1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load. Michael 2 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: vari show is on the air. 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: The question is, foul Helm, we are you lying then? 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: Are you lying now? Or are you not? In fact 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: to chronic and habitual liar. 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 3: When you hear the term fake news, you probably think 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: about how it's used often today by President Trump. But 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: it's actually an old term used by the Soviet Union 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: as a reference to disinformation campaigns that the Soviets and 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: now the Russians have long used to destabilize the West. 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 4: US officials have warned that Russian interference remains an active 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 4: threat for the twenty twenty presidential elections. 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 5: To see what to do to me, The word. 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 6: Shenn is scum, MSDNS scum. The New York Times is 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 6: scumb You can go to get. 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 7: Were suspicious? Suspicious? 17 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 8: Rudy Giuliani already had open contact with a person that 18 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 8: the US has called an agent for the Kremlin. Now 19 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 8: we are being told by two people who've been briefed 20 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 8: on what the FBI is doing that they're looking into 21 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 8: whether these unverified emails about Hunter Biden that were published 22 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 8: earlier this week by The New York Post about his 23 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 8: business dealings in Ukraine and China are part of this 24 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 8: bigger Russian disinformation effort in the twenty twenty election. 25 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 6: CNN is scum, msdnngs scum. 26 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: The New York Times is scum. 27 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 4: You can't go. 28 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 7: With suspicious. 29 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 6: We can. 30 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 9: President Trump will be at Mount Rushmore, where he'll be 31 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 9: standing in front of a monument of two slave owners 32 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 9: and on land wrestled away from Native Americans. 33 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 10: We do have now some of the sound. As I 34 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 10: told you, we're not in the audience. We're not carrying 35 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 10: his remarks a live because, frankly, he says a lot 36 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 10: of things that are not true and sometimes potentially dangerous. 37 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 6: CNN is scum, MSDNNG is scum. The New York Times 38 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 6: is scum. 39 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 11: Start your tape right now, because I'm about to tell 40 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 11: you the truth and f you if you can't handle 41 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 11: the truth. 42 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 2: This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically is the best Biden 43 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: ever looking at the images and looking at what was 44 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: actually damaged. 45 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 9: The Defense Intelligence Agency has assessed that the core components 46 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 9: of Around's nuclear program are largely intact and that arounds 47 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 9: nuclear program has essentially only been set back five months. 48 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: A g LP one pill has been approved that is 49 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: what we loosely call the shot. It started as o zimpic, 50 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: a a drug for to control diabetes. It was spectacularly 51 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: successful and as it turned out, it helped people lose weight, 52 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: a lot of weight a lot of people. The marketplace 53 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: then rushed to put a product on the market. The 54 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: original round of the ozimpic class of drugs was to 55 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: deal with the effects and causes of diabetes. The next 56 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: round we go VI being one of them, zeb Bound 57 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: being one of them, Bunjaro. Those drugs were not strictly 58 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: for diabetics. They were simply a weight loss shot. There's 59 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: a lot of criticism over this because I think a 60 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: lot of people operate under the opinion, which is sort 61 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: of a Calvinist mindset, whether they are a Christian, evangelical 62 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: or not, that things should be difficult, worthy things should 63 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: be difficult, and that someone taking a shortcut is to 64 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: be frowned upon. There is also understandably concern caution over 65 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: what will be the long term effects, which we simply 66 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: don't know. I will tell you that I have watched 67 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: a lot of people lose weight who some of whom 68 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: I know about their struggle to do so. Some of 69 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: whom just simply see like it seems like a totally 70 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: different person, and you can tell they're happy about it, 71 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 2: especially women, but not exclusively women, and you can see 72 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: the dramatic changes. It's so dramatic and so widespread, particularly 73 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: among a certain socioeconomic group, that you don't hear reference 74 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: to being fat any longer. The whole discussion of fat 75 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: shaming has gone away. The drug is expensive, to be sure, 76 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 2: but now there are knockoffs from that, but most people 77 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: recognize it works and it's pretty easy. It's hard to 78 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: lose weight because that involves controlling what we eat and 79 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: burning more calories. A calorie deficit is a hard thing 80 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: to accomplish for a lot of people. So the pill 81 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: makes this even easier and also makes it a lot cheaper. 