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Speaker 1: it against him. So even people with the best intentions.

427
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Speaker 1: So I guess what I'm getting. I don't know how

428
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: much will change. We keep going through this cycle though,

429
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: And we talked we talked about before how that the

430
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: racism meme is something that the Chinese know they can

431
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: use against us because we're culturally sensitive about They tell us,

432
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: they tell their people to use it, and they would

433
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: never I mean the Chinese intelligence services would never hire

434
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of American expats or naturalized Americans like that

435
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: would never ever happen, And they don't have to deal

436
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: with the same I mean, I hate to say political correctness,

437
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 1: because I mean, racism is obviously a horrible thing wherever is.

438
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: But they don't have to deal with that kind of

439
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: bleed off, that cultural mentality that we have in America. Meanwhile,

440
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: we're kind of hamstrung by that in the sense that

441
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: we we have that sensitivity from an espionage point of

442
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: there's nobody that looks like us working for the Ministry

443
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: of State Security, and that would never happen. It's never

444
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: going to happen. They wouldn't allow it to happen. And

445
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: it's okay, they can do. But at the same time,

446
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: they'll they'll call us racists, but they can, they can.

447
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: They're they're engaged in this, uh, this sort of countrywide

448
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: hegemonic project to harmonize their entire population in the one

449
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: with Tibet and shin Chang and uh and make everyone

450
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, Han Chinese, it's the master race. But we're

451
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: the racists. Yes, you could argue that they're engaged in

452
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: a countrywide eugenics project. That involves everything from the one

453
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: child policy to all kinds of other crazy shit. It's true,

454
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: but they use our our guilt against us. Talked about

455
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: this last time, the shame versus guilt culture. It's the

456
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: same thing. We have, this Western Judeo Christian guilt thing

457
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: that they just don't have to deal with. So and

458
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: you and I had a discussion recently about some of

459
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: our non American brethren are the most racist people on

460
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: the planet. They just don't They don't feel the need

461
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: to to wear the badge of shame about it. They

462
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 1: just own it. Yeah, And I mean people will say, well,

463
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: it's easy for you to say this as a white dude,

464
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: but I mean, i'd encourage you to talk to minority

465
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: Americans who have traveled abroad and you know about racism

466
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: in America versus racism and say Europe or many other

467
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: places that are like people are racist as so many

468
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: of these places. America has problems too, but I I,

469
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and not nearly as bad as Uh.

470
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Speaker 1: We talked about our role. Yeah, we're pretty open about

471
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Speaker 1: you know, how we have racism in America. It's I'll

472
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: give you an example. This is actually a really funny story, Um,

473
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: when I was sitting around with um iraqis that I

474
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: was training in northern Iraq. This is around two thousand

475
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: and nine, and it say to me, They'll be like, Jack,

476
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: you have a real problem with the gays in America.

477
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot of gay people in America. You have

478
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: a real problem with them. He's like, you know, we

479
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: don't have them here because we kill them. It's just incredible.

480
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: There's like, well, we don't, we don't have them. It's

481
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: just a total tone deafness that you know that doesn't exist.

482
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: And yet you know, all the guys I know who

483
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: have been stationed over in the Middle East, which I'm

484
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: sure you can, uh, you know, reciprocate the same comments.

485
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: Is that there's a lot of like behind the scenes,

486
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: it's huge, huge, and yet you know it's forbidden and

487
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: they don't consider they don't identify as homosexual. That's one

488
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: thing that's interesting about it. Even though you know Man

489
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: Love Thursday and all of that and goat love too

490
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: in Afghanistan absolutely, um and and in a rack also, yeah,

491
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a lot of man on

492
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: man action going so, but they just don't identify and

493
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: so if you don't talk about it doesn't happen. I

494
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: think that's part of it. It's having like a two

495
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 1: tiered personality, and they're I think they're more comfortable with that.

496
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: In America, we have different ideas about identity. L on

497
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: the Yeah, that's what the kids are calling it, Danielle. Yeah, man,

498
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: it's probably not even that anymore. Should go ahead. Sorry, No,

499
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: I was just gonna reset once again for the people

500
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Speaker 1: watching the live stream. Daniel d z A and Studio,

501
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: who's one of our newest writers. Um was great on

502
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: the podcast last time, so we brought her back in studio.

503
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: Came all the way out from d C, which we appreciate.

504
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: Former counter intelligence officer and instructor with the d I A. UM,

505
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Speaker 1: I know you also wanted to get into Korea, so

506
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: let's get into that. And also if you guys have

507
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: any questions, I know you like us being interactive and

508
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: asking stuff, so UM I'll try to get to those

509
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: at the end. Be sure to like this share it, um.

510
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, anything that he wanted to talk about involved

511
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: in the craziness with North Korea and South Korea right now,

512
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: especially with just being a couple of weeks away from

513
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: the Winter Olympics in South Korea at the height of

514
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: of craziness going on throughout the world in that region.

515
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: Have we heard yet? Are they actually fielding the women's

516
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: hockey team together in the North. That was the latest

517
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: PR stunt is we're going to put a female, really

518
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: female Korean hockey. That's the way to go. I can't wait. Yeah,

519
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: so I yeah, I did a piece on deer leaders cheerleaders,

520
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: which was a pretty good good title, thank you why?

521
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty good. But so they're sending

522
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: a two plus women cheerleading squad with their two Olympic

523
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,239
Speaker 1: athletes that qualified. I don't even know how they're going

524
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: to feel the hockey team because with just two athletes, well,

525
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: they have a pair of figure skaters, a man and

526
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: a woman who are going. So I'm not but anyway,

527
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: it's fine. I truly believe it's a PR stunt. I mean,

528
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: that's that's what Kim does. Okay, well, we'll tell you

529
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: we're going to behave during this time. It just gives

530
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: them six more weeks because this was a couple of

531
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: weeks ago they sat down with the South to continue

532
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: working on our program. They're never going to stop working

533
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: on their nuclear program, and where you know, we get

534
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: into Oh, it's it's Trump's fault. He's he's ratcheted up

535
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: the tensions. I don't think it's that. I will say though,

536
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: that where Kim used to feel, or at least his

537
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: dad and his grandfather used to feel, like keeping South

538
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: Korea hostage with the threat of nuclear tech was enough,

539
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: now it's keeping the United States hostage as well, because

540
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: now he has capability to reach our shores. Um everyone

541
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: in the Intel community pretty much agrees we're within six

542
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: months probably a of true full i CBM capability. But

543
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: right now they could hit us with any impulse, and

544
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: that would they could probably hit Hawaii. Yeah, so let's

545
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: talk about that false alarm in Hawaii. Yeah. Yeah. So

546
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: because I was a China hand, I did a lot

547
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: of my time out in paycom. Yeah, it was a

548
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: tough slog. Twice a year I get to go to

549
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: Hawaii and I know, Yeah, the guys who had to

550
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: go to Center come all the time. It's not fair.

551
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: You chose the wrong target set, That's all I'm saying.

552
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: I didn't choose the Army chose former. Well true. So anyway,

553
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: I used to go to Hawaii, lots of a lot

554
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: of friends that are still stationed there, and I start

555
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: seeing my Facebook feed blow up with did anybody else

556
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: get this alert? The hell is this? And so sure enough,

557
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: all of Hawaii gets this false alarm. But then I

558
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys saw a couple of days

559
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 1: later they get the same false alarm in Japan. Yeah,

560
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: so the writers we all started talking about this sounds

561
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: an awful lot like some phase zero info. They're trying

562
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: to desensitize, test the systems, desensitized, cause panic, ratchet at

563
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: the tensions on the peninsula, just like, oh look, look

564
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: it could happen. It was scary for well, who's able

565
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: to make these alerts happen? Is it? Is it Apple?

