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If you're listening on the podcast, we appreciate 28 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: you doing so, and we're going to take you all 29 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: the way up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. So, 30 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: the hiring of Mike McDonald has worked for the Seattle Seahawks. 31 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 4: The hiring of Mike Rabel has worked. 32 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: You're the New Island Patriots. You're the mic cam right 33 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: singing to the mic. And the hiring of Mike McCarthy. Yeah, 34 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers the next. 35 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: Mic, Mike, let's go a big mic. 36 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 6: We need some Steelers polka just for far. Come on, 37 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 6: local boy goes he did go back. Come on boss, Yeah, 38 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 6: he's back. 39 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: With great football. 40 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 4: He's from Pittsburgh. He's from Homestead. 41 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 42 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 4: Is dad on the bar? Yeah, firefighter the Steelers, Hey, Homestead. 43 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: That's the Mononga Halo. I do believe that's the Mond 44 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: side of Steelers. There's some good ones from the mon. 45 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 4: I'm on the Alleghany side. I have seen some. 46 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 3: Uh, then you have some ohioans. Oh yeah, that's how 47 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: we kind of label ourselves. 48 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 4: I've seen some people who are underwhelmed by the hiring. 49 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 4: A lot of people are claiming underwhelmed, which I don't understand. 50 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: They're saying that it's the same, like you just replace 51 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin with Mike McCarthy. That is what I've seen 52 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: a lot of. Like I didn't understand that, Brady, how 53 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: did you did? Somebody eloquently put it on social media 54 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 4: that you saw the. 55 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: You really want me to say this? Okay, So someone 56 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: compared the transition from Mike Tomlin to Mike McCarthy like 57 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: being the same as crapping your pants and changing your shirt. 58 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 7: Oh. 59 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: I found hilarious only because this is no disrespect. I mean, 60 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy could do a great job. I tend to 61 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: feel like regardless of like, no matter who's hired, when 62 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: they're hired, there's always like a portion of the fan 63 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: base who like doesn't like the hiring for some reason 64 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: and they have no clue, like they don't know they're 65 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: asked from their elbows, So like, why don't we want 66 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: to listen to that anyway? But just just the fact 67 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: that someone so eloquently put. 68 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 4: It that way. 69 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: UH was like, why why is this the same as 70 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: that scenario? 71 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 4: I just feel like it's connected. I think people just. 72 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: Want to say stuff like that, to say it because 73 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: it sounds funny. 74 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't. There's a great line. It's a 75 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 4: great line. 76 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: I don't see how it's accurate, though, I don't. I 77 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: don't see how anybody like saying that you you're hired 78 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: the same person like I don't. 79 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: I don't get that comparison. 80 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: One's offensive mind and one is defensive minded, clearly, and 81 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: they've always defensive minded coaches. This is an offensive minded coach, 82 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 3: and which, by the way, happened to be the one 83 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: that was there when Aaron Rodgers became a packer and 84 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: was there for the success run that he had as 85 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: a packer. 86 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 4: Pretty much his best years were with Mike McCarthy. 87 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 3: I started wondering, did they bring in Mike McCarthy just 88 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: because of what that could represent for Aaron Rodgers coming 89 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 3: back potentially and them running it back for maybe another 90 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: year or so. I wondered if that played any into it. 91 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I know that wouldn't be the main reason, 92 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 3: but it's. 93 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: An interesting reason. Although did they have horror of a 94 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: beef at kind of like a beef? Yeah, it seemed 95 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: like it. 96 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 4: And what was it? 97 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: Because they brought in what it wasn't even Jordan Love, 98 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 3: it was it was somebody else, was the kid from 99 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: UCLA or they brought in another guy and he got. 100 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 4: Like all up in arms about it. That was this McCarthy. 101 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 4: Wasn't there for Jordan Love? Yeah, I know that it 102 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: was a Yeah Hunley, I think that might be the name. 103 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: I think they got rid of his Was it his 104 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 4: quarterback coach or his offensive coordinator got who was his quarterback? 105 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: That was his buddy? 106 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: It was Tom Clemmens, And I think that's kind of 107 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 4: what led to some. 108 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, neither one of them are in the same 109 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: position they were in when that beef took place. So 110 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: why not you're at the end of your career. Mike 111 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: McCarthy could be at the end of his career. 