82 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: The estimate is that will go V we go V 83 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: we go V we'll gov will GOV has made I 84 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: think the number I read this one was five was 85 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: four billion dollars. They expect this new pill. I think 86 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: it's eli Lilly to generate thirty billion dollars by twenty thirty. 87 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: And there are a lot of things that go into 88 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: whether or not that is true. I mean, if it 89 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: turns out there's a major side effect or all sorts 90 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 2: of other things. But if you were simply ask is 91 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: this something that a lot of people could do and 92 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: would do, Yes, on a massive scale, a fat pill, 93 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: you better believe it. Yeah, are people are going to 94 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: do that. It has also had the the side effect 95 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: of reducing a lot of people's alcohol cravings. And so 96 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: that's been one of those things that cannot be advertised 97 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: because it can't be a promise yet, but anecdotally a 98 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: lot of people report that that being the case. We'll 99 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: talk about that coming up. But I want to talk 100 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: about Iran and the war and our economy because I 101 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: think we're getting to the point. Well, the President addressed 102 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: the nation last night. He did that for a reason. 103 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: The numbers are bad, The public's opinion is bad. The 104 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: Trump base, some of the Trump base has turned against 105 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: his policies. They've been very vocal about that in a 106 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: way that we've not seen on an issue before. There 107 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: was not a break over illegal immigration. There is a 108 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: real break over the efforts in Iran, especially when you 109 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: send in troops. But even before that happened to be 110 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: the case. So, yes, glad to talk about Ramond. We 111 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: have a job or one more day. 112 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 4: We have a job, Ramda, King of Ding and this 113 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 4: other guy, Michael Barry. 114 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 2: The Senate has passed the bill to fund the Department 115 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: of Homeland Security without Ice being part of it. That 116 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: is a victory for the Democrats, which is amazing how 117 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: the Democrats, who ostensibly have fewer than fifty of the Senators, 118 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: can win bills that are so contentious because we have 119 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: Republicans who are voting with Democrats. These are the same 120 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: Republicans that John Cornyn keeps company with, the Mitch McConnell's, 121 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: the Lisa Murkowski's, the Susan Collins is that Tom Tillis's, 122 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: for that matter, the Lindsey Grahams. Let's talk about iron 123 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: for a moment. The only good things so far of 124 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: the activity in Iran is the Texas economy as it 125 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: relates to oil and gas gas. And there are some 126 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: oil and gas folks that are making a lot of 127 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: money right now. But oil and gas folks are an 128 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: interesting breed because of the volatility of the price of 129 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: oil going back to the early eighties. In this town, 130 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people don't feel comfortable gloating. They're not 131 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: confident that things will last and we were down to 132 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: what fifty five dollars a gallon I'm in a barrel, 133 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: and they popped up to about one hundred. So you 134 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: just don't know how sustainable that is. You talk to 135 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: people in the industry staff. My nephew is a PhD 136 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: geologist for Occidental, and you know, it is touch and go. 137 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: It is the volatility, the concerns, the vulnerability to job 138 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: security is great. There are people who are, you know, 139 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: being laid off from major oil companies on Monday, and 140 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: on Thursday they're hired back because the price spiked and 141 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: activity increases. It's a commodity. It is to overuse the 142 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: word today, it is a volatile commodity in terms of 143 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: price and there's just a lot of uncertainty there. But 144 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: that's not the point of Iran. So I'll try to 145 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: do this in one segment. First, I'll tell you what 146 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 2: I hear from people the over fifty, in particularly over 147 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: sixty emails I get are people who say Iran has 148 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: been a borough under our saddle for as long as 149 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: I can remember. Bomb them into the stone ages. I 150 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: get a lot of that, and it is almost never 151 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 2: the recent activity of Iran. They're talking about it goes 152 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: back to seventy nine, It goes back to Iraq number one, 153 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: it goes back to Iraq number two, two thousand and three, 154 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: that the surge. A lot of American families were affected 155 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: by Irani involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan for that matter, 156 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 2: but particularly Iraq. The bombings of Americans and attacks on 157 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: Americans in various places since then, the saber rattling. There 158 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: are a lot of things for older Americans for which 159 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: they say it's time let's put Iran in their place 160 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 2: because they have been a problem for so long. That 161 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: is almost exclusively limited to older Americans. Younger Americans don't 162 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: remember those things, and those things don't bother them. Younger 163 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: Americans see Iran as Israel's war. They see the White 164 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: House as being directed by Nettan, Yahoo and Israeli influence. 