1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike a k A. Mike D. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: And if you are a fan of the Batman or 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: really just superhero movies in general, I think you're really 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: gonna like this week's episode. Have a couple of interviews 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: coming up with the cast and the production designer on 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: the movie, so a lot of fun behind the scenes 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: inside on how that movie was made. In the movie review, 9 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about Senior Year, which just came out on 10 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Netflix starring Rebel Wilson. And in the Trailer Park we 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: finally got the first look at the Avatar sequel and 12 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more interested in this movie now. 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: So so many things to cover on this episode. I'm 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: glad that you're here. And if you're listening on Monday Special, 15 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: shout out to the Monday Morning Movie crew. You already 16 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: know what it is. Let's talk movies. In a world 17 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: where everyone and their mother has a podcast, one man 18 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: stands to infiltrate the ears of listeners like never before 19 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: in a movie podcast, a man with so much movie 20 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 1: knowledge piece basically like a walking AUDIMTV which Glide from 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: the Nashville Podcast Network movie, The Batman is in the 22 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: running to be my favorite movie of two. I love 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: the movie theater experience of this movie. Even rewatching it 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: back on HBO, Max I was surprised that I liked 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: it even more. So if you haven't done that yet, 26 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: I highly encourage it. And today I'm getting to talk 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: to some of the people who start in the movie 28 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: and also worked on the movie. But even if you 29 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: haven't seen the movie, I still think you'll enjoy these 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: conversations because it's a lot of cold, behind the scene 31 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: things that we don't always get to learn about. So 32 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: first up is my conversation with James Chinland. He is 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: the production designer of The Batman. He has been building 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: world in movies and TV shows for the last twenty 35 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: five years. Some of his credits include Requiem for a Dream, 36 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: which came out back in two thousand, The Avengers, The 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: Lion King, and most recently The Batman. And on this movie, 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: he was responsible for the look of the Batmobile. He 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: also worked on all of the set design and he 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: used this really cool technology to create the world of 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: Gotham to be something that the actors could actually interact with, 42 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: so they weren't just looking at a green screen the 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: whole time. We'll talk about all that. I also, of 44 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: course have to ask him about the Avengers. So here 45 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: we go, let's talk to James. How are you. I'm good, Mike, 46 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: how are you. I'm doing great. It's so awesome you 47 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: get to talk to you. I've you know, talked to 48 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: a lot of directors and actors on my podcast, but 49 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: it's the first time I've talked to a production designer, 50 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: and this is kind of the stuff that really excites me, 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: the behind the scenes of how you create a world, 52 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: especially with the movie like The Batman. So really excited 53 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: to get to talk to you. Me too, thanks Man. 54 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: So I obviously want to get into the creation of 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: the Batmobile and the feeling of Gotham. But when you 56 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: meet somebody for the first time, how do you describe 57 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: what you do? The quick one is, we're responsible for 58 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: everything you see in the film other than people and um, 59 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: what they're wearing, you know, I think you know. We're 60 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: responsible for um, the set, the location, UM, the props, 61 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: the vehicles, the all of the feelings, basically all the space, 62 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: the geography of the film, and that also entails like 63 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: a ton of um logistical stuff like working with the 64 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: cinematographer figuring out, you know, is there room for the camera, 65 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: how would this shot work? So it really the thing 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: I love most about my job is it touches all 67 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: departments that basically we're sort of like the the u 68 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: n for the film. We have to go around and 69 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: talk to each department and make sure their needs are 70 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: being met and simultaneously also deliver like a cohesive piece 71 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: of design for the movie. Um that is, you know, 72 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: in step and hopefully amplifying the narrative ambitions of the 73 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: the director. So starting with the Batmobile and the design 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: and the look of it, does it start with like 75 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: a sketch from Matt Reeves? Do you go back and 76 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: research like all the badmobiles that have been featured in 77 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: other movies, Like where did the content begin? Well? I 78 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: think in in our case, I think we were all 79 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: led by Matt's take on Bruce and the fact that 80 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: Bruce was a um, sort of a do it yourself 81 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: sort of guy who had like turned his back on 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: way in industries and sort of doing it all with 83 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: his own hands. So I think we knew that the 84 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 1: car needed to be something that you felt his hand 85 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: on and and hopefully as an audience member, you looked 86 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: at him said, you know, if I had the right 87 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: skill set, I could probably build that car in my garage. 