1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Get up, Get just get up? 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: What is up? 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: Mets fans? 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of the Mets Up Podcast, 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: Episode number one fifty nine. 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: We have some things to talk about today. 7 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: It's been a little bit of a commer week in 8 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Mets world. 9 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: Not too too much going on. 10 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: There were some press conferences today, We've got some international 11 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: prospects signings. We also do, unfortunately, have some sad news 12 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: for you guys. Frank Thomas, one of the original Mets, 13 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: has passed away at ninety three years old, so, you know, 14 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: condolences out to the Thomas family. He was there for 15 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: Old Timers Day. I was lucky enough to get to 16 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: talk to him for a couple of minutes. Was a 17 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: really nice guy, obviously a lot of history. Born in Pittsburgh, 18 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: was on the Pirates for a long time of his 19 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: career along with the Mets. 20 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: Had some great years with the Mets too, right, James, Yeah, 21 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: Frank Thomas. 22 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: Frank Thomas led the Mets franchise in home runs in 23 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: total for the first three years he spent here until 24 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,319 Speaker 3: ninety sixty five. John also mentioned before that I think 25 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: he had the single season record until Dave Kingman broke it, 26 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: which was the eighties. 27 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 4: That's correct. And also I just read this. He and 28 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 4: Frank the Big Hurt wasn't ducked to the Hall of Fame. 29 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 4: Went to Cooperstown signing autographs, and he said, tongue in cheek, 30 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 4: my name will always be in the National Baseball Hall. 31 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: I like that. 32 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 5: That's great. 33 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: I like that. 34 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean, like in the brief conversation I 35 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: had with him, he was a guy who he would 36 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: just say anything. He was. 37 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: He was ready to let it loose, you know whatever. 38 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: He was a smart guy. He was witty. I liked it. 39 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: He also went to high school in Canada, which is 40 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: probably pretty abnormal for baseball players in the nineteen fifties 41 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: and sixties. He had an incredible run with the Pirates 42 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: two through the nineteen fifties. Yeah, three time All Star. 43 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: He had one hundred and sixty one home runs from 44 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: nineteen fifty three and nineteen fifty eight, a parts some 45 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: very good Pirates teams. 46 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: It's a high mark for that time, one hundred percent. 47 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: Like you said, he was a great met to having 48 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: the franchise record for home runs for the first three years. 49 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: Rest and peace, Frank Thomas. Condolences to the Thomas family. 50 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: You know, it's unfortunate, but yeah, happy you guys to 51 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: the ballpark pulling uniform one last time. 52 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Definitely that was very cool. 53 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely something that I'm sure he appreciated. Now to 54 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: talk about some other stuff going on in Mets world, 55 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: there was a press CONVERERCE to day reintroducing Adam Otravino 56 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: and introducing Omar Nirvayez, so we got to see add 57 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: a little bit some comments from them. You guys know 58 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: the drill with the press conference. It's a lot of 59 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: the same really at the end of the day, I didn't. 60 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: Think it was cool that Norvaya's did specifically mention the 61 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 3: opportunity to mentor Francisco Alvarez being a catcher being Venezuelan. 62 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty cool that he was able 63 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: to make that connection. See that, just see the relative 64 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: importance of this prospect coming up this year. I'm just 65 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 3: really excited to watch Adam Outavino just exist as a 66 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: human for at least another season or two, because he 67 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 3: is one of the most peculiar. 68 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 2: Players that I've ever seen. Guy walks around barefoot in 69 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: the outfield. When we asked him what he was listening 70 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: to before the game. He's like a just some lo 71 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: fi hip hop music on YouTube, like the dude he's is. 72 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: Eccentric the right word? 73 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, look at me getting vocabulary words right today, But 74 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: eccentric dude, and of course his intro song kid Cutty. 75 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: It's absolutely amazing. 76 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: There's also a new opportunity for someone to be eccentric 77 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 3: in the bullpen without Trevor May being here this year. Yeah, 78 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: so there's a little bit more eccentric us. I don't 79 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: even know, it's a little more space for more etcric eccentricness, eccentricity. 80 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: I don't think that's worthy of that, Okay, but it 81 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: sounds like word. It sounds all right, It sounds all right. Listen, 82 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: glad those guys are back on Andervis. You know, we've 83 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: talked about him before, you guys know the drill. But 84 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: I think what was really interesting is that we did 85 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: see Billy Eeppler answer some questions from the press, and 86 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: in that he did basically say that the Mets are 87 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: gonna be looking for a fourth outfield option and some 88 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: bullpen options. 89 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: So you guys know, on this podcast, we love talking 90 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: about depth. 91 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: It's like one of our favorite things to talk about 92 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: is all the relievers and all the backup guys that 93 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: could fill out this roster with I mean, who do 94 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: you think sticks out to you right now? 95 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: James's guys that you would be going after. 96 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: The ones who make the most sense right now are 97 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: definitely Adam Duval, Tommy fam Jerks and Profar. But there's 98 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: always this weird conundrum that happens to good teams this 99 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: point in the offseason, where you want to pay a 100 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: guy to sit on your bench, but that player might 101 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: himself want to be someone who wants a job. Yeah, 102 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: we saw this last week, and there are rumors around 103 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: the Mets and Andrew McCutcheon and apparently they offered him more 104 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: money he wound up taking from the Pirates, allegedly, but 105 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: he wanted the opportunity to try and play, not even 106 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: every day, but just a lot of days. And you 107 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: come to a team like the Mets that's already very 108 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: very tough right now in terms of playing time in 109 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: the starting lineup. It's hard to really guarantee anybody playing time. 110 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: But those three stick out to me just as players 111 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: with some pop, with ce decent play discipline. For Famin Profar, 112 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: who can play some good outfield more so in terms 113 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: of Duval. You're ever gonna get a perfect option right now. 114 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 3: But I do think that this team could use a 115 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 3: fourth outfielder. 