165 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: You can believe that's true or not. It doesn't matter. 166 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm telling you that is the perception amongst a lot 167 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: of young people. There is a definite split of opinion 168 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: amongst younger let's just limit it to Trump supporters, or 169 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: or let's limit it to Republicans generally. But it's probably 170 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: easier to say Trump supporters. There is a massive split 171 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: with regard to support for what's go for our involvement 172 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: in Iran. You've got Mark Levin again, He's older and 173 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: represents an older crowd. But Mark Levin, we should be there. 174 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: This is the right thing to do. If you love America, 175 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: you love Israel, you hate Iran. There is that movement 176 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 2: and there there are a number of folks who are 177 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: of that opinion. You have been Shapiro who has been 178 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: in my opinion, probably pushed into a corner marginal loss 179 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: of his own making or not of very pro Iran, 180 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: I mean very very pro Israel, very very very pro Israel, 181 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: and to some extent, and well not to some extent. 182 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: And I think Ted Kruz has been sucked into that 183 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: so much so that a few weeks ago he said 184 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 2: that saying Christ the King is when you see someone 185 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: say Christ the King online, that is a slur at Jews. 186 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: I think I think he's losing some support over this. 187 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: I'm certain he's losing some support because I read my emails. 188 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: Then you have Lindsey Graham, who I don't think his 189 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: is as much pro Israel, although that is true. I 190 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: think Lindsey Graham just fantasizes over his fetish more war more, 191 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: war more war. You know things are bad in the 192 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: polls when Lindsey Graham is now publicly claiming that he 193 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: is urging the President to pull back. Lindsey Graham does 194 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: not pull back, not before he's finished. For him to 195 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: be publicly saying this, not only he doesn't care what 196 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: happens to Republicans in November, it means that Lindsey Graham 197 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: has looked at polls in South Carolina and he's about 198 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: to get John cornynd. It's close enough that he is 199 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: scared because he's up for reelection and in his primary, 200 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: this issue is unpopular no matter how much you love 201 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. That does not change what I'm reading in 202 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: incoming email, what I see online, and that is Republicans 203 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: are split. They are not united behind his efforts in Iran, 204 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: and when you add troops on the ground, you lose. 205 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: I think you get above fifty percent of Republicans alone, 206 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: people who wish him well, who don't want us there. Ironically, 207 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: the crowd that is eager for us to be there 208 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: are Republicans who are not Trump supporters, and that is 209 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: the Bush mindset. The Chinese the Bushes, the Romney's, the 210 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: well going back to the Lindsey Grahams, that is the 211 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: older country club Republican who have more of a George W. 212 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: Bush mindset, and particularly at George HW. Bush mindset. And 213 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: that's that's fascinating because that's not Trump's base, and that's 214 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: not a group that has supported him generally. 215 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 11: I have a lot to say on this issue with 216 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 11: more come up Southern pride. Southern Pride to Michael Berry Show. 217 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: At fifty five. I have a number of friends who, 218 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: like me, have military age kiddos, and that's people a 219 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: few years younger than me. I guess this is more 220 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: about my kid's age than my age, because a number 221 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: of my kid's classmates parents or a few years younger 222 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: than me. But when you have nineteen and twenty year olds, 223 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: parents are understandably concerned. I don't think a draft is 224 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: in the cards, would have been, or will be in 225 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: the cards anytime soon. That is political suicide. And everyone 226 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: knows that. Literally everyone knows that. Now, that doesn't mean 227 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: everyone wouldn't do it. I laboriously read emails because you 228 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: get a lot of different perspectives from across the country, 229 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: from different socioeconomic backgrounds, educational levels, experience levels, experience, life experiences, 230 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: even perspectives on the political spectrum, and I can tell 231 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: you it's three to one against Iran. Going to Iran, 232 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: there is and would have been always an excitement a 233 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 2: patriot to we're bombing someone. And I don't think anybody 234 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: actually likes Iran. The Irani diaspora who came to this country, 235 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 2: most of whom seventy nine or managed to get out 236 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: and get here in the early eighties, do not like 237 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: the current regime. And there are a fair number of 238 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: well placed Irani Americans, whether they be in medicine, they're 239 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: still politically active, but influential in finance, influential in government, 240 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 2: and those folks would like to see a regime change. 