88 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: That was sort of like what we were hoping for. 89 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: So the idea that maybe he would use pieces of 90 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: other cars and sort of kit bash them together, you know, 91 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: sort of just taking what he needed and and assembling it. 92 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: So we really wanted you to see the way it 93 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: was built, make sure that was a part of it. 94 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: And in terms of the access to that design, I 95 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: think you know, we were literally looking at fragments of 96 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: cars and different pieces and details that we that we liked, 97 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: and we sort of we knew the mission and what 98 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: we wanted it to do. And then we leaned into 99 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: some amazing illustrators UM into and and got their help 100 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: as we sort of started to hone it together into 101 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: into a cohesive hole. And the batmobile we see in 102 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: the movie is it a fully functional vehicle. That's what 103 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: we're most proud of. I mean we built four, the 104 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: team I should say, built four Batmobiles, one fully electric 105 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: um and then three combustion engine cars. And they perform 106 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: like crazy. I mean, all those stunts you see you're 107 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: actually seeing that car do it, you know, um and 108 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: um we're just no other batmobile in history has performed 109 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: the way our car did, you know. And the stunt 110 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: guys were so excited to get their hands on it, 111 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, put it through its paces, and I think 112 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: it really shows in the chain. It's one of the 113 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: most visceral car chases I've ever experienced. And uh yeah, 114 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean Dom Tuey, the special effects um coordinator and 115 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: his team just did an amazing job, um, you know, 116 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: bringing that kind of raw, visceral physicality to it. I 117 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: think that's one of the most pivotal parts of the 118 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: entire movie, that chase and got me the most high 119 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: whaile watching the movie and knowing that now that actually 120 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: happened and actually went down, just add so much more 121 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: to it. And I think a lot of that it's 122 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: from Robert Pattinson's performance. How much did he actually get 123 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: to drive the Batmobile before and how much did he 124 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: actually do during the filming of the movie. I mean, 125 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: he's in the car a lot, whether he's actually controlling 126 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: it or not. There was a there was a m 127 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: the guy's built a what's called a pod car, so 128 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: Rob's at the wheel, and then there's a stunt driver 129 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: like in a in a pod on the top on 130 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: the roof who's actually doing it. But you know, in 131 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: a way, I think that even speaks more to Rob's 132 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: bravery and intensity. Tobuy actually like driving in this car 133 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: while someone else is actually putting you through all that stuff. 134 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: So um, but he drove it a bit and um, 135 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: he certainly put it through his paces himself. So and 136 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: I think all of those things come through. I think 137 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: you feel that in the film. You feel the sort 138 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: of sweat and and um, burning rubber and rain and 139 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: all those things. I think it really comes through in 140 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: the final product. Did you get your driving at all? 141 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: I did? I did dream come true? That's amazing. Yeah, 142 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: I know, I know. I was so excited. So the 143 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: other thing about this movie that really just kind of 144 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: grabbed me is that I feel like it's the best 145 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: iteration of all the characters. But the character that I 146 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: feel sometimes people don't really talk about is the city 147 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: of Gotham itself. It has a present in this movie 148 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: that feels like like it did its own driving force. 149 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of that is due to 150 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: the technology. You guys, use. I believe it's the led 151 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: volume screens. Yes, Like, how how did that tech work 152 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: to help the actors feel like they were more like 153 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: involved in the scene and in that environment aside from 154 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: just being behind like a green screen or a blue screen. 155 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: It's fairly obvious, like, um, the difference between you know, um, 156 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: staring at a piece of fabric and then looking out 157 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: into a you know, a city that's fully realized for 158 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: you with like wind blowing and helicopters flying by and traffic. 159 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: It was so exciting to be able to. Um. You know, 160 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: often as a designer will design something and then hope 161 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: that it comes together and post and we're at the 162 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: premiere and we sort of see it all come together. 163 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: But this was, you know the first time in my 164 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: career where I had actually been able to design something 165 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: and see it fully realized on camera during the shoot. 