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Speaker 1: I'm Debbie Brown and this is the Deeply Well Podcast. Hi,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Deeply Well. I'm Debbie Brown and this is

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Speaker 1: your soft place to land on your journey. A podcast

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Speaker 1: for those that are curious, creative, and ready to expand

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Speaker 1: in higher consciousness and self care. This is where we heal,

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Speaker 1: this is where we become. Welcome to the show. Today's

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Speaker 1: a sacred science, a deep, deep wisdom tradition rooted in

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Speaker 1: the stars that has been such a gorgeous guide and

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Speaker 1: astrologers living on this earth. Today, I have a very

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Speaker 1: special guest, my friend Daryl Gaines, who is an internationally

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Speaker 1: so I can't wait to bring all of this to life.

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Speaker 1: And a little background on Darryl. For over twenty years,

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Speaker 1: Daryl has been sharing astrological perspectives and wisdom to help

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Speaker 1: Darryl's Deep Insights offer awareness and clarity to help you

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Speaker 1: and your life's purpose and so much more. His readings

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Speaker 1: examine what you were born with, where you've been, where

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Speaker 1: Darryl's expertise is internationally celebrated and has been featured in

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Speaker 1: New York Magazine, Los Angeles Times, and Entertainment Weekly, as

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Speaker 1: well as on the BBC, MSNBC, The Sally Kirkland Show,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: I think it's so good to be here. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: dev Thank you for having me. What an introduction. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: My friend I had you know, I had the pleasure

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Speaker 2: volumes for that sacred spiritual science that is astrology. When

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Speaker 1: fascinating to me, Daryl Gaines in so many ways. One

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Speaker 1: debate it and put him up next to like other

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Speaker 1: you know, icons of the time, but who had different

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Speaker 1: messages and outside of just the hip hop sense, like

436
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Speaker 1: lyrically and all of that, Pac was such an awakener

437
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Speaker 1: and I feel like he speaks to a certain kind

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Speaker 1: of person that had these like this revolutionary inner life.

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Speaker 1: You know this that maybe their circumstance did not allow

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Speaker 1: for them to be you know, the young kid at

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Speaker 1: Juilliard or you know, the person did not allow for

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Speaker 1: the community and the environment that could really nurture certain

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Speaker 1: aspects of those gifts. But you felt them churning, and

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00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: there was a desire to express. There was a desire

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Speaker 1: to learn a higher thought. And I think that that

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Speaker 1: is very linked with a lot of the people.

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Speaker 4: That are tested in the way that I'm obsessed with

448
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: fuck because it's a part of who you are. Yeah,

449
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 4: it's so deeply a part of your innate essence. Deeply

450
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: that speaking to the disenfranchised, it gets back to what

451
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Speaker 4: I said previously, making others feel like a star.

452
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Speaker 2: You're your the ruler of your chart is the sun

453
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: because it begins as a leo rising. But it's not

454
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: look at me, look at look at me, because I

455
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: want you to shine. I want you to take this light.

456
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: And Tupac had the same thing, and especially in a

457
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Speaker 2: very and it has nothing to do with gender, but

458
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Speaker 2: that alfho way. That's why it was so polarizing, because

459
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: that energy is the truth, and the truth, as we know,

460
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: can be very inconvenient, as liberating, as liberating as it

461
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: is it can be. That's the fact that we're debating

462
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: the fact that we're debating at this very moment that

463
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: woke is a bad thing. Yeah, yeah, but it's okay

464
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: because you know it's okay. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

465
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: I say it with arrogance. We're fair and square here

466
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: now this age of awareness and more fairness over the

467
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: next three years, our eyes should be burning deadly. Oh,

468
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: our eyes should be because we're at that this critical juncture,

469
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: the reason junct, this polarization, you know, whether it's the

470
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Speaker 2: vaccine or whatever, gender identification, all of it, it began

471
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: a few years ago when you look at that energy.

472
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: We faced off when it first started to appear. What

473
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: was going on, rights, human rights, women's rights, Yeah, the

474
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: decolonization of Africa, gay rights, human rights, and now that

475
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 2: was the overture and now there's no turning back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: And of course the dinosaurs, the dinosaurs are off the

478
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Speaker 2: Jurassic Park. Yeah, it's it's not even it's not political,

479
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Speaker 2: it just is.

