1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Training Camp Cast. The Patriots Training 2 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Camp Cast is your source for all the news from 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Patriots Training Camp. 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: Well, I do still watch the news. 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: Practice is over, but the writers of Patriots dot com 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: have you covered well, I miss yesterday now here to 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: review today's practice. The writers of Patriots dot com and that. 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: Would be the entire crew of the writing team of 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: Patriots dot com, Evan Lazar, Mike Desol, Paul Parola with 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: you after the in stadium night practice on day nine 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: here at Jillette Stadium, and I would say the biggest 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: news of the night was off the field as practice 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: was getting underway, a report from Adam Schefter. I believe 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: he was the first to have it about a contract 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: adjustment for Matthew Judon, so which definitely makes a lot 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: of sense based on what we saw during camp every 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: single day with Judon doing very little out there, he 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: gets a couple extra million in the coffers, which I 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: think he is, you know, certainly deserving of. After practice, 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: we got to hear from Jack Jones for the first 21 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: time of the summer, So we'll get to that later. 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: In between I'm gonna let you guys tell everybody what happened. 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: Well, it was a White vers Blue quasi scrimmage. I mean, 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: I'm not sure exactly what you would put it in, 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: yes scrimmage and quotes. 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: I used quotes in my blogs a number of times 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: that half scrimmage. 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 3: It's kind of just a dry run of a game 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 3: without the competition portion of it and just getting used 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: to the flow of the game. And you know, I 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: think they threw a couple of situations at them. All right, 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: that kick was missed, now we're here, you know, those 33 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: kind of things. So not a lot to probably take 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: from the in stadium practice, but a nice cap to 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: the week. I think six straight days of practices. They're 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: going to be off tomorrow and get a little break 37 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: and then and then you kind of turn the page 38 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: to the preseason on Sunday and start getting ready of Panthers. 39 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: So on the field, I don't know, not too much 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: to take away. Maybe the kickers, Evan, what do you got. 41 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, specialists, I think is always a big one. And 42 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: I know it's crazy, but trust me when I tell you, 43 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: when you're in the stadium and there's even just a 44 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 4: little bit of stakes of being in front of a crowd, 45 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: I'm sure Bill Belichick is keeping tally of a Chad 46 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 4: Ryland versus Nick Folk and the punters and all that. 47 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 4: Bryce Berenger had some boomers tonight, a sixty five yard 48 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: punt over five seconds of hangtime and another one earlier 49 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 4: that was over five seconds in hang time. So there's 50 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 4: absolutely no question that that guy can punt the football. 51 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 4: The question really is is consistency, because we've seen some 52 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 4: punts where shanks it a little bit, and then other 53 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 4: punts where he can flip the field like he did tonight. 54 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: Chad Ryland did miss from about forty five yards, but 55 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 4: he made his other kicks, and Nick Folk was perfect. 56 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 4: Both of them had a weird false start snap issue 57 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 4: happened to them, so I'm kind of throwing those kicks out. 58 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: But I still consistently see a much bigger leg much. 59 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 4: It just looks fresher coming off Chad Ryley. 60 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: I don't think this much doubt, but I did think 61 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 2: that it was something to keep an eye on first 62 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: time in the stadium. I think Evan's right. I think, 63 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 2: you know, Bill likes that sort of environment to add 64 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: a little juice. I thought it was interesting that most 65 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: of the kicks came toward the you know, the cloth 66 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: the old closed and I was gonna say the close ed, 67 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: but now they both closed, you know, away from the 68 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: new larger video board. And uh yeah, there was a 69 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: couple that Rylan missed. One was definitely thrown off kilter 70 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: by the movement up front of the line and whatnot. 71 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: But I bring it up only because it gave me 72 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: some PTSD to justin Rollwasser. It did low line drive 73 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: that was kind of spinning sideways, fell short into the 74 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: to the left. Was not good, but I don't think 75 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: that was necessarily on him. I agree with Evan that 76 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: the leg is definitely stronger than nick Folk, and Folk 77 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: was as normal. He made everything. 78 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just you know, I could comment on Jude 79 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: on too, because I guess this is kind of the 80 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: new normal with the hold ends and this is what 81 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: it kind of looks like. You know, I think this 82 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: is what you got to keep in mind when you 83 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: know guys are going through this. Certainly not everybody, but 84 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: there was a lot of speculation of what was going on, 85 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: and that is what's going on. 86 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: Hold in not getting I think, so, you know, and 87 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: again you know, they they're not going to come right 88 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: out and admit that. But Stefan Gilmour never did either, 89 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: and I would go to my grave thinking that he 90 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: did that a couple of years ago as well. 91 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: And it's an easy to kind of hide it because 92 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: he's such an important player and they don't really have 93 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: much depth behind him, so it's easy to kind of 94 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: make that leap in your mind, like, well, maybe they're 95 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: just protecting him. But it's good news, and I hope 96 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: to see Judon out there and involved and getting in 97 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: shape and getting ready for the season. But I also 98 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: am okay if they continue to manage him a little bit. 99 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,119 Speaker 2: Ye, So go ahead. 100 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: No. 101 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 4: I just think my line for Judon was the first 102 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: joint practice in Green Bay. I didn't really care if 103 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 4: he practices in the practices here, but he's got to 104 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 4: have some sort of competition to get the cobwebs off 105 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: at some point. And I think that that that was 106 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 4: back to back weeks. They wanted to get something done. 107 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 4: They maybe even got down a little bit early to 108 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 4: have him practice next week. I think he'll be out 109 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: there practicing. But a guy that only Nick Bosa and 110 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: Miles Garrett have more sacks than Matthew Judon since he 111 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 4: signed with the Patriots two years go, and I think 112 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: you look at that locker room. If they're not going 113 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 4: to take care of Judon, then who are they going 114 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: to take care of. I think it's somebody that they 115 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: got to make sure, just for locker room morale that 116 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: when you're back to back Pro Bowls amongst the leaders 117 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 4: in Zack fifteen and a half sacks last year, you 118 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: got to reward some people for that type of effort. 119 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 120 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, let him wet his beak a little bit, as 121 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 2: they say, Mike. So with the Jack Jones situation, he 122 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: took a very limited amount of questions at the end 123 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: of the practice. I thought he did a good job 124 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: of just sort of handling himself. You know, he just 125 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: talked about, you know, wants to be on the football field, 126 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: and when he's out there, it's all about what he's 127 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: supposed to do, when he wants to make sure he's 128 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: doing whatever he needs to do for the team. He 129 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: was asked about his version of the events that night. 130 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: He said that that was a question for his lawyer, 131 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: which I think is the absolute right answer from the 132 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: player perspective there. And then you know, someone I think 133 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: asked him if he was surprised to still be part 134 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: of the team or no, sorry, if he expects to 135 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: be part of the team in twenty twenty three, and 136 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: he said that, well, that's that's going to be up 137 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: to code. That's coaches call. And you know, he's again 138 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 2: just doing whatever he's supposed to do to make sure 139 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: he's ready to be part of this team. And he 140 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: was asked, I know that we was sort of like 141 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: a short amount of questions. But he was also asked 142 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: about the incident that took place at practice on Thursday, 143 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: and he really didn't get into it. Just that's just football, man, 144 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: you know, And that was that was big. I thought 145 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: he did a nice job. I mean, under the circumstances. 146 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: Not an easy situation, right for a young guy in 147 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 2: the crosshairs. He's got to balance the legal elements of 148 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: this as well as everything else. I thought he did 149 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: a good enough job. And you know, I think you 150 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: face the music and maybe you won't have to do 151 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: it again for a while. Yeah. 152 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: So, I mean still has big questions with him. Is 153 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: he going to be available. He's a good player. I 154 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: mean I think he can definitely play. He could definitely 155 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: help this team. And so it's just disappointing. You know, 156 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 3: we knew what he was dealing with legally, then to 157 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: have that event yesterday happen, it's just it's kind of 158 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: adding to the uncertainty of Jack Jones. And you know, 159 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: he said he didn't know, and I don't know what's 160 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: going to happen with him right now. And obviously he's 161 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 3: got legal things coming up in August as well that 162 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 3: could have something to do with it. So I guess 163 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: we just kind of wait and see. And you know, 164 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: Isaiah Bolden kind of playing a little well, came up 165 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: with an interception at the end. I know it doesn't 166 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: mean anything, but I think he's just been one guy 167 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: who maybe has benefited a little bit from Jack Jones's 168 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: reduced reps. 169 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, some reps, absolutely, Yeah. 170 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 4: I think, you know, just to spin it to football 171 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 4: with Jack Jones, you look at what happens when he's 172 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 4: not out there to that outside cornerback depth, and I 173 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 4: think you are talking about Isaiah Bolden or maybe even 174 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: moving Jalen Mills back the corner because they don't have 175 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: much size if that's if he's not in there, and 176 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: I know he's not the biggest guy, but He's at 177 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: least five eleven six foot, so's a little bit bigger 178 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 4: than a Jonathan Jones or Marcus Jones. And those two 179 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 4: guys being on the field a lot with five eight, 180 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 4: five nine corners all over the place, and Miles Bryant's 181 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 4: a smaller guy too. So I look at Isaiah Bolden 182 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 4: and see a much bigger guy, a guy that can 183 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 4: really run four to three speed. He can return kickoffs, 184 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 4: play on special teams. You know, a couple of different 185 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: things there that he can do to make himself valuable 186 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: as a fifth corner. I thought the best play that 187 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: he's had in camp was punching the ball out from 188 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 4: Devonte Parker. I think that was yesterday or the day 189 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 4: before Thursday or Wednesday, and you know, just one of 190 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 4: those late punchouts where Parker looked like he caught it 191 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 4: and then he went to go bring it down and 192 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 4: Bolden punched it out and forced the incompletion. So he's 193 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 4: made some plays. He's played a little bit with the 194 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: with the high end twos. I wouldn't call it ones, 195 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: but high end twos. And we'll see what happens with 196 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 4: Isaiah Bolden. 197 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and those two guys him and speed a mere 198 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: speed great, Uh, you know, projections to special teamers with 199 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: their with their just their measurables, uh, and obvious athleticism. 200 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: So that's gonna do it for tonight. Uh, Mike, you 201 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: put the preview on it. Sunday, they'll be back at it, 202 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: uh with practice at one o'clock. It's supposed to be 203 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: now Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and that'll put it into the 204 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: public portion of training camp. So it's amazing how quickly 205 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: these days go. But that's day nine. The books