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Speaker 1: and yeah, we don't need to talk about last week.
Speaker 1: We can just move on. And I mean, you seem
Speaker 1: fine talking about last week, you love and talking about
Speaker 1: I'm Rachel Banna, joined as always by Great Rosenthal and
Speaker 1: the Pumpkin Spice Latte herself. She's looking good. Of all
Speaker 1: syd be a free win. But guys, it's not all
Speaker 1: fun games right now. Okay, we're a little sad no
Speaker 1: Patrick this week, but he's in our hearts and we
Speaker 1: have we kind of have Patrick spirit over here. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's also in our topic bars. He's made picks. He
Speaker 1: will be represented throughout the show, and I think a
Speaker 1: couple of stray Bon appearances. Is that a tease? Yes,
Speaker 1: it is. We will see which games he's picking, so
Speaker 1: low dot low. But guys, last week, did the other
Speaker 1: thirty teams play or was it just the Dolphins and
Speaker 1: the Ravens, because oh my god, that game was so
Speaker 1: fun And look, it's gonna happen from time to time.
Speaker 1: It happened last week. We all look like geniuses for
Speaker 1: three quarters Okay, let's not forget about those three quarters.
Speaker 1: And then too it must have gotten a text from
Speaker 1: Nick Saban and roll tied all over Baltimore. I mean,
Speaker 1: two Dolphins fans. That's the only game that happened. They
Speaker 1: were all up in our mentors. They're they're deserved. We
Speaker 1: all we all picked him. I told you my gut
Speaker 1: was against They deserve to be miserable going at people
Speaker 1: that picked against them right after all they wanted were
Speaker 1: three quarters of Kay, let's not forget about that. But
Speaker 1: we are human beings. I know I'm not perfect, Greg
Speaker 1: as whatever, It's fine. I'm coping with it. I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened there, but can we just appreciate what
Speaker 1: an amazing game that was? And speaking of the Dolphins
Speaker 1: game of the week, time to uh and Josh Allen
Speaker 1: top five in passing yards, both tied for the league
Speaker 1: lead with seven touchdown passes. The Bills have been unstoppable
Speaker 1: and both of their games and against Miami recently, Josh
Speaker 1: Allen has won seven in a row the Dolphins. No
Speaker 1: big deal, but those Dolphins teams didn't have Jail and Waddle.
Speaker 1: Okay and Tyree Hill. I feel like I want a
Speaker 1: waddle every time I say his name, throwing up, he
Speaker 1: signs on the way into the end zone. No, they
Speaker 1: did not. The Bills are favored in this one by
Speaker 1: six and a half. Five and a half. The lines moved.
Speaker 1: That's a little Steve Patrick likes them by four. He's
Speaker 1: going Buffalo thirty two to twenty eight. Greg, what do
Speaker 1: you think that line? I have a similar score thirty
Speaker 1: seven thirty four Bills. Because Josh Allen, we know he's
Speaker 1: been unkillable cyborg right now, but like he has been
Speaker 1: an unkillable cyborg every time he's ever played the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Even when the Bill's offense had some struggles, he was
Speaker 1: killing them thirty six points per game over the last
Speaker 1: three years against Miami. And people think, oh, well this
Speaker 1: is a new coaching step. Well, no, not really. On defense,
Speaker 1: it's the same group. He sees that blitz package coming
Speaker 1: twice a year. He knows what's coming and he has
Speaker 1: answers for it. And so Dolphins fans, I know you're
Speaker 1: gonna be all up, so you still don't believe in us. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be five and a half points. I
Speaker 1: have the Dolphins closer. I think to a plays well
Speaker 1: and it's the game of the week once again. But
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's too much. I agree with you on that,
Speaker 1: and I think he's too much by a full seven points.
Speaker 1: I have truly disrespect. So you can go after the
Speaker 1: over here. Just come after I don't even like pumpkins spice,
Speaker 1: but but come after me. Ultimately, I have a seven
Speaker 1: point win here. Why because I look at this Bills
Speaker 1: secondary and even though they're banged up right, we've got
Speaker 1: no tred Avious wife were potentially down. Jane Dane Jack's out,
Speaker 1: He's out right. This is a little bit different, however,
Speaker 1: this is still a unit that has produced at elite
Speaker 1: rates just six touchdowns to sixteen interceptions against downfield passes.
Speaker 1: Those are ten plus a yard attempts. They have a
Speaker 1: thirty eight point three passer rating allowed. Just so you know,
Speaker 1: if you throw the ball into the ground, you get
Speaker 1: like a forty pass. You're better off throwing the ball
Speaker 1: into the ground. And in secondary, so I think Leslie
Speaker 1: Fraser will have some answers here, and they have a
Speaker 1: bunch of depth. They did a nice job drafting for this.
Speaker 1: They understand Leslie Fraser should have a head coaching job
Speaker 1: I will say it over and over and over again
Speaker 1: until I am thinking this is going to be a
Speaker 1: coin flip. I am more excited about the total in
Speaker 1: this game because, like you said, the Bills defense is
Speaker 1: a little banged up. To h and Josh Allen. I
Speaker 1: think between them they have ten touchdowns in the last week. Like,
Speaker 1: these guys are insane. I have the Bills thirty one
Speaker 1: to thirty though, Like I feel like this either way,
Speaker 1: I totally agree that this is the game of the week.
