. I would want to know what 73 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 2: percentage of beer drinkers could tell the difference between those 74 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: two beers as well. I know we get we get 75 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: pillaried for this, both of us. We get pillaried. 76 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: If people now are mad at you over this, I 77 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: will continue to hammer it home. If you have a 78 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: hot dog and you are sitting watching a ballgame, Uh, 79 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: there's no way you can tell the difference in a 80 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: plastic cup whether you're drinking bud Light, Miller Lite, or 81 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: course Light. That is why I think this boycott is 82 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: so effective, because if bud Light tasted so much different 83 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: than everybody else, I think it would be harder for 84 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: people to change their buying patterns. It doesn't. It's marketing. 85 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: It's with a lot of beers. 86 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: That's why they spend so much money on the bikinis 87 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: and beaches and guys, you know, guys with beer guts 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: who were like, hey, we with all the bikini babes 89 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: you know in the eighties. Uh, that's it's all. It's 90 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: all in the marketing. So anyway, we're continuing to look 91 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: at that closely. But I wanted to let the White 92 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: House way in on a controversy here from early during 93 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: the week. 94 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: We told you that. 95 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: Senior figures within the NAACP said that there was a 96 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: or talked about the travel advisory they had put into 97 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: place for Florida. That Florida, the state of is an unsafe, unwelcoming, 98 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: dangerous place, a terrorist state, I think is what somebody 99 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: said about it this week on the left for minorities 100 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: and for members of the lgbt QIA plus community, well, 101 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: Creine Jean Pierre was asked about this. 102 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: Let's let everyone. 103 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: Hear what this White House says about a state that 104 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: they know they're going to lose in twenty twenty four, 105 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: so they have no problem just trashing Florida all the time, 106 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: it seems play three. 107 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: We've been outspoken about the impact of misguided policies advanced 108 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: by Florida lawmakers. Republicans and Florida have attacked diversity, they've 109 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: attacked inclusion efforts, they've limited the teaching of black history, 110 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 4: and they've launched attacks on the LGBT, youth, immigrants, educators, 111 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 4: and women's reproductive freedom. That's what you have seen from 112 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 4: lawmakers in Florida. So I'll let NAACP, I'll let LULAC 113 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: speak to their specific specifics of their travel advisories. But 114 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 4: this administration is going to as we have for the 115 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: past two years, continue to speak out against discriminatory policies 116 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: push by state leaders across the country. 117 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: Clay, you know there's a tactic in propaganda, fire hose 118 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: of falsehood, they will call it, where you just spray 119 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: so many lies, so many misdirections that you figure you 120 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: can overwhelm people's ability to discern the truth from the 121 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: bs and what you're here, and there is fire hose 122 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: false of falsehood. 123 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 124 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: The amount of just all the phrases do what limiting 125 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: the teaching of black history? 126 00:06:55,000 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: What how? It's all Whyes, it's all lies. I mean 127 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: everything that she said in that answer is a lie. Everything, 128 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: And I think this is so important. It's one thing 129 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: to disagree on what the tax code should be, right, 130 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: we can agree or do Hey, I think that the 131 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: corporate tax rate should be twenty four percent, Well, I 132 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: think it should be fourteen percent. I think we should 133 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: have this tax on dividends. I think the capital gains 134 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: R eight needs. But like all those things, I would 135 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: acknowledge we can have a legitimate debate on right. You 136 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: and your neighbor might have a different opinion on how 137 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: capital gain should be treated. That's a rational conversation as 138 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: long as your neighbor's not arguing for like eighty percent 139 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: capital gains rates or some which some lunatics would fuck. 140 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: Everything that she said is an unmitigated lie, all of it, 141 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: and everything that the NAACP said, it's a lie. Right. 142 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: Black people are not in danger in Florida. Gay people 143 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: are not in danger in Florida. Buck, You know where 144 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: I went for Christmas break? Key West. I can guarantee 145 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: you if you have ever been to key West, Florida, 146 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: it might be the gay capital of America. People in 147 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: Key West. Ron DeSantis is the governor of Florida, all 148 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: the gay lesbian universe. Buck, Do you think in Key 149 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: West they're like, we better get on a boat and 150 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: go to Cuba. Right now, we're in danger of being 151 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: exterminated in Florida because of our gayness. Of course, not 152 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 3: where you live now in Miami. Monstrous gay population, one 153 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: of the biggest gay populations per capita in the entire country. 