116 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,119 Speaker 2: No, definitely, I think right now on the roster Khalil 117 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: Ly as Lissa's technically the fourth outfielder. 118 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: So not that Khlily is not. 119 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: Capable, but I think you'd like to go into the 120 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: season with a little bit more security than that. In 121 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: terms of relievers, the reliever market is still I don't 122 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: want to say it's deep, but it's it's the reliever market. 123 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: As we know, there's just guys that you can make 124 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: out of thin air. And some of the bigger names 125 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: that still are available on the reliever market Andrew Chaffin, 126 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: Michael Folmer of course, former met We know he was 127 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: around here for a little bit and part of a 128 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: big trade. 129 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: Chad Green still available. Did he get a big injury though? 130 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 5: Yeah? Very big? 131 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: Is he? 132 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: Tommy John? 133 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: I don't even know if it was Tommy John or 134 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 3: the racing Okay, oh, something bad, because I was I 135 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: was shocked when I saw his name because he was 136 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 3: really good with the Yankees for those for those three 137 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: or four years, two years ag he was twenty twenty one, 138 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: he was like one of the most valuable relievers in baseball, 139 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: but an injury would make sense there. 140 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 2: Matt Whistler is a guy by the way, Tommy John Okay, 141 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: Matt Whistler, Matt Moore had success. I mean, the names, 142 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: by no means are gonna like be like, whoa Matt 143 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: Moore is available? How have we not got this guy? 144 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: But there's definitely some good pitching available still in the 145 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: bullpen department. I like Follmer a lot in terms of 146 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: those options because he still throws relatively hard. 147 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: It's not like what he was in early when he 148 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: came up in his career, but he just still has 149 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: a very good slider. And we've seen the last few 150 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: years that the Tigers, the Tiger's player development and just 151 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: pitching code, like they'd seem to not get anything close 152 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: to the most out of any guy in their ty 153 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: roster for a very long time. So I think if 154 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 3: you get a guy like Follmer to come to a 155 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 3: team that has no much better pitching coordination, you could 156 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: get more out of him. And even even with this 157 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 3: bad team with horrible, horrible development resources in. 158 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: The organization, he still had a great slider. Yeah. 159 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: I Mean, one guy that's really interesting to me is 160 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: Alex Ray is that he's still available. I know he's 161 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: had some injury stuff the last few years, but one 162 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: he's like kind of a local kid. He grew up 163 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 2: in Elizabeth for a good chunk of time and played 164 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: out Elizabeth High School in New Jersey. So, I mean, 165 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: he had a great year with the Cardinals a couple 166 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: of years ago. He's got the stuff for sure. It's 167 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: always just been about kind of getting him to reign 168 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: in that control a little bit and just be on 169 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: the field. 170 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: That's one of the problems with Alex Rays. 171 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: But when you're talking about a guy who doesn't have 172 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: a job right now on January seventeenth, I'm sure you 173 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: could knock on his door. 174 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: Another couple of reclamation projects like that out there. I 175 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: remember it's Josh James from the Astros. 176 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: You love that guy. 177 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: I just throw on a hundred miles an hour with 178 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: a good slot and tell me why not give a 179 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: shot to a guy with one hundred miles an hour and 180 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: in a good slide there. 181 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: Well, Ken Giles is. 182 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 3: Still out there, but I don't know whatever's gonna happen. 183 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: With him, Keith Hembury. Keith Hembury still over. You know. 184 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: The one that I've been seeing that a lot of 185 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: people have been talking about recently too, is Zach Britton. 186 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: The Zach Britton conversation. Not necessarily that the Mets need 187 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: another lefty. I'm sure there are some Mets fans out 188 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: there that still maybe aren't comfortable with Brooks Rayley just 189 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: because it's a name they're not familiar with, because he's 190 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: played in Tampa, you know, last year in Houston before that. 191 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: But Zack Burton would be a nice left handed arm 192 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 2: to him as long as he's healthy. I mean, he's 193 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: a ground ball machine otherwise. 194 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: There's two other guys coming off major injuries who both 195 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 3: most recently spend time with the Los Angeles Dodgers. In 196 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 3: each case, the Dodgers made his effort to go out 197 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 3: and acquire them. One is Danny Duffy, who they traded 198 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: for him. I think the twenty one deadline, just like 199 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 3: the moment before they got Turner insurres her and it 200 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: got completely swept on the rug because then he also 201 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: got hurt immediately. He's someone who was working out of 202 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: the bullpen, but he had for three four pitches that 203 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: were all above average. Also, Jimmy Nelson Dodgers did have 204 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: the opportunity to extend this year for not that much 205 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: money and decide not to do that. So maybe not 206 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: a lot in there at all, but still not bad. 207 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: There's a lot of veteran arms available in that bullpen 208 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: that could fill in these last week. Yeah, like Corey 209 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: canable that curve ball. 210 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: Still dominic Leone your boy from San fran. 211 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: Oh dominic Leoni another Clemson boy. I can't have too 212 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: many Clempson guys hanging around here. 213 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: But it's just there's a lot of creativity left on 214 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: this reliever market, and I'm sure the way the Mets 215 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: have gone about this offseason so far, they will work 216 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: to be creative with how they fill out the rest 217 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: of the bullpen, be it major league spring training invitations, 218 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: upper upper depth of the minor leagues. 219 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: There you got, he got that one out, finally, finally, right, 220 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: you guys. We have a mail bag a little bit 221 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: later for you guys too. So if we didn't address 222 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 2: any players, are questions that you're thinking, like, why didn't 223 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: they say that it's coming. Don't worry, We're gonna do 224 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: mail bag in a second. But to switch, you know, 225 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: tones here a little bit. International free agents, international prospects, 226 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: the signees. 227 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: They've been happening this week. 228 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if the deadline's officially over 229 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: now or if you can still sign guys for a 230 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: couple of days, But the Mets had a pretty decent haul. 231 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: International prospect is kind of like a lottery in a way. 232 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: It's when you hit, it feels like you hit big, 233 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: and when you miss, you miss big. That kind of 234 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: is the way that it seems to be going, especially 235 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: the last few years. A couple big names that the 236 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 2: Mets pulled out first, one being Daverson Gutierrez, who is 237 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: ranked number twenty on Baseball America. He's a catching prospect, 238 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 2: six foot two, two hundred and five pounds. 239 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: He was born in two thousand and five. 240 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: Two hundred five pounds right now, two hundred and five pounds, 241 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: right now, sixty two. 242 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: The dude can swing the bat. 243 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: I mean, all the comparisons right now, from what I've 244 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: been reading and seeing, have been Francisco Alvas. I mean 245 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: he's from Venezuela. He's been working with Francisco Alvares. If 246 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 2: that is the comparison. I like what I'm hearing. I 247 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: really like that. And I also believe he was the 248 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: guy that the Mets gave the most money to, or 249 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: at least in that top group of guys that got 250 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: the most money. But they're saying aggressive hitter controls his 251 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: own well, which is really nice to see. Obviously, he 252 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: has to learn to hit for a little bit more 253 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: power when you're sixteen seventeen years old. It's something that 254 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: comes with time, and I mean, lifting some weights I'm 255 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: sure will help him as well. But the fact that 256 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: he's been putting up exit velos over one hundred plus 257 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: miles an hour already is something that's really good. 258 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: Yeah that age plick up exit velos one hundred miles. 259 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: Now I know he's in the top twenty Baseball America 260 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: the list two of these international prospect Pool number twenty, 261 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: which good place to start? 262 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, one hundred percent. The next guy, Christopher Lorez, 263 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 2: I hope I'm pronouncing his name correctly. Might not be 264 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: six one hundred and ninety pounds. 265 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: This was born. 266 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: January tenth, two thousand and six. I was just turning 267 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: ten years old when this guy was born. Uh. 268 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: The fun thing about Christopher Lorez. This person was not 269 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: alive when Pedro Martinez was a Red Sox. 270 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 5: How do you guys like geeing old? By the way, 271 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 5: you guys always get on me, well what are you? 272 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: What are you? Forty three? 273 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 3: Now it's trying to happen. Luckily we have you around 274 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: to keep us making me feel a little bit younger. 275 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 5: I guys make me feel young. How about that? 276 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: We know that's why you like to this podcast. Ok, 277 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: I'm having a little bit of a Actually I shouldn't 278 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: say this. I'm not having an existential crisis, but I'm 279 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: having a I'm no longer in my mid twenties. 280 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: Twenty seven is now late twenties. 281 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 5: Parents insurance. 282 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: I've been off the insurance for a couple of years now. 283 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, twenty seven. To celebrate a recent birthday, Yeah, 284 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: this weekend, Vito Vito. 285 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: Gave me a happy birthday. John didn't. 286 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: John didn't even say anything. Was your birthday, Jay wear fifteenth? 287 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 5: John days ago? 288 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: Two days ago? 289 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: John didn't even say anything. I had no idea classic 290 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: you know Twitter, Twitter does birthdays. Mark tweeted, Yeah, I 291 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: said thanks to everybody saying happy birthday. 292 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 5: Oh you know what it was? That that knew for you. Nonsense, Yeah, 293 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 5: that is I don't see the most well. I am 294 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 5: very sorry. 295 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 4: I feel like a terrible person in real time right 296 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 4: now as we record this, man, John. 297 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: I'll thank you. 298 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 5: Thank you. 299 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: Seventy two thousand people saw that tweet. 300 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 5: You weren't one of an impressions. 301 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sad, like it's Elon's fault. Blame me, blame 302 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: the billionaire. 303 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: Yes, you love this. Threw something up this week. It's 304 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 3: been station between us recently. But because we all do 305 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: a lot of social media stuff, they changed all the 306 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: format Twitter images. 307 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like that. Memes are dead. Yeah, no, memes. 308 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: Memes have to be reformatted. He came to bring the 309 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: memes and he killed memes. Yeah, they're gonna fix it. 310 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna fix it. 311 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: They fix the views thing and moved over to the 312 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: right side of tweets now, So that's that's at least 313 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: something forward. Going back to this prospect, I Christopher Loretz, 314 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 2: who was poor and happy birthday in the market. Yeah, 315 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: happy birthday to may thank you. What's really exciting about 316 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: him is that people think that he could be a 317 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: five tool player. They think right now defensively, he is 318 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: the most polished shortstop in the entire class, has real 319 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: five tool potential. I saw his swing. I was watching 320 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: him hit from videos from Jacob Bresnick. Again, you should 321 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 2: follow him on Twitter if you don't fear Mets fan. 322 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: Great for prospects stuff, Jacob Bresnick. This guy's a really clean, 323 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 2: compact swing. You can't really project the power just yet 324 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: because he is so young and he's still learning probably 325 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 2: how to use his body in his size. But the 326 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: fact that his hands looked as good they did in 327 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: the field and the clips that I saw something something 328 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: build on. When you hear people say five tool prospect, 329 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: you always get a little excited. 330 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: Hitsool's very good for players this age. I read some 331 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: kind of article not that long ago. I think it 332 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: was Baseball America just about being able to track mostly 333 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: international free agent signings or players that come out of 334 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: high school because those guys get grouped a lot together 335 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 3: as they come through systems, And it was it was 336 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: it was a list that was basically, if a player 337 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 3: has above a thirty percent strike out rate in the 338 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 3: DSL or the FCL, like, that's kind of it your 339 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: chance of reaching the midjor league's incredibly slimmy. Out of 340 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: course the same content. Contact at that age is very important. 341 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the talent's only going to get better, so to 342 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: be able to be a you know, well rounded player 343 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: or something that's good. He's a guy that was twenty 344 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: five on Baseball America, a lot lower on MLB pipeline, 345 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: so interesting depends who you value. 346 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: Lettle More. I like that. 347 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, our boy Matt Eddie, come on, he would never 348 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: steer us wrong. Anthony Baptiste would be the third big 349 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: name guy they got. He's right number thirty one on 350 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: Baseball America. He's just simply one of the best athletes, 351 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: maybe the best athlete in the entire class. Apparently watching 352 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: him play center field is fascinating. That's what a lot 353 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: of scouts have been saying. He's left yet the play 354 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: just swing reminds me of jerks and profile a lot 355 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: very hunched over, a little slappy, he's gonna put the 356 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: ball in play kind of thing, but basically the athleticism 357 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: and you worry about baseball after that, which that's cool. 358 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: I like that. 359 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 2: I like the idea of a guy who I mean, 360 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: we've for a long time been in before Brandon Nimo 361 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: were like, we need a centerfielder. 362 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: We need a centerfielder, We need a center fielder. 363 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: Take a risk on the athletic guy, like the Tim 364 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: Bay Rays always do great in nine years. 365 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: In nine years in two thousand and five. It's crazy 366 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: to talk about these guys. 367 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: But in your field twenty seven, imagine with thirty six 368 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: and Anty Batist is making his debut. 369 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 1: No, I don't want to stop. I don't want to 370 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: think about that. You will almost be John Badge. 371 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll almost be like forty four high. Like John's 372 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: a couple more quick names. I'm just gonna throw at you, 373 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: not a whole lot behind them. Marcos Castillo just cool 374 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: because he's a son of former Mets catcher Alberto Castillo. 375 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: Wilmer Lugo's left handed pitcher Jacob Bresnik had a right 376 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: up on him. Basically, he is the most notable international 377 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: pitching prospect. He's left handed, six feet tall, born in 378 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: two thousand and six. He's touching mid nineties as a 379 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: sixteen year old and has a pretty decent curveball. Sounds 380 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: good to me. You're the pitching guy. Yeah, I feel 381 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: like if you have the scout pitchers this young. 382 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: I know a lot of the major league scouts do 383 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: this too when they find high school kids. 384 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: I feel like the only. 385 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: Thing you really want is like frame extension and like 386 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: like the shoulder flexibility because past this, Like, when you 387 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: guy like this, this young comes into your system, you're 388 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: gonna teach. 389 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: Him every single thing. Now it's a project. 390 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you're gonna probably reteach him mechanics, reteach him 391 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 3: and delivery, reteach him different grips and like styles of pitches. 392 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: You might even changed his armslots delivery, but like you 393 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: just want to make sure that they have like the 394 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: stretch back on. 395 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: Perc Yeah, no, and he definitely rears back and fires. 396 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: I've watched them clips for him too. Some zip on 397 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: that ball. Last guy, Julio Zayas, he's listed as the 398 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: under the radar met from Jacob Resnik. Not a lot 399 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: of buzz. He's another catching prospect. Essentially just hits the 400 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: ball extremely hard. He's a big boy, crushes baseballs. You 401 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: like to see hard eggs if he lows. That's what 402 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: we got on the international prospects. Again, not too much 403 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: because again they're fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old January baseball content. Yeah, 404 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: this is you guys have been around this podcast for 405 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: a while. You know that we get into the into 406 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: the mud in the middle of January. Anybody knew there's 407 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: a lot of chaos here. There's a lot of chaos here. 408 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: There's a lot of chaos. So that's it for the 409 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: international prospects. I think we want to do a mail 410 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: bag finally because. 411 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: We have He's anail back for two months. Yeah, and 412 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: a lot of questions about things answer. So let's go 413 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: ahead and get into this mail back. James, I'm gonna 414 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: let you pick the first question for this one. All right, Oh, 415 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: first question? Do you want to go baseball? You want 416 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: to go fun? 417 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: Let's now, let's let's go. I'm gonna let you pick. 418 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you pick. This is all you guy. Okay, 419 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: first question, I think this is something we touched on before. 420 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: Is something I think that's probably the broadest question we 421 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: got it from multiple people. Is where we expect the 422 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: Mets bench to go as this offseason winds up and 423 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: get closer to the regular season. Yeah, because right now, 424 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: if you guys look on Fangrass, roster resource is a 425 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: great tool. I'm sure a lot of people use it. 426 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: If not, check it out support fangrass incredible sight. The 427 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: Mets listed bench right now would probably give a lot 428 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: of fans. It probably make a lot of people a 429 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: litt uncomfortable and like not really feel like good about 430 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: the way the roster lines up. And it starts with 431 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: your backup catcher Thomas ni though who fan favorite? Where 432 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: a massive Tomas Neo podcast. I'd go as far as 433 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: say we are the biggest Tomas Neo podcast like this 434 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 3: on the internet. Yeah, that's a fact, and we've interviewed 435 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 3: him like he's the man other and then then past 436 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 3: there you have your backup infielder. Also a favorite of ours, 437 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: Luis Qi or Meg of course our king. The first 438 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: podcast we ever did for this show, it was me 439 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: shouting out how port Luis ki Orma would be in 440 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 3: March two thousand and one, King Louis Yes, And then 441 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: past that that was when. 442 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: He gets a little dice. People might get uncomfortable. 443 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: The first guy is Darren Ruff, who didn't really ingratiate 444 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: himself to Mets fans last year, but as a guy 445 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: who I think probably still has more skill and potential 446 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: than some people would want to believe and think how 447 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: batt he played last year. 448 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: It's really important. 449 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: To note that he's he's there to crush left handed pitching, 450 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: and after he pitched in Atlanta, he just wasn't the same. 451 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden he got hurt with 452 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: like the back thing that probably had been lingering for 453 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: a little bit. 454 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: Yep. 455 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: I think he had two extra bays hits in his 456 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: first two games Atlanta series. 