WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Forbidden Planet

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick, and

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<v Speaker 3>today we are going to be talking about the nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>fifty six American science fiction adventure Forbidden Planet, starring Walter

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<v Speaker 3>Pigeon and Francis and Leslie Nielsen. Yes, that Leslie Nielsen.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, before he went full irony mode with movies

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<v Speaker 3>like Airplane and The Naked Gun, he was a stern,

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<v Speaker 3>square jawed ham from outer space. And this movie makes

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<v Speaker 3>the best and the worst use of him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this movie is full of male actors, just like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I had such a good time rewatching Forbidden Planet. This

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't the first time I'd seen it, but the first

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<v Speaker 3>time in a while. And it's one of those classic

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<v Speaker 3>films that both holds up so well and doesn't and

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<v Speaker 3>and both ways are good. Like it is at once gorgeous,

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<v Speaker 3>thoughtful and clever and also dated, corny and numb skullish,

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<v Speaker 3>and like both aspects make for a very good time.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that, at least in my viewing of

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<v Speaker 2>the film, it never felt completely offensive, and it never was,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was never boring. I guess it is a

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<v Speaker 2>film that has a well earned place in sci fi

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<v Speaker 2>cinema legend, and if it's easy to go into Forbidden

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<v Speaker 2>Planet expecting it to like wholly and completely live up

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<v Speaker 2>to that legend. But this is a film that is

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<v Speaker 2>clearly trying to do multiple things at the same time

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<v Speaker 2>in essence to justify its budget. I imagine, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it needs to be a film with a brilliant sci

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<v Speaker 2>fi vision. It also needs to have laughs, It needs

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<v Speaker 2>to have some you know, some winky sex appeal. It

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<v Speaker 2>needs to deliver on all of these things, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately it does and does so in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>is not completely shameful decades later. So I think I

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<v Speaker 2>have to tip my hat to it in that regard.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I had completely forgotten about the sixty gallons

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<v Speaker 3>of whiskey scene. That really adds a whole other dimension

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<v Speaker 3>to the Forbidden Planet experience. You did not think this

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<v Speaker 3>movie would be so much about men stranded in space

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<v Speaker 3>who are horny and want booze.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a huge element of mad men in space,

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<v Speaker 2>with a bunch of Don Draper esque male characters essentially

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<v Speaker 2>hitting on relentlessly, hitting on the one female in their vicinity.

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<v Speaker 2>Only instead of a like a secretary and in like

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<v Speaker 2>a New York office space, it is the daughter of

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<v Speaker 2>a brilliant scientist on a distant world.

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<v Speaker 3>The one true extraterrestrial we get to meet in the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Though she is a human, but she's from another planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Joe, you fished up one of the posters for

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<v Speaker 2>Forbidden Planet, and oh it's so beautiful. It of course

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<v Speaker 2>features a non human entity carrying an unconscious, beautiful woman.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't recall. Does Robbie the Robot ever carry Ann

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<v Speaker 2>Francis in this picture?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember if he does. He does carry the

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Doc Austro, remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder that that should have been on the poster.

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<v Speaker 3>Close enough, Yeah, it should have been like a uniformed

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<v Speaker 3>guy who just got his brains apped by an alien computer.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, he's carrying a blonde lady here. And she

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't look that much like Anne Francis, Like her hair's

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<v Speaker 3>really long, But you know, it's close enough. This was

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<v Speaker 3>the format at the time they tore Johnson to Robbie

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<v Speaker 3>the Robot.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. Well, Yeah, this film is gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun to talk about I believe this

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<v Speaker 2>is the third time we've covered a movie that's referenced

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<v Speaker 2>in the lyrics of science fiction double feature from the

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<v Speaker 2>Rocky Horror Picture Show. Because we've done Doctor X, and

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<v Speaker 2>we've done Tarantula, and now we've done Forbidden Planet. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>in the chorus we get to hear we are reminded

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<v Speaker 2>several times that Anne Francis stars in Forbidden Planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, because planet runs with Janet. Yeah, yeah, it's perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition to the film score, I will I won't

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<v Speaker 2>say that I have the film score to Forbidden Planet

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<v Speaker 2>stuck in my head. It's not really an earworming score

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<v Speaker 2>in the traditional sense, but I've certainly had science fiction

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<v Speaker 2>double feature in my head all week ever since I

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<v Speaker 2>watched Forbidden Planet.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, one thing that I think really sets Forbidden

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<v Speaker 3>Planet apart from most of the science fiction of the

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen fifties is that it is an extreme example of

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<v Speaker 3>our show category of a rub the fur movie. It

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<v Speaker 3>is an overwhelming experience of pleasing visual and sonic textures.

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<v Speaker 3>Like even if the movie had no dialogue or story

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<v Speaker 3>at all, I think it would be a wonderful experience

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<v Speaker 3>just to sit and absorb the sets and the painted backdrops,

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<v Speaker 3>the special effects, the costumes and the props. I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about so many things that are just you know, caramel

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<v Speaker 3>chocolate to the eyes, like you know, the green sky

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<v Speaker 3>and the mountains that we see on Altair four, the

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<v Speaker 3>mid century future chic decor of the Morbius House with

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<v Speaker 3>that pink mod furniture and all the loosight beams and everything,

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<v Speaker 3>the forced perspective shots of the Krell technology where you've

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<v Speaker 3>got these bridges going over the bottomless pits of the

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<v Speaker 3>power generators and whatever those big white globes are that

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<v Speaker 3>are like riding belts up and down the walls into

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<v Speaker 3>the darkness. You've got that great alien garden around the

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<v Speaker 3>Morbius swimming pool. You've got the design of Robbie the robot,

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<v Speaker 3>which is just I don't know, we should come back

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<v Speaker 3>to that, because that alone is unbelievable, those great diamond

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<v Speaker 3>shaped archways. And I love, of course, when we finally

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<v Speaker 3>see the hand animated blood red outline of the beast

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<v Speaker 3>in the movie, the id beast that hunts the astronauts,

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<v Speaker 3>and also not just the visual but the sonic textures

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<v Speaker 3>as well. As you were just alluding to, it might

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<v Speaker 3>not be earworms. But the sounds of the movie are

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<v Speaker 3>so interesting. It's just a corn ucopia of fascinating ambient sound.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I was thinking that while we are today

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<v Speaker 3>quite used to thinking of sci fi movies as rubbed

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<v Speaker 3>the fur events, full of pleasing images and sounds, just

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<v Speaker 3>great textures, having watched a lot of sci fi movies

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<v Speaker 3>from the nineteen fifties for the show, I would argue

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<v Speaker 3>that this was not the norm at the time. A

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<v Speaker 3>ton of sci fi movies from the fifties are not

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<v Speaker 3>full of pleasing visual and sonic textures. They are low

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<v Speaker 3>budget affairs without much exciting to show you other than

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<v Speaker 3>maybe like a monster costume. Even a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>better ones are usually good because of the premise or

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<v Speaker 3>they're about ideas in some interesting way, and they consist

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<v Speaker 3>primarily of dudes standing around talking in a sparsely decorated set.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree. I was just looking back at the

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<v Speaker 2>films we've covered from the nineteen fifties, and some of

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<v Speaker 2>them are, you know, definitely lower budget affairs. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're generally and that's part of it. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>making do with less, they're leaning more into the ideas,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're not getting into that rub defer territory that

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<v Speaker 2>we get with Forbidden Planet, which again is just like

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like you can even single out well one

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<v Speaker 2>or two visual elements or sonic elements as well, Like

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<v Speaker 2>they're just so many. It's like it's just a feast

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<v Speaker 2>for the eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>Every scene is full of shots that are just like

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<v Speaker 3>a poster you'd want to hang on your wall. And

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<v Speaker 3>one reason, of course, is an obvious thing. Forbidden Planet

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<v Speaker 3>stands out because it was shot in color. Specifically, the

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<v Speaker 3>color process was Eastman color, and almost all of the

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<v Speaker 3>other sci fi movies from the fifties that I can

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<v Speaker 3>think of were in black and white. And this was funny, actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to find a list of exceptions. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, okay, what were the other color sci fi

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<v Speaker 3>movies from the fifties? And when I did a Google search,

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<v Speaker 3>the AI summary at the top of the search results

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<v Speaker 3>kept telling me, insisting that movies like The Thing from

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<v Speaker 3>Another World The Incredible Shrinking Man, both of which we

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<v Speaker 3>watched for the show, were in color. No, they're not,

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<v Speaker 3>it said The Day the Earth Stood Still was in color.

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<v Speaker 3>The original one is not. You know, I've seen these

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<v Speaker 3>movies they're in black and white. But there are some examples.

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<v Speaker 3>I can think of a few that I've seen. One

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<v Speaker 3>is Invaders from Mars from nineteen fifty three, directed by

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<v Speaker 3>William Cameron Menzies. Though this was shot in something called

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<v Speaker 3>super Cinicolor, which is a two color process that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>quite end up looking like full color. It has an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting color palette, but it's kind of pale and faded, faded,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of greenish gold. And then the same year there

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<v Speaker 3>was a color adaptation of H. G. Wells War of

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<v Speaker 3>the Worlds directed by Byron Haskin that was in technicolor.

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<v Speaker 3>There was an adapt there was the adaptation of Twenty

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<v Speaker 3>Thousand Leagues. Of course we talked about that just a

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<v Speaker 3>week or two ago, the one with James Mason that

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<v Speaker 3>was in nineteen fifty four. That's in color and it

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<v Speaker 3>looks great. There is, of course This Island Earth in

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<v Speaker 3>fifty five that's in color.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think This Island Earth is indeed probably

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<v Speaker 2>Forbidden Planet's closest peer. You know, it doesn't have a robot,

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<v Speaker 2>but it has a wonderful monster. It has, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of color and bizazz to it. But the

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<v Speaker 2>thing about about this Island Earth much smaller budget. Forbidden

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<v Speaker 2>Planet costs more than twice as much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So there are some other examples of great looking

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<v Speaker 3>color sci fi films from the fifties, but not many,

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<v Speaker 3>and it just was not the norm for sci fi

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<v Speaker 3>movies at the time. Frankly, a lot of these movies

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<v Speaker 3>from the fifties, even the relatively good ones, are not

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<v Speaker 3>any more visually exciting than It Conquered the World. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>what makes them good might be good writing or good acting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or maybe how well they shoot the monster costume

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<v Speaker 2>and so forth.

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<v Speaker 3>And as we were just saying, even when you consider the

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<v Speaker 3>other color pictures, I just don't think there is another

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<v Speaker 3>one that even comes close to Forbidden Planet. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>exquisite to look upon this the whole box of crayons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, nine years later you would get Planet

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<v Speaker 2>of the Vampires, which, of course is another film we've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about on the show that is set in space

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<v Speaker 2>and has brilliant use of sets and costumes. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is a this is this is the forerunner.

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<v Speaker 2>And you could probably make a very strong case that

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<v Speaker 2>a film like Planet of the Vampires wouldn't exist if

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't have Forbidden Planet getting there early and setting

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<v Speaker 2>the trend.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think Planet of the Vampires has got to

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<v Speaker 3>be at least in part inspired by the look of

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<v Speaker 3>Forbidden Planet. Okay, so we've established it's a ten course

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<v Speaker 3>dinner for the eyes. But another thing I wonder if

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<v Speaker 3>is this a good place to talk about this movie's

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<v Speaker 3>relationship to Shakespeare's The Tempest, because that's the thing. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people commenting on this over the years have

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<v Speaker 3>pointed out the plot of Forbidden Planet, and it seems

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<v Speaker 3>like a very loose adaptation of Shakespeare's The Tempest. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that was kind of interesting because I know

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard it said before that compared to most of

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<v Speaker 3>the plays of Shakespeare, The Tempest is rarely put on

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<v Speaker 3>film in anything like its original form. It's just not

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<v Speaker 3>a play that gets a straight adaptation to film very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Adaptations of The Tempest in cinema are almost always very loose.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know, I took a few different Shakespeare

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<v Speaker 2>classes in college, and we never directly covered The Tempest,

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<v Speaker 2>as I recall, so maybe in part because we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have as many adaptations to watch on video to discuss it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, this is frequently cited as an adaptation of

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<v Speaker 2>the Tempest. We have the we have a prospero character,

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<v Speaker 2>our Miranda, and I guess we have our Caliban of

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<v Speaker 2>sorts as well, our monstrous creature, not to be confused

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<v Speaker 2>with the Caliban in class for the Titans. Was he

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<v Speaker 2>called Caliban and that I can't recall, but he the

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<v Speaker 2>character in that is very much based on this element

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<v Speaker 2>of the Tempest as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think people have said have pointed out that

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<v Speaker 3>Robbie the robot is kind of aerial from the Tempest. Ah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and that Adams is the Leslie Nielsen character is sort

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<v Speaker 3>of I forget the name, a bit like one of

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<v Speaker 3>the Italian nobles that gets a lured to the island.

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<v Speaker 2>And who's cook Cook?

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<v Speaker 3>Have a don't know, don't know about cook?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we'll get back to cook. So yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>have a groundbreaking sonic and visual science fiction film here,

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<v Speaker 2>shot in color with a health very healthy by budget,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has Shakespearean elements in it's plotting. All right, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have an elevator pitch for this film?

