WEBVTT - Draft Show_2_27.mp3 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:09.120 Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:12.880 for inseter news and draft analysis from deep within the 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:17.439 confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star INFRASCOO and now 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.680 your host, Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.840 Today is Thursday February twenty seventh, twenty twenty five, and 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:30.960 we are fifty six days away from the NFL Draft 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:34.479 in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Welcome into the Draft Show, presented 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.120 by Miller Light, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.519 As again, it is NFL Combine Week. We've got everyone 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.159 spread out throughout the country. We have voch Lombardi and 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.880 we have Aisha Morrison. I'm Kyle Yeomans with Chris Beam 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.120 in the back. Is it stressing you out yet? 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:50.760 How many days? 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:51.559 That's I was about to know? 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.560 I was about to say, I was about to say, 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:54.320 you still know me? 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:54.840 Yep? 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:55.240 We had. 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.600 He turned around immediately and like gave me this side 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.160 eye because I was like fifty six days away the 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:01.080 first year, I. 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:04.360 Was like yeah, every time, like every time, so but 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:05.640 now it's not as stressful. 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:07.840 But before I was how many days? 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.120 Oh yeah, we're closing in on that. 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.240 That's a lot of time though there's. 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.560 A lot of time. I still got a lot of 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:15.600 players to because. 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.679 It's technically February still, so like in my mind, I 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.720 feel like we you know, we got a little you know, 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.520 minute to do this now this April first, y'all, Like, 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:25.080 all right, y'all in four weeks and you know, then 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.280 we're gonna start to close, you know, shake our heads 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.560 a little bit. But man, man, we got February and Marchman, 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:29.920 we're good. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.240 Ye have time and obviously, like we've been seeing some 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.679 of the names come down that aren't going to be performing, 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.119 not gonna be you know, working out. This is the time, 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.280 like Combine Singer Bowl, this is the time to gain information, 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:41.880 whether it's negative or positive. 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.479 For the first overall pick, we need to go back 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.240 and watch some Travis Hunter films somewhere. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:52.480 Hey grow So okay, enlightening me and enlighten those. That 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:54.560 is a report that is out there right now. 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.920 Yeah. Man, So allegedly Florio and the Characters, I'll go 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.400 ahead and put this up on my twiteter machine. Apparently 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.480 Florido and the Boys was on one O five three 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.440 the fan and boy you could tell when something happens 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.920 because everybody started to text you immediately or whatever, and 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:10.840 it was all like, uh, let's see. And this is 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:15.800 from rj Ochoa on Twitter shotside our archij Mike Florio 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:17.880 on one O five three to the Fan on Thursday 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:21.360 morning at the NFL combind I did hear yesterday. You 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.680 hear all sorts of stuff. And I don't like to 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.680 traffic in stuff because you never know what it's accurate. 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:31.400 But but let me say it nonetheless. 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.640 But I did have someone else, but I did have 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.200 someone tell me that the Cowboys have talked to the 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.600 Titans about moving up to number one. And I'm just like, 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.600 man like, like, what are we doing here? Man? What 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:45.400 do we do? You know? You know some of these 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.840 other reports. Oh, I heard that the Falcons are interested 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.840 in Michael Parsons. Of course he's one of the best players. Yeah, 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.360 we should all be interested in all these I just 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.239 think we need you know, this is the time where 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.440 where it clicks happen, you know, and everybody's on the 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.679 inter They're trying to google the their favorite player and 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:01.560 the team just to you know, get somebody to click 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.000 their little website. I'm not accusing anybody of lying. 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:08.200 Uh, somebody out there is probably lying. 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.600 I can tell how y'all word tweets that y'all don't 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.000 have any honor man, So you know I can say 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:14.640 that is on work here. I can tell how y'all 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.600 words your messages. But it is when we are not 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:18.520 moving up the first overall, the Cowboys gonna do what 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.760 they're likely always up done. They're gonna sit in there 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:22.520 and they're gonna make a pick at twelve or somebody's 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:24.360 gonna call up and they're gonna move back. You're not 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.760 moving up to the first overall to give up a 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.600 ransom when your team needs everything. It don't make sense. 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:30.640 It's funny. 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:32.800 It was funny because when I seen it, I'm like, 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.440 they don't know that Cowboys nation knows that this is 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.840 not how the cowboys you like. That's that's like the 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:43.240 biggest thing is like y'all can't gas like us. We 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.880 we literally get gas lit on a regular basis. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.400 We know when somebody is BS and us. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:54.600 So, yeah, it is lying season. It is official. It's 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.200 the end of February. 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:01.960 Said, I don't know if somebody there somebody there. That's 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.120 the thing is whenever you go to the combine and 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.320 Florida's right, and he did head his bets by saying 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:11.640 this in the fact that he has no idea whether 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.600 it's true or not. Yeah, correct, you don't know if 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.599 it's true or not. Say this one is, yeah, but 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:18.479 he's still gonna say it. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:19.360 He's gonna get the clicks. 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.000 He was probably having a drink with somebody at Kilroy's 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.200 or Prime forty seven or whatever it ends up being, 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.719 and then ends up getting a little bit of a 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:27.359 scoop out of it. 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.440 But that's how it works in the NFL combine. 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.880 You get an opportunity to take it and you make 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.120 the report out of it. If you're thinking Travis Hunter 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.039 at number one, that's not happening. 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:37.479 It's not for the Cowboys. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.520 I think nomenclature is important, like the words they use 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.880 and how they say s those Right. If you read 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.320 this tweet and you know Cowboy fans just like you said, 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.200 we should be used to this sensational type tweeting or whatever. Right, 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.440 but just read what they say. Oh, the Cowboys have 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.320 interest in Mason Graham. I bet they do. Sure, I 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:56.919 bet they do. 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.720 But that doesn't anybody with eyes in a football brand. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.160 That doesn't mean that we're making steps toward moving forward 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.599 or whatever. For example, right, and we can get into this. 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:09.440 This wasn't on our rundown. Hey, we're just talking. I 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.800 had this firm belief and I tweeted this yesterday. I 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.560 don't want to care about the names that are coming out. 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.119 I know we're gonna talk about the listeners. I don't 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.280 want to care about that because I feel like the 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.120 last two years, all the rumors and collective thought that 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.520 we had as a media group or whatever, I think 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.640 the Cowboys didn't go nowhere near that that range whatever. 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.360 For example, right, we looked at all the running backs 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.080 last year, they talked to all the running backs. 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.320 I'm about to cry, and they just kind. 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.680 Of all we just passed on them, right. And I 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:44.840 remember Jared Wayne Johnston. Oh this is Jonathan Brooks. Boy, y'all, 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.280 y'all remember us. I wasn't here, y'all was on here, 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.400 but I was at GRIP watching, y'all. Jonathan Brooks gotta 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.160 be the pick in the second round. 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:54.760 But that was several reasons why we thought it would be. 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:59.760 Michael Mayer was another years ago. And I'm just up here, 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.760 like we are letting people. It's not like they take 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.039 these players prior to us getting we're on the board, 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:08.600 and it's like, we don't even care about Michael Mayor 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.760 and Jonathan Brooks being there. So when I hear people say, oh, yeah, 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.440 Vitch the Cowboys are talking to Michael Williams, say why 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.680 does that make you feel? They just want to ask 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:18.880 them about Georgia culture, and then they may want to 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:20.839 ask about the teammate. They want to know, like, hey, 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:23.640 you know what I'm saying, just all the things that 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:25.839 coaches in them care about. But that doesn't mean anything. 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.560 Nothing matters till we get to April twenty whatever so 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.760 and fifty some days and it actually happens. I'm not 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:33.719 going to lean into interviews and take too much from it. 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:37.440 I saw Nick Harris interacting with somebody on Twitter. I 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.560 can't remember who exactly the account was, but it was 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.120 the initial tweet was so spot on him. It's like, Okay, 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:49.799 thirty visits are are the real tell. So thirty visits 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.240 where you're really bringing in a player and you're really 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:56.440 doing your homework. These combine visits and formal meetings and 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.880 whatever it ends up being. They're important just to build 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.440 context and know that there's been communication established. 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:03.440 But that's really about it. 