166 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: And um, Yeah, it was just so so exciting to 167 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: be able to bring all that together. Greg was obviously, 168 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: you know, really leaning in to the tools and making 169 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: sure that you know, the scene we shot sunset and 170 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: dusk and dawn, you know, taking advantage of those low 171 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: light opportunities, and I think the actors really felt it 172 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, and I think it really came through in 173 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: their performance. You also worked on The Avengers, which you've 174 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: worked in DC and Marvel, and I believe you grew 175 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: up in New York City. I did, so getting to 176 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: design something like the Stark Tower, having growing up there 177 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: and you know, knowing exactly like what the city layout is. 178 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: How was that process of like, Okay, I'm gonna create 179 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: something that's not actually here, but make it feel like 180 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: it is in New York City. It's just like I 181 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: pinched myself at the dream dream come true of it all, 182 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, Stark Tower. For me as a kid, I'd 183 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: always looked at the Panama Building, and Um, I feel 184 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: like what we did, whether we actually realized it or not, 185 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: is going to live forever in the history of New 186 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: York as a piece of architecture that will always be 187 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: at least a footnote to that building's history that people 188 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: will say, and it was used in Avengers and in 189 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: this way, and so I think, you know, I mean, 190 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: we're building architecture and worlds that live forever in people's imaginations, 191 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: you know. And so I think in the same token, 192 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: like going into Gotham and figuring out you know, like 193 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: I have this opportunity to carve out sort of a 194 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: new space for the fans of Batman to dream and 195 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: and and um. You know, it's as a designer, it's 196 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: it's the greatest gift to be able to touch people 197 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: in that way. And what is the next project you're 198 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: working on? I don't know. I'm just working on getting 199 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: through these interviews today. Um. Yeah, I don't know what's 200 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: coming next. Are you always just like designing and making 201 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: notes in your head of Like you go out in 202 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: public and maybe you see like a landscape or you 203 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: see like a skyline that speaks to you. Do you 204 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: always just keep like record of all those things? Take pictures? Yeah, 205 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: I mean I think that's that's that's um. That's a 206 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: designer's greatest resource, is you know, just um, the more 207 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: you design, the more you are able to see in 208 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: the world and details that you notice that maybe other 209 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: people might cruise through. I think, you know, we tried 210 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: to bring all that to the development of Gotham. You know, 211 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: I think there's so much, so many things you don't 212 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: see that are hidden in the shadows. But the team, 213 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, the level of detail that we brought to 214 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: those sets. Every Square into the back lot and Riddler's apartment. 215 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: You know, I mean they we went so deep. Any 216 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: book you opened, you know, it was fully relevant to 217 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: his past. So I think, yeah, we try. As a designer, 218 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: you try and just you know, catalog the world and 219 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: and bring those feelings back to the film. It's a 220 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: great talking to you. James really appreciate it too, Thanks Mike, 221 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. Up next, we'll talk to you Charlie and 222 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: Max Carver, who are twin brothers and they play these 223 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: two guards at the Iceberg Lounge. And here's just a 224 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: little bit of their scene and interaction with Robert Pattinson 225 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: as the Batman. Yeah, I want to see the penguin. 226 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. POW's problem as 227 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: he wants to see the penguin. Penguin, Penguin, That's what 228 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: I tried to tell him. Get out of your freak, Dammy, 229 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: that little suit is gonna get all full of blood. 230 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: So I want to know what it's like to take 231 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: a beating from Robert Pattinson, what kind of work goes 232 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: into that. So here we go. Let's talk to Charlie 233 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: and Max carb How are you guys, How are you 234 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: great to talk to you guys today. I am such 235 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: a huge fan of your work and The Batman. I 236 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: think the movie is a masterpiece, and you guys play 237 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: the guards at the Iceberg Lounge, and I found that 238 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: your characters are the only ones really I get to 239 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: see Robert Pattinson as both the Batman and also as 240 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: Bruce Wayne. So what is this How is this energy 241 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: different when you see him in those two different roles. 242 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: It's It's funny. I remember reading the script and and 243 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: thinking of the traditional Bruce Wayne as I was reading it, 244 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: like this billionaire playboy out there doing all this stuff. 