241 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: Then there is what we have talked about for a 242 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: number of years, and this is a bush era mindset, 243 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: an antipathy toward regime change. We have bungled regime change 244 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: in the past. There is no doubt about that. We 245 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: did not leave Iraq better than we found it Removing 246 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: Saddam Hussein. You can have an argument over whether that 247 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 2: was a good or bad thing for Iraq. Only forget 248 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: the neighbors most people would argue probably a good thing. 249 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: Although Iraq was more stable under Saddam Hussein, wiping out 250 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: the entirety of the power structure the bath Party, which 251 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: while a minority group within the country, had a strong 252 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 2: grasp on control of the country, has turned out to 253 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: be a disaster for the country. And there are people 254 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: who will naively say, but they weren't good to their people. 255 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: They it wasn't a democracy, because we are so in 256 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: love with this word. I'm shocked how many people use 257 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: the word democracy to refer to a political system outside 258 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: the United States without any consideration for what it means, 259 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: what it should mean, and what the effects would be. 260 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: But wiping out the entirety of the Iraqi power structure 261 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: left a power vacuum. You didn't have anyone to make decisions. 262 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: And you know, I'll go back to Sri Lanka a 263 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: few years ago when they drive the president out of 264 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: the palace and the people overrun the palace and you 265 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: create an overnight power vacuum. So there is a naive 266 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: American citizen re belief that if you just get somebody 267 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: out who you don't like, maybe he's not good to 268 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 2: his people, then you just get him out of there. 269 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 2: You'll solve the problem. It's like a cancer. Now the 270 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 2: body politic will be healthy. That is not how that works. 271 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: It's never been how that works, and it's not how 272 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: it works now, and it's not how it's going to 273 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: work in the future, because somebody is still going to 274 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 2: be in control of the mission enery of war, the military, 275 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: the economy, the assets, the trade relations. Somebody is still 276 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 2: going to have to do that. And it's not the 277 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: case that you simply ensure that things will go well. 278 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: And typically the force that's going to come to power 279 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: as a result is not going to be a force 280 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 2: that is going to be that's going to improve the 281 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: lives of the people of that country, because you really 282 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: have three issues at play. The way I look at 283 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: every country and that is how the government, the structure 284 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: that the decision making affects the people of that country, 285 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: how it affects the region and the rest of the world, 286 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 2: and how it affects American interests. And I actually look 287 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: at them in the reverse order. I care most about 288 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: American interests. I know there are words for people like that, 289 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: but yes, I am all of the above. Make America 290 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: great again. America First, I mean it. That's what I say. 291 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 2: Americans first, America First. I understand not everyone is of 292 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: that opinion, and that people of that opinion are disfavored. Fine, 293 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: I'm good. That's what I am. That's who I am. 294 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 2: So now you're left with a situation that regime change 295 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,239 Speaker 2: is something that we have spoken against. That is the 296 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: MAGA movement was in large part a reaction not to Democrats, 297 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: but to Republicans and to the Bush Republican agenda, the 298 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: extended War. We all raw raw for our troops because 299 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: they're our kids and our neighbors kids, and our nephews 300 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: and are members of our community. But that doesn't mean 301 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: we think the wars are a good idea. I don't 302 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 2: know anyone beating their chest over the success we had 303 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: in Iraq, do you. I don't know anyone beating their 304 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 2: chest over the success we had in Afghanistan, do you. 305 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: You can blame Biden fairly for the loss of our 306 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 2: abandonment or gifting of all of the American arsenal that 307 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 2: was left there that we were told they couldn't use. 308 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: The three days later they're having a parade with it. 309 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 2: The inmates were in charge of the asylum and we 310 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: handed them the keys. We lost a lot of good 311 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: people in those two wars. For what is Iraq a 312 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: better friend than it was before? To us? Is Iraq 313 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: more stable? There are the lives of the Iraqi people better. 314 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 2: Questions answer that yourself is Afghanistan better? Did it in 315 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 2: any way improve America's standing safety security? We're told that 316 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 2: we're safer because of this. And I'm going to tell 317 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: you what's going to happen if this war does not end, 318 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: and end very soon, You're going to start seeing suicide 319 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: bombs in this country. And when that happens, this thing 320 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: is going to go real sour. The only thing keeping 321 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: the patchwork together today is a general kind of feeling, 322 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: although it's closer to a malaise of older Americans, that 323 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: Iran's a bad country. And that's true, and that Iran 324 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: is a source of problems in the world, and that's true. 325 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: But there is general sense that maybe we do ourselves 326 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: some favors by knocking Iran down a peg. There is 327 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: that belief, but I think that belief is dwarfed by 328 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: a very vocal belief. And you can leave the Democrats 329 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 2: out of this. This is largely a Republican conversation. The 330 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: Democrats are not weighing in, and by the way, this 331 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: is a recipe for disaster in November. Republican votes are split. 332 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: We're not going to unite the Republicans at this rate. 333 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: But we haven't talked about the argument against involvement in Iran, 334 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: and it's being made from people on our side and 335 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: very effectively. The Michael Barry Show show. So I told 336 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: you yesterday that there was this whole battle going on 337 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: on the campuses and online that used a whole new vocabulary, 338 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: that that's what these things do. And I didn't know 339 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: what what cis and heteronormative. I mean, I could figure 340 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: that one out, but cis gender and and so people 341 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: would identify themselves before making their statement. Is you know, 342 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: as a cis gender, this, this, this, and this, Well 343 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: I didn't know. I didn't know what that meant. I 344 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: kind of based that's a simple word. But what they 345 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 2: were doing through all of this was this is the 346 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: pronoun war elevated exponentially. So now they were saying, apparently 347 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: through all their their terms and titles at which is fluid, 348 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: it could change it anytime, that they were born a man. 349 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: But now consider themselves a woman who likes women who 350 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 2: like men who are not sure if they're a man 351 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: or a cat. I mean, like they before they told 352 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: you their opinion of something, you'd need to know all 353 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: of these things about them. And it was all using 354 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 2: terms that have a lot of meaning to them. But 355 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 2: if you don't know those terms, and you wouldn't know 356 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: those terms unless you are obsessively involved in that conversation 357 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: all day. If you walk in on a conversation about cricket, 358 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 2: you do. You don't know the language, You don't know 359 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: what people are talking about, or fencing or football or 360 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 2: baseball or basketball or tennis or anything else. And so 361 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: there are these the raging wars going on online and 362 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 2: people just battling it out and they think they're real 363 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 2: warriors like gamers, and you stumble into it and they're 364 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: accusing you of this and that, and you don't know 365 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: what in the hell's going on. Well, I will tell 366 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: you there is something very similar with regard to America's 367 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: involvement in Iran. And it is bigger than America's involvement 368 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: in Iran. And it's a conversation I have not had 369 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: much of. I have watched it from a distance, I 370 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: have no interest in entering it. There are people who 371 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: will suck you into it and then you can't get 372 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: out of it. But I'll do my best to try 373 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: to explain what it is, and that is there is 374 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: a very strong split of opinion over those who believe 375 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: that Israel is America's most important ally, that it is 376 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: the American responsibility to support Israel, that Israel keeps the 377 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 2: Middle East and much of the world safe. Well, that's okay. 378 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: Let's say that's generally, and that Israel should be protected 379 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 2: at all costs, and protected means whatever Israel says it means. 