1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to James Drive Time with John Osier Herson and 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Brian sex Sex. Janks Drive Time starts right now. Well, 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: good morning and welcome to t I a bank field 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: for Jags drive Time, presented to you today by our 5 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: friends at car Shield, Brian Sexton along with John Osier. 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Um is it a good morning for you? John? Just 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: shut up? Look on your face told me everything I 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 1: needed to know now. It's it's uh, there's so many 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: ways to go with it. Um. I expected this year, 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, seventeen games. I expected seven wins, 11 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: a couple of stinkers, and a couple of really big wins. 12 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: They hadn't had a stinker until yesterday. And and I 13 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: so over art over arching, I feel like you were 14 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: going to see one of these this year, because that's 15 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: what you see with young building teams. But it's sut See, 16 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: it's such a gut punch to have it be yesterday 17 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: in that situation. Well, because we talked about a meaningful 18 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: game after after Thanksgiving and you got one right on 19 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: Saturday night. I was around a lot of people and 20 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: they were all excited about this game. There was it 21 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: wasn't a buzz, it was you know, a vibration you 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: could feel in this town about this team. This is cool. Yeah, 23 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: and and and and with the Titans losing yesterday, if 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: the Jaguars could have won or even just lost in 25 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: a competitive game and giving people the feeling that their 26 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: team was coming, then you have a completely different mindset. 27 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: But today, I mean, there were so many competitive games 28 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: yesterday down to the end, and the Jaguars was clearly 29 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: not one of them. Uh, it's a big disappointment, you know. 30 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: And And in the post game show, Bucky Brooks, who 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: I know is one of your favorite guys, had had 32 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: had Doug Peterson on and one of the first things 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: he said, and it struck me. I wrote it down, 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: is that there's a level of intensity. We have to 35 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: figure out they're playing for the same things we're playing for. 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: But they played like they wanted it more. That's the 37 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: head coach. Right after the game. Now, there was probably 38 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: a little emotion there, but a Doug also said afterwards, Brian, 39 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt, but in the post game and 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna say this, and I remember exactly what 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: he said, but talked about not feeling like they're prepared, 42 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, and uh that they were a little awe 43 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: structs not the word, but um, well they were shocked 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: by the early shot, right, So, uh, you know that, 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: I think Doug knows that he's dealing with a young team. 46 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: There's a there's a process of trying to figure it out. 47 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: And it struck you from the comment that he said 48 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: that you just said and in the comment in on 49 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: the podium that he was surprised that they reacted that 50 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: way and he wants to figure out why does that 51 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: makes sense totally and it's it's Today is likely to 52 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: be a very painful day for people on that side 53 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: of the building, both in the locker room and in the 54 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: the coaches sweet as they have some very hard conversations. 55 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: Doug alluded to that as well. Let's jump into big 56 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: things and give you the three big stories of the game. 57 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: Yesterday on defense was as bad as it gets. The 58 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: Lions scored on every possession until the very end of 59 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: the game, where they just kneeled down twice every possession. 60 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: The defense had absolutely no answer what soever, none. And 61 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: you've got to go back a long time to have 62 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: a game like that, and that's sure you do, but 63 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: before then, you think at least seven years. Pretty bad 64 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: when it gets New England. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, 65 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be talking about that. Havn't happened before since 66 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: there ever no, But yes, it's a w so as 67 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: bad as it gets to Josh Allen felt it as well. 68 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: I just gotta go menace is disappointing, you know, special 69 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: for him not to front the ball. It's one time 70 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: that's embarrassing. I've never ever done that before in my career. 71 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: Hopefully it's gonna be the last. Ums. You gotta keep 72 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: going going there. Well, I felt bad in the second quarter, 73 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: as bad as it gets, But then maybe not when 74 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is laying on the field and you can 75 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: see the medical training staff and the team doctors evaluating 76 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: his knee, maybe it wasn't as bad. The good news 77 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars is is that he got up, walked 78 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: off the field and in the early part of the 79 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: third quarter came down that long, rampant Ford field and 80 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: back onto the playing field. Um, he wasn't hurt necessarily, 81 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: but his feelings were just embarrassing, honestly, Um, what we 82 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: put out there in such a big game for us, 83 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: and just I mean that's the word described as embarrassing. 