1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation master Class. I am your host, 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Rashaan McDonald. I recognize that we all have different definitions 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: of success. For you, it may be the size of 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: your paycheck. Mine has inspired people to accomplish their goals 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: and live their very best life. The very best life 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: may be different for a lot of you guys out there. 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories, really 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: and start writing your own. People always talk about their 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: purpose or their gift, jumping out on faith without a plan. 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Where if you have a gift, leave with that gift 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: and don't let your friends, family, or coworker stop you 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: from planning or living your dream. My guest is Judge 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: Faith Jenkings. She's an attorney, Arbitrary Arbitrary arbitrator, author, and 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: Emmy nominate the host of Divorce Court. That's where you 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: know her. That face looks familiar, that forced s sounds 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: for me. That is her. Had the good fortune of 17 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: meeting her several years ago with my good friend attorney 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: civil rights attorney Benjamin Crump introduced to me and a 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: relationship for him there and I've been watching her from 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: a far just admiring her rise in this industry. She's 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: on the longest running TV courd show. She's also has 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: a new crime series, Kill a Relationship with Faith Chickens. 23 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: I'm telling you I love those type of shows. It 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: airs on Oxygen. The series take his deep dive at 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: the heart, stopping evil stories of love going horribly bad, 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: faith to brides, unparalleled insight too into every case where 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: a breakup means one thing, someone's going to die. We're 28 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: going to talk about her career and both those shows, 29 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: but let me tell you why she really owned Money 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: Making Conversation Masterclass. I also want to talk about her 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: relationship book, since Don't Settle, How to Stay Smart and 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: Matters of the Heart is an awesome of love, wisdom 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: and advice for women on how to play it smart 34 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: and the dating and relationship game. Please work with the 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Judge Faith Jenkins, how you done? Judge? However, Seawan, 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: how are you? Thank you so much for welcoming That 37 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: was an amazing introduction. And I know that you know 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: we're starting this business, you know, just trying to get 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: in and then this too is kind of interesting. You 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: you fight to get in, then you have to fight 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 1: to stay and and then you want to you want 42 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: to stay with options. I see you're starting to diversify. 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: Like I said, we mentioned Oxygen that showed that you're 44 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: doing to kill a relationship with with branding your name, 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: attaching your name, and not just kill a relationship, is 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: selling your name as well. And this new book. But 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: let's go back to the first really big opportunity that 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: came away with divorce court. How did that come about 49 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: and how did that change your perspective on what you 50 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: wanted to do with your career because this is entertainment. Well, 51 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: what what happened is I was in New York working 52 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: as a prosecutor for about eight years. I've been working 53 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: in New York. I started a big law firm. Then 54 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: I moved to work for the government. And after I 55 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: left the prosecutor's office, I got a call to be 56 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: on television just to talk about a high profile case 57 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: and give my legal opinion on the case. And then 58 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: the George Zimmerman trial happened, right and I was called 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: to opine on the George Zimmerman trial every day of 60 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: the case, and I would be on Fox News, MSNBC, 61 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: and CNN all in the same day. That's how I 62 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: met your your friend been been crumped during that time period. 63 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: So after that someone when when Hank Cohen tells this story, 64 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: he's the executive producer by very first Court show, he 65 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: said he saw me on one night with Al Sharpton 66 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: and the next night I was on with Bill O'Reilly, 67 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: and he said, if she can handle those two audiences 68 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: she has brought up Hill, she can probably be on 69 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: TV to do anything. And so that's when I got 70 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: my first step branching out doing court television. Well, it's 71 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: interesting you say that because some people say I would 72 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: never do this type of show because because they're extremes there. 73 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: You know, you have that conservative Fox audience and now 74 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: that you know liberal or left side of the wing 75 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: of the of the MSNBC audience, Why did you choose 76 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: not to take a side? Well, my job was to 77 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: provide lee goal analysis and give my objective opinion on 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: the case, and so that opinion didn't change with the 79 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: differences in the audiences political opinions. So I wasn't a 80 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: political commentator. And even at some point they asked me 81 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: to start giving political commentary and I decided not to 82 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: because my job was to illegal analysts that is my dog. Um, 83 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: so I decided to that was my decision. I knew 84 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: what my area of expertise was and that was to 85 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: give legal commentary. And so I just decided to stay 86 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: true to what I was really there to do and 87 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: be an expert on there was day in your lane 88 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: and grow your brand. So was it in the mindset 89 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: because like I said, you were a prosecuted So did 90 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: television dropped into your lap? Was that was that a 91 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: lane that you were thinking about, judge faith that you 92 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: are getting into television? And then so now you was 93 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: getting these opportunities to hone your skills and these little 94 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: short bursts, you know, because I know that you talk 95 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: and then you leave. How how you think I did? 96 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: Do you think they reacted? They call you back and go, Okay, 97 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: they're calling me back. That's a good thing. So when 98 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: did you feel that you have value on these in 99 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: the television games? Well, I knew it was important to 100 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: add my perspective to the cases that we're being discussed 101 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: as a black woman, as a former prosecutor, and I 102 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: know a lot of times, you know, prosecutors get a 103 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: bad rap and people talk about not wanting to be 104 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: in their field because they could never put people in jail. 105 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: I've heard all those things. But at the same time, 106 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: you can't just want to be an activist. If you 107 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: really want to see and change, you have to be 108 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: a part of it, and you have to have a 109 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: seat at the table. Prosecutor job is a very powerful job. 110 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: A lot of times what would happen with someone's case 111 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: would literally depend on who got their case. So if 112 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: I got a case and I would look at that 113 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: case and it was a young, you know, person from Harlem, 114 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: which is where I was living at the time, I 115 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: would have a different perspective than a lot of my 116 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: colleagues across the hall from me, who would who would 117 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: have handled that case differently. So it was very important 118 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: for me to add my perspective and bring my experience 119 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: and my background to that job. And I had one 120 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 1: job only and that was to do justice in my cases, 121 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: to do but what I believe was right. So when 122 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: it came time to calling on me for television, they 123 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: were looking for people like me who could add a 124 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: different perspective and opinion when giving analysis on these cases. Okay, 125 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: all the world of the world of the media, we 126 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: live in this social media okay, and social media tends 127 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: to have an opinion and troll you good or bad. 128 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 1: So when you're bouncing because you're starting to develop your career, 129 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, your social media is starting to grow and 130 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: people start in that comments. Did you have any negative 131 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: feedback on planing these different sides on your on your 132 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: social media feed and how did you handle that? Yes? 133 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: And but I developed a thick skin pretty early on Rashana. 134 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: I started doing pageants down in the South and years old, 135 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: so I was used to a certain level of just 136 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: criticism in general. And I think that any time you're 137 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: in the public eye, no matter what you're doing, you 138 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: are going to get some type of criticism. So when 139 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: you have to learn really early on, and as you 140 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're aware as well being in front of 141 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: the camera, you just have to develop thick skin. You 142 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: believe in what you're doing and you believe in the message. 143 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: You know, they say new levels, new devils, you hire 144 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: your visibility. The more you're gonna have people who criticize you, 145 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: the more you're gonna have people who like you. But 146 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: you can never allow your self esteem and how you 147 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: feel about yourself to be built up on people's compliments 148 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: or being torn down by their criticism. You have to 149 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: know who you are. It's actually when when you're in 150 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: the business that we're in and be confident and that 151 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: you're presenting your best self to the world no matter 152 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: what people are saying. Absolutely, here's something interesting, you know, 153 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna go to the divorce court. 154 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: I want to slide over to the forensic world of 155 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: killer relationships and I'm gonna tell you something. I get 156 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: up at four thirty, I go downstairs when I'm working 157 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: out doing my stretches. You know Forensic File that I 158 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: am a junkie for Forensic File type shows, and so 159 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: it comes on a every half hour and I'm working 160 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: out and last I know the last two minutes they're 161 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: gonna get a verdict and what happened to that person? 162 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: So what? Because I guess you you're talking to asking 163 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: the question for a person like me. It's kind of 164 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: like addictive television. What attracted you to the project Killer Relationships? 