380 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 2: It might mean involving yourself in wars, and there are 381 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: some strong forces out there for that. As I mentioned, 382 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: that's to some degree and in various versions that's been Shapiro, 383 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: Mark Levin, and plenty of other folks, and I have 384 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: plenty of friends in that circle and friends who spend 385 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: their whole day on that issue. Then there is a 386 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 2: sort of the counter to that, which would be represented 387 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: to varying degrees by Candice Owen's, Tucker Carlson, and many others, 388 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: that believes that Israel's interest is not always our interest, 389 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: that Israel is a nefarious player in American politics, that 390 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: Israel is dishonest and dishonorable. You saw that come to 391 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: a head over the issue of Gaza. So all of 392 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: a sudden, it went from people saying that Israel, that 393 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: Israel's interests are not always our interests, and that we 394 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: should make a Maria first decisions, not Israel first decisions, 395 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: to Israel's committing suicide, it's committing genocide in Gaza. What 396 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: made that conversation different and interesting was that for the 397 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: first time, it was not being led by Palestinian Americans, 398 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: it was not being led by Middle Easterners, it was 399 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 2: not being led by democrats. It was being led If 400 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: you think of this as a globe, it comes all 401 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: the way around. The far left and far right were 402 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: strangely aligned, and that's a rare thing to happen. As 403 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson became more and more vocal on the issue, 404 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: he had a more mainstream following than a lot of 405 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: other folks. And then he had a fellow named Nick 406 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: quintess On. And again, this is sort of the gaming community, 407 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: or the CISC community, or the bronis or the hoarders 408 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: or the survivalists. If you don't live in that world. 409 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: You have no idea the players, and half of them 410 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: hate each other, and this one used to be in 411 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: this one camp, and they've got their own language, and 412 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: they have followings. These people have podcasts, they have YouTube 413 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: pages that get millions of views, and you don't know 414 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: what in the hell's going on. And I would argue, 415 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: for most people, nor should you. It's it's it's inside baseball. 416 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: If you don't, if you didn't feeld a team for 417 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: March Madness, you don't need to know the bracketology, methodology 418 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: and the numbers because it doesn't affect you. It affects 419 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: them a lot. But it's very important for the people 420 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 2: who live in this world that everyone else be involved 421 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: and that they have Trump's ear. And the challenge for 422 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: Trump is to balance out people that he likes on 423 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: both sides, you know, from JD. Vance to Mark Levin 424 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: to everything in between, and so that that becomes something 425 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 2: that most Americans are not aware of, that is bubbling 426 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: under the surface. And then Tucker Carlson did something and 427 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: you can think it was a good idea, it was 428 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: a terrible idea. I would argue, I don't agree with 429 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: Tucker on everything that is for certain. But I would 430 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: argue that Tucker has a genuine, genuine interest in the 431 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:12,239 Speaker 2: truth that he will interview most everybody and anyone, and 432 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: long has. 433 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 7: So. 434 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: He interviewed a man named Nick Foints. I'd heard the name, 435 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: I had no idea what it was. And that is 436 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: this whole group known as the Groupers, and these are 437 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: people who, for the average American, I thought you people 438 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: were Republicans. Oh, it's way more complicated than that. It's 439 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: an internacine war of people who might all traditionally vote Republican, 440 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: but they are absolutely at each other's throats. And you've 441 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: got the financial backing of billionaires on both sides of 442 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: this issue, and some very nasty things being said about 443 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: all of them. It always comes back to sex, who's gay, 444 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: who's having this done, who's doing this. There's a lot 445 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: of gay allegation in all of this, and it all 446 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: gets very dramatic, and the Venn diagram over with Seapac 447 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: turning point USA the Trump campaign. There are players from 448 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: these communities who insinuate themselves into more mainstream, broad based organizations, 449 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: so that this whole thing is constantly brewing under the surface, 450 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: and it will cost us in November. There is no 451 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: doubt in my mind it will in much the same 452 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: way that the LGBTQ hurt the Democrats when they became 453 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 2: very outspoken and demanding, in much the same way that 454 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter hurt the Democrats. But that's where we are. 455 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: And I think that a lot of people Tucker is 456 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: an influential force. There is an attempt to marginalize him, 457 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: but he is an influential force to a lot of 458 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: people who don't know any of that language or those personalities. 459 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: And I think that that's going to be a challenge 460 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: in November is to get all of these people back 461 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: on the same page. Trump's great ability in twenty twenty 462 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: four and twenty sixteen particularly were to get people of 463 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 2: all sorts of backgrounds all on one page, to get 464 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: the Robert F. Kennedy's, to get the tool see Gabbards, 465 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: to get people who might otherwise be Democrats or moderates 466 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: or whatever else, all aligned. And without him leading this charge, 467 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: there's no one who has that moral authority