566
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: Or is it the No? No, So in Hawaii it

567
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: was the State of Hawaiian Emergency system. Doesn't mean that

568
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: person wasn't co opted. I don't know anything about him.

569
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm not going to throw that out there. Did you

570
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: see yesterday article came out about how in that office

571
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: there were pictures published from inside that office where they

572
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: had a little post it note on the screen with

573
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: the password. Yeah, I'm going to guess that there. Yeah,

574
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: They're information security was not that strong. Yeah, the one

575
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: in Japan was not the government, but it was the government,

576
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: and that it was a TV station I believe, but

577
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: like the BBC was actually owned by the government, So

578
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean there's still a government connection, but it I

579
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: was waiting to see if another one would come out

580
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: in the South, would there be a false alarm? But yeah,

581
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 1: either decense it is. And that follows up on that.

582
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: That fake memo also that was distributed to American families,

583
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: like I'd have to go back, maybe you look it up,

584
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: but it was telling them that they're like time to

585
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: evacuate the peninsula. Like yeah, but it begs the question,

586
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: what is the plan if that happened? Oh yeah, if

587
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: there had been an incoming I CBM to Hawaii. That's it.

588
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: And so I talked to some of my friends that

589
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: are aut like you know, I started writing letters. I

590
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: started thinking to myself and did you do them on

591
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: the computer? Because if you're actually writing them, where are

592
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: they go? Is this what you're referring to jack us

593
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: family personnel in South Korea to to evacuate the country

594
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: in fake Texas care and what what Danielle is referencing

595
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like what what the military would

596
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: refer to as operational preparation of the environment as U

597
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: S Forces Korea quote did not send this message, Defense

598
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: officials wrote in a follow up Facebook post. Anyone receiving

599
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: this false message should not click any links or opening

600
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: any attachments included in the correspondence. So things like that,

601
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 1: all these false alarms, it's kind of like you're testing us.

602
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: You're testing our systems to see how fast we'll react.

603
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: What will we do? What are our countermeasures? Do you

604
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: see troops moving to respond? Do you see ships moving? Like?

605
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: What are what are we going? What are we doing?

606
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: It's like firing a test shot basically, so that you

607
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: know how to counteract. That's when something really pops off.

608
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: And I don't know that we did well, No, it

609
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: doesn't seem so no, no, especially I need to find

610
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: this picture with the post it. Yeah, yeah, I think

611
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: it was on unlike Business Inside or yesterday. But that's

612
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: really But that also goes to the question who makes

613
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: the official alige? And so that's how everybody in Hawaii

614
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: started to realize, at least people that had some savvy

615
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: to this that thirty eight minutes later they finally got

616
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: a stand down, but it wasn't from the same text

617
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 1: alert system. It was actually the news. So for Hawaii

618
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: they get a text on the phone from the official system.

619
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: The official system never even sent out a a retraction.

620
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: So it was up for what like minutes, thirty eight

621
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: minutes before people started finding out. And by then there's

622
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: video of people running in the streets with their kids,

623
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: because why wouldn't you believe that that's true? Every person

624
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: you see, every wimpy baby look at the same time

625
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: in their phone, So something's up. So trying to find

626
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: underground shelter it was. It was really bad. But I

627
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: wonder what the worst consequences are that we haven't seen,

628
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: Like did anyone get a heart attack just hearing this news,

629
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Things like that? Maybe, I

630
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: mean that's possible, but yeah, you're right. So I think

631
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: they're prepping the environment somebody somebody is. Somebody is, and

632
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be necessarily North Korea. No, it

633
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: could be the Russians. That sounds like something trolling they

634
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: would do. Sounds like something the Chinese would do to

635
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: prep for Taiwan. Actually, well that's true, but I feel

636
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: like putin was bored. Let's see what we can make happens.

637
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: He's getting bored with needs something else. Yeah, he's bored

638
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Speaker 1: with old Ed. I miss ed everyone does ed misss ed.

639
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: He's lonely ed up there and fucking Siberia. Did you

640
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: see it? Wasn't there? Didn't he release some app to

641
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: help with your security? Yes, christ I didn't click on it.

642
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: I was afraid between that and Chelsea man and running

643
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: first Senate, I've almost had enough. Well, I'm reaching the

644
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: tip point. I think we're past the tipping point. Chelsea Manning.

645
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: That's ah, that's been one for the news. Hell. Yeah,

646
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: we got this who apparently lives around or has a

647
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: place around here. Yes, running in my state where I

648
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: currently live, Thank you very much. And that well that

649
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: was that's the same district that's Sam Fattest. Yes. I

650
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: begged Sam, please please get back. I sent him an email.

651
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Sam, we need you, budd to take

652
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: a hit for the team. Happen though, I mean, the

653
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: d C area is so incredibly liberal, like the well,

654
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: the voters are like something she's got she's gonna be Yeah,

655
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: she's gonna run in the same problem that Fattest did

656
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: was that he's been in that position for like forty years.

657
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, then you're it's like a Chuck Schumer situation.

658
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: Were never We're never having a different senator. You have

659
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: to beat Cardon for the Democratic slot anyway, which is unlikely.

660
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: Of course, he's like the senior senator for the party.

661
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: But can you imagine if they pulled out the old

662
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: white male privilege on him and like, why won't you

663
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: let Chelsea have your spot? Would? I would not be

664
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: surprised if they did that. It's time for a woman

665
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: to break that glass ceiling, right, even if that woman

666
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: has balls. And that's the interesting living now anymore, doesn't

667
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have not made inquiries. I would

668
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: just say it has to be interesting living there though,

669
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: because even though you know, as liberal as people say

670
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: New York is, there's definitely pockets that are not liberal.

671
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: The d C, the Beltway is is probably some of

672
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: the most liberal you'll you'll find in the COT. But

673
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: it's literally, I believe, because I've looked at numbers before

674
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: and it's been a while, I think it's like between

675
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: eighty and nine percent registered Democrats. Yeah, in Northern Virginia

676
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: and the and Maryland is definitely a blue state. Virginia

677
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: is a swing state, purple leaning way more blue recently,

678
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: although it did no, it didn't go for Trump, did it?

679
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: Northern Virginia didn't. Don't ask me, I can't remember. I

680
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: saw the county. I saw. There are plenty of people

681
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: who are not liberal in Virginia, but they mostly live

682
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: in the southern part. Maryland is fairly liberal. So to

683
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: just to wind things back to North Korea, but because

684
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: there were a couple of things I wanted to mention

685
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: on that, um, Well, one was, this isn't the first

686
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: time the Olympics have been hosted in South Korea. Last

687
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: time was and there was a big issue, a big

688
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: fear that the North Koreans would send terror cells and

689
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: things like that into the South and just re havoc. Um.

690
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: And that was why US Special Forces and there were

691
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: some Delta operators involved, stood up South Korean counter terrorism

692
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: units and did a lot of work getting ready to

693
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: prepare for that threat. Are doing that again, Um, we

694
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: have maintained a persistent presence, um, you know. And I

695
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: wrote a long article on softwarep which everyone can go

696
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: read now that the paywalls down, about Special Forces Detachment

697
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: Kay Detachment, Korea. So there's been a long term, persistent

698
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: engagement between US Special Forces and Korean special Forces UM

699
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: and in a time of war, they would come together

700
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: in a joint unconventional warfare task force, and there's all

701
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: kinds of battle plans for that. UM So, I have

702
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: no doubt that they're doing the preparatory work in the

703
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: run up to the Olympics. I'm sure they are. I'm

704
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: sure there's a lot of intelligence work going on on

705
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: the peninsula. They're being kept very busy. Bay, I don't know.