Speaker 1: But you know, Greg, we were talking before the show,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, you can look at the numbers
Speaker 1: and and try to be as smart as you can,
Speaker 1: but why don't you just go with what you want
Speaker 1: to happen? And I want chaos to happen. I want
Speaker 1: the score to be that close. Here's what I don't want, though,
Speaker 1: is another mem tweet coming at us. Why do you Okay, well,
Speaker 1: let me say this. I love the Dolphins. They are
Speaker 1: so exciting, and you know what, I'll switch it into
Speaker 1: her baby. It's a loanetta. Now, it's a loanetta. Go
Speaker 1: Dolphins Go. I thought it was going to be a
Speaker 1: coin flip, but you know what, I'm rooting for chaos.
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for touchdowns. The defense can take the day
Speaker 1: off as far as I'm concerned, I want McDaniel rolling
Speaker 1: up in his Lamborghini or what a Lancy car he has.
Speaker 1: I'm into the chaos. Okay, this time for this guy
Speaker 1: or that guy. Two had six touchdowns week, Okay, Allen
Speaker 1: had four, ten total touchdowns. Do you think either of
Speaker 1: these guys throws for four on Sunday? No, I don't
Speaker 1: come on the Pumpkins spot killer of fun. Just too
Speaker 1: many for either person. But I will say I am
Speaker 1: more likely to see four total touchdowns. Maybe one is
Speaker 1: on the ground, not necessarily through the air. For Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: who has been absolutely insane using play action so far
Speaker 1: this season. Five touchdowns and about an eight percent completion
Speaker 1: rate there for him, So when I look at Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: is probably a bit more likely. And I can't believe
Speaker 1: we got through this whole thing without talking about von Miller.
Speaker 1: So part of the reason why is because I think
Speaker 1: that two is gonna be under significantly more pressure and
Speaker 1: it's going to be a lot harder for him to
Speaker 1: operate against Vaughan and company. Every time we say this
Speaker 1: is the game of the week scoring, it's like one
Speaker 1: touchdown each for both teams, Like four is for 's
Speaker 1: a lot. We're not that lucky. Okay, well I'm kind
Speaker 1: of what we're talking and we're done talking about this game.
Speaker 1: But you know what else we have got to bring
Speaker 1: us back e d and Rogers. We are spoiled in
Speaker 1: week three, just when you thought that we couldn't get
Speaker 1: better Packers Bucks. Not only does Patrick have the Packers covering,
Speaker 1: he's got them winning. What about he moved by Patrick?
Speaker 1: He gets to go first with every pit, you know,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't have to show this game. I have
Speaker 1: faith in this Todd Bowles defense. I have a four
Speaker 1: to one. Look, this is a Todd Bulls show. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've been enjoying the Bulls for a few years. And
Speaker 1: you know what he loves more than anything is great
Speaker 1: defensive backs. Jamal Dean is playing like an All Pro.
Speaker 1: They gave that money to Carlton Davis because he plays
Speaker 1: so physical. They're making great players on the ball, Antoine Winfield,
Speaker 1: every position here is so good in the secondary that
Speaker 1: it frees Todd up to just really bowls it out,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just like go crazy with
Speaker 1: those blitz package just to stay up till three in
Speaker 1: the morning creating those schemes because he knows they got
Speaker 1: covered in the back end. And I think without Sammy
Speaker 1: Watkins in this game for Green Bay, they're not going
Speaker 1: to be worried about what's happening in man coverage. I
Speaker 1: think the secondary of the Bucks wins it for him.
Speaker 1: I mean, Todd Boels is also masterful at stopping the run,
Speaker 1: which is probably even a bigger key to this one. However,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's enough. I think in this game,
Speaker 1: Packers win in a surprise. Who is actually playing for
Speaker 1: Tom Brady? Unfortunately, there without a lot of people that
Speaker 1: are important, and Tom Brady has a bit of a
Speaker 1: trend early in this season. He likes to target his
Speaker 1: slot guys. You know who's not here. You know he's
Speaker 1: not here, Chris Godwin. You know who else is not here,
Speaker 1: Mike Evans. So without these options, if you look to see,
Speaker 1: by the way, zero touchdowns and one interception to slot
Speaker 1: receivers so far this season. Last season, five touchdowns, zero
Speaker 1: interceptions through the first two games. So that interior that
Speaker 1: I can I interest you in a little. Cole Beasley
Speaker 1: off the practice squad. He slid into Tom Brady's d
Speaker 1: MS right onto the film. You know what, Yep, you can,
Speaker 1: you can. I'll see him out there. I will listen.
Speaker 1: I will listen to you. But I don't think that
Speaker 1: will be enough. And I do think that this Green
Speaker 1: Bay defense will look a little bit more like we
Speaker 1: saw against the Bears. We too or you know than
Speaker 1: I had this game way closer and I changed my
Speaker 1: score this morning. I'm going bucks, thank you. You know.
Speaker 1: Brady started this season, He's like, I'm not practicing on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna spend my time with my family. Guess
Speaker 1: who's at practice on Wednesday. Tom Brady. Okay, he is
Speaker 1: preparing for this game. Aaron Rodgers versus Tom Brady, goat
Speaker 1: versus goat. It is going to be so funny. I
Speaker 1: know that the beginning of the season, Aaron Rodgers was
Speaker 1: just like, I'm gonna give my offense some time to
Speaker 1: figure it out, but eventually they're gonna have to figure
Speaker 1: it out. Last week, Aaron Jones turned into a wide back.
Speaker 1: He had a rushing touchdown, he had a receiving touchdown,
Speaker 1: but other than that, how many options does he have?