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't get it down to one sentence, but here's

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<v Speaker 3>the setup. By the twenty third century, humankind has colonized

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<v Speaker 3>the galaxy with the help of faster than light travel,

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<v Speaker 3>but one mission, a mission to an exo plan in

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<v Speaker 3>it called Altaar four by the explorationship Bellerophon, has gone

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<v Speaker 3>silent after it arrived. Twenty years later, a United Planet's

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<v Speaker 3>starship under Commander JJ Adams is sent to the Altair

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<v Speaker 3>system to investigate the fate of the lost ship and

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<v Speaker 3>its crew. Once there, Adams and his men find that

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<v Speaker 3>the only survivor of the Bellerophon is a language scholar

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<v Speaker 3>named doctor Morbius, as well as his twenty year old

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<v Speaker 3>daughter Altara, who was born on the planet. What happened

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<v Speaker 3>to the rest of the crew? How have Morbius and

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<v Speaker 3>Altara survived all this time? And where can a guy

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<v Speaker 3>find bourbon and kissing lessons on a planet such as this?

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<v Speaker 2>All this and more will be explored. All right, Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and listen to a little trailer on you you.

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<v Speaker 4>Imagine yourself as one of the crew of this faster

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<v Speaker 4>than light spaceship of the future, sharing their curiosity to

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<v Speaker 4>know the unknown, their tension, their readiness for inconceivable adventures.

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<v Speaker 4>When you reach the forbidden planet, you will meet doctor

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<v Speaker 4>Morbius played by Walter Pigeon. The doctor is sole owner

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<v Speaker 4>of this fabulous world. Anne Francis is his alluring daughter, Alta,

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<v Speaker 4>who has never seen a young man till she meets

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<v Speaker 4>Commander Adams played by talented Leslie Nielson. You will meet

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<v Speaker 4>a charming character in the robot, able to produce on

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<v Speaker 4>order ten tons of lead or a slinky evening gown,

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<v Speaker 4>always at your service. You explore all the wonders of

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<v Speaker 4>a vanished civilization. You travel deep down into the heart

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<v Speaker 4>of the Forbidden Planet to discover the incredible marvels of

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<v Speaker 4>this lost, genious race. These magnificent scenes in striking Eastman

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<v Speaker 4>color stagger the imagination. Yet the wonders of planet al

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<v Speaker 4>tear four and see you a strange and evil force, unknown, irresistible.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, you may be wondering, Well, where can

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<v Speaker 2>I watch Forbidden Planet? Well, this was a major release.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been released on all formats over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>It is definitely available on Blu ray I belief from

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<v Speaker 2>Warner Home Video or something, And I'm not I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>check for this, but it's possible, I guess. Given in

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<v Speaker 2>this an MGM film, maybe MGM plus has its streaming,

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<v Speaker 2>you might check around for that. I, however, watched this

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<v Speaker 2>film on the big screen. I saw it over the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend at Atlanta's Historic Plaza Theater, presented as part of

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<v Speaker 2>the Silver Screen Spook Show series, and I have to

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<v Speaker 2>say looks terrific watching it in those old squeaky chairs there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the colors are fantastic. The sound is just

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<v Speaker 2>resonating around you and sometimes feeling like it's moving from

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<v Speaker 2>ear to ear. So I highly recommend seeing films like

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<v Speaker 2>this in the theater if you do get a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to see them. Silver Screens Spook Show. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be doing mathra versus Godzilla on May seventeenth, two

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<v Speaker 2>shows as usual, a family friendly mattinee and a late

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<v Speaker 2>night show for grown ups if you're in the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 2>area on that date.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Should we get into the connections.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Starting at the top with the director. It's Fred M. Wilcox,

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<v Speaker 2>who lived nineteen oh seven through nineteen sixty four, American

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<v Speaker 2>director who started out at MGM as an assistant to

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<v Speaker 2>King Vidor, eventually working his way up through the MGM

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<v Speaker 2>Shorts department to direct the nineteen forty three feature Lassie

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<v Speaker 2>Come Home. Which starred a fourteen year old Roddy McDowell.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he the voice of the kid yelling Lassie?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's the kid that presumably yells Lastie. So

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<v Speaker 2>I guess so okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt this one was evidently a success because it

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<v Speaker 2>had a sequel nineteen forty six is Courage of Lassie,

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<v Speaker 2>and this one had a fully grown Elizabeth Taylor in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, did it also still have Roddy McDowell. No, No,

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<v Speaker 3>Roddy McDowell.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Elizabeth Taylor only ic okay, and then Roddy McDowell.

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<v Speaker 3>He went from Lassie to laser Blast. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Another filming director of nineteen forty nine is The

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<v Speaker 2>Secret Garden, which had a twelve year old Dean Stockwall

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<v Speaker 2>in it. Huh yeah, yeah. You can look up screenshots

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<v Speaker 2>from the Secret Garden and there's a little kid Dean Stockwell.

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<v Speaker 3>Fact to check, Dean Stockwell was never twelve years old.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing. He also did nineteen fifty two Shadow in

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<v Speaker 2>the Sky with Nancy Reagan. Planet was produced by Willcox's

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<v Speaker 2>nephew in law, producer Nicholas Nefek, and he was apparently

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<v Speaker 2>going to produce another big budget sci fi film with

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<v Speaker 2>a title something like Robot Planet, and Wilcock was going

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<v Speaker 2>to direct that as well, but Neffact died in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifty eight. Wilcock directed one more film himself, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he also died in nineteen sixty four at the age

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<v Speaker 2>of fifty six. But I believe this is one of

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<v Speaker 2>those examples where the director didn't come out of science fiction,

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<v Speaker 2>and his life and career wasn't long enough afterwards to

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<v Speaker 2>return to any science fiction, So you know, it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stands out as a one off. But boy, what

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<v Speaker 2>a one off. This is easily the film he's best

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<v Speaker 2>remembered for, all right. The screenplay is by Cyril Hume,

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<v Speaker 2>who lived nineteen hundred through nineteen sixty six, American writer

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<v Speaker 2>whose first novel, The Wife of the Centaur, was a

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<v Speaker 2>big hit in nineteen twenty three and adapted into a

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<v Speaker 2>King vidor Silent film in nineteen twenty four. He wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a few more novels, but mostly transitioned into screenwriting, working

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<v Speaker 2>on several Tarzan movies in the nineteen thirties, a nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty nine adaptation of The Great Gatsby and then also

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<v Speaker 2>a nineteen fifty six film titled Ransom exclamation Point, which

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<v Speaker 2>was remade in nineteen ninety six, the Mel Gibson picture

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<v Speaker 2>that some of you might remember. But it's worth noting

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<v Speaker 2>that the nineteen fifty six Ransom was itself an adaptation

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<v Speaker 2>of a nineteen fifty four episode that aired on the

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<v Speaker 2>anthology series of The United States Steel Hour.

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<v Speaker 3>What the United States Steel Out? Oh? It was just

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<v Speaker 3>named after a sponsor. Yeah, yeah, Like what should we

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<v Speaker 3>call it?

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<v Speaker 2>Should we call it like action or thriller or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe some sort of a zone And they're like, nope,

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<v Speaker 2>the United States Steel Hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's like the Colgate Comedy Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess somewhere to deal. Hume also

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<v Speaker 2>did some westerns. His only other sci fi screenplay was

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty seven's The Invisible Boy, a sort of sequel

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<v Speaker 2>spin off to Forbidden Play, which we'll come back to.

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<v Speaker 2>Forbidden Planet is Hume's most famous work, again highly influential,

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<v Speaker 2>and is itself, at least a very loose adaptation of

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<v Speaker 2>Shakespeare's The Tempest. Now there are a couple of story

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<v Speaker 2>credits Irving Block and Alan Adler. Alan Adler lived nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen through nineteen sixty four. Also worked on a film

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<v Speaker 2>in fifty nine called The Giant Behemoth, and then Block

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<v Speaker 2>lived nineteen ten through nineteen eighty six. He was a

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<v Speaker 2>I think mostly a special effects and visual effects guy

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<v Speaker 2>who worked exclusively in genre pictures, often B movies, mostly

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<v Speaker 2>science fiction, and he sometimes contributed story ideas, this being

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<v Speaker 2>the first case of that. Other story credits include fifty

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<v Speaker 2>seven's Kronos, as well as Oh Boy, There's here's a

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<v Speaker 2>title for you, The Saga of the Viking Women and

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<v Speaker 2>their Voyage to the Waters of the Great Sea Serpent.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Does that title cover everything?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, there's more, Okay, a longer title as possible. He

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<v Speaker 2>also has story credits on Roger Corman's War of the

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<v Speaker 2>Satellites in fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are both Roger Corman movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so the Saga the Viking Women and their Voyage

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<v Speaker 2>to the Waters of the Great Sea Serpent also.

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<v Speaker 3>Corman also Corman I think in the same year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's right, they're both fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he also has story credits on The thirty

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<v Speaker 2>foot Bride of Candy Rock and Atomic Submarine, both in

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<v Speaker 2>fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen it, but I've just I have a

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<v Speaker 3>premonition that the movie Atomic Submarine is super boring.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting into the cast. Let's start at the top in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of billing with Doctor Morbius played by Walter Pigeon,

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<v Speaker 2>who lived eighteen ninety seven through nineteen eighty four. Walter Pigeon,

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<v Speaker 2>a two time Oscar nominee who had not done I

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe he'd really done a sci fi film up

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<v Speaker 2>to this point, having been mostly known for stuff like

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty one's How Green Was My Valley? After Forbidden Planet,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd go on to appear in a handful of other

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<v Speaker 2>sci fi flicks, sixty one's Voyage to the Bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>the Sea, seventy three is the Neptune Factor. Oh, and

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<v Speaker 2>then this was interesting. This is apparently a like a

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<v Speaker 2>made for TV film movie of the Week situation nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy fours Live Again, Die Again, which is like about

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<v Speaker 2>a woman who is cryogenically frozen and then is brought

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<v Speaker 2>back to life and her husband is old now and

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<v Speaker 2>played by Walter Pigeon.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, you know, I was thinking I like the

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<v Speaker 3>line that Walter Pigeon rides in this movie between hero

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<v Speaker 3>and villain for much of the film. You can't quite

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<v Speaker 3>tell how like what his intentions are. So he's that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of character who's mostly polite and helpful and seems

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<v Speaker 3>mostly forthright, but also maybe seems to be hiding something.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know how much you can trust him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like he is he going to be? Is he

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<v Speaker 2>Captain Nemo? Like that's kind of the big question that

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<v Speaker 2>had to be on a lot of people's minds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, And so I don't know, I could

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<v Speaker 3>see him, I could see him in another life of

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<v Speaker 3>playing having played a Bond villain or something like maybe

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<v Speaker 3>maybe nothing against Michael Lonsdale. He's great, but like he

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<v Speaker 3>could have been in Moonreaker.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, things have played out differently.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I also like the ambiguity regarding his character. You're never

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<v Speaker 2>really sure that he's a villain or what villainous elements

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<v Speaker 2>he might have, but you also don't completely trust him.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's easier as a modern viewer of this

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<v Speaker 2>film to assume that he's up to no good. That's

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<v Speaker 2>my kid also watched the film with me and they

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<v Speaker 2>were like, oh, yeah, yeah, I knew he was hiding something, But.

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<v Speaker 3>Did he know he was hiding something. I guess he

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<v Speaker 3>knew he was hiding something, but maybe not the thing

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<v Speaker 3>you're thinking of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, he also did some horror movies. He appeared

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<v Speaker 2>in seventy two's The Screaming Woman, and also a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of gorilla movies in the twenties and thirties. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're two separate gorilla movies and not the same gorilla movie.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, someone had to starring gorilla movies, so

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<v Speaker 2>more power to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Was he in any of the Machist Goes to Hell movies?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? Well, again, we know that Ann Francis stars

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<v Speaker 2>in Forbidden Planet, and indeed she does, playing Altara Morbius,

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<v Speaker 2>the daughter of doctor Morbius. Anne Francis lived nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 2>through twenty and eleven. She's our lone female character in

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<v Speaker 2>the film, the daughter of doctor Morbiuss, again seemingly doomed

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<v Speaker 2>to never know love or Earth, at least until the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the cast shows up to just relentlessly hit

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<v Speaker 2>on her again like she's a secretary and a Madman

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<v Speaker 2>era office. She's our Miranda character, Golden Globe winning actress

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<v Speaker 2>whose other films include nineteen fifty five's Bad Day at

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<v Speaker 2>Black Rock, and nineteen sixty eight's Funny Girl, which also

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<v Speaker 2>co starred Walter Pigeon. Her screen credits begin in the

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<v Speaker 2>late forties. I believe she appeared on Broadway as a child,

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<v Speaker 2>and she remained active, especially on TV up through two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and four, and she did two episodes of the

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<v Speaker 2>original Twilight Zone.

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<v Speaker 3>I also like Anne Francis in this role quite a

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<v Speaker 3>lot because she she does bring a kind of in

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<v Speaker 3>a way that you don't expect when you first meet

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<v Speaker 3>the character. Like, so the character, as we'll get into later,

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<v Speaker 3>I was describing her as sort of like Arnold Schwarzenegger

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<v Speaker 3>and Twins, Like she has learned all of the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all of the academic subjects, as she knows all the

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<v Speaker 3>sciences and literature and everything, but is hopelessly naive about

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<v Speaker 3>society and human interactions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, kind of a subset of like she's not a

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:30.880
<v Speaker 2>full blown doll person where she's just like a child

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 2>in in an adult's body. She knows plenty of things,

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 2>she just doesn't have like a lot of like social

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 2>real world experience because she's never been to Earth.

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:41.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she has no street smarts or savvy, so like

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 3>doesn't know what to do when somebody is like trying

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 3>to lie to her or take advantage of her. So

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 3>there's a scene where this where a creep character is

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 3>giving her kissing lessons. But she has a great kind

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.239
<v Speaker 3>of turn in that scene because he's like, he's like, oh,

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 3>let's try kissing again, and she's like, I don't get it.