706
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: I don't think he's crazy. Everybody throws that out there.

707
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: He's not. He's not certifiably insane. It's not that. But

708
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: it's just, you know, we should talk about you mentioned

709
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: to me yesterday. No one ever talks about North Korea.

710
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: Who really whose fault is North Korea? Yeah, everyone thinks

711
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 1: so well as Americans were obsessed with America, and we think, yeah,

712
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: we think everything that happens in the world. If you know,

713
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: if if a bot fly farts in Brazil, it's America's

714
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: far fault. Um And and there are things that America

715
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: has tremendous influence around the world, and we do all

716
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: kinds of stupid things and make mistakes. Um, But a

717
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: lot of things that happened locally involved local, local situations,

718
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: and it's not all about America all of the time. UM.

719
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: So I think it's funny how like we kind of

720
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: turn on ourselves, like, oh, North Korea's America's fault. Um.

721
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: I see all this reporting that, uh that North Korea

722
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: has heavily invested in nuclear because they see America removing

723
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: dictators like Saddam Hussein Gadaffi, people who if they had

724
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: nuclear weapons would not have been removed. It's like, Okay, yeah,

725
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: that's one factor that plays into it. Sure, and that's

726
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: something we should think about in terms of American foreign policy.

727
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: You can't disprove the negative though. He was he was.

728
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: He was fucking dictatorial communist tyrant before any of that.

729
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: North Korea was a communist regime, a criminal regime before

730
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: any of that. Yes, I mean they're murderous of their

731
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: own people, which is very typical communism. People don't like

732
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: to And this whole thing started in right after World

733
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: War Two, and the people who propped up North Korea

734
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: was the USSR and read China, and that continues to

735
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: this day. The USSR obviously collapsed, but Russia and China

736
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: continue to support North Korea, the only reason North Korea

737
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: is still trucking along. So why the hell is this

738
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: all America's fault? Because I read an article in The Intercept,

739
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: our favorite news outlet, The Intercept had this article in

740
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: there that was so surreal. It was saying that the

741
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: reason why North Korea remains so antagonistic to towards the

742
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: West is because we dropped too many bombs on them

743
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: during the Korean War. Like, are you fucking kidding me?

744
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: We killed a bunch of communists during the Korean War,

745
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: and you're saying that what happened today that that all

746
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: of this antagonism is because of the Korean War. I mean, obviously, yes,

747
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: the Korean War left a profound impact on the Korean peninsula,

748
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: no question about that. But is this really why Kim

749
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: Jong the Un is stirring up all this ship with

750
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: us today because of the Korean War? Because he's like, oh,

751
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: my people were bombed by Americans. No that he doesn't

752
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: give a shit about them. Now, that's Kim John Cartman

753
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: looks just like him. It's the same same round head. No,

754
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: But if you asked any of the Koreans who were

755
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: subject to ju Che ideology, they'll tell you the same.

756
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: Everything is the Great Satan's because they have to. Yeah,

757
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: he knows better, he because he gets to travel and

758
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: build up his Hennessey collection. And you know, I was.

759
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: I was in Korea, um what like six no more

760
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: than six months ago at this point, and it was

761
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: interesting to talk to people there. I mean, I met

762
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: with people in the US military, but I also met

763
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: with obviously civilians, South Korean civilians, And like, there's this

764
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: big divide because you know, if you think in generations past,

765
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: there are people who have these memories of when the

766
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: Korean Peninsula was united, um, these memories of when they

767
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: were one country, and memories of course of Japanese colonialism. Uh,

768
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: all these sorts of things. But now we have a

769
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: younger generation in South kore area who have no memory

770
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: whatsoever of the United Korea, and those relatives don't they're

771
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: not as relevant to them like the older generation. They

772
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: remember brothers and sisters and cousins that are on the

773
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: other side. But and South Korea has been prosperous, They've

774
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: done very well for themselves. So if you're a college student,

775
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: young kid in South Korea is uniting the Korean peninsula.

776
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: You're a priority. No, it's probably probably on the list

777
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 1: of political issues you have. That's probably like way down

778
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: there somewhere. You want to talk about a refugee crisis,

779
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: that would be a refugee crisis. Yeah, it would be horrendous, right,

780
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: because not only the starvation, but just the lack of

781
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: understanding of basic modern culture. It was a modern culture.

782
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: Imagine the amount of trauma that those people have suffered

783
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: under since n even even before, because they suffered greatly

784
00:42:55,239 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: under Japanese colonialism as well since then today under it's

785
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: been worse by their own their own people. And we

786
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: talked about the cheerleaders before. They'll come out well fed

787
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: there the few. Yeah, they're the elite who actually get

788
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: two chickens a week instead of just one, you know whatever.

789
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: Nobody's as well fed as as Cartman is. But um,

790
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: but I remember crazy Fat Kid, as McCain says, I

791
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: remember a guy that worked at Dead k You did

792
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: some surreptitious work across the border talking about you know,

793
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: you get out into the fields and you see these

794
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: guys that look like potatoes on toothpicks is what he

795
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: called them, because they're so bloated from being malnourished and

796
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: then on these spendy little legs, you know, trying to

797
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: it could be three years ago, nothing's changed and the

798
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: way they're doing that, and so can you imagine the

799
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: flood of those people across the border who have never

800
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: seen a television couldn't possibly understand. I feel like we

801
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: may have talked about this on on the podcast once before,

802
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: but in my conversations with people over there, they were

803
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: telling me that things have changed over the last say

804
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: ten years in that what's happening is that the South

805
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: Korea or I'm sorry, the North Korean people, they're just

806
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: regular farmers and things like that. What they're doing is

807
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 1: they're engaged in black market trade across the Chinese border,

808
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: including south marijuana and UH and sometimes what they're getting

809
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: as payment includes um smuggled DVDs. So what they're doing

810
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: is when the when you know, at the end of

811
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: the night, they're you know, bunkering down inside their house

812
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: and they're playing UM. They're actually big fans of South

813
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: Korean soap operas and there that's what they think the

814
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: real world is like. Well, they're what they're through that

815
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: they're learning how life kinda is in South Korea and

816
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: that there's this this myth that this the myth and

817
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: North Korea is that the South has it really bad.