Speaker 1: I still want to watch this offense for a couple
Speaker 1: more weeks, and I'm gonna rely on the goat Tom
Speaker 1: Brady to win this one. You know, I watched the
Speaker 1: two of them, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers played golf together,
Speaker 1: and you did who work? I did work that Aaron
Speaker 1: sunk that put holy like deck I was. But you
Speaker 1: know who's won a lot of more meaningful football games,
Speaker 1: including against talking Brady. Oh, let's go Bay, Let's go
Speaker 1: down Brady. Okay, you can use NFL plus to listen
Speaker 1: to our guy. M j D called the Rams Cardinal
Speaker 1: game on Sunday. The Rams are a three and a
Speaker 1: half point favorite on the road. Patrick likes them by
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Sent are you going big on the Rams
Speaker 1: as well? Would you like? I think that the Rams win,
Speaker 1: but I think that they keep it closer. I think
Speaker 1: it's twenty six to four. That's what often fun. The
Speaker 1: model always loves the Cardinals. I've noticed over the year.
Speaker 1: Who won last week? The Cardinals? They come back. Well. Look.
Speaker 1: Part of the reason why but I have the Rams
Speaker 1: winning is because if Matthew Stafford against the Blitz, no
Speaker 1: quarterback has been stronger against the blitzince the beginning of
Speaker 1: last season a one nine point to pass a rating.
Speaker 1: You know what inexplicably happened the first week, Well, smart
Speaker 1: of the Bills not to blitz at all, right, it
Speaker 1: really works. And then Arizona they decided to blitz Kansas
Speaker 1: City over time that didn't make any sense, right, So
Speaker 1: if they keep blitzing, it's going to be a long
Speaker 1: day for the Cardinals defense. So I think what happens
Speaker 1: here is they smarten up a little bit. They don't blitz,
Speaker 1: They dropped back into coverage and we see Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: have to still use Cooper Cup. Still a monstrous game
Speaker 1: for both of those two, but be a little bit
Speaker 1: smarter when it comes to I'm a little worried when
Speaker 1: the model has the game so close and I don't
Speaker 1: because ms winning this game comfortably, but by ten points.
Speaker 1: And it's partly because of Sean McVeigh. You know, he
Speaker 1: owns the Cardinal. He is six and one against Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 1: They've scored more than thirty points in five of those games.
Speaker 1: And you know, when you're at a job for a
Speaker 1: while and it's like he's already been to the top
Speaker 1: of the mountain. You need new challenges like Cynthia, it's like,
Speaker 1: you used to do one million simulations, Now what do
Speaker 1: you do? Three million simulations? Right? Like you just need
Speaker 1: a new challenge. Like that was Sean McVeigh a week
Speaker 1: ago with his fullback Bobby square Neck and you're like, oh, fullback.
Speaker 1: I thought that I was a wide receiver. No, he's
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five pounds and he put him
Speaker 1: at fullback for the first five plays of the game
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, that's just kind of cute. Like
Speaker 1: they weren't all like massive places. If you look at
Speaker 1: the yards for play when square Nick was at fullback
Speaker 1: compared to all the rest of the players in the game,
Speaker 1: and it was nineteen snaps. It was not a small
Speaker 1: amount of snaps. They were really effective and the Falcons
Speaker 1: didn't know what hit him. And what I mean in
Speaker 1: the larger ski the things, it's like he's face still
Speaker 1: getting inspired by the game of what happening, feeling like
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. The offense was doing fine, they're putting up
Speaker 1: points and they'll put up points. Did you just want
Speaker 1: to like flex somebody that you knew how to say
Speaker 1: the full back to name, I said it wrong. I
Speaker 1: think that like different every single time I went. I'm
Speaker 1: with you, though, Greg, I've got the Rams winning by
Speaker 1: a larger number than what Sins got. But you know,
Speaker 1: last week they looked kind of a mess against the
Speaker 1: Falcons of Holcons almost came back and one that game.
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh after the game, in his postgame press conference said,
Speaker 1: I need several drinks after that happened. So I do
Speaker 1: think that they're going to come back with a vengeance.
Speaker 1: But then you also have to take into account the
Speaker 1: Cardinals winning that game in the way they did that
Speaker 1: was like a spank on the bum, Like that is
Speaker 1: the kind of game and the kind of win that
Speaker 1: like gets a team like pumped up, like let's go,
Speaker 1: We've got this. Now we're back into a rhythm. So
Speaker 1: I could see this game being close. But I just dotort, like,
Speaker 1: do you put a do you have a spank on
Speaker 1: the bump into Do you put that into your computer?
Speaker 1: That's a different model. Okay, let's my little this guy
Speaker 1: or that guy. I Greg, you're up this time. Both
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks had bounce back games last week. Do you
Speaker 1: think either of them throws for three touchdowns this week?
Speaker 1: We've got Matt Stafford and three is a lot. But yes,
Speaker 1: I think Matthew Stafford can do it in this matchup,
Speaker 1: not only because my daughter Ellis needs it for fantasy.
Speaker 1: Let's pick it up Stafford. The matchup is great. It's
Speaker 1: why I picked the Rams, not just because Sean mcveigh's inspired.
Speaker 1: This Cardinals defense, to me is a mess. They just
Speaker 1: don't have enough talent and I think they're searching for
Speaker 1: high risk strategies where they send a lot of blitz
Speaker 1: is or they change it up play to play, and
Speaker 1: like that can't work game after game, and they've shown
Speaker 1: Rahee Morris does not have the answer for Sean McVeigh
Speaker 1: over the years. What do you think? I do actually
Speaker 1: think that Matthew Stafford has a very big game. I
Speaker 1: don't know about to be honest with you, I don't
Speaker 1: know about three, but I do think that it is
Speaker 1: a really large like it's it's a very significant game.