245 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: And I remember on the day when we're shooting the 246 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: moment where where Bruce comes up to the club, mapp 247 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: being like, no, he's no one's seen him. He's a recluse, 248 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: and and just being like what. It was such a 249 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:28,239 Speaker 1: different interpretation, and I quite frankly I loved it of 250 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: of this wounded kid who's who's got so much trauma 251 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: um trying to find a way to to maybe overcome 252 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: that and not look at it. And what I thought 253 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: it was so special about this film is even when 254 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: when rob was had transformed into the Batman and his vengeance. 255 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: You can see in his eyes and every single scene 256 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: he's still carrying that pain from his childhood. And it's 257 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: what it's what makes this movie sing to me is 258 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: that there's a vulnerability to Batman that I don't remember 259 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: seeing an and and the contrast between the two energetically, 260 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: it's absolutely captured on film. But when when we'll start 261 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: with Bruce, when when Rob walks up and he's Bruce Wayne, 262 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,119 Speaker 1: you know, it was this different kind of reclusive withdrawn 263 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: thing that was so interesting to respond to. And then 264 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: when when he came to the door as the Batman, 265 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: I mean we'd rehearsed stuff with the stunt team for 266 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: for weeks, you know, kind of preparing for some of 267 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: these bigger action sequences, and Rob was precise but so 268 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: ferocious compared to what we do. Even to be rehearsing 269 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: it was, I mean, you see it, he's just this 270 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, kind of piston or what have you. Um 271 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: it was. It's it's really nice to see the final 272 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: product and to get to see that contrast on camera 273 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: because shooting it you definitely felt it. So what is 274 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: that rehearsal like Because in the movie, you both take 275 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: a punch to the face, Like, how does that end 276 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: up looking believable? Well, we we actually got punched in 277 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: the face, actually got played. I was gonna say that 278 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: would be amazing because it looks so real. Yeah. Yeah, 279 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: it's all about the snap. Quite frankly, you gotta sell it. 280 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: It's a snap and the sound and really not just 281 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: working on that rehearsal of those specific moves because they 282 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: might change on the day, but working with the stunt 283 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: team for weeks to do martial arts, to get those 284 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: movements right, to be ready to kind of do anything 285 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: because you might change your mind on the day about 286 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: what you want to shoot or how you want it 287 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: to read, and to just get this really enough confidence 288 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: to have a sense of connection while it's happening, because 289 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: it might be it'll change, you know. One take might 290 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: be like bah bah bah, another one might be really quick, 291 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: and it's just about being with what's in front of 292 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: you and having enough experience on your belt hopefully to 293 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: to just work with it um because it's it's kind 294 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: of almost like a really violent dance. But if Matt 295 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: Reeves came to you both and said I'm gonna need 296 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: you to take a punch to the face, for the 297 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: scene to make it look totally believable. What do you 298 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: always said? Yes, absolutely, so he's been analynced as coming 299 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: back for the sequel, Robert Pattinson's coming back. Will your 300 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: characters be returning? Oh? I wish I could answer that question, 301 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: but I'm under legal obligations to say nothing on the topic. 302 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: Could you say anything whenever you found out you got 303 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: the role, like, just to each other? Was at it 304 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: pretty much just to each other. Certainly not to our 305 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: mom because he loves to keep a secret, and no 306 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: she doesn't. Certainly would have gotten out. Um. Yeah, we 307 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: kept it to ourselves at a certain point. We were 308 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: in London for so long that we kind of had 309 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: to acknowledge that we were filming something. But it was 310 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: fun to keep secret, uh, and then really fun to 311 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: have it be out in theaters and have you know, 312 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: lots of old friends be like, oh my god, well, 313 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate the time and hopefully see you in the 314 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: next one. All right, thank you. So I always have 315 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: to ask what you're working on next, not that I 316 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: expect them to actually tell me, like, oh, well, I'm 317 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: working on the Batman too right now. And this is 318 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: the process we're in. I know they can't say that stuff, 319 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: but if I had to speculate from the interns they 320 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: gave in response to that, much like Matt Reeves is 321 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: back on as director, much like Robert Pattinson is coming back, 322 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: and how these movies have to be so secretive of 323 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: not letting anybody know what they're working on. I would 324 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: just speculate that not only are they coming back, but 325 