84 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: Anybody that locker room feels that way too, just to 85 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: you know how. And this is a playoff game for us, 86 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: and we go out there and lay down, and you know, 87 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: all three phases just didn't anywhere close to our best football, 88 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: weren't detailed, didn't execute um And it's just embarrassing when you, 89 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: especially coming off a big win, and you come out 90 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: here and um laying egg. It's just can't happen. And 91 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: to his point, big thing three is make a play. 92 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: Nobody did. I mean the Lions made it on the 93 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: second play when they ripped the ball away from E. T. N. 94 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: How About on that very same series when the ball 95 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: to St. Brown was tipped twice and yet he pulled 96 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: it in to set up first in gold. I mean, 97 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: there were multiple opportunities for the Jaguars. On the next series, 98 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: A Jones has the ball in his hands inside the 99 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: ten yard line to set up first in gold, and 100 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: doesn't They made plays the Jaguars on either side of 101 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: the ball on special teams. Nobody made a play yesterday, 102 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: and the coach, well he noticed it too. It's uncharacteristic, 103 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: our guys, part of the you know, part of the 104 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: struggles on offense, you know, on third down, Um, too 105 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: many third and long scenarios and you know it's a 106 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: good pressure team on third long and and um, we 107 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: just didn't do enough today to stay out of those situations. 108 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: So there are your big things, John, and I guess 109 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: if there was anything positive, it's that the quarterback came 110 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: back and let a drive in the third quarter when 111 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: we were all wondering, did this season just go from 112 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, potentially promising, no matter how damn it might 113 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: seem at that moment, to gone, you know, heartbeat. Well, 114 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: I probably am guilty sometimes of looking at big picture 115 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: over micro if you will. Um, But to me, the 116 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: huge story of that game was that he wasn't hurt, 117 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: because what you don't want is him on May rehabbing 118 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: of next year. Um. So, and I know that I 119 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't say. It's a lot of fans who got that 120 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: yesterday we're like, thank goodness, but that was critical. You know, 121 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: you don't want your quarterback rehabbing during O t A. 122 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: I'm that big O t A guy, but he is 123 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: the one who needs to be there during that time. 124 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: I mean all of that, so that really mattered I 125 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: also thought Brian, we saw a last year maturity from 126 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence during tough times. Uh it's it's what made 127 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: us all believe that he was eventually going to be 128 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: great because you thought he had that element. I thought 129 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: yesterday he showed the maturity in the way he handled it. 130 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: But you could also feel that, all right, I'm tired 131 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: of this. You know this kind of thing can't happen. 132 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm ready, and I when I say I, I mean 133 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: more the team. We're ready to not be standing up 134 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: here like this. We kind of thought this was done. 135 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: Uh So, I know fans get tired of talking about 136 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: demeanor with him, but I feel like there was something 137 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: in there yesterday of all right, it's time not for 138 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: me to grow up, that's the wrong word, but it's 139 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: time for us to not do this. And I don't 140 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: think they'll do this very often. This feels like I 141 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: can remember, for example, way back when when I was 142 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: with the Colts two thousand two, they had a decent team. 143 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: Peyton was starting to get it going, and You're starting 144 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: to get it going, and they went up in the 145 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: playoffs and just got shelled by the Jets forty one 146 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: nothing and everybody. You know, fire this, fire that, and 147 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: they grew from that, you know, so that feels I 148 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: know they're not a playoff team. I get all that, 149 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: but that yesterday felt like sort of that. I think 150 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: it will. I don't think you'll see this from this team. 151 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be in big situations moving forward. 