154 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: You're in Miami. Do you think gay people feel threatened 155 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: right now to walk around the streets. This is such 156 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: a lie. It's all lie. The book Bands isn't true, 157 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: the idea that anybody is in danger. In fact, crime 158 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: is way down in Florida. You're actually safer in Florida 159 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 3: now than most parts of America, certainly in big cities. 160 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: And if you're lying like this, why why are these 161 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 3: lies necessary? Because they're terrified. I think of DeSantis because 162 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: he won by twenty points in Florida scoreboard. This is 163 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: a scoreboard kind of election, right, and that's why they 164 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: have to lie to attack him. 165 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, just for all of the frustration that a lot 166 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 2: of Republicans felt, and we were front of the line 167 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two with what the polls seem to 168 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: indicate and what the reality ended up being. The only 169 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: place we saw a dramatic overperformance, over performance relative to 170 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 2: favorable polls for a Republican was in Florida, where we 171 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: were talking about maybe a six or a seven point 172 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: win was a twenty point win. A twenty point win 173 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: in Florida, you know, and look at people can say 174 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: whatever they want about you know, who they like or 175 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: who they support everything else. That's all fine, but the 176 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: numbers don't lie. That was a massive victory that I think. 177 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: I think the Democrats recognize that there's a there's a 178 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: template here as well for how Republicans can do elections 179 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: and how they can dial it in in different states. 180 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: If you if you had Florida level elections in I 181 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: mean in the level I mean trustworthiness, you know, systems 182 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: in place, understanding the rules and leveraging them for the 183 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: GOP side, Pennsylvania, Georgia, these states start to look a 184 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: lot better for the GOP. 185 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: Couple of facts on that Florida situation, uh and Karine 186 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: Jean Pierre said, women are in danger. You know, Ron 187 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: de Santis one single women in Florida. I mean, I 188 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 3: just want all of you out there to think about that. 189 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: Because we heard so much about women moving against the 190 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: Republican Party, Ron de Santis won a majority of single 191 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: women in the state of Florida. Second part here, DeSantis 192 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: won Florida percentage wise by more than Gavin Newsom won 193 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: in California. That stat blows people's minds. Go look at 194 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: the returns. The Republican candidate for governor in California got 195 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: more support against Gavin Newsom than the Democrat candidate for 196 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 3: governor did against Ron DeSantis. We know California is a 197 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: far left state, yet in California, Gavin Newsom was not 198 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: able to win in that state by as much as 199 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 3: DeSantis won in Florida. If if what Karine, Jean Pierre 200 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: and everybody else is saying were true, the ultimate end 201 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 3: of the argument case to me, Buck is why have 202 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 3: millions of people moved to Florida since Ronda Santis became governor? 203 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: If you were actually in danger, would you move to Florida. No, 204 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: it's because that's a lie, and it's a really bad lie. 205 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: And that's what I hate to see Trump echoing what 206 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton and Karine Jean Pierre and Joe Biden are saying. 207 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 3: I think it's a really ineffective attack against DeSantis, and frankly, 208 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: it seems desperate to me. 209 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: I also think it's just to take this out of 210 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: the realm of because I think for some folks, they're 211 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 2: here and they hear a lot of Look, the governor 212 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: Flora is about to announce today, and so there's going 213 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: to be focus on this. And Florida has as a state, 214 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: especially in the covid Era and afterwards become a place 215 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: where I mean, look, think of most of the as 216 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: we all know, Rush lived, Rush lived in Florida for decades, 217 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 2: and now you have Floridi, you have more conservative media commentators, 218 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: radio hosts, et cetera in Florida and really any other state. 219 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: And there's been a real movement toward it. But what 220 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: I think is interesting for the Democrats is what's the 221 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: blue state that's getting all of the people that want 222 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: to go there? 223 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 5: Right? 224 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 3: Great question. There's a lot of blue states out there, 225 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 3: and that as geographic locations and cultural centers and historically 226 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: are amazing. What are the blue states? 