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.760 There's been a communication established, they bring them in, they 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:08.719 put sit them down, they'll probably show them a little 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.360 bit of film. But there's forty five names and they're 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.600 going to talk to and that doesn't even count the 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.480 informal interviews, which that will actually grow to close to 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.840 two hundred names, just because it's kind of like a 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:20.760 speed dating thing. And they put them in a big 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.440 conference room out there in Indianapolis and they have all 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.000 these tables set up and they go and talk to 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.040 every team. That's the informal the formals where they come in, 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.240 sit you down in front of everybody, put you in 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.000 front of the telestrader, will make you look at some film, 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.560 ask a couple questions, and it's usually ten minutes and. 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:36.320 Get out of there. 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:40.600 So, yeah, it's an interesting thing to talk about, and 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:42.520 like you said, we've got to talk about it just 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.240 because the list is now there, and it does give 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.080 us an opportunity to say some names that cowboys have 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.320 met with. But when it comes to really building your 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.080 board and saying the Cowboys are interested in this player 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:54.880 right here, don't put a ton of. 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:59.280 Stock into the NFL Combine visit list. Thirty day thirty 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:00.080 days a little bit more. 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.360 So thirty day visits, like you were saying, Kyle, and 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:03.680 also to Dallas Day. 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.000 Dallas Day is more important, Dallas Day and Senior Bowl 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:06.760 is way more important. 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.840 And only with Dallas Day, not necessarily that they just 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.280 take people there, but there's familiarity there. 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.040 Oh, and there's no cap on the limit of players 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:15.360 you can absolutely yeah. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:16.440 The only cap is. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:20.840 The radius from around the star, from around your team's 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.640 practice facility. You can take players that either played in 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.440 college here or in high school here, and so you 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.480 can take as many of those players as you want 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.640 and bring them in for an entire visit, just like 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:32.360 a thirty visit, And a lot of those names will 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.080 be confused with thirty visit. 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.400 Names, but they won't count towards the thirty visit list. 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:38.760 So there's that kind of back and forth that you'll 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.480 have in that process as well, that you still have 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.560 to sift through even when that time comes too. 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.400 Do you think that these names that come out on 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.800 these lists do you think that there's some gamesmanship there, like, Oh, 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:52.480 I'm trying to throw y'all off the sand. We don't 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.360 really care about this position group at all. I don't 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:56.840 care about this player at all. But I just want 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.160 y'all to think that this may be somebody that is 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.960 so out of just sold players. We really want to 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.160 talk to twenty of them, but these other ten. I 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:05.520 just wanted to throw y'all off the said, do y'all 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.000 think that's really absolutely yeah. 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.360 I mean even when you talk about like them meeting 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.200 with people, like Kyle was saying, like, it's not they're 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:14.000 meeting with all these people, doesn't mean the he's gonna 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.320 come from it. However, you can look within the context 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.320 and be like, I mean, looking at the list that 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.280 came out yesterday is like, all right, there is no 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:22.000 mistake here. 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:22.600 They know that. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.520 DT is like actually a need. Sure, that's fine, I'm 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.600 cool with that. I think there is some context in 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.760 there that maybe you can't take too seriously. But I 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.280 still added to my notes as like, Okay, maybe this 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:33.520 is something they're really looking at. 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:35.760 That's a great point because if you look at the 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.440 amount of players they look at in certain positions, usually 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.240 at the Combine, it's been a couple of years since 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.240 they've actually met with a quarterback at the combine. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:43.840 So haven't done that. 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.120 Now, don't be surprised if you see a quarterback on 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.840 the thirty visit list, because they'll bring in guys that 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.360 they may have no interest in drafting, but just to 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.400 have an idea. Remember, Jalen Hurts, even though it was 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.480 a virtual visit back in twenty twenty because of the 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:01.360 COVID pandemic, he was a vig a thirty visit. And 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.800 a lot of that is the gamemanship that you're talking about. 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:05.840 You're going to bring in a guy even though you 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.080 know that you're probably not going to draft a guy, 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.840 like at that point, Jalen Hurts, you at least have 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.080 that in the back of your head of Okay, it's 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.480 kind of become available later down the line. Do we 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.320 have to have some level of baseline of communication and 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.360 relationship there or if he's an opponent and he ends 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.400 up in your division, you kind of know some of 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.000 the things about him on the back end too that 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.000 will help you from a gap a gamesmanship standpoint. 