152 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't think you'll see this again to the quarterbacks 153 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: demean Yeah. So during the five game losing streak earlier 154 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: this year, you could tell that he was frustrated, that 155 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: he that he wanted Disappointed was probably a better word. 156 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: Yesterday was the first time where it sounded like he 157 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: was ready to have a conversation with his teammates. Look 158 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: was more of a come on, man. Take a look 159 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: at his numbers that we've got for you today. You 160 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: can see that he did not play Portland now. But 161 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: when you have z Jones, who who will, by my 162 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: account drop four balls and Evan ingram to you have 163 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: six drops his numbers. If you don't forget the numbers 164 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: for just a moment, that just shows though that he 165 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: wasn't the problem. Probably five drops thirty one for two 166 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: fifty get touchdown your but you catch that first one, 167 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: you got a touchdown, you tie the game at seven. Right, 168 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: you had drops on key drives and third down on 169 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: easy crossing routes that keep the change moving to give 170 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: the defense more of a chance to rest. As much 171 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: as we talked about z Jones last week and after 172 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: the game, I know he was very despondent. Might not 173 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: be the right word A word on za. Um it 174 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: was surprising. Well, it was surprising, and you know, I'm 175 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: not usually want to sit here and make excuse you play. 176 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: I think the chest injury was a lot worse than 177 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: you know. He was questionable a week with the chest injury. Um, 178 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that it was a given that he 179 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: was going to play. I think he was trying to 180 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: fight through it. He he alluded to that, and when 181 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: people hear that, I don't want people to think, oh, 182 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: he was making an excuse. It didn't feel like that. 183 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: It was more he was very uh as stand up 184 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: as you can possibly be. After that game, he was, 185 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: But I don't know that he should have fought through 186 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: that one. It felt like, well, uh and but as 187 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: soon as I say that, credit to him for trying, 188 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, but it felt like that probably bothered him. 189 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: He's gonna across the middle chest injury and am I 190 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: going to get hit um again? It feels like aberration 191 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: with that being to come off a career high day 192 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: deal more than it is. Yeah, I mean, But at 193 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: the same time, if A Jones was sitting here, he 194 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: was saying, I was on the field, I gotta play well. 195 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: He was coming off of a career high eleven catches, 196 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: eleven in fourth team targets against the Ravens, and to 197 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: drop his first four like that, well, it was it was. 198 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: It was just appointing. So all right, we'll take a 199 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: ba come back and show you some of the highlights 200 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: and talk to you through them as we continue Dragged 201 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: Jags Drive time. He has brought to you today by 202 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: car shield and we're back after this. We've got to 203 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: lick our wounds, you know, and we got two days 204 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: to figure it out. We gotta division opponent next week. 205 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna feel sorry for us, and so we're not 206 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: gonna feel sorry for ourselves. We're gonna go to work 207 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get things cleaned up. But it's everybody. 208 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: It's it's not one person, one position group, it's everybody 209 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: and coaches, players, myself. It's all of us, and and 210 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: obviously it starts there with me welcome back. Thought a 211 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: little sorry for me? Yes, no, I mean I you know, 212 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't make light of it, but it was it 213 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: was tough. Uh. And again, just going back to we 214 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: talked about at the top, I um, I expected it 215 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: two or three times this year. I think if if 216 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: you pull back and at at the end of the season, 217 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: I think if you pull back and this is the 218 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: only sort of just on a katie bar the door game, 219 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: then I think you'd say, wow, you know, ten double 220 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: digit losses last year and this was the first one 221 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: that felt like it was completely away the whole time. 222 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: You know, I expected in the first third team more 223 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: than or first twelve whatever it is, more than that. 224 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: But taking all that big picture stuff, just the macro, 225 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: I mean the micro of yesterday, you didn't expect that. No, 226 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: talking to the players, you know, watching practice this week, 227 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: there was no indication that it was going to go 228 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: this way. And they're gonna spend a lot of time 229 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: today watching the tape and as Doug said, trying to 230 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: figure things out so that when they get back on 231 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: Wednesday in the practice field getting ready for the Titans, 232 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: they're ready to go. We're gonna spend a couple of 233 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: minutes here and sugar some of the highlights. So early 234 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: on it looked like the Jaguar as we're going to 235 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: be able to do what they wanted to do. Second 236 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: play of the game, Travis E. T N finds a 237 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: big hole E t N when a first luck came 238 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: out as which kit around the thirties seven yard lock 239 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: and you see him here, watch him grab the ball 240 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: and cover up. I mean, you talk about making a play. 241 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: Five made a play, I think and I got some 242 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: questions about this, and they're legitimate questions. Is fumbling an issue? Well, 243 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: the short answer is yes, because he's had fumbles this year. 244 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: They have hurt the teams, so they must be an issue. 