457 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: Really good the rest of the way. Yeah, yeah, that 458 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: was that was a rough one. 459 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, got him based in the playoff game that he 460 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: started in the playoff game he did. 461 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: That was that was. 462 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 463 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: We were sitting with Vetough for that way. That was 464 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: a massive cheat. That was when we were who's the picture, 465 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: Who's who's the pitcher? 466 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: Morejone, Adrian morrehon Man Moore, John God, we got his head. 467 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: That was song for him a little a little while. 468 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: That was great. 469 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: And then last member of the bench right now is 470 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: clearly who I don't think really anybody expects to be 471 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: a major league player this year. Yeah, based on the 472 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: way he's the way he had a very good twenty 473 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: twenty one in terms of minor league production and came 474 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 3: up in the major leagues and didn't look incredibly overmatched. 475 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: He wasn't like good, but it wasn't like awful. 476 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 3: But then last year Treblay really took a step back 477 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 3: to the point where we're pretty certain we're gonna need 478 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 3: to add it outfielder, Yeah. 479 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: For sure. 480 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: And of course you still have Vientos and Batty and 481 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: Alvarez's guys that could be floating around too. 482 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: That's where I was gonna go with this whole conversation, 483 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: because right now those players aren't exactly listed as members 484 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 3: of the roster. But I do think there is gonna 485 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: be a portion of this season where, first of all, 486 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 3: the Mets might opt for carrying a five man bench, 487 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: because I do think that they have a lot of 488 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 3: pictures in this bullpen that are able to give length 489 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: based on the way the roster are gonna shake out 490 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 3: right now, unless they go through six man rotation, which 491 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 3: is possible, we don't know. There's legitimate chance that we 492 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: have David Peterson, Eliezer Hernandez, and Tyler Morgill all in the. 493 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: Opening day bullpen. 494 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 3: Those are three pictures with starter's pedigret, who can give 495 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: tons of length any given moment. That will give the 496 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: Mets an opportunity at some point, depending on how they 497 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: want to shuffle their options, to carry a fifth bench player. 498 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 3: And I think that would be beneficial just because we 499 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 3: have a player and Daniel Vogebac who can't really play 500 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 3: the field, and we have a player Francisco Alt who 501 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 3: doesn't really have defensive home right now. But the development 502 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: as a hitter is really important. And two, I do 503 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: think his upside as a power bat is something that 504 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: not many other players on this active roster can give. 505 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: So I do think that while the bench looks a 506 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: little funky right now, you're going to see opportunities for 507 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: the mess Carrie five man bench, get the fifth player 508 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: in there on there, whether that be Alvarez or Bathy 509 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: over period of time. 510 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: There's also a world. 511 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: Where Red Baby could be someone who gets outfield reps 512 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: as the season goes on. Him and Mark Viento's both 513 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 3: got time there and the upper miners last year double A, 514 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: triple A, and we heard mixed reviews on each, but 515 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: it's it's not like we're gonna have We're gonna want 516 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 3: to get them developed like time in the line up 517 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: at some point, and neither of them are stout enough 518 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 3: defensively at their position, their position of choice being third base. 519 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 3: Baby is better than Viento's. People have said he's at 520 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 3: least fine there. We saw last year went up and 521 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: down a little bit, but that I think is gonna 522 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: be more of a direction this team goes in terms 523 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: of bench depth than signing a. 524 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: Lot more guys. 525 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 526 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: No, I mean I don't think it's like I understand 527 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 2: why people be concerned, like you said, but I think 528 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 2: it's like weirdly deep. It's it's it's like weirdly deep 529 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: because like we have these three young guys that could 530 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 2: come up and just just really make an impact. 531 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 532 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: It's also it's also the other side that it's like 533 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: a double edged short to where we thought it was 534 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 3: weirdly deep last year that it was just a bunch 535 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: of guys who we wound up being disappointed that needs 536 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 3: to upgrade once the season got going for sure. 537 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 538 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: Another another reason that this bench is deep is you 539 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 4: have a lot of guys that could play a lot 540 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: of positions. You know, Jeff McNeil can play both and 541 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 4: the outfield, that opens up options. Leasora can play pretty 542 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 4: much any and field spot. Other than first base, and 543 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 4: I bet you if you asked him to do it, 544 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 4: he could figure it out. We saw Markanna play third 545 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 4: base when last year him play left. We've seen him 546 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 4: play center, and I believe he could play a face 547 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 4: as well. Yeah, So having that flexibility opens up the bench, 548 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 4: opens up your options, and that's I mean, all teams 549 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 4: strive for that, and the Mets are really in a 550 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 4: good spot. 551 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 5: So eth think Neil is so so key. 552 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 3: When it comes to that, especially just the fact that 553 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 3: we do. Giormy is the lynchpin there because he is 554 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 3: the only other guy in this roster who can't play shortstop. Yeah, 555 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: and not I don't I don't think that why the 556 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: rest of war couldn't play shortstop or even like I 557 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: don't even think Jeff McNeil couldn't play shortstop. But in 558 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 3: terms of a guy who's defensively plus there, those are 559 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: the only two. And we have John Sayer player Danny 560 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 3: Mendick who is going to be sitting in triple A, 561 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: who also can stuff for the shortstop for a little while. 562 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 3: Like he's that he's that last rung of defense before 563 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: we get into like disaster area shortstop, which I mean and. 564 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 5: If anyone's wondering so much. It's because he went to you. 565 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 4: Mass Roll, which is a great school. I'm all about 566 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 4: the U Mass school system. Danny Mendick. 567 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: Also, what's what's the team the U Mass little one? 568 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: I forget, but I can. 569 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 5: Tell you Jack also, yeah, he went to Massle. I'm 570 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 5: gonna look it. 571 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: Up, look at I also forgot. 