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Speaker 1: When you look at the when you look at the

481
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Speaker 1: placement in the sky, what do you see? You know,

482
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Speaker 1: we are from We rooted in this this age of

483
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Speaker 1: churning too, you know, like this is a time of

484
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Speaker 1: real churning. Absolutely, when do we come into the butter.

485
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Speaker 2: Well, I shy away from putting on my predictive hat,

486
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Speaker 2: but I'm not going to play passive aggressive today.

487
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The next the next two and a half years are

489
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: so exciting. Wow, are so incredibly exciting. Perhaps troubling, Oh,

490
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: because you know, there's a need for sacrifice in this life.

491
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: And it's not a cliche. We have to have dark

492
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: to have life. Yeah, you know, you look.

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Speaker 5: Back at every cycle, look back at the sixties, look

494
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 5: at any time there was a need to move forward

495
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 5: through death because there is no death, there's only rebirth.

496
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: And that's where we're going now because the awareness, we

497
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 2: want to fight it. We want to fight it simply,

498
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: as I said, by thinking that woke is a bad word.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well yeah, the misappropriation of other people.

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Speaker 2: But the energy, especially since that last configuration of these

501
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: two powerful planets structure and order and transformation. The last

502
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: time we had it was September eleventh in the cycle.

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00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: The next time the COVID crisis, and now as we

504
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: move to a place that hasn't been for two hundred

505
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: and fifty years, so many ways, metaphorically we put mask on.

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00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: I mean literally we put mask on. Metaphorically we're taking

507
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Speaker 2: them off. We've never seen people so clearly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, my goodness.

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00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: Rather in our personal lives, rather in our personal lives

510
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: are in the outside world. Absolutely, we're seeing people so clearly.

511
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: And you as a healer, as an awakener, you're seeing

512
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 2: the truth than ever. As for me with my clients,

513
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: I feel I've never been so insightful or understanding. And

514
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: it's not false optimism, because I you know, I'm a realist.

515
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: But when you look at the chart, eighty percent of

516
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: it is about structure and order, It is about maturity, progression. Yeah,

517
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: but then you know, one in one equals too. But

518
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: when you've done all you can, then there is help me, universe,

519
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: help make out the miracle two and two become nine

520
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: because we let go.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about someone else too. Yes, there,

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Speaker 1: this person is representative of so much. She is a

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Speaker 1: powerful woman. She's a beautiful woman, and she's a creative woman,

524
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Speaker 1: and she is the first of her kind. She's truly

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Speaker 1: one on one, one of one. Can you tell me

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Speaker 1: about what is written in the stars for Michelle Obama.

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Speaker 2: To be the power behind the throne? It gets back

528
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Speaker 2: to something that resonates deeply, something I feel true power

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Speaker 2: is quiet and she was a part of, you know,

530
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Speaker 2: very ancestral of moving ahead. And that's that's why perhaps

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Speaker 2: she has no interest in being a president because her

532
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: power is served better and it's and it's not a

533
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: matter of that, it's that it's better than that, but

534
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Speaker 2: it's better than that.

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Speaker 1: Because inspiration, mmm, true, like one of the most inspiring

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Speaker 1: figures of.

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Speaker 2: Ours all that. Yeah, she has a lot of what

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00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 2: I see in your chart. Oh lord, it's a lot

539
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: of responsibility.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm going to keep skating right on through. Talk

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Speaker 1: to me about a historical figure that we are now

542
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Speaker 1: having more twenty twenty vision on the way that they

543
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: really changed the world in their way. What what is

544
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali's chart say about him?

545
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Speaker 2: That he was the greatest Leo rising quarious quarius moon.

546
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: He stood there for justice, He kneeled, He wasn't He

547
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: did not kneel for I mean he kneeled, but he

548
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: didn't kneel to someone's restriction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't dominated, He wasn't the time that as

550
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: a black man it was very hard to not be.

551
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 2: And look how polarizing it was at that time. Yeah,

552
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: and coming from below the Mason DIXI mine, that's another right.

553
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: And to have the whole world in his hands. I

554
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 2: remember the kid in nineteen taking the boat over from

555
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: Spain to Morocco, Muhammed Ali, Muhammad Al, I mean, I

556
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: love him all around the world, these little kids. That's

557
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: that aquarius energy I'm talking about. And for anyone that

558
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: possesses it, we all possess it because again, through the cycles,

559
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: we go through an aquarium lunar progression at some point

560
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: in our lives. To be aware of that is something else,

561
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 2: but to be born with it is another thing. As

562
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: he was as you, ah, you see that element in Oprah,

563
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: You see that element in Angela Davis, the civil rights Yes, yes,

564
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 2: And it's not so much just that they son sign ularious,

565
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: because again, Muhammad Ali was a Capricorn, but he took

566
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: he took that integrity, that that solidness, and he just

567
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 2: blasted it in the world, the world rather you, whether

568
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: they accept it didn't matter. He was a part of

569
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: the change. Can you imagine being a little boy or

570
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: a little girl in such a restrictive and to see

571
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: that that's that strike of lightning that.

572
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Speaker 1: God. They were all all three were just such permission givers,

573
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: you know, within that big awakener energy. It's like you

574
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: have permission to take up all the space.

575
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 2: And they all have that running thread of aquarius. You're honest,

576
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: and where are we now? We are? We are now

577
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: fair and square in that.

578
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: Age deeply Well, you have been speaking really powerfully throughout

579
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Speaker 1: the show to this moment in time that we're in.

580
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: This is really a moment of a call, not just

581
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: a call to action. This is a moment that is

582
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Speaker 1: a call to awareness, a deeper awareness within self that

583
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: allows for more observation and awareness and yeeling in the

584
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Speaker 1: greater world. Yes, could you speak to what is the

585
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: energetic potential available to us right now with what you

586
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: know of the way the human condition is destined to

587
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Speaker 1: be over the next couple of years, How can people

588
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: listening best utilize this energy? What should people be doing?

589
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: What should they be thinking about right now based on

590
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: where all the transits currently are?

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00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: Well, it's always good and if not me, of course,

592
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: there's so many a wonderful, wonderful guiders out there. But

593
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: have your chart done? Yeah, understand where that element of freedom, autonomy, awareness?

594
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: Where is that in your chart? And to the novice astrologer,

595
00:45:53,080 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: are the very mature astrologer, what does it feel like?

596
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: And how can you describe that? As opposed to speaking

597
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: that language that some of us astrologers like to do.

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00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: And nothing's wrong with that because that comes from a

599
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: place of trying to prove it. I'm proving it with

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00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: the facts. Mars is square of your Saturn. So but

601
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: what does it mean? I want to feel it to use,

602
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: whether it's illustration, whether it's through the chronology of life,

603
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: whether it's perhaps a difficult time like Oprah Winfrey when

604
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: she had that issue with the cattle industry, what was

605
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: going on? To use those very specific times of noted people,

606
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: noteworthy people. But again to your question, what can perhaps

607
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: the lay person do have your chart done, because once

608
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 2: you know, you know, yeah, yeah, to understand where this

609
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: collective energy is in your chart, don't look at it

610
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: if you're being advised that it's a challenging time. Look

611
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: at it as a moment of breaking free. Freedom is

612
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: rarely free. Comes with the price. It comes with the price,

613
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 2: and we all have a price to pay right now.

614
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: Either we stay back and we move forward. Because this

615
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: is the most exciting time in human history. I feel that,

616
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: and that's not hyprobily. This is the most exciting time

617
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: to have a a young girl born today. Look at

618
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: what's come up trafficking all of this misogyny. A young

619
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Speaker 2: girl born today won't have to deal with that as

620
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: she leaves high school in twenty years from now. I

621
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Speaker 2: say that with arrogance, it's an empowerment of female energy. Whatever.

622
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: And because of course, when you look at the chart,

623
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Speaker 2: you don't see race, you don't see gender, You see

624
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: the individual, You see the energy. That's why the chart

625
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: has no there's no gender to who you are. You're

626
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 2: you and I am you, you or me? As we

627
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: walk together through the cycles.

628
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: With awareness, with awareness.