245 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: But I think this might be looked at, if you 246 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: when you look back on it as a case where 247 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: even the best running backs fumble sometimes because the guy 248 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: makes a play that felt like this more than it 249 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: did a Travis E. T N fumble problem. But that's 250 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: something that we'll see over the course of time as well. 251 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: So the head coach alluded in his postgame conference that 252 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: the team was shocked by that on the second play 253 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: the game. Sure all of you were as well. That 254 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: was a play made, and here are two more made 255 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: by the Lions to grab an early seven to nothing lead. 256 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: That's time chips eventually right the Toma Ross st Brown 257 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: stayed with the bouncing goals he gets, he gets the 258 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: touched on. That was a great catch and any defender 259 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: here could have made a play, Darius Williams. You see 260 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: both ray Seon Jenkins and Dewey there and no one 261 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: could and it set up the touchdown. Three plays made 262 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: by the Lions in the first three minutes. Yantheo, how 263 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: different is that? You know, I'm never one to you know, 264 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: hammer a cornerback for not making an interest deception, because 265 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: that's why they're corning out, not receivers all that. But 266 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: in that situation, red zone, that's where a great player 267 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: makes that play or at least knocks that ball down. 268 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: Darvis won As I make that play, all right. And 269 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: so if there were any plays made, it was on 270 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: the next drive with Christian Kirk setting the Jaguars up. 271 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: But then, as we mentioned, a, Jones had a chance 272 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: to make a play and could not, time for Lawrence 273 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: going down for Kirk's got Christian Kirk get until I 274 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: and territory across the twenty five yard law Kurt miss 275 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: tackle Christian Kirk. We'll have a first out out around 276 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: the twenty yard lined up Detroit. The written three Witches 277 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: on time for Lawrence and rock to the little of 278 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: the field by J. Jones. Catch that one and you 279 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: set yourself up or for first in gold. And you 280 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: know when Christian Kirk caught this pass, you thought, all right, well, 281 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: look they can get back into this one because this 282 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: is not a very good defense. Yeah, and it's this 283 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: is not a day for positives. But Christian Kirk, who 284 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: what the thirteen games now they played? Whatever the number is, 285 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: four and eight, Well I'm standing eleven because I blocked 286 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: out yesterday. Um, but really reliable Christian Kirk uh exactly 287 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: what they wanted. And somebody asked me in the ozone 288 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: last night if anybody showed up to play, and I 289 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: kind of I kind of made a night answer after 290 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: rewatch the tape at first glance, and no, Christian Kirk 291 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: played very well. He did, and we talked last week 292 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk or d J Chark. Kirk had a big game, 293 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: so did d J. Chark. What decision. He's from both 294 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: of them. That's still find the difference for gold. For 295 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: d J Chark, well, that's when I thought this might 296 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: be a long and a touchdown for the end song 297 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: catch touchdown, shra. I don't know there's any commentary necessary here. 298 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: This is what d J Chark did in twenty nineteen 299 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: and Jeered Golf is playing really well. Yeah, it's nice. 300 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean it was nice. Play credit DJ. Uh when 301 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: he is on the field, he is very dangerous. I 302 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: think his reliability overall in terms of injury is a 303 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: reason that they didn't bring him back. Uh for yesterday, 304 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: very good if he's healthy, very very very good. Uh. 305 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: If you know DJ Chark, you're happy for himhen he 306 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: does well. I wasn't happy for him yesterday because it 307 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: hurt the Jags. But uh, look, the secondary We've been 308 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: harping on it all year. And I know the pass 309 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: rush also needs work and is not great, but a 310 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: secondary that has been what I would call the fatal law. 311 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: The defense this year was the fatal fla again yesterday. 