572 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 3: We also pulled in Jose perrazzas non roster and so 573 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 3: he's another like little little line of. 574 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: Depth in between short shortstop chaos. 575 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 2: And he had some fun moments the River the River 576 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: Hawks get the River River. That's that's yeah, that's my 577 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: mass Yeah. 578 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 5: Okay. 579 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 3: And also since we recorded last, I believe since we 580 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 3: record last, we signed timble Castro also non roster invitation. 581 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: He can play corner outfield. He could probably find a 582 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 3: way to play center. He's just that fast. 583 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 5: Oh, he definitely plays center. 584 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna be this is you know, pinch runner, 585 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: get in, get some meth lessism out there. And these 586 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 3: are players who Yeah, it's gonna be Terrance score. But 587 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: he could I think it probably do a little bit more. 588 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: He could definitely hit a little bit more. You're not 589 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 3: gonna take it hit a lot, but he can hit 590 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: a little bit more so higher ceiling. Yeah, there is 591 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 3: probably again still room for a legitimate fourth outfield of 592 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 3: the guys we mentioned before, along with possibly Tyler Naquin 593 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 3: who talked about could possibly be someone who comes back 594 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 3: just that. But that kind of class of players is 595 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 3: going to be the one that finishes off this roster, 596 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, yeah, maybe if like Lorenzo Caine wants 597 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: to just send the bench and play corner outfield, But 598 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: that's the kind of guy's going to be. 599 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 2: Robbi Grossman, David Paralta. You gotta find someone who's hunting 600 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: a ring of David. Yeah, you gotta find someone who's 601 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 2: hunting a ring David Parlto's almost fuck me. 602 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 5: Too good for this because yeah, he's an everyday players. 603 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean, and Duval probably is as well. Profar might 604 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: be as well. 605 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 5: Profar yeah, Profar race. 606 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 607 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 3: So's it's hard to convince a guy like that to 608 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: be like, do you want to play? 609 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 1: You want to play ninety games? Yeah? I don't know. 610 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: Ring Hunterson's people are looking for a world series ring 611 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 2: that's trying to get their last little piece on their 612 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: their mantle place there. Yeah, to switch it up a 613 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: little bit from being so dense about baseball. How about 614 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 2: some things about city Field here, because we just we 615 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 2: just went on. We just we gave you a lot, 616 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: a lot of information about so many different topics. 617 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: Stuff. We're trying. We're trying. We love That's what we 618 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: love doing. That's what we love doing. 619 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: A couple of different people chimed in with stuff about 620 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: city Field, about favorite areas in city Field, along with 621 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: you know, uh, if the Coens had everybody out to 622 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: talk about what the project. 623 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: Is around here and what could be going on? 624 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 2: So uh, I love uncle Steve or I love my 625 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: uncle Steve said, what would you guys like Greg the area? 626 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: Ye that it's Greg. 627 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: What would you like the area around city to look like? 628 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: What sorts of things should that area include? Restaurants, bars, 629 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 2: et cetera. I think you hit the nail on the head. Restaurants, bars, hotels, restaurants, 630 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: et cetera. Like literally, anything that gives me somewhere to 631 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: hang out before the game. I could get here three 632 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: four hours early and hang out before the game is 633 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: said two like I'm in And there's so. 634 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: Many like new Wisch stadiums that have opened up and 635 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 3: have these great areas outside. 636 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: As much as I hate to say it, Atlanta does 637 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: it so well. 638 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: The battery is a I've. 639 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: Never been down there, but just being at going to 640 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 3: college in Ohio, being going to Cincinnati and Cleveland a 641 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: few times for games, there's just a it's like each 642 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: one of those has like a strip of bars that 643 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: like you walk bar bar bar bar stadium, Like they 644 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: don't even give. 645 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: You a second to think. And those are like sad 646 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: cities Like those aren't even like fine. 647 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: They're sad in terms of if you know the East Coast, 648 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: like in terms of middle of America or metropolis. 649 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: Since I probably. 650 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 3: Like if you're from the you know most of those states, 651 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 3: that's just a dream. I guess you wind up. You 652 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: wind up in Cincinnati or Cleveland. You're in the mountaintop. 653 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: You climbed, you did it, You've made it. 654 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: You're there. 655 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: We're talking to one of our friends the other day, 656 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 3: your birthday. Yeah, this friend just moves Cincinnati voluntarily live 657 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 3: from here. 658 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 659 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 3: One of my best friends shall I read is sometimes 660 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 3: listening to this podcast. He lives at Cincinnati right now. 661 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: He just does as a job in an office. Drives 662 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 3: there with no traffic do you imagine. No, it's that 663 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: traffic coming from a story today. 664 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: Tons of traffic from Brooklyn. 665 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: But I just think just having like a couple of bars, 666 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 3: people can hang out outside, nice patios, a couple of 667 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 3: tele visions, some appetizer's placed to have nachos. 668 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 5: I've got a place to maybe throw a parlay down before. 669 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: Ye well, that's what we were saying too. Are we're 670 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: allowed to say that that was like. 671 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 5: A particular sports Champions League soccer? 672 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, have to drop a layer two, see 673 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: what's going on in person, in person, get it, get 674 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: a ticket. 675 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: That would be nice. 676 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 3: Weekend games, you know, once September comes around, you watch 677 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 3: some football on Saturday. 678 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: Make it make it a make it an event coming 679 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: to city Field. 680 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to mention the words college football wants 681 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: every episode now just because of how much people dislike it. 682 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: Just I'm not talk about just. 683 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: Say college college football. And then here's another one that's 684 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 2: about city Field. Most underrated part about city Field that 685 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 2: comes from Pat stats and he said his is the 686 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: Bullpen picnic area to which I've never really got in 687 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: time there. 