818
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: They're the ones who have really suffered. They think the

819
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: entire world has it worse off than they do. So

820
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: they're watching these these DVDs and these soap operas, and

821
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: they're coming to learn they can relate to it a

822
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: little bit because they're like, these are the Korean people. Yeah,

823
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: But at the same time they're seeing how radically different

824
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: their lives are. We did talk about this because I

825
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: mentioned that the Russian defector that I talked to said

826
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: that that's part of what prompted him to defect is

827
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: flying into the United States for the first time and

828
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,479
Speaker 1: seeing all of the swimming pools. It's like, wait a minute,

829
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: what the fun you guys have been telling us that,

830
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: you know, we in Russia standing in lines you know,

831
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: for bread this, and and he was elite. It was

832
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: gru but wait a minute, they all have pools? Are

833
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Well, that's why I think, you know,

834
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: we should trust our culture a little bit more than

835
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: we do, you know. But all this like beating up

836
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: on ourselves. And it's good to have self criticism, but

837
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: I think we take it over the line and beat

838
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: beat ourselves up and attack each other way more than

839
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: we should. We should have a little bit more trust

840
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: in America and in the American system. Um, just like

841
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: I think the South Koreans can trust in the South

842
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 1: their system and their culture that you know, they really

843
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: do and they have formed a better way of life

844
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: for themselves. They have this better alternative than the communist

845
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: system that exists in the North. But we're addicted to

846
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: being outraged here in America. No we're not. I don't

847
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: think you're gonna be able to tell people to stop

848
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: being outraged over every little thing here. Oh yeah, I know,

849
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: they're not gonna sizing everything. Well, it's what I was

850
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: I was actually saying this yesterday. We well, you know,

851
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: no one's gonna listen to what I'm saying. But my

852
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: triple blonde espresso was not smooth enough this point. There

853
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: is that by the way, that's like a it's like

854
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: a generational issue and our generation isn't going to be

855
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: able to deal with that. But I think, like say,

856
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: like my kids and your kids I think they're the ones,

857
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: like the millennials are really going to feel the brunt

858
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,479
Speaker 1: of it. They're gonna end up in mental institutions because

859
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: they don't know how to deal with how well, yeah,

860
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: and they don't know how to filter that out that's true? Well,

861
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: you well, what it's that you know, you and I

862
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: we remember a rotary telephone, a type or all the

863
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: ship that existed before the Internet. Millennials don't remember any

864
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: of that. They grew up in the digital age, so

865
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: they don't remember life before Facebook. Yeah, they don't know

866
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: how to turn that ship off and everything is readily

867
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: accessible and they expected to be and I don't. I

868
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: think millennials are really going to feel the brunt of

869
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: that because of that media saturation, that information saturation. And

870
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: I think it's going to take a whole generation. I

871
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be like my kid or your kids

872
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: who are a little younger now, they're gonna be the

873
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: ones who are going to have to figure out how

874
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: to use these technologies in a more healthy, productive way. Um,

875
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: and it's probably going to be very different than the

876
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: way we use social media today. What was the was

877
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: the slogan in the sixties to tune in, turnout? What

878
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: is it? Tune in? Wow? Now I'm forgetting what? Yeah? Right,

879
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: like the LSD culture. Um, someone's gonna tell us, come

880
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: on someone on Facebook. Man. We brought up Frank Zappa

881
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: on the last show, and now we're talking about Well,

882
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: I bring it up because I feel like tune in

883
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: drop out there you go to. I feel like it's

884
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: a new version of that. They're so able to tune

885
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: into everything that now they've dropped out of paying attention

886
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: to anything interesting. Fact. You know who guarded Timothy Leary's

887
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: LSD Web, Michael Savage as in like the conservative radio host. Yeah,

888
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: look you look it up. Really yeah, he he lived

889
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: like a wildlife in California. You know, has has a

890
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: also has a doctorate in botany and an alternative medicine.

891
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: And then he became like as in physical security for Yeah,

892
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: he did some type of security work there at the

893
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: LSD Web. You go, you could look it up, because

894
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: I've looked at that might explain any this. You know,

895
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: very right wing radio host, but unlike most of them,

896
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: has just a really bizarre background. Well, you know that

897
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: the new counterculture is to turn it all off. Yeah, right,

898
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: it's to go native, right, and uh, like I started

899
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: over like you know, maybe like the last six months,

900
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: I've been playing Dungeons and Dragons with my daughter. I

901
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: love you. It's all pencil and paper and everything, and

902
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,959
Speaker 1: you're sitting there playing this. It's it's basically a high

903
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: speed board game. That's really what I'm just worried for

904
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: you that stranger things is going to start. I know

905
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: me too. Um, but I was reading this article about it.

906
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: I think it was in the New Yorker actually, and

907
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: it was saying that D and D is like actually

908
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: getting like really popular and taken off with a lot

909
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: of people because it's like seen as this counterculture thing,

910
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: like turn your cell phone off, throw that in a bag,

911
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: and sit down and actually do this kind of thing

912
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: that's for like, you know, just like old school. I

913
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: mean my kids, My kids play Trivial Pursuit and YACHTSI

914
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: for the break. But hey, every now and again, I'll

915
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: play um scrabble with my parents because they live one

916
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: town over. Like, yeah, I agree, it's nice to turn

917
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: all this crap off sometimes as we're on Facebook, Live

918
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: and Twitch and YouTube, as I'm saying talk about but

919
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: just to just to fact check, myself here. I mean,

920
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: this is Wikipedia. You can look it up further. Um. Yeah,

921
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: my Savage worked for the famous psychedelic drug advocate Timothy Leary,

922
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: is keeper of the stone Gatehouse of stone on the

923
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: Hitchcock Cattle Company in state in Millbrook, New York, to

924
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: which Leary had been given access to. Leary hired him

925
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: to the post because Savage did not use LSD himself. Right,

926
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: So that's interesting, very out there fact, but just throwing

927
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: it out there. Um, we will take, by the way,

928
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: questions for any of you guys who have any D.

929
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: I Ah, we're getting a ton of questions. I do

930
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: want to throw it absolutely real quick before we take

931
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: one question. I was gonna I was going to mention

932
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: the year of you stuff before you get into question. Well,

933
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna turn into this. I said. I

934
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: was playing the games with my kids. Was going to

935
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: break out some card games, but the only card that

936
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: I had at the time were the recent Greate Club

937
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: with the girls and the guns, which is fine. My

938
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: sons are eight and eleven, and my eight year old

939
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: is inappropriately attached to boobs at this point like he's

940
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: a thing, So I have to Yeah, I was like,

941
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if I knew too. So I every

942
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: time I get a great my husband takes something out

943
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: of it because it comes to the house in Ohio

944
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: before I get it. And I get a text the

945
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: other day with a picture of the cars. He's like,

946
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: these are mine. It's like, yeah, okay, fine, you can

947
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: have him. He stole that in the bottle Breacher out

948
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: of this one. See if you have a question, to

949
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: shoot him over and we'll take them in just a

950
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: little bit. We really do appreciate you guys tuning in

951
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 1: and we do like to be interactive. But yeah, you've

952
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: been doing some gear reviews from a female perspective for

953
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: the load out Room, which I know Scott Whittner's watching

954
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: right now. Um, but yeah, it's I think people are

955
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: interested in seeing that because I know, great club it

956
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: is geared towards men, but there are females like yourself

957
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: who were into and we should mention that to marketing

958
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: is straight geared towards me. We don't. We don't mention

959
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: it enough that. Um. The load out Room is another

960
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: website we run that is all gear and guns. Check

961
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: it out load at room dot com. Yeah, so long

962
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: before I was, you know, I said that in my

963
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: gear review before I was here as part of the

964
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: Softwrep team. I was a great club member. I love

965
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: my stuff because I love gear. Again, Tom always steals

966
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: something out of it every single time. You didn't get this,

967
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 1: and we're just talking about I gave the slide belt

968
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: to my stepfather for Christmas. He loves that. I love

969
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: it too. Although it's um, it's a little bulky for

970
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: the they need a girl version of that one. See,

971
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: this is a smaller buckle. So Scott and I talked

972
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: about there are plenty of women who tune in the

973
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: softwarep radio, who read load up, who do this and

974
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: either they liked the gear or they want to buy

975
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: the gear for the men in their life, the dad,

976
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: their husband, you know, their kids, whatever, and so it's

977
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: nice to get that female perspective. So I just did

978
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: my first gear review of the latest. I think it

979
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 1: was the pro Krate Scott, you can you can write

980
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: in there it was the pro Krate, I think, And um,

981
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: look I'm wearing one of them today, got my nick

982
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: knife on. And what she showed us. For some reason,

983
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: someone was a stalker. No you were, well, I was

984
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: going to mention that someone I guess at the site

985
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: was uptight about you posting that it is sports bra,

986
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: which I thought kind of cool. I did have so

987
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: so that's kind of the interesting thing about the female perspective. So, Jack,

988
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: what a couple of weeks ago you posted a picture

989
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: for us just the team. I loved. Look, I got

990
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: my neck knife. I'm sorry, I love that little guy.

991
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: It's great, right, you know, something like that either around

992
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: the neck or on the belt down here, because you know,

993
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: if you get into a into a fight with somebody,

994
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: and a lot more people have b j J training

995
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: these days than in the past, and the first thing

996
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: they're going to try to do is go for a

997
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: submission hold. And if somebody does think that hold in

998
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: there pretty tied around your neck, that just comes out

999
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: and you start tearing right through that flash you do

1000
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: you have to be willing. That was one of the

1001
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: questions I got on my review is I don't know

1002
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: how comfortable I would feel using a knife. It is

1003
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 1: it's a different mentality than using a gun. You still

1004
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: feel separated if you have what if you read that

1005
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: book on killing he calls killing at the sexual range,

1006
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 1: you're right on top of the person. So wait a minute.

1007
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 1: So I'm pulling out my other at the sexual range

1008
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: toy I got at this sexual range to the hold.

1009
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: This is a family show, Danielle, Is it really? Is

1010
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: it really? Jack? So this was the other thing that

1011
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: one of the other ones I reviewed, and that was

1012
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: our custom made. That thing is bad as yeah. Wait

1013
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: what are we calling it? So I just I call

1014
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: it my pen of death. But it's we Actually, you know,

1015
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: Jim West would love something like this because he's all

1016
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: about the Delta Dart. He loves these things because they're

1017
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: a legal too. I mean they're street legal wherever you go.

1018
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: So it's a real pen. You can unscrew the top

1019
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: and it's a real pen. Right, But then this end

1020
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: is made out of tungsten and you can break that

1021
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: glass with it. You can pierce metal and the Mandalais Hotel,

1022
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: daniel I'll take it easy, all right, all right, come on,

1023
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: I can't see it on can But actually, above Danielle,

1024
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,959
Speaker 1: we have the poster for a hundred Deadly Skills, which

1025
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 1: basically describes what you can do with that pen whacking somebody.

1026
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: If you've seen John Wick, you know how to kill people.

1027
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: I was going to say it reminds me of the

1028
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: scene in Casino. Yes, well that's what I said, Casino

1029
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: or on Wick. Then you know, this can pierce a

1030
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: jugular or somebody's inner thigh pretty and like you hold

1031
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 1: it like this, put it right into their neck. See

1032
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: Jack's practicing. Just don't do it to me. But yeah,

1033
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: so so I'm trying to do some gear reviews from

1034
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: from a female perspective, like going back to let's talk

1035
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: about boobs again. But I mean that's something you guys

1036
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: don't have to think about. It's great to have a knife,

1037
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: but I actually feel like I could use a little support. God, well,

1038
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: you can't put the knife in between the girls because

1039
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: then you can't pull it out under your shirt. And

1040
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: so it's yeah, there were some issues I had to

1041
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: talk about that. Ways to layer the clothes so you

1042
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: could still be deadly makes sense. It does on a

1043
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 1: day like today where you're wearing like a hoodie though

1044
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: and all that that. I was going to say the

1045
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: same thing with the survival belt, like in an outfit

1046
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: like that, I don't you know, when you said it's bulky,

1047
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: it's not really because I've worn and it's you know,

1048
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 1: on with an outfit like that. I think you could

1049
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: rock it if you were out like at a bar

1050
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 1: dressed up. Absolutely not, And I'd be wearing my tactical

1051
00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: five eleven survival belt and Shot shows coming, Danielle, No,

1052
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: not for me, Jack, It's not coming for me. So

1053
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: business business tactical is the dress code out So what

1054
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: are you wearing? Curious? We'll do a little fashion on software. Um,

1055
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: who are you wearing? Cargo cargo pants, gerber knife clipped

1056
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: on in the pocket. I haven't decided if I'm gonna

1057
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: wear Merrels or Solomon Boots. Hey now my Meryl song

1058
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: right now? Probably a collared shirt from from Columbia? Did

1059
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: you borrow that from a marine ball cap? American flag

1060
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: ball cap? Name tape on the on the back. And

1061
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: you're joking though, because you you wear the same thing

1062
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 1: you wear every day, right like? Which is I dressed

1063
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: like a bomb? People at Shot will be in that outfit. Well,

1064
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: some of our audience would would say you dress like

1065
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: a hipster. Apparently, I don't know where the where the

1066
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: hipster thing comes from them. I guess it's because you

1067
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: had the glasses on. Maybe you need Chuck Taylor's you

1068
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 1: know you know where these classes came from, Mother Army.

1069
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, are those there? These were the

1070
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: alternatives to the bcgs when the Army finally decided, Okay,

1071
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: we're going to issue the troops with some non bcgs.

1072
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: So how old is that prescription? Eight years? So can

1073
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: you actually see, Yeah, it's about that. I've been wearing

1074
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: glasses or contacts since i was like twelve years old,

1075
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: so my eyes are kind of like where they're at.

1076
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: You know, they're not going to change that much always.

1077
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: I hope not. As a writer, i'd be really fucked.

1078
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: I remember one year a shot show, I was the

1079
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: only person wearing Jordan's and I was like, this is

1080
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: definitely not how people dressed in New York, but it

1081
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 1: is what it is. I'm gonna wear the same ship

1082
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: that I'm wearing today. I'm wearing a your hoodie. But

1083
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: then then you have to do you also have to

1084
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: ask yourself the question is it does it become a

1085
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 1: thing where it is like the the informal dress code

1086
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: for the show, where like people feel obligated to dress

1087
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: like that to fit the part, or do they really

1088
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: dress like that year round? Terry Shapherd I remember like

1089
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: like being always the rebel was wearing some you know order,

1090
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: it's wearing like a sweater. Yeah, because I think it's

1091
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: cool to also not give a fun personally. But anyway,

1092
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: so getting into the questions that people have, there's a

1093
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: ton of them on YouTube, on twitch, on Facebook. So

1094
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: I'll get to what I can hear um and shoot

1095
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: them out and we'll get to what we can. George

1096
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: Maccaria on YouTube asks how good is North Korean intelligence? Oh, George,

1097
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: they're as good as the Chinese allow them to be,

1098
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: um and not to scart the question. They have an

1099
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: intelligence arm Um. They do have some decent skills. Actually

1100
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: in cyber they're pretty good, believe it or not. But

1101
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: they've again they've gained that skill from help the Chinese

1102
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: and the Russian. Yeah, I mean they're nowhere near as

1103
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: good as as any of the other major countries, but

1104
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: they are so supported by those two major players, and

1105
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: the Iranians for that matter, that they're formidable enough. Back

1106
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: in the old days, they really did send like terror

1107
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: ourselves south, like I'm talking like nineteen sixties, but they

1108
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: stayed on peninsula, Yes, on peninsula, like wipe out villages

1109
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: and ships. So thank god we're not seeing stuff like

1110
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: that anymore. Or do you have any familiarity with these

1111
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: really odd cases where the North Koreans were kidnapping Japanese girls? Yes,

1112
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: I do. What the what the is all I can

1113
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: say about that? It really was just a bringing some

1114
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: hot new chicks across for Dear Leader. Yeah, I mean

1115
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: a lot of it was that there were some ransom

1116
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: cases there. It was ways to make money, there was something.

1117
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: So it wasn't about like training their spies about Japanese culture.

1118
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: It was really just some of that. But there was

1119
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: a side side project which was for Dear Leader. But

1120
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: yes they do, I mean, and you see them try

1121
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: to pose as Japanese quite a bit. Um are a

1122
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: lot of the yakuza ethnically Korean. I'm not sure about that.

1123
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: That would be a question for one of our friends. Yeah,

1124
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: I think I think we've talked about about the Odyssean

1125
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: would know for sure you were you were saying, how

1126
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: you know you're the only female on staff here but

1127
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: not a regular And I believe who wrote an article

1128
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: for US, Cheyenne Martin for US. I think she wrote something.

1129
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. She might have submitted something I

1130
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: could be off on this, but anyway, she's watching as

1131
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: she often does. Do you have any tips on learning

1132
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: a difficult language, especially Chinese? Is it better to dabble

1133
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: in one dialect or to be familiar with several if possible,

1134
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: like Shanghai, Beijing, ETCETERA really good question, Chien. So Chinese

1135
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: dialects are they might as well be different languages altogether.

1136
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: So speaking of Shanghai dialect versus Cantonese versus Mandarin, the

1137
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: written language is the same, but the spoken is completely different.

1138
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: So in that sense, to answer your specific question, be

1139
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: better to just focus on one um, get the written down,

1140
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: and then go to the next one, because you'd be

1141
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: learning two completely different languages at the same time. The

1142
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: intonation is totally different. Mandarin, for example, only has four tones.

1143
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: Cantonese has nine. So Cantonese that's why I was talking

1144
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: about earlier. They use it as encryption because if you

1145
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: we may have translators. FBI may have a Mandarin translator

1146
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: on the phone, but if they don't speak Cantonese, and

1147
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: these guys flip to Cantonese on surveillance, then you're gonna

1148
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: have to wait to play the tapes back later in

1149
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: real time, so you'd have to have several dialects. So

1150
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: we have seen the Chinese do that, like switch to

1151
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: several had a friend in the Philippines telling me about

1152
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: the difference between like the Chinese mentality and just the

1153
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: sort of like layers of culture that we don't even see.

1154
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: And he was telling me, like, you know, one of

1155
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: my Chinese friends, he's a Chinese businessman, was telling him

1156
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: how He's like, you know, you guys, you need like

1157
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: analysts notebook to do like all these link chart analysis

1158
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. He's like, we do that genetically. Yeah,

1159
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: they did. We just see that it's the angle like

1160
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: that whole because they network for it's part of generation. Yeah,

1161
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: it's just part of the DNA. But one other thing

1162
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: to Shin's question as far as a difficult, Chinese is

1163
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: actually one of the easier languages to learn grammatically than

1164
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: some of the romance languages because you don't have to

1165
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: conjugate anything. Now, um, if you have a musical ear,

1166
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: it's much easier because it's a tonal language, so you

1167
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: do have a lot to remember, but you don't conjugate anything.

1168
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: There's no male female like you don't you don't need

1169
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: a word for cup, like, oh, is my cup a

1170
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: male or female in the car, So that makes it

1171
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: much easier. It's very specific. But really find a native

1172
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: and just do immersion training. That's the best way with

1173
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: with those kinds of languages. You just because there's no

1174
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: rhyme or reason, there's too many exceptions to rules and

1175
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: to get the Okay, I'm gonna stop for a minute.

1176
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: Something that pisces me off all the time. The current

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01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: president of China's name is she Jin Ping. It's not

1178
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: it's not g it's not. You will hear commentators in

1179
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: America here someone say she she she she all the

1180
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: time and then they'll turn right around and go gi

1181
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: gen ping, No, it's not. So spend time with somebody

1182
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: who is a native speaker, so that you just learned

1183
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: to pick up the way things are the x I right,

1184
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: she it's she. I mean, it could be she she.

1185
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: I mean there's different, there's the tones, but it's it's she.

1186
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: Like we would say s a g um and yeah

1187
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: it's a but see go back to what we're talking about.

1188
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: You wouldn't see that in Cantonese because that x I

1189
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: and that's that's a very specific Yeah, it's a very

1190
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 1: specific transliteration of the way that Um, even the ways

1191
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: we could find out who was on the intel side,

1192
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: the way things were written, certain transliteration you'd only see

1193
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: in Taiwan, some transliteration you'd only see from the PRC.

1194
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: So false flag operations were easier to find for a while.

1195
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,919
Speaker 1: And they learned, Yeah, learn So my memory did serve

1196
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: me correct. Cheyenne rode An op ed when Elliott Abrahams

1197
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: came to Georgetown, UM and Frewmtarius uploaded it. So and

1198
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: I did read. I knew that she wrote a piece. Um,

1199
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: this is a good this is a good question for you, Jack. Uh.

1200
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: Were there any Tier one operations that happened in the

1201
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,439
Speaker 1: DPRK And how do Green Beret is getting into debt?

1202
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,439
Speaker 1: K Uh? Well, the answer to the first question is no,

1203
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: No one's going across the d m Z. UM. You'll

1204
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: hear stories and rumors and all kinds of bullshit. It's

1205
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: that it's bullshit. There's there's no fucking guys doing halo

1206
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: ops into North Korea. There's no seals coming up on shore,

1207
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: because I mean they would just it just wouldn't work.

1208
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: It's a non permissible environment. It's a denied environment. UM

1209
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: Special Forces Detachment k UM. It's just a question of

1210
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: their green berets. They are assigned a first Special Forces

1211
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: Group and DEBT K is. There are other um O

1212
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: d as both from first group and some of the

1213
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: National Guard DREW who are going into South Korea for

1214
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: exercises and to help out and things like that. But

1215
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: DEBT K is the resident team that stays there. UM

1216
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: to get in there and do a tour there, do

1217
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: two years or whatever, and and some guys fall in

1218
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: love with that job and they come back and they

1219
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: do a second and a third and they just want

1220
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: to stay there. UM. It's just something you'll have to request. UM.

1221
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: I think they're looking for mostly senior E seven's senior

1222
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: n c O s UM to be able to work

1223
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: in a sort of independent environment. And their job is

1224
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: to go in liaison with UM with South Korean Special Forces.

1225
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: And how good there that relationship is is really dependent

1226
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: up to that individual and he. You know, the guys

1227
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: have told me, there's like some dudes, they're not very good.

1228
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: If they're not good at your job, you're gonna be

1229
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: playing cards with the privates in the motor pool. If

1230
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: you're good at your job, you're going to be in

1231
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: the office right next to the general. Um. So it's

1232
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: really all about maintaining those relationships. And the reason why

1233
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: Detachment K exists today, um because the Army has wanted

1234
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: to get rid of it a couple of times. UM

1235
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: is because South Korean Special Forces said, no, we want

1236
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: our green berets here with us. Yeah, so they were

1237
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: they You know that that partnership and that relationship is

1238
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: so critical, and the guys who have come through Debt

1239
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: K year after year after year, they've really built something

1240
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: special there. And I think it um sets a great

1241
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: example for what special forces can accomplish with persistent, long

1242
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: term engagements. And you know, I think that's that's a

1243
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: sort of program that I'd encourage any you know, young

1244
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: special Forces guy to take an interest in. And I

1245
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: think it's an example that we should stand up in

1246
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: other countries, like, for example, in the Philippines. That's a

1247
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: place where we should have a resident team. I just

1248
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you so saying that my screenplay for

1249
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: the Halo ops with Debt K should probably stand down.

