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Speaker 1: four day workweek, right yep, So talk about that.
Speaker 2: What I realized is that we have a big problem
Speaker 2: in the typical workplace, which is that most of corporate America,
Speaker 2: at least what I've seen, is that everyone is perpetually exhausted,
Speaker 2: and so they're working five days a week. They're in
Speaker 2: a bunch of monotonous meetings of doing work. They're not
Speaker 2: even sure as important. They have to catch up on
Speaker 2: work on the weekends while they take care of their families.
Speaker 2: And you know, no one can ever catch up.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 2: Forty work week is tied in with a few concepts,
Speaker 2: but the underpinning is that I've tried to figure out
Speaker 2: in my companies is how to eliminate what I call
Speaker 2: work theater. And this is a phrase that most of
Speaker 2: the things I talked about I've used from others. This
Speaker 2: is a phrase that I coined work theater. Most of
Speaker 2: the work that people do doesn't matter. I'd say ninety
Speaker 2: percent is work theater, meaning it's work that just looks
Speaker 2: good but doesn't actually accomplish anything.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: And so people working so much, they're so exhausted, and
Speaker 2: they're getting nothing done for the company because they're consumed
Speaker 2: with red tape and bureaucracy. And so what I found
Speaker 2: is by shortening the work week and say no, you
Speaker 2: don't have five days to get everything done. You've got
Speaker 2: four days to get everything done. You can't schedule meetings
Speaker 2: Friday through Sunday. You need to expect people are going
Speaker 2: to be off these four days. You're going to be
Speaker 2: present focused. This I took from Twitter is not mine.
Speaker 2: It's called work like a lion, not like a cow.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I want my team to come in and work like
Speaker 2: lions for four days as much as they can, and
Speaker 2: then I want them to go relax, be with their family,
Speaker 2: be with their friends, enjoy life, heal so that they
Speaker 2: can come and work like lions. I think as human beings,
Speaker 2: we're supposed to go hunt and then we're supposed to
Speaker 2: go relax. We spend too much time in this middle ground.
Speaker 2: So to me, I found much more productivity when we
Speaker 2: have these intense spurts of hunting and then where every
Speaker 2: people have their own lives.
Speaker 3: So all your employees work for four days, yes and no.
Speaker 3: H We try to adhere to it with love. With both.
Speaker 2: It's been experiments, so both has it rolled out, but
Speaker 2: both his later stage could maybe afford to do it
Speaker 2: a little bit more love. We're trying to do it,
Speaker 2: but we still end up working a lot of Friday,
Speaker 2: So I can't say fully that we're doing it with
Speaker 2: love right now, but we're trying.
Speaker 3: We're being mindful of it. And you champion remote work, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all my companies are one hundred percent remote. I
Speaker 2: never want to go back to an office again, and
Speaker 2: that's just the personal choice that I made.
Speaker 3: And other hubs.
Speaker 2: So some folks, there's a cluster in San Francisco, or
Speaker 2: a cluster in New York or cluster in LA and
Speaker 2: they meet up. They may have shared workspaces. So there's
Speaker 2: certain clusters that like to come together into my various
Speaker 2: companies and work a prism. Another one of my companies
Speaker 2: has a bona fide office, but they have a pretty
Speaker 2: kind of hardcore sales culture and it fits them, so
Speaker 2: you know, I do. One of my companies does have
Speaker 2: a bona fide office, but it's not something that I'm
Speaker 2: that I'm married to at all, and I typically prefer remote.
Speaker 3: So you go, both has eight hundred, please.
Speaker 2: No, both has gone down by quite a bit, and
Speaker 2: we've just realized that with our narrow focus on going
Speaker 2: after the world's largest customers, we didn't need as many
Speaker 2: people and many headcounts. So we actually completely removed our
Speaker 2: focus on SMB just small, small and medium sized businesses
Speaker 2: to focus on big accounts. So we brought the company.
Speaker 2: Now it's below two hundred. How many you d love
Speaker 2: about fifteen.
Speaker 1: Right, And so you have that, but you also have
Speaker 1: the nonprofit work, yes, and I know that's very important
Speaker 1: to you talk about that.
Speaker 2: I believe that spiritually we're supposed to give at least
Speaker 2: ten percent, if not twenty percent, of what you make back.
Speaker 3: This is my fundamental belief.
Speaker 2: I believe if you don't do that, you're hurting yourself
Speaker 2: because you're gonna have you're creating karma. And so selfishly,
Speaker 2: I want to stay healthy, I want to stay safe,
Speaker 2: I want.
Speaker 3: My businesses to be successful.
Speaker 2: So so I try to give back as much as
Speaker 2: I can because I know spiritually you have to. Uh
Speaker 2: it's not a lot of people say, oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: wait until later in life, that's a proven thing to do.
Speaker 3: I don't believe in that at all.
Speaker 2: I think you have to always be giving back to
Speaker 2: the community. It has to become a muscle that becomes
Speaker 2: ingrained in you. So I have a few different impactulated initiatives.
Speaker 2: My most prominent nonprofit is called the Movement. So dance
Speaker 2: has completely changed my life. It was a healthy outlet
Speaker 2: for me that got me through many tough times in
Speaker 2: a very healthy way. And so I realized that dancing
Speaker 2: is one of the most scalable ways to spread happiness
Speaker 2: and mental health because all you.
Speaker 3: Need is a floor and a speaker.
Speaker 2: So if you're going to try to solve a mental
Speaker 2: health crisis at a homeless shelter, refugee camp. It's very difficult.
Speaker 2: You have to hire if you're gonna have to hire
Speaker 2: a psychiatrists, it's one on one or one hundreds of
Speaker 2: dollars per hour. Other methodologies are not very scalable or
Speaker 2: very expensive.
Speaker 3: Dance, you know, floor in a speaker. And so we started.
Speaker 2: We did some work with some homeless shelter, some disabled centers,
Speaker 2: after school programs, and then we realize that we can
Speaker 2: go do refugee camps where there's one hundreds of thousands
Speaker 2: of people who are suffering. So we've picked one of
Speaker 2: the largest in Africa called Biddy Biddy and two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand refugees in Uganda. Then the massive suicide
Speaker 2: crisis and a massive mental health crisis. I think it's
Speaker 2: something like thirty or forty percent of their residents is
Speaker 2: they are depressed. It's like a ten percent annual suicide, right,
Speaker 2: don't quote me on that, but I mean it's those
Speaker 2: proportions and a lot of the folks that have nothing
Speaker 2: to live for, and so the goal is to give
Speaker 2: them something to live for. That is a force that
Speaker 2: we could afford. So we partnered with another nonprofit who
Speaker 2: created this stage is like performance stage, and we do
Speaker 2: the programming, dance programming, and we have people coming say
Speaker 2: this is what they now live for. This has changed
Speaker 2: their life. They didn't take their life because of this.
Speaker 2: Emma is flourishing and we did almost nothing. We created
Speaker 2: some curriculum, we trained some people on the ground. We're
Speaker 2: not fishing for them. We don't hire people to go
Speaker 2: out and teach me. There's thousands of incredible dancers already
Speaker 2: as refugees. So we just put a little program together
Speaker 2: and they've taken the ball on the run with it.
Speaker 2: Now we go back every six months check in. He'll
Speaker 2: give him advice on how to manage the program. So
Speaker 2: now I want to scale this to shelter's homeless refugee schools.
Speaker 2: This is my biggest passion for charity.
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