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 3>There's is not very good.

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 2>That got a lot of laughs with the audience, the

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:08.920
<v Speaker 2>live audience. So there's the humor in this film. You know,

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 2>it mostly holds up sometimes. I mean it holds it

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.879
<v Speaker 2>holds up in places, and it's just kind of hammy

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and too old fashioned in other places, but in both

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 2>regards generates laughter, so still effective. But yeah, I agree.

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 2>I think she's good in the role. And of course

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 2>she's a real beauty, no denying that. But I was

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:32.719
<v Speaker 2>surprised at how skimpy the outfits get in this picture.

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh like there is. I was confused by the bathing sequence.

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:39.880
<v Speaker 2>At first it seems like she's bathing nude, and then

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 2>maybe she's wearing a garment, but maybe that's also a

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 2>garment that they wore in movies at the time to

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 2>make it seem like someone was bathing naked. I'm not sure.

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 3>It does seem to be really pushing the limits of

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 3>what like an MGM picture would have allowed in the

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:58.159
<v Speaker 3>nineteen fifties. But yeah, she's in the scene where she's swimming.

0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 3>I think she is supposed to be nude, and she's

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 3>just like you know, when she gets out of the

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.719
<v Speaker 3>pool in a brief shot. I think she's wearing a

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.639
<v Speaker 3>garment match to her skin. And then it's supposed to

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 3>just go by real quick. But maybe they weren't expecting

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 3>to have the kind of definition that people have on

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 3>screens today.

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:15.880
<v Speaker 2>It's true, like later in the picture, there's some very

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:19.679
<v Speaker 2>delicate wire work that allows Robbie the robot to carry

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:25.120
<v Speaker 2>the doctor's body and or doc's body, and it's very

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>good wire work because you can barely see it even

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 2>in like higher definition, so I'm guessing it would have

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 2>been mostly invisible at one point. All Right, it's time

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 2>to talk about Leslie Nielsen. He's our leading man here

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 2>playing Commander Adams. Lesli Nielsen lived nineteen twenty six through

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty ten, and I think many many of you out there,

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 2>myself included, for a long time anyway, when I thought

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 2>about this Canadian actor, I mostly or even exclusively thought

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 2>about his late career reinvention as a dead pan, comedic

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 2>goof all of this coming in the wake of nineteen

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 2>eighties Airplane and this era gay like that lasted the

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.360
<v Speaker 2>rest of his life and career gave us the likes

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>of TV's Police Squad, It's Naked Gun spinoff films. I

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:15.440
<v Speaker 2>believe there were three of those, and such spoofs as

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 2>mel Brooks Dracula Dead and Loving It from nineteen ninety five,

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 2>and just a host of other goofy pictures where Leslie

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Nielsen continually plays these kind of either deadpan, funny characters

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 2>or increasingly goofy characters. But they all stem from this

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 2>initial Airplane Naked Gun phase where and these were both

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 2>the work of David and Jerry Zucker.

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 3>It's impossible to know, but I almost feel I could

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 3>have predicted his career would or should take that turn,

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 3>if you were to transport me back to the fifties

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 3>and just show me his performance and Forbidden Planet, because

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 3>he's playing the role totally serious. But he is such

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 3>a natural ham He's just he's one of those guys

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 3>who the more serious and deadpan and stern. He tries

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 3>to act the funnier it gets.

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think the important thing to realize about

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 2>this late career reinvention as a comedic actor, especially with

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 2>those early examples, they work entirely on the basis that

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Nielsen was known for these straightforward, serious roles that were

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>a little bit hammy and you know, maybe lacking in

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of nuance and his roleand Forbidden Planet is

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 2>probably like the most famous example, you know, along side

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 2>some other films and a great deal of TV work.

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. We've talked on the show before about the concept

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 3>of the nineteen fifties movie the leading man as the

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 3>rectangle as sort of a character type. Leslie Nielsen in

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 3>this movie is the ultimate rectangle. Yeah, that is exactly

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 3>what he is. He is just he is just there

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 3>to sternly and straightforwardly execute the main motions of the

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 3>plot and then eventually to kiss the girl.

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think we would not be talking about him

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:12.959
<v Speaker 2>as much if he did not go on to all

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 2>these other interesting things, because it's it's not a character

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 2>that I found myself really connecting with on any level.

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Like he's just this this sort of hyper masculine ideal

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>of the.

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Fifties, but not in an interesting way, not an interesting way. Yeah. Yeah,

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't like get into that as themes like in

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 3>say The Incredible Shrinking Man or something. Instead, it's just

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 3>sort of unexamined. There are interesting characters in the movie,

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 3>like Morbius and Altara are interesting, but yeah, uh, Doc.

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I think Doc who will get to in a second,

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>like he's the character that in many ways should be

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 2>like the main point of focus for us as the

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 2>audience because he does the most amazing things.

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 3>Yes, but Adams is almos. It almost feels like he's

0:30:56.360 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 3>made boring on purpose. Yeah.

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Now, And of course this is not entirely Leslie Nielsen's fault.

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 2>And I want to point out that Nielsen did have

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I think a pretty strong villain era. He appears as

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 2>a villain in one of my favorite Night Gallery episodes

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty nine. Is a question of fear. I believe

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>he's like a former mercenary, just a real ruthless character,

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 2>and I think he ultimately did that really well, playing

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 2>as he aged out of being any kind of a

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 2>leading man character. He could play these like ruthless, cold

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 2>characters really well. He plays one in Stephen King's Creep

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Show from nineteen eighty two, in which he viciously murders

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 2>his wife and her lover, who's played by Ted Danson.

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 3>And then gets some supernatural vengeance.

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, there's some zombie action of course.

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Or vengeance visited upon him gets the vengeance.

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Other villain roles of note include nineteen seventy seven's

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Day of the Animals, in which he plays a really

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 2>nasty character, and also nineteen eighty seven's Nuts.

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna have to see some more of the Leslie

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Nielsen villain stuff. I'm interested in that.

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>And it is interesting that some of these villain roles

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 2>that we just mentioned they occurred after airplanes, so he

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 2>was really It's not like he just was like, oh,

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 2>airplanes here, I can just do comedy from here on out. Like, No,

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 2>he was sort of, you know, keeping it a little

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>varied there for a bit, you know, playing a real

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 2>dirt bag here, and then you know, hamming it up

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 2>for laughs on the other side.

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, at some point the rectangle was just cut loose.

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 3>You got some curves, got some corners.

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right. The next character we want to talk

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>about is Lieutenant doc Ostro, played by Warren Stevens, who

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 2>of nineteen nineteen through twenty twelve. This is the character

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 2>that I think is the most interesting. He's the male

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 2>character that I found myself relating to the most because

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.959
<v Speaker 2>he seemed most on mission. I think he was the

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 2>only one that was not concerned with hitting on the

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 2>strange alien woman. He's the one who actually attempts to

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 2>solve problems that are the larger problems of the plot

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>and has a tragic trajectory as opposed to the heroic

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 2>trajectory of Leslie Nielsen's character.

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, I feel like there are things said about

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 3>this character that are not fully demonstrated in any way

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 3>that I recall, and that makes me wonder if there

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 3>were more originally in the script, maybe some more interactions

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 3>with him that didn't make it to the final cut. Specifically,

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking of how it's implied that when Morbius meets

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 3>the main members of the crew that he really sort

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 3>of bonds with Ostro about like Ostro being a kind

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 3>of scholar, a man of learning, somebody who's interested in

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 3>learning scientific complexities and stuff like that, which, unless I'm

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.959
<v Speaker 3>forgetting something, I don't think we ever really see demonstrated

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 3>about the character. It's just sort of said about him.

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 2>It's worth noting that this film in many ways influenced

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Star Trek. We'll get to some examples of that with

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>from a visual standpoint in a bit. But also you

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 2>can easily look at Commander Adams Leslie Nielsen's character as

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 2>sort of being a proto Kirk, and you can kind

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:10.280
<v Speaker 2>of look at Ostro as being a proto Spock.

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 3>Kind of. Yeah, you would think Bones because the doctor Bones. Yeah,

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 3>but no, Yeah, he's a little bit more spocky. He's

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:18.720
<v Speaker 3>somewhere between Bones and Spock.

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 2>He does the sort of thing that I guess you

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:25.439
<v Speaker 2>could see Bones or Spock doing what this character ultimately does,

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 2>but especially Spock.

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And then the third guy in the main three

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 3>landing party is just like Kirk two.

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I'll get to him and well, I'll go

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 2>ahead mention him and then come back to to Stevens.

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:41.240
<v Speaker 2>But yeah. Jack Kelly plays Lieutenant Farman who live nineteen

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty seven through nineteen ninety two, American actor whose other

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 2>credits include sixty one's A Fever in the Blood and

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 2>the TV show Maverick Warren Stevens. He also did a

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 2>fair amount of TV best Remembered for his role here

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:57.439
<v Speaker 2>and Forbidden Planet. His other film credits include nineteen fifty

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 2>four is Gorilla at Large Again, You gotta have a

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Gorilla movie in there somewhere, and The Barefoot Contests I

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 2>believe from the same year, opposite Humphrey Bogart and Ava

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Gardner nineteen sixty six is Cyborg twenty eighty seven, and

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 2>he apparently has a cameo in nineteen ninety one Samurai Cup.

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 3>Wow Man Cyborg twenty eighty seven. That sounds like the

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 3>name of a movie from the eighties, not a movie

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 3>from the sixties.

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna have to look into that one more.

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Another crew member to briefly mention, we have Richard Anderson

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 2>playing Chief Quinn. He lived nineteen twenty six through twenty seventeen,

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 2>American actor who also appeared in Stanley Kubrick's nineteen fifty

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 2>seven war picture Paths of Glory. I don't remember who

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.439
<v Speaker 2>exactly he was in that. It's been a while since

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 2>I've seen that movie. But he was also a regular

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 2>cast member on TV's The Six Million Dollar Man. But

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 2>now it's time to talk about Cook Coook. What a character.

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 3>I think at some point the other day I just

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 3>texted you the word Cook. Yeah.

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 2>Cook. I was not expecting Cook. I should also add

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I had not scene Forbiden Planet before before seeing it

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 2>in the theater, and I think I was kind of

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 2>expecting more like pure high minded science fiction. So the

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Hammier elements kind of surprised me, and then Cook really

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 2>surprised me. A pure comic relief character who initially just

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 2>kind of like wanders into the scene like stirring some

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 2>biscuits or something and starts asking wise guy questions about

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 2>the plot.

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:32.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean, so they're going to another star system

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 3>on this like multi year voyage to Altara four, and

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 3>some of the crew members are just guys like Cook.

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Cook is just a total bumpkin who is looking for

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 3>whiskey on the other edge of the galaxy.

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, He's like he sees Robby the rovine. He's like, well,

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 2>what is it as a man? Is it a woman?

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 3>What?

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we we have a lot to say about Cook here,

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 2>played by Earl Holloman who lived in nineteen twenty eight

0:36:57.640 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 2>through twenty twenty four. Real Mike Nelson and looking guy

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 2>after say.

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I could see Cook was almost like a

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 3>character Mike Nelson would have played in one of the

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 3>early show skits.

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly. I could have easily imagined Mike Nelson, you know,

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 2>walking out on the set of The Sidle Lot of Love,

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 2>like stirring the pot here. Now, Holloman's pretty interesting because

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 2>he went on to appear in a number of big

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 2>films in the nineteen fifties. He was in A fifty

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 2>six Giant. He was also in The rain Maker and

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.240
<v Speaker 2>The rain Maker. His role in that earned him a

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Golden Globe Award for Best Supporting Actor, and he remained

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 2>active up until I believe two thousand, doing a lot

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 2>of TV, as well as popping up in nineteen eighty one.

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Sharky's Machine, which keeps coming up on the show in

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 2>the Connections, I've never seen it, but it is a

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 2>neo noir set in Atlanta, directed by Burt Reynolds. So

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 2>at some point I need to actually sit down and

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 2>watch Sharky's Machine.

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 3>I guess, yeah, I've never seen it either.

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:54.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't even know that it actually has

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:58.280
<v Speaker 2>a machine. I had that question pop into my head

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 2>and I was looking at the wikiped the article and

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>like the plot summary, It's like, well, is there a

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 2>machine or is there not a machine. I think the

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 2>machine is one of the supporting characters. I don't know.

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I know Sharky is Burt Reynolds. That's oh okay.

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 3>Maybe a machine is like a like a system of

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 3>people doing something like a like a crime. Crime syndicate

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 3>is a machine in some way.

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 2>And speaking of machines, this film also famously stars Robbie

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.240
<v Speaker 2>the Robot playing Robbie the Robot.

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 3>They give him billing.

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:33.399
<v Speaker 2>He has billing, and I am just ever pleased by

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 2>the fact that he has his own IMDb page. He

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 2>is treated by IMDb as an actual actor, alongside various

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 2>dogs and cats and of course living in deceased human beings.