312 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: It's it is what it is, as they say, and 313 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: I you know, I'm not sure in the last five 314 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: games we're gonna see major improvement, cause I'm not sure 315 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: that it's possible. This felt like the worst moment and 316 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: then the best moment of yesterday. That not that there 317 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: was a best moment. Here's the quarterback pressure and you 318 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: see his foot get caught underneath, and I thought it 319 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: was the ankle, and then they started looking at the knee. 320 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: Of course, we didn't find out anything until the third 321 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: quarter when he came back onto the field, and at 322 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: least you had that. Yeah, I've there was talk whether 323 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: it should have been a penalty. It was close. Uh, 324 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: you know, they've called that a penalty this year at times. 325 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: I can see why they didn't because it was right 326 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: at the hip and he was umbling. It didn't look 327 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: to me like it was an intentional play on that 328 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: players uh part. But you know I used legal decide that. 329 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: Thank goodness. I mean, you know, for everything this franchise 330 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: is trying to go be uh they need him. Yeah, 331 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: thank goodness. He wouldn't hurt, I mean, and Doug said, 332 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: very fortunate. Jaguars obviously did not stop the Detroit Lions 333 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: in the first half. Jecks trailed six, and it didn't 334 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: feel like they were gonna be able to stop him. 335 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: In the second half and the quarterback and his question 336 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 1: mark with the injury, but you felt like if at 337 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: least they could maybe they could claw their way back 338 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: and make a game of this. DeAndre Swift quickly put 339 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: that to bed Swift. Swift to stop kind of the 340 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 1: way the whole day when it felt like maybe they 341 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: were going to get him behind the line of scrimmage. 342 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, mrs do we can't bring him down, Claybrooks 343 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: can't stop him short, they get in, they go up. 344 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: Game is essentially on its way to being done at 345 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: that point. Let's go right though to the one drive, 346 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: the Jaguars first drive at the third quarter that ended 347 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: with Evan Ingram finding the end zone in a nifty 348 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: two point conversion that made you think, okay, well the 349 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks helps us, but pushed around Ruby are and I'm 350 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: a ground icly touchdown any Trevor Lawrence Let's side and 351 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: they finally get it into the end zone. It's even 352 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: taking the direct snap here, but it's just throw the Lawrence, 353 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: but it's jamal At winding into the end zone. A 354 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: creative play for two. I got a lot of questions, 355 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: Brian from people, Uh criticizing wife Trevor was in the 356 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: game at that point, etcetera, etcetera. There's a couple of things. 357 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: Is the NFL teams have come back from thirties six, Yeah, 358 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: play in the third you'r uh. That didn't bother me? 359 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: So well? Why did you not play E t N 360 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: last week? They didn't play E t N last week. 361 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: Some of it was they wanted to make sure the 362 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: kid knew he was okay on on a major injury 363 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: he had sustained to the same area. A lot of 364 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: that was, okay, let's make sure that the player is confident. 365 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: You know, Trevor had never really injured that knee before. 366 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 1: As long as the doctors told Trevor you are okay 367 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: and there's no risk of injury, there was nothing wrong 368 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: with him playing you. I mean, I don't know what 369 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: else hey hold them out because of why? I mean, 370 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: so that didn't bother me. I think there was sort 371 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: of a a fear factor from some fans because, oh, 372 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: oh goodness. But if if they had the information that 373 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: that was okay, I don't know what else you're supposed 374 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: to do. And at that point you're down two touchdowns 375 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: and two extra points. But you still have almost fifteen 376 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: minutes to play. I mean, it's against the rules to 377 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: stop them right at that point, I don't think I'll 378 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: google that. At that point, you thought, well, maybe they 379 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: can make a game of this thing here in the 380 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: fourth they did the week before, and of course they 381 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: did not yesterday. All right, when we come back, hot takes, 382 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: and some of them are very hot. As we continue 383 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: with Jack's Drive Time from t I A A bank 384 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: Field in Jacksonville, presented on a Monday morning by our 385 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: friends at car Shield. If your car is out of 386 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: manufacturer's warranty called car shield, now, don't get stuck with 387 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: expensive mechanical and computer screen repairs called car shield Today. 