112 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: Run it back, you know. See, if y'all can do it, 113 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 4: you could do a lot worse of Mike McCarthy. Man, Like, 114 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: he's won a lot of games, top fifteen all time 115 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 4: in wins, and you say whatever you want about his 116 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 4: time with Dallas, Like you know, the Cowboys had you know, 117 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: some some pretty good runs there. They didn't do big 118 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: things in the postseason, but yeah, I look at it, 119 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 4: I go, you know, like the same fan that are 120 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: questioning the Steelers hiring McCarthy, Like, if there's one thing 121 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: the Steelers have proven, they're better at this than anybody 122 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: else in the league, Like they're better at finding coaches 123 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: than anybody Else's why they've only had to do it 124 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 4: four times in like one hundred years, because they went 125 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: through the whole process and they identified as him being 126 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: the guy. And I think it's probably more likely that 127 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 4: him and Roger that this would entice Rogers to come back. 128 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 4: But I don't know if that was the sole reason 129 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 4: why they made the move. 130 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: I mean he went twelve look here man, twenty one, 131 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: twenty two, twenty three. Those three years he won twelve games. Yeah, 132 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: with Dallas it was good. 133 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: I mean not last year. 134 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: There where he won seven games, Okay, but you were 135 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: winning twelve games in Dallas. That's not that's nothing to 136 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: sneeze at, especially doing it in Dallas. 137 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the tough thing about those years 138 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: it was like the way it ended, you know, like 139 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: we at that point I think we all viewed Dallas 140 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: as a playoff team and they just had some awful, 141 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: awful finishes, right, I mean one of the games was 142 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: that when they lost to Rogers when he came back 143 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: with the Packers. 144 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was three well twenty sixteen. Was that 145 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 4: was McCarthy, No, that was I think macarthy macarthy was 146 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 4: there afterwards MacArthur's Yeah, yeah, Packers Cowboys played in the 147 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: play that year. And did it? Was it in twenty 148 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 4: three twenty four? Oh yeah, when Jordan Love lit him up? 149 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, did the dan Quinn final game? 150 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, so that was so I'm thinking of 151 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: that one the Niners Miners when zee Kelly kept blown up. Yeah, 152 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: on the last twenty one made in the last that was. 153 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: There was just some really bad down the stretch performances. 154 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: And the clock management on on that drive in particular, 155 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: by the way, I mean, there was some questions that 156 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: the clock the clock ran out on them, right, There 157 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: was some questionable moments, but I mean he had he 158 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: had them going in the right direction I compared to 159 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: where they compared to where they were, they were going 160 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: in the right Hey, listen, is it the right move? 161 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: We'll find out that's the beauty of sports. But he 162 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: is a Yenser. He's from He's from Man. I don't 163 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 3: want to say Mon Valley, but it could be in 164 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: the Man Valley. I'm not sure Homestead is not. Maybe 165 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: it's not the Man Valley. But anyways, he understands the area. 166 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 4: That that's to me. 167 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: I don't know how important that is at this point, 168 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: but he does have his his roots there. And you know, 169 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: this is a team that I don't know. You guys 170 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 3: tell me it's a it's an aging team. They do 171 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: have some pieces like Joey Porter Junior. You know, they 172 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: have a you guys that to me, you can move 173 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: into the future with. But I think there's there's way 174 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: more questions surrounding this roster. I mean, you got a 175 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 3: aging Hayward. Uh, you got a aging TJ. 176 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 4: Watt. 177 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: You you you still have major questions and concerns about 178 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: what your quarterback position is going to look like. If 179 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 3: I were, if I were reasonable and sensible, I'd have 180 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: to probably say, do I have questions about DK Metcalf, 181 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: which is your one receiver and your playmaker. I mean, 182 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,599 Speaker 3: obviously he shows lapses in judgment at times. I just 183 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: think there's a lot of question marks surrounding this roster 184 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: and how are how are how is Mike Mike McCarthy 185 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 3: going to be judged and handled if you have to 186 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: go through some of the growing pains of a roster turnover. 187 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: I think that that's going to be the biggest question, 188 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 3: especially coming off of a year where you see two 189 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: two new head coaches playing in the Super Bowl, Like, Okay, 190 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: they can get it done in such a small amount 191 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: of time, Why wouldn't we be able to get it done. 192 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: I feel like that's going to be the standard, especially 193 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: for next season. 