227 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: What we see is, in fact, even in a place 228 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: like New York City, they're saying, please stop sending so 229 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: many migrants here. We can't handle all the migrants. Okay, well, 230 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: what's the Blue state that is so welcoming that's bringing 231 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: in so many people right now who want to move 232 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 2: internally from other places in the United States. They don't 233 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: have an exemplar, they don't have a Hey, this is 234 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: Blue state governance working so well. We can't even We 235 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: have to turn people away practically because we don't have 236 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: enough housing for them, because everyone wants to live here. 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I think Buck, you agree with it 274 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 3: that if I were a Republican candidate right now running 275 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: for president, whether I'm Ron DeSantis, who's announcing tonight, Tim Scott, 276 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: Nicky Haley, Vivic Ramaswami, all of them, I would come 277 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: out and say I will pardon Donald Trump from all 278 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: federal charges if I'm elected president. That's what I would say. 279 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: Some of you have reacted to this. VIP listener Frank 280 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: says if any Republican candidate stated they would pardon Trump, 281 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: it would play right into the Democrats' hands. There would 282 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: be adds saying they're puppets of Trump by guaranteeing his pardon. Also, 283 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: VIP listener Todd says, I wouldn't declare to pardon Trump 284 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: until after you get the nomination. That would be a 285 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: nice card to have to get Trump's endorsement should Trump lose, 286 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,479 Speaker 3: trade a pardon for all of his support and his supporters. 287 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: I disagree with both. I don't know how you would respond. 288 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: These are valid points, I mean, smart takes. I think 289 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: you have to stand on principle, and the principle should 290 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: be we are not going to charge someone with a 291 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: crime because they are political opposition. We've never done it 292 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: before in the history of our republic, and it's just 293 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: flat out wrong. And I understand that you might get 294 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 3: attacked for it, but I think standing on principle actually 295 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: plays well with independent voters and the people who think 296 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: that Trump is Hitler. They're not going to vote for 297 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: you anyway. So I don't buy into the fact that 298 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: you would lose any support at all. I actually think 299 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: you would strengthen it by standing on principle. 300 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: Yes, Because so I think that even among people who 301 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: are I think that there is this this little tranche 302 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: in the middle politically of people for whom Trump is 303 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 2: not their guy. But they recognize that this witch hunt 304 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: stuff is completely insane. Yes, they recognize this isn't about 305 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: relitigating twenty twenty in the election. This is about now 306 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: they're truly persecuting him. The left is persecuting Trump like 307 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: a bunch of maniacs, And I think people see that 308 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: for what it is. 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Stuff going? 342 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 5: Hey, you guys, thank you so much for having me. 343 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 5: It's great to be back with you. Your audience was 344 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 5: so kind to me in my election, so I want 345 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 5: to say thank you to everyone listening for their support 346 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 5: of my congressional race. Unfortunately did not work out, but 347 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 5: MAGA Inc. Is going great. I'm proud to be the spokeswoman. 348 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 5: We are the super pack that is supporting President Trump's 349 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 5: re election campaign for twenty twenty four and it's looking good. 350 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 5: We're definitely dominating in the polls, but things are heating up. 351 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 5: Of course, we're expecting Governor DeSantis hopping in the race 352 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 5: any minute, making an announcement tonight. So looking forward to 353 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 5: a tough fight and then taking on a tougher fight 354 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 5: to Joe Biden and the Democrats and turning this dying 355 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 5: country around, that's for sure. 356 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: So speaking of tough fights, we can actually I want 357 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: to come back to and Clay's got some some thoughts 358 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: on the politics side of it as well as on 359 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: what we're going to get into here. 360 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: For a second. 361 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: Have you seen the latest with the with the women 362 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: in sports stuff and the transgender individuals in sports? I 363 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: mean some A girl just lost down the state championship 364 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: in California. She couldn't go because I think she was 365 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: fourth place. She should have been third place because a 366 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: transgender individual was running. What what is what is it 367 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: going to take you think for us to reach critical 368 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: mass where this is going to stop? And and also 369 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 2: is President Trump planning to stop this in a meaningful 370 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 2: way if he becomes president again? 