165 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: And what do they say the type of people who 166 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: watch these type of shows true crime. For some reason, 167 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: I too, am really fascinated by the genre, and I 168 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: think there's something about the good versus evil, and there's 169 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: also something about getting to the bottom of what happened 170 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: in telling the story, and everyone wants to know the 171 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: answer to one question and that is why. So we 172 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: really get caught up in in those stories because they 173 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: are real. I start, I branched out. I started my 174 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: own production company, and this is the first show that 175 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: I've created that I'm executive producing. I did it because 176 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: I believe that there should be a diversity of voices 177 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: in storytelling, and I wanted to add my name and 178 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: my perspective to this genre. So this is the first 179 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: show from my production company. I think that with these 180 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: types of shows, not only is it fascinating to watch 181 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: and learn, but it's also it could be a learning 182 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,119 Speaker 1: tool because you're looking at all kinds of red flags. 183 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: For this show, in particular, I wanted to pull from 184 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: two worlds that I was in. The word of relationships, 185 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: which I started very early on in my career appearing 186 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: in family court in New York, and the world of 187 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: the criminal investigations. I'm a trained investigator, that's what I 188 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: learned to do as a prosecutor, and have this show 189 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: because relationships is something that we can all relate to. 190 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: We all have them, whether it's a love relationship, of 191 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: family relationship, or friendship. And so I wanted to dig 192 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: into the world of relationships and how those relationships start out, 193 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: how they turn, and what makes someone commit such an 194 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: extreme act. In the end, we'll be right back with 195 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: more Money Making Conversations Master Class with Rashan McDonald. Now, 196 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald, 197 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: right and now. Because when I was you're absolutely right. 198 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: I always tell my my wife, I go, you know, 199 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: if something was to happen to you, then they would 200 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: just look at my records where he watches Forensic File. 201 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: He this guy's a plotter. Yeah, I believe my DNA 202 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: is set up that if something bad and I'm going 203 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: to jail, I woan because my my track records so bad. 204 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking at these crazy cases all the time. So 205 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: they would say he got the idea from watching First 206 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: and Files and some type of like Killer Relationships with 207 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: Faith Jenkins. Do you like these types of shows? So 208 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: you plot to her murder, you plotted under Eyes And 209 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: I do like them in the sense of, first of all, 210 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: they're startling to me, and it's like the word how 211 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: could that happen? Why did they do that? And I 212 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: always get I always this was the thing that always 213 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: bothered me. You can get a divorce, you can you 214 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: can get a point, you can actually just say hey, 215 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm out. It's it's that simple. But they go to 216 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: the darkest side of it all. It's and that's where 217 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: the greed part comes out of it. And that's what's 218 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: the selling point of Killer Relationship is that they could 219 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: have just walked away, they could have went through the 220 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: proper channels and got a divorce, but they wanted it all. 221 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: They didn't want Nanny seventy definitely didn't want They wanted 222 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: all with that is that the single thing that you 223 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: saw as well, and these stories you're telling, that is 224 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: a big theme and the reason you'll find that most 225 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: of the individuals in these cases go to the lens. 226 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: They do. There's another theme throughout the season you'll see, 227 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: and that is everybody has a secret, right the lins 228 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: that these people are willing to go through to keep 229 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: their secrets from being revealed and exposed. Wow wow, Well, 230 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: let's let's slide over a little bit of relationships. Now, 231 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: divorce cores okay, sitting on that, but the people coming 232 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: in there with these with these emotional moments, and you 233 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: what what now have you learn the most about that experience? 234 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: And what what do you value it? It's two questions, 235 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: what do you learned the most and what do you 236 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: value the most about that experience? Because to me, it 237 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: leads into your writing your book that we're about to 238 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: talk in the next next subject matter here, Yes and 239 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: Divorce Court has been an amazing experience. I hosted the 240 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: show for two seasons and this is actually my last 241 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: year hosting it because I am moving in a different 242 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: direction with my production company. But I learned a lot 243 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: from hearing all of the different issues and perspectives that 244 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: people brought into the courtroom. Number One, I learned that 245 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: people don't most people don't have relationship problems. They have 246 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: problems they bring into their relationship. A lot of the 247 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: issues I heard were issues that were unresolved in people's lives, 248 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: and when you're bringing all of that into a relationship, 249 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: a healthy relationship is not something you attracted, something you create, 250 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: and you can't create a healthy relationship if you have 251 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: two unhealthy people coming together. So that for me was 252 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: just solidified what I knew about that and I did 253 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: my absolute best to try to