1250
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: I mean, if if war pops off, things are going

1251
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: to start moving right. Um, if you read uh Dalton

1252
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: Fear his novel he has a joint Delta Seal Team

1253
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 1: six operation where they go into North Korea, and I

1254
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: mean it's well, it's well written. It's a cool book,

1255
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, which I should say rest in peace? Right? Yeah,

1256
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: he passed away Tom greer Um from cancer way too young. Really,

1257
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 1: he was the Delta Force commander who led the operation

1258
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: going after Ben Lawden right after nine eleven, and then

1259
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: became a fiction writer. And then yeah, you wrote a

1260
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: book about that called Kill Ben Lawden. And then he

1261
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: wrote a whole series of novels that are really really good.

1262
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: Your next book should be about decay we DeCamp. Well,

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Speaker 1: the next book to the memoir, Well, no, I mean

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Speaker 1: his next fiction, the next the next novel. It's it's

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01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: like a third of the way written. It's it's about

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Speaker 1: vigilantes stuff in the United States. All right, I'm ready

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Speaker 1: for that one. So questions George mccarya, what missions are

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Speaker 1: assigned to d I A and which ones go to

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Speaker 1: the c I A. Well, George, I would tell you,

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Speaker 1: but then i'd have where's George. Um. Oh that's a

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01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: tough one. CIA is not authorized to operate inside the

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Speaker 1: United States. Let's just put that out there for now.

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01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: That's what they do with waivers. And I'm not answering

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01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: that deck that's on you. You can say that if

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01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: you want, but but no, so that that's part of it.

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01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: So not to make it too simplified, but d I

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01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: is just that the Defense Intelligence Agency. So wherever there

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01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: is a U. S Military mission, d I A would

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Speaker 1: also have jurisdiction and a mission there. CIA is its

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Speaker 1: own foreign intelligence collection capability, So in other words, they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to operate outside the United States. FBI has jurisdiction

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01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: for anything that happens inside. And you can go down

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01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: that road if you want to talk about well here,

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01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: here's just an interesting thing that people freak out and

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01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: they say, well, to see how it doesn't work in

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Speaker 1: the United States for the United for the CIA to

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Speaker 1: try to recruit a foreign citizen. So let's say a

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01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 1: guy who works for a ministry in Aran or something

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01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: comes to the United States. It is totally illegal for

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Speaker 1: the CIA to try to recruit that. Yes, so in

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01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: that sense that they do blur the lines. But um,

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01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:14,560
Speaker 1: George d A has a counter intelligence and a positive

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01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: collection for an intelligence mission. Both CIA is they have both,

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01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: but their CEI presence is really small. It's really more

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01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: of like an internal internal affairs division if anything else.

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01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 1: So d A does both where c I and FBI

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01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 1: sort of split the the mission on the other two.

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01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 1: If that answers your question or not? Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it does this question. I have no idea what this

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01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: guy is referring to, so hopefully you guys can fill

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01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 1: me in if this if you have any knowledge of it, um,

1302
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: and at least filling the audience, Um Daniel, Daniel Rodriguez,

1303
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: what's Jack and your guest Danielle's thoughts on the Happy

1304
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: Few Symphony ordinance controversy, cheers. I have no idea what

1305
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: that is in reference? Is that a symphony in career something?

1306
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: I have no idea? Yeah, you have to fill us in,

1307
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: Um Daniel, what is that? And should I be the

1308
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: Happy Few Symphony IM coordinate? Well, there's an interesting and

1309
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: I know this because I took a class in East

1310
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: Asian music when I was in college. Their classical music

1311
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: is actually really being maintained as like a symphony level

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01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: by the by Asians and Asian nations, Western classical Western

1313
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 1: classical music. Yeah, but there they may they make a

1314
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: bigger investment in symphonies and orchestras and things like that,

1315
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 1: and they're kind of keeping there. Yeah, they're keeping it alive.

1316
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: I could see that. Well, because we hate ourselves again

1317
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: in the West room. We gotta get rid of that. Yeah,

1318
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: it's if what white men wrote that music done away with.

1319
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: Scott Whittner, you know, gup here and said that the

1320
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: load out room responded to the false ballistic missile ort

1321
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: with a preparedness article. So check that out the load

1322
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: load out room dot com. Uh And he says if

1323
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: this doesn't make the sheep think about that, then we

1324
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: are doomed when something does happen. Um, let's see it says, hey, girl,

1325
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: that was for jack Um Robert, why is watching? I'm

1326
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: considering in Robert, guy Razzie. If I have no idea

1327
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: to pronounce your name, sorry, I'm considering enlisting in the army.

1328
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: Is a thirty five m human collector? Am I saying

1329
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: that correctly? H U M I N t U with

1330
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: a wanting to eventually work for the CIA? Any advice

1331
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,799
Speaker 1: on going from intelligence in the service to the CIA

1332
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: Talk to your friendly neighborhood recruiter. Yeah, it's um equally

1333
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: fucked up. That would be the best. But I mean

1334
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 1: it's far like there's no like, Um, there's there's no

1335
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 1: mysticism about applying for the CIA. I mean you go

1336
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: talk to a recruiter and you know, you go through

1337
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 1: that process. Yeah, they always have different needs at different times.

1338
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 1: It's um not to and I'm not even trying to

1339
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: be They really just do. And the only mysticism is

1340
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: that you don't know if you're on the outside of

1341
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: what that is. So you may be super qualified and

1342
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: they just don't have the right need at the moment

1343
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,560
Speaker 1: for you. So don't h don't get upset. But um,

1344
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 1: I will tell you this. Sometimes they prefer no background

1345
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: though sometimes they like people green so they can teach

1346
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: them the way they want him. I got you, Um,

1347
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 1: But again that goes to whatever their needs are at

1348
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: the time. Language skills are always a plus. Uh, you know,

1349
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 1: keep your keep your profile clean. Um. I'll get one

1350
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 1: more in here because I'm gonna wrap up in a

1351
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 1: little bit because we actually have to do the Power

1352
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: of Thought, which is posted by Brandon webs so we'll

1353
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: be live streaming immediately. Yeah, he came through. If you

1354
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: guys noticed me waving to someone like a while back.

1355
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 1: That was Brandon, So he's probably downstairs getting ready and uh,

1356
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: they're already go live with that in half an hour.

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01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: If if you guys happen it's still be around and

1358
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 1: want to check that out. Um, it's gonna be talking

1359
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: about over com in fear and that type of thing.

1360
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: So uh and if you're listening to the podcast, check

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01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: that on the other channel. Look up The Power of

1362
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: Thought on Apple Podcasts or anywhere you get your podcasts. Um,

1363
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,799
Speaker 1: good question for Jack and we'll make this the last

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01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: one from Awareness with Chris. Can Jack speak to the

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01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: c i F s F companies, The c i F companies,

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: the commanders in Extremist Force, their companies within each special

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01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:32,799
Speaker 1: forces group that are tasked with the counter terrorism mission. Um.