388 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, John Osier with you here drive Time on 389 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: a Monday, following a well, choose your adjective, disappointing, difficult, 390 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: awful Jaguars fourteen loss at Ford Field in Detroit. Obviously 391 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: you all have hot takes. We do as well. John, 392 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: leave us off. And I was gonna go with the defense, 393 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: but if you're probably gonna talk about the defense, and 394 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: and it's uh, you know, the hot takes are are 395 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: obvious there to me. Um The one I went with 396 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: was trying to put the playoff talk away for a while, 397 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: which sucks because it would have been fun this week. Well, 398 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: and you know what I wrote and what I believe 399 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: about this team. I believed they earned the right to 400 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: talk about it last week because they had a couple 401 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: of wins in UH in three weeks, beat the Titans 402 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: on Sunday, UH show up and then you know, we'll 403 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: listen to you next week, you know, and then you're 404 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: two out with whatever to play, and you're back in 405 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: that scenario where if you start winning, if you get 406 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, if you beat Dallas, you know, ho ho ho. 407 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: I know fans are saying, but you know, so uh 408 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: when this week and then we'll listen again, right, Yeah, 409 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: I think I said it. Off the top of the show. 410 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: There there was an audible just you could do, physical, visceral, 411 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: whatever reaction. People were excited about this game four and seven, Right, 412 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: they want two of their last three, but people wanted this. 413 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: And from my perspective, right, that's the hard part of 414 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: this game, not that the defense couldn't stop anyone and 415 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: that the offense didn't make plays, but that there was 416 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: a moment for this team in this town to connect 417 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: on a deeper level about this year and to build 418 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: that belief. Look, there were so many close games yesterday, 419 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: but this wasn't one of them, and you had people going, well, 420 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: that's the Jaguars. I know, yeah, but that's not that's 421 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: not what this team. Well yesterday it did look like it, 422 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: that's not what we saw not bend the overarching story. 423 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: I always go back, you know, you don't come back 424 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: and beat the Ravens with the same old Jaguars, right, 425 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: and people always talk about want to and desire, and 426 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: Tony Dungee said something to me once that when you're 427 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: not playing well defensively, you always look like you're not trying. 428 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: And it's not necessarily that they're not trying or they 429 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: don't care, they not do it. But when you're not 430 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: playing well defensively, you're not stopping anybody, the automatic sort 431 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: of go to as well, they didn't have any desire 432 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: or effort. Well, I just think, yes, you know, the 433 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: bottom line is his defense has given up twenty points, 434 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: uh every game since the Texans. Well they're not very good. 435 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: So when you're very good on defense, which until they 436 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: prove us wrong, that's what they're they are, then it 437 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: looks like you're not trying well. And you go back 438 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: and you look at this defense, and and that brings 439 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: us to my heart take, which is that you it's 440 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: time to look differently at this defense. I think we 441 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: saw them play pretty well early on, especially in Los Angeles, 442 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: and we thought, all right, they spent a lot of 443 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: money at a lot of high draft capital to put 444 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: this together, and now you know, it's just a matter 445 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: of them figuring it out. But when you look back 446 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: and you see that they blew fourth quarter leads against 447 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: the commanders, against the cults, least against right, I mean 448 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: you this team should have been in a much better 449 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: situation going into yesterday and blew a Yatt texts without 450 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: a doubt. And so this defense is just steadily gone downhill. 451 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: So it's time to think completely differently and look, John, 452 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: the last two years, the money they've spent on guys 453 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: like Roy Roberts and Harris and fully fought Dukasi and Foyer, A, 454 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: Louis Khan and Darius Williams. I mean, they have spent 455 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: money and draft capital. Jack Gribbin, not not all of 456 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: that's necessarily Let's put it this way. Some of that 457 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: was probably poorly spent right. Jack Griffin in particularly looks 458 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: like that guy. They've also spent high draft capital the 459 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: last couple of years, Tyson Campbell, Trayvon Walker, you know 460 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: the name is Chad Muma, Derek, Devin Lloyd. These guys 461 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: are gonna be here, right. The salary cap is so 462 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: tight next year Jack Griffin's I'm gonna be here, but 463 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: everyone else will be here, So you gotta start thinking differently. 