371 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, First of all, this is an issue that really 372 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 5: infuriates me, like literally makes my blood boil every time 373 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 5: I see it, hear it, talk about it, talk to 374 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 5: a fellow female athlete who have suffered from this, and 375 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 5: it really is absolutely insane and most rational, sane Americans, 376 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 5: I'm sure the majority that majority of your listeners don't 377 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 5: agree with this stuff, even Democrats to talk to them. 378 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 5: They say, I don't agree with men competing in women's force. 379 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 5: It's lunacy. It is it's dictated by the far left, 380 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 5: but we've seen it seep into every institution in this 381 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 5: country that is going woke and really virtue signaling to 382 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 5: these people. So one, we all need to do our 383 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 5: part to continue to speak up against both Corporate America. 384 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 5: We've seen that recently with the bud Light protests and 385 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 5: their sales continue to tank, but also in our own 386 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 5: personal lives and making sure our friends colleagues, even if 387 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 5: they're not political people understand this is happening in the 388 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 5: modern day. Democrat Party has made this part of their 389 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 5: party platform. Is it's not anti trans it is anti 390 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 5: women policies that the Biden administration and Democrats at the 391 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 5: state and local level and every state in this country 392 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 5: are trying to push and President Trump has pushed forth 393 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 5: in one of his Agenda forty seven policy proposals. He's 394 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 5: unveiled more than one hundred and forty new tangible policy 395 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 5: proposals for his administration over the next four years, and 396 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 5: one of them is in signing an executive order to 397 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 5: ensure that no taxpayer funded college or university receive federal 398 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 5: funds if they allow men to compete in women's sports, 399 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 5: if they allow men in women's locker rooms. And when 400 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 5: you threaten the dollar signs, as we've seen with bud Light, 401 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 5: things do tend to change. And so, as President Trump 402 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 5: said himself, money talks, and it's time to beat the 403 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 5: radical left at their own game. 404 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: Caroline, you're in my hometown in Nashville. How are you 405 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: liking it so far? 406 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 5: I gotta tell you, I am loving it so my 407 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 5: first time here in Nashville. I'm here for work, so 408 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 5: I haven't been able to have too much fun, but 409 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 5: I can certainly see why this is a very fun town. 410 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 5: I will be back for no work and a lot 411 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 5: more fun. But I am really enjoying Nashville. I've met 412 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 5: a lot of great people. It's hard to believe this 413 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 5: is a liberal city, Clay that votes for Democrats. I 414 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 5: was looking up some of this and past elections while 415 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 5: I've been here. I've met so many great conservatives while 416 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 5: i've been here. Maybe I'm used to liberal elitists to 417 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 5: New England cities like Boston, where I'm from up in 418 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 5: New England. But I'm having a great time. 419 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: Well, people out and about in Nashville by and large 420 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 3: do not live in Nashville, and it is I think, 421 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 3: a great draw for people of all walks of life, 422 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 3: and certainly the state of Tennessee is so welcome because 423 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: I know you've never been here before. We're talked about 424 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: Target as well. You mentioned bud Light. You're I think, 425 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 3: like twenty six years old something like that, super young, 426 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 3: like we said, nearly elected to Congress from New Hampshire. 427 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: I think you'll be there at some point in the future. 428 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: Just a prediction, But would you have ever believed that 429 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 3: there would be bathing suits being sold for women that 430 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 3: allow the penis to be tucked and hidden? Like I 431 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: see this stuff at Target, and I think to myself, 432 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 3: how in the world did we get here? You're young, 433 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 3: you're twenty six. I bet you're out, you know, shopping 434 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 3: all the time. You probably go to Target a lot, 435 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 3: because I know lots of women your age do. When 436 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 3: you see something like this. How crazy is it? Just 437 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 3: from a purely is this the real world we're living 438 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 3: in perspective? 