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: they're already starting some pre production on this, or at 326 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: least getting the juices flowing, because even seeing interviews after 327 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: was Robert Pattinson like he knew he had that role 328 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: back when he was filming Tenant. And if they're already 329 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: making announcements about the director and the cast, I feel 330 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: like that's already in the works, but they just can't 331 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: say anything. So totally respect that, but hoping they do return, 332 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: because I would love to talk to him again, and 333 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: I would really just like to become friends with James 334 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: so that maybe someday I could also live out my 335 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: dream of driving the Batmobile. I'm gonna get into a 336 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: movie review now. Let's talk about Senior Year, which is 337 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: available on Netflix, and my wife Kelsey is joining me 338 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: for this review. How are you. I feel like this 339 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: was a little bit more of your style of movie, 340 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: would you agree? Yes. I watched the trailer like a 341 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: month ago and I was like, we've got to watch 342 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: so I don't even need to play the trailer here. 343 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: But it's about Rebel Wilson's character, who she is seventeen 344 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: years old at the beginning of the movie. Her life 345 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: in high school isn't going the way she wants, so 346 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: she sets out to become the most popular girl in school, 347 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: becomes the captain of the cheerleader team, gets the boyfriend 348 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: of her dreams, and thinks everything's gonna be great. And 349 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: then they're having like a pep rally, right, and they 350 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: throw her up in the air. She hits the ground 351 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: and wakes up twenty years later at thirty seven years old, 352 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: and then she tries to go back to high school 353 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: to achieve that dream of becoming prom queen. I thought 354 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: the premise was pretty good. I mean, it was nothing original. 355 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of like seventeen Again with Matthew Perry sat Affron. 356 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: But I think anything Rebel Wilson does is pretty funny, 357 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: and it was funny to see the actress who played 358 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: her younger version of herself kind of like emulate her. Yeah, 359 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: Like at the beginning we were even like, wow, like 360 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: the younger her feels like she's trying to be like rebel. 361 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: Wills picked up on her mannerisms and just the way 362 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: she kind of just the comedic style in general also 363 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: kind of reminded me of like the Adam Project with 364 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: the kid who plays a younger Ryan Reynolds also kind 365 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: of acted and talked like him. But did you think 366 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: it was funny? It wasn't not funny. That's how I 367 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: feel about it. It It wasn't hilarious, and I thought it 368 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: was gonna be around here because it's rated. Are are? Yeah, 369 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: I guess it's more for the language. Early on, I 370 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: felt like it was kind of the same joke over 371 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: and over about like all the two thousands references and 372 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: her not getting you know, everything going on now. So 373 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't like laugh out loud funny, but it was 374 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: pretty entertaining and it's kind of like a throwback to 375 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: a two thousands movie. But like you said, nothing super original. Yeah, 376 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 1: it kind of felt like in the genre of like 377 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: she's all that, Like it tried to be like an 378 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: early two thousand's common kind of I think. The thing 379 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: it did make me think about if you were to 380 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: go back to high school your senior year, what kind 381 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: of student were you? Because she was head of the 382 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: cheerleading team. She was like that most popular girl. If 383 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: you went back to high school as an adult, what 384 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: role would you be going back into extreme nerd? Yeah, 385 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: I was the president of the math club my senior year. 386 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: How does one become president of the math club? I 387 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: think I was the only one that ran looked great 388 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: on my resume. You would compete, now, we would. We 389 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: would take these like once a month like test after school, 390 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: but anything that you got right was like extra credit 391 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: towards your like actual math class. And I was in 392 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: calculus a year, so I was like, great, give me 393 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: any extra credit please. I have this reoccurring dream that 394 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: I'm always back in high school. I think I probably 395 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: have it like once every couple of months, and I 396 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: always go back. It's always the same dream of me 397 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: being there and never graduating and being credit short, so 398 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: I go back as an adult unchbox. Basically, I always 399 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: had this this thing going on. I don't know what 400 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: it means, but for me, I didn't look I never 401 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: got bullied in high school. I just didn't have any 402 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: friends in high school. I didn't have great friends until 403 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: second semester of my senior year, and one of them 404 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: i'm like still friends with to this day. Because one 405 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: of my best friends from freshman year moved our sophomore year. 406 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: And then I had another really good friend, but she 407 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: ran across country and I was always busy, so I 408 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: don't really have like a ton of friends. I was 409 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: pretty much a loser sam like not like a loser. 410 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: Like I had friends. I wasn't like the nerdy cool. 411 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: I feel like like I was a cool nerd. Maybe 412 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: I guess I was kind of a I don't think 413 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: I was a cool nerd though, I just had no friends. 414 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: I didn't talk, so no one talked to me. I 415 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: don't feel like anybody, at least in high school didn't 416 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: like me. They just I felt like I didn't exist. 417 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: And even the sole quote unquote friends I did have, 418 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: like I was in a in a band when I 419 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: was in high school with other you of seniors, and 420 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: even then they wouldn't really hang out with me, like 421 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: at school, like I ate lunch a lot, and I 422 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: think it was more early on in school where I 423 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: got bullied, and then I think I just kind of 424 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: recessed into like this, don't talk to anybody, don't mess 425 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: with anybody, because I didn't want to get bullied again. 426 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: But if I went back to high school, I guess 427 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: I would just be basically what I am now. Also 428 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: in this movie, it's kind of that contrast, which kind 429 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: of reminded me of twenty one Jump Street when they 430 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: go back to high school and they're like, oh, everything's 431 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: changed now, like high school students are nice and they 432 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: got rid of the prom queen prom king, so they 433 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: have to reinstate it did you even go to You 434 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: went to prom? Right? Is it? Would you have regretted it? 435 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: Looking back if you didn't go, I think I would 436 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: have regretted not spending that night with my friends. But 437 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: our problem is nothing special. I don't regret not going. 438 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you missed anything. It didn't 439 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: seem fun to me, like I didn't want to go 440 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: hang out and not dance with anybody and kind of 441 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: being in the corner of the whole time. I don't 442 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: regret it at all. So would you recommend this movie 443 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: if somebody is into looking for a nice comedy. Overall, 444 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: I would recommend this movie if you just kind of 445 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: want something lighthearted. You don't really have to pay attention 446 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: in two. You're just wanting to turn the TV on 447 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: and sit down and probably scroll your phone. And the 448 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: soundtrack is good. It's well, it's all two thousand songs, 449 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: that's right. That I felt like that was the most 450 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: the thing I enjoyed the most of because I remember 451 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: they played saleav by Bewitch and I started bopping along 452 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: to that. The nerd and me did find the inconsistencies though, 453 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 1: because if she was in a coma in two thousand 454 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: and two, a lot of those songs they played that 455 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: you reference were like two thousand three is two thousand 456 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: four if you're being specific here. That that was my 457 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: great tea on the movie. But I thought it was entertaining. 458 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be funnier. But I did 459 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: like the kind of nostalgia aspect of looking back at 460 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: the two thousand's that way, I just feel like the 461 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: movie I want to see is not like, here's all 462 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: these references that you remember. I just want like a 463 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: two thousands movie to be made in two kind of 464 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: like Turning Red, was it was just in the two thousand's. 465 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: It wasn't referencing everything. It was just kind of like 466 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: people living in that time. I think it's time for 467 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: that now. I kind of have more of a grasp 468 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: of what like pop culture was then fashion. I think 469 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: we all kind of look back at those songs and 470 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: can kind of put a place to where we were. 471 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: And also it brings us back to a good time. 472 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: So I think that's why some people would watch and 473 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: enjoy this movie. I mean, the fashion from the early 474 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: two thousands of six sixthical and it's coming back, so 475 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: we're just we're kind of reliving in early two thousands, 476 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: were at that marketing then if it's back together are back. 477 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of two thousand two again. I mean, yeah, 478 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: EMO is as popular now. I feel like that it 479 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: was back then, which was weird going back to talking 480 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: about high school, it wasn't really cool to be in 481 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: the EMO. This is Mike's therapy session. Yes, I think 482 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: that's what I got made fun of the most, was 483 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: like wearing all black and people making fun of the 484 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: music I listened to. You did also have a chain 485 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: wallet from Hot Topic? Yes, okay, my embracelets and studded belts. 