688 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 3: That's that area like downstairs, yea walking the gate that 689 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: is actually kind of cool. 690 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: Sneaky spot. You know, it's a great spot. 691 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 3: Also, sneaky spot that we hung out of a lot 692 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: last year, all the way off in the top floor, 693 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 3: that picnic area around home plate. Yeah, because there's a 694 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: couple of cool bars there. This sneaky amazing food options 695 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 3: up there. 696 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can get the burrito bowl. 697 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: Yes, nobody knows about it. I don't know if we 698 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: want to. 699 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 5: Talk, you. 700 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 3: Don't want to get three the ball and it's not 701 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 3: up there. But they have the sake sandwiches up there. 702 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: They have a really really good bar with good beers 703 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: and celtzer selection they have. 704 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: They have the gym bean bar as well. They do. 705 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 3: It's just there's a really good they have the Carvel 706 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: back there and they have some pizza back there. Like 707 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: it's a great spot to eat, drink, hangout and it's 708 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 3: just not really that used. And to have the Arnseni Bros. 709 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 3: Up there too, right next door. It's a good spot. 710 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, mister soft exclusive up there. Can you get that? Yeah? 711 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: Okay, the sea word, No, that must been the old days. 712 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 1: That was the old day. 713 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 5: Wait, which never mind. 714 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: Let me see my my most underrated spot. 715 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: I really I like where my parents have their like 716 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: twenty game pack, which is like it's not underrated because 717 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 2: it's like it's a popular spots. It's the smaller level, 718 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: So maybe I won't say that one. I do like 719 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: the left field spot where we hang out. Sometimes it's 720 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: not a great place, like it's not my number one 721 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: choice to sit, and we've been incredibly unlucky sitting there, 722 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 2: so it's dead to me. 723 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 3: But it's nice and chill game in terms of game outcomes. 724 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: And also the last time we sat up there, Mark 725 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 3: got Mark got pooped up. 726 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: A pigeon pooped it was but until they lost, until 727 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 2: they lost Game three three, actually unlucky Ques, but it's 728 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: like nice and it's nice and chill up there. There 729 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: was a whole click of pigeons that were just pooping 730 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: on everybody. 731 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, there were like four of them. 732 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 5: Maybe it's like good luck, bad luck, good luck bad luck. 733 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: You need an odd number, odd number number, guy, No, 734 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 3: usually there's if there's one event that happens that's a 735 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 3: good luck. 736 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, because like the remote needs 737 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 4: to be on an even number with the volume even everything. 738 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna do a side episode next couple of months. 739 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: About all of happy. Yeah, I'm sure there's many more 740 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: than the one we just heard. 741 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 2: And then we do have a special in person mail 742 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: bag from producer John as Well. He's he's got a 743 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: question that he wants to ask us real quick. 744 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 5: I certainly do as as everyone knows. 745 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 4: Obviously, the New York Football Giants or moving on to 746 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 4: the second round. I myself, I am a New York 747 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 4: Jets fan. James is a Jets fan, and Mark is 748 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: a Washington Commanders fan. O comis and I've been thinking 749 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 4: about this like this past Sunday. I was watching that 750 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 4: game with a Giants fan who's a little noxious, but 751 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 4: I let it slide. I used to hate the Giants, 752 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: you know, back in the Rex Ryan days. I was 753 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 4: telling you guys before we started recording, and I don't 754 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 4: feel that way anymore towards them. I don't know if 755 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 4: I've gotten softer in my old age or what it is. 756 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 4: You know, maybe it was just that Giants plus one 757 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: thirty five was was real sweet on Sunday, But for 758 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 4: whatever reason I kind of feel I kind of find 759 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 4: myself rooting for them now. They play Philadelphia, a city 760 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 4: that we don't want to see when anything no like that. 761 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 5: That's across the board. 762 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 4: I know Vet doesn't agree with that, but trust me, 763 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 4: if you're a New Yorker, you do not want to 764 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 4: see the fans of Philadelphia have fun with anything at all. 765 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 4: And I was wondering where you guys said in't and 766 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 4: fans at home and hopefully we're cool or everyone's cool 767 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 4: that us talking football here New York. It's'll be the 768 00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 4: last five minutes of the podcast. 769 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 3: You guys can now if you don't want to hear 770 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 3: a nuanced discussion about the Jets and the Giants fandom. 771 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 3: But we were actually having this conversation on Sunday, We're 772 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: hanging out from Mark's birthday, and I was kind of saying, like, 773 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: I don't for some reason, it's weird, doesn't make any sense. 774 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 5: It's not true. 775 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 3: But I don't put the Eagles and the Phillies in 776 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 3: the same in the same area for me at all, 777 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: because I hate the Phillies so much and I feel 778 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 3: nothing for the Eagles because it's never been a ravaly 779 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: with my team. Yeah, and I do objectively like a 780 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 3: lot of players on the Eagles, like I think Jalen 781 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 3: Hurts are super cool and I love his story, like 782 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 3: the way he's developed over the last like seven years 783 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 3: between college, getting bench Forratua, coming back, transferring second round pick, 784 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 3: and rising Like that's just really cool, So you gotta 785 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: get that much better. And like a lot of that 786 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 3: rosters hauled over from the last Super Bowl to be 787 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: Tom Brady. So I have a lot of respect for 788 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 3: them there, But I don't, I don't. 789 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: Know, I don't. 790 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 3: I think I'm rooting for the Giants more than the 791 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: fact that they're a local team, just based on the 792 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: fact that how insane of the story it is where 793 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: they're going right now, the Giants are objectively have one 794 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: of the five worst rosters in the hire ENF. 795 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: And there's no there's no way about that. 796 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: The Giants basically have I think they basically have two 797 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: good players the entire team, Like. 798 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: Like I's not even I don't even think that's a 799 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: hot take to me. 800 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 3: It's like Andrew Thomas is incredible, Dexter Lawrence is really good, 801 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 3: Like Sequon's fine, he's a running back, Daniel Jones has 802 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 3: been incredible. But like, besides that, you have to really 803 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: squint to find anybody Thibodeau, of course, but you have 804 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: to like really squint to find any kind of useful 805 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 3: talent this team, Like, this team was coached by anybody else, 806 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: and last year it was basically ninety percent of the 807 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: same roster. Yeah, they will, like objectively when of the 808 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 3: worst teams the entire league. So I think it's cool 809 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: from the underdog perspective more so than the local perspective. 