439 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. That's exactly what I thought. I saw 440 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,719 Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago. I was in Target and 441 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 5: I saw the UH for LGBTQ plus Pride Month, all 442 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 5: the alpha that soup. They're celebrating it, and you see 443 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 5: these things that are for children. Right, So that's where 444 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 5: a line needs to be. John, enough is enough, and 445 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 5: it is really disgusting and disturbing. But something that I 446 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 5: guess does it's fearful to me is I am definitely 447 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 5: the ideological minority amongst my generation. No doubt. Gen Z 448 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 5: is overwhelmingly leftist in liberal and they think this stuff 449 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 5: is okay. Like even some of my I consider them 450 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 5: friends or acquaintances. I've sent them some of this target 451 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 5: stuff or the bud Light stuff, and some people say, well, 452 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 5: who cares, right, Like, let's just let them do that. 453 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 5: But they don't see the bigger picture, which we as 454 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 5: political people, I think see, which is that this is 455 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 5: the deterioration of America from within. This is pitting people 456 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 5: up against one another based on race, now sexuality, now gender. 457 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 5: This is ignoring biological reality and truth. And this is 458 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 5: a national security concern right because our adversaries, China, Russia, Iran, 459 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 5: they are loving this. They are absolutely loving the fact 460 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 5: that we are stripping masculinity out of our society. And 461 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 5: weakening it from within. But most Americans, I don't know 462 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 5: if they see it, but my generation certainly doesn't see 463 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 5: it that way. That's why I take great pride in 464 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 5: speaking truth and conservative values. I do a lot of 465 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 5: work on my own personal social media to get this 466 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 5: message out, like there's a bigger picture here than just 467 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 5: target selling these deeply disturbing and in my view, disgusting clothes. 468 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 5: We need to be speaking that truth to this power. 469 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: Speaking of Caroline Lovitt, Caroline, you know, do you think 470 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: that the Dodgers may face We talked about them at 471 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 2: the top of the show. The Dodgers may face a 472 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: little bit of backlash year given the lgbt Q IA 473 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 2: plus Pride Festival. What's going to have the Sisters of 474 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 2: Perpetual Indulgence. We're all guys dressed as women, dressed as nuns. 475 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: Do you think that there's going to be someone who 476 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: are we going to rally or people say, oh, I 477 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 2: like my baseball too much? 478 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,479 Speaker 5: Right? You know, it's different than bud light because are 479 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 5: people going to boycott their hometown team? Are people going 480 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 5: to boycott the MLB? There's no other options, right, There's 481 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 5: not a lot of competition When it comes to a 482 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 5: Major league sports, you have the MLB and that's about it, right, 483 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 5: unless you're going to go to your hometown Triple A game, 484 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 5: which I have not done that since I was a 485 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 5: little kid, so I'm probably not gonna do that Boston 486 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 5: Red Sox Fenway Park. It's hard to say no to 487 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 5: some of these things that are become so ingrained in 488 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 5: our culture and in our lives. But this is where 489 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 5: we as conservatives especially really do have to buckle down 490 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 5: and speak truth to that and boycott these organizations because 491 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 5: if we don't, they're just going to keep doing it. 492 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 5: And you know, as we've seen with bud Light, money 493 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 5: does talk and their sales are plummeting. Can we do 494 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 5: the same for the LA Dodgers Only if we really 495 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 5: buckle down and all band together as conservative we have 496 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 5: the power to do that. That's the beauty of the 497 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 5: free market. But I do think it's going to be 498 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 5: more difficult, Clay, because there's less competition in this industry 499 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 5: of sports than people love sports so much. I love 500 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 5: sports very much. I am rooting hard for our Boston 501 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 5: Celtics tomorrow night to make a comeback. And if the 502 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 5: Celtics did this, it would be tough not to tune 503 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 5: into them, right, like my hometown team and watch. But 504 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 5: again it goes back to that greater perspective. What is 505 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 5: really happening to America? These people want to divide us, 506 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 5: and we have to stand up and say no, you 507 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 5: can't do that. 508 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: I just learned great the Celtics my Finals clad and 509 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 3: that's a great point, Buck, and I hadn't even thought 510 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: about it until Caroline came on. We said that Bud 511 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 3: Light Miller like cores like don't taste very different. 512 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 5: Right. 513 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 3: If you're a Dodgers fan, it's a lot different than 514 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 3: being an Angels fan or being a fan of another team, 515 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 3: which makes this more challenging. I hadn't thought about that 516 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 3: point in particular. Caroline, have a good time in Nashville. 517 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 3: We appreciate you coming on and look forward to talking 518 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 3: in the future when you're in Congress. 