1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome 2 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: to the show, Ridiculous Historians. As always, thank you so 3 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: much for tuning in confession. This week has turned me 4 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: into at least temporarily a t G I F person, 5 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: which I never thought I would be. Who am I? 6 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: My name is Ben? Which T G I F person? 7 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: Aren't you been? Are you Steve Rkel? Or are you 8 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: more of a Coral or maybe the Olsen Twins or 9 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: a Balky? You're sort of a Balky esque figure. That's 10 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: very kind of you. I know you like perfect strangers, 11 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: is all I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, no, I I appreciate yourn. 12 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate that imntally. I love that. I love that 13 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: theme song. That is one of my favorite uh theme 14 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: songs of all sitcom time. Uh you know it's it's 15 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: a banger, right, It's inspirational, downright inspirational. If you ask me, 16 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: we're standing tall on the wings of our dreams. What 17 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: does that even mean? Though it's a little confusing, how 18 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: can you stand on wings and and do how to dream? 19 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: To dreams? Have? It's a little The imagery plum mixes 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: me a bit, but I do find the melodies soaring 21 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: melody really gets me riled up in a good way. Yeah, 22 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: not a sexual way though. Oh that's good to know. 23 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: But you know, it's live your truth. Bro. Uh. Speaking 24 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: of fantastic segways, of course, where would we be without 25 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: our super producer, Casey Pegram Uh, Casey you are you 26 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: a Perfect Strangers fan? Just sitcom wise? Like theme song 27 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: wise baby? Oh yeah, it's it's it's. I think it's 28 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: objectively one of the better theme songs from that decade, 29 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: and that decade is is rife with great themes, so uh, 30 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: quite an achievement to be one of the best. Yeah. 31 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: Agreed not to get too in the leads about the 32 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: sitcom themes, but I just the song craft of them 33 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: was always really impressed me because you gotta pack like 34 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: everything a three and a half minute song would have 35 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: into like forty five seconds. There's even a bridge in 36 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: the Perfect Strangers theme. Okay, I mean that's that's the 37 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: last I'm gonna say on that topic, but really impressive songwriting. 38 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: There's like some real time distortion happening in those themes, 39 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: when it feels like, you know, minutes have past, but 40 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: you've really only been there for thirty seconds. It's impressive. 41 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: It's such a download of exposition. And the weird thing 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: is you can hear the full versions, you know, online 43 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: easily now. Uh, and they don't hold up. They're not 44 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: They're not as catchy as the sitcom ones. I love. 45 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: I love the exposition. We should do I propose we 46 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: do an episode on sitcom themes in the future, because 47 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, I read somewhere that there's like a relatively 48 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: small cadre of people who are responsible for most of 49 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: the real bangers. Uh, you know, as a kid, and 50 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: I know why. I was myopically fascinated with the Mr. 51 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: Belvedere theme song and it's one of those that's doing 52 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: what we're talking about where it just like explains the 53 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: whole crazy situation. Also the nanny fran Dresser. If you're 54 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: if you're hearing this, I'm on Twitter, so so what 55 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: do you think? No one? Would that be an interesting 56 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: idea for a future episode? Absolutely? And fran Um get 57 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: at me too. I'm on Instagram. How now, Nold it's 58 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: had a big old nanny crush, uh. And though it 59 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: didn't age well with me personally, but when I was 60 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: at a certain age at fran Dresser really got my 61 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: dander up. Yeah, yeah, fran dresser and feelings I didn't 62 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: understand at the time. But uh, but let's let's move 63 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: on to today's episode. Uh. This is something that may 64 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: also be a little bit difficult for many of us 65 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: listening in the modern day to understand. And that is this, 66 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: back in the day, just like now, people were trying 67 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: to do everything they could to ensure that they lived 68 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: as long as possible, and that they were healthy and 69 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: virile and vital while they were alive. You can see 70 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: it today and things like uh, anti aging creams of 71 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: dubious efficacy. Uh. And and today's episode is about something 72 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:31,119 Speaker 1: even more dubious. People thought that they could improve their 73 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: physical health by doing something incredibly strange. No, you want 74 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: to do the honors on this one, Ben, and I 75 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: think we can explain the topic of today's episode with 76 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: a quote from Exodus nineteen, in which Moses ascended the 77 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: mountain to meet with the Lord, and after receiving the 78 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: ten commandments from his Lord, Moses came down from on 79 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: high upon the mountain, where he saw the people worshiping 80 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: a golden calf that they had made an idol, and 81 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: Moses anger waxed hot. He took the golden calf, burned 82 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: it in fire, grounded into powder, and sprinkled it to pond. 83 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: The water Moses made the children of Israel drink of it. 84 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: The powder Moses sprinkled upon the water was gold dust. 85 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: As my dramatic reading. Ever, the day yea drinking gold 86 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: drinking goal was a thing dates back to Biblical times. Um. 87 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: Apparently there was some kind of notion that it was 88 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: imbued with magical properties. I don't know, they weren't really doing, 89 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: you know, clinical studies at the time. It had to 90 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: have been based onto some sort of like hunch. I 91 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: guess what do you think? Then it's strange because you know, 92 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: gold has a really long history throughout human civilization as 93 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: a therapeutic agent, similar in some ways to silver. First 94 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: it was used as a metal, right, and then of 95 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: course there's the dust reference in biblical times. Uh. And 96 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: then it was used as a soluble salt made by 97 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: alca missed. The predecessors of chemists, you know, you'll recognize 98 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: them as the dudes who set out to like make 99 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: the Philosopher's stone and then invented pesticides and things like that. 100 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: They some of the more convinced that this substance gold 101 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: could be Uh. By the way, I just have to 102 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: point out it is element seventy nine on the periodic table, 103 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: is it is it? F E? That's all right? Gold 104 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: is an a A you A? You? That's right. Sodium 105 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: is an a or nice? Yeah, you got me on 106 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: the periodic table, and you know it's sure. It sounds 107 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: a lot like this Moses story. I just really wanted 108 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: an excuse to read in my my most Biblical of voices, 109 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: was an example of like him kind of rubbing the 110 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: children of Israel's noses in what they had done and 111 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: making treating them like bad boys and girls because they 112 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: know worshiped this idol um. But the notion that gold 113 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: was this kind of magical elixir of lie if that would, 114 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, extend your life can be traced all the 115 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: way back to China in b C. Yeah, this is 116 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: where we see the first instance of someone preparing something 117 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: like potable gold. Potable is just addressed up word meaning 118 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: drinkable like potable water. You probably here in survival scenarios 119 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: and also in Egypt, drinking gold water was thought to 120 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: enhance your youth. Uh, in are you vetic medicine. Today 121 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: in India, red collidal gold is still used for the 122 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: same roughly the same thing, rejuvenation, revitalization. And it's strange because, 123 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, going back to alchemy, we look at the 124 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: history of this. Making drinkable gold is something that alchemists 125 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: were super obsessed with for a incredibly long time. Yea, 126 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: alchemy in general, I mean gold making something out of 127 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: nothing like turning you know, a non pre just metal 128 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: into the most precious of metals that that was gold 129 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: being chief amongst them. UM. So gold alchemists were pretty 130 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: gold focused. But yeah, it's true. I mean, you know, 131 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: back in in those ancient times when alchemists um were 132 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: really looked at as as these you know, great kind 133 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: of pillars of the community. They were almost like medicine 134 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: men or or you know like physicians really UM, and 135 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: they were trusted in and they were thought to be 136 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: generating something that actually could cure what ails you. It's 137 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: interesting you were talking about just a minute ago of 138 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: the red colloidal gold that's used in India UM today. 