enlighten a lot of 254 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: the couples that came into the courtroom so that when 255 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: they left the courtroom, they feel like they're leaving with 256 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: something greater than when they came, even when they're going 257 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: their separate ways. And I also encouraged them to most 258 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: of us have been through a breakup at some point 259 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: in our lives at one point or another. I encourage 260 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: them to move forward in that breakup with compassion and 261 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: empathy and understanding. Of course, it's a difficult time in 262 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: your life, but it doesn't mean you have to try 263 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: to destroy the other person on your way out the door. 264 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: So that was a really important principle for me to 265 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: share as well. We'll be right back with more Money 266 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now let's return to 267 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now, sis don't sell. 268 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: I have six sisters and you know married divorce of 269 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: some relationships. I thought, why are you messing with this person? 270 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: You as a as a female, And then then I'm 271 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: also looking at divorce court. I'm putting that in my 272 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: mind when I'm reading it, I'm saying you you can 273 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: see this all the time with Steve Harvey is a 274 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: Strawberry letter. I felt divorce Court was your Strawberry letter, 275 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, for for this book. You know, because you 276 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: get to see it and you make these crafty, smart 277 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: decisions with these people and you get to see how 278 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: they interact. And when you did, Steve Harvey did Strawberry 279 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: letter for five days a week. He was responding to 280 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: emotional letters that allowed him to craft his mindset. How 281 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: did you craft your mindset? Was it divorce court? Was 282 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: it girlfriend's? It was just past relationship? What started this 283 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: whole systems selling? Need to put it on paper? M hm. 284 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: And this, the second part of that title, really says 285 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: at all how to stay smart in matters of the heart. 286 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to write about. It actually started 287 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: prior to me doing television, when I started working in 288 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: family court in New York. My first court appearances were 289 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: in family court in New York handling divorces, child custody, 290 00:15:54,840 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: UH child um, child support cases. And then from there 291 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: I was also living my old life as a single 292 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: woman in New York City, so I didn't get married 293 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: until after I turned forty years old. And what happened 294 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: is I had this career that everyone around me deemed 295 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: was so successful, but people started asking me why I 296 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: wasn't married, why I was still single when I was 297 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: going to settle down all of these questions and I 298 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: didn't think being single was something I needed to explain 299 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: or defend. That was just my journey at the time. 300 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: There are lessons that I needed to learn. I needed 301 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: to learn a lot about relationships because I didn't have 302 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: this huge standard of what loved looked like in my life. 303 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: Growing up. People talk about relationships being a science and 304 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: dating as an art. I knew none of it. And 305 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: we prepare just like you prepare for your show. I 306 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: prepare when I was in law school for exams. We 307 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: prepare for everything in life that we want to be 308 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: successful for, but a lot of us don't prepare for relationships. 309 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: Why is that? So I started learning to prepare myself 310 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: for the relationship that I wanted and what that looked 311 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: like and what that meant for me. And I pulled 312 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: from all of the experiences that I had with women 313 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: in family court, with women in divorce court, my own 314 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: personal life and dating experiences, and I combined those to 315 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: put them in the book because I got married after 316 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: our turn forty. I had a lot of a dating experiences. 317 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: I had a lot of lessons that I learned the 318 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: hard way. But the moral of the story is I 319 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: met my husband. He's an amazing man. I'm happily married. Now. 320 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: If I would have waited to live my best life 321 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: after because I was waiting on a partner, I would 322 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: have spent half of my adult life just existing and 323 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: not really living. Right. Well, you know, it's interesting because 324 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: you got own production company. I see a TV show 325 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: at this book now, you know, especially a postpartia because 326 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 1: see you talk about Ali mcbell. You know, like they 327 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: made a big deal when she turns thirty. You know, 328 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 1: like what are you doing? And so so as soon 329 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: as you start talking about that, I went to that 330 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: section of the book, you know. And then because we 331 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: we are hit with deadlines. You know, he supposed graduating 332 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: high school eight team a twenty two year, supposed to 333 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: be out of college, you know, thirty, twenty nine, thirty, 334 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: where's your man, where's your child? Where's your career? So 335 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: you hear with all these markers in life, and basically 336 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: that's what you you're just taking those same markers and 337 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: applying it to emotion and not being swayed by what 338 