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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast, presented by by Star Credit

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Speaker 1: Union with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. This week's guest,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about if somebody. I don't think Jaguars fans

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Speaker 1: know that well yet he's relatively new to the team,

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Speaker 1: uh signed in March, has a fascinating story that some

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Speaker 1: people may know a little bit about. We'll try to

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Speaker 1: dig in a little more. The first of all, Chris

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Speaker 1: man Hurts, Jaguars tight end. Welcome in to the ozone Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys for having me absolutely looking forward to

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Speaker 1: it obviously, Chris, I know you've talked about your story

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Speaker 1: a whole lot, But what I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: first is I keep hearing that Chris man Hurts is

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Speaker 1: a blocking tight end. And yet when I walk out

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Speaker 1: of the practice field and watch your practice, when I

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Speaker 1: see games, I keep seeing you catching. I keep seeing

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Speaker 1: you catch the ball. Uh what are you? Are you

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Speaker 1: blocking tight end or receiving tight end? And period? I

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Speaker 1: would like to think that I'm able and capable to

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Speaker 1: do both, but um, you know, I try not to.

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Speaker 1: You know, feed into the labels and and and boxing

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Speaker 1: yourself and into being one dimensional. So those are both

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Speaker 1: parts of my game that you know I take pride

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Speaker 1: when they come. Now, all joking aside. You know I've

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Speaker 1: written it, other people right about it. It's always blocking

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Speaker 1: tight in with you at some point does that irritation

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Speaker 1: and say, hey man, I can catch the ball at

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Speaker 1: this point. No. Um, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: so happened to be something that I do a lot

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Speaker 1: um But I don't for once want to want to

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Speaker 1: get it twisted with myself and like I said, boxing

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Speaker 1: myself in and and seeing myself as a one dimensional player.

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Speaker 1: Now your story, I'm gonna repeat it a little bit

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Speaker 1: for people who don't know, and I'll try to hit

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Speaker 1: the high points. And there's a lot more to it.

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Speaker 1: Played it kin easiest, played basketball, didn't really have any

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Speaker 1: thought of the NFL, and then Buffalo Bills brought you

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Speaker 1: in for a tryout. You didn't try it out with

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Speaker 1: the Saints made it and then since then you've been

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Speaker 1: in the league. But if the fascinating thing is is

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Speaker 1: your first tryout. Never. Never. My first time putting on

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Speaker 1: pads and hearing horns and the ebbs and flows of

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Speaker 1: try out and then had to sort of train yourself

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Speaker 1: that phase of your story a little bit. Yeah, especially

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Speaker 1: coming straight off the hardwood. You know, I had to

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Speaker 1: right things, and you know, training specifically for football. Um.

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Speaker 1: Obviously both sports will require a lot of athleticism between

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Speaker 1: football and basketball, but football was a different type of

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Speaker 1: training for me, something very new. Um. Just learning the

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Speaker 1: that was probably the most difficult thing. Um. But over time,

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Speaker 1: you just wrap it, you know, you can keep sticking

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Speaker 1: for you. Now here's what's fascinating to me yet and

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Speaker 1: some people who fall the league don't really realize. But

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Speaker 1: not like you can go off in March and block

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Speaker 1: somebody in pads. So when did you actually learn how

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Speaker 1: human beings. Right, Yeah, that is correct. And it was

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Speaker 1: that relationship developed? I'm great friends with uh, one of

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Speaker 1: helping out whenever he could was was of great value

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Speaker 1: for me long term. So is there ever a time now?

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Speaker 1: I don't even watch it anymore. I'm I'm fully invested

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Speaker 1: I did, you know, So do you miss it? I

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Speaker 1: mean you must have grown up pretty much all basketball, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, because I'm just so in golf and in

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Speaker 1: all growing up. No, no, did you know what teams were?

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Speaker 1: unique story out of this botch. Yeah, and I kind of, um,

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Speaker 1: themselves obviously tough games Sunday. Uh this week, how is

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Speaker 1: and um, it's always something to work towards. Hey, Chris,

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Speaker 1: ozone five five five quick questions. It's all fun stuff,

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Speaker 1: very quick. What's your last binge watch? Wow, House of

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Speaker 1: Cards when you watch I just recently, uh Mark before

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Speaker 1: It's pretty obvious question for you. It's not football what sport?

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Speaker 1: I assume basketball basketball got you because that was so obvious.

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Speaker 1: You were ready for that one every morning. Final thing,

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Speaker 1: being you? My parents? I have to Yeah, I have

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Speaker 1: to credit it to my parents. I mean that's where

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Speaker 1: I credited a lot of where I'm I'm at today

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Speaker 1: because of them. What's your son's name? Chris Jr? Changes everything? Then?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, it's amazing. It really does Chris Man hurts.

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Speaker 1: I knew I would enjoy this. I was looking forward

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Speaker 1: to it. Fantastic job today. I look forward to working

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Speaker 1: with you down the road. And thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: the ozone podcast today. It's appreciate it. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: for having me on. Thanks buddy, Take care, sh