139 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: Also colloidal silver is sort of one of those is 140 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: it isn't it snake oil or not kind of remedies 141 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: that a lot of people swear by um. But yeah, 142 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: back to alchemy, it was known, it was it was. 143 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: It was common knowledge that the gold was not soluble 144 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: in water. So the idea of making a drinkable gold, 145 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: uh was kind of a you know, superpower move in 146 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: and of itself and demonstrated some sort of mastery of 147 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: I don't know, the dark arts the light arts. I 148 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: guess an alchemist was more I guess into you know, 149 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: magic for good. I guess right. You know, they labored 150 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: under some stereotypes, you know what I mean, especially if 151 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: they were the only people in the region who could read. Uh. 152 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: Just like a lot of medical practitioners at the time. 153 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: You know, an alchemist was in higher than average danger 154 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: of being accused of witchcraft. In the eighth century a d. 155 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: There's this Arabian alchemists. His name is Jabber Eben high On, 156 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: or you'll hear him called Kerber sometimes. He made the 157 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: biggest breakthrough in drinkable gold when he invented something called 158 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: aqua reggiea. He combined hydrochloric and nitric acid. He created 159 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: one of the few substances that can dissolve gold. So 160 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: this is useful for a lot of things. Right, if 161 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: we're being practical ole and a little bit mundane about it, 162 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: you can use this substance to help you with gold extraction. 163 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: You can use it to purify gold. But they wanted 164 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: to use it for other things. They wanted to to 165 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: use it for its perceived curative qualities. And since the 166 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: eighth century a d in this part of the world, 167 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: alchemists spent a thousand years maybe more, trying to figure 168 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: out where else they could go with this. European alchemists 169 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: have found these the secret written in a couple of 170 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: books in the ninth and tenth centuries, and we know 171 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: from other records some famous medieval alchemists had claimed that 172 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: they had discovered an actual life elixir. And that's the 173 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: thing we see a lot with alchemy. You'll see somebody 174 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: who says like uh like, like Michael Scott, not from 175 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: the office. But the alchemists, they'll they'll say that they've 176 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: made something right, some big secret, but they they won't 177 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: straight out tell you what it is or how they 178 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: got it. Well, then help me with this. Ben. You know, 179 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm Mina was sort of joking about using magic for 180 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: good or whatever, and you know, alchemy was not they 181 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: would not have considered themselves to be manipulating any kind 182 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: of supernatural forces. They were, you know, supposedly using a 183 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: precursor to chemistry and you know, using science. But a 184 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: lot of this stuff about transmutation and turning things into 185 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: other things, there's some magical thinking that goes along with that, 186 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: and a lot of it was bunk, right, I mean, 187 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: just just to clarify the whole kind of trajectory of 188 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: alchemy in general. Yeah, and we have to keep in 189 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: mind that in these times, uh, science and spirituality were 190 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: not considered naturally in opposition, you know what I mean. 191 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: You would have Christian alchemists who were using what we 192 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: would call something like science to prove their spiritual beliefs. Right, 193 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: So there's some confirmation bias in their um. It's just 194 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: a it's a very interesting evolution. If we fast forward 195 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: to the century, we know those alchemists like Michael Scott. 196 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: That's so funny to me. It's Michael Scott will one 197 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: t for the record. Roger Bacon and a couple of 198 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: others had already written about this drinkable gold which they 199 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: called our room PoTA bill. And because of the because 200 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: of all the different people who are working on this 201 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: over the centuries. Uh, this drinkable gold got a reputation, 202 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: kind of a snake oil reputation, like something you'd see 203 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: in a medicine show. It was called a panacea that 204 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: it could cure all diseases. That like, hey, if you 205 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: had any affliction, you know, whether you've got like brain 206 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: ghosts or you've got to fever, then just drink gold. 207 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: Pesky brain ghosts. Man, I can't get rid of them. 208 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: They follow me wherever I go, whispering sweet nothings to me. Um. 209 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: So then there was this guy, um who as you 210 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: loved this name. His name is Paracelsus. I don't know itself. 211 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: Sounds like some sort of like stomach medicine. Uh so 212 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: he seems legit just by his name alone. He really 213 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: was a big force in kind of really spreading this 214 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: notion of potable gold as this elixir of life that 215 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: could cure anything that ailed you, you know, and also 216 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: you know, keep your skin fresh and rejuvenated looking. Um 217 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: probably do wonderful things for your hair as well, I imagine. Um. 218 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was used to treat fevers and all 219 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: kinds of ailments, and uh, you know, indigestion and anything 220 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:47,359 Speaker 1: that you can think of, but actually caused more problems 221 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: than it cured. There was this condition known as oric 222 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: fever that um, surprise, surprise, you know, expose yourself to 223 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: metal over a long period of time, you start to 224 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: get this thing that causes you to sweat profusely and um. 225 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: The way it's described in this article from BMJ dot 226 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: com is uh, uh to have a very abundant flow 227 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: of urine in addition to irritations and your gutty parts, 228 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: and also could really cause I mean heavy met metals 229 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: and your well, I mean it's not a heavy metal, 230 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: but it's definitely not something that probably should be ingested 231 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: in your body to that degree. And it would you know, 232 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: understandably cause damage to your kidneys trying to filter it out. Uh. 233 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: And also you would um, you know, drool a lot. 234 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: It would mess with your with your production of saliva, 235 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: and after a certain threshold you could even die. Deaths 236 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: from gold intoxication were described. They were not uncommon, but 237 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: still people thought, you know, that's that's sort of how 238 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: a lot of medicine works. It can be what can 239 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: be beneficial in small doses can be dangerous in large judoses, 240 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: and people still praised this. Historically, Paracelsus introduced earlier, said Oxus, 241 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: gold disupreme in the most important force. Gold. You can 242 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: keep the body indistructible, drinkable gold with your all illnesses. 243 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: It renews and restores. And it's weird because that's kind 244 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: of like this ancient TV infomercial language, right, It's like, 245 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: do you have double elbow exactly gold like bone broth 246 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: or something. Totally nailed it. Yeah, by the way, you guys, 247 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: I can't, I can't let this go. Uh. Paracelsus is 248 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: full name was thus obviously if I can't even get 249 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: through this is incredible. Philippius Aurolius, Theophrastus Bombastus von hon 250 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: and I'm nice a k A street name Paracelsus and 251 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: he was Swissed by the way, and that wow, Theophrastus Bombastus, 252 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? I know, dropped the bet. I'll 253 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: freestyle that. Uh. So we're setting this stage here to 254 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: say that gold was used for a lot of things, 255 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: and we've got numerous cases across the world of people 256 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: saying gold is the cure for what ails you, regardless 257 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: of what your symptoms might be. But as we've been foreshadowing, 258 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: it really takes off as an anti aging trend. Uh. 259 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: During the Middle Ages. This is also the time when 260 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: Apothecary's a K predecessors of pharmacists, would sell things like 261 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: scorpion oil and spider web alexers, which I love because 262 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of Skyrim, which is just 263 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: a fantastic video game. Uh. And we know that, like 264 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: we know that gold drinking has been a suggested practice 265 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: and suggested to have medicinal application for thousands and thousands 266 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: of years. And when we fast forward to the Elizabeth 267 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: Bethan era, we know that the use of drinkable gold 268 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: was well enough established in European culture of the time 269 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: that even Shakespeare mentioned it. In Henry the Fourth Prince, 270 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: Henry blames h claims the gold crown for his father's illness, saying, 271 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: I spake unto this crown is having sense, and thus 272 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: upbraided it the care on the depending half fed upon 273 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: the body of my father. Therefore thou best of gold, 274 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: art worst of gold are the less fine, and carrots 275 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: is more precious, preserving life in medicine potable. And I 276 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: was shaking my fist as you were doing that reading 277 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: and just really really got to me. That was good. Um. 278 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: What so he's saying, like, you know, the gold crown 279 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: is what makes is what's making my father ill. But 280 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: you know the real goal, the helpful gold is maybe 281 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: less impressive in terms of carrots and appearance, but it 282 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: is real medicine because you can drink it. Interesting. Okay, 283 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: I see it now, I see it now, Ben, Thank 284 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: you for walking me through that. That's interesting man. Okay. 285 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: So let's not the present, I guess, but I think 286 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: moving on to the sixteenth century when we have Henry 287 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: the Second, whose mistress actually drank gold in order to 288 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: stay youthful. Uh and and you know, attractive to her, 289 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: not husband. What do what do you call? What does 290 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: a mistress call her liaison, her lover? Maybe lover? Maybe? Um? 291 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: I like, uh, maybe, I mean in the parlance of 292 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: our day at sugar daddy. But I want something more 293 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: classy for this because we're talking about aristocrats here. How 294 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: about a zaddi. Okay, you know what, let's go with it. Yeah, okay, So, yeah, 295 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: she wanted to stay you know, trim and fit for 296 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: her zaddie. And there was a study that was published 297 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: in the British Medical journal that actually chronicled this. But 298 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: I think she she might have had a little too much, 299 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: like you said, been a little little little dabbled you 300 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: and according to U toxicology reports, this eventually led to 301 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: her poisoning herself. Yeah, you're right, Noel, Diane de Poitiers Casey, 302 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna check with you on the French there. Yeah, 303 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: that would be something like Dianda Potier Casey on the 304 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: case and not that bad. Yes, So, Diane de Poitiers 305 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: is one of the few confirmed cases of someone dying 306 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: by drinking gold. She was as as you said, Noel. 307 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: She was the infamous mistress of King Henri the second 308 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: of France, and she was a well taught, well rounded 309 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: educated person. She studied music, hunting, languages, and she was 310 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: given what I would say is is a pretty high 311 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: end education for a young woman in the Renaissance era. 312 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: Totally question though, for everyone and for history, why is 313 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: the mistress got to be the infamous one? I mean, 314 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: what about the king? Is he not to blame, you know, 315 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: for cheating on his wife? What? Well? I don't understand 316 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: why all the blame goes on the on the woman. 317 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: That's just my hot take. Yeah, I have a low 318 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: opinion of kings in general. You guys both know this 319 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: about me. I would say, maybe she's infamous because of 320 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: the manner of her death. I don't know. Yeah, I 321 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: could well be. It's a good question. Infamous though I 322 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: just think of his meaning, meaning he did something bastardly. 323 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: This is more just kind of a sad product of 324 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: her trying to stay in the good favor of her 325 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: jerky king, you know, zaddie. Uh. She married someone thirty 326 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: nine years her senior when she was fifteen. His name 327 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: was Louis de Bres. He was the grandson of King 328 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: Charles the seventh, and he had served in the court 329 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: of King Francis one. And so this this marriage had 330 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: to have I mean, maybe it was romantic, but we 331 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: have to remember the idea of marrying for romantic love 332 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: is sadly a relatively recent invention in history. Uh. This 333 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: may have been a political move. She served as the 334 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: lady of waiting to Queen Claude, and then her and 335 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: her husband had two daughters before Louis passed away in 336 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: fift thirty one, leaving Diane thirty two years old. She 337 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: started wearing black and white, as you know, a symbol 338 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: of mourning, and she would keep these colors for the 339 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: rest of her life. So at this time, she's, as 340 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: we said, thirty two years old, she's already renowned for 341 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: her beauty. Imagine the sixteenth century version of a bunch 342 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: of people coming up to a pretty person and saying, 343 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, what's your secret. Maybe it's you, maybe 344 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: it's Mabel Lee. Uh. In this case, it was gold. 345 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: We'll get to this. Uh. She did become the mistress 346 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: of Henry the Second. Their affairs believed to have begun 347 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: when she was thirty five and when the king was sixteen. 348 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: For a time she was the most powerful woman in France, 349 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: even more powerful than the the legitimate queen. Then when 350 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: on re passed away in fifteen fifty nine, Uh, Diane 351 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: had a pretty precipitous fall from grace. She got banished 352 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: and eventually she died at the age of sixty six. 353 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Contemporary reports said that she looked 354 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: super young, like when she was fifty, she looked thirty. 355 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: Things like that, and they everybody kind of believed that 356 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: her secret was that she was drinking gold. Now, maybe 357 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 1: that sounds like a caddie rumor courtiers spread, But in 358 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: this case it turns out to be true. Right yeah. 359 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: I mean, at the very least, she wasn't getting accused 360 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: of like bathing in virgin's blood or anything like thoughts, 361 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, uh, because this is something that you know 362 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: was available. This was a pretty relatively known um concoction 363 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: that you could get in all of a lot of 364 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: the apothecaries, uh in the French court um because they 365 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: actually believe that gold harnessed the power of the sun 366 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: um uh and a lot of that comes from those 367 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: kind of alchemical notions of of of power in the substance. 368 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: Wasn't that what they called it? Bend? And they called 369 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: gold the substance. I like it. I it might, I 370 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: might just like the way you say it, But I say, 371 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: we'll go with it. Can you do it one more time? 372 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: The substance? It's kind of like articling my ears. That's beautiful. Now. 373 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: Of course, given the time frame, and given how much 374 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: time has passed between our podcast and and this, uh, 375 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: this poor woman's death, you would reasonably assume that this 376 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: would remain a rumor or an anecdote. However, we have 377 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: the benefit of some forensic science. You see, three scientists 378 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight actually solved the case of 379 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: Diane's death, and they did it in a somewhat grizzly way. 380 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think, little grizzily? I mean, 381 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: you know, it definitely involves some digging up of corpses. 382 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: You know enough time at past they were obviously just bones, 383 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: and they did just that in two thousand and eight. Uh, 384 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: this group of scientists unearthed the bones of Poitiers de 385 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: Poitiers and they were able to confirm that they were 386 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: in fact hers because the they matched up her jaw 387 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: bone to a portrait of her, and also one of 388 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: her leg bones had a perfect clean break from a 389 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: documented uh, writing accident, which is pretty interesting that that's 390 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good detective work there. And then they 391 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: actually had access to some of her hair, uh, from 392 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: a collection of her own hair that she kept. Knew 393 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: the palatial country home where she was exiled to it 394 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: sounds terrible, the Chateau Dayonnay, which was given to her 395 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: by Henri and Um. She was allowed to live out 396 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: her days there when Katherine de medici Um, who was 397 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: On's wife banished his mistress, and in measuring those hair samples, 398 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: they were able to find that it contained gold levels 399 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: five hundred times above normal tolerance. Is also a lot 400 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: of mercury traces in there um, which apparently was another 401 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: ingredient of this potion. So not uh, well, knowing what 402 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: we know now, ben, uh, pretty terrible combination there. Oh yeah, 403 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean just imagine five hundred times. Also, shout out 404 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: to everybody who's currently thinking of the etymology of matt 405 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: as a hatter. You mentioned haberdashers and mercury. So the 406 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: scientists team up with a guy who usually works in 407 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: hospital morgues and they conclusively identify Diane de Poitier's body 408 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: as you said, uh, and then they were able to 409 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: measure those chemical levels in her hair. And they also 410 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: noted that there is a scientific basis for the reason 411 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: that people might have said that she looked unusually young, 412 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: because this level of gold consumption can give you white 413 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: skin from anemia, it could give your fragile hair, bones 414 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: and teeth, and this is exactly the state she was 415 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: in when she passed away. We're getting some of this 416 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: from an excellent article and the Telegraph, and you know, 417 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: as you said she had been banished at Chateau before 418 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: she passed away. She was sixty six. It was fifteen 419 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: sixty six. She was originally buried in a really nice chapel, 420 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: but during the French Revolution her grave was desecrated. They 421 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: threw her in a in a you know, a common 422 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: or popper's grave, and that's why it took a pit. Yes, 423 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: that's wild. I gotta say, ben, Given the time, and uh, obviously, 424 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, people life expectancy was not what it is today. 425 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: Sixty six seems pretty ripe old age, doesn't it. I 426 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: wonder how long she would have lived if she had 427 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: not been, you know, slow poisoning herself over decades and decades. 428 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: That's a good question, and I believe it's one that 429 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: we will have to endeavor to answer another day. But 430 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: it's so crazy. Dare I say it's ridiculous? People are 431 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: out here drinking gold. No, man, I'll tell you one thing. 432 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: We do know though, that youthful complexion that supposedly gave her, 433 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: which essentially was just being like super pale, was the 434 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: result of anemia. So you know, there are a better way? 435 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: Is there are better remedies to to keep that youthful 436 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: glow than to drink toxic chemicals. I think that's the 437 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: takeaway from today's episode. Yeah, and and in Gold's defense, 438 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: it has been used pharmaceutically in the treatment of rheumatism. 439 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: So you want to say it's not all complete woo 440 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: or pseudo science, But um, I don't know, man. You know, 441 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: as you know my aversion to metals, I I can't 442 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: imagine drinking gold. It's like for me, it's like how 443 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: you would imagine if you had to get in bed 444 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: and your bed had thirteen parrots in it every night 445 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: under the covers. And I'm so triggered right now, I 446 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: can't even my skin is literally crawling. Oh man, I 447 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't you know. I like some birds, and I wouldn't 448 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: even hop in that hot up in that bed. But 449 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: luckily we have the benefits of the modern day, both 450 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: in our understanding about the science and chemistry involved in 451 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 1: drinking or ingesting gold. We also have the benefit of 452 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: ornithology and knowing the parents do not belong in beds. Uh. 453 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: And as always, I feel like, just to be safe, 454 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: we should say this, guys, we are not medical professionals, 455 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: do not we haven't told anybody to drink gold, but 456 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: please please be mindful of it. You know, what is 457 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: it a hot take? If I say don't drink gold? 458 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: Is that a hot take? Oh? No, no, Ben, don't 459 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: drink gold. Don't put foreign objects in your nose, and 460 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: don't dig too deep with those Q tips. Guys. Come on, 461 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: I know it says you're not supposed to put him 462 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: in your ears, but we all do so. At least 463 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: exercise a little bit of restraint when you're jabbing around 464 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: in there. My p s A for the day. There 465 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: we go. Yes, the more, you know, because we love 466 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: to hear from you, and we love when you tune 467 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: into the show, and you need your ears to do 468 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: that most times. So this is another one for the 469 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History Books. Thanks as always to our super producer, 470 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: Casey Pegram, Thanks of course to our research associate Gabe Lousia. 471 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: Massive thanks to Christopher Haciotas who is here in spirit 472 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: with us as always watching over us like a Mufasa 473 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: in the sky. Uh. And then thanks to Jonathan Strickland 474 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: then his his dastardly alter ego, the Quister, who I 475 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: believe will be joining us one of these days for 476 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: a Quister Core edition. We canna call him the Course, 477 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: the Corsster. No, uh uh coren Ster. Maybe that extra syllable. 478 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, yeah, we are long overdue for 479 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: a Quister appearance. Uh, you know, just be behind the 480 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: curtain here, folks. Uh. The three of us were talking 481 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: off air and we kind of missed the guy, but 482 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: no one tell them that. Definitely not. We'll see you 483 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: next time. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit 484 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you 485 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows.