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Speaker 2: Could you imagine Oprah telling you that she is going

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Speaker 2: I'm extremely happy for my girl, Debla Joy. She is

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Speaker 3: Y'all, It's the greatest suspersion the entertainment can Nake You Win?

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Speaker 4: And Carrie Sheppy is going to be a champion, a

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Speaker 2: Hi? Hey, everybody, welcome to Naked. I tell you every

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Speaker 2: We all say that, and every now and again you

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Speaker 2: Deborah joy Winans is on the podcast today, Welcome My Love,

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 1: I am speechless. Actually, Carrie, you are so my cup

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Speaker 2: I'm wonderful. You look beautiful as usual, you guys, I

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Speaker 2: It's known you guys watch Green Leave for Character. Charity's

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the podcast. Deport Joy Winings is sharing

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Speaker 2: all things, and if you haven't figured it out, yes,

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Speaker 2: Put your rest on, get it human, busy. This was tough, busy, Okay, tough,

432
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 2: And so he.

433
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: Came out perfect, wonderful, fully healthy. And then four weeks

434
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: after my C section, I got my fibroids removed and

435
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: then I was back at it with my trainer. I

436
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, we got to take it slow, but

437
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: this is my goal. This is what I want. And

438
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: slowly but surely we have rebuilt my mind, my spirit

439
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: and my body to what I've seen in my head.

440
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: And like I said before, you can't ask God for

441
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: things that you are not preparing for. And I think

442
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: a lot of times we say, oh, I want this,

443
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: I want that God do this for me, do that

444
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: for me, but we are not ready. And so I've

445
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: said quite a bit, oh I want to do some

446
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: marvel stuff. I want to do superhero stuff. I want

447
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: to be able to run. I want to I want

448
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: to do thriller, I want to do action. So I

449
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: put myself in a body that can handle that. And

450
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: so that's I speak it and I ask God for it,

451
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: and that I prepare for it so that I'm ready.

452
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: And so this two point zero, I think my fans

453
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: are really embracing. They are embracing the motherhood of me.

454
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: They are embracing the whole journey, the being honest about

455
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: where I am with my body and what's happening. I

456
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: think that this world embraces honesty. I think they embrace

457
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: I make it.

458
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: They want it, they want it. They want you to

459
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: be as honest. And by the way, it's so incredibly

460
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 2: like I said, you just have so much courage because

461
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: it's so incredibly vulnerable to do what you do, to

462
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: be an artist where you put your art up in

463
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: front of everyone and say, hey, do you like it?

464
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: But you do what do you feel of it? Do

465
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: you think you like it? Because I still think artists

466
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: are sensitive. I consider myself an artist in a lot

467
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 2: of ways. I'm super sensitive, which is why I find

468
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 2: a prism to protect myself with my tribe and when

469
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: I venture out of it, I'm not like, this makes

470
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: me nervous, but okay, you know what I mean? Like

471
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 2: all of that. I first of all, you look good too,

472
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: y'all go on to Instagram. She's so fine. She's so

473
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: damn vine. She'd been fine, but she's so fine. We

474
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: were in a wedding together, our friend Kelly Carter got

475
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: married and the bride'smaids was fine. It was me, it

476
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: was you, It was a whole bunch. There was this

477
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: brown girl dreaming and I was like, I love everything

478
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 2: about this. It was just a beautiful experience. But what

479
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: I did also see in you at the wedding and

480
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: obviously all the events that we did leading up to

481
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: the wedding, was that you are very comfortable in your

482
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: own skin. And that's hard to be as an actress.

483
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 2: And in a world of so many beautiful brown actresses,

484
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 2: do you ever get into the for just even a moment,

485
00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: the comparison of God, I wish so and so. I

486
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: auditioned for that role and they gave it to I

487
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: won't say a name, and they get it to her,

488
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: And so why her? You know what I mean, not hating,

489
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: but just like, why her? My business is very different.

490
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 2: They'll come to me and say, Carrie, this is your gig.

491
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: But if I see somebody else doing a gig, I

492
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 2: know that should have been I'm like, dang, I guess

493
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't meant for me. But I could do that too.

494
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: But they're very specific of who they're looking for. And

495
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: when you're auditioning and you're down to the one in

496
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: the two and they take the other one, how do

497
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: you feel? How do you handle that?

498
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's difficult. If it's a project, I really really

499
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: really want it.

500
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: Do you have one you can share? You don't have

501
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: to tell me who got it? Oh, you might excuse

502
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 2: my friends. You might end up telling me who got

503
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: it by saying what it was. Okay, never mind, go

504
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: go go.

505
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: There was one the year that actually I found out

506
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: I didn't get it the day after I found out

507
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: I was pregnant. It was hard because I really really,

508
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: really really wanted it. At the end of the day,

509
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: there was so much physical that came along with that role,

510
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: and I never would have been able to do it

511
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: justice because that pregnancy from the start had me in

512
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: a pain that I, as I've told you, could not

513
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: fully describe. So I know that wasn't for me, and

514
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: I fully believe that with everything when you don't get it,

515
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: I fully believe it just wasn't for me.

516
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: I think.

517
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: The only thing that I don't compare, I just have

518
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: noticed the couple times that I don't get the thing

519
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: that I really wanted, they've gone with a completely different look.

520
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: It's been light skin. I'm like, okay, and so from that,

521
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: and it's about the person that actually got it, because look,

522
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna cheer you on, especially a woman of color. Baby,

523
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: I've got your back, your front, your side, like I

524
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: love it, because I believe that what is meant for

525
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: you is meant for you, and whatever God has for me,

526
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: he has for me. I was sad to hear that

527
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: it was oh well, they wanted this more quintessential beauty,

528
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: and they felt like that was in this. So the

529
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: quintessential beauty is the light, not the dark. That's what

530
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: we're still fighting in Hollywood. And I'm like, guys, so

531
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: that's not okay. But I don't I don't find myself

532
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: comparing and thinking in a way, well, why not me?

533
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: It just wasn't for me. But when I hear that

534
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: the mindset behind it is oh, well the light skin

535
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: is prettier, or the light skin looks better, or the

536
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: light skin. Then it's like, guys, has why are we

537
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: doing that?

538
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: So old?

539
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: We're still and again we're still doing that. And that

540
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: is something that caused me to look at myself and say, oh, well,

541
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: maybe you know you're not And then I said, I

542
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: am everything I am meant to be. I am fully enough,

543
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: and they just didn't see it. But also it wasn't

544
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: meant for me.

545
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't meant for you. That's it. That's it, because

546
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: if that's what you wanted, you didn't want me and

547
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: I didn't want to and don't squeeze me into something

548
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: you don't want me for. Well, I'll tell you what

549
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: you are wanted for. So I am getting these emails

550
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: for this, this lovely show, this premiere, and I couldn't

551
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: make it because I was on the East coast and

552
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: I'm all like, wait a minute, is this Debora Joy show?

553
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: By the way, when I say your name, I say

554
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: it with an accent depa Joy do? What do I do?

555
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: It's very say why why are you offended by that?

556
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: Am I doing something wrong? Because I feel like I'm

557
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: culturally appropriating and I'm all like, never Joy, deble Joy,

558
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: look deble Joy. The first in the middle name. Is it?

559
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: Is that all one name? By the way, is it

560
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: deb Joy? Is it just Deborah?

561
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: But but I'm like, I don't like Deborah alone.

562
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I've never heard. And we mostly call you Joy.

563
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: We mostly call you joy. We all we all call

564
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: her Joy. Y'all can call her Joy, your mama call

565
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: you Joy. I'm gonna call you Joy. I'm kidding. So

566
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: I find it interesting about what you talk about this

567
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: the color dynamic, because that never comes into play with me.

568
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: And I really and I'm really blessed because I just

569
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: never had that issue growing up. I was always brown.

570
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: But I did notice in college that they did prefer

571
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: women who were lighter in certain instances, they being men

572
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: in certain instances. But it never really permeated me or

573
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: affected me. I was just like, y'all stupid, I'm fine.