Speaker 1: Like if you play DFS, you would be loading up
Speaker 1: lots of shares of Matthew Stafford and Cooper cup. Let's
Speaker 1: just hope it's better than the one that they played
Speaker 1: last year, because that was a stinker. Okay, you know
Speaker 1: who I helped throws from nine touchdowns because he is back,
Speaker 1: and it's all sense, but Jimmy J. Welcome back, Jimmy
Speaker 1: go around below. I try to build all this hype
Speaker 1: for Jimmy and here comes Patrick. What were you gonna? Says?
Speaker 1: Already picking again? And the body isn't even cold with
Speaker 1: Tray Lance a little respect for him, No, we do respect.
Speaker 1: We love Tray Lens on the show. Lets get a
Speaker 1: little excited for Jimmy G. What is Patrick hab? I
Speaker 1: didn't see his score of Patrick's going with the Broncos.
Speaker 1: I believe Cynthia, What do you like this one? I
Speaker 1: want to talk about Jimmy G and the fact that
Speaker 1: they're Super Bowl chances just increased with Jimmy G. Jimmy
Speaker 1: G being back is a good thing. Why play action
Speaker 1: and intermediate passes? You know who's really good intermediate passes?
Speaker 1: That'd be Jimmy G. When I look to also see
Speaker 1: where the weaknesses of this Broncos defense are. Typically I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say this, but they're missing Justin Simmons. That's a
Speaker 1: big safety miss that's not there. And pats Her Tan
Speaker 1: is banged up. Pats Her Tan is an awesome corner
Speaker 1: and they don't have him, and that's gonna be good
Speaker 1: things for I believe George Kittle is back, that's the
Speaker 1: last thing I thought. And Deebo Samuel as well. So
Speaker 1: if those intermediate passes are where he has that zing,
Speaker 1: that is his bread and butter, especially using play actions.
Speaker 1: So it's a good Jimmy G return get I don't
Speaker 1: know about nine touchdowns feels like a little much like
Speaker 1: I like Jimmy I like Jimmy GI, but when did
Speaker 1: he become like an exciting quarter? He's a nice guy bowl. Okay,
Speaker 1: you almost took them like a fracture. Okay, You're also
Speaker 1: is good, but Jimmy G is not. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: the forty Niners win this game, but it's not because
Speaker 1: of Jimmy G. And they would have been fine with
Speaker 1: trade lines. They're gonna win it because of Nick Bosa
Speaker 1: and Ebo com and Arik Armstead. Hopefully he plays in
Speaker 1: this game. He has banged up in Javon Russell. Wilson
Speaker 1: has gotten protected quite well through two weeks, right like
Speaker 1: the Broncos offensive line quietly has been awesome for him.
Speaker 1: But it's because of the matchups. Now you're going to
Speaker 1: play a big boy defense. The forty Niners got after Gina.
Speaker 1: I think this is a hurtful tape that they're showing
Speaker 1: me though they're like, oh, look how many times they
Speaker 1: sacked Gino. It was ugly, But I really think they're
Speaker 1: the best front seven in the entire NFL, and they're
Speaker 1: going to get after. Explain to me how you love Gino,
Speaker 1: but like you're on Jimmy Geno, Gino's a lovable character,
Speaker 1: Jimmy's love. I'm just saying I want Gino to get
Speaker 1: the experiences, the chances. Okay, well, I've actually got some
Speaker 1: tape to show you that I think you'll buy in more.
Speaker 1: I am going forty Niners. I'm going for twenty four.
Speaker 1: Look at what happened when Jimmy g came back into
Speaker 1: the game. Look At how excited everyone is and how
Speaker 1: pumped everyone feels. No matter what you think about Jimmy,
Speaker 1: you gotta listen to what the locker room is saying.
Speaker 1: They love him. He has been there for what six
Speaker 1: years now, Kyle Shannon, I know he has been on
Speaker 1: and off and saying that he's in and saying that
Speaker 1: he's out, and the off season was weird. Look at
Speaker 1: Kiddle excited, like this is a team that's gonna have
Speaker 1: fun for the rest of the season. And like I said,
Speaker 1: he took him to the Super Bowl, he almost took
Speaker 1: him to a second one with a banged up hand,
Speaker 1: throwing hand. Mind you buy in? Come on, okay, come in?
Speaker 1: Thank you alright? Time for the Drive to Excellence presented
Speaker 1: by Mercedes Bens. You heard Rich said, Jimmy's back. Rich
Speaker 1: Bonden never would argue with Rich. Hey, good news. With
Speaker 1: the Titans and Raiders, somebody's gotta win, right Well, actually,
Speaker 1: I guess not, because the Titans are in the a
Speaker 1: f C South and teams have been known to play
Speaker 1: four ties. Don't you do it, Mike Rable, don't do
Speaker 1: it to us, have some self respect. The Raiders are favored.
Speaker 1: Patrick doesn't care. He has taken the Titans seventeen. Don't
Speaker 1: I don't have a tie. Although I did flip my
Speaker 1: pick midweek not mid show like you did in the
Speaker 1: A Block. I'm going yes, and I enjoyed it. Raiders
Speaker 1: win this game. I just think they're better. Like yes,
Speaker 1: the Titans like always get it together here and have
Speaker 1: surprising wins when they have a lot of injuries. And
Speaker 1: they do there without Taylor Lawan. But if you look
Speaker 1: at their running game right now and what they're Henry
Speaker 1: is not doing, it's like an identity crisis. It's like
Speaker 1: the Titans have been one way forever, right, and it's like,
Speaker 1: this is who we are. We're big, strong man getting
Speaker 1: off the bus. We look better than every team getting
Speaker 1: off the bus. We're just gonna push you around and
Speaker 1: eventually we're gonna push you to the ground. And it's
Speaker 1: just like not working anywhere. They don't have a j Brown.