194 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think I don't know what the other 195 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 4: options there were on the table, because I do think 196 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 4: yet it's an aging roster. That's probably part of the 197 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 4: reason why Mike Tomlin maybe decided now is the time. 198 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 4: But you know, will be it will be fun to 199 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 4: see how he's welcomed in or welcomed back in Pittsburgh, 200 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: you know, back for probably his final stop as a 201 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: head coach in the NFL, in places that he's had 202 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: you know, success at previously. I also think that him 203 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 4: and Rogers, because Rogers kind of alluded to this that 204 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 4: the experience with the Jets made him appreciate his time 205 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: in Green Bay more and the Steelers are more similar 206 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 4: in structure and history that to the Packers. And I 207 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 4: wonder if McCarthy's probably going to get to Pittsburgh be 208 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 4: with the Steelers organization, and it's going to be similar 209 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 4: to where he's Like, Man, I just went through the 210 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 4: circus in Dallas, Like, he's not going to have an 211 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 4: owner who's doing a couple of interviews a week. He's 212 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 4: not going to have to answer questions about a bunch 213 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: of crap that Jerry Jones says. It's going to feel 214 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 4: more like what he had in Green Bay, you want 215 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 4: to call it, mom and pop whatever. And I wonder 216 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: if that was you know, that's also part of the 217 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: appeal here for McCarthy. 218 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: I wonder if the offense is going to be what 219 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: he wants. I mean, that was one of the biggest 220 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: differences towards the end of his career in Green Bay, 221 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: McCarthy and him Again, I don't know if they had 222 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: a butting of heads or however you want to phrase it, 223 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: but it felt like they were doing things that you know, 224 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: Rogers wanted to do more so, and then when when 225 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: Lafleur got there, you really saw the difference in the 226 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: amount of preestat motions and shifts and things that you know, 227 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: maybe Rogers didn't want to do quite as much of. 228 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: And this past year in Pittsburgh you were watching Arthur 229 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: Smith call the plays and he received a lot of flak. 230 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith, who, by the way, just got hired as 231 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: a High of States offensive coordinator. And so now you've 232 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: got Arthur Smith on one side, I think Matt Patricia 233 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: on the other unless he gets an NFL job. But 234 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: the reason why I bring that up is is just 235 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: I do wonder if there's an appreciation for it. But 236 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: how would that working relationship be. You know, would they 237 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: go back to what they were doing in Green Bay 238 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: or you know, is he going to be looking at 239 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: some of the things they were doing in Dallas and 240 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: say I want to implement some of that. So I 241 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's a big question mark to me. 242 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: If this was an effort to hire a coach they 243 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: felt like could work with Aaron Rodgers for one year, 244 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: it feels a bit short sighted because eventually they're going 245 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: to have to move on and you've got a quarterback 246 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: there that obviously didn't like the fact they drafted Jordan 247 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: Love where they did and maybe even how they went 248 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: about doing it. But now he's even more so in 249 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: the position where if Pittsburgh has the right guy fall 250 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: to them in this year's draft, I think that they'd 251 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: want to take them, or they'd want to take a 252 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: quarterback that they feel like could be their future. So 253 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: I look at it and just say, I think they 254 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: hire Mike McCarthy because they feel like he's the guy 255 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: that would make the most sense for their team at 256 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: this point and for Pittsburgh, and it doesn't have so 257 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: much to do with Aaron Rodgers at all. I could 258 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: be wrong. Is that door still open, of course, but 259 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: at this point, you know, I don't know that you're 260 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: banking or putting everything on that being part of the decisionally, 261 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: because it's probably only a one year thing. 262 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: Can't be based off of that. It can't be. 263 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: And you guys asked the question, can he get it 264 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: back to what it was for the Pittsburgh Steelers again? 265 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: Does the Pittsburgh way you said, mom and Pops, does 266 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: the mom and Pops, does the Pittsburgh way still have 267 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: a place in the National Football League? Can you still 268 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: win that way? Because I don't think he can. And 269 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: I think that that's why maybe you have a Pittsburgh 270 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: Steelers team that can be competitive but hasn't been able 271 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: to get over the hump of what it looks like. 272 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: You look at their their their stately brother to the 273 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: other side, to the eastern side of the state. They 274 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 3: do not run it like a mom and pop's operation. 