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01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: I've written a little bit about them. There's some stuff

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01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: that I can't really comment on. UM, but you know

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01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: they are a little uh company within each group that

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01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: focuses on direct action and UM, they're prepared to do uh,

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01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 1: you know, counter terrorism missions and they have done them

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01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 1: overseas in Iraq and Afghanistan quite a bit. Um. I'm

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01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: not sure what else to go into really there. Yeah,

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01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 1: that you if you want to, if you want a

1376
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: little bit of additional information. UM, there's an article again

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01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 1: the paywalls down, so you can go read it. It's

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01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: called and people are asking you the paywall down for good? Yes,

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01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: it is the article I believe it's called UM direct

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Speaker 1: Action Training on on Fort Bragg or something of that nature.

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Speaker 1: And it's a whole article about the history of Sephardic,

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Speaker 1: which is the course on Fort Bragg that teaches SF

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01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: guys those direct action skills that the counter Terrorism mission,

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01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 1: and that will give you a little bit you'll read

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01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: that and you'll come to understand I think a little

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01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,959
Speaker 1: bit about what that mission is about. Well, the paywall

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01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: being down is a good transition for this UM. You know,

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Speaker 1: people are asking how can we can support you guys

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01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: if the paywalls down. UM. Luckily there's other revenue streams

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Speaker 1: burned out on the show itself. But it's worth going

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Speaker 1: to at least for me, because I see so many

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Speaker 1: soyone run some collection off. It's incredibly well you're well,

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Speaker 1: you're not the only one doing that that. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: saw that. Um so I mean, it's good to see

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Speaker 1: a lot of old friends, and you know that's what

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Speaker 1: really makes it worth going back there for well, you

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Speaker 1: know it's worth it. For me, I've already made plans.

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Speaker 1: Did you kiss Mini Golf? With the audition? So that's

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Speaker 1: pretty damn cool, really, yeah, Simmons Paul Stanley, Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: the audition and I are shameless like eighties hair metal enthusiasts,

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Speaker 1: so we're like, did a kiss Minnie? My sister was

1443
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: a member of the Kiss Army, so I grew up

1444
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: listening to that. Can you really be a member of

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01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: the Kissed Army? Though? Yes? You got Well, have you

1446
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 1: guys ever seen that article? It wasn't the Onion. It

1447
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 1: was like an Onion like site, and it was it

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Speaker 1: was Gene Simmons accepts transgender memories to the Kiss Army.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't really funny. I'm pretty sure they were already

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Speaker 1: a huge part of the kids For me, I'll find

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01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: out such a funny article and if you guys want

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01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: to see it, um, I expect pictures. Just blackout the

1453
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: Odyssean's face, like or get him to wear some kiss makeup.

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01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: We won't know this. Uh, this might have been a

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01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 1: different one because this one. No, this is yeah. Gene

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Speaker 1: Simmons signs ban on transgender soldiers serving in the Kiss Army.

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Speaker 1: And then it's got a picture with the here like

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Speaker 1: it's a real you know signature, and I love the quoture.

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Speaker 1: Will cow not long ago. Yeah, dude, I'd love to

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Speaker 1: have him on the Power I thought, Actually, um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he says our army must be focused on rocking and

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Speaker 1: rolling all night and partying every day. Simmons said, we

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Speaker 1: can no longer be burdened by the tremendous costs who

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Speaker 1: trains gender members the kids Army. Our makeup budget is

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Speaker 1: through the roof as it is. It's so funny. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's on the Hard Times dot net. I'm not

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Speaker 1: really familiar, but I just thought that was a hilarious headline. Um, alright,

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Speaker 1: anything else before we get out of here. I think

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Speaker 1: I'm hosting Q and A this Sunday's Team Remembers only

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Speaker 1: for team remembers, So if you have gear that you

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Speaker 1: want to have reviewed from a girl's perspective, let me know.

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Speaker 1: So it's crazy to think we will not be doing

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Speaker 1: a live show on Tuesday, because we'll be a shot.

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Speaker 1: So I'm purposely coming back from Shot on Tuesday so

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Speaker 1: that I can get an episode up. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have like a recap Shot show. That's why I'm only

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Speaker 1: going for three days. Because there's no episode up. Brandon

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Speaker 1: Webb will be like, what is going on here? So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put up a recap of Shot show, get

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Speaker 1: some interviews with all the guys who are going to

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Speaker 1: be in the house, guys who are gonna be there,

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Speaker 1: people at the team room party, and then Thursday, I'm

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Speaker 1: excited for Cody Wilson, who's, you know, real innovator in

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Speaker 1: the three D printing industry. That's gonna be interesting talking

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Speaker 1: about three D printing guns. Does any like a self

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Speaker 1: described anarcho capitalist or I don't want what I want.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put words in the gentleman's mouth,

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Speaker 1: but I suspect there's something like that going on. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to him that I described himself as that. So

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Speaker 1: I think I've decided I'm gonna go out to Shot

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Speaker 1: on my own and run surveillance on these guys and

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Speaker 1: see if they know. Well, it's like that video that

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Speaker 1: that James made of me last year when I was

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Speaker 1: drunk off my ass. That video is pretty funny, walking,

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Speaker 1: be bopping. You're having a good time. I had a

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Speaker 1: great time, not another good time. You guys both have fun.

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Speaker 1: I want pictures from Kiss Golf. Oh yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: we'll say it's yet. It's like glowing the dark Kiss

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Speaker 1: Mini Golf. I was looking it up on Yelp. I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited for my mandate with the Odissean. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys to do some beer docking. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's uh at at Software Radio on Twitter and Instagram. Um,

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Speaker 1: and if you're not doing anything in the next the

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Speaker 1: body here, the body here just sticks together like velcrow.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. If you're if you're yeah, not doing

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Speaker 1: anything in the next fifteen or so minutes and you're

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Speaker 1: watching the live stream check out the Power of Thought,

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Speaker 1: which will be on Brandon's page and on the softwarep

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Speaker 1: tv YouTube on Twitch, on all that stuff. Make sure

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Speaker 1: you guys come over to the Facebook author page and

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, I didn't plug all that, shut me up.

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Speaker 1: I will throw out there. You could follow Danielle on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: It's at c d b z a author. I'll spell

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Speaker 1: that out. C D b I z I E R

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Speaker 1: author French name, and I see you also have a

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Speaker 1: new Twitter so at Daisy Bees because I saw you

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Speaker 1: plugged it on on soft rep author page. So Twitter,

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Speaker 1: you have Twitter, you just start Twitter. No, I just

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Speaker 1: haven't really used it. We'll start using it. It's at

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Speaker 1: Daisy b e Z so at days Bees plug. I'm

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Speaker 1: saying plug, follow Danielle and they can find that on

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Speaker 1: the Facebook page. But you know, and on soft rep

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Speaker 1: on on Instagram, all that gets out there. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: the cool ones are the where my feet are, which

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Speaker 1: I need to do my act graveling to yeah, traveling tones.

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Speaker 1: I've just been too many blazes with nobody to take

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Speaker 1: pictures of me, and I don't want to do the selfies,

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Speaker 1: so I just started doing a feat. Works so cool. Alright,

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Speaker 1: Sorry harassing you on the Twitter. Flom all right, troll

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Speaker 1: Twitter so much? Can you? All right? All right, We'll

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Speaker 1: see you guys. Murder. You've been listening to self Rep Radio.

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Speaker 1: New episodes up every Wednesday and Friday for all of

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Speaker 1: the great content from our veteran journalists. Join us and

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Speaker 1: become a team room member today at self rep dot com.

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Speaker 1: Follow the show on Instagram and Twitter at self rep

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Speaker 1: Radio and be sure to also check out the Power

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Speaker 1: of False podcast hosted by Hurricane Group CEO and Navy

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Speaker 1: Seal Sniper instructor Brandon Webb, M