519 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 5: Thank you guys so much. Take care. 520 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 2: You know, if your cell phone plan is with AT 521 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: and T, Verizon or T Mobile, you're spending too much 522 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: money on cell phone service. You don't have to do that. 523 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: You can save a boatload of money and still get 524 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 2: great nationwide five G service by switching to Puretalk. 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Four Americans by Americans. 544 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: Subscribe to CNB twenty four to seven and did never 545 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: miss a minute of Clay and Buck while getting behind 546 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: the scene access to special content for members only. 547 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Closing up 548 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 3: the Wednesday edition of the program, VIP listener Michael says, 549 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: just to let you know, I can tell the difference 550 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 3: between the taste of the three beers. Obviously, you don't 551 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 3: know your beers. We were at an Army Navy football 552 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: game and my brother in law went out for the beers. 553 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 3: He knew my son and I wanted bud Light. When 554 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: he came back and gave us our beers in the 555 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 3: plastic cups, both my son and I told him it's 556 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 3: not bud Light. He admitted it was Miller Lite because 557 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: the bud Light line to purchase was two long. He 558 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: didn't think we'd know the difference. We know our beers. Look, 559 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: I'll just say this, first of all, I'm doubting you. 560 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: I'm just doubting you because you said that it wasn't 561 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: bud Light. But I think if you had a blind 562 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: taste test, you wouldn't be able to tell by and large, 563 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 3: and you might have suspected that your brother in law 564 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 3: was not going to get you the beer that you wanted. 565 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 3: In the back of your mind. I will say this, 566 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 3: we need to have a light beer taste off at 567 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: some point in the future. Buck, maybe in the summer. 568 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 3: We will allow some of you, who think you are 569 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: the most stalwart beer drinking snobs on the planet to 570 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: be able to try to tell the difference. I think 571 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: in our taste test, Buck, that bud Light, Miller Lite, 572 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 3: and Coors Light would not be able to tell the difference. 573 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 3: I know this after you've had like two or three beers, 574 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: you definitely can't tell the difference. 575 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 5: Right. 576 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: So I could say this that people who are high 577 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: level wine drinkers. I mean that as in people that 578 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: you think of themselves as having a very sophisticated palette. 579 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: There are people who can taste of wine and they know, 580 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: you know, the year, the vintage of it. There are 581 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: people that say, the tiny percentage of people this is 582 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 2: what I was going to say, Yeah, even among the 583 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: people who think of themselves as very sophisticated palette wine drinkers, 584 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: it's a very very small percentage that actually could tell 585 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: a difference. So, look, is vip listener Michael that for beer? 586 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: You know, is he in that that gifted palette category? 587 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 3: It is possible, Is it probable? That is a different conversation? Buck, 588 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 3: How many wineries have you been to and they'll like 589 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 3: bring out the different carrofs. I think they call it 590 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: right yes of wine, and they'll be like, what you'll 591 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: notice about this one is there's a subtle hint of 592 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: flavorful berry and oaken hue. Because and then you know, 593 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: like in your head, you'll be like, oh, that sounds 594 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 3: really nice, that sounds really fantastic. And then what do 595 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 3: I do, my knucklehead? Almost immediately buck, I forget which 596 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 3: one that's supposed to be right, And once I've had 597 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: like three or four glasses of wine, I can barely 598 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 3: tell anything. I will say when we were in Italy, 599 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 3: we went to a winery and I loved everything that 600 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 3: I drank at that winery because they sell the experience. 601 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: Oh look at this beautiful vineyard out in front of you. 602 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: These are hand plucked grapes, and then we take them 603 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 3: and we do all this stuff. But after like two 604 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 3: or three drinks, it's really just the experience. I'm gonna 605 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 3: call out almost all of you. I don't think you 606 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 3: can tell the difference between wine beer, all of it. 607 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: I think it's all a sham. I went to a 608 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: cheese tasting once in New York City that was just cheese. 609 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: Well, you have like little you can have little crap, 610 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: but it's lots of different kinds of cheese. 611 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 3: Yes, that's really weird. It was delicious, sir. I will 612 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 3: have you know. 613 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: That you could pick up the hints of elderberry and 614 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: and cinnamon in the I don't. 615 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: Know, man, I just got to eat a lot of cheese. 616 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 3: Why ask did you go with a girl? Yeah? Of course, Okay, 617 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: you didn't go to taste the cheese. You went with 618 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: the girl. You as a sing I would be so 619 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 3: suspicious of you if you were like when you were single, 620 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 3: if you were like, like, what's you guys going on 621 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 3: this weekend and you were like, you know, I've got 622 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: this cheese tasting, It's like, who are you going with? 623 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: I just I just a big cheese guy. I'm just 624 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: gonna go solo. I'm treating myself. The world is going on. 625 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I have to admit, like I'm one of 626 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 3: those guys. 627 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 2: I have to I can't keep it in the house 628 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: because I do like the fattier and more indulgent the cheese. 629 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 2: The more I love cheese, and I'm trying not to 630 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: eat it because you know, dad, bod, I mean, I 631 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: will eat a wedge of bree like a slice of 632 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: pizza if left to my own devices, like, I'll just 633 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: take that whole triangle and just go for it. 634 00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,239 Speaker 1: You know. 635 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 3: So Fox Sports when we would watch college football games 636 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 3: or NFL games, they bring in catered meals. Food is amazing, 637 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 3: And they would bring in all these cheeses on a tray. 638 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 3: And that's one of those things. I will admit. It's 639 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 3: almost impossible to stop eating cheese, like on a tray 640 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 3: with different flavors. It's a little bit like stopping eating Dorito's, 641 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: Like it's almost impossible once you start eating in Dourdo's. 642 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 3: I had my experience to stop, but you know what, 643 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 3: I was very anti cheese after this. You know what 644 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 3: they sometimes I've only had migraines like once or twice 645 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 3: in my life after I just ate that huge cheese tray. 646 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 3: I'm not kidding about this. On my flight back from 647 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 3: LA to Nashville the next day, Buck, I got the 648 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 3: worst migraine. I thought I was gonna die. I went 649 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 3: and looked up all of the data like what brings 650 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 3: on migraines Cheese. They think if you eat a ton 651 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 3: of cheese. I don't know if it's true, but I 652 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 3: eat a ton of cheese. That day, I had the 653 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 3: worst migraine in my life. And I've sworn off a 654 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 3: lot of cheese ever since, because I don't want to 655 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 3: have that feeling again. 656 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: Especially you know, for our Milwaukee and Wisconsin audience, and 657 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 2: my god, I'm just gonna. 658 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 3: Say, I do not co sign Clay cheese, cheese and. 659 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: You know, throwing Clay throwing Cheddar under the bus for 660 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 2: his headache. Maybe you just need a little more water, Clay. 661 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of reasons you can get 662 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: a headache. This is crazy, tok. Migraine. It wasn't just 663 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: a headache. It was I thought I was going to die. 664 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: I don't usually get the headaches. I've never had a 665 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 2: migraine before. I'm putting it all on the cheese plate. 666 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: I think I ate too much cheese that day because 667 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 3: they brought it in for free and it was delectable 668 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 3: and it was delicious. 669 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: But I had to teach myself what you what is 670 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 2: the food you were most likely to overeat? If you're 671 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 2: going to overeat something, what's the thing you'll put too 672 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 2: much away of? 673 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 3: Oh? I don't the chips and salsa. I don't think 674 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 3: I've ever been like I've had too much chips in salta. 675 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 3: I think I could kill myself. 676 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: I told people that you never want to actually think 677 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 2: about guacamole and what you've had. Like people think of 678 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 2: guacamole as like a palate cleanser. Yeah, that tub of guac. 679 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: If you knock that thing back, you know, you might 680 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 2: as well eat a pizza, like the whole pizza. It's 681 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 2: not it's good fat, but it's a high calid. We're hungry, 682 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 2: as you can tell here on the show right now, So. 683 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 3: Just got chips and salsa. I would go in and 684 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 3: remember I was the one I brought this to the masses. 685 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: Pancakes don't actually have that many calories. You didn't believe it, 686 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 3: Like I could eat pancakes forever, and I somehow have 687 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 3: convinced myself that it's not that bad for you. So 688 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 3: that is that is on my horizon. I will die 689 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 3: of chips and salta and pancakes. Clay and I are 690 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 3: gonna go have a snack respectively. I'm gonna have some 691 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: cheese and easy to go, have some dry pancakes with 692 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 3: no syrup, like some kind of barbarian