275 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: They they they get after it a mob family. They 276 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: get after it. Well, well, hold on, now, Pittsburgh is 277 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: my family type deal too, the way they were at 278 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: but it's it's one is mom and Pop's family business. 279 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles. They're spending money, they'll they'll bring in free agents, 280 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 3: they'll they'll load up at at the different positions they're 281 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: going after the ring and and it shows Pittsburgh does 282 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: things in a very very traditional way of doing it. 283 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: And I don't know if that I don't know if 284 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: that's you cannot live in the Steel Curtain days when 285 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: there was no free agency, guys had had multiple jobs 286 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: outside of playing for the team, And you sat at 287 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: the bar with the local reporter to beat reporters, and 288 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: the local PD took you home to your wife and 289 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: knew your wife's first name and knew the kids' names, like, 290 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: it's not those days anymore. 291 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 4: It's way different. 292 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: And so for all of our fan base, you know, 293 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: the older ones at least to be living in the past. 294 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 3: I think what's going to have to happen is whether 295 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: it's Mike McCarthy. And if Mike McCarthy is smart, he's 296 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: going to have to usher in a new way of 297 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: doing things, a new way of thinking. How he gets 298 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: that done and survives if he doesn't win, I don't know. 299 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: Because when he wasn't good enough with Mike Tomlin, you 300 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: won with Mike Tomlin. So Mike McCarthy's going to have 301 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: to come in and do more than when And that's 302 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 3: what a lot of coaches are facing these days. You 303 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: have to come in and you have to do something 304 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 3: more than just win. So what that is I don't know. 305 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 3: Are you in a winning position to be able to 306 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: do just that? Maybe so it is a good organization, 307 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: But what are the expectations, What are the pros, what 308 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 3: are the cons? How do they play out for you? 309 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 3: How much time do you have? I mean, there's a 310 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 3: lot of moving pieces here as to can Mike McCarthy 311 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: be successful as the new head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. 312 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 4: By the way, some information about his dad's bar that 313 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 4: we can get to it. Okay, so all right, something 314 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 4: you guys know. That's good. 315 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: I was going to say, from the sheer numbers of it, 316 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: it is a step back. I mean, if you look 317 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: at Mike Tomlin's career numbers, he's got a better win 318 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: percenter's more wins during the course of the regular season. 319 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: The only thing that McCarthy holds over Mike Tomlin would 320 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: be playoff wins. I believe he's five hundred, so he's 321 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: eleven and eleven. I think Mike Tomlin's eight and twelve 322 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. They both have Super Bowls. You know, 323 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: at least Tomlin's bend to two one one lost one. 324 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 4: So what's the so what what is the big difference? 325 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: Would you say? What do you what's that on the 326 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 4: piece of paper? 327 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: They're both named Mike. 328 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 4: Okay, there you go, Okay, Yeah, that's where it probably begins. 329 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 4: And yeah, for some reason, LeVar was just showing me 330 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 4: that don't put that on me, bro, like a blank 331 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 4: piece of white paper. 332 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: You are one of the most hit in the undercovered 333 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 3: dudes like that man, don't put that on me. What 334 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: do you mean you want to try to put that 335 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: on me? Go ahead, say what you're feeling. What's the 336 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: big difference. 337 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 4: Between Mike McCarthy and Mike tom got got Let's do 338 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 4: what you wrote down now, let's go, let's let's see 339 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 4: where you go with this. LeVar wrote, LeVar that you 340 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 4: know that so cowardly? You do know that right? Just 341 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 4: stand on it. Put your tin toes down on it. 342 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: Stand on the difference between Mike Tomlin and Mike Carthy's white. 343 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 4: There you go and Mike Tomlins what African American? I 344 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: wasn't even gonna go there. It's radio. 345 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: They could be. 346 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 4: Whatever they want, human race. What do I do? Whoever 347 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 4: you wants? Radio? So are you familiar with this place? 348 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 4: Joe McCarthy's bar and grill bar? It was in the 349 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 4: its neighborhood bar. It was located in lower Greenfield. I 350 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 4: know where Greenfield is, al Corn Street off Greenfield Avenue, 351 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: and it was described here Italian spot. He was raised 352 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 4: a Steelers Carthy that's that's that's Irish. Yeah, damn red 353 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 4: it is. I don't know what that means, says Macarthy. 354 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 4: Irish who knows. I've gotten a lie every time I ask. 355 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 4: My dad tried to tell us one time, well, we're 356 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 4: one fifth Blackfoot Indian. Whoa, I swear to god, you 357 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 4: kind of look like you're one fifth Blackfoot Indian. My 358 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 4: mom's got some Native American on her side of things. 