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 2>This was his screen debut. Robbie the Robot was essentially

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 2>born in nineteen fifty five. He was born in the

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 2>MGM Props Department, with credit generally going to A. Arnold Gilepsi,

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Doug Hubbard, and Robert kin Shida. He's voiced here by

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Marvin Miller, who lived nineteen thirteen through nineteen eighty five,

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 2>with Frankie Darrow who lived nineteen seventeen through nineteen seventy six. Actually,

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:14.439
<v Speaker 2>in the suit, it is a suit. It's a big,

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 2>clunky prop. Shane Morton, the host of the Silver Screens

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Spook Show, mentioned that in the intro to the presentation

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 2>of the picture that it was apparently really loud, and

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 2>if you watch Forbidden Planet a lot, you can maybe

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 2>note that actors are maybe speaking a little louder when

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 2>they're sharing a screen time with Robbie the Robot, because

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.839
<v Speaker 2>he had all sorts of clunky of business going on

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:43.479
<v Speaker 2>in his body, and it is probably a clunky, old

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 2>fashioned design by today's standards, but it's an amazing build

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.360
<v Speaker 2>that you know, certainly resonated with sci fi fans. It

0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 2>made him icon of the genre. Is you think about

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 2>robots from the nineteen fifties and sixties, you're probably going

0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 2>to think about Robbie the Robot.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Man, flunkiness does not downgrade him at all in

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 3>my mind. I think Robbie is still to this day

0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 3>one of the best robots ever put on film. I

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 3>love so much about his design. I love the non

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 3>humanoid moving parts, so not just the arms and legs,

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 3>but things like the cycling typewriter guts inside, the clear

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 3>plastic dome of his head, and the chemical analyzer, the

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 3>male slot mouth thing in his chest, the spinning navigation

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 3>an tinny. It's just one of the best robot designs ever,

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 3>and I love every moment he's on screen. I love

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 3>the I think this is what you were just alluding to,

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 3>being very loud. I love the clacking sound that starts

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 3>as like the parts are moving inside before he starts talking.

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's a great design. I love his shape.

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 2>He has a great silhouette, instantly recognizable. I love his

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:04.359
<v Speaker 2>little centaur, a vehicle that he climbs into to roam

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 2>about on the planet's surface.

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh the buggy, Yeah.

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, Robbie the Robot. He followed this up

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 2>with the spinoff The Invisible Boy, in which a boy

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 2>named Timmy in the year nineteen fifty seven is given

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 2>a given super intelligence by a supercomputer and then he

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 2>like reassembles Robbie again. This is kind of like a

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 2>loose spin off sequel. I don't think it really necessarily

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 2>supposed to think it is a legitimate follow up to

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Forbid the Planet, But Robbie the Robot mostly appeared in

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 2>TV cameos after this. He showed up on the Twilight Zone,

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 2>The Adams Family Lost in Space opposite the Robot the

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Robot from Lost in Space is another iconic robot costume

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:49.360
<v Speaker 2>of the time period. Showed up on Colombo, Wonder Woman,

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Mork and Mindy the Love Boat, and then you know

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 2>of later appearances and things like Earth Girls Are Easy.

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 1>And.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes at IMDb he's credited as toy. I'm guessing like

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe he just shows up as a Robbie the Robot toy,

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 2>which isn't quite the same thing.

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, some of his cameos are just he's a prop

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 3>in the background.

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think on like The Twilight Zone, he

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 2>shows up as like it is a plot element to

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:19.240
<v Speaker 2>some extent, like he has a robot.

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 3>So I mentioned earlier that the special effects throughout the

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:31.800
<v Speaker 3>film just look fantastic, Robbie of course being a major

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 3>one of them, the prop created there. But also there

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 3>are some animation effects in this movie that are I

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:42.320
<v Speaker 3>think just unparalleled, just absolutely spectacular.

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 2>That's right, because eventually we begin we begin to have

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 2>these attacks by some sort of a monster, but it

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 2>is an invisible monster for the most part, and we

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 2>only get glimpses of its form as it interacts with

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 2>various force fields and so forth, various like you know,

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 2>energy sources, and the like. And when this occurs, we

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 2>are seeing special effects that I believe are largely the

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 2>work of one Joshua Maydor, who lived nineteen eleven through

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty five. He's credited with special effects through courtesy

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:22.320
<v Speaker 2>of Walt Disney Productions, because indeed he was an animator

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 2>and special effects artist who had worked on numerous Walt

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Disney animated features such as thirty seven Snow White nineteen forties,

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Fantasia nine fifties, Cinderella later on, as well as such

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 2>live action productions as fifty four to twenty thousand Leagues

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:40.479
<v Speaker 2>under the Sea, which we just mentioned. And so yeah,

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:44.840
<v Speaker 2>his talents helped bring to life the invisible monstrosity. You know,

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 2>they have some practical effects too, like you know, a

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 2>tree getting knocked over on the set when the creature passes,

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 2>But then also these animated effects that kind of give

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 2>us a glimpse of this big kind of you know,

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 2>monstrous almost I don't know, kind of like dog like

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 2>bear like grimlin like being.

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we never see a very clear picture of

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:07.360
<v Speaker 3>what it is, which makes it all the more interesting.

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Like you only get these sort of illuminated electric outlines

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 3>of the face in which it is. It is something

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:18.600
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of raging. It has a snarling, toothy mouth.

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:22.359
<v Speaker 3>It's gigantic, of course, and it also appears to be

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, almost kind of pyramid shaped.

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's really cool and I think these effects

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 2>hold up really well made or Outside of this, would

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 2>mostly continue to work on Disney films and TV projects

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 2>for the rest of his career, including animation effects on

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Darby Ogill and The Little People in fifty nine. He

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:43.240
<v Speaker 2>was also apparently an accomplished painter.

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:46.399
<v Speaker 3>Now, Rob, I know you already said you had been

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 3>listening to the sounds from the film. I don't know

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 3>if they called it a soundtrack in this in this

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 3>case because a lot of it is not exactly what

0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:59.000
<v Speaker 3>we'd think of as music, but is very important for

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:02.359
<v Speaker 3>the feeling of the film. But it was produced by

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 3>actually a pair of creators, right.

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a husband and wife team Beebe and Lewis Baron.

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Boebe lived nineteen twenty sixty two thousand and eight and

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Lewis lived nineteen twenty through nineteen eighty nine, and they

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:20.279
<v Speaker 2>are credited as composer electronic tonalities, which is perfect a

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:25.880
<v Speaker 2>perfect way to describe the music that they create. But

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 2>I think there were also some technicalities regarding unions where

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 2>they weren't allowed to say that it was a film

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 2>score because they were not in the Music Film Score

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Union at the time, and I think therefore were also

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 2>not eligible for OSCAR nomination. But yes, the score is terrific.

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 2>It is an historic score in that it is the

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:54.840
<v Speaker 2>first fully electronic score for a motion picture. By nineteen

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 2>fifty six, movies had been utilizing electronic elements in their

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 2>sound design for quite a while. I was reading a

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 2>little bit about the use of the therem and in

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 2>film in a twenty eighteen article for The Script Lab

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:11.320
<v Speaker 2>by Claire Nina Anarelli, pointing out that the Theoreman was

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:16.240
<v Speaker 2>invented in nineteen twenty and by around nineteen thirty nineteen

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:19.800
<v Speaker 2>thirty one it was used in the Russian film auDNA

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 2>or Alone. This was originally going to be a silent film,

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:26.839
<v Speaker 2>but then apparently had music, sound effects and some dialogue

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 2>recorded in post and then played alongside it, and among

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:35.760
<v Speaker 2>those sounds we had Theramy music. There's another electronic instrument

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 2>of the time period. In an early electronic instrument called

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:42.480
<v Speaker 2>the let's say the one Martineau, and this was also

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:48.160
<v Speaker 2>used in various scores and sound designs, including Bride of Frankenstein.

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:52.440
<v Speaker 2>And the author here points out that the instruments, this

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 2>instrument that Theram in particular in particular, began to pop

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 2>up in Hollywood films during the mid nineteen forties, generally

0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:02.240
<v Speaker 2>to at first to emphasize instability, such as in nineteen

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:06.799
<v Speaker 2>forty five Spellbound, so a destabilizing sonic effect, but then

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:10.240
<v Speaker 2>it began to be associated with sci fi and spaceships

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:14.640
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen fifty with rocket Ship XM, and then of

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:17.280
<v Speaker 2>course in nineteen fifty one's The Day the Earth Stood Still,

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 2>which features a traditional orchestral score but with two theremins

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 2>so again. Up until this point, cinema had been playing

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 2>with a little electronic sound, but no one had fully

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 2>committed to a full length motion picture with exclusively electronic

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 2>music until now. And apparently, like I was reading, apparently

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 2>the way it started out, they were like, well, let's

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 2>these guys were doing some really interesting work BB and Lewis.

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Let's bring them in to do you know, a few

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 2>minutes worth of sound. And then like the right people

0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 2>liked it, and they were like, let's have them do

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing. Let's let's do this exclusively, which you know,

0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:01.759
<v Speaker 2>for various reasons, this wasn't popular with everyone, and I

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 2>can imagine, yeah, there were probably some people who are like,

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:07.280
<v Speaker 2>this doesn't sound like a film score, this doesn't sound

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:11.200
<v Speaker 2>like music. I mean, I would disagree. But their work

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 2>was apparently very avant garde. They you know, they used

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:22.160
<v Speaker 2>ring modulator circuits and then altered the results with reverb,

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:26.239
<v Speaker 2>tape delay and other editing techniques. Apparently there was a

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 2>very high unpredictability with their work, Like if they successfully

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 2>created a certain soundscape, they couldn't necessarily come back and

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 2>recreate it in the same way. So it was kind

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 2>of a roll of the dice and then and then

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 2>an editing exercise to get something that they wanted.

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think a lot of music creators today might

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:47.080
<v Speaker 3>know that effect. If you've got like a pedal board

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:50.280
<v Speaker 3>that you run through and you might create some sound

0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 3>you really like, but then you mess with the knobs

0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 3>and then you can't get it to sound the same

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 3>way again, you forget how you did it.

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow wow. So yeah, at this point, yeah, they

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 2>were very avant garde. They had been contributing electronic sounds

0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 2>to various generally like short art films like the work

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 2>of Ian Hugo. I believe he did some adaptations of

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:12.400
<v Speaker 2>an highs nin short stories, that sort of thing, so

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:16.319
<v Speaker 2>nothing that was at all mainstream Hollywood. And then here

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:21.879
<v Speaker 2>they are scoring the tonalities of Forbidden Planet, and I think, yeah,

0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:25.160
<v Speaker 2>it's it's tremendous, but it is deeply weird and alien.

0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:30.120
<v Speaker 2>It is largely devoid of any melodic content. It just

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 2>the sounds like twinkle like stars against the dark void.

0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 2>They drip like liquid metal and alien caves, and it

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:41.600
<v Speaker 2>just delivers an overwhelming vibe of just inhuman mystery, which

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 2>works exceedingly well with various aspects of the plot and

0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 2>certainly the look of the picture. Maybe less so with

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 2>the more you know, hammy aspects of it. But to

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 2>their credit, nobody went in and added like goofy sound

0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:59.320
<v Speaker 2>effects for the comedic moments, like all the sound design

0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:01.279
<v Speaker 2>we have here is exclusively sci fi.

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:05.239
<v Speaker 3>I think it's the kind of thing that too audiences

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:09.640
<v Speaker 3>going back today feels less groundbreaking because we have experienced

0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 3>a lot of what followed in its footsteps, and that

0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:16.560
<v Speaker 3>if we were to be there in nineteen fifty six.

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:20.399
<v Speaker 3>We would probably recognize the sound of this movie as

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:24.840
<v Speaker 3>being more we would recognize it for being how unique

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:25.839
<v Speaker 3>in time it was.

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:30.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it seems I can imagine people being

0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 2>surprised though, because it at least, you know, to my ears,

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 2>it hits pretty hard. It seems. It feels pretty far

0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 2>removed from something like, you know, some of the work

0:50:39.440 --> 0:50:41.440
<v Speaker 2>of say Wendy Carlos, you would get a little over

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:45.120
<v Speaker 2>a decade later, was like Switched on Bach melodic. Yeah, yeah,

0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:48.239
<v Speaker 2>very melodic, but very electronic at the same time. And

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 2>this is just like, yeah, this stuff is just alien.

0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:53.879
<v Speaker 2>It does not have the human touch, and I love

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:56.760
<v Speaker 2>it for that. But it it seems like a minor

0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 2>miracle that this score exists at all. It seems like

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:02.880
<v Speaker 2>exactly the sort of score that some sort of producer

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:04.839
<v Speaker 2>would come along and say and say, like, we can't

0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:07.160
<v Speaker 2>use this. You can use it when the spaceship's landing,

0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 2>but let's get some stock music in here so that

0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:11.440
<v Speaker 2>the humans can connect with the plot.

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:14.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's too weird. Yeah, but no, they got away

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 3>with it, and I'm glad they did. All Right, you

0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:19.120
<v Speaker 3>want to talk about the plot.

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Let's get into the plot.

0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Warning that this movie does have, in my opinion, some

0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:26.760
<v Speaker 3>pretty good twists and reveals in it, especially the ending,

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:28.840
<v Speaker 3>and we are going to be talking about those. So

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.240
<v Speaker 3>if you want to see it without having anything spoiled,

0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I would suggest pausing and doing that now.

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:36.800
<v Speaker 2>But you're still here, so I guess it's okay.

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:40.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So opening monologue, I'm just going to read this

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:43.440
<v Speaker 3>to set the tone. The voice over tells us. In

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:46.400
<v Speaker 3>the final decade of the twenty first century, men and

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:50.440
<v Speaker 3>women in rocket ships landed on the Moon. Great start.