Speaker 1: The defense, especially in the acken to me as a mess,
Speaker 1: and Derrick Henry can't look like Derrick Henry when the
Speaker 1: offensive line is getting beaten play after play. And I
Speaker 1: watched this Raiders team and I know they found wades
Speaker 1: to lose, but I think, like, this is a pretty
Speaker 1: good team. This should be a making you like I
Speaker 1: have the opposite. I have a tie. It's not a
Speaker 1: tie in favor of the Titans, which actually surprised me
Speaker 1: a little bit, mostly because when I look to see
Speaker 1: what happens to Derek Carr when he is pressured, and
Speaker 1: then I see Jeffrey Simmons coming, and I think about
Speaker 1: all the days where you talk about that high risk,
Speaker 1: high reward defense is not having a lot of luck necessarily.
Speaker 1: You talked about that with the Cardinals actually here, and
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of the opposite. I think that
Speaker 1: when Davonte Adams gets shut down and Kevin Byard is good,
Speaker 1: he's maybe a bit underrated in terms of safety play. Overall.
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a lot harder challenge with
Speaker 1: a bunch of pressure for Derek Carr than it seems,
Speaker 1: and they need a little bit of that run game.
Speaker 1: So I think we do see the return of kind
Speaker 1: of normal Derrick Henry situations. Normal Derrick Henry sort of
Speaker 1: numbers in this one. Yeah, because I've been waiting for
Speaker 1: him to heat up. What I know, he had a
Speaker 1: touchdown last week, but he had what it was like
Speaker 1: on a very short yart. It was crazy. Is this
Speaker 1: one of the circumstances that your model is saying something
Speaker 1: but your gut is telling you something else. It is.
Speaker 1: I just for whatever reason, I just feel like it's
Speaker 1: going to be very hard. Like I look at this
Speaker 1: Raiders team and I'm like, you know, a high risk,
Speaker 1: high reward like it's either going to go you know,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have one of those deep plays connecting Davonte
Speaker 1: Adams will have like three touchdowns and something crazy. That's
Speaker 1: what my gut tells me. But the math goes with
Speaker 1: the vibes will be terrible, and last week the vibes
Speaker 1: will be terrible. Okay, I'm going Raiders twenty if they
Speaker 1: lose this game. You said, we were talking before the show,
Speaker 1: and we said, this is like a game that either
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry absolutely goes off or balls out, or also
Speaker 1: Davante Adams could absolutely go off and ball out. I
Speaker 1: have a close I'm not super stoked about this one.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of a stay away. But
Speaker 1: I'm the Raiders, okay, and it's time for another this
Speaker 1: guy or that guy. Not great weeks for Davante Adams
Speaker 1: and Derrick Henry. As we were just saying last week.
Speaker 1: Didn't someone say on this show last week the Davontae
Speaker 1: Adams was going to have a huge game, was you?
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't remember, say okay, okay, anyways, which
Speaker 1: one of these guys scores on Sunday? Look, I would
Speaker 1: have thought Davante Adams had a huge game too, but
Speaker 1: it's not what happened. However, I do think that Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry has a nice opportunity here to score. He is
Speaker 1: their short yardage red area guy. This is the one
Speaker 1: that they rely on. He did have a touchdown. You
Speaker 1: pointed it out against the Bills, and they're very, very
Speaker 1: difficult defense for the most part that Monday game. You
Speaker 1: have to throw out like three quarters of the data
Speaker 1: from that game because remember case Keena even went in there,
Speaker 1: so it was not like they were playing a very
Speaker 1: competitive one here. So in my opinion, Derrick Henry has
Speaker 1: over a hundred on the ground and then he has
Speaker 1: a touchdown at least. Do you feel any which way
Speaker 1: about this. I'm not trusting Derrick Henry right now. And
Speaker 1: it's like or their line. There's no Luan, there's injuries.
Speaker 1: They don't feel like they played without Luan a lot
Speaker 1: last year too, so they'll be all right. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: we are all in agreement on six games this week.
Speaker 1: Everyone is riding to say six. Okay, the Chiefs, which
Speaker 1: probably says much about them as it does. I have
Speaker 1: a closer one with the Chiefs. In the Colts, I think, okay,
Speaker 1: already covered the Bills. We're all back in Baltimore's corner.
Speaker 1: The Bengals have to win eventually, right two games though,
Speaker 1: I think the Jets could be a little spicy here.
Speaker 1: We're nine six and one. That's not good. That's not good.
Speaker 1: That's actually really bad. I mean the favorites are we
Speaker 1: need to do better, we need more workouts. No, thank you.
Speaker 1: We're also in agreement on the Eagles over the Commander.
Speaker 1: Is Greg your preseason picked to win the SuperH Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got them covering and winning by ten. Sin has
Speaker 1: them by eight. That Mania Patrick has them by two,
Speaker 1: and you've got them by touchdown. I've got to buy seven.
Speaker 1: Because the Commanders are kind of frisky here, especially when
Speaker 1: they've trail in games. We saw them come back against
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. We saw them come back against the lines
Speaker 1: and score a lot of points. But ultimately, I don't
Speaker 1: think their defense and all the communication issues that they
Speaker 1: had a week ago is going to be able to
Speaker 1: stand up to Jalen Hurts and this offense. Because this
Speaker 1: Eagles offense tests your communication. There's different options on every play,
Speaker 1: whether it's a run or whether it's a hass. You
Speaker 1: have so many guys in the box trying to stop
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. These are highlights. It makes me happy. It's
Speaker 1: been a while. Okay, Well, so Jalen Hurts did it
Speaker 1: with his arm and his legs a week ago. Will
Speaker 1: he do it again this week? I think technically my
Speaker 1: answer is like no because it's too so two through
Speaker 1: the air and one on the ground. So yeah, he'll
Speaker 1: do it, but then he'll improve upon that as well.
Speaker 1: I think Jalen Hurts is showing us a really strong
Speaker 1: outing one too now three times, perhaps an early m
Speaker 1: v P. Look here, if you want to pivot off
Speaker 1: the Josh was telling people take him in the first
Speaker 1: round of fantasy. They're like, no, no, you can't take quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Come on, well, why would you have taken in the
Speaker 1: first round of a fantasy draft if you could have
Speaker 1: gotten him later, Because you just take who you want
Speaker 1: be happy in life. The fantasy them, well, I'm a
Speaker 1: fantasy expert and I know a few things, so all right,
Speaker 1: we are also taking the Bengals, but this spread is
Speaker 1: five and a half. I am taking the Bengals to win,
Speaker 1: but I actually like the Jets to keep it close.
Speaker 1: This was another spank on the um win you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Last week this is I need to
Speaker 1: trademark this spank on the ball. I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: else has listen to this available. Joe Burrows deleted his
Speaker 1: Instagram is Twitter. I think he's in his head a
Speaker 1: little bit. I think that the social media, the people
Speaker 1: are getting to him. I don't love that he's young,
Speaker 1: he's he's influenced by other things. So I feel like
Speaker 1: the Jets kind of keep this close. I want the
Speaker 1: Bengals too when I wanted. I want this team to
Speaker 1: get on track. There's so much fun, Like Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: is one of the leaders in passing yardage so far.
Speaker 1: It could be there's two quarterbacks that a throw for
Speaker 1: three hundred yards at least in each week, Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz, just like we all drew it up.
Speaker 1: I don't want to live in a world where the
Speaker 1: Bengals and three though they're too Like, what's gonna happen? Gregg,
Speaker 1: You've got the Ravens beating the Patriots, But I see
Speaker 1: a Patriots cover with that school. I think the Patriots
Speaker 1: showed us something last week at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: the way they ran the ball against Pittsburgh. The new
Speaker 1: scheme is starting to work, and the way that the
Speaker 1: Ravens secondary totally collapsed. They're playing three rookies. We think
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters is Marcus Peters because it's got the name
Speaker 1: on the back of the jersey. But he hasn't played
Speaker 1: in the year and a half. Come en off a
Speaker 1: big injury, Marlon Humphreys banged up. And I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: in a league where everyone is playing too deep safeties,
Speaker 1: teams that can run like your Lions, Cynthia, and be
Speaker 1: my Patriots, Eventually, I think it will be a little
Speaker 1: better than people think. It'll be close. N I do
Speaker 1: like the Ravens. When I look at this matchup and
Speaker 1: I look to see who's going to score the touchdown,
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be. You have to remember
Speaker 1: the Patriots secondary is not the normal Patriots secondary record,
Speaker 1: so it's both secondaries here a little vulnerable. So maybe
Speaker 1: like a nice Bateman touchdown. I like it. I like it. Alright,
Speaker 1: time for a quick picks. It's enough with all the agreement, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's time to mix things up a bit. Texans Bears
Speaker 1: a Texas. Oh, I'm taking the text and I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is just Greg you know, who's a three and
Speaker 1: oh and picks this year just Gregg. That's right. Every
Speaker 1: time I'm on my own with an underdog and they
Speaker 1: come through. Justin Fields has completed eight passes this year
Speaker 1: ahead of the line of screwing. There's so few we
Speaker 1: could actually rolled the whole tape. This is his entire
Speaker 1: season of passes past the line of script. You can't
Speaker 1: win in the in the NFL that way. They ran
Speaker 1: at sixty four times and passed it twenty eight. It's silly.
Speaker 1: I think the Texans are a little frisky, and you
Speaker 1: do have a very close game. I know, I like
Speaker 1: how I acted like it was such a big deal,
Speaker 1: but just how dare you pick against Chicago Bears. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to poke Greg a little bit, But I
Speaker 1: think this is a huge David Montgomery game. To be
Speaker 1: honest with you, I think it's less about the passing
Speaker 1: necessity and I think it's more about Big David mon
Speaker 1: like fantasy David Montgomery. That is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: ones for the entire You guys, better hope the Bears
Speaker 1: win this game, just because you're going to be insufferable.
Speaker 1: Gets the four. He's going to be insufferable Okay, now
Speaker 1: it is your turns in. How about the Lions and Vikings.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you why you're doing this to yourself?
Speaker 1: Are you? I thought you were a proud Michigander. You've
Speaker 1: lived through a lot of bad days as a Lions fan,
Speaker 1: enjoy this. I don't choose with my heart. I choose
Speaker 1: with the math and oh you're smart. This is not
Speaker 1: what I like. The Lions win, absolutely, but when I
Speaker 1: look at when I look at this point, I think
Speaker 1: this is justin Jefferson. He goes off for multiple touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I'm doing you right, that's really I thought that was
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell that was so like masculine and strong. You've
Speaker 1: just literally did the same thing. Greg, You have a
Speaker 1: very high scoring game here. What's that about? Hey, look
Speaker 1: at us picking the Lions here as heavy underdog Rachel,
Speaker 1: I think they're made for high scoring games. They're so
Speaker 1: aggressive defensively and monros st Brown he's getting done DeAndre Swift, Like,
Speaker 1: I think this is the you have to admit as
Speaker 1: a Lions fan. This is the first time in a
Speaker 1: long time I think they have a weekly advantage schematically
Speaker 1: because of their coaches. I think that's a great coaching staff.
Speaker 1: I'm all in on the coaching staff. Unfortunately, the players
Speaker 1: have to play the game. Okay, Seahawks Falcons? Hey, Greg,
Speaker 1: how are you? How are you doing down? Do you know?
Speaker 1: One is Super Bowl Week one? I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys saw it the most swats like Monday night
Speaker 1: football game. Evero he love Geno Smith on this show.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about it after this. Don't go anywhere
Speaker 1: and Tig and Jimmy before let's do the as earlier,
Speaker 1: I wasn't done talking Bills Dalphins. If you've got the
Speaker 1: wide receivers in this game, start them. Were you on
Speaker 1: the fence about that? Probably not if you were considered
Speaker 1: not being in a fantasy league again next year. Senior
Speaker 1: a bit lower on the jail and Waddle of it
Speaker 1: all than FanDuel. Yeah, it's those deep passes. Now. I
Speaker 1: want to point out Tyreek Hill is number one in
Speaker 1: the NFL in yards after the catch, and then number
Speaker 1: two is actually also Jalen Waddle teammates. So it's really
Speaker 1: interesting that both of them are in such elite company. However,
Speaker 1: I think that it is a different piast when it
Speaker 1: comes to this Bill's defense. You have all that pressure
Speaker 1: up front, and I don't necessarily think it's going to
Speaker 1: be quite the same day in terms of production for
Speaker 1: a guy like Waddle who doesn't have kind of the
Speaker 1: same situation with speed as a Tyree Hill who has
Speaker 1: all of that experience. So it's it's no slight to him.
Speaker 1: It's it's a pro to the bill's defense. Greg, were
Speaker 1: you just bragging with the fact on commercial break that
Speaker 1: you've actually like perfected the wattle? Do you care to show?
Speaker 1: I never said Okay, over under? Enough about that here
Speaker 1: the biggest over unders of the week three games over
Speaker 1: fifty points? What happened? There were six games over fifty
Speaker 1: points last week? What does that mean? Absolutely nothing. It's
Speaker 1: just a math I did before the show. So we've
Speaker 1: got Lions, have Vikings, bills that Dolphins. You can get
Speaker 1: the picture. We've got two games left that we haven't
Speaker 1: hit on Falcon Seahawks is one of them. The over
Speaker 1: under his look, we have new stuff. I have got
Speaker 1: the under here, I believe, Greg, what do you have?
Speaker 1: I also am going under eighteen to seventeen is going
Speaker 1: to be the final score of every Seahawks game or
Speaker 1: something close to it. There's no way this thing's going over.
Speaker 1: They love long, slow drives that means low scorings, and
Speaker 1: somebody like I like the over on this one. I
Speaker 1: have twenty one, So Falcons win on in this matchup?
Speaker 1: Why well, when I look at my guy Cordarrel Patterson
Speaker 1: and he has a great opportunity here and they give
Speaker 1: up role yep, top three in rushing yards given up
Speaker 1: to running backs and receptions given up to running backs
Speaker 1: along with receiving yards given up to running back. Carroll
Speaker 1: did say? Carroll did say this week, like you say,
Speaker 1: Ross cooks and Genal spent, you can't you got a button?
Speaker 1: Is the kitchen in Seattle? Because then wouldn't the person
Speaker 1: who's in Seattle be the person who cooks. I'm very confused, okay,
Speaker 1: And Patrick's going under the last game of week three,
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, Cowboys Giants the soon to be three
Speaker 1: and oh Giants, can it be? I think they went
Speaker 1: to plus seventeen equals I good job. I'm going under, Greg,
Speaker 1: What do you like? IM sticking at under. I think
Speaker 1: this could be way under. I think this could be
Speaker 1: like no touchdowns scored. I have fourteen to nine in
Speaker 1: this game. You know, if we're going with the score prediction.
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons in the house that Lawrence Taylor built, to me,
Speaker 1: is the best sad dresser we've seen come into the
Speaker 1: league since then, and it could be one of those
Speaker 1: primetime games where they just spend the last hour talking
Speaker 1: about Michael Parsons's just that good. I think that it's
Speaker 1: gonna be in this So that's forty one, So I'm
Speaker 1: I guess I'm an over in this one. Interestingly enough,
Speaker 1: the one goes to the Giants and the twenty goes
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys, and his offense has quietly been a
Speaker 1: hot mess. I know there are two and no, but like,
Speaker 1: that's one of the worst two game stretches of Dan.
Speaker 1: Did you guys see the Jerry Jones interview that happened
Speaker 1: this week. He's just like, if there was a quarterback dilemma,
Speaker 1: I would love that, And then Mike McCarthy was just like,
Speaker 1: there's no quarterback dilemma. Jacks are Dacks are quarterback. Let's
Speaker 1: stop talking about this. And then Patrick also has the
Speaker 1: under as well. Anything can happen in this league, which
Speaker 1: is why there are some games this weekend that are
Speaker 1: giving us pause. Let's call it in the air. Shall
Speaker 1: we greg half the games are within three points on
Speaker 1: Vanduel this week? What is a game you went back
Speaker 1: and forth on this week? I feel like there's already
Speaker 1: plenty we've been talking. I know, I talked about a few,
Speaker 1: and I'm actually going with one that I believe that
Speaker 1: six and a half. And where I'm going back and
Speaker 1: forth is that number. I know Eagles fans are just
Speaker 1: looking at this matchup and thinking it's gonna be easy see,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, And I'm just talking about the
Speaker 1: number I think will enjoy this win, but just enjoy
Speaker 1: the wind. Don't necessarily expect it to be by at
Speaker 1: least a touchdown because of that Commander's offense, which is
Speaker 1: really aggressive and really hard to defend. It's a short
Speaker 1: week for Philadelphia. They're on the road here, they're coming
Speaker 1: off a prime time high, and like I said, I
Speaker 1: think if the Commanders fall down a couple of scores,
Speaker 1: they could sneak in the back door at the very end.
Speaker 1: So I have a hard time knowing who's gonna win
Speaker 1: it in terms of the margin. To stay away and
Speaker 1: enjoy the game. If you go, don't forget cars like
Speaker 1: you are a word Smith I'd really like threatening that
Speaker 1: really you really are a word like that's impressive. That
Speaker 1: was like, really you were? You were really showing your
Speaker 1: chops there, Cynthia. What's your calling in the air. I'm
Speaker 1: not anywhere here is eloquent as my friend Greg here,
Speaker 1: But I think both here actually picking the Texans and
Speaker 1: I have the Bears, but I think this game could
Speaker 1: go either way. Brandon Cooks when I look to see
Speaker 1: how efficient he's been, like people forget about him for fantasy,
Speaker 1: and I'm a fantasy experts, so we should obviously be
Speaker 1: telling people what's going on with fantasy. But when I
Speaker 1: look at this game and I look at this matchup,
Speaker 1: both defenses have had some strengths and vulnerabilities, and then
Speaker 1: both offenses have shown me a lot of interesting looks.
Speaker 1: So I don't feel comfortable picking one. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: seen Davis Mills play really well. I've seen not so much.
Speaker 1: I've seen the old line let them down for both teams.
Speaker 1: So this one feels about his coin flippy as against
Speaker 1: I totally agree, and like I picked the Texans and
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm excited by myself on it because to me,
Speaker 1: it's a coin flip game. So I'm glad that the
Speaker 1: three of you are. This is a game to stay
Speaker 1: away from. I'm going to talk about the Chargers Jags
Speaker 1: game just for the record. A lot of people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: you picked the Chargers to be your new team, yet
Speaker 1: you haven't picked them to win at all. Ever, I
Speaker 1: had the Chargers going into this one, but I just
Speaker 1: think there are too many question marks about the health
Speaker 1: health of their quarterback. I think maybe by the time
Speaker 1: you're watching this justin Herbert's either plan or he's not.
Speaker 1: It's not looking good right now. I just want to say,
Speaker 1: what a boss that he stayed in this game and
Speaker 1: kept on playing even though he was clear he was
Speaker 1: extremely eat hurt. This just makes me want to buy
Speaker 1: into this team and this kid even more. He just
Speaker 1: loves this game so much, and he stayed in it.
Speaker 1: They couldn't win it. I mean, I guess they didn't
Speaker 1: have any chance to win the game, and now he
Speaker 1: is questionable for this week. Sometimes you gotta be a
Speaker 1: little smarter charge take him out for sure, but didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just love this game too. They
Speaker 1: both could come down to the wires That leaves staying
Speaker 1: away I'm staying away, charges, I love you. Last week
Speaker 1: showed us that nobody knows anything. Okay, well accept the
Speaker 1: three of us because we're experts. So get out your notebooks,
Speaker 1: get out your pens. Does anyone have a pen and
Speaker 1: paper at home anymore? Right on your phone whatever, it's
Speaker 1: time to write this sounding you know what about something
Speaker 1: to write down. Don't trust our producers. They are rude
Speaker 1: and actually very mean. Huh inter resting. Okay, so we
Speaker 1: had about a week. Yeah, well you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna let that stop us from doing it again.
Speaker 1: So it's time to write this down. I really like this.
Speaker 1: When I wanted to be high scoring. How high does
Speaker 1: the scoreboard go in Miami? Hi? I want over one
Speaker 1: and a half touchdowns? Four phone to a tongue and
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I want chaos. We're and a half. That's
Speaker 1: like nothing. That's great. You asked me about the more earlier.
Speaker 1: That's easy. I want this high scoring game. Okay. So
Speaker 1: I know we struggled last week and write this down,
Speaker 1: but we've made it this far with unearned confidence, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna go even further. Lions, let's go San Campbell.
Speaker 1: They're gonna keep it within six points at the very least.
Speaker 1: I'm giving it that close. I mean, there's one Lions
Speaker 1: fan here, but Rachel and I are the ones that
Speaker 1: picked them this week. They're going at it. It says
Speaker 1: something that I asked my mom to try to find
Speaker 1: me a picture of me in Lions gear and she
Speaker 1: couldn't find it with the time for the show, come on,
Speaker 1: just saying that anti Viking to Okay, well whatever, al right,
Speaker 1: Cornell Paterson didn't score last week, but you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to that. You know why
Speaker 1: because this is a very generous Seahawks defense to opposing
Speaker 1: running backs. And when you look at all the different
Speaker 1: ways he could score through the air and on the ground. Look,
Speaker 1: we're doubling n here. It's a Martindale strategy. You know.
Speaker 1: At one point in the season, Sin, will you buy
Speaker 1: back into your Lions because I don't, I don't want.
Speaker 1: I don't want to play you on blast, but I've
Speaker 1: seen you wearing some really cool vintage lines gear. I
Speaker 1: am always a Lions fan fan. I have always a
Speaker 1: Lions fan, But I do all these things blind like
Speaker 1: it just comes up with the Lions fan. The model
Speaker 1: is a fan of the models are robot. It doesn't
Speaker 1: have feelings. WHOA, it's not gonna like hearing that, and
Speaker 1: it's definitely listening on one of these I'm afraid of
Speaker 1: the Model. I love you, we love you. Model. Game
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