574
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: That's That's one thing my mama did give me is

575
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: a lot of confidence, no humility, lots of confidence. I

576
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: had to let the world burn me. I gave it

577
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: to me. Yeah, but you have this new show. I

578
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: just celebrated your birthday with you in coppo. It was fabulous, y'all.

579
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: It was fabuous. If y'all saw all those pictures, I

580
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: posted an Instagram. It was dep Joy's birthday and we

581
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: was living. It was a beautiful, beautiful experience. God, I'm

582
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: so blessed. I'm so blessed that I can have those

583
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: experiences and meet new people. You have a great crew

584
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: of wonderful people, and you brought all your crew together.

585
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: It was just beautiful. See us us Blacks just out

586
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: there living the highest of heights.

587
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: We were up there.

588
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: We were up there, girl, We was living.

589
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: We were we were throwing it and we was throwing

590
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: it a girl, We.

591
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: Were throwing it. Y'all. Go to the because we rented

592
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: a boat. Go to the boat pictures. I'm gonna have

593
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: to go by the way when this episode airs. I

594
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: hope my producer Jacquise and Dwayne remind me. I'm going

595
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: to post a series of photos so you can know

596
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: how we were living. Had a great time. But you

597
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: looked amazing. You were surrounded by so much love and

598
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: you and you, and you're so elegant and graceful with

599
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: it all, which is enviable, right, Like you have to

600
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: really pay attention to how you receive the love that

601
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: you give and how you share the energy with everybody

602
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: because you were sharing it. You and you and Terance

603
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: are so lovely that way. But then you have this

604
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: new show that you've been dying to talk about but

605
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: you can't because of the strike and all so this

606
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: stuff that's going on, and now it's here. How do

607
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: you feel about being the lead? My stomach, Oh my god,

608
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 2: my stomach hurt just jumped saying that for you. How

609
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: do you feel about being the lead on Tara Lake Drive? This? This? This?

610
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: This thriller, this anthology thriller. Kelly schooled me about today

611
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: in terms of anthology, the words, big words, and how

612
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 2: do you feel about it? I watched the promo. I mean,

613
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: you're great. I'm not even you're great. You're great, You're great,

614
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: You're You're a great actress. That's not even the how

615
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 2: do you feel about carrying a project?

616
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: So while we were in the middle of working, we

617
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: were shooting this in April and May of this year,

618
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: and I felt like I was in my bag. I

619
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: felt like I was just growing and hitting new strides.

620
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: So I felt really really good when we rapped and

621
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 1: I would always check in with the director and writer

622
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: and make sure he was getting what he wanted and

623
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: shout out to Jerry Lemoth because I met him and

624
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: you just never know how God is lining things up.

625
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: I met him while I was in the worst pain

626
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: of my life in Canada shooting that Christmas movie. He

627
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: was the director, Oh wow, and he kept saying, I

628
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: really want to work with you again. Now you hear

629
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: that in Hollywood and you're just kind of like, okay, sure, whatever,

630
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: And then he actually reached out. He reached out when

631
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: they were doing season two and I just had my

632
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: baby so I couldn't do it. And then he reached

633
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: out again when they were about to start season three,

634
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: and he was like, I am telling you as I write,

635
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: all I see is you. This has to happen. We

636
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: have to figure this out. And so we got our

637
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: teams together to figure it out. And so to work

638
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: with someone that had already worked with me and wanted

639
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: to work with me again. I am a fan of that.

640
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: I am a fan of going where you are embraced

641
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: and loved and celebrated because the work is already going

642
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: to be difficult. We shot seven episodes in twenty six days.

643
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: It was grueling, but to do it in a place

644
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: where you are loved and taken care of and celebrate

645
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: it means the world. And so it also created a

646
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Speaker 1: space for me to really grow and thrive. And so

647
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: I would always check in with him and He's like, no,

648
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: this is exactly what I wanted. And then some I'm like,

649
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: we're doing this. This is great. So when we wrapped,

650
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: I felt like I did what I did. And then

651
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: as we got closer to uh, that private screening, I

652
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh god, I invited people. Yeah, it is

653
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: my work going to stand. Am I enough? Am I

654
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: enough to carry a series?

655
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yes, I don't know, I don't know.

656
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, service Carrie, I got to answer for you.

657
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: You are ahead. I just I didn't know.

658
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: And when we sat there in that screening, first of all,

659
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: to do that with your people.

660
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: Who is the best, because I'm pretty sure everybody was

661
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: hyping you up. I don't know. I don't know. I

662
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: already know just.

663
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: My name coming on the screen and we were so

664
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Speaker 1: black that jo.

665
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: Never joy.

666
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: It was all of that. And then the first time

667
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: my face was on the screen, everybody went to cheering

668
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: and clapping, and I just was like oh. And then

669
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: we settled in and we watched two episodes and you

670
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: could hear a pin drop. Oh wow, the work is there.

671
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: The work is there. And then a lot of the

672
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: people that I have worked with, my Greenley family, my

673
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: friends that know me, that have seen me from the beginning,

674
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: were like, oh, joy, this is another level. Your work

675
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: is another level. Not only are you coming on here

676
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: and just sort of commanding with your presence alone, but

677
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: then you deliver. I said, oh, okay, so okay, I'm enough.

678
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm enough to lead a series, and I'm excited about it.

679
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: I am really excited about it. It's very different from

680
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: anything I've ever done. And it's good.

681
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: It's really good. Hey, guys, two things just happened. The

682
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: first thing is that she just gave me the name

683
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: of the podcast, I Am Enough, right, this is this

684
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: episode is called I Am Enough. The second thing is

685
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: what people who are forward facing rarely do. And I'm

686
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: talking about people who present their work, who have accolades,

687
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: who've done they rarely say it's good. You rarely tell

688
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: yourself how great you are or how good you are.

689
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 2: It's just hard. It's hard to do that. It's hard

690
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: to see it because We've been taught to pick ourselves

691
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: apart in a world that is picking us apart too,

692
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: So we join in for you to say it's good,

693
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: like I'm good means it's excellent. And I am so

694
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: proud of you for saying that out loud with conviction

695
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: and believing it and understanding, Yes, I am this good.

696
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: You're like I is it just me? I'm watching and

697
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: it's good. And by the way, it's streaming today, available

698
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: today today and today whenever this airs is today, that

699
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: means go down and stream it All Black Network, right, yes,

700
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: stream weekly?

701
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: Watch you new episode weekly?

702
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: Or how many did you drop? How many did they dropped? Today? One?

703
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: Just one?

704
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: Just one? So we just tuned us in. We got

705
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: to you just bringing us along, bringing us along, bringing

706
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: us along.

707
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: Seven episodes, seven episodes, baby, and they they continue to

708
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: grow with each episode. We got to watch two and yeah,

709
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: it's really it's really good. It's interesting. The writing is

710
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: very interesting.

711
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, wish I know what it's about. Can you

712
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: tell everybody what it's about? Can the anthology serious it's about? Way?

713
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, hold on, we're having class just by ourselves.

714
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: Tell everybody what it's about. Yes.

715
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: So Terror Lake Drive Season three, summer purge uh on

716
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: a family, a Georgian family who I play a teacher

717
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: who has two kids, very in debt, trying to find

718
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: a way out, and this summer she is trying to

719
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: figure out what all she can do to make some

720
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: extra money to keep her family afloat. And she mysteriously

721
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: inherits this multimillion dollar estate in a place called Lake Levy.

722
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: And when they go to check out the estate, things

723
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: start happening and all that glitters is not gold. And

724
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: it gets to a point where you have to figure

725
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: out what's important, how to maintain, how to keep your

726
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: family together, and how to.

727
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: Survive Dantan, Dantan and y'all dealing with Like, I mean,

728
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: it's good, y'all. I just okay, by the way, by

729
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: the way, I'm just talking about the trum, the trailers

730
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: and what I've been able to ascertain. I didn't get

731
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: to watch the full episode, but just the little bit

732
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: that I have been able to see, I was like,

733
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 2: I'm already mad, and I'm already locked in. I'm already

734
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: mad as a black person, and I'm already locked in,

735
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: and I'm ready to beat everybody up, but I love it.

736
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: I love it, I love it, I love it. Just

737
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: the joy. This is the joy, for double joy of joy.

738
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: Paying bills pressed fast forward, fast forward, That little fifteen

739
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Speaker 2: second sign will be right back in just a few moments.

740
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Speaker 4: Very Chappion and Cary Chappion is to be a champion

741
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 4: out of Champion and carry Chappion and carry Chatty out

742
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 4: a Champion and carry Chappie and and carry Chappy Sports

743
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 4: and Entertainment cant naked word. Harry Champion and Carrie Chappy

744
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: is to be a champion out of Champion and Carrie

745
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 4: Chappie and the girls out a champion and carry Sheppion

746
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 4: and Carrie Sheppy Entertainment can nae work you guys?

747
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: So so Deborah Joy says things like I'll just take

748
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: a a bit, and I've been using it ever since

749
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: because black people, our measurements are very bizarre. I'll be

750
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: there in a little bit. What is a little bit?

751
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: Uh right back? Real quick, real quick? What's real quick?

752
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: What exactly is a tange? What's a scoach?

753
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's a bit. It's just it's a bit,

754
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's just a bit. It's a tange.

755
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: You know.

756
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: I think it's self explanatory.

757
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just have a change. Like she was like,

758
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: I'm the one ready to drink wine as I'm doing

759
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: during this podcast, and she's like, I have a change.

760
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: I was like, what is a change? I don't know.

761
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 2: Is that a taste? What is it? So?

762
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: So a change is like put a tank of orange

763
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: juice in my champagne.

764
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to just a you get it. You

765
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: don't need to know the measurement, but you get it. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

766
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: I told someone I was I was sitting in the

767
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: makeup chair for some reason, the makeup trailer was hot,

768
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: and I said, who it is hot as the Dickens.

769
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: And my makeup artist was like, well, where's the Dickens?

770
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, where's that located? And why is it so hot?

771
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: There?

772
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: All the questions and why is it.

773
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: The Dickens?

774
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: Is a hot.

775
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: Is whatever you need it to be. It can be cold,

776
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: it can be hot as the Dickens.

777
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: This is hot as the Dickens up in here. Okay, Well,

778
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: whatever you will want. When you're trying to describe how

779
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: you have fun, what measurement is that we had so

780
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: much fun? It was like a ball of fun, a

781
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: load of fun. Is there a measurement for fun for you?

782
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: No, because I'm always having fun. I am always and

783
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: and I've learned this and I think my son, my

784
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: friend Anika told me the other day, she said, I

785
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: think this is just a gift of yours joy. And

786
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: it's not to say that life does not life, because

787
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: it does every single day. I think for me, I

788
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: just choose the joy. I just choose to be happy

789
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: because it is easy to just look at life and

790
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: linger on it and be sad at some of the

791
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: circumstances that you may find yourself in. But I just

792
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: choose to be happy because life is too short, and

793
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: so I don't have a measurement because I feel like

794
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: it's always me like I'm just jamming. I'm jamming on

795
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: the one all the time.

796
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: You are, and you always like I'm ready to finish

797
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: some Sorry, I excuse my friends. I have to like,

798
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: I won't start it, but I'll finished something. I'm ready

799
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: to be mad at somebody real quick when they give

800
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: me attitude, and you just be like, girl, I'm not

801
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: even I love that about you. I love that you're

802
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 2: like I don't have time for that like that person

803
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: is not even a worthy opponent, like, let's focus on

804
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: the joy to.

805
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: You, they're fully not. But also if my friend comes

806
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: to me Carrie talking about so and so did this,

807
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: then well yeah we need to do sure, Yeah, sure,

808
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: let's get.

809
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: I am Yeah, yeah, yeah we will. Yeah yeah, I don't.

810
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I'm not calling you a punk. No,

811
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: you will scrap. She will scrap, y'all. Don't get her

812
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 2: confused on set, praise the Lord, but she will scrap.

813
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 2: We will fight. Amen, So can we tell everybody about

814
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: before I let you go? First of all, I need you,

815
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: guys to really truly support this project. She is She's

816
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: a gift on screen and off screen, just a gift.

817
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: So we have to support. We have to support our

818
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: black projects. We have to support the people who who

819
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: stand in the gaps for us as a culture, especially

820
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: black women. We have to fight so many battles on

821
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: so many different levels. And when you are quote unquote

822
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: doing it all right and you're still fighting battles because

823
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: you're still not meeting requirements, you know the world is

824
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: not right. So we must support. We must watch, you guys, watch.

825
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: If you don't watch, I'm gonna beat you up. But

826
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: with that being said, can we talk about how much

827
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 2: fun we had for your fortieth birthday? She just dropped

828
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: Anika out Anika NONI rose, and I didn't know who

829
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: it was. I will be honest. I am the friend

830
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 2: who doesn't know any Hollywood stars there except I do know, Oprah,

831
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 2: I do know. I know. Yeah, you you've been living.

832
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: You've been living, You've been living.

833
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: We yeah, we and and you know, and shout out

834
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: to my husband and shout out.

835
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: To oh, oh, your husband did that. Your husband did that.

836
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: Her husband put together a really beautiful, elevated experience. Usually

837
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: Manna be like, you need, what do you need? You

838
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: need food? You needed it, and everything's fine. We're fine.

839
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: We had everything, everything, dinner, it was just beautiful. The

840
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: weekend of like you had you had eighteen events. You

841
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 2: had eighteen events. She had eighteen events for her forties.

842
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: I'm not coming to no more events. I'm done eighteen.

843
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: There were so many, there were so many, but he

844
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: just I told him, probably starting at like thirty six,

845
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: forty is going to be very special. And I need

846
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: you to understand that. He's known how big birthdays are

847
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: to me. Every birthday I'm going to celebrate every birthday,

848
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: but forty I was very vocal about I wanted to

849
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: be really amazing, and so at the top of the year,

850
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: he reached out to slow Meek, who is such an

851
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: amazing event planner. She has so many incredible ideas and

852
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: she does things very much so tailored to who you are.

853
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: And so I had a surprise brunch where it was

854
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: just all of these amazing women in my life who

855
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: I love dearly, and it was stunning. It was gorgeous.

856
00:48:59,560 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 4: I love.

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00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: I had never seen a flower bar. You could make

858
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: your own bouquet. There was a champagne bar, yes, because

859
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: we gonna drink some champagne. Okay. There was food, the flowers,

860
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: the chairs, everything was so beautiful. And then there was

861
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: a four string quartet playing all this rap. It was

862
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: it was fantastic, like it was bougie and black and

863
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: Detroit and it was all the things that I feel

864
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: like I am wrapped up in one and it was

865
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: so beautiful. From the brunch to the party where just

866
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: my people, it just felt like so much love. And

867
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing that I took away from my

868
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: birthday weekend, from all eighteen events, there was love. You

869
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: could cut that love with a knife. Everybody was there

870
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: because they wanted to be there, and I felt like

871
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: I was wrapped up in all the love I could fathom,

872
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: and that was really beautiful. A lot of times you

873
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: are focused on how you give that to the world.

874
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: To get that to your people and to feel like

875
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: come back to me was overwhelming and amazing. And I'm

876
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: still living high off that baby lit it.

877
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: Shout out to my man Terrence. He did a great job,

878
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 2: you guys. She got it, she got a winner. And

879
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: he's just Also I read that he was like, you

880
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 2: guys are really good friends, if not best friends before

881
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: you started dating. He's a really good friend. Like I

882
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: don't he's on my fair like that, but he could be.

883
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: I could call him and be like, I can call

884
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: Terrence to ask about you and what we do in

885
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: which I have in terms of the plans for the party.

886
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: And then it's thirty minutes later, I'm like, so, Like

887
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: I was saying, what should we like, He's just that person.