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: other people say you should be doing I think you 339 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: should be doing. Is that correct? That is correct? These 340 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: are arbitrary timelines. Who decides we're not running a race 341 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: in life because we're not all running in the same direction, 342 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: so it can't be a race. There are almost eight 343 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: billion people on this planet. We can't all be doing 344 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: the same things at the same time. And so a 345 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: part of this book is encouraging people to embrace their 346 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: own personal journey and ignore the noise because guess what, 347 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: the question don't stop. As soon as you get married, 348 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: they started asking you when you're gonna have kids. You 349 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: have one child, they started asking when you're gonna have 350 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: another one. So that's why you have to decide early 351 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: on that you're gonna live your best life right where 352 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: you are and embrace your journey. And it is okay 353 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: if your journey includes your personal choice not to marry, 354 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: not to have children, and no one else. You can't 355 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: let anybody else put that kind of pressure on you 356 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: to make a decision because they believe in then arbitrary 357 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: timeline that you don't right. It was, it was it was, 358 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, always such chapters stick out for me, you know, 359 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: and I had to go to wait for Sex. But 360 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: let me explain that chapter right there, because everybody feels 361 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: a pressure to two Uh, that's part of the relationship. 362 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: Why was that an important part? You know, I know why, 363 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: But I would like for you to tell my listeners 364 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: and my viewers when you said wait for sex. I 365 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: know it's referencing a woman, but also shouldn't that be 366 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: said to a guy to the stop putting an unnecessary 367 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: pressure on a woman that's part of her role in 368 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: the racial relationship that she has to have sex with him. Well, 369 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: one thing about the book is, although it's called Systems Settled, 370 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: I really wrote it and talked about universal SYS standards 371 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: for love for anyone to read. And I've had several 372 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: guys come to me and say they they've enjoyed many 373 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: aspects of the book. That was an important chapter because 374 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: it really is about what are your goals for love 375 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: in your life? What is it that you really want 376 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: to accomplish? I say the very beginning of my book, 377 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: this book is not for everyone. If you're looking to 378 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: just have a sex buddy that you can hook up with, 379 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: from time to time, and that's your goal. This is 380 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: this is really probably not the book for you. If 381 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: you're trying to lock down your booker from the barbershop 382 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: who you see once a month, this is probably not 383 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: the read for you. This book is really about people 384 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: who are on this journey to attract that authentic long 385 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: term love and partnership in marriage if that's what they want. 386 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: So that part, when I got to that part about 387 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: waiting for intimacy in a relationship, it really is about 388 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: establishing a foundation with someone and establishing boundaries in your 389 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: relationship and getting to know a person and what they're 390 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: really looking for, and establishing boundaries should not scare off 391 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: a person who is ready, willing and able for authentic love, 392 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: you know, the the you know. I want to tell you, 393 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: first of all, enjoyed the book. I enjoyed the book 394 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: because of the fact that that's why I brought the 395 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: thing about the guy you know, Like I said, because 396 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people read a book and they see 397 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: you on it, Oh Jesus men, bashing you know, you know, 398 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: And that's not at all. I want to make sure 399 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: I said that. That's what I'm just saying is that 400 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: when you said wait for sex, and that should be 401 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: both ways. Because men, I'm a man, we feel can 402 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: put that undue pressure that Okay, this is part of 403 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: the you know, this part of the dinner, this part 404 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: of the day, that's part of the week. You now, 405 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: we're supposed to be doing some other than just talking, 406 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: and that's the pressure instead of getting to know the person. 407 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: So it's also in your book you kind of like 408 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: set aside defining what their relationsip ship is so they 409 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: can understand what you want out of it, because a 410 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: lot of women don't set those I guess I want 411 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: to say rules, but this is how what I want. 412 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: Are you willing to be? Is am I correcting? Assuming 413 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: that's that's there is the correct approach correct A big 414 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: part of it is communicating and knowing who you are 415 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: and knowing where you are at this point in your 416 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: life and being honest about that. If you're not looking, 417 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: if someone tells you that they're just looking for a 418 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: casual relationship, they're not looking for marriage, then we got 419 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: to stop trying to convince people to change their mind. 420 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: That that's not our job. Accept people when they tell 421 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: you what their goals are, when they tell you