486 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say I would have made fun 487 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: of you, but I can kind of see. But now 488 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: I feel like all that stuff is cool again, and 489 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: it's cool to be proud of liking that type of music. 490 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: Back then I didn't feel that. And also a lot 491 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: of those bands that people talk about now is being 492 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: like their favorites, like my Chemical Romance and Paramore. It's 493 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: just cool to like those bands now. It wasn't back then. 494 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: You got made fun of her liking that kind of music. 495 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: Can I tell the story about Paramore not being one 496 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: of your favorite band? Yeah? I have a here where 497 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: we do this podcast. I have a sign poster a 498 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: Paramore and they got announced for the A c L 499 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: lineup and the band I was most excited about was 500 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: not them? What Phoenix? And I came in your office 501 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm surprised you weren't more excited 502 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: for Paramore and you can go, well, I mean, Paramore 503 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: is not really one of my favorite bands. And I 504 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: just turned around. But let me tell you what else 505 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: he has on this wall. So it's a sign Simpson's script, 506 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: a signed Childish campaign, a letter, a signed Green Day drumhead, Drumhead, 507 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: and then Paramore, so all of your other favorite things, 508 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: so one would assume. And then also on that while 509 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: you have a flag like from one of your Lauren's 510 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: arms favorite bands, so one would assume that's like the 511 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: wall of favorites, although I'm not on there, so maybe 512 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have assumed you're on the desk though, But 513 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: I pointed to it and I was like, then, what's 514 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: the signed poster for the story behind I do like Paramore, 515 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm not super into all their albums. I'm kind of 516 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: a poser family because I only like basically their singles 517 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: in their hits. I don't think I could go to 518 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: a Paramore concert and enjoy the entire thing. But I 519 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: got that poster because they were in the radio station. 520 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: They did an interview on the pop station. I tried 521 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: to get a picture with them and they were like, 522 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: now they're in and out. I couldn't do it, but 523 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: here's a sign poster. So I also at one point 524 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: debated whether I even kept that thing or not, and 525 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of cool put it up on 526 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: the wall. That is the origin on that poster. I 527 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: do realed this podcast. Sorry, it's all good. If Yeah, 528 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: if you're looking for something an easy watch with some popcorn, 529 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: little nostalgia worth it. Otherwise you could probably skip it. 530 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: But if you had to give it a rating, what 531 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: would you give three point two five out of five calculators, 532 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: I'd probably go three out of five Juicy gutur sweat 533 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 1: pants combo is what it was called, sweatsuits like juicy 534 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 1: across the butt. Yes, I would give it that, And 535 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: that is what we think about Senior Year. Now it's 536 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: time for the part of the podcast where I break 537 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: down a movie trailer of a film coming to you 538 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: very soon in theaters or streaming, in a segment we 539 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: call It's time to head down to movie. Mike and 540 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: I talked about it a couple of weeks ago when 541 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: it was revealed at cinemacom the first look at the 542 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: new Avatar movie, and I haven't been that excited about it. 543 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: I did rewatch Avatar in preparation for this. I don't 544 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: know what I'm getting prepared for this movie, but I 545 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: felt the need to and it was just sitting there 546 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: on Disney Plus, so I decided to watch it. And 547 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: I gotta say, now I'm a little bit more excited 548 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: for this movie. But before I get into all that, 549 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: here's just a little bit at the look of the 550 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: new Avatar trailer, which is called The Way of the Water, 551 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: and it's coming out on December sixte I don't know 552 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: one thing. Wherever we go, this family, it's our fortress. 553 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: So it's crazy to me that after thirteen years, it 554 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: still looks relatively the same. I don't know what I 555 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: was expecting, like them to create an entirely new world. 556 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: It still feels very much like Pandora, but the characters 557 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: look a little bit more crisp, and I feel like 558 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: the movie is starting to make a little bit more 559 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: sense now. And I think the reason I didn't love 560 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: Avatar as much as maybe everybody else did, or as 561 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: much as people hyped it up to be, is while 562 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: the visuals are amazing, I felt like the story was 563 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: a little bit boring. And even as I watched it 564 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: back on Disney Plus, I realized that I'm watching that movie. 