888
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 2: Do you want to tell them all your business?

889
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Mine is still in my son classes. Oh I know,

890
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: I'll keep it. Mine is still in my son's classes.

891
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: He will still he did steal them, uh huh and

892
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: wore them as.

893
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 2: If they were his. Steal them, Yeah, to be your

894
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 2: own people. Yeah, and I should just give those. I

895
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 2: need to retire them. That I still wear them, I

896
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 2: need to retire them and just give them to him

897
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: because he did look better. I didn't want to dontell him.

898
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 2: I said that he did look better, the hair, the

899
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: friend better, you know, I mean it was his whole

900
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: It was no, but his whole aesthetic was better than mine.

901
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: I was like, this is your vibe, this belongs to you.

902
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: It was a moment.

903
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you were working on. I purposely

904
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: shied away from people asking you to sing all the

905
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: time because you could do that too if you chose to.

906
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 2: But right now, my friend's and actress. So don't be

907
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 2: asking her to sing when you meet her because she

908
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: ain't gonna do that. Okay, don't be like, oh, your

909
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: last name is why and can you just sing a

910
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: song real quick?

911
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: Except if you're Carrie and I did I do ask

912
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: dinner and she asked you after each course is brought out, like,

913
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: are you like it's gonna have to change? Like the

914
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: answers gon't change. The ANSWER's gon't change. I was like,

915
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, she's gonna she asked again.

916
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 2: And she get on my nerves with the singing question. Well,

917
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: because well, when you do it so just naturally and

918
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: off the cuff is so beautiful. You guys that night

919
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: when I tell you, I was so blessed to be

920
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 2: around just talent like it was you, it was Nica,

921
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: it was Merle and we were doing karaoke and people

922
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 2: are just so talented. I'm like, wow, Wow, it was electric, y'all.

923
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: It was electric, and I'm just happy I was there, Like,

924
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: I'm just happy to.

925
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: Say, Carrie, because I see All Star Search. Look, yes,

926
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: there is that, but I think that I've been surrounded

927
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: by just full on black excellence. I see that in you,

928
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: I see that in Jamel, I see that in Kelly,

929
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: I see that in all of my friends Jane's, Kristen, Meghan,

930
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: Jakarius Eaves Like, we are surrounded by so much beautiful

931
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: black elegance, excellence.

932
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 4: And.

933
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: I if felt like the the Harlem Renaissance, you know

934
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: me with all these amazingly talented playwrights, actors, people coming

935
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: together and just talking, leaning in, loving on each other.

936
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: That's what it felt like yeah, and I was. I

937
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: was blessed to be in that mix, to be part

938
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,439
Speaker 1: of that. It's just thank you for bringing us together, people,

939
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: But thank you for bringing us all together. That was beautiful. Well,

940
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: should I think Terrence? I think Terrence? You know, sure,

941
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: maybe I know you.

942
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: I know you curated the list? Should I think Terrence? Though?

943
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: It was beautiful? Yeah, I'm posting. I'm posting. Go to

944
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 2: my go to my Instagram. When y'all hear this and

945
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: you said, I'm gonna do a couple of clicks and

946
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: tags and you'll be like, oh, I see it was

947
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: the Harlem Renaissance. Is that the Okay? Never mind, I'm

948
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 2: all over the place because I'm like, is that the

949
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: name of this podcast?

950
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 4: No?

951
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: I am enough because you are enough. Glad you are enough,

952
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: and you remind me that I'm enough. And I'm so

953
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 2: grateful for your friendship. I'm so grateful that I I

954
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: am your cup of tea. I'm so grateful you are

955
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 2: my cup of tea. Here everybody's cup of tea, though,

956
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: but thank you for that. I love you so much.

957
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: Deper joy wine is debleh Joy, debleh Joy. It's just

958
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: a page of time. But she was here. Double joy.

959
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: I love you, thank you so much, just for a

960
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: that beautiful smile, those beautiful eyes on naked being naked.

961
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: I hope you guys have been blessed by her. See

962
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: you next week.