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.120 Were you alluding to some gamesmanship from maybe like the 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.840 agents and stuff as well, Like when you talk about Twitter, 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.120 you talk about people tweeting out like oh this guy 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.520 meant with this guy whatever, just kind of putting some 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.440 smoke into their room or is that Is that what 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.400 you're alluding to too, or I'm asking. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.240 I didn't have an example in particular, but I can 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:48.000 imagine that. Let's say that we're some trade back, you know, 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.920 type of deal or whatever. Right, Oh, we love Jackson Darton. 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:54.040 We'll take him at twelve just to see if anybody 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.160 would you know, would hear from you, or just to 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.520 just you know, just to just to Oh, the Cowboys 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.000 are they really interested in court? Because that whole drafting 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.000 Jalen hurts thing. While Dak was here, that was the thing, 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:04.680 Like people talked about this for a little bit, right 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:05.559 the Cowboys. 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.000 And it was a conversation, but wasn't really a conversation. 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.440 You know, it probably wasn't really so so really, I 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.520 just think that they're just trying to muddy the waters 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:17.280 a little bit. And you know, I see these lists 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.760 and I'm glad because on content guy, I'm YouTube guy, 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:21.760 you know Vashonal Barty by the way, I'm glad. I'm 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.880 glad to have stuff to talk about in February, March 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:27.200 and April. Man, let's just keep it a buck here, man. 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.480 There's plenty times we get to draft day and be like, man, 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.120 we didn't even talk to this guy, but we drafted 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.280 them in the third round. Cool, bet, let's talk about him. 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.480 Yeah, there's a couple of those guys will pop up, 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:40.040 and there'd probably be a third of the guys that 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.319 you do draft, Especially in a draft like this where 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.440 you have multiple picks in the back end, you're not 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.000 going to talk to all those fifth, sixth, seventh round guys, 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:48.720 and you really you shouldn't. 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.040 At that point, trust the film, go get a guy. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.719 What if they only talk to linebackers to ask them 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:57.400 who the best running backs are? That's fire. That's that's 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:58.440 for the chest right there. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:11:59.960 So let's take a look at some of the last 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:04.880 then and these linebackers. So Shamar James Florida, Jeffrey Bossa Oregon, 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:06.839 who we've talked about on this show a couple of times. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:08.880 He was a standout at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, I 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.240 really liked him at the Senior Bowl. Carson Schwessinger from 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:17.160 U C l A, Danny Stutsman from Oklahoma, and Barrett Carter, 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.800 who I really like out of Clemson as well. Those 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:21.280 are the guys that they've talked to out of the 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:24.200 linebacker room. Any of those kind of stick out and hey, yeah, 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:29.000 you're talking to an Oregon linebacker. They played Boise State, man, like, yeah, 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.880 what do you know about genty? How was that preparation? 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:34.839 How is it getting run for for one hundred and 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:36.960 seventy four yards over the top of the course of 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:37.280 that game. 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.080 I'm sure they have plenty to say, even the down 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:41.800 lineman is Safety's got a lot of stuff at Old 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:45.920 Ashton there. But what I've just learned about linebacker just 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.160 watching the linebacker trying to figure it all out here. 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:52.160 I think if it's not the first three or four guys, 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:57.800 if it's not Campbell, Swesssinger or Stutsman, you know, if 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:59.760 it is not one of those you know night, maybe 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:01.960 I think they're going to be like day day three 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:03.440 type of guys. And I think if you're looking at 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:05.760 day three linebacker type guys, especially in this group, this 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.520 group ain't thick at all. If I show you my 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.240 edges and my you know, tackles on offense and defense 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.000 or whatever, you're gonna see a lot of names right 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:14.600 in at round one, two and three. But I think 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.720 linebackers there's like a big three and a big everybody 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.480 else way down the Day three there that are most 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:21.560 likely going to be like, I. 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.720 Have one first round grade at linebacker and it's Jayalen Walker. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.720 What I didn't name because I don't think he's a linebacker. 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:32.120 I'm just bringing it up. What is what is Jalen Carter? 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:37.600 I mean Jayalen Walker, Jaalen Walker. It's a thousand, It's 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.480 a thousand Jalens and Tylers coming up? I usually, what 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:41.840 is what is Jalen Walker? To you? 