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:51.759
<v Speaker 3>Do you think we're going to make it to the

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Moon by the twenty nineties. By twenty two hundred AD,

0:51:57.400 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 3>they had reached the other planets of our Solar system

0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 3>almost at once. There followed the discovery of hyperdrive, through

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:07.040
<v Speaker 3>which the speed of light was first attained and later

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 3>greatly surpassed. And so at last mankind began the conquest

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:16.440
<v Speaker 3>and colonization of deep space. United Planets Cruiser C fifty

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.320
<v Speaker 3>seven D now more than a year out from Earth

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:22.480
<v Speaker 3>base on a special mission to the planetary system of

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 3>the great main sequence star Altair. And so it's showing

0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:28.839
<v Speaker 3>us the spaceship as it tells us what it is

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 3>one thing I want to note here. In Forbidden Planet,

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:39.240
<v Speaker 3>the spaceship used by the human heroes is a flying saucer,

0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:42.440
<v Speaker 3>and I think this is notable because while the flying

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 3>saucer was absolutely well known in science fiction of the time,

0:52:46.040 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 3>it had already been used in multiple movies. I think

0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:52.840
<v Speaker 3>it was usually the form of ship used by non

0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:58.640
<v Speaker 3>human aliens. More often, human ships are shown as elongated

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 3>and cylindrical, vaguely rocket shaped, or maybe they were shaped

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:05.800
<v Speaker 3>like an airplane. I don't know if there is anything

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 3>to read into this choice as far as the intentions

0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:12.080
<v Speaker 3>of the filmmakers go, but at least to me, the

0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:16.400
<v Speaker 3>choice of putting humans inside the flying saucer instead of

0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:20.040
<v Speaker 3>having that be the alien vessel suggests that we are

0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:23.280
<v Speaker 3>the aliens, which is relevant to the movie in multiple ways.

0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:25.480
<v Speaker 3>One of these will be a spoiler, so again spoiler

0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 3>warning number one. Of course, in this story, the humans

0:53:29.120 --> 0:53:33.120
<v Speaker 3>are colonizing an exoplanet far beyond Earth, so we are

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.719
<v Speaker 3>the aliens in the scenario. We're not in our own

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:39.920
<v Speaker 3>cosmic neighborhood. But the other sense in which humans are

0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:42.279
<v Speaker 3>the aliens in this movie has to do with the

0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:46.600
<v Speaker 3>big twist at the end. The supposedly alien force that

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:50.320
<v Speaker 3>is attacking the humans is not actually of alien origin

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:53.520
<v Speaker 3>but of human origin. And so anyway, I was thinking

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 3>about this for a bid. It made me think it

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:57.279
<v Speaker 3>might be interesting at some point to come back into

0:53:57.320 --> 0:54:01.480
<v Speaker 3>a deep dive on the history of this ship form,

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:04.440
<v Speaker 3>on the idea of the flying saucer as a shape,

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:07.520
<v Speaker 3>to kind of look at that in history as far

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:10.840
<v Speaker 3>as like UFO reports go, and then also in popular culture,

0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:14.240
<v Speaker 3>but then also compare that to real you know, flying

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:15.279
<v Speaker 3>machine designs.

0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'm all for it. One quick note on

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:24.440
<v Speaker 2>ship design again, this film was very influential on the

0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:27.640
<v Speaker 2>the ultimate shape that Star Trek would take. And it's

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 2>often pointed out that the stars the Starship Enterprise is

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 2>in many ways a disc based ship as well. It

0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:37.919
<v Speaker 2>is a flying saucer, but with other elements added to it. Yeah,

0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:41.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, with engines and the lower you know, engineering

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:43.719
<v Speaker 2>portion of the ship and all, but you know, it's

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:48.799
<v Speaker 2>mostly flying saucer and and part of that seems to

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:50.280
<v Speaker 2>come from Forbidden Planet.

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:52.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's kind of like a it's like a flying

0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:55.960
<v Speaker 3>saucer with a stem and legs. Yeah. So anyway, I'm

0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:58.520
<v Speaker 3>going to try to summarize the setup of the film here. So,

0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 3>the crew of the uninspiringly named C fifty seven D

0:55:03.400 --> 0:55:06.400
<v Speaker 3>are on a mission to the planet Alta four to

0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:11.239
<v Speaker 3>investigate what happened to a ship named the Bellerophon, which

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:14.760
<v Speaker 3>ventured out to the planet twenty years prior. In command

0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:18.520
<v Speaker 3>of this mission is JJ Adams, A by God Rectangle.

0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:22.919
<v Speaker 3>If we ever saw one gruff, tough, no nonsense, you'd

0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 3>really get the feeling that he expects a rost ready

0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:29.399
<v Speaker 3>when he gets home from space. Yes, yeah, So when

0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:33.440
<v Speaker 3>the crew reaches the vicinity of Altar four, they receive

0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:36.720
<v Speaker 3>a radio message from a man. It's a human voice.

0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:39.640
<v Speaker 3>He comes on the radio and identifies himself as doctor

0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:43.400
<v Speaker 3>Edward Morbius. They check that against the manifest of the

0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:46.160
<v Speaker 3>original mission, and they verified that was part of the

0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:50.520
<v Speaker 3>original crew. Morbius is supposed to be there, though curiously

0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 3>they note that he was a philologist, a language expert,

0:55:54.560 --> 0:55:56.840
<v Speaker 3>which is not exactly what you imagine in the landing

0:55:56.880 --> 0:56:01.760
<v Speaker 3>party among your geologists and exobiology and engineers and so forth.

0:56:02.719 --> 0:56:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Morbius warns them not to land. He says doing so

0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:10.880
<v Speaker 3>would put them in grave danger, but Adams is not deterred.

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:14.279
<v Speaker 3>It's the mission, gentlemen, We've got a land. So they

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:16.960
<v Speaker 3>come and set down in the middle of this vast

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:21.720
<v Speaker 3>desert plain surrounded by jagged mountains, and oh, I love

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 3>love the design of the surface of all Ta four.

0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Here there is a painted backdrop which has a green

0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:33.880
<v Speaker 3>sky and sort of different strata of clouds with multiple

0:56:33.960 --> 0:56:37.799
<v Speaker 3>moons in the background. I love the rocky mountains. But

0:56:37.840 --> 0:56:40.359
<v Speaker 3>also this is not a barren, rocky planet, like we're

0:56:40.400 --> 0:56:42.800
<v Speaker 3>looking at a kind of desert plain, but different parts

0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 3>of the planet have more vegetation, have strange looking trees

0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:49.280
<v Speaker 3>and brush and things like that.

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does just look absolutely terrific. You can just

0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:57.880
<v Speaker 2>imagine how sci fi fans of the time just probably

0:56:57.920 --> 0:57:01.399
<v Speaker 2>lost their mind when they'd seen this. You know, this

0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:03.759
<v Speaker 2>was you know, obviously this was before two thousand and

0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:08.120
<v Speaker 2>one a Space Odyssey, which you know, really set an

0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:12.319
<v Speaker 2>all new standard for what visions of a sci fi

0:57:12.400 --> 0:57:15.040
<v Speaker 2>future might look like in space. But man, it Forbidden

0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Planet just looks amazing.

0:57:17.120 --> 0:57:20.000
<v Speaker 3>So the crew lands on the surface, and I like

0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:24.360
<v Speaker 3>here how the different members of the crew have different

0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:27.080
<v Speaker 3>reactions to it, Like they debate how pleasant it is.

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:29.920
<v Speaker 3>One person likes it, another person is put off and

0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:34.120
<v Speaker 3>just misses Earth. And so the crew they get out

0:57:34.160 --> 0:57:37.120
<v Speaker 3>and they are greeted by a robot whom they first

0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:39.640
<v Speaker 3>see hot rotting a buggy through the desert like they

0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:43.479
<v Speaker 3>just see dust kicking up in the desert in the distance, like, Wow,

0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:46.120
<v Speaker 3>something's coming to meet us. And when it pulls up.

0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 3>When they first got there, I couldn't remember exactly what

0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:51.480
<v Speaker 3>was happening. I was like, Oh, did they get attacked

0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:55.200
<v Speaker 3>by the monster this early? No, that's not It's just

0:57:55.320 --> 0:57:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Robbie driving a buggy that he really looks like he

0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:00.840
<v Speaker 3>would be weighing down the front of this thing and

0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:02.840
<v Speaker 3>making it do I don't know whatever. The opposite of

0:58:02.920 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 3>pop and a wheelie is like coming down in the front,

0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:09.480
<v Speaker 3>but somehow it stays. It stays on all four wheels,

0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:13.000
<v Speaker 3>and it arrives and sort of a cage opens in

0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:16.880
<v Speaker 3>the front and Robbie walks out, and oh boy, what

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:19.240
<v Speaker 3>a vision he is. We've already talked about how much

0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:23.040
<v Speaker 3>I like the design of Robbie the robot, but the

0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:26.880
<v Speaker 3>meeting is a magical moment and the crew were kind

0:58:26.880 --> 0:58:28.800
<v Speaker 3>of at a loss for words. He's like, you know,

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:32.480
<v Speaker 3>I am monitored to respond to the name Robbie, and

0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:34.520
<v Speaker 3>he tries to say, hey, if you don't speak English,

0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:36.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, I speak one hundred and eighty seven other

0:58:36.320 --> 0:58:40.880
<v Speaker 3>languages and there are various various sub tongues, and they're like,

0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:45.280
<v Speaker 3>no English is okay? And they say hi to each other,

0:58:45.320 --> 0:58:47.360
<v Speaker 3>and we get a lot of kind of yuck yuck moments.

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:50.439
<v Speaker 3>So with the more bumpkinny members of the crew trying

0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 3>to figure out what to make of Robbie. Yeah, So

0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Robbie takes Adams, his lieutenant Jerry Farman, and the ship's doctor,

0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:02.720
<v Speaker 3>Doc Astro to the home of Edward Morbius, the guy

0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:06.640
<v Speaker 3>they talked to on the radio, and Morbius greets them

0:59:06.760 --> 0:59:10.800
<v Speaker 3>courteously and invites them in for lunch. Now, what would

0:59:10.840 --> 0:59:13.640
<v Speaker 3>you say is what's your read on Morbius when we

0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:14.560
<v Speaker 3>first meet him here?

0:59:15.360 --> 0:59:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's very much a Captain Nemo sort of

0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:21.720
<v Speaker 2>vibe and and and you know, this is a highly

0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:24.240
<v Speaker 2>influential film like it, you know, there are also elements

0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:26.840
<v Speaker 2>like it reminds me of Alien Covenant a bit like, yeah, okay,

0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:29.840
<v Speaker 2>there's there's a guy here and he seems to be

0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:32.200
<v Speaker 2>doing just fine on a world where everyone else is

0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:36.840
<v Speaker 2>absolutely dead something here is us. But that being said,

0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Morbius comes off very pleasant, you know, in his his

0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:45.760
<v Speaker 2>crib is just luxurious. I love the blast curtains that

0:59:45.800 --> 0:59:49.360
<v Speaker 2>the oh, stop motion blast curtains that he demonstrates. I mean,

0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 2>so he wins us over with charm, but you know,

0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:54.120
<v Speaker 2>remains suspicious.

0:59:54.320 --> 0:59:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the blast curtains you're talking about. There's like an

0:59:56.240 --> 0:59:59.320
<v Speaker 3>open design of the house. It's one of those mid

0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:02.680
<v Speaker 3>century kind of West Coast designs where it's all glass

1:00:02.680 --> 1:00:05.880
<v Speaker 3>walls all around or loose sight maybe. But then yeah,

1:00:05.920 --> 1:00:08.640
<v Speaker 3>suddenly he can like snap his fingers or press a

1:00:08.680 --> 1:00:11.440
<v Speaker 3>button and all of the windows get replaced with like

1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:12.280
<v Speaker 3>solid lead.

1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, which is which is created via some sort

1:00:15.720 --> 1:00:18.120
<v Speaker 2>of a stop motion approach. But it looks really good.

1:00:18.160 --> 1:00:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Like I totally buy this as a technology.

1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:24.480
<v Speaker 3>So they get to know each other here over over

1:00:24.520 --> 1:00:27.120
<v Speaker 3>a pleasant lunch, and we learn about Robbie. We learned

1:00:27.120 --> 1:00:30.480
<v Speaker 3>that Robbie is immensely strong, and that he has the

1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:34.480
<v Speaker 3>power to synthesize any object or material that he analyzes

1:00:34.560 --> 1:00:37.240
<v Speaker 3>in his sort of male slot mouth in his chest.

1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:40.680
<v Speaker 3>I think we correct me if I'm wrong, But it

1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:43.600
<v Speaker 3>sort of suggested that the delicious food they just ate

1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:46.680
<v Speaker 3>was somehow extruded out of Robbie's holes.

1:00:47.120 --> 1:00:48.600
<v Speaker 2>I guess so. Yeah.

1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:50.800
<v Speaker 3>And also we learned, I think, in borrowing from some

1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:55.160
<v Speaker 3>other science fiction, that Robbie has some of the laws

1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:59.600
<v Speaker 3>of robotics written into him, like that Isaac Asimov, Susan Calvin,

1:00:59.680 --> 1:01:04.240
<v Speaker 3>robos psychology stories, the laws of robotics. So Morbius demonstrates,

1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:08.240
<v Speaker 3>for example, that Robbie cannot harm a human by and

1:01:08.320 --> 1:01:11.120
<v Speaker 3>he demonstrates this in a great way. He's like, mister Adams,

1:01:11.160 --> 1:01:13.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, give me your gun, and he takes it.

1:01:13.920 --> 1:01:16.800
<v Speaker 3>He puts it in Robbie's hand first as Robbie zap

1:01:16.840 --> 1:01:19.840
<v Speaker 3>a plant in their garden, and then he's like, okay,

1:01:19.880 --> 1:01:23.680
<v Speaker 3>point the blaster at Commander Adams and kill him. But

1:01:24.320 --> 1:01:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Robbie can't do it. He starts to sizzle and fry.

1:01:26.680 --> 1:01:30.000
<v Speaker 3>All these like purple sparks shoot inside his head. And

1:01:30.040 --> 1:01:33.760
<v Speaker 3>this is caused by a contradiction between receiving the order

1:01:33.800 --> 1:01:36.560
<v Speaker 3>which he is supposed to follow and his inability to

1:01:36.600 --> 1:01:38.920
<v Speaker 3>harm anyone. And he just stands there, frozen in that

1:01:38.960 --> 1:01:41.160
<v Speaker 3>state until Morbius says, canceled the order.

1:01:41.720 --> 1:01:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And they're very forgiving of doctor Morbius's terrifying demonstration

1:01:47.760 --> 1:01:48.240
<v Speaker 2>of power.

1:01:49.120 --> 1:01:52.880
<v Speaker 3>I would say we also get the impression that Morbius

1:01:52.960 --> 1:01:55.800
<v Speaker 3>is not too happy about this visit from the crew.

1:01:55.920 --> 1:01:59.320
<v Speaker 3>He is not rude to them, but he says, for

1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:02.880
<v Speaker 3>one of the lines, is how ironic that a simple

1:02:02.880 --> 1:02:07.120
<v Speaker 3>scholar with no ambition beyond a modest measure of seclusion, should,

1:02:07.120 --> 1:02:09.960
<v Speaker 3>out of the clear sky find himself besieged by an

1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:14.120
<v Speaker 3>army of fellow creatures, all grimly determined to be of service.

1:02:14.720 --> 1:02:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Adams is like, we've got to do it

1:02:17.240 --> 1:02:19.479
<v Speaker 2>by the book, you know, We've we've got to stick around,

1:02:19.520 --> 1:02:21.080
<v Speaker 2>and then we have to follow up.

1:02:21.240 --> 1:02:36.360
<v Speaker 3>The mission, so we learn what happened to the rest

1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:39.880
<v Speaker 3>of the crew, the original crew of the Bellerophon. Morbius

1:02:39.920 --> 1:02:42.760
<v Speaker 3>tells the story of how after they landed and began

1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:48.480
<v Speaker 3>to explore the planet, something started going wrong, something started happening. Eventually,

1:02:48.840 --> 1:02:53.600
<v Speaker 3>every other member of the crew was murdered, literally torn

1:02:53.840 --> 1:02:58.760
<v Speaker 3>limb from limb by what he calls an invisible planetary force,

1:02:59.480 --> 1:03:02.600
<v Speaker 3>and in a certain group of the only survivors who

1:03:02.600 --> 1:03:05.680
<v Speaker 3>were left, say for Morbius tried to flee the planet

1:03:05.720 --> 1:03:10.600
<v Speaker 3>in their spaceship. That ship was obliterated upon takeoff. Now,

1:03:10.640 --> 1:03:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Morbius himself has no idea what the force was, but

1:03:14.320 --> 1:03:18.600
<v Speaker 3>it seems he is somehow immune to it, as is

1:03:18.880 --> 1:03:22.960
<v Speaker 3>surprise we find out about his twenty year old daughter, Altara,

1:03:23.160 --> 1:03:26.760
<v Speaker 3>who was born right after their arrival on the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Altara's mother was another scientist of the original Bellerophon Crewe.

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<v Speaker 3>She and Morbius fell in love and married on the

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<v Speaker 3>way to the planet, but unfortunately Altara's mother also died,

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<v Speaker 3>though she died of natural causes. So whatever it was

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<v Speaker 3>that literally ripped apart the bodies of the other members

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<v Speaker 3>of the crew, for some reason, it has never tried

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<v Speaker 3>to harm Morbius or his daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is also deeply suspicious. And when we meet Altaria again,

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't seen the film before, so it's like she

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<v Speaker 2>she a space vampire. She is she a robot? Is

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<v Speaker 2>she an evil destructive force? I was trusting neither of

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<v Speaker 2>these two.

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<v Speaker 3>Really. Yeah, we don't know what to make of her

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<v Speaker 3>at first, and especially because it seems Morbius was hoping

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<v Speaker 3>to keep Altera's existence a secret from Adams and the crew.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like he was trying to hide her. And when

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<v Speaker 3>she becomes her existence becomes revealed, He's like, oh no, She.

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<v Speaker 2>Like wanders out like it's past her bedtime, and like

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<v Speaker 2>guests have come over and it's like, oh, honey, go

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<v Speaker 2>back to bed, and there may be a go There

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<v Speaker 2>are at least a couple of scenes where she is

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<v Speaker 2>told to go to bed. Yeah the male characters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah. So we already talked about Altara how she

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<v Speaker 3>is at once brilliant and naive. Like she you know,

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<v Speaker 3>she is schooled in all of the arts and sciences,

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<v Speaker 3>but she has no experience dealing with human society. She's

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<v Speaker 3>also kind of like snow White in that she has

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<v Speaker 3>animal friends like is deer and a tiger and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that run out of the garden and just hang out

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<v Speaker 3>with her. And the tiger represents no threat. When it

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<v Speaker 3>first shows up, Adams is like pulling out his gun,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're like no, no, no, wait, watch and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it just wants to hang. So Adams and the rest

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<v Speaker 3>offered to take Morbius and Altara home to Earth, but

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<v Speaker 3>Morbius has no desire to go. And after this there's

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of technical work that has to be done.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember exactly what the deal is. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the crew of the ship has to build like a

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<v Speaker 3>faster than light radio transmitter to communicate with Earth and

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<v Speaker 3>find out what their orders are or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, there's something in stalls them. So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>little time to meander about and get into trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, time for kissing lessons. So here's where we get

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<v Speaker 3>to that portion of the story. Essentially, al Tara is

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<v Speaker 3>she's very interested in all of the young men who

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<v Speaker 3>have arrived on this ship, and many of this the

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<v Speaker 3>men on the ship are interested in hers. Some of

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<v Speaker 3>the lovelorn dudes and the crew get obsessed with Altara.

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<v Speaker 3>She's known as Alta for short, by the way, so

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<v Speaker 3>that was kind of confusing first, but sometimes Morbies is

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<v Speaker 3>calling her Alta, And there is a scene where Jerry Farman,

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<v Speaker 3>the lieutenant sort of adams Is number two, takes Alta

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<v Speaker 3>for a walk on the planet's surface and they sort

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<v Speaker 3>of wander into the forest and he ends up trying

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<v Speaker 3>to convince her that he needs to teach her how

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<v Speaker 3>to kiss so that she can be in proper health,

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<v Speaker 3>because you need to kiss in order to be healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>This scene is both pretty cringey, but also, as I

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<v Speaker 3>was mentioning earlier, kind of funny because Alta does say these,

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<v Speaker 3>like really cutting things at him. She's like, isn't this

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to be stimulating? I don't find it remarkable. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And in the middle of all this, Adams catches them

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<v Speaker 3>and so he chews out Jerry. But then he also

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<v Speaker 3>gets super flustered and he criticizes Alta for wearing revealing clothes,

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<v Speaker 3>and in one funny note, adams freak out here contains

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<v Speaker 3>a rant about like how attractive and sext up his

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<v Speaker 3>men are. Yeah, He's like, all of my crew members

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<v Speaker 3>are the prizest specimens of twenty four year old men

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<v Speaker 3>on Earth. But I was thinking, like even Cook, Is

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<v Speaker 3>that what he thinks about Cook?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Cook is in a supporting role, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no offense to the looks of Cook. I just mean, like,

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<v Speaker 3>is he the best Earth has at cooking?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we didn't know this was a breeding.

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<v Speaker 3>Mission, Yeah, exactly so. Anyway, but al Tara, after this,

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<v Speaker 3>goes home and commissions Robbie to make her a new

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<v Speaker 3>dress that will cover her whole body. Of course, we

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<v Speaker 3>will see that dress later, and it also looks beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of a Greek goddess kind of address, but

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<v Speaker 3>interesting things in the scene, like the uncomfortable sexual politics

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<v Speaker 3>of it. Aside, the scene is interesting because it is

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to be I think Alta's first real experience with

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of humanity, with people who would judge her unfairly,

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<v Speaker 3>with people who would lie to her and treat her unkindly,

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<v Speaker 3>with people who would exploit and take advantage of her.

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<v Speaker 3>She's coming into collision with human nature after having grown

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<v Speaker 3>up in what's presented as a sort of perfect bubble

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<v Speaker 3>of cool, detached, trustworthy, scholarly enlightenment, and she's learning that

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<v Speaker 3>human nature has a dark and bestial side as well. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 3>things also start going wrong at the ship. In the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of the night, something invisible sneaks into the ship.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love the special effects in these nighttime sneaking scenes,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, But something sneaks into the ship and

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<v Speaker 3>sabotages the equipment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, so already we're getting little invisible attacks that

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<v Speaker 2>are sabotaging the ship, keeping it from leaving.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. The next day, Adams goes to the home of

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<v Speaker 3>Morbius and Alta to apologize to Alta for one thing

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<v Speaker 3>for his behavior the day before. He sort of realizes

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<v Speaker 3>he was in the wrong and when he arrives, Alta

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<v Speaker 3>is swimming naked in the pool and Adams gets all

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<v Speaker 3>super flustered again. He's like, oh uh, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what to do. But in a scene after this, it

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<v Speaker 3>becomes clear that they are both interested in each other,

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<v Speaker 3>and Alta kisses Adams, and while they are kissing, they

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<v Speaker 3>are suddenly attacked by Alta's tiger friend. The tiger they

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<v Speaker 3>saw earlier that was so friendly and you know, not

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<v Speaker 3>a threat at all, appears on a sort of ledge

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<v Speaker 3>above them and then leaps at them, claws out as

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<v Speaker 3>if ready to attack. Adams just at the last second

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<v Speaker 3>has to zapf it with his phaser gun, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>like there's this feeling Alta has of how why, Like

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<v Speaker 3>the tiger had never tried to harm her before and

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<v Speaker 3>suddenly it has turned hostile.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, something has changed. And this was also I was

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<v Speaker 2>really shocked by this scene when the tiger was completely

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<v Speaker 2>annihilated in mid air by the laser gun, absolutely disintegrated.

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<v Speaker 3>Now from here we move move on to a big

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<v Speaker 3>reveal and a sequence of a lot of the best

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<v Speaker 3>sets and special effects shots in the movie. Morbius comes

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to Adams and doctor Ostro. Ostro was like

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<v Speaker 3>a long for the whole time, so just hanging out

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<v Speaker 3>for the kissing and the tiger killing. But Morbius comes

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<v Speaker 3>to tell Adams in Austro about the secrets of the planet,

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<v Speaker 3>the main secret being that all Tier four was once

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<v Speaker 3>inhabited by an extremely technologically advanced species of alien known

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<v Speaker 3>as the Krell. And here I'm going to read Morbius's

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<v Speaker 3>monologue about the Krell. He says, in times long past,

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<v Speaker 3>this planet was the home of a mighty and noble

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<v Speaker 3>race of beings which called themselves the Krell. Ethically as

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<v Speaker 3>well as technologically, they were a million years ahead of humankind,

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<v Speaker 3>for in unlocking the mysteries of nature, they had conquered

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<v Speaker 3>even their baser selves. And when in the course of

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<v Speaker 3>eons they had abolished sickness and an insanity, and crime

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<v Speaker 3>and all injustice, they turned still with high benevolence outward

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<v Speaker 3>towards space. Long before the dawn of man's history, they

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<v Speaker 3>had walked our Earth and brought back many biological specimens

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<v Speaker 3>like the tiger exactly. He goes on the heights they

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<v Speaker 3>had reached, but then, seemingly on the threshold of some

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<v Speaker 3>supreme accomplishment, which was to have crowned their entire history.

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<v Speaker 3>This all but divine race perished in a single night

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<v Speaker 3>in the two thousand centuries. Since that unexplained catastrophe, even

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<v Speaker 3>their cloud piercing towers of glass and porcelain and adamantine

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<v Speaker 3>steel have crumbled back into the soil of alta fur

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<v Speaker 3>and nothing, absolutely nothing remains above ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we're getting into some pretty ambitious science fiction here.

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<v Speaker 2>Reminds me a bit of the various sublime civilizations in

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<v Speaker 2>Ianimbank's Culture series. These civilizations that have advanced to a state

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<v Speaker 2>where they end up leaving our dimension of space and

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<v Speaker 2>time for higher dimensions, generally leaving behind a great deal

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<v Speaker 2>of technology that's now redundant to them. But I guess

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<v Speaker 2>in this scenario, it sounds like the Krell might have

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<v Speaker 2>been on the cusp of subliming, of moving on, and

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<v Speaker 2>then something terrible kept them from not only kept them

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<v Speaker 2>from moving on to this next level of existence, but

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<v Speaker 2>also just eradicated them entirely, and all we have left

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<v Speaker 2>are the technological depths of the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, when we get a tour of these technological depths,

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<v Speaker 3>a tour of their underground facilities, and again I can't

1:12:40.439 --> 1:12:46.000
<v Speaker 3>emphasize enough how amazing these sets and special effects are.

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<v Speaker 2>Summer light paintings are just amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so good. So they go through like a

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<v Speaker 3>giant underground power plant that they say is a huge

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<v Speaker 3>buried cube running something that's like twenty miles in every direction,

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<v Speaker 3>which we see them. They're crossing this great chasm on

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<v Speaker 3>a on a little suspension bridge, and we see these

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<v Speaker 3>things moving up and down the chasm and electricity arcing

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<v Speaker 3>through it. Also, there is a device they come across.

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<v Speaker 3>They go to this essentially Krell's schoolhouse, where there was

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<v Speaker 3>a device that the Krell used to train the brains

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<v Speaker 3>of their young, and Morbius explains, when this device is

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<v Speaker 3>used by humans, it is almost always fatal, but if

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<v Speaker 3>you can use it and survive, it will double your IQ.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's how Morbi's got so smart. By the way

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<v Speaker 3>he increased his intelligence with the machine, I guess he

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<v Speaker 3>started off pretty smart, though he's humble about it, but

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<v Speaker 3>then he's like, you know, I took my normal, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my middling intellect when I first got here, and I

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<v Speaker 3>doubled it with this machine. Everybody else who tried it

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<v Speaker 3>was killed, but by surviving that process himself that allowed

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<v Speaker 3>him to decipher the Krell histories and figure out parts

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<v Speaker 3>of Krell technology and to for example, a symbol Robbie

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<v Speaker 3>the robot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's explained as well that this maybe not the device itself,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's an element of the device that is like

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<v Speaker 2>a high striker a strong man game from your fare

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<v Speaker 2>or Carnival, you know, where you you hit a circle

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<v Speaker 2>with a hammer or mallet as hard as you can

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<v Speaker 2>and then it causes this little float be lee to go,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to rise up and with your brain, but

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<v Speaker 2>with your brain. Yeah, so it's it's the smart man game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I liketriker. They put Leslie Nielsen on it

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<v Speaker 3>and he can barely get the thing to go off,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like, well that's a you know, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>take brains to command a starship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, massive dig on.

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<v Speaker 3>Adam's here anyway, after learning about all this stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>this like power this underground power plant that can generate

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<v Speaker 3>generate what seems to be an infinite amount of energy,

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<v Speaker 3>and this brain boosting machine, Adams says, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>this changes everything Earth has to know about these devices.

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<v Speaker 3>But Morbius resists he's like, I think this is what

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<v Speaker 3>he was trying to hide from them before. He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>humans are not ready for this kind of power, and

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<v Speaker 3>this technology may have been what wiped out the Krell,

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<v Speaker 3>but if so, we don't know how.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah again, because the Krell we're millions of years ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of humans, and something tripped them up in their dizzying

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<v Speaker 2>ascent with this technology, so we're clearly not ready for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Should we do something on the B plot here about

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<v Speaker 3>cook and the synthesis of whiskey? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, this is so can you set this one up?

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<v Speaker 2>So you know cook? I guess in sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, you know, old fashioned US military sense

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<v Speaker 2>of these kind of plot developments. He's supposed to acquire

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<v Speaker 2>some local ingredients and also find like local illicit sources

1:15:50.800 --> 1:15:54.880
<v Speaker 2>of hooch for cooking, but also clearly not for cooking.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I need to go out and look for

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<v Speaker 3>some wild radishes. Yeah, yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And basically what he runs into Robbie the robot

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, hey, I need some more of this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and he shows him like a mostly empty flask of

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<v Speaker 2>whiskey and Robbie grabs it shoots it back into his

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<v Speaker 2>mail slot, and Cook is like, well, well that was

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<v Speaker 2>my last swig. How could you do that? And Robbie's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I will now synthesize this for you. Will let you say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>will sixty gallons be sufficient?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Yeah? And then Cook comes back later and there's

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<v Speaker 3>there's like a giant pyramid of heights of whiskey in

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<v Speaker 3>their own individual glass bottles.

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<v Speaker 2>And somehow Cook doesn't die at this moment, like I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like later on in like in speculative media, like

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<v Speaker 2>this would be the moment where the monster comes and

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<v Speaker 2>kills him, you know where He's like, I have all

1:16:52.040 --> 1:16:54.400
<v Speaker 2>the whiskey in the world. What could possibly go wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Instant monster death? Booze enough at last, yes, exactly, but

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<v Speaker 2>no Cook will survive a little longer.

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<v Speaker 3>So another thing that happens at this point in the

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<v Speaker 3>story is that the attacks on the ship become much

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<v Speaker 3>more severe. What we got in the first attack by

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<v Speaker 3>the Invisible Force at night was just the sabotaging of equipment,

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<v Speaker 3>but this escalates to in one instance, murder. I believe

1:17:18.360 --> 1:17:22.400
<v Speaker 3>the communications officer Quinn is found murder. Did they say?

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<v Speaker 3>They describe it in a quite grisly way. I think

1:17:25.320 --> 1:17:27.840
<v Speaker 3>they say, he smeared all over the walls of the

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<v Speaker 3>communication room, and then after that they set up a perimeter.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what we should do sometime on the show,

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<v Speaker 3>is we should set up a list of the best

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<v Speaker 3>establishing a perimeter scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because this is pretty good though, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>technology is convincing, and yeah, everyone left. I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>really this also reminded me of what would come much

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<v Speaker 2>later with Aliens, with you know, it's like, all right,

1:17:54.040 --> 1:17:57.599
<v Speaker 2>is it it's inside the perimeter? You know, I'm reading

1:17:57.840 --> 1:17:59.799
<v Speaker 2>it's reading right, and so forth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's very similar what happens here. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 3>almost feel like that scene in Aliens. It feels like

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<v Speaker 3>a callback to this.

1:18:07.479 --> 1:18:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they establish a perimeter, and eventually this creature, this

1:18:20.479 --> 1:18:23.840
<v Speaker 3>invisible creature, comes in a brazen frontal attack where the

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<v Speaker 3>crew are resisting with big energy weapons, these big beam

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<v Speaker 3>weapons and then handheld laser rifles. And when the thing,

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<v Speaker 3>when the invisible creature gets illuminated by all of the

1:18:36.520 --> 1:18:40.040
<v Speaker 3>energy weapons that are hitting it, we suddenly see pieces

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<v Speaker 3>of its form and yeah, it's oh, it's frightening. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I've read things that like I think the producers

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<v Speaker 3>were worried that this would be so frightening that like

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<v Speaker 3>it would be, it would make the movie inappropriate for

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<v Speaker 3>younger audiences. And I can see why. It's a truly

1:18:57.439 --> 1:19:01.080
<v Speaker 3>scary thing that they conjure up. It's like a kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a ram lion bulldog monster with sort of horns

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<v Speaker 3>or something, and it's made out of flames.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. To compare it to things that would come much

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<v Speaker 2>later and may have been each in their own way

1:19:15.280 --> 1:19:18.040
<v Speaker 2>or at least in their visualization on screen, been inspired by.

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<v Speaker 2>This reminds me a bit of the ball Rog. Reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me a bit of the red bull from The Last Unicorn.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah. Oh and Jerry Farman, the lieutenant who is

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<v Speaker 3>trying to do the kissing lessons, he gets killed in

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<v Speaker 3>one of these attacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Eventually Cook does too, right, Cook's taken out by

1:19:34.600 --> 1:19:35.040
<v Speaker 2>the monster.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh is he? I didn't remember that? How could they

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<v Speaker 3>do that to Cook?

1:19:40.560 --> 1:19:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Thank God he's secured all that whiskey first bourbon read.

1:19:45.280 --> 1:19:48.000
<v Speaker 3>But during this attack we start to get an indication

1:19:49.120 --> 1:19:52.599
<v Speaker 3>of where this alien monster is coming from, because we

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<v Speaker 3>cut away in the middle of the attack to Morbius,

1:19:56.680 --> 1:19:59.040
<v Speaker 3>who is sleeping in his home. I think he's fallen

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<v Speaker 3>asleep on his desk and he is maybe having a nightmare,

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<v Speaker 3>and at one point suddenly he snaps awake in his

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<v Speaker 3>home and then at the other end of the planet,

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<v Speaker 3>not at the other end of the planet, but away where

1:20:11.960 --> 1:20:17.640
<v Speaker 3>the monster is attacking, it suddenly vanishes. Oh oh. So

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<v Speaker 3>after this attack, Adams goes back to the Morbius and

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<v Speaker 3>Altara house to try to get I think the reason

1:20:25.960 --> 1:20:28.120
<v Speaker 3>is he wants Altara to leave the planet with him.

1:20:28.200 --> 1:20:30.720
<v Speaker 3>He's like, you know, this monster is attacking. We've got

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<v Speaker 3>to go now, and for your own safety, you should

1:20:32.840 --> 1:20:33.280
<v Speaker 3>come with me.

1:20:33.680 --> 1:20:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Plus, we're in love. Now this is meant to be.

1:20:37.200 --> 1:20:38.240
<v Speaker 2>You've got to run away with me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And to be clear, it seems reciprocal, like she's

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<v Speaker 3>very into him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's part of you know, this part of

1:20:45.880 --> 1:20:48.840
<v Speaker 2>the split that's going on here is that now she

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<v Speaker 2>is more she is attracted to the outside world, the

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<v Speaker 2>world of Adams, the world of Earth, and wants to leave.

1:20:57.400 --> 1:20:59.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she wants to bring her father with her

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<v Speaker 2>if possible, but she is also ready to leave her

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<v Speaker 2>father's home, her father's world for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>I think. When so Adams and Astro go to the house,

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<v Speaker 3>and when they first get there, Robbie's trying to block

1:21:12.000 --> 1:21:14.479
<v Speaker 3>their way. He's like, I am monitored not to permit you.

1:21:14.520 --> 1:21:16.760
<v Speaker 3>But they're kind of discussing, like what's he gonna do.

1:21:16.840 --> 1:21:19.160
<v Speaker 3>He can't hurt us, so I think we could. But

1:21:19.200 --> 1:21:22.120
<v Speaker 3>then we never see that tested, right, because eventually Altara

1:21:22.200 --> 1:21:24.240
<v Speaker 3>shows up and is like, cancel the order, let them in.

1:21:24.720 --> 1:21:26.760
<v Speaker 3>But I was curious about that. It's like, Okay, if

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<v Speaker 3>he can't hurt them, could they couldn't they just force

1:21:28.800 --> 1:21:29.639
<v Speaker 3>their way past him?

1:21:30.400 --> 1:21:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, he is he's bulky.

1:21:32.400 --> 1:21:36.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true anyway. So, uh So, now we have

1:21:37.080 --> 1:21:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Adams and Astro in the in the Morbius home, and

1:21:41.120 --> 1:21:44.679
<v Speaker 3>at some point here Astro sneaks away because, oh, because

1:21:44.680 --> 1:21:47.559
<v Speaker 3>this is another part of their plan. They're like, we've

1:21:47.560 --> 1:21:49.880
<v Speaker 3>got to find a way to defeat this monster. So

1:21:50.320 --> 1:21:52.960
<v Speaker 3>either Adams or Astro, one of them needs to use

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<v Speaker 3>the brain enhance her machine, which you know they have

1:21:56.160 --> 1:21:59.000
<v Speaker 3>learned will probably kill you, but if you can survive it,

1:21:59.000 --> 1:22:00.920
<v Speaker 3>it'll make you super small art and they think they

1:22:00.920 --> 1:22:05.320
<v Speaker 3>will need those extra smarts in order to survive. Well.

1:22:05.400 --> 1:22:08.120
<v Speaker 3>While they're hanging out Robbie, Robbie at some point like

1:22:08.200 --> 1:22:12.120
<v Speaker 3>comes in carrying the body of Ostro and it's like, uh, oh,

1:22:12.200 --> 1:22:14.800
<v Speaker 3>he tried to he tried to get smart. Bad move.

1:22:15.120 --> 1:22:17.600
<v Speaker 2>And this is an example of a scene that I

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<v Speaker 2>wish we could have seen like this would have This

1:22:20.360 --> 1:22:24.000
<v Speaker 2>is a highly dramatic moment for this character, and it

1:22:24.080 --> 1:22:27.920
<v Speaker 2>occurs entirely off screen, and they're like, oh, by the way,

1:22:27.960 --> 1:22:30.559
<v Speaker 2>he did it. He plugged in and now he's dying.

1:22:30.960 --> 1:22:32.719
<v Speaker 2>But we do get some final last words.

1:22:33.240 --> 1:22:36.479
<v Speaker 3>His final last words are solve the riddle. Solve the

1:22:36.560 --> 1:22:40.320
<v Speaker 3>riddle of the movie. So by increasing his intelligence, he

1:22:40.360 --> 1:22:43.559
<v Speaker 3>did doom himself to death, but he also was able

1:22:43.640 --> 1:22:47.200
<v Speaker 3>to understand what happened to the Krell and how it's

1:22:47.240 --> 1:22:49.960
<v Speaker 3>still affecting them now. So it turns out the big

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<v Speaker 3>reveal is this giant underground power plant was created for

1:22:55.800 --> 1:23:00.799
<v Speaker 3>the purpose of essentially doing away with all all need

1:23:00.920 --> 1:23:06.559
<v Speaker 3>for mechanical labor and mechanical devices, and instead would would

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<v Speaker 3>allow any of the Krell to make a physical reality

1:23:12.320 --> 1:23:16.800
<v Speaker 3>manifest simply by thinking about it. So you can interface

1:23:16.880 --> 1:23:21.559
<v Speaker 3>with this giant machine and it will interpret your thoughts

1:23:21.960 --> 1:23:27.439
<v Speaker 3>and then manifest those thoughts as physical atoms and energy,

1:23:28.120 --> 1:23:31.280
<v Speaker 3>which sounds great. Okay, it's just like infinite free energy

1:23:31.280 --> 1:23:34.040
<v Speaker 3>and labor. You know, you can all want all kind

1:23:34.040 --> 1:23:37.400
<v Speaker 3>of problems. Material problems are done away with, right.

1:23:37.560 --> 1:23:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if the rational mind can imagine it, then it

1:23:40.320 --> 1:23:42.000
<v Speaker 2>is real and it is in action.