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Speaker 2: But that beauty, that beauty of the liberation, not just

630
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: all these stories of police brutality, just the economic term,

631
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: all of it. It's about awareness. It's about education. This

632
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: is not political. Ultimately, what gets us ahead is that

633
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 2: energy we're dealing with to be curious, to learn, because

634
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: with education the higher form of the mind. You as

635
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: a professor, a purveyor of the higher form of the mind,

636
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: broadcasting what you do. And I say this to you

637
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: lovingly as a as someone I respect deeply. It's so challenging.

638
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: But you're a star. Own it. Mm hm, because you

639
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: mean you're making people feel like stars. What greater gift?

640
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: M right, thank you, thank you, thank you? So so

641
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: how can people connect with you?

642
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: Oh?

643
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: How can they get the bigger taste of all this?

644
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: Uh? Of course. My site is guiding Planet dot co

645
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: dot com guiding Planet, and I like guiding Planet because

646
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: I feel that that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: It's a guide.

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Speaker 2: It's an awareness, a guide for you to direct your life,

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Speaker 2: write your script, sing your skull. Also my Instagram guiding Planet,

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Speaker 2: where I tell daily the energy of the moment with music.

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Speaker 2: It gets back. It's full circle now my love for

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Speaker 2: the creative. I see the chart as the most beautiful composition,

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Speaker 2: and that's not Oh everybody's beautiful. Everyone's beautiful. Everyone's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful composition.

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Speaker 3: And it is such a healing it's such a it's

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Speaker 3: such a healing ah belief system.

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Speaker 2: Not false optimism. Not am I going to win a lottery?

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Speaker 2: And you know, I know sometimes that's what we want. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but when you're given the tools, when you're given the

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Speaker 2: tools to take control and have real freedom, freedom and relationships,

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Speaker 2: understanding why, to understanding the why, knowing that yes it's

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Speaker 2: a challenge, it's not a problem. There are no problems,

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Speaker 2: there's solutions, right, So guiding planet and my intent, especially

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Speaker 2: over these last seven months, as challenging as they have

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Speaker 2: been on one end, but so rewarding on the other,

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Speaker 2: So rewarding because there has been a coming, a face

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Speaker 2: to face in some unpleasant and convenient truths for my self.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time it has inspired me to

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Speaker 2: bring it full circle. What started you were kind to

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Speaker 2: say twenty years ago, thirty five years.

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Speaker 1: Ago, So I mean you look good.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, but oh yeah, it's it's wonderful and

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Speaker 2: my I'm dedicated to really bringing it back to a

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Speaker 2: sacred spiritual science.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Building that bridge between feeling and thought, limits and limitless

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Speaker 2: except the limits, it's okay, but no, ultimately it's limitless.

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Speaker 1: It's limitless, it's limitless. Work your chart, work your chart chart.

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Speaker 2: I'm very clear. I don't I don't communicate false optimism.

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Speaker 2: You know, seventy five years ago you would go to

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Speaker 2: a doctor with what would be a terminal illness and

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Speaker 2: that's it. Today. Where are we in this higher consciousness

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Speaker 2: with understanding advancement? Yeah, now it's a new beginning, right.

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Speaker 2: It's the same with astrology. Yes, this is a challenging time. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Saturn is oppose your Pluto squaring, you're your honors okay,

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Speaker 2: but what when you come out of that. You'll be

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Speaker 2: better if you dance to the beat and sing to it.

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Speaker 2: Is it going to be easy?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: Will it be rewarding? Absolutely?

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Speaker 6: You know, Gosh and to know ultimately, and again, as

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Speaker 6: we said at the beginning, it's not about making excuses

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Speaker 6: or hiding behind again you know my Saturn or my

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Speaker 6: my you know Mars. But by forgiveness, you know, when

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Speaker 6: you really see the person as they are. It's not

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Speaker 6: about making excuses. It's about forgiving. More importantly, forgiving yourself, right.

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Speaker 1: One million person, if you do nothing else in this life,

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Speaker 1: please forgive yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, because.

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Speaker 1: Please accept your life and be aware so you can

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Speaker 1: use it in service to yourself and the greater good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I can't. I can't feel that with every

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Speaker 2: five or we either serve or we suffer in this life.

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Speaker 2: And to live to tell, right, a communicator all of

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Speaker 2: these great healers and awakeners your day.

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Speaker 1: You're a part of this I received. But listen, this

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Speaker 1: episode of the show is not about me, no, but you.

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Speaker 2: But it speaks. But it speaks, it speaks to what

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Speaker 2: we're talking about, this belief system, this sacred this sacred

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Speaker 2: spiritual science.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes yes, And we all have a call,

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Speaker 1: My god, dude, we all have a call. Please, everyone

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Speaker 1: listening and connecting to this episode, let this be the

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Speaker 1: permission and the sign to answer the call. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to have it fully fleshed out. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to know the mechanics of the how and the when

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Speaker 1: and the why, and you don't need the details. You

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Speaker 1: have the theme. Can you get your birth chart. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to have the details on how these will

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Speaker 1: be executed and come to life, but you have the

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Speaker 1: greater understanding. How are you meant to be used? How

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Speaker 1: are you meant to serve? How are you meant to

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Speaker 1: learn to grow? How are you meant to love? How

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Speaker 1: are you meant to explore pleasure? How are you meant

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Speaker 1: to be creative and curious? It feeds all of it,

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Speaker 1: not just you know some of the heavier challenges the

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Speaker 1: life's work of a purpose or a healing, but it

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Speaker 1: helps inform you know something I love. For instance, in

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Speaker 1: my chart, my venus is in Taurus, so being able

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Speaker 1: to own the fact for me that like pleasure is

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Speaker 1: through beauty. I love creating, touching, smelling, being near things

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Speaker 1: that are evocative, things that are inviting, that are warm,

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Speaker 1: that are interesting and beautiful in their own ways, you know,

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Speaker 1: and knowing that part of my chart, how my creative

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Speaker 1: energy best blows, how I best give and receive love

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Speaker 1: like those are some of the juicier exciting parts about

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Speaker 1: being able to work with your chart.

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Speaker 2: And I love that you said that you have venus

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Speaker 2: and Taurus. Venus is at home there. You have such

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Speaker 2: you synergize that with every other element in your chart.

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Speaker 2: You have someone who can look at a beautiful you

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Speaker 2: see the detail, and you see the big picture artistically,

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Speaker 2: and I really like to counsel my clients when they're

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Speaker 2: going through a challenging time. Yes, it's challenging, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not telling you to throw the baby out with the

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Speaker 2: bathwater and become a singer or an artist or a painter.

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Speaker 2: But you have a natural affinity, So why don't you

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Speaker 2: use that as akatharsis as a remedy for your pain.

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Speaker 2: That's a part of you.

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Speaker 1: That's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: That beauty is a part of you, and it's healing.

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Speaker 2: It's another part. It's not about you suddenly becoming, you know,

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Speaker 2: a pain. Pick up that camera, start taking pictures, because

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Speaker 2: perhaps right down in the sky the energy that rules

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Speaker 2: photography is in harmony with say you're Venus Andaurs. Pick

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Speaker 2: up a camera. Even if it's just for yourself and

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Speaker 2: no one sees it, it means everything, and it's so healing,

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Speaker 2: it's so cathartic. We've got to get away from wanting

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Speaker 2: a million people to like whatever we put out there.

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Speaker 2: We have to like ourselves first, yes, and know that

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Speaker 2: we have that ability, that beauty that you have with art.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think you're going to go and

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Speaker 2: you know, start shooting for architectural digestion. You very well could.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen your home and it puts the

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Speaker 2: shame frankly to some people who are in the business.

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Speaker 1: But you know, but you know what I'm saying, right, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love that so much, Daryl. God, that's such beautiful,

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Speaker 1: actionable direction, you know, actionable, actionable and to you know,

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Speaker 1: to your point of liking oneself, to like and to

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Speaker 1: really authentically love oneself, you have to be willing to

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Speaker 1: be in practice with yourself. You have to have a

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Speaker 1: few different drafts that you kind of move through and

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Speaker 1: you're not frustratingly balling up your first draft and throwing

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Speaker 1: it away. You're just kind of like, Okay, that's the

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Speaker 1: first draft, and where can I go from there? What's

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Speaker 1: the elevation from there? What's the next thought? The next ability?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and as you well know, it's it's it's human

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Speaker 2: nature sometimes for someone to look at you and say

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Speaker 2: she's on top of the world. You know, they have

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Speaker 2: no idea that there's no such thing as overnight success.

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Speaker 2: At all.

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Speaker 1: At all, ever, ever, never, never.

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Speaker 2: But that's also a testament to when you're in spite

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Speaker 2: of shining, you know, but.

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Speaker 1: I love you, Darryl Gains. Darryl, thank you so so, so,

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Speaker 1: so so much for coming on the show, for sharing

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Speaker 1: your wisdom, for sharing your profound gifts, and for all

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Speaker 1: the beauty that you bring into the life of your

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Speaker 1: clients and of all the people that know you. I

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Speaker 1: am so grateful for you, so grateful for your work,

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Speaker 1: so grateful you said yes to your gifts and your calling.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Debbie. I mean, there are no

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Speaker 2: words but thank you, thank you, thank you. I appreciate it,

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Speaker 2: and as I say so many times, to be blessed

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Speaker 2: and invigorated by the charts of my clients to know

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Speaker 2: this is how I got over. This is how we

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Speaker 2: can get over. This is how we go through these

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Speaker 2: cycles of life. Dreaming, yes, but dreaming with our why

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Speaker 2: our eyes wide open. We gotta dream, We got to

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Speaker 2: got to accept the reality. But we have to dream

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Speaker 2: with our eyes wide open because it's here. This is again.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry for the overlief, but this is the most

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Speaker 2: exciting time to be alive. As challenging as it is,

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Speaker 2: especially when we tune into all of that stuff the news,

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Speaker 2: there's no question.

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Speaker 1: As intense at as it is. Yeah, really it's a

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Speaker 1: really charged intense time that there is is a lot to.

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Speaker 2: It, and that's why your voice has been elevated now

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Speaker 2: more than ever.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everyone. Please go follow Darryl at Guiding Planet

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Speaker 1: head to his website guidingplanet dot co. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: and a little bit of soul work for this episode,

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Speaker 1: you know, when we are sitting in all of this

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Speaker 1: expression that was so beautifully shared with us from Darryl.

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Speaker 1: I want you after this episode, if you have some

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Speaker 1: time today and this week before we join one another again,

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Speaker 1: get a journal, Get in your safe space, get in

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Speaker 1: your sacred space that you've created wherever that is, take

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Speaker 1: some deep breaths, and, as best you can, from a

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Speaker 1: lens of neutrality and non judgment for your experiences, start

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Speaker 1: to get down on paper the beginnings of the awareness

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Speaker 1: of the themes that play in your life. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you're ready for this, and also if you've already done this,

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Speaker 1: connect it with your chart, get a reading or if

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Speaker 1: that is not a possibility, in this moment in time

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Speaker 1: for you, two apps that I recommend very strongly are

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Speaker 1: the pattern app by the amazing Lisa Donovan and the

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Speaker 1: Chany app by Channi Nichols. Both are very different. Both

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Speaker 1: are very thorough and very beautiful expressions of your chart.

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Speaker 1: So that's something that you can do from your phone,

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Speaker 1: but I encourage you to find an astrology expert, someone

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Speaker 1: that has been really seasoned in doing this, and sit

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Speaker 1: with your chart. Go to guideplanet dot go, and as

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Speaker 1: you do that, I want you to start identifying what

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Speaker 1: are the themes at play in your unique personal life.

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Speaker 1: That's the start. The more you spend time, the more

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Speaker 1: you add to that paper, the more you'll begin to

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Speaker 1: intuitively connect to the greater understanding of how your life

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Speaker 1: is intended to be used and how you're intended to heal,

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Speaker 1: to grow, to transform, and ultimately to serve. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us on Deeply Well. I'm Debbie Brown and

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Speaker 1: I'm mis Stay connect with me on social at Debbie Brown.

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Speaker 1: That's Twitter and on Instagram, or you can go to

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Speaker 1: my website Debbie Brown dot com. And if you're listening

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Speaker 1: to the show on Apple Podcasts, don't forget, Please rate, review,

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