565 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: It's undeniable, that it is a really great achievement in cinema, 566 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: and James Cameron knows how to create a blockbuster, and 567 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: that's what Avatar is. It's the highest grossing movie of 568 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: all time, at two point eight billion dollars and actually 569 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: beat out of injuries in game after it was re 570 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: released in theaters in China last year. So I feel 571 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: like it's just always going to be the highest grossing movie. 572 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: Do I think Avatar The Way of the Water will be? 573 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: Probably not, but it's still going to make a lot 574 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: of money. But after watching this trailer, I feel like 575 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: this movie will have the better story you don't have. 576 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: I just felt like there was nothing original about the 577 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: first movie of this outsider coming trying to be like 578 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: one of their own, and then the bad guys coming 579 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: and then like, oh, we didn't trust it the entire time, 580 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: Like that's what Avatar was. It was essentially Dances with 581 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 1: Wolves but with blue people. And I think when you 582 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: take away that spectacle of seeing Pandora for the first time, 583 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: you take away that three D. The only thing I 584 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: still really enjoy about that movie is the final battle 585 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: scene when it is the characters an Avatar and also 586 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: the real life humans, and that's just a really fun 587 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: fight scene. I felt like that was the best moment 588 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: of that movie. I could have fallen asleep about halfway through, 589 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: woken up at that and been fine. So that movie 590 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: is a boastful two hours and forty two minutes, and 591 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: there's still no official runtime on what the sequel will be, 592 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: but it's rumored to be around that same mark. Two 593 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: and a half hours to three hours is what we're 594 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,239 Speaker 1: expecting here, and that's just what James Cameron does. I mean, 595 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: the Titanic is three hours in fourteen minutes, but I 596 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: don't think we really remember that. I remember the two 597 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: VHS tapes, but I just wonder if audiences will be 598 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: as excited to go back to the theaters thirteen years 599 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: later and sit down and watch this for three hours. 600 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: And I don't want to sound like a James Cameron 601 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: back sure, which is what I've been accused of before 602 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: on this podcast. I just feel like when it comes 603 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: to my favorite directors, I can always tell their work 604 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: by seeing their voice through the movie, whether it be 605 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: the editing technique, the casting, the storytelling, the writing, the dialogue. 606 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: To me, there's just something important about watching something and 607 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: knowing pretty quickly like who made this because of the style, 608 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: whether it be Quentin Tarantino, Martin Scorsese, Christopher Nolan, Steven Spielberg, 609 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: Zack Snyder, like they all just have a distinct style. 610 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: When I watch to James Cameron movie, I don't really 611 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: feel that. I think his style is just making a 612 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: blockbuster that makes a lot of money, so I think 613 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: that's it. He's just in the business of stacking mountains 614 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: of cash. But again, that comes out this year on December, 615 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: and they shot Avatar two in and at the same 616 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: time they shot Avatar three, which is coming out in 617 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: and then Avatar four is coming to six and Abatar 618 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: five is scheduled to come out on December. So I 619 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: hope we are all ready for this this weeks edition. 620 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: And that's gonna wrap it up for another week of 621 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: the podcast. And before I hop out of here, what 622 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: I do every single week, let's give the listener shout out, 623 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: whether it be an email movie Mike d at gmail 624 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: dot com, a d M, a tweet, or a comment 625 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: over on the Facebook page. And that's where I'm going today. 626 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: Every single week you can find the podcast actually posted 627 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,719 Speaker 1: there if you're somebody who happens to listen to podcast 628 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: on Facebook. At least for now, I know they're gonna 629 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: take it away pretty soon, but you can do that there. 630 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: And this is a comment on last week's episode from 631 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: Woody Boyd Wood, He writes, listening at four am kind 632 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: of late for me, but I finally remember to screenshot 633 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: me listening to this and decided to post it. Have 634 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: a swell Monday, so appreciate that. What do you here 635 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: is your shout out for being a very early or 636 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: late listener as you put it, Happy to have you 637 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: as a part of the Monday Morning Movie crew. And also, 638 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: if you enjoyed this week's interview, go over to my 639 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: Instagram or TikTok at Mike Destro, or you can find 640 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: the links in the description of this episode and leave 641 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: a comment let me know what you thought. Or if 642 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,959 Speaker 1: you don't want to write any words, just leave some 643 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: lightning bolts the lightning bolt emoji. I'll go like all 644 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: those comments, have a great rest of your week. I'll 645 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: talk to you next time, but until then, go out 646 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: and watch good movies. Later