1:23:42.640 --> 1:23:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Except the problem is what the Crell did not foresee

1:23:46.560 --> 1:23:50.000
<v Speaker 3>and what Ostro figures out happened to them is it's

1:23:50.040 --> 1:23:53.000
<v Speaker 3>not only the rational mind that's in the driver's seat now, baby,

1:23:53.360 --> 1:23:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Both the rational mind and the sort of the ego,

1:23:56.200 --> 1:24:01.160
<v Speaker 3>the rational mind and the base design of the ID

1:24:01.400 --> 1:24:04.519
<v Speaker 3>are hooked up to this machine. And so it began

1:24:04.720 --> 1:24:10.320
<v Speaker 3>manifesting the Krell's unconscious or subconscious thoughts and desires as well.

1:24:10.760 --> 1:24:14.479
<v Speaker 3>Everything that they knew they shouldn't do but deep down

1:24:14.560 --> 1:24:18.519
<v Speaker 3>secretly wanted that was manifest as well. And so what

1:24:18.560 --> 1:24:22.800
<v Speaker 3>that turned into was the slaughter and extermination of their

1:24:22.960 --> 1:24:24.759
<v Speaker 3>entire people, all.

1:24:24.560 --> 1:24:27.880
<v Speaker 2>The demons of the mind unleashed on the planet with

1:24:28.479 --> 1:24:32.400
<v Speaker 2>infinite power backing them up. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's amazing,

1:24:32.520 --> 1:24:35.040
<v Speaker 2>like this is such a Again, when this movie goes

1:24:35.080 --> 1:24:41.280
<v Speaker 2>hard on its on its genre elements, it's really spectacular.

1:24:41.560 --> 1:24:44.519
<v Speaker 3>I agree. It's a great premise, and it not to

1:24:44.560 --> 1:24:47.880
<v Speaker 3>spoil it by saying this, but I realized I came

1:24:47.880 --> 1:24:50.280
<v Speaker 3>to these in backwards order. But when I was younger,

1:24:50.320 --> 1:24:53.759
<v Speaker 3>I read the books Sphere by Michael Crichton, which essentially

1:24:53.840 --> 1:24:57.479
<v Speaker 3>has the same premise. It's like they come across alien

1:24:57.520 --> 1:25:01.800
<v Speaker 3>technology that can make your thoughts manifest, but then they realize, like, oh,

1:25:01.840 --> 1:25:06.479
<v Speaker 3>it's also making subconscious thoughts manifest. So everybody's anxieties and

1:25:06.479 --> 1:25:10.639
<v Speaker 3>fears are like becoming physical objects that are attacking them.

1:25:11.040 --> 1:25:14.559
<v Speaker 3>And so, in fact, what the characters discover here in

1:25:14.640 --> 1:25:17.240
<v Speaker 3>Forbidden Planet is not only is that what happened to

1:25:17.280 --> 1:25:21.280
<v Speaker 3>the Krell, it's still operating that way, and so it

1:25:21.400 --> 1:25:28.639
<v Speaker 3>is taking the subconscious fears and desires and complexes of

1:25:28.840 --> 1:25:32.400
<v Speaker 3>doctor Morbius who has linked his brain to the machine

1:25:32.080 --> 1:25:37.080
<v Speaker 3>by using it and making those manifest. And in fact,

1:25:38.200 --> 1:25:41.600
<v Speaker 3>not all of the links are fully spelled out, but

1:25:41.760 --> 1:25:44.960
<v Speaker 3>it's sort of suggesting the idea that like, he doesn't

1:25:45.000 --> 1:25:47.599
<v Speaker 3>want to go back to Earth, he doesn't want Altera

1:25:47.720 --> 1:25:50.520
<v Speaker 3>to go back to Earth. He doesn't want the corrupting

1:25:50.600 --> 1:25:54.880
<v Speaker 3>influence of Earth to change his daughter, to sort of

1:25:54.960 --> 1:25:59.000
<v Speaker 3>like corrupt the perfect precious existence he has created for them.

1:25:59.200 --> 1:26:01.760
<v Speaker 3>And you know, you can kind of understand why. You

1:26:01.800 --> 1:26:05.920
<v Speaker 3>can see how Altera's first encounter with the broader human

1:26:06.000 --> 1:26:10.280
<v Speaker 3>kind involved, like, you know, some dudes being creeps to her. Yeah,

1:26:10.360 --> 1:26:12.479
<v Speaker 3>so you can see where his desire is to kind

1:26:12.520 --> 1:26:14.800
<v Speaker 3>of like just create a bubble and live in it

1:26:14.840 --> 1:26:19.120
<v Speaker 3>with his family and live in that protective bubble without

1:26:19.160 --> 1:26:22.559
<v Speaker 3>any intrusion where that desire comes from. But it is

1:26:22.680 --> 1:26:27.320
<v Speaker 3>manifesting as the creation of a violent monster that lashes

1:26:27.360 --> 1:26:30.320
<v Speaker 3>out to kill anything that threatens to puncture the bubble.

1:26:31.320 --> 1:26:34.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and now that we know what the monster is,

1:26:35.320 --> 1:26:38.120
<v Speaker 2>it is coming for our main characters, and it is

1:26:38.360 --> 1:26:43.040
<v Speaker 2>we realize inexorable. It is unstoppable. And this just leads

1:26:43.080 --> 1:26:47.960
<v Speaker 2>to like an avalanche of scenes that are really highly effective.

1:26:48.200 --> 1:26:50.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. And I like the way that it really

1:26:50.600 --> 1:26:53.280
<v Speaker 3>does make sense taken given the premise of the story,

1:26:53.320 --> 1:26:55.960
<v Speaker 3>because you might think, well, couldn't he just call it off?

1:26:56.560 --> 1:26:59.559
<v Speaker 3>But as anybody who's ever had like a panic attack,

1:27:00.400 --> 1:27:04.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, you can know rationally that the thing that

1:27:04.720 --> 1:27:08.120
<v Speaker 3>you are afraid of is not something you should be

1:27:08.160 --> 1:27:10.840
<v Speaker 3>afraid of, It's not a real threat, and yet you

1:27:10.960 --> 1:27:13.840
<v Speaker 3>still just can't make your subconscious mind to give in.

1:27:13.920 --> 1:27:17.280
<v Speaker 3>The subconscious is resistant to rational control.

1:27:17.960 --> 1:27:20.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so he can't call it off, he can't

1:27:20.520 --> 1:27:21.760
<v Speaker 2>control it.

1:27:21.640 --> 1:27:22.000
<v Speaker 3>It is.

1:27:22.080 --> 1:27:24.920
<v Speaker 2>It is coming no matter what, and even like knowing

1:27:24.960 --> 1:27:27.320
<v Speaker 2>what it is doesn't give him power over it, which

1:27:27.360 --> 1:27:30.519
<v Speaker 2>you know matches up with some of these states of

1:27:30.560 --> 1:27:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the mind as we experience them as well. I Mean,

1:27:34.000 --> 1:27:36.760
<v Speaker 2>sometimes knowing can help, and that can be part of

1:27:36.800 --> 1:27:39.719
<v Speaker 2>the tools of controlling things like anxiety in some cases.

1:27:39.800 --> 1:27:43.320
<v Speaker 2>But but yeah, not necessarily at all.

1:27:44.160 --> 1:27:46.120
<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of interesting things that happen in

1:27:46.160 --> 1:27:49.080
<v Speaker 3>the climax here, Like at one point they try to

1:27:49.120 --> 1:27:52.439
<v Speaker 3>command Robbie the robot to kill the monster that's attacking

1:27:52.479 --> 1:27:56.559
<v Speaker 3>them in the house. But Robbie, knowing that the monster

1:27:56.760 --> 1:28:00.920
<v Speaker 3>is a manifestation of a human mind, can't can't hurt it,

1:28:01.479 --> 1:28:03.000
<v Speaker 3>right because he can't hurt a human.

1:28:03.560 --> 1:28:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's excellent, And it just leads them to they

1:28:06.800 --> 1:28:10.040
<v Speaker 2>have to like start retreating through these various levels of protection.

1:28:10.160 --> 1:28:13.160
<v Speaker 2>So for instance, the homes, combat shades come up, and

1:28:13.280 --> 1:28:15.360
<v Speaker 2>of course the doors, yeah, the blast doors, and the

1:28:15.400 --> 1:28:18.240
<v Speaker 2>monster makes pretty quick work of that, and they have

1:28:18.280 --> 1:28:24.920
<v Speaker 2>to retreat into the Krell subsurface chambers and they have

1:28:24.960 --> 1:28:28.559
<v Speaker 2>all those really cool doors to move behind and the

1:28:28.600 --> 1:28:31.599
<v Speaker 2>locking mechanism, but even that is not going to keep

1:28:31.600 --> 1:28:34.120
<v Speaker 2>the monster at bay, and we get this terrific scene

1:28:34.120 --> 1:28:37.120
<v Speaker 2>where the monster is like literally melting its way through

1:28:37.160 --> 1:28:37.799
<v Speaker 2>the door.

1:28:38.000 --> 1:28:40.439
<v Speaker 3>And we see the power plant. There's like a readout

1:28:40.479 --> 1:28:44.400
<v Speaker 3>engine on this showing how much energy is being directed

1:28:44.439 --> 1:28:48.040
<v Speaker 3>into the machine that this alien power plant is generating.

1:28:48.760 --> 1:28:51.360
<v Speaker 3>And earlier we were seeing things happen where there's like,

1:28:51.439 --> 1:28:54.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, fifty lights lined up and only the first

1:28:54.080 --> 1:28:57.240
<v Speaker 3>one is barely lighting. But when the monster's trying to

1:28:57.240 --> 1:28:59.120
<v Speaker 3>get through the door, we see it like lighting up

1:28:59.160 --> 1:29:01.160
<v Speaker 3>all the way more, more and more, and like the

1:29:01.840 --> 1:29:05.360
<v Speaker 3>energy produced is limitless, and they realize, like it's just

1:29:05.479 --> 1:29:09.120
<v Speaker 3>not going to stop now. I think finally, Morbius was

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<v Speaker 3>resistant to the idea at first that he was the

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<v Speaker 3>one creating the monster, but he eventually comes to accept

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<v Speaker 3>it and then sort of gets in the path of

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<v Speaker 3>the monster, and I think as he is fatally injured

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<v Speaker 3>by it, that sort of like makes it dematerialize for

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<v Speaker 3>the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like he stands up to it, he basically has

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<v Speaker 2>a you shall not pass moment. But yeah, at that,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he still can't overpower it, and it manages

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<v Speaker 2>to fatally injure him in the process.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so at that point they somehow they end

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<v Speaker 3>up setting a self destruct thing for the entire planet.

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<v Speaker 3>You have ten minutes to reach minimum safe distance. They

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<v Speaker 3>set up a self destruct for the planet, and then

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<v Speaker 3>Adams and Altara have to escape back to the ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and I think Robbie comes with them, doesn't he

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<v Speaker 3>as Robbie comes too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Robbie is to come along for the ride.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fair trade. I mean like they made the

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<v Speaker 3>right decision to set the self destruct like such a

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<v Speaker 3>such a technology that makes all our thoughts manifest that

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<v Speaker 3>there's no way that can be wielded correctly. You just

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<v Speaker 3>just had to be destroyed. There's can't be good. But Robbie,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Robbie's he's good tech. You can bring

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<v Speaker 3>him with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, his programming is sound, uh, and so yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a board. We have a moment where the surviving crew

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<v Speaker 2>members there witness the destruction of the planet from afar,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a little weird because Adams is like, there

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<v Speaker 2>it goes your dad's on that planet or what's left

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<v Speaker 2>of him, and yeah, it's like, well yes, obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>But the ending line I remember is a little hokie.

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<v Speaker 3>He has basically a he tampered in God's domain And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>a statement I think, but they but also there's a

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<v Speaker 3>good observation where they're like, you know, what the crew

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<v Speaker 3>achieved is not unique to the Krell. Maybe someday long

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<v Speaker 3>in the future, humans will achieve the same level of

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<v Speaker 3>technology and then we'll be facing the same problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this is a valid point. We see this

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<v Speaker 2>in sci fi time and time again. It remains pretty accurate,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is that our technological achievements tend to outstrip

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<v Speaker 2>our ability to control ourselves regarding that technology at a

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<v Speaker 2>personal level or at like a governmental level.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a plea for a kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>regulatory or limiting consciousness about technology before it's achieved. It's

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<v Speaker 3>recognizing that the story of the Krell is literally people

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<v Speaker 3>achieving a power to do something before they've fully thought

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<v Speaker 3>through what it would mean to have that power, and

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<v Speaker 3>then of course it destroys them. And this is something

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen happen again and again in technological history. People

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<v Speaker 3>figure out how to do something before they've thought through

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<v Speaker 3>all of the ways in which it could be used

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<v Speaker 3>for ill and should thus be constrained or constrained to

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<v Speaker 3>the extent that it could be constrained. I mean, some

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<v Speaker 3>things are really hard to constrain, but you know, to

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<v Speaker 3>whatever extent we have the power to. And so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't want to become like the Krell. We should

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<v Speaker 3>think hard about how technological creations could go wrong before

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<v Speaker 3>we create them. It's kind of a plea for science fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, that's Forbidden Planet.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the Forbidden Planet. And yeah, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was an absolute delight. I highly recommend checking this one

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<v Speaker 2>out if you've managed to not see it thus far.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we said before, sometimes these highly influential films, they

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<v Speaker 2>can be easy films to miss because you have at

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<v Speaker 2>least sort of surface level understanding of what it's about,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's easy to sort of put that one on

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<v Speaker 2>the back burner. But this one's worth coming back to

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. All Right, we would love to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>everyone out there. What is your history with Forbidden Planet?

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<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts concerning it and other pictures from

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<v Speaker 2>this timeframe? Are there other movies that you would compare

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<v Speaker 2>favorably to Forbidden Plant from the nineteen fifties? Yeah, right

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