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.080 A linebacker? That compassion? 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:44.760 There you go? 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.040 Does he cover well? Does he move backwards well? Does 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:48.920 he flip and do all the sideways things? 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:49.120 Well? 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:50.080 Why we gotta do this? 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.520 I guess huh hold ex time, huh. 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:53.480 Necessarily. 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.360 So he's more of like a like an edge. He 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:57.679 just stand up sometimes, right. 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:57.960 See. 0:13:57.960 --> 0:13:59.800 But that's the thing that you were just talking about 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.160 with the linebackers. One thing that I was looking at 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.840 last night and noticing and even you know, watching like 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.680 watching some of these guys, was coverage ability is something 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.520 that these guys are almost having to have now. And 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.440 so when you talk about a Beart Carter out of Clemson, 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.720 it's like, Okay, I like the authority he plays with. 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:19.840 Obviously he's a heavy hitter, but this is a guy 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.320 that did line up in the slot, like, he can 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.000 do that too. So it's like, I think now that 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.920 cover is becoming as important as it is that guys 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.960 are losing points if they can't cover as well. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:31.360 As the other guys. 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.200 Because I remember the senior role. That's what everyone was 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:36.720 impressed with. The linebackers that could cover. The linebackers that 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.840 could literally carry the receivers down down the field. 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:41.040 That's a new thing. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.320 Man Carter specifically has that change of direction. 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:45.840 Yes, oh absolutely, we do. 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:47.840 Tell me a little bit more about what you've seen 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.440 from him, because I thought he's got You. 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:51.280 Could see the IQ. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.360 You can see how he reads the offense, how he 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.440 reads motion and is able to kind of maneuver around it. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.520 His size is significant. I think there's a lot of 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:05.280 smaller linebackers. Yes, class heavy linebackers, athletic linebackers, but they're 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:06.800 small frame, but they're tiny. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.720 But that's also too to me because of the demand 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:11.600 to be able to pass rush, because the one thing 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.280 that Carter can do is rush the pastor he has 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:15.040 He shows. 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.760 Some blitzen ability and things like that. 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:18.640 So but one thing I will say is that it 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.960 seems like people weren't super impressed with him this This 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:22.640 season sounds like I. 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.440 Wasn't who is this Yes, Barrett Carter, Barreck Carter. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.760 People were a little down on the twenty twenty four 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:32.320 season he had as opposed to the year prior. I 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.400 mean I glanced at him a little bit and that 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.800 was seemed like it was some uncertainty there and things 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.560 like that. But then you watch him at the watch 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.200 him at the Singer Bowl, You watch him moving around, 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:42.880 You're like, Okay, what was it the shrine? 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:43.880 I keep getting the mixed up. 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.600 But oh, don't let Jim hear me say that he's 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:54.040 not there. He's trying to let me get Yeah, but 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.920 but no, I think that this is that's why we 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.840 have the combine, because this guy, you're gonna be looking 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:00.760 at how he tests. 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.680 I feel like he's gonna run fast, obviously that's his thing. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.520 But like people are looking at this is what the 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.440 combine is for, is like, hey, did you you had 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.120 a down year the year before? 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.680 What you got? So I can kind of marry that. 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.480 To the film I seen about you previously and be 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.520 able to say, Okay, this is what he really is 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:15.840 for real. 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.840 I've been watching Carter since like twenty twenty two. We 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:19.560 just keep watching them. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:21.760 I he was a five star guy. 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.240 Yeah, he he took a step from his freshman year 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.080 to his sophomore year. So and he took another step 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.360 from his sophomore year to his junior year. His senior year, 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.880 and I thought his senior year was comparable to his 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:32.760 junior year, and I think that might be worth some 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:33.920 of that disappointment lies. 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:36.000 I think he just like a lot of guys in 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.240 this little range, and we can, you know, talk about 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:39.960 where you got some of these guys ranked or whatnot. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.320 I think he's a fantastic moving forward guy. I think 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:48.600 he's a fantastic athletic guy. I think the diagnosis is 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:50.280