464 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: I don't, and I'm not gonna pretend to Jeff Long. 465 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, Okay, put this guy's hand on 466 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: the ground and put this guy outside. You know, you 467 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: all can have those conversations, and I will as well. 468 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I 469 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: know exactly what they have to do to fix this thing. 470 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: But they have to have some very difficult conversations. Doug 471 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: set it yesterday post game. People have got to be 472 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: willing to talk about this and have these conversations and 473 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: think about are the people that we have being coached 474 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: and put in the right positions to be their best. 475 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a really tough conversation for my Caldwell 476 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: and his staff today. Yep, there that's the only way 477 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: to say it. I mean, it's I almost titled this 478 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: blow it up, right because everyone was thinking that yesterday 479 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: when you can't stop an opponent even once, given the 480 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: history of this defense in the last six weeks, and 481 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: then that, yeah, blow it up doesn't sound so radical, 482 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: But they've got to blow up the way they're thinking 483 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: about this and go back to square one in terms 484 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: of you can't do that, now, you gotta do that thing. 485 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: That's the difficult part. I'm getting questions about, well, do 486 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: you put tray Vion's hand on the ground and do 487 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: you move Devin Lloyd outside? Not a terrible idea considering 488 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: their skill set, I'll think a good questions what uh 489 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: should they be playing a four three rather than a 490 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: three four it set, etcetera. None of those intrinsically are 491 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: awful concepts. The problem is it's it's December six, December five, 492 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: and it's very difficult. Doug alluded to it at some 493 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: point the last couple of weeks. It's very difficult to 494 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: have young players move around when you already have a 495 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: rookie trying to figure it out, and then you go 496 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: into their rookie and say, hey, guess what, You're playing 497 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: a new position. So that's that's a difficult thing. And uh, 498 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick said it. Uh this week or recently, there 499 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: hasn't about changing his play caller. It's like, look, it's weak, yeah, 500 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: help us out on the way there. So it's tough. 501 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: The story of the last two weeks has been Devin 502 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: Lloyd and how lost he looked. Chad Muma looked equally 503 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: lost yesterday equally. So when I see that, and it's 504 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: not just one rookie, it's two, I think, all right, 505 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: what can you do schematically? How can you coach them 506 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: up to get them in a position where they don't 507 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: look lost? They shouldn't look lost heading into the twelfth 508 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: game of the season. They might not look like, Hey, 509 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: they're rising players that may still be a year away. 510 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: But you've got to have these guys, these high draft picks, 511 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: looking like they're making progress, not looking like they're falling backwards. 512 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: And so from a defensive perspective, you are probably gonna 513 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: blow it up in the off season and reinvent it entirely. 514 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: What do they do this Sunday for the Titans? I mean, 515 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: the first time they punt Jaguars fans are gonna go 516 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: nuts if you get see what I mean by I 517 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: mean you know what the Titans are. They're gonna hit 518 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: you with Derrick Henry and then try to go over 519 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: the top. Yeah and again. Not to labor the point, 520 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: but I really look forward yesterday to seeing this Jaguars 521 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: defense against a conventional offense because I thought, okay, I know, 522 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: running quarterback should be a little better. Their numbers were 523 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: okay against the run. It didn't feel great against the 524 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: run of Times O'Brien because when they needed the yards. Yeah. So, uh, 525 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: we'll see on the docket. He's good. Yeah, he's he's 526 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: pretty good. We'll take a break when we return. Some 527 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: closing thoughts looking forward to a big divisional game next 528 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: Sunday in Nashville. This is Jack's drive time from t 529 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: I A A bank field in Jacksonville, and we're back 530 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: in a moment. Well, Magellan Transport moves that freight and 531 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: they're voted the coolest office space in Jacksonville. Apply online 532 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: at www dot Magellan Logistics dot com. Move the freight 533 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: with Magellan. I thought I had the great win last 534 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: week and it's all we're excited and everything, but this 535 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: that's a different week. It's a different set of circumstances, 536 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: just like now moving forward Tennessee next week. We've got 537 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: to somehow figure out to put this behind us and 538 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: focus on Tennessee and in in you know, sort of 539 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: adjust our processes during the week, right, and and evaluate yourself, 540 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: starting with me, and evaluate that and then evaluate you know, 541 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: the team and each player and each coach has to 542 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: do that. But there's there's that short term memory in 543 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: this league that that you've got to move on, right, 544 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: You get the good the bad, You just gotta move 545 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: on and focus on the next week and and put 546 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: the same amount of energy into this week coming up 547 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: that you did this past week in the week before, right, um, 548 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: and and and focus on your job, focus on your 549 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: game plan. And then as coaches, we gotta make sure 550 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: we're doing the right thing by putting you know, putting 551 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: the right people in the right spots. You don't have 552 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: to read between the lines with this guy. Doug Peterson 553 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: has been in this league and had such great success 554 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: throughout his entire career. Set some down moments too, but 555 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: he's seen the highest of highs uh. And the message 556 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: yesterday was get ready for Monday. It's gonna be a 557 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: tough day, but then we're gonna put it behind us 558 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: because we can't afford. You can't stand still. You have 559 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: to be able to make quick decisions and then apply yourself. 560 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: I thought that comment that he made to Bucky Brooks 561 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: in the postgame radio show was was probably the most 562 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: telling of all from postgame yesterday. Yeah. He Uh, they've 563 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: got the right guy there, And I understand fans are 564 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: upset about yesterday. Yesterday was ugly. It was bad. Um, 565 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: But I think there's some coaches who wouldn't have wanted 566 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: to come out after that game and said, hey, we 567 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: weren't ready. We weren't. Uh. We looked shocked because those 568 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: comments are very easy for people to twist and say, well, 569 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: who's supposed to get him ready? It's you, coach. Well, 570 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: I think Doug would say, yeah, he said it at 571 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: the beginning of yes I am, and now I'm gonna 572 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: go figure it out and fix it. That's that's my job. 573 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: He's been around long enough to know that these games happen, 574 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: they're not good, and that we figured out. But he's 575 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: not scared to be transparent on that front. He's confident 576 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: enough to say, yeah, you know, it is my job 577 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: to go figure this out, and I will. So I 578 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: think that spoke volumes of how ready this guy is. 579 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: Obviously he's ready, he has a Super Bowl, But how 580 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: good he is in that situation, I guess is what 581 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking for. I talked to him this week coming 582 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: off the practice field on Wednesday after I got done 583 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: interviewing Jim Bob Cooter, and and he knows, you know, 584 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: he knew when he took this job that it was 585 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: going to take time, but he also knew that with 586 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: some good coaching and some improvement that they put themselves 587 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: in positions like yesterday right to be able to take 588 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: advantage of Hey, go be to the Lions and be 589 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 1: in this thing in December, despite the fact that this 590 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: is his first year here. Um, that's why I found 591 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: yesterday's comments so telling you said, he's not scared. The 592 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: guy's confident, but he knows what he's doing here. He 593 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: understands what it takes. Did he expect yesterday, No, he 594 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: did not expect yesterday. But he only has today to 595 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: figure out what happened, because then tomorrow is all about 596 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: next week. And you talk about leadership, He's got to 597 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: lead his team through this one and teach them how 598 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: to get ready in one week for next Sunday in Nashville. 599 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: And he talked after the game yesterday and I don't 600 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: know that there's that much to this. It was a 601 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: reporter he didn't really cover the Jags asked the question 602 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: about home and road, and uh, you know, I haven't 603 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: felt that they're just an awful team on the road 604 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: and grade at home. The record says three and two 605 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: at home. But but you know, if it is an issue, 606 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: guess what you're going to Tennessee. So but again I 607 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: don't I don't feel that that was a little bit 608 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: of a theme yesterday. Um, but they have a chance 609 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: to go prove that right and in what for this 610 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: franchise is a brutally tough environment. Well, Monday's after loss 611 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: are tough, and today is the toughest one of the season. 612 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: We'll be back with you on Wednesday and hope to 613 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: be able to have a show to give you some 614 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: answers and see where this team is headed as they 615 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: head to Nashville for Sunday's game against the Titans. Thanks 616 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: for joining us on Jags Drivetime. We'll talk to you 617 00:34:49,800 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 1: on Wednesday ASSISTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS