Speaker 1: You're listening to Comedy Central.
Speaker 2: My guest tonight a fine, fine actor whose films include
Speaker 2: pulp fiction Jackie Brown. His latest is Changing Lanes.
Speaker 1: He's walking Samuel L. Jackson.
Speaker 3: The name the Google dolls in there with their feet
Speaker 3: up here, man, my mom would like lose their mind
Speaker 3: if she saw a guy sitting on sofa with they
Speaker 3: had their feet up.
Speaker 1: I can't do that now. It's true, It's very true.
Speaker 2: I just have to inform our viewers the Google dolls
Speaker 2: did put their feet up on a different show.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, well, yeah, and I was watching that show. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you want to make sure.
Speaker 3: And I'm a big fan, and I know that nobody
Speaker 3: moved the cushions. And my mom wants me to wedd
Speaker 3: these past twice exactly.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: It's the worstpread about that is when you lifted up
Speaker 2: the kitchen, she revealed to America, we have it's plywood
Speaker 2: under there. It's not even like did you see that.
Speaker 1: When you looked? I thought that was part of the design. Yes,
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: When you're on cable, that is part of the design.
Speaker 3: But that's designer ply would Come on, who's that guy
Speaker 3: that uses wood and all his furniture things.
Speaker 1: Uh that's uh yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: So are you a handy guy? Can you do are
Speaker 2: you good with like the power tools? If you build stuff?
Speaker 2: Do you do any of that stuff?
Speaker 1: Not anymore? I did for a long time, did you really?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I built sets when I was doing theater.
Speaker 3: That was one of the jobs that I used to
Speaker 3: do before I was able to work wherever I felt
Speaker 3: like wor here. So when I didn't have a theater job,
Speaker 3: I built sets and I hung lights and I did
Speaker 3: all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So I did it and I.
Speaker 2: Made you really know it from the inside out. I
Speaker 2: mean you paid the dudes doing set design and building stuff.
Speaker 1: Set building. I didn't design. I had hammers, nails, drills. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like to say I did design in college. But
Speaker 1: I like to say that I was a hater.
Speaker 2: But what I was is the guy in the back
Speaker 2: who would cut like a thousand tomatoes. So I like
Speaker 2: to say, yes, catering, I did that.
Speaker 3: The other job sort of like that in college. Actually
Speaker 3: put food on airplanes, you like on the cart while
Speaker 3: I drove the truck from the kitchens out to the
Speaker 3: plane and put the food in the shelves and put
Speaker 3: the things on it.
Speaker 1: We eat when we fly.
Speaker 2: I would pay to be able to do that. Really,
Speaker 2: that seems like the coolest job. The guy with the headphones, Yeah,
Speaker 2: comes down with the We used to race like the
Speaker 2: other guys from the airlines to the plane, so that
Speaker 2: whoever whoever.
Speaker 3: Got to the liquor cabinet first got the liquor.
Speaker 2: This is everyone's fear when they fly, is that that's
Speaker 2: what's going on, that those guys are racing. I would
Speaker 2: imagine that that like that, the zamboni like.
Speaker 1: A cool job.
Speaker 2: You see that, Yeah, you know they'll let you. There's
Speaker 2: a Zamboni school that you can I'm not kidding around.
Speaker 2: It's a fantasy camp and you get to go. I
Speaker 2: saw it when I watched the Now you're looking at
Speaker 2: me like I'm a crazy man.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no. I might want to be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always wanted to drive the zamboni, but I'm
Speaker 2: not a cool weather guy, so I never uh, well
Speaker 2: neither of mine.
Speaker 3: But you know, you're driving the zamboni inside somewhere that's
Speaker 3: relatively I guess temperate.
Speaker 2: And I would assume that there's a heater on the zamboni.
Speaker 1: Well that have the heater tape deck you know CD.
Speaker 2: Player, they get it tricked out a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I've actually seen dudes on tractors with like headphones on,
Speaker 3: like rocking out.
Speaker 1: When you're driving down the highway.
Speaker 3: Sit dude with a big thing on the front of
Speaker 3: the think doing the whole wheat thing, and these dudes
Speaker 3: are rocking out.
Speaker 2: There's nothing else to do out there. Those are the
Speaker 2: guys that worry me because when you're driving through the
Speaker 2: middle of country and you see the guys on the
Speaker 2: tractors and you know, they got nothing to think about,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, nothing to think about but destruction.
Speaker 1: Well, you know some of them may be listening to
Speaker 1: books on tape. Now I get it out. Nice to
Speaker 1: see it, Thank you very much. You look well. I'm
Speaker 1: feeling well, oh yeah, yeah, great.
Speaker 2: Just you've been playing a little golf. You've been getting
Speaker 2: some exercise.
Speaker 3: Not a lot of golf. I've been playing, you know,
Speaker 3: a minimum amount. I had a little back surgery right
Speaker 3: after Swat went there. Yeah, I had a system my
Speaker 3: psiatic nerve. So right toward the end of the picture
Speaker 3: I was in like enormous pain.
Speaker 2: I feel like now I have it. I just caught one.
Speaker 2: I got it really well.
Speaker 3: I hope you don't, because, believe me, I never felt
Speaker 3: anything like that in my life.
Speaker 2: Terrible, terrible pain. Yeah, you're scared of going in is this?
Speaker 2: Have you ever had an operation before?
Speaker 3: I had knee surgery way back when I got dragged
Speaker 3: by the A train back in like nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2: So I went stripped over a curb.
Speaker 1: Is that right on purpose?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: Looking up and there you have.
Speaker 2: You got dragged by the A train.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, way back in ninety I was getting off the train.
Speaker 3: It was like maybe a week before Christmas or something,
Speaker 3: and the lady in front of me had some shopping
Speaker 3: bags and they tore something, and I stopped.
Speaker 4: I did a very un New York like thing. I
Speaker 4: stopped to help her, and I helped her. I helped
Speaker 4: her pick up her stuff.
Speaker 3: And apparently I had one foot in the train and
Speaker 3: one on the platform and the doors closed on my ankle,
Speaker 3: and I looked up the track and you know I
Speaker 3: heard that, faithful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the next thing.
Speaker 3: End of the train was moving and I'm hopping along.
Speaker 3: Train built up speed and took off and fortunately I
Speaker 3: was in the middle of the last car, so I
Speaker 3: was being dragged along the platform kind of dodging the
Speaker 3: poles and a backpack on and somebody pulled the emergency cord.
Speaker 3: The train was a car and half from the tunnel.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't until I.
Speaker 3: Got the court like eight months later, a year or
Speaker 3: so later, that I found out the reason it took
Speaker 3: so long. The guy, the guy that pulled a cord
Speaker 3: was on crutches, so he was like crutching his way
Speaker 3: toward the emergency card online and there was like the
Speaker 3: people in the door pulling on the door gas were
Speaker 3: trying to get my shoe off, pushed my foot out
Speaker 3: the door and making long story short, that wrenched my
Speaker 3: knee all the way around and ripped everything up on
Speaker 3: my knee. So Jack, Yeah, so this back thing wasn't hey,
Speaker 3: not a thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was all right, that's.
Speaker 2: A wild that's I think that's the wildest subway story
Speaker 2: that I've ever heard from somebody who's still living.
Speaker 3: Well, my lawyer well yeah, Well, strangely enough, when my
Speaker 3: lawyer did the research, I was only one of twenty
Speaker 3: seven people dragged that year. So it's a pretty common occurrence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're dragging two people a month here, in the city.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's insane. Yeah, it happens all the time.
Speaker 2: Is that why you think the guy crutches this one?
Speaker 1: Here we go?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, no one, I got to save somebody else
Speaker 3: here we go, right that is.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been back on the subway?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I read subway all the time.
Speaker 3: It's a much more efficient way to get where you're going,
Speaker 3: especially you know, during rush hour or whatever. And plus
Speaker 3: you know, I read the subway and people don't think
Speaker 3: it's me. It's kind of like, you know who you
Speaker 3: look like, he wouldn't be in the subway, right, he'd
Speaker 3: be on Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: Does anybody ever come up and give you the not like,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna blame.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna