Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room
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Speaker 1: your host, Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 2: Today is Thursday February twenty seventh, twenty twenty five, and
Speaker 2: we are fifty six days away from the NFL Draft
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Speaker 2: As again, it is NFL Combine Week. We've got everyone
Speaker 2: spread out throughout the country. We have voch Lombardi and
Speaker 2: we have Aisha Morrison. I'm Kyle Yeomans with Chris Beam
Speaker 2: in the back. Is it stressing you out yet?
Speaker 3: How many days?
Speaker 4: That's I was about to know?
Speaker 3: I was about to say, I was about to say,
Speaker 3: you still know me?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 6: We had.
Speaker 4: He turned around immediately and like gave me this side
Speaker 4: eye because I was like fifty six days away the
Speaker 4: first year, I.
Speaker 7: Was like yeah, every time, like every time, so but
Speaker 7: now it's not as stressful.
Speaker 3: But before I was how many days?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're closing in on that.
Speaker 5: That's a lot of time though there's.
Speaker 3: A lot of time. I still got a lot of
Speaker 3: players to because.
Speaker 5: It's technically February still, so like in my mind, I
Speaker 5: feel like we you know, we got a little you know,
Speaker 5: minute to do this now this April first, y'all, Like,
Speaker 5: all right, y'all in four weeks and you know, then
Speaker 5: we're gonna start to close, you know, shake our heads
Speaker 5: a little bit. But man, man, we got February and Marchman,
Speaker 5: we're good.
Speaker 7: Ye have time and obviously, like we've been seeing some
Speaker 7: of the names come down that aren't going to be performing,
Speaker 7: not gonna be you know, working out. This is the time,
Speaker 7: like Combine Singer Bowl, this is the time to gain information,
Speaker 7: whether it's negative or positive.
Speaker 5: For the first overall pick, we need to go back
Speaker 5: and watch some Travis Hunter films somewhere.
Speaker 2: Hey grow So okay, enlightening me and enlighten those. That
Speaker 2: is a report that is out there right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Man, So allegedly Florio and the Characters, I'll go
Speaker 5: ahead and put this up on my twiteter machine. Apparently
Speaker 5: Florido and the Boys was on one O five three
Speaker 5: the fan and boy you could tell when something happens
Speaker 5: because everybody started to text you immediately or whatever, and
Speaker 5: it was all like, uh, let's see. And this is
Speaker 5: from rj Ochoa on Twitter shotside our archij Mike Florio
Speaker 5: on one O five three to the Fan on Thursday
Speaker 5: morning at the NFL combind I did hear yesterday. You
Speaker 5: hear all sorts of stuff. And I don't like to
Speaker 5: traffic in stuff because you never know what it's accurate.
Speaker 2: But but let me say it nonetheless.
Speaker 5: But I did have someone else, but I did have
Speaker 5: someone tell me that the Cowboys have talked to the
Speaker 5: Titans about moving up to number one. And I'm just like,
Speaker 5: man like, like, what are we doing here? Man? What
Speaker 5: do we do? You know? You know some of these
Speaker 5: other reports. Oh, I heard that the Falcons are interested
Speaker 5: in Michael Parsons. Of course he's one of the best players. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we should all be interested in all these I just
Speaker 5: think we need you know, this is the time where
Speaker 5: where it clicks happen, you know, and everybody's on the
Speaker 5: inter They're trying to google the their favorite player and
Speaker 5: the team just to you know, get somebody to click
Speaker 5: their little website. I'm not accusing anybody of lying.
Speaker 2: Uh, somebody out there is probably lying.
Speaker 5: I can tell how y'all word tweets that y'all don't
Speaker 5: have any honor man, So you know I can say
Speaker 5: that is on work here. I can tell how y'all
Speaker 5: words your messages. But it is when we are not
Speaker 5: moving up the first overall, the Cowboys gonna do what
Speaker 5: they're likely always up done. They're gonna sit in there
Speaker 5: and they're gonna make a pick at twelve or somebody's
Speaker 5: gonna call up and they're gonna move back. You're not
Speaker 5: moving up to the first overall to give up a
Speaker 5: ransom when your team needs everything. It don't make sense.
Speaker 3: It's funny.
Speaker 7: It was funny because when I seen it, I'm like,
Speaker 7: they don't know that Cowboys nation knows that this is
Speaker 7: not how the cowboys you like. That's that's like the
Speaker 7: biggest thing is like y'all can't gas like us. We
Speaker 7: we literally get gas lit on a regular basis.
Speaker 3: We know when somebody is BS and us.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, it is lying season. It is official. It's
Speaker 4: the end of February.
Speaker 2: Said, I don't know if somebody there somebody there. That's
Speaker 2: the thing is whenever you go to the combine and
Speaker 2: Florida's right, and he did head his bets by saying
Speaker 2: this in the fact that he has no idea whether
Speaker 2: it's true or not. Yeah, correct, you don't know if
Speaker 2: it's true or not. Say this one is, yeah, but
Speaker 2: he's still gonna say it.
Speaker 4: He's gonna get the clicks.
Speaker 2: He was probably having a drink with somebody at Kilroy's
Speaker 2: or Prime forty seven or whatever it ends up being,
Speaker 2: and then ends up getting a little bit of a
Speaker 2: scoop out of it.
Speaker 4: But that's how it works in the NFL combine.
Speaker 2: You get an opportunity to take it and you make
Speaker 2: the report out of it. If you're thinking Travis Hunter
Speaker 2: at number one, that's not happening.
Speaker 4: It's not for the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: I think nomenclature is important, like the words they use
Speaker 5: and how they say s those Right. If you read
Speaker 5: this tweet and you know Cowboy fans just like you said,
Speaker 5: we should be used to this sensational type tweeting or whatever. Right,
Speaker 5: but just read what they say. Oh, the Cowboys have
Speaker 5: interest in Mason Graham. I bet they do. Sure, I
Speaker 5: bet they do.
Speaker 4: But that doesn't anybody with eyes in a football brand.
Speaker 5: That doesn't mean that we're making steps toward moving forward
Speaker 5: or whatever. For example, right, and we can get into this.
Speaker 5: This wasn't on our rundown. Hey, we're just talking. I
Speaker 5: had this firm belief and I tweeted this yesterday. I
Speaker 5: don't want to care about the names that are coming out.
Speaker 5: I know we're gonna talk about the listeners. I don't
Speaker 5: want to care about that because I feel like the
Speaker 5: last two years, all the rumors and collective thought that
Speaker 5: we had as a media group or whatever, I think
Speaker 5: the Cowboys didn't go nowhere near that that range whatever.
Speaker 5: For example, right, we looked at all the running backs
Speaker 5: last year, they talked to all the running backs.
Speaker 3: I'm about to cry, and they just kind.
Speaker 5: Of all we just passed on them, right. And I
Speaker 5: remember Jared Wayne Johnston. Oh this is Jonathan Brooks. Boy, y'all,
Speaker 5: y'all remember us. I wasn't here, y'all was on here,
Speaker 5: but I was at GRIP watching, y'all. Jonathan Brooks gotta
Speaker 5: be the pick in the second round.
Speaker 3: But that was several reasons why we thought it would be.
Speaker 5: Michael Mayer was another years ago. And I'm just up here,
Speaker 5: like we are letting people. It's not like they take
Speaker 5: these players prior to us getting we're on the board,
Speaker 5: and it's like, we don't even care about Michael Mayor
Speaker 5: and Jonathan Brooks being there. So when I hear people say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: Vitch the Cowboys are talking to Michael Williams, say why
Speaker 5: does that make you feel? They just want to ask
Speaker 5: them about Georgia culture, and then they may want to
Speaker 5: ask about the teammate. They want to know, like, hey,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, just all the things that
Speaker 5: coaches in them care about. But that doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 5: Nothing matters till we get to April twenty whatever so
Speaker 5: and fifty some days and it actually happens. I'm not
Speaker 5: going to lean into interviews and take too much from it.
Speaker 2: I saw Nick Harris interacting with somebody on Twitter. I
Speaker 2: can't remember who exactly the account was, but it was
Speaker 2: the initial tweet was so spot on him. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: thirty visits are are the real tell. So thirty visits
Speaker 2: where you're really bringing in a player and you're really
Speaker 2: doing your homework. These combine visits and formal meetings and
Speaker 2: whatever it ends up being. They're important just to build
Speaker 2: context and know that there's been communication established.
Speaker 4: But that's really about it.
Speaker 2: There's been a communication established, they bring them in, they
Speaker 2: put sit them down, they'll probably show them a little
Speaker 2: bit of film. But there's forty five names and they're
Speaker 2: going to talk to and that doesn't even count the
Speaker 2: informal interviews, which that will actually grow to close to
Speaker 2: two hundred names, just because it's kind of like a
Speaker 2: speed dating thing. And they put them in a big
Speaker 2: conference room out there in Indianapolis and they have all
Speaker 2: these tables set up and they go and talk to
Speaker 2: every team. That's the informal the formals where they come in,
Speaker 2: sit you down in front of everybody, put you in
Speaker 2: front of the telestrader, will make you look at some film,
Speaker 2: ask a couple questions, and it's usually ten minutes and.
Speaker 5: Get out of there.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's an interesting thing to talk about, and
Speaker 2: like you said, we've got to talk about it just
Speaker 2: because the list is now there, and it does give
Speaker 2: us an opportunity to say some names that cowboys have
Speaker 2: met with. But when it comes to really building your
Speaker 2: board and saying the Cowboys are interested in this player
Speaker 2: right here, don't put a ton of.
Speaker 4: Stock into the NFL Combine visit list. Thirty day thirty
Speaker 4: days a little bit more.
Speaker 7: So thirty day visits, like you were saying, Kyle, and
Speaker 7: also to Dallas Day.
Speaker 5: Dallas Day is more important, Dallas Day and Senior Bowl
Speaker 5: is way more important.
Speaker 7: And only with Dallas Day, not necessarily that they just
Speaker 7: take people there, but there's familiarity there.
Speaker 2: Oh, and there's no cap on the limit of players
Speaker 2: you can absolutely yeah.
Speaker 4: The only cap is.
Speaker 2: The radius from around the star, from around your team's
Speaker 2: practice facility. You can take players that either played in
Speaker 2: college here or in high school here, and so you
Speaker 2: can take as many of those players as you want
Speaker 2: and bring them in for an entire visit, just like
Speaker 2: a thirty visit, And a lot of those names will
Speaker 2: be confused with thirty visit.
Speaker 4: Names, but they won't count towards the thirty visit list.
Speaker 2: So there's that kind of back and forth that you'll
Speaker 2: have in that process as well, that you still have
Speaker 2: to sift through even when that time comes too.
Speaker 5: Do you think that these names that come out on
Speaker 5: these lists do you think that there's some gamesmanship there, like, Oh,
Speaker 5: I'm trying to throw y'all off the sand. We don't
Speaker 5: really care about this position group at all. I don't
Speaker 5: care about this player at all. But I just want
Speaker 5: y'all to think that this may be somebody that is
Speaker 5: so out of just sold players. We really want to
Speaker 5: talk to twenty of them, but these other ten. I
Speaker 5: just wanted to throw y'all off the said, do y'all
Speaker 5: think that's really absolutely yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean even when you talk about like them meeting
Speaker 7: with people, like Kyle was saying, like, it's not they're
Speaker 7: meeting with all these people, doesn't mean the he's gonna
Speaker 7: come from it. However, you can look within the context
Speaker 7: and be like, I mean, looking at the list that
Speaker 7: came out yesterday is like, all right, there is no
Speaker 7: mistake here.
Speaker 3: They know that.
Speaker 7: DT is like actually a need. Sure, that's fine, I'm
Speaker 7: cool with that. I think there is some context in
Speaker 7: there that maybe you can't take too seriously. But I
Speaker 7: still added to my notes as like, Okay, maybe this
Speaker 7: is something they're really looking at.
Speaker 2: That's a great point because if you look at the
Speaker 2: amount of players they look at in certain positions, usually
Speaker 2: at the Combine, it's been a couple of years since
Speaker 2: they've actually met with a quarterback at the combine.
Speaker 4: So haven't done that.
Speaker 2: Now, don't be surprised if you see a quarterback on
Speaker 2: the thirty visit list, because they'll bring in guys that
Speaker 2: they may have no interest in drafting, but just to
Speaker 2: have an idea. Remember, Jalen Hurts, even though it was
Speaker 2: a virtual visit back in twenty twenty because of the
Speaker 2: COVID pandemic, he was a vig a thirty visit. And
Speaker 2: a lot of that is the gamemanship that you're talking about.
Speaker 2: You're going to bring in a guy even though you
Speaker 2: know that you're probably not going to draft a guy,
Speaker 2: like at that point, Jalen Hurts, you at least have
Speaker 2: that in the back of your head of Okay, it's
Speaker 2: kind of become available later down the line. Do we
Speaker 2: have to have some level of baseline of communication and
Speaker 2: relationship there or if he's an opponent and he ends
Speaker 2: up in your division, you kind of know some of
Speaker 2: the things about him on the back end too that
Speaker 2: will help you from a gap a gamesmanship standpoint.
Speaker 7: Were you alluding to some gamesmanship from maybe like the
Speaker 7: agents and stuff as well, Like when you talk about Twitter,
Speaker 7: you talk about people tweeting out like oh this guy
Speaker 7: meant with this guy whatever, just kind of putting some
Speaker 7: smoke into their room or is that Is that what
Speaker 7: you're alluding to too, or I'm asking.
Speaker 5: I didn't have an example in particular, but I can
Speaker 5: imagine that. Let's say that we're some trade back, you know,
Speaker 5: type of deal or whatever. Right, Oh, we love Jackson Darton.
Speaker 5: We'll take him at twelve just to see if anybody
Speaker 5: would you know, would hear from you, or just to
Speaker 5: just you know, just to just to Oh, the Cowboys
Speaker 5: are they really interested in court? Because that whole drafting
Speaker 5: Jalen hurts thing. While Dak was here, that was the thing,
Speaker 5: Like people talked about this for a little bit, right
Speaker 5: the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: And it was a conversation, but wasn't really a conversation.
Speaker 5: You know, it probably wasn't really so so really, I
Speaker 5: just think that they're just trying to muddy the waters
Speaker 5: a little bit. And you know, I see these lists
Speaker 5: and I'm glad because on content guy, I'm YouTube guy,
Speaker 5: you know Vashonal Barty by the way, I'm glad. I'm
Speaker 5: glad to have stuff to talk about in February, March
Speaker 5: and April. Man, let's just keep it a buck here, man.
Speaker 5: There's plenty times we get to draft day and be like, man,
Speaker 5: we didn't even talk to this guy, but we drafted
Speaker 5: them in the third round. Cool, bet, let's talk about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of those guys will pop up,
Speaker 2: and there'd probably be a third of the guys that
Speaker 2: you do draft, Especially in a draft like this where
Speaker 2: you have multiple picks in the back end, you're not
Speaker 2: going to talk to all those fifth, sixth, seventh round guys,
Speaker 2: and you really you shouldn't.
Speaker 4: At that point, trust the film, go get a guy.
Speaker 5: What if they only talk to linebackers to ask them
Speaker 5: who the best running backs are? That's fire. That's that's
Speaker 5: for the chest right there.
Speaker 2: So let's take a look at some of the last
Speaker 2: then and these linebackers. So Shamar James Florida, Jeffrey Bossa Oregon,
Speaker 2: who we've talked about on this show a couple of times.
Speaker 2: He was a standout at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: really liked him at the Senior Bowl. Carson Schwessinger from
Speaker 2: U C l A, Danny Stutsman from Oklahoma, and Barrett Carter,
Speaker 2: who I really like out of Clemson as well. Those
Speaker 2: are the guys that they've talked to out of the
Speaker 2: linebacker room. Any of those kind of stick out and hey, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're talking to an Oregon linebacker. They played Boise State, man, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you know about genty? How was that preparation?
Speaker 2: How is it getting run for for one hundred and
Speaker 2: seventy four yards over the top of the course of
Speaker 2: that game.
Speaker 5: I'm sure they have plenty to say, even the down
Speaker 5: lineman is Safety's got a lot of stuff at Old
Speaker 5: Ashton there. But what I've just learned about linebacker just
Speaker 5: watching the linebacker trying to figure it all out here.
Speaker 5: I think if it's not the first three or four guys,
Speaker 5: if it's not Campbell, Swesssinger or Stutsman, you know, if
Speaker 5: it is not one of those you know night, maybe
Speaker 5: I think they're going to be like day day three
Speaker 5: type of guys. And I think if you're looking at
Speaker 5: day three linebacker type guys, especially in this group, this
Speaker 5: group ain't thick at all. If I show you my
Speaker 5: edges and my you know, tackles on offense and defense
Speaker 5: or whatever, you're gonna see a lot of names right
Speaker 5: in at round one, two and three. But I think
Speaker 5: linebackers there's like a big three and a big everybody
Speaker 5: else way down the Day three there that are most
Speaker 5: likely going to be like, I.
Speaker 2: Have one first round grade at linebacker and it's Jayalen Walker.
Speaker 5: What I didn't name because I don't think he's a linebacker.
Speaker 5: I'm just bringing it up. What is what is Jalen Carter?
Speaker 5: I mean Jayalen Walker, Jaalen Walker. It's a thousand, It's
Speaker 5: a thousand Jalens and Tylers coming up? I usually, what
Speaker 5: is what is Jalen Walker? To you?
Speaker 3: A linebacker? That compassion?
Speaker 4: There you go?
Speaker 5: Does he cover well? Does he move backwards well? Does
Speaker 5: he flip and do all the sideways things?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 4: Why we gotta do this?
Speaker 5: I guess huh hold ex time, huh.
Speaker 3: Necessarily.
Speaker 5: So he's more of like a like an edge. He
Speaker 5: just stand up sometimes, right.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 7: But that's the thing that you were just talking about
Speaker 7: with the linebackers. One thing that I was looking at
Speaker 7: last night and noticing and even you know, watching like
Speaker 7: watching some of these guys, was coverage ability is something
Speaker 7: that these guys are almost having to have now. And
Speaker 7: so when you talk about a Beart Carter out of Clemson,
Speaker 7: it's like, Okay, I like the authority he plays with.
Speaker 7: Obviously he's a heavy hitter, but this is a guy
Speaker 7: that did line up in the slot, like, he can
Speaker 7: do that too. So it's like, I think now that
Speaker 7: cover is becoming as important as it is that guys
Speaker 7: are losing points if they can't cover as well.
Speaker 3: As the other guys.
Speaker 7: Because I remember the senior role. That's what everyone was
Speaker 7: impressed with. The linebackers that could cover. The linebackers that
Speaker 7: could literally carry the receivers down down the field.
Speaker 3: That's a new thing.
Speaker 4: Man Carter specifically has that change of direction.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh absolutely, we do.
Speaker 2: Tell me a little bit more about what you've seen
Speaker 2: from him, because I thought he's got You.
Speaker 4: Could see the IQ.
Speaker 2: You can see how he reads the offense, how he
Speaker 2: reads motion and is able to kind of maneuver around it.
Speaker 2: His size is significant. I think there's a lot of
Speaker 2: smaller linebackers. Yes, class heavy linebackers, athletic linebackers, but they're
Speaker 2: small frame, but they're tiny.
Speaker 7: But that's also too to me because of the demand
Speaker 7: to be able to pass rush, because the one thing
Speaker 7: that Carter can do is rush the pastor he has
Speaker 7: He shows.
Speaker 3: Some blitzen ability and things like that.
Speaker 7: So but one thing I will say is that it
Speaker 7: seems like people weren't super impressed with him this This
Speaker 7: season sounds like I.
Speaker 3: Wasn't who is this Yes, Barrett Carter, Barreck Carter.
Speaker 7: People were a little down on the twenty twenty four
Speaker 7: season he had as opposed to the year prior. I
Speaker 7: mean I glanced at him a little bit and that
Speaker 7: was seemed like it was some uncertainty there and things
Speaker 7: like that. But then you watch him at the watch
Speaker 7: him at the Singer Bowl, You watch him moving around,
Speaker 7: You're like, Okay, what was it the shrine?
Speaker 3: I keep getting the mixed up.
Speaker 9: But oh, don't let Jim hear me say that he's
Speaker 9: not there. He's trying to let me get Yeah, but
Speaker 9: but no, I think that this is that's why we
Speaker 9: have the combine, because this guy, you're gonna be looking
Speaker 9: at how he tests.
Speaker 7: I feel like he's gonna run fast, obviously that's his thing.
Speaker 7: But like people are looking at this is what the
Speaker 7: combine is for, is like, hey, did you you had
Speaker 7: a down year the year before?
Speaker 3: What you got? So I can kind of marry that.
Speaker 7: To the film I seen about you previously and be
Speaker 7: able to say, Okay, this is what he really is
Speaker 7: for real.
Speaker 5: I've been watching Carter since like twenty twenty two. We
Speaker 5: just keep watching them.
Speaker 4: I he was a five star guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he he took a step from his freshman year
Speaker 2: to his sophomore year. So and he took another step
Speaker 2: from his sophomore year to his junior year. His senior year,
Speaker 2: and I thought his senior year was comparable to his
Speaker 2: junior year, and I think that might be worth some
Speaker 2: of that disappointment lies.
Speaker 5: I think he just like a lot of guys in
Speaker 5: this little range, and we can, you know, talk about
Speaker 5: where you got some of these guys ranked or whatnot.
Speaker 5: I think he's a fantastic moving forward guy. I think
Speaker 5: he's a fantastic athletic guy. I think the diagnosis is
Speaker 5: kind of going to get him in trouble a little. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he is him. I think he guesses, and I think
Speaker 5: that's worse. Like if you're a guy that you may
Speaker 5: not see it as fast, but once you see it,
Speaker 5: you get there. Yeah. I can kind of live with that.
Speaker 5: I don't. Don't you guessing, because if you guess and
Speaker 5: go to wrong Dan Wade, and now you way over
Speaker 5: there and the league is only going to get faster
Speaker 5: in that. I thought I thought Carter did that a bunch.
Speaker 5: But you know, when you get to the league, they're
Speaker 5: going to give you a certain list of jobs that
Speaker 5: are probably going to benefit who you are. I wouldn't
Speaker 5: ask him to cover and go back was that much.
Speaker 5: But when he gets to lead, they may only ask
Speaker 5: him to move forward and blitz and pass rushing things
Speaker 5: of that nature, and just play Bay style linebacker.
Speaker 2: I feel like I liked him in coverage I watched
Speaker 2: so I watched s MU Texas.
Speaker 4: At Stanford, and I liked him in I agree.
Speaker 2: I don't see the same level of guessing that you're
Speaker 2: talking about. I thought I saw there were times where
Speaker 2: he would get washed out. Now, the play in front
Speaker 2: of him wasn't very good either. That Clemson defensive line
Speaker 2: wasn't as good as they've been in the past.
Speaker 4: However, I think there were times, especially in that game.
Speaker 4: I mean, we're looking at SMU tape right.
Speaker 2: Now, but they were in the ACC Championship game against SMU.
Speaker 2: He took over at times in the middle of that
Speaker 2: third quarter, and I think that's something that at least
Speaker 2: stuck out to me. He did bat down to pass
Speaker 2: in one of the games that I watch, I can't
Speaker 2: remember which one it was. Sure, and so I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't look at him and say guessing. I look
Speaker 2: at a guy that had thirty tackles for loss, that
Speaker 2: had twenty pass breakups, had three interceptions. He was a
Speaker 2: guy that that I thought was versatile, wasn't perfect. I
Speaker 2: don't have a first round grade on the guy. I
Speaker 2: think he's more of a two or three. But it's
Speaker 2: still something that I think you can employ with the
Speaker 2: change of direction in the athleticism that it does possess.
Speaker 5: If you watch Carter and cut him off and then
Speaker 5: cut on our guy from a UCLA Sweess and I
Speaker 5: have Sweessenger above him, it's I think it's a large
Speaker 5: gap of processing ability and and and you know, maybe
Speaker 5: you know some some guys great certain things a little harder,
Speaker 5: right I great linebackers on mental processing very hard because
Speaker 5: I think that's most of your job. That's that's seventy
Speaker 5: percent of your job. So when I when I see
Speaker 5: you kind of guess a little bit. When I see
Speaker 5: you kind of you know, somebody miss like missdirecting your
Speaker 5: life away like that hurts me a little bit, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Not a Okay, there's a bunch
Speaker 5: of weird motion in front of you and we just
Speaker 5: kind of double missed, you know, double reverse. I can
Speaker 5: let you live with it. I can live with you
Speaker 5: kind of getting lost in that. But I mean, like
Speaker 5: we're just we run the counter and your pulle is
Speaker 5: going this way and you're going the other and you're
Speaker 5: going this way. Now, I know, I got to give
Speaker 5: guys some grace because I don't know what's being called.
Speaker 5: I don't know what you're being coached to do. So
Speaker 5: that's the hard part about us and us doing our
Speaker 5: job or whatnot. But but there are times to where
Speaker 5: if you compare him versus some of these other guys
Speaker 5: that I think processes really well. I think Chris Paul
Speaker 5: processes really well. Johia Campbell process really well, and if
Speaker 5: he misses, he's at leg enough to get back over there.
Speaker 5: Right Like, I just think it's a bit of a
Speaker 5: gap between the guys I think process well versus Carter.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at guys like you said, all those
Speaker 2: guys you mentioned, Carter Schweesssinger Bosa. I'll throw Demetrius Night
Speaker 2: from South Carolina in there too, Chris Paul out of
Speaker 2: old mess.
Speaker 4: All those guys have one thing in common.
Speaker 2: They're under six foot two, so they're smaller framed.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 7: I'm about to say, are you get from so obviously
Speaker 7: you sounds like you're a little higher on Bard than
Speaker 7: Batch is, But do you get some Jeremiah Trotter vibes
Speaker 7: as far as the size, the limited ability.
Speaker 3: In those things.
Speaker 7: Immediately when you start talking about him, I started thinking
Speaker 7: about the things we were saying about Jeremiah Trotter last year.
Speaker 7: I think now, don't get me wrong, I think Barrett
Speaker 7: is more of a natural athlete.
Speaker 3: I think he covers more ground.
Speaker 7: It's a thumper too, Yeah, absolutely, I plays with authorities
Speaker 7: in my notes.
Speaker 4: But kind of I kind of saw some Nick Bolton
Speaker 4: in there too.
Speaker 2: Not necessarily the same player, because Nick Bolton's an undersized linebacker,
Speaker 2: but Nick Bolton's probably better at the recognition side of things.
Speaker 2: But sideline, the sideline ability I think he still has that.
Speaker 2: I think he has the coverage ability that Bolton has.
Speaker 2: And Bolton's maybe more of a physical player because he's
Speaker 2: kind of leaned in and grown into that frame during
Speaker 2: his time in the NFL. I think Barrett could do
Speaker 2: the same thing. Barret Carter out of Clemson, and I.
Speaker 7: Think Swssinger is to me, out of the linebackers I've watched,
Speaker 7: might be the most active.
Speaker 4: His motors and I think that comes films.
Speaker 7: It's the grind, like you can sometimes you can watch
Speaker 7: a kid on tape and you see like, oh, he's
Speaker 7: had to work for everything, and obviously that goes into
Speaker 7: his backstory and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But then also too, I think.
Speaker 4: For to walk on and I.
Speaker 7: Think the time he spent as a special teams player,
Speaker 7: which is why I think Special Teams is important, is
Speaker 7: that it establishes a toughness to me that you know,
Speaker 7: some guys maybe don't just come with. And just the
Speaker 7: way he attacks angles to make tackles and stuff.
Speaker 10: Y'all.
Speaker 7: I was incredibly incredibly interest interested in him last night
Speaker 7: and he's very patient to watching plays develop.
Speaker 3: I like this player a.
Speaker 7: Lot watching him last night, even though he.
Speaker 5: Is he is, he is a little bit. Yeah, what
Speaker 5: do y'all think about Kaiser from Notre Dame? Because this
Speaker 5: is me trying to get to learn y'all a little
Speaker 5: better because Carter, who is the more athletic of the
Speaker 5: of the you know group or the two or whatever,
Speaker 5: you know, just me looking at my boy, right, Kaiser
Speaker 5: was a guy that processes his life out. Oh but
Speaker 5: he let not faz people beat him to the corner.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. So then so so so
Speaker 5: I'm I'm saying all this process, process, process, But I
Speaker 5: love athletes too, so so there there there must be
Speaker 5: ballace here. But I got carter Way over guys like
Speaker 5: kaias away. Y'all have guys like Kaiser that they may
Speaker 5: not be the athlete, but they press the asof.
Speaker 2: If Dallas was looking for a Day three linebacker, I
Speaker 2: think I would look for Jack Kaiser.
Speaker 5: I think I think Carter and Kaiser.
Speaker 2: I mean, you've got carter Way down then yeah, see,
Speaker 2: I've got him as a Day two guy. But Kaiser
Speaker 2: as a Day three guy for me, uh, the way
Speaker 2: I looked at him, My pros were can and will
Speaker 2: play all over the field high football IQ as a parent,
Speaker 2: making quick reads and using a quick first step to
Speaker 2: attack the ball, waits for the perfect time on blitzes,
Speaker 2: and created problems and pressures in the backfield.
Speaker 4: The cons was not.
Speaker 2: Great with the change of direction and coverage tends again
Speaker 2: washed out of contention near the line of scrimmage, especially
Speaker 2: in run defense could benefit from an extended period in
Speaker 2: an NFL strength prom room to grow on the physical
Speaker 2: side of things.
Speaker 4: But he's super experienced.
Speaker 2: Nobody in the one hundred and thirty eight year history
Speaker 2: of Notre Dame football has played more games in a
Speaker 2: Notre Dame uniform than Jack Kaiser. And we talked with
Speaker 2: him at the Senior Bowl. He's got the right mindset,
Speaker 2: he's got the football IQ. I think he needs some
Speaker 2: fundamental teaching, some footwork too. That was kind of sloppy
Speaker 2: at times. For the most part, I think Kaiser's going
Speaker 2: to be an NFL linebacker that we'll talk about for
Speaker 2: a couple of years.
Speaker 4: But for the most part.
Speaker 2: Just not a guy with the high ceiling. He's kind
Speaker 2: of limited in what he's going to be able to do.
Speaker 7: Interesting you talked about the coverage ability, Kyle, and I mean,
Speaker 7: I thought at the Senior Bowl that he showed some
Speaker 7: ability to do that a little bit better as opposed
Speaker 7: to what you see on tape. And that's what we're
Speaker 7: looking for. And he's like, will you go against the
Speaker 7: best of the best. Have you been working since the
Speaker 7: season ended? What have you been working on? I thought
Speaker 7: that I saw him be able to cover a little
Speaker 7: bit better. He carries some receivers downfield at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 7: Obviously that was something he's been working on. I do
Speaker 7: think his time as a quarterback also, who plays into
Speaker 7: the way he processes because he's a former quarterback, because yeah.
Speaker 4: The way that and I agree with you in half
Speaker 4: of that sentiment.
Speaker 2: The one side of it is when you're covering at
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl, a lot of times you know you're
Speaker 2: covering going into.
Speaker 3: That I'm tracking that.
Speaker 7: It's just the ability. It's the like you talked about,
Speaker 7: the change of direction. Yeah, the fact that he didn't
Speaker 7: look chopped doing it, because that's what I saw on
Speaker 7: film was that it looks like he's tripping over.
Speaker 4: You talk about the best. They played the best of
Speaker 4: the best.
Speaker 2: I mean they played twenty five games almost, you know,
Speaker 2: like they're going all the way to the title game.
Speaker 2: And there were times where and I'll go back to
Speaker 2: the A and M game, I thought A and M
Speaker 2: torched him at times. Yeah, especially over the middle of
Speaker 2: the field.
Speaker 5: There was a lot of reaching up and missing the ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just those crossers and levels that they took to him,
Speaker 2: and they took care of him early Texas. A and
Speaker 2: M didn't have a whole lot of success in that
Speaker 2: game against the Notre Dame defense, and that was the
Speaker 2: little parts that they did.
Speaker 3: Do you think that? Do you?
Speaker 7: Sometimes I feel like I see with linebackers and I
Speaker 7: feel like this will running backs as well, is that
Speaker 7: their patience is a gift and a curse and they
Speaker 7: get lost. It's not like with him. I feel like
Speaker 7: with his experience. At times I saw him and it
Speaker 7: felt like he was like over processing, if that makes sense.
Speaker 7: And I'm looking for guys to I'm fine with you processing,
Speaker 7: but when you see it.
Speaker 5: Go, well, he's not fast, so that might be.
Speaker 3: He don't move that fat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we're talking about guys in the combine that
Speaker 2: are not going to run faster, might be one of those.
Speaker 7: Okay, well yeah, I'm not. I'm not incredibly high on him.
Speaker 7: I see why some people would be interested in him,
Speaker 7: but I'd be.
Speaker 4: Cool with him on day three.
Speaker 7: The lack of compitability at the linebacker positions.
Speaker 5: I need all their pigs. Dog. I'm trying to you know,
Speaker 5: you know, you know, I'm still looking for the veteran
Speaker 5: that can help me right now, you know, you know
Speaker 5: Gilmore Gilmour was a six round pick two years ago.
Speaker 5: I'd get that then a that.
Speaker 4: Would see and that would be fine for me.
Speaker 2: If you do something like that, I would love to
Speaker 2: pair him with a veteran, you know, I would like
Speaker 2: to have Kaiser in that fold with the veteran.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna read this, listen.
Speaker 2: And then we got to take our second or our
Speaker 2: first break to go to Twitter on the twenty. These
Speaker 2: are some of the other confirmed reports along the way.
Speaker 2: Jordan Birch, Oregon edge rusher, Prince Lely Umami Yellen one
Speaker 2: of your favorites out of Old Miss Michel Williams, Asvach.
Speaker 4: Alluded to earlier. Those are the three EDG rushers that
Speaker 4: have been reported so far.
Speaker 2: Alfred Collins defensive tackle Texas, Kenneth Grant from Michigan another
Speaker 2: d tackle. Cam Horseley is a name we haven't talked
Speaker 2: about yet out of Boston College.
Speaker 4: Has anybody seen him yet? Talked about him yet? I
Speaker 4: have not.
Speaker 2: I watched him this morning, did you Maybe we'll come
Speaker 2: back to it. That might be my Twitter on the
Speaker 2: twenty question. Walter Nolan defensive tackle Old Miss Peyton Page
Speaker 2: is a guy that I haven't looked at yet either
Speaker 2: from Clemson defensive tackle and then Trey Amos, one of
Speaker 2: the corners we've talked about on the show a couple times,
Speaker 2: also out of Ole Miss. All right, let's take our
Speaker 2: first break. When we come back, it's time for some
Speaker 2: twitter on the twenty. We've got some great questions along
Speaker 2: the way. Plus we're gonna have Aisha to tell us
Speaker 2: a little bit about Cam Horseley, the defensive tackle from
Speaker 2: Boston College.
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Speaker 2: All right, tell us a little bit about this, uh,
Speaker 2: this Boston College defensive tackle before we get started.
Speaker 7: I noticed him last year when I was studying Christian Mahogany,
Speaker 7: just looking at the other side of the ball. Sometimes
Speaker 7: I do that just to see how they are. This
Speaker 7: is a Shrine Bowl gentleman. He's six', four three hundred
Speaker 7: and six. Pounds he's a defensive. TACKLE i coming out
Speaker 7: of The Shrine bowl people were just talking about how
Speaker 7: disruptive he, was how his step was, quick how he's
Speaker 7: a lot lighter on his.
Speaker 4: Feet chris's name Is Cam. Horseley Ye cam last, segment.
Speaker 7: Very active and light on his feet for his side.
Speaker 7: Size he has a lot of power in his.
Speaker 5: Hands, no they ain't got.
Speaker 7: Film the pursuit of the ball from, him even, backside
Speaker 7: even though you.
Speaker 3: Do to, ME i think you were about his motor
Speaker 3: a little, bit his.
Speaker 7: Endurance he's not the most like HE'S i don't know
Speaker 7: if he's a guy that's gonna play every, down especially
Speaker 7: at his, size but he can be, DISRUPTIVE i think
Speaker 7: at the next.
Speaker 3: Level and he does have gap.
Speaker 7: DISCIPLINE i think he is some somebody that people will
Speaker 7: look at as a developmental. Piece and he also, too
Speaker 7: he has a selflessness to his game as, well WHICH i.
Speaker 7: Like and those are things that you see you see
Speaker 7: in a lot of the guys in this defensive tackle
Speaker 7: class when you think about what is The Alfred, morris,
Speaker 7: Right Alfred morris just the the ability to be selfless
Speaker 7: and Understand i'm just holding up double.
Speaker 3: Teams i'm just here for. Decoration i'm here to make other.
Speaker 3: Guys College Elf, collins you're talking About collins For.
Speaker 7: Collins another gentleman THAT i think has similar traits in
Speaker 7: that way is that he's. Selfless he understands his, role
Speaker 7: he understand what he's gonna. Do Boston college didn't do
Speaker 7: anything super duper, fancy but this guy was a part
Speaker 7: of what they did on the defensive.
Speaker 3: Side so, yeah again a developmental.
Speaker 7: GUY i think he still has a lot of room
Speaker 7: to grow from a past rushing standpoint and. Stuff but
Speaker 7: you do see the traits there and he has the
Speaker 7: power as. Well so, YEAH i mean, whatever. Y'ALL i,
Speaker 7: MEAN i didn't watch that much take, it BUT i
Speaker 7: got a couple of games.
Speaker 5: IN i will say, this you can learn about you
Speaker 5: can learn a lot about ones, highlights the. Highlights so you,
Speaker 5: KNOW i don't want to say nothing. Else you know
Speaker 5: What i'm, saying shouts out of my. BOY i hope
Speaker 5: you do great out.
Speaker 7: Here you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah he can get.
Speaker 7: High he can he can play kind of high when
Speaker 7: he gets. Tired and that's the thing That i'm THAT
Speaker 7: i was THAT i noticed with him is, LIKE i
Speaker 7: don't think his.
Speaker 3: Murder his motor. Murder i'm trying to kill. Him damn
Speaker 3: his motor runs. HOT i don't think it. DOES i
Speaker 3: think he can hire out later in. Games so rotational,
Speaker 3: piece but whatever this.
Speaker 2: Is this is a good reminder as we are watching
Speaker 2: some of the film here from from The Boston college,
Speaker 2: DTACLE i keep forgetting his name, Too Cam, Horseley so,
Speaker 2: uh these aren't always. Highlights these are this is, FILM i,
Speaker 2: mean this Is they're just. Together, okay it's not always
Speaker 2: high lights. Worthy next, question and this comes From brandon On.
Speaker 2: Twitter he wants to know why THE lsu offensive Lineman
Speaker 2: Emery jones is slipping down draft. Boards why Is Emery
Speaker 2: jones not getting the love that he once Did at
Speaker 2: the beginning of THE nfl draft. PROCESS i think.
Speaker 5: When we start this, PROCESS i think guys reach for
Speaker 5: names that they, recognize or they reach for the hype.
Speaker 5: Players and, sure you, know maybe there was this hype
Speaker 5: around THE, lsu you, know tackles or. Whatever it's two of,
Speaker 5: them y'all go Why and you know he may have
Speaker 5: started in the second. Round but the more you watch,
Speaker 5: FILM i, mean the more you will probably just put
Speaker 5: guys over. THEM i think teams are gonna look at
Speaker 5: them and they're, gonna you, know look at his length
Speaker 5: or his not, length or you, know they're gonna say
Speaker 5: that guys are a little more powerful to, him or
Speaker 5: they move a little bit. Better you, know he's he's
Speaker 5: one of those job, done doesn't look, pretty you, know
Speaker 5: high effort guys or. Whatnot so he doesn't have horrific,
Speaker 5: FILM i, Say but when we look for a film
Speaker 5: and we look at your college, stuff we want your
Speaker 5: college stuff to be fantastic so that we can imagine
Speaker 5: if you get to the, league you'll at least be
Speaker 5: good if it's. FANTASTIC i think he got some real
Speaker 5: cool college. Film so that's up to you to imagine
Speaker 5: how that'll translate to the, uh you, know to the next.
Speaker 5: Level so will say that his hands are a little,
Speaker 5: off or that he doesn't pick up his feet and
Speaker 5: move them all, that, well that he gets over skis
Speaker 5: a little. Bit so nothing bad about the. Players it's
Speaker 5: a bunch of tackles that do, that you. KNOW i
Speaker 5: mean that's what coaching is. For maybe a little bit
Speaker 5: of coaching he can overcome those. Things but just the
Speaker 5: more tackles you, watch the more you just may like
Speaker 5: someone over.
Speaker 7: Him YEAH i.
Speaker 3: DON'T i MEAN i don't.
Speaker 7: Like, well you're asking for the, consistency because that's one
Speaker 7: thing THAT i wrote down in my notes was THAT i.
Speaker 3: Didn't see a consistent.
Speaker 7: PLAYER i think he's a some days he, wanted some
Speaker 7: days he. Don't AND i think you even got to see.
Speaker 7: THAT i took notes on him at The Senior.
Speaker 3: Bowl there were some.
Speaker 7: Reps that you just see him literally anchor down and
Speaker 7: nobody he's. Moving but THEN i don't know if it's
Speaker 7: a focused. THING i don't know what it. Is but
Speaker 7: then you see him get driven, back you see guys
Speaker 7: going past, him you see him over. Setting so OBVIOUSLY
Speaker 7: i think it's some technical stuff like you were, saying
Speaker 7: watch and just the lack of consistency in him that
Speaker 7: you see sometimes from game to game or rep to.
Speaker 3: Rep, yeah what's going on?
Speaker 7: Here? Like what ARE i don't like in the draft
Speaker 7: process being, like, hey what are you?
Speaker 3: Sure AND i see that you're, good but are you
Speaker 3: consistently this?
Speaker 5: Way and that that happens in college when you play
Speaker 5: a lot of different types of players or. Whatever he's
Speaker 5: in THE sec or. Whatever so when he's playing the
Speaker 5: TEXT a AND m, kids he beating hell like them
Speaker 5: no shades of the air and them kids and nothing like.
Speaker 5: That but when you play against some you, know some
Speaker 5: competition for, real then then, OKAY i see why we
Speaker 5: said this about your, feet because this guy's being his
Speaker 5: hell versus you as to where THESE a AND m
Speaker 5: kids may not be, so or scored in particular may not.
Speaker 11: Be so.
Speaker 7: Can you improve? Feat, yes at offensive. Line if a
Speaker 7: guy has heavy, feet.
Speaker 12: It.
Speaker 2: Depends heavy feet is tougher for me to. Improve BUT
Speaker 2: i think footwork in general you can.
Speaker 3: Teach do you think he has heavy?
Speaker 5: FEET i think sometimes you. Can you can fix heavy,
Speaker 5: Feet but bad habits are.
Speaker 3: Worse and that's WHAT i think it. Is, yeah so bad,
Speaker 3: HABITS i think IT'S i think it's more.
Speaker 5: Habits like you, know if you if you cross your
Speaker 5: feed or your post foot drops or something like, that
Speaker 5: or you don't recover well or things of that. Nature you,
Speaker 5: know how you slide or how you get to your
Speaker 5: landmark if you've been doing it one way and college
Speaker 5: may not fix. You you know What i'm, Saying, oh,
Speaker 5: well your way, works so you'll just do this for
Speaker 5: three or four, years and then you get the league
Speaker 5: and you realize your weight doesn't. WORK i think that's
Speaker 5: much different than a heavy footed. ATHLETE a heavy footed,
Speaker 5: ATHLETE i imagine you just lose a little weight and
Speaker 5: get back on the ladders and you can get a
Speaker 5: little better at. That but if you got bad, habits
Speaker 5: it's harder to break a bad habit that you've been
Speaker 5: doing for like three or four.
Speaker 7: Years that makes me think About Tyler, Gia, no, no,
Speaker 7: no we're not.
Speaker 3: Going To we're not gonna be hard on.
Speaker 7: It But i'm saying that that's THAT i think about
Speaker 7: the habits that you trick up when people are just
Speaker 7: trying to get just get through, it like the habits
Speaker 7: that you pick.
Speaker 4: Up that's here's the.
Speaker 5: Difference Tyler smith And guyton both had terrible. Habits smith
Speaker 5: as strong as all get, out so even if his
Speaker 5: hands are in the wrong, place you still won't move
Speaker 5: because he got.
Speaker 12: You.
Speaker 5: Yep gaydon has to develop strength and he has to
Speaker 5: work on his leverage on top of not trying to
Speaker 5: overcompensate for his lack of. Power so he'll lean or
Speaker 5: he'll try to tackle or grab a little, bit and
Speaker 5: that's where holding comes. From so it's a little. Different that's,
Speaker 5: fantastic but that's. Fantastic people need to know.
Speaker 2: That, yeah we've had this question a couple of times
Speaker 2: and they may have all been from the same. Person
Speaker 2: But cole asked he wants to know about some of
Speaker 2: The arkansas guys that are in this year's draft, class
Speaker 2: The razorbacks. SPECIFICALLY i was In fayetteville last. NIGHT i
Speaker 2: called The Texas Arkansas men's, basketball and then he wanted
Speaker 2: to know about The Arkansas, razorbacks and so give, HIM i, thought.
Speaker 4: Give him some.
Speaker 5: Love, philosophically let me ask you all. Question when y'all
Speaker 5: see a player have a fantastic, game but the rest
Speaker 5: of their games don't add up to that. Game are
Speaker 5: y'all the ones that go? Okay, well IF i saw it,
Speaker 5: ONCE i could see it. Again or are you the
Speaker 5: tight that you just look at his consistency or the
Speaker 5: lack of it and just be, LIKE i want to
Speaker 5: move on from. There because land And, jackson if you
Speaker 5: watch his twenty twenty Three alabama, game he's beating the
Speaker 5: life out of all the children at every spot that offensive.
Speaker 7: Line but you talking To ethan Marcasof, jackson.
Speaker 4: Land And, Jackson Lana. JACKSON i just didn't.
Speaker 2: LIKE i thought the phrasing there was. Interesting WHAT i
Speaker 2: say he was he was taking the life from the.
Speaker 5: Children that's HOW i. Talk, hey look watching. BART i
Speaker 5: don't work, here but But Lanta jackson like six seven six.
Speaker 5: HEIGHT i don't have his official combine measurement or, whatever
Speaker 5: but he's six tall as, hell two hundred and big
Speaker 5: pounds six but his his two thousand and his last
Speaker 5: YEAR'S bbama, game Three sacks tore it up all over the.
Speaker 5: Film he looked bendy his hell for no. REASON i,
Speaker 5: like damn, boy this is the first GAME i. Watch
Speaker 5: i'm excited about land And, jackson but it's other games
Speaker 5: didn't quite live up to. That so, philosophically are you
Speaker 5: guys one of?
Speaker 11: Those?
Speaker 5: Man, LOOK i SEEN Landa jackson do it this one?
Speaker 2: Time he could do, it and he did it Against
Speaker 2: alabama correct competition's or anywhere?
Speaker 5: State or do y'all look at that and, Go, man
Speaker 5: that's Not that's not consistent enough for? Me like where
Speaker 5: y'all at with?
Speaker 3: THAT i think you gotta. Ask that's what.
Speaker 7: Scouts that's what the scouts are paid to, do is
Speaker 7: to go in and ask information about this player and
Speaker 7: figure out is it is? It just like like you're,
Speaker 7: saying like is it a consistency? Thing or is this
Speaker 7: SOMETHING i can coach out of him to do regularly
Speaker 7: or to consider? It or and like you were talking,
Speaker 7: about like is it? Competition is it is?
Speaker 3: It does it depend on the?
Speaker 7: Game so for, ME i don't. KNOW i feel like
Speaker 7: if a guy stands out to, ME i get. Curious,
Speaker 7: sure and that makes me want to go look into
Speaker 7: it even more and find out if.
Speaker 3: That is his norm or if this is just maybe
Speaker 3: he just really understood that. Scheme maybe he was just
Speaker 3: really in.
Speaker 7: His film now with you know What i'm, saying like
Speaker 7: it could be a lot of different.
Speaker 3: Reasons did you got oh you're watching?
Speaker 5: Him, yeah we just look at. FILM i Like landon
Speaker 5: a little. Bit you, know it's just that you know
Speaker 5: That bama film is not like the rest of his. Film,
Speaker 5: yes if he had more of that Than i'd be,
Speaker 5: like all, right, man you can put this dude up
Speaker 5: in second round or something like. That but you, know
Speaker 5: sometimes he's. On sometimes he has great.
Speaker 4: Length he's always been tall and.
Speaker 2: Lanky actually called some of his games At Texarkana Pleasant
Speaker 2: Grove High school coming out Of Texas High.
Speaker 4: School, football long lanky has always been his.
Speaker 2: Mo and he put on some weight At. Arkansas they
Speaker 2: did a nice job getting him in the weight. Room
Speaker 2: he's filled out his frame a little. BIT i think
Speaker 2: he can take another step. There but you can't teach the,
Speaker 2: length WHICH i think is. Significant, well you might need
Speaker 2: to try and teach is how to move the. Feed
Speaker 2: at times he was slow off his. Break he was
Speaker 2: slow off the line of. Scrimmage there were times where
Speaker 2: he would get kind of bullied by the bigger offensive
Speaker 2: linemen that were able to kind of combat the length
Speaker 2: a little. Bit you talked about, earlier those guys that
Speaker 2: were playing The Emery jones is up The world and
Speaker 2: The Will campbell's and stuff like.
Speaker 4: That he struggled to get those.
Speaker 2: Guys so if there was an offensive lineman that could
Speaker 2: bat at the, length which that's what he's going to
Speaker 2: see in THE nfl, level he's going to see, long
Speaker 2: lanky offensive lineman two, uh then that's.
Speaker 4: Where he had some.
Speaker 2: Issues SO i think there's room to grow for Landon.
Speaker 2: JACKSON i don't necessarily see him as a top edge.
Speaker 2: Rusher that's probably right around Where i've got. HIM i
Speaker 2: don't have a solidified grade on him, yet but THAT
Speaker 2: i could see a fourth round.
Speaker 7: Pick There Another arkanstas. Player the only Other arkassas watch
Speaker 7: Was Jackson.
Speaker 2: Quinnin, jackson the running back former quarterback At Duncanville.
Speaker 7: Heights he's the only, okay, Okay, Duncanville, no the only
Speaker 7: Other arkansas.
Speaker 4: Player you don't know what Duncan ville.
Speaker 3: Is Duncan you need to learn one of the best ball.
Speaker 3: TEAM i just.
Speaker 5: MOVE i know you.
Speaker 4: Did Duncanville, like, yeah they've got they've got some go.
Speaker 5: Ahead tell us about The Quintin.
Speaker 7: Noinin, obviously what he's known for is the Other Jackson
Speaker 7: jackson Marks. Tronobo he's kind Of i'm a gentleman that
Speaker 7: can do a little bit of everything from the running back.
Speaker 7: Position one thing that stands out immediately is the willingness
Speaker 7: and pass pro awareness and pass. Pro this is not
Speaker 7: the most light footed running back you'll see him even.
Speaker 7: Run he runs kind of flat foot. Run, yeah he
Speaker 7: runs looking like that out, there the way you, run
Speaker 7: and so he's flat, footed so you're not gonna see.
Speaker 7: Him he has Some it's weird, though because he does
Speaker 7: have some acceleration to, him AND i think that that
Speaker 7: speaks to his, balance especially someone that plays flat, footed
Speaker 7: not incredibly incredibly, laterally you know. Dynamic, however he can
Speaker 7: make some cutbacks and get up field and make you.
Speaker 7: Pay this gentleman also, too has the ability to come.
Speaker 7: Downhill he'll be.
Speaker 3: Physical he's not super, heavy but people do bounce off of.
Speaker 3: HIM i love the ball.
Speaker 7: PROTECTION i love the way that he A he's able
Speaker 7: to carry the, ball and the vision is something THAT
Speaker 7: i think is steadily improving as. Well, YES i think
Speaker 7: that's something he naturally has and that's why he's not
Speaker 7: a guy that accelerates super, crazy but can get to
Speaker 7: the second. Level so, YEAH i don't think enough people
Speaker 7: have been talking about. Him he's really let down a
Speaker 7: lot of people's boys because this running back class is.
Speaker 7: GOOD i think if he wasn't in this, class he
Speaker 7: might be a little bit higher because he can literally
Speaker 7: do a little bit of, everything AND i think coaches
Speaker 7: will look at that and, SAY i can develop that
Speaker 7: into making you a star here or a star.
Speaker 2: Here players like Chaquinnin jackson scare the Be jesus out
Speaker 2: of me Because i'm looking at him as a raw
Speaker 2: prospect on the, bisation so very. Raw he's got all
Speaker 2: the athletic. Traits he had that as.
Speaker 4: A quarterback in high.
Speaker 2: School he was recruited To fayetteville In arkansas as a
Speaker 2: quarterback as.
Speaker 4: Well they've switched him over.
Speaker 2: Once they kind of saw the rest of the guys
Speaker 2: there and he loved it up there enough to stay
Speaker 2: there and work at his. Craft you talked about the
Speaker 2: pass pro that would be one of my first things
Speaker 2: you want to check off the list by a running
Speaker 2: back switching, positions you got to be able to, block
Speaker 2: and he, does and he does so at a high.
Speaker 2: Level the only THING i can see with Jaquinnin jackson
Speaker 2: is the flat footed said running. Style it all kind
Speaker 2: of the lateral ability isn't the same as some of
Speaker 2: these other running. Backs but he's so new to the
Speaker 2: position THAT i think there's still room for him to
Speaker 2: grow in those. Areas he's got great, vision he waits
Speaker 2: for blocks to develop in front of, me runs behind his.
Speaker 2: PADS a lot of that's just because he's slower to
Speaker 2: get going in the first.
Speaker 4: Place, yes BUT i.
Speaker 2: Could look up and see a couple of, options two
Speaker 2: different paths here For jaquinn And, jackson one of which
Speaker 2: he ends up in a great situation and he's in
Speaker 2: the league and we're looking up eight to nine years from,
Speaker 2: Now we're, Like, wow he had an under the Radar
Speaker 2: i'm not going to say he's a, star but he
Speaker 2: had an under the radar productive career in THE. NFL
Speaker 2: i can see down another path where he gets to
Speaker 2: a camp kind of fizzles out and.
Speaker 4: He never really has a whole lot.
Speaker 2: Going in his. Direction so there's a wide range of
Speaker 2: where he could. Fit most likely it's somewhere in the.
Speaker 2: MIDDLE i think he's a professional running. BACK i think
Speaker 2: he'll be on an active, roster BUT i don't see
Speaker 2: him as this bel cow, back three down backyard and
Speaker 2: give the ball.
Speaker 4: To over and over and.
Speaker 3: Over, no that's WHAT i, saw AND i was, like
Speaker 3: he's a running.
Speaker 7: Back, yeah that's what you take from it is, okay
Speaker 7: this is, Like i'm glad you mentioned that he WAS
Speaker 7: ROCKI i forgot to mention that. Part but, yeah he's
Speaker 7: a running back and you can develop some of the
Speaker 7: things that he. HAS i understand why he is down
Speaker 7: so many people's boards because he still has a lot to.
Speaker 3: Learn he's a.
Speaker 4: Nugget, yeah, definitely so all.
Speaker 2: Right last one On twitter on the Twenty mike wants
Speaker 2: to know what's your realistic nightmare scenario For dallas at pick.
Speaker 4: Twelve what is the nightmare entail we're trying to Get asha.
Speaker 7: SHOW i WISH i won't to talk about nightmares in
Speaker 7: the first, place not MA i don't.
Speaker 5: Like the player that we really don't want to, draft or.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah realistic, Nightmare, yeah when what would make you
Speaker 2: give a pin.
Speaker 4: Throw.
Speaker 5: LISTEN i don't want to say this too much because
Speaker 5: every time somebody asked me, THIS i predict the nightmare. Perfectly,
Speaker 5: like you, KNOW i don't want to say not, nobody
Speaker 5: nobody where you're. Drafted BUT i don't want to say.
Speaker 5: That but, hey, MAN i just think it The cowboys
Speaker 5: overthink it and they lean into development as opposed to
Speaker 5: just taking the better, dude then that'll be bad for.
Speaker 5: Me for, example, right you, Know i've just been watching
Speaker 5: a lot of Mock dress and keeping up with, him
Speaker 5: and you, know Kyper put went out and Boy jentsy
Speaker 5: would way down in twenty one and McMillan fell to
Speaker 5: like nineteen or. Something i'm, like, man, like how do this?
Speaker 5: Work how did that? Happen you know What i'm. SAYING
Speaker 5: i think if The cowboys are on the clock and
Speaker 5: they pass on a guy like, THAT i would be.
Speaker 5: Gravely you talk about a mic, Throw i'm, Throwing i'm
Speaker 5: a pin. Throw i'm throwing. Technology, yeah you know What i'm.
Speaker 5: Saying so as long as the cowboy and look you
Speaker 5: if you drafting at twelve, overall, man it's it's hard
Speaker 5: to mess it.
Speaker 4: Up, yeah it's.
Speaker 5: Hard to mess it. Up just take a good guy
Speaker 5: and just.
Speaker 2: Wonder if that's Been one of the, storylines Is tetoro and,
Speaker 2: McMillan the wide receiver out Of Arizona, state slipping down draft.
Speaker 2: BOARDS i even put out a joking tweet the other
Speaker 2: day on one of the reports and was, like, Yeah
Speaker 2: i'd be down with.
Speaker 4: THAT i don't think he should go anywhere in the
Speaker 4: top eleven.
Speaker 2: Decks, yeah there's no way that he should be a
Speaker 2: top eleven draft. PICK i don't know if Gent d
Speaker 2: is gonna. FALL i don't know if McMillan's gonna. Fall
Speaker 2: neither one of those guys. Should but we hear that
Speaker 2: type of stuff right around this, time because.
Speaker 4: What is it asha in a few, days it's lying.
Speaker 4: Season that's WHAT i was lying.
Speaker 3: SEASON i got to say it's a it's offensive.
Speaker 5: Line would anybody be upset at the offensive.
Speaker 4: LINE i Think i'd be a little hot at offensive.
Speaker 5: Line Matt on and the check would be upset at
Speaker 5: the offensive.
Speaker 3: LINE i would. Be it would be, no, no, NO
Speaker 3: i would be. UPSET i don't think it's necessary right, Now.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do. It dance on. This moug will take
Speaker 5: one of the, MONTH i don't.
Speaker 3: Think but where are you gonna put him for?
Speaker 4: WHO i will figure it out for?
Speaker 5: Who for YOUR i mean for your right. Guard they just,
Speaker 5: SAID i don't want TO i don't want to play
Speaker 5: football a. Nomore that'll Be that'll be a cool Lou.
Speaker 2: OKAY i, mean you're not drafting a, center so it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a guard or a, tackle, right there's not
Speaker 2: there's none of these.
Speaker 4: Centers i'm playing at.
Speaker 5: TACKLE i, WILL i. WILL i don't mind drafting the tackle,
Speaker 5: really AND i would let him compete with your left
Speaker 5: tackle and at some point your right tackles probably you
Speaker 5: probably he's not gonna be a contract guy for you,
Speaker 5: forever and you could just move. AROUND i think the
Speaker 5: biggest problem with your rookie from last year is he
Speaker 5: didn't get an opportunity to just sit down and, learn
Speaker 5: you know What i'm. Saying and he's a guy that
Speaker 5: had a lot of bad habits and just plenty of.
Speaker 5: Deficiencies so if he has an, opportunity it ain't Like
Speaker 5: i'm trying to kick him all the way to the.
Speaker 5: Curve because he's one of the best athletic looking left
Speaker 5: Tackles i've ever seen in my. Life, ever the rookie
Speaker 5: from last, year he had a lot of stuff to work.
Speaker 5: On he had a lot of mental acclimating to the
Speaker 5: game that you have to have to play this level of,
Speaker 5: ball and hey, MAN i just wanted to kind of
Speaker 5: work on those things and not have to be thrown
Speaker 5: in the. Fire you could Throw Zach martin And travis
Speaker 5: And tying in the, fire but everybody can't be And
Speaker 5: Tyler smith you, can but you can't throw everybody in the.
Speaker 5: Fire IF i have a we were talking about our Guy,
Speaker 5: Simmons Josh, simmons, Right we don't know what his knee
Speaker 5: is gonna check out, too But Josh simmons was a
Speaker 5: guy that would be competitive in last year's class tackle, wise,
Speaker 5: right he wouldn't be one of these guys that's falling
Speaker 5: down to the twenties like our guy from last. Year
Speaker 5: SO i think he'll be a guy that steps right.
Speaker 5: In he'll take the left tackle and maybe you'll get
Speaker 5: one more year to sit gay and then when you
Speaker 5: move on From, terry you can put game at right
Speaker 5: tackling and and live your. Life or you could Take
Speaker 5: Kevin banks and put them at Right. Guarden you ain't
Speaker 5: gotta worry about right guard for a little.
Speaker 3: WHILE i guess.
Speaker 5: You all you want.
Speaker 4: TO i feel like you're hot right now even.
Speaker 7: Thinking about it, Now i'm JUST i JUST i just
Speaker 7: feel like we're just at that point to WHERE i,
Speaker 7: MEAN i understand building the offensive line and you, know
Speaker 7: kind of solidifying things and like. That BUT i also
Speaker 7: understand that other teams and we see, it they get
Speaker 7: productiveness out of mid round guys because it doesn't always
Speaker 7: have to be, this you, Know and again still GO,
Speaker 7: Bpa i'm not out my, Mind that's my.
Speaker 4: Point, yeah THE, Bps i'm not out of my mind Saying.
Speaker 5: I'm not you to take off this. Line but What
Speaker 5: i'm saying is if Boy gent's out of, Here Carter
Speaker 5: graham is out of, Here burden is out of, here
Speaker 5: McMillan is out of, here and it's offensive lineman versus
Speaker 5: some dudes you don't. Like, Oh i'm not taking offensive
Speaker 5: line just because it's an offensive. Line. NAH i think
Speaker 5: there exists some situation where teams take all the best
Speaker 5: dudes and you sit there and you, Go, okay the
Speaker 5: best offensive line in, here and a couple of edges
Speaker 5: THAT i don't feel great, about Like James pierce Versus
Speaker 5: Josh simmons is an, easy like easy pick for. Me
Speaker 5: i'm Taking simmons because he's a first round grade for.
Speaker 5: Me corner versus. Tackle that may be a closer conversation to.
Speaker 5: You but Like Walter nolan versus my best tackle on the,
Speaker 5: board my best left, Time i'm taking my best left
Speaker 5: tackle Over.
Speaker 7: Waltson, NO i mean and also, TOO i, MEAN i
Speaker 7: GUESS i will consider the fact that you, know the
Speaker 7: tackle class is not like the most, flashy, fantastic whatever
Speaker 7: the case may. Be what do you think the value not,
Speaker 7: value but where do you think the levels change in
Speaker 7: the tackle class as far as, like so the first rounder.
Speaker 5: Who's not So simmons is my clear one guy From Ohio,
Speaker 5: state but his knee hurt so he may not be up.
Speaker 5: There Kelvin, banks who's, cool BUT i wouldn't consider him
Speaker 5: one of the like if you look at the top
Speaker 5: five guys in last year's, like he's No Olu joe
Speaker 5: all type. Guy he'll be down there with the mimses or.
Speaker 5: WHATEVER i Think banks is a solid player that'll probably be.
Speaker 5: There are mine mine From. Missouri he's a guy that's
Speaker 5: been that's been that's been getting a lot of you,
Speaker 5: know you, know hype. Lately but he's another one of
Speaker 5: those guys that probably would have went twenty last year besides, that, Connorly,
Speaker 5: Uh Cam, Williams Charles Granfam william And Mary. Ursery like those,
Speaker 5: GUYS i wouldn't throw first round picks at you know
Speaker 5: somethow some teams probably wouldn't even throw throw seconds at.
Speaker 5: Him so if you are in the the, littlest the
Speaker 5: smallest market for a left, tackle hey, man take, one
Speaker 5: and don't don't just say we'll just get one. LATER
Speaker 5: i don't even think that you should be getting left
Speaker 5: left tackle later or just tackle. Later in, general it's
Speaker 5: it's it's Either simmons Or. Banks and if it's not
Speaker 5: one of those, guys Then i'm just moving on from
Speaker 5: left tackle and just drafting somebody. Else BUT i think
Speaker 5: those guys are worth the pick at left tackle or right.
Speaker 4: GUARD i would throw Real campbell into that. NEXT i Like.
Speaker 5: Campbell he's a second round great for. Me so if
Speaker 5: It's Will Campbell, Baron i'm Taking Joy. Baron this Is
Speaker 5: Will campbell Versus Mike, Green i'm taking my. Green Will
Speaker 5: campbell Versus Calvin, Banks i'm Taking, banks or SEE i
Speaker 5: would Take, Banks Luther burden Or Will Campbell. Burden i'm Taking.
Speaker 5: Bird So campbell will probably be, like, hey if you
Speaker 5: if you kept me, THERE i would Say, green OR
Speaker 5: i would SAY i once typed Between green And, campbell
Speaker 5: they're pretty much right there on my. Board what was
Speaker 5: the first one you threw out? THERE i Say, GREEN
Speaker 5: i say a Baron Jadday. Barn, YEAH i would take Probably.
Speaker 4: YadA.
Speaker 5: Yeah so there's a lot of what you're, saying BUT
Speaker 5: i would at.
Speaker 4: Least have him in that that mix of the offensive
Speaker 4: linemen that are worth.
Speaker 5: IT i, SEE i.
Speaker 2: Don't i'm concerned about the Injury, simmons So i'm a
Speaker 2: Little i'm a little should have turned.
Speaker 4: There his tape's, great don't get me.
Speaker 2: WRONG i actually really like his, tape BUT i am
Speaker 2: a little bit weary because it does seem like it
Speaker 2: is a lingering.
Speaker 4: THING i know we're running along here on this, segment but.
Speaker 8: Yeah no.
Speaker 2: Doubt but the the whole thought process around it is
Speaker 2: you want to solidify your offensive. Line so If i'm
Speaker 2: solidified my offensive, Line i'm not going to take a
Speaker 2: guy with a knee. Flag, sure you, KNOW i would
Speaker 2: rather take A banks and A campbell who have kind
Speaker 2: of that cleaner injury history along the.
Speaker 4: Board if there's not players elsewhere THAT i would.
Speaker 5: TAKE i just don't want to hit none of. This
Speaker 5: you want there receiving at running, big it's all.
Speaker 3: GOOD i Just i'm just ready to attack skill.
Speaker 7: Position you're not, wrong you're not wrong attack the skill positions.
Speaker 2: Or burden or sitting right there and taking all three
Speaker 2: of those guys over any offensive.
Speaker 4: Line but they're all Above banks on my. Board but.
Speaker 5: Teams one to eleven may like them just as much
Speaker 5: as we like, them and they'll tell very. True so
Speaker 5: we had to be ready for very.
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Speaker 2: kind of see some of these guys in the way
Speaker 2: that they're going to. Perform the guys that would be
Speaker 2: on the field, first you've got the defensive, line linebackers
Speaker 2: and kickers on the board, first followed by defensive backs
Speaker 2: and tight ends they will work out. Tomorrow then you've
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Speaker 4: Lineman that is who is taking the. Stage that is
Speaker 4: a way that it's all scheduled. Out so with that being,
Speaker 4: said who are some of the guys.
Speaker 2: That are gonna run? Fast everybody likes to take a
Speaker 2: bet on who's gonna run the fastest forty yard. Dash
Speaker 2: last year it was Mister Worthy Xavier worthy out Of
Speaker 2: texas breaking the all time forty record of THE nfl
Speaker 2: combine with a four to two.
Speaker 4: One who's gonna run the quickest this? Year who?
Speaker 5: Got SO i don't know who's gonna necessarily run the.
Speaker 5: Fastest that's more of a you, know y'all's THINK i
Speaker 5: just watched. Film you know What i'm. Saying so film,
Speaker 5: Boy so the fastest guy could be some corner THAT
Speaker 5: i never heard, of you know What i'm. Saying but
Speaker 5: if we just talking about, tackles IF i had to
Speaker 5: assume which d tackles are gonna run the fastest to,
Speaker 5: Day i'm looking For Tyler, williams who's three hundred and you,
Speaker 5: know thirty probably three forty some, pounds AND i JUST
Speaker 5: i just think he's gonna move around really. Well, Uh
Speaker 5: Darius alexander's probably Gonna this whole class is filled with
Speaker 5: good moving big. Guys so we're probably gonna keep watching
Speaker 5: big guys run forties one text in, particular and we're
Speaker 5: just gonna be more and more impressed with how they.
Speaker 5: Move W Washing nolan's gonna be a good moving. Guy
Speaker 5: and Maybe i'm, biased, right BUT i just keep naming
Speaker 5: the heaviest likely to big move. Guys but, Uh caldwell From.
Speaker 5: Oregon Not harmon From, oregon But. Caldwell caldwell's another three
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty pound character that looks like he's gonna
Speaker 5: move really. Fast AND i tend to clap for those
Speaker 5: guys a little more than the obvious run fast. PEOPLE
Speaker 5: i don't like when they when they put, these you, know,
Speaker 5: Oh Walchingon nolan's gonna run with the with THE d
Speaker 5: line in the day and he runs a four to,
Speaker 5: three and now we're, like, oh D linan running four
Speaker 5: three nine and put some three hundred pounds people up
Speaker 5: there and praise them for they fox eights and four
Speaker 5: sevens that they. Running. Man so that's that's that's HOW
Speaker 5: i think it's gonna go To.
Speaker 7: DATH i can't, remember uh uh is there anything came
Speaker 7: down On Shamar james at? All?
Speaker 3: NOTHING i haven't.
Speaker 5: Seen.
Speaker 3: WELL i think he's gonna.
Speaker 5: RUN i know a couple OF i Know, TURNER i
Speaker 5: Know Shamar. Stewart DID i get his name mixed? Up
Speaker 5: what's School? Florida, OKAY i don't. Know, YEAH i haven't seen.
Speaker 4: Him is he a wide?
Speaker 3: Receiver, oh he's a.
Speaker 4: Linebacker Linebacker, Chamar what did you say his name Was?
Speaker 7: Turner my, BRAIN i might.
Speaker 5: Have, JEFFERSON i might have got don't Do Jamar.
Speaker 2: James, yeah linebacker From, florida six foot one to twenty.
Speaker 2: Six he is way down my, List, yes but at the.
Speaker 4: Moment but do you think he's a.
Speaker 3: Burner he's dealt with some health.
Speaker 7: Stuff physical, tackler but the speed that he displays to
Speaker 7: come from depth to make tackles at the, line behind
Speaker 7: the line of.
Speaker 3: SCRIMMAGE i do think that he may.
Speaker 7: Surprise, somebody some people with his, Speed but he also
Speaker 7: too he needs to have a good day because of
Speaker 7: some of the things that he's dealt with with his
Speaker 7: health and things like. That pretty sure, tackler not a,
Speaker 7: thumper but a physical. Tackler but, yeah he does have some.
Speaker 7: SPEED i want to see how he tests. Today from that,
Speaker 7: standpoint let me see who's another gentleman That i'm looking
Speaker 7: for to. Test, Oh i'm looking also to got to
Speaker 7: see him at The Senior.
Speaker 3: Bowl Devin. NEIL i think that HE i, think, Yeah, DEVINIEL.
Speaker 7: I think it's important That Devin neil shows, away shows
Speaker 7: some level of breakaway.
Speaker 5: Speed if he runs, fast that's gonna do a lot for.
Speaker 11: HIM i.
Speaker 7: Agree seeing him at The Senior, bowl was able to
Speaker 7: see him capture the edge a couple of, times and
Speaker 7: that's WHAT i was looking for from him because obviously
Speaker 7: you see the, trades you see what he's capable, of
Speaker 7: but it's, like, hey what is his accelerations?
Speaker 3: Like what is his burst like when he puts his
Speaker 3: foot in the.
Speaker 7: GROUND i think this is gonna be very important for
Speaker 7: him going into, yeah going into the the combine. Tonight
Speaker 7: SO i wonder who else AM i thinking?
Speaker 5: About, well IF i can add a wire receiver to the,
Speaker 5: List Matthew golden is a is a track, guy AND
Speaker 5: i think he's gonna just be moving up board. Slowly
Speaker 5: he's a round one grade for. Me but some, people you,
Speaker 5: know they'll still draft him in the. Thirties they'll have
Speaker 5: him as a round.
Speaker 4: Two.
Speaker 5: GREAT i wonder because in his last mix draft he
Speaker 5: was like a twenty third or so. Guy you, know
Speaker 5: he's an early the early you, know twenties or late
Speaker 5: teens if you look at different mocks or. WHATEVER i
Speaker 5: wonder if he goes out there runs like a track,
Speaker 5: DUDE i wonder what that'll do for his. THOUGHT i
Speaker 5: got to make me. HAPPY i would be thrilled if
Speaker 5: he went out there and ran like a, four like
Speaker 5: a low.
Speaker 4: FOURD i don't think that's the knock to.
Speaker 2: HIM i think it's possible he could do like a
Speaker 2: four four like probably four three five would probably be
Speaker 2: a good number for.
Speaker 5: Him these guys get faster every, year so he might
Speaker 5: be a four to three eight guy or.
Speaker 2: SOMETHING i don't, know you, know, UH i know some
Speaker 2: of the predictions have his Teammate Isaiah bond as kind of.
Speaker 4: He's like the heads on favorite to run the.
Speaker 5: Quick, yeah he's not a good.
Speaker 7: Receiver but one last, Gentleman Danny, STUTSMAN i don't owe
Speaker 7: you the. Linebacker, obviously the movement is, good the coverage is,
Speaker 7: good all those.
Speaker 3: Things leadership is. There BUT i also, Too i'm.
Speaker 7: Looking at how he runs today BECAUSE i do think
Speaker 7: there's some questions on his, speed his ability to, close
Speaker 7: even though like the tenacity is, there he will drive
Speaker 7: on the. Ball how good is this changing? Direction but
Speaker 7: also to just how does he how long does it
Speaker 7: take him to get going speed? Wise i'm looking for
Speaker 7: him as well tonight And Michael williams as.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah that's a good. Point he's he's he's just fast.
Speaker 5: Enough and if he's WHAT i Call Josie jewel.
Speaker 3: FANS i think he'd be a because that was something
Speaker 3: we saw WITH i, mean.
Speaker 5: WELL i don't want to be that, guy but you
Speaker 5: know certain certain linebackers who don't have the athletic profile
Speaker 5: like other linebackers. DO i think if you can get
Speaker 5: just as fast As Josie, JEWEL i think he's a
Speaker 5: good bar for what a starting linebacker in the league.
Speaker 5: Is you don't have to Be Michael partersons, fans but
Speaker 5: if you're at Least Josie jewel, FANS i think you
Speaker 5: can you can live.
Speaker 3: HERE i think we saw that With Jack, Campbell uh
Speaker 3: coming out of.
Speaker 5: He doesn't right Around Josie jewel fan, right did not.
Speaker 7: Test super, crazy but he's just fast enough and the
Speaker 7: processing makes him. Faster So Stutsing Stutson stutsman.
Speaker 3: Rather is a gentleman just like.
Speaker 7: That SO i want to keep an eye on. HIM
Speaker 7: i liked watching this. Type he got some swag to him.
Speaker 4: Too there you.
Speaker 2: Go, well once we come back On, tuesday we will
Speaker 2: we will have all of numbers to break down for
Speaker 2: you and what it means moving into the draft stock
Speaker 2: and then the next step is Pro dacey pro days
Speaker 2: across the, board where everyone's going to be running a
Speaker 2: four to. Two even Watch, lombardi we'll get a four.
Speaker 5: To two to.
Speaker 3: Five thank you guys for having. IT i enjoyed.
Speaker 2: Myself, YEAH he'su glad to have you. Back hopefully it's
Speaker 2: not the last time throughout the draft. Process we'll check
Speaker 2: in down the. Road but other than.
Speaker 5: That YouTube, Something, yeah where can we find your stuff
Speaker 5: on The?
Speaker 3: Twitter all over?
Speaker 7: It, yeah on The, twitter probably doing some YouTube. STUFF
Speaker 7: i know Of brian And batch do some. Work they
Speaker 7: want to bring me on stuff like, That But i'm
Speaker 7: kind of keeping a low profile this. Year i'm trying
Speaker 7: to you, know if people bring names to, Me i'm
Speaker 7: looking at them for them and things like. That but, really,
Speaker 7: uh just kind of enjoying the process and just going
Speaker 7: through the motions this year AND i like.
Speaker 2: It there you, Go, well you did a great job
Speaker 2: filling in these last couple of, days and we'll talk
Speaker 2: to you again down the.
Speaker 4: Line Aisham morris and.
Speaker 2: Everybody For Watch, Lombardi, elizja For chris being in the,
Speaker 2: Backup Kyle yeoman saying so, long we will see you
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