359 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 4: Oh okay, that's why you don't take your shoes off ever. 360 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 4: Huh like your foot color supposed to be how they 361 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 4: get that name. He's not all the way white. So 362 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 4: this so Mike McCarthy, I didn't need to call you 363 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 4: black food. That's a true story. So this place. McCarthy 364 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 4: was raised a Steelers fan in that area, and his 365 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 4: dad's bar was part of the working class quote yinser 366 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 4: community tied to the steel industry. So this is yins 367 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 4: are through and through man. Yeah, man, Yin's for the Winds. 368 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 3: I played against the McCarthy. I wonder if it's the 369 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 3: same family. They went to North Allegheny. It's not a 370 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 3: very common name. And guess what his name was, Mike McCarthy. 371 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: I do believe, if I recall correctly, Mike McCarthy played 372 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 3: for North Alley game. 373 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 4: Well, he's significantly older than you. No, it wasn't Heim. 374 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 4: It was a different McCarthy. Who knows nowadays? Maybe there 375 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 4: was nil back then he was going back for more. Well, 376 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 4: if there was, it was that North Alley game. By 377 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 4: the way, have you ever wiped the pie to try 378 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 4: toilet paper and wondered? Is this as good as it gets? 379 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: Fit's not switched to life changing Wet extra large flushable 380 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 4: Dude Wipes because wetter just cleans better. Available at Amazon 381 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 4: and at major retailers nation. Why dude Wipe's best clean 382 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 4: pants down? All right, it's coming up next here. 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Uh Luke Farelli, who was a transfer 412 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 4: that entered the portal from cal a linebacker committed to 413 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: Clemson apparently got you know, read at a car, was 414 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: in classes place to stay committed to Clemson. Everything was fine, 415 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 4: but apparently signed. 416 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: Is an aal won't deal or whatever? Correct, Yeah, and 417 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 3: he signed off on that. He apparently did Did he 418 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: did it? Because I wasn't sure if that was if 419 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 3: he had signed any paperwork for his nial deal. 420 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 4: It was pretty uh, it's pretty Was it complete? I 421 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 4: mean it seemed like it. And so all of a 422 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 4: sudden he had re entered the portal. Now he's at 423 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 4: ole Miss, and people are wondering because I kind of 424 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 4: put Clemson in a bad spot because he was going 425 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 4: to be a big addition to the linebacker room. And 426 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 4: by the time he re entered the portal, you know, 427 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 4: everything had pretty much dried up. And so Dad was 428 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 4: Sweeney was peeved about that, and he detailed the recruitment 429 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 4: of Luke Farelli by ole Miss. 430 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 8: Over the weekend, Sorels met with Luke face to face 431 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 8: in his office, and Luke communicated that Pete texted him 432 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 8: on Wednesday morning, the head coach at ole Miss, when 433 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 8: he was in his eight am class, and. 434 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 5: He said the text message said, I know you're signed. 435 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 5: What's the buyout? Coach Golding also texted him a picture 436 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 5: of a one million dollar contract. Luke also mentioned to 437 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 5: Jordan that coach Golding had had Trinidad Chambliss call him 438 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 5: from his phone, and that coach Golding was was there 439 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 5: continuing to talk on his phone to push him to 440 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 5: re enter the transfer portal. He also said that Jackson 441 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 5: Dart had reached out and called him. There's tampering and 442 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 5: then there's blatant tampering. 443 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: You know. 444 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 5: Tampering one oh one is when you're talking to kids 445 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 5: who aren't in the portal. Tampering two oh one is 446 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 5: when you've already negotiated the deal with the kids not 447 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 5: in the portal. Tampering three oh one is when you 448 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 5: got a kid who's going in the portal, sign somewhere 449 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 5: and move there, going to classes, and you still you're 450 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 5: texting them while they're in class. That's like a whole 451 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 5: other level of tampering and it's total hypocrisy. 452 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 9: So I think this is one of the reasons though, 453 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 9: why Dabbo didn't want to deal with this in the past, 454 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 9: because a number of things, I mean, they might have 455 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 9: been you know, financially viable or able to compete in 456 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 9: that way, but also because you subject yourself to all 457 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 9: of this. 458 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you if you want to get involved in 459 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: the game, you're gonna realize it's the wild wild West. 460 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: It's nasty, there's there's no one really truly enforcing any 461 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: sort of punishment for all of this. Uh, it's egregious. 462 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: And by the way, this has gone on before nil 463 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: became a thing. I mean, there were teams trying to 464 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: get players off rosters way back when, and they would, 465 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, entice them with money under the table. So 466 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: this isn't new. I think the frustration for Dabbo and 467 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: a lot of other coaches are it's supposed to be 468 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: all above board, all very transparent, and even when it is, 469 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: there's still people who are cheating or betting the rules 470 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: and there's really no form of punishment outside of outing them. 471 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 4: Is that the fairest way of putting it. Yes, that's 472 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 4: a fair way of putting it. I would have a 473 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: hard time, like because I understand Dabbo's frustrating. Yeah, he 474 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 4: mentioned he brought up the nil stuff that you talked 475 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 4: about years like a couple of years ago. You know, 476 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 4: that's why Nick Saban bailed, Halfley left Boston College, Chip 477 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 4: Kelly bailed. I just think that there's some guys that 478 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 4: look at this and go I just I don't want 479 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 4: to be a part of this, and I just I 480 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 4: don't think Davo's He's not for long. In this current landscape. 481 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 4: It feels like the clock is ticking. There were people 482 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 4: that you know, called for his job because about disappointing 483 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 4: they were last year. I would just have a hard 484 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 4: time as a coach dealing with the fact that we 485 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 4: think we've got a guy, we think he's he's already 486 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 4: in class and Davo's got to sit up there and 487 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 4: read text messages back and forth. And then you know, 488 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 4: the ad for for Ole Miss after they've reached out 489 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: and said, hey, can you tell him to stop reaching 490 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 4: out to our kid and showing him screenshots of a 491 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 4: million dollar contract, and the ad at Old Miss was like, listen, 492 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 4: I'll tell him. But Pete does what he wants to do. 493 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 4: It's just the whole thing is bananas that this stuff 494 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 4: goes on Until. 495 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 3: There's enough rules to govern these types of things taking place, 496 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 3: everybody's going to have to deal with this this new landscape. 497 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: And I don't I don't know again, I told you, 498 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: I see how these guys are recruiting and how they're 499 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: they're looking at you know, scouting, you know, pregames and 500 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 3: stuff like that on the fields, and how blatant it 501 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: is that, you know, the way they're breaking down and 502 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: looking at the players on the opposite teams, that just 503 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 3: it is a new day and age. And within this 504 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 3: new day and age, how do you how do you 505 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: navigate it properly? And I would I would offer this, 506 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: I would, I would say, at the risk of sounding 507 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 3: kind of corny, you it's never been more relevant to 508 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: recruit a kid from a good family than more than 509 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: ever now. And I don't know the kid for really, 510 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: I don't know what type of family background he has, 511 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: family history, but I do know in simpler times, a 512 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: man taught his children, a man taught his son to 513 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 3: honor your word. 514 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 4: If if I made the deal and I shook your hand, 515 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 4: that was a deal, and we move move with the deal. 516 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 4: You know, if we. 517 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: Signed a contract, we signed the contract, honor the contract, 518 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: deliver your deliverables, be a man about it. I think 519 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: that this is this is one of those moments where 520 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: if the dollar is going to continue to win out, 521 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 3: maybe the only chance you have. And I look at 522 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: what took place with Indiana this year and how they 523 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 3: had no stars players on their team and how they 524 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: were able to go undefeated and win a national title. 525 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 3: And by the way, against the team in the national 526 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: title game that was a high nil spending team, by 527 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: the way, against the Ohio State team, which was a 528 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: high nil spending team. 529 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 4: I think that's it's on point. 530 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 3: You have to start understanding who you are recruiting, what 531 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 3: type of person they are, what type of people they are, 532 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 3: where they come from, what type of family, And that 533 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: has to be more of what you're looking into the 534 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: value of them as people, not just the value of 535 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 3: what they bring to the table athletically as a football player. 536 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: And that might be the only to me, that might 537 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: be the only sensible approach, because otherwise you're just going 538 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: to be in the rat race with everybody else who's 539 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: offering these top players, you know, money and benefits. 540 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: So what's changed in the past, you know, ten years, 541 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: twenty years, and you'd say, well, nil, because now these 542 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: guys are able to make Some of these players have 543 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: always made money. Like that's the dirty truth to everything 544 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: is there's been programs, there's been schools that have paid 545 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: players regardless of whether or not it was legal, And 546 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: we call it name image and likeness, or there are 547 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: collectives created for it. It's always been this way. There's 548 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: always been players who are paid under the table to 549 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: go to one school versus another. And it's interesting that 550 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: now that it's become above board, there's certain institutions now 551 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: that are succeeding and there's others who are or are 552 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, falling more by the wayside, or I'll just 553 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: say that the landscape has been leveled off. 554 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 4: I'll leave it at that. 555 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: To me, the biggest issue with everything that's going on 556 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: in college sports and basketball is kind of its own animal. 557 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,239 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm not going to include basketball, even 558 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: though it still plays a role. It's a transfer portal. 559 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: The fact that all these kids are able to every 560 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: single year test out their their market rate, you know, 561 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: their marketability, it leads to so many, I think issues 562 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: short term and long term. There is no commitment more 563 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: than a year, and that the commitment is purely based 564 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: on financials in most cases. I mean, if you took 565 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: away the ability for these student athletes to transfer year 566 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: or year, the decision making process looks a lot different 567 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: on the way in and even once they do decide 568 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: the transfer, whether it's they get one free opportunity to transfer, 569 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: and then the next their penalizes they have to sit 570 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: out a year. Or however you go about conjuring that up. 571 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: Maybe you just stated within the contract and there you 572 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: make big buyouts, et cetera, et cetera. However you go 573 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: about doing it. My whole general point to this is 574 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: there is no commitment. You know, there's people who are 575 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: trying to constantly you know, improve rostrand. And by the way, 576 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: even back when there was a penalty to sit out 577 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: for a year, what ended up happening then was the 578 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: NCAA was getting abused with all these different claims by 579 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,239 Speaker 1: players and they'd have you know, law firm represent them 580 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: in this to say it was a hardship waiver. That 581 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: was the quote unquote, that was the way they went 582 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: about went about around it. Before the transfer portal didn't 583 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: penalize them and set them out a year. So then 584 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: they did create a hardship waiver. And how that worked, well, 585 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: they could make any claim they want and no one's 586 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: ever gonna you know, question it, and for the most part, 587 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: they all got approved, especially if it looked like it 588 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: was a professionally prepared argument that they can't be at 589 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: that school anymore. They need to go somewhere else, so 590 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: they get a hardship waiver and they show up at 591 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: the next school and they're immediately eligible. So even that 592 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: was started to go around the issue with all that, 593 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: and so I look at it and just say, if 594 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: you found a way to make kids at least commit 595 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: to going someplace getting their degree, or maybe that's what 596 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: it would be about. Maybe you say, if we still 597 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: want to make education a strong component of this, say 598 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: the kids got to graduate, and until you graduate, you 599 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: can't transfer penalty free, and there's no hardship waiver, none 600 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: of that bs. You got to actually commit. You got 601 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: to go to a place, whatever contract you sign on 602 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: the way, and where that's where're going to be at. 603 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: And maybe unless there's a coaching change, you can then say, okay, 604 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,919 Speaker 1: now we can open up to look elsewhere. But until 605 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: that's the case, like this is where you're going, and 606 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: you need to graduate. Once you get your degree, transfer 607 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: as many times as you want. You've got two years 608 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: left of eligibility, three years. I mean, some of these 609 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 1: kids come in with a year of school almost already 610 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: done nowadays, and with severer school and everything else. They 611 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: can graduate in three years. I mean, how I did 612 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: it in three and a half basically when I was 613 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: in college that was forever ago. So that, to me 614 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: is still the bigger issue with all this is the 615 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: ability for all these kids to transfer at will and 616 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: not make any commitment at least not more than a year. 617 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: I think that plays a huge role. 618 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 4: It's just such a spicy time in college football right now. 619 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 3: Well, then throw some spot on it then with some 620 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 3: Louisiana Hot sauce. A big game is in Santa Clair 621 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 3: this year, but the original Louisiana Hot sauce. You can 622 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 3: make it a Louisiana Hot deal with just three simple 623 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: ingredients peppery peppers, vinegar and sold. Instead of a touchdown dance, 624 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: you'll be busting out bourbon street boogies. 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It's 651 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: over a foot, but it's been quite the winter Wonderland, 652 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: so it's been a lot of fun to play with 653 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: the kids. However, they are not going to school today, 654 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: which is there school no? Based on the roads though, 655 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, and I get it. I understand 656 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: a lot of these school districts nowadays, there's multiple considerations 657 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: like bus stops. You know, a lot of the sidewalks 658 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: probably aren't safe for you know, it's frigid temperatures, and 659 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: you know what the kids out in that maybe they're 660 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: worried about the teachers getting to school and slipping falling, 661 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: and there's a lawsuit on your hands, whatever the case 662 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: may be. I understand why it's the case. That's the case, 663 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: and it is cool because you have to like build 664 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: memories with your kids. That being said, you know, it 665 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: just it felt like they probably could have just saying really, 666 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll put it this way. If you can 667 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: see the road and it's like clear as day to me, 668 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I think you're good. We're going 669 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: to be driving on this. Everyone should be safe. I 670 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: think we're I think we're fine. 671 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 3: I've always said the most dangerous the most dangerous times 672 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 3: is when you you can't weigh and if you lived 673 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 3: in California, I was actually born. 674 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 1: And raised in Oregon, and I did a lot of 675 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 1: snow driving actually, thank you very much, But it snows 676 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 1: that much in organ. 677 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 4: Enough, like like you're no, but to say I've never 678 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 4: driven in snow. 679 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: Is this is our ir not your I'm just saying. 680 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 4: On the road that you should worry about if you're 681 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 4: taking our kids to school and. 682 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: They're heavily salted. And those buses, by the way, are 683 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: not going to slip on an ice patch. I've got 684 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: Duelly's on them. The weights. 685 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, black ice is a real thing. 686 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 3: And I know, I know, I know I shouldn't be 687 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 3: the one saying black eyes it's true. Now, I'm just 688 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 3: saying black eyes is real. 689 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 4: And there was a. 690 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 3: Bus accident where I think in Jersey thirteen kids like 691 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 3: you know, oofed keep your kids home? Yeah thirteen oof 692 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 3: So what but anyway. 693 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: When we get into this, but uh yeah, it's anyway 694 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: the roads. Well, the other thing is my dad's grown 695 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: up salting play. Basically since you came back from Vietnam, 696 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: that's what landscape companies become in the wintertime. He's very 697 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: much on top of this. But no, let me, let 698 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: me just abide in what Lorna thinks coming from Oregon. 699 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, just. 700 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 3: The weather does get bad in Oregon. It does, Yes, 701 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 3: it does, it does, but it ain't as bad as 702 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 3: is that Midwest. Now that that northern you know that 703 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 3: the northern areas, you know, Pennsylvania, Ohio. 704 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 4: You know Jersey by the way, How how far out 705 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 4: do they let you know that the kids aren't coming 706 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 4: to school? 707 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. This is for this was far 708 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: enough out where you're like, you don't even want to 709 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: wait and see what the storm does. I mean, there 710 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: were some schools that canceled on Saturday before it even snowed, 711 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 1: and you're going, Okay, we wait and see what actually 712 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: happens first. Now, granted, it snowed a lot, and it's 713 00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: probably warranted, i'd say, especially in some rural areas where 714 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: maybe it's not as well maintained. But for some of 715 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: the schools, you know, they probably could have had school 716 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: if they really wanted to. But you know, I don't know. 717 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: I feel like back in the old days, we used 718 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: to have school less unless the storm hit, like on 719 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: a weeknight, like you were your ass was going to school. 720 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 4: Now I was happy when I got a two hour 721 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 4: delay stop that back in the day. 722 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: They get away with that. They don't even do delays anymore. 723 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 3: No, the two hour delay was the dit. When I 724 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 3: wake up and see it snowing outside, I turned that 725 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 3: news on. I see two as to see the just 726 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 3: schools scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, I see my district. I was like, 727 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 3: roll back, roll back over, plate, roll back over that 728 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 3: two hours made a difference. 729 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: But that's the thing is they either cancel it or 730 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: they have it. It's like we're all or nothing nowadays. 731 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: That's it. There's no one between. 732 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 4: Dang well, enjoy the day off, kids. I'm with it.