810 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 811 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: My take on is because as a Commander's fan, they're 812 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: both in my division, so this is like nightmare, this 813 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: is hell. But I mean, I think I would rather 814 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: see the Giants than the Eagles because I really do 815 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: loathe the city of Philadelphia. 816 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: It's just absolutely the worst. 817 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: I hate it so much, and I think now I'm 818 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: starting to realize why. It's just every team I've ever 819 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: rooted for, the Eagles are direct. It's something Philadelphia is 820 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: direct rivalry competitor. So I really hate that city. 821 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: Can't. I don't want to see them win. 822 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: Although we did the Commanders smack them in Monday Night Football, 823 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: so you know that. 824 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: Was Commander is the only team of the NFC Beast 825 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: was still alive. 826 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 2: I know it's unfortunate, it's really tough, honestly, but I 827 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: respect the Giants because, like you said, the team's not 828 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 2: good and they're playing well, and Brian Dable is a football. 829 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 5: Guys, a badass. 830 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's really cool. I love he's like. 831 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: He's objectively also like the fourth best coach in the 832 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: NFL already. 833 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: I'd love to find out that. If you think Belichick's dead, yeah. 834 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 4: I know, I know he's I'd love for him to 835 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 4: be at every single playoff game that he showed up 836 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 4: at and when he was Ranger best he. 837 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: Was because if he's a Mets fan, he has an 838 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: open invitation to come talk to the boys and talks 839 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: to baseball. 840 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: I'd love to pick his brain. He's a football guy. No, 841 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying, yell at you. Sure, yeah, I'd like to 842 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: be coached up by Brian Dable. 843 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: But you can respect what the Giants are doing. You 844 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 2: can respect that Daniel Jones looks competent, especially when he 845 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: had been so so horrible, incredible. Daniel Jones is also 846 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 2: like I'd like this story of him developing like the 847 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: way he has recently. 848 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: He had to deal with two different coaches in the 849 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 3: first three years, different schemes, different four different Danie Jones 850 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 3: was like a player who played a lot of football 851 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: in college. When you play a lot of football in 852 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 3: college's direct correlation NFL success. We've learned that the hard way. 853 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: With the guys who haven't played that much not being good. 854 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 3: You're seeing a rock perider right now. I started forty games. 855 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: In college, which is literally impossible to do. 856 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: You have to start for four years and not leave early, 857 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 3: go to the NFL and never get injured. 858 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: But that's a minute. It's a cool story. 859 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 3: Was going out with the Giants, and I would be 860 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 3: way more into it if I didn't have like three 861 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 3: annoying like friends and cousins. 862 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 863 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 4: That's the thing is when you know the fan base 864 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 4: and then they get a little cocky. And I don't 865 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 4: think Giants fans are there quite yet because this has 866 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 4: been such a cinderella run. 867 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 5: There, ye win three games. See, I don't want them 868 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 5: to win the Super Bowl. 869 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: No, No, well that's why, I mean, let's be real, 870 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: They're not going to I know, I know. 871 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 3: I'm just saying like that would just beat the Vikings, 872 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 3: who had a negative point of Fani. 873 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think the Eagles double the sacked total 874 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 4: this year. If the Giants win the Super Bowl, I'll 875 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 4: be salty I will not be happy. 876 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to share it, but like they 877 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: can beat the Eagles, they can beat the Eagles all day. 878 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 5: I just want out. 879 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: Well, I hope we're still rolling. 880 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 5: I think we are. Yeah, we look good. We're gonna 881 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 5: keep going dark. 882 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's like the Oscars, they're telling us 883 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: to wrap it up. That's fair or playing the music. 884 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: It's nice to have a New York sports story to 885 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 2: talk about. 886 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 4: Like, let's be real, it's January fifteenth or seventeenth, whatever, 887 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 4: the middle of January. 888 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 5: We're not talking Nick, We're not talking race. 889 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: Your birthday where I didn't even know. I didn't even 890 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: know my birthday birthday. 891 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 4: You know, it's nice for the city to rally around 892 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 4: the team. And I don't know, I just feel like 893 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 4: right now, more than in the past. Maybe it's because 894 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 4: the Jets and Giants were a net for so damn 895 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 4: long that now it's just nice to see January football 896 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 4: in the city for the first time since the Giants 897 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 4: went on their boat riding twenty sixteen, which was a 898 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 4: long point. 899 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: You know. 900 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 4: Maybe that's where I've softened on it, But I don't know, 901 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 4: I just I feel weird I'm usually a hater of 902 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 4: the other team in town. 903 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 5: Now I'm not, like, you know, I'm kind of liking 904 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 5: the Nets a little bit. 905 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna get me started on a whole other conversation. 906 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: That this was the first Giants playoff victory since the 907 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. 908 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, since twenty eleven. 909 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mario Manningham, it's insane, Manningham, that's the one. All right, 910 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: that's enough football talk. 911 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and the lights are out, so I think 912 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: it's a perfect time for us to wrap us wrap 913 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: up this episode The Mets Up Podcast, Episode one fifty nine. 914 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: Remember to follow us on all our social media app 915 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: mets up on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. The YouTube video 916 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: be on the New York Mets YouTube channel. Download subscribe, 917 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,479 Speaker 2: follow our podcast on Google, Spotify, Apple podcast, wherever it is. 918 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: The lights just changed. I don't know what's going on. 919 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: But uh, we'll catch you guys on the next episode The. 920 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: Mets Up Podcast. See ya, Thanks finally see you guys. 921 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: Next tap every birthday mark Get Up, Get Up, Get Up.