where 422 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: they are right now in their life path accepted. So 423 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: if that's not where you are, then it's out for 424 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: you to pivot and go in another direction. So that's 425 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: what I talked about in the book. When you talk 426 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: about opening honest communication, when someone tells you believe them 427 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: and and then decide you can go in a different 428 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: direction if you're not on the same life path at 429 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: that point, well, you know, I talked about it in 430 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: my opening. I always talk about don't let you from 431 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: his family, the coworkers, stop you from playing a living 432 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: in your dreams. That's what your book is about, you know, 433 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: don't let people tell you that you're thirty, you you're 434 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: out of the game, you farty, you out of the game, 435 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: or that you know that you can't get claim. But 436 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: I think the book that I got the most out 437 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: of your book, you know, syst don't sell how to 438 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: state how to stay smart than the matters of the heart, 439 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: was that the decisions you make should be the decisions 440 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: that justify your path. Like you said, you got married 441 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: in forty and the age and people will people in 442 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: that you're attractive, you're successful. Then they put that old thing, 443 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: what's the problem, and then they start making like you're 444 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: the problem, and so so this book tells you stop 445 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: all that madness. I am not the problem. I have 446 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: control of my life and I will meet the right 447 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: person that understands who I am as a person that 448 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: really was was singing out and really was the champion. 449 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: Message that I took away from chapter after chapter that 450 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: you know, women, especially this day and age with social media, 451 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: with you being able to practic glass ceiling, being able 452 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: to women are the fastest, especially Black women, the fastest growing. 453 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you, by the way, this book 454 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: is not women written for Black women white women. Is 455 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: women for women. So this is not a racial book. 456 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: This is a book that allows you to see that 457 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: we all women have to deal with the same issues. 458 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: We all need to be able to cultivate the same 459 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: understanding that we can be successful. And reading this book, 460 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: since don't settle how to stay smart in the matters 461 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: of the heart, allows you that journey. That is what 462 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: my takeaway was. And and I wanted to bring you 463 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: on the show. I know we're gon. We talked about 464 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: the divorce cord and you know, kill a relationship, but 465 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: I just had that and I want to support this book. 466 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: I want to put put the you know, the part 467 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: of the the snippets of this interview on my social media 468 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: just to drive traffic and let people know this is 469 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: a book that that's a must read. Uh is a 470 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: It's a quality read, and and you will take away 471 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 1: nuggets that I think that would make you honestly feel 472 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: not so disappointed in your life or alone in your experiences, 473 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: right right, And and that's why I wrote it. Everything 474 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: you said is why I wrote it, because this is 475 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: something that I would have wanted to read as a 476 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: single person, as a person who wanted to learn more 477 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: about relationships. Because we're always trying to educate ourselves. That's 478 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: why we read, that's why we listen to the podcast, 479 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: that's why we watch shows like yours, because we are 480 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: trying to educate ourselves so that when we move forward, 481 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: we can make better decisions. When you know better, you 482 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: do better. So that's why I wrote about this book. 483 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: I want people to use it as a practical guide 484 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: to attract the kind of relationship they really want and 485 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: deserve in their life. She's an incredible legal mind, you 486 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: know as the host of the wars Cord. She's a 487 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: she has her own production company Show Now she's producing 488 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: television shows. Kill a relationship with Facijenkins Now. She's an 489 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: incredible author. Her book, Relationship Book says, don't settle, how 490 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: to stay smart in the matters of the heart. Guys, 491 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: pick it up. It's a much read for YouTube because 492 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: we all need to know how they're thinking. They're thinking too, okay, 493 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: and if you understand how they think, you could probably 494 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: get the right mate in your life. Faith Jenkins, thank 495 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: you for coming. Excuse me, judge, Faith Jenkins, thanks for 496 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: coming on my show. Okay, thank you. It's great to 497 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: see you again. And I will support this. I'm telling 498 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: you I will, all right, Thank you, Thank you so much. 499 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: You wanted to hear thee any interviews of money on 500 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: any of my interviews on Money Making Conversation master Class, 501 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: please go to Money Making Conversation dot com. I'm with 502 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I am your host. You've been listening to 503 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Always remember to 504 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: lead with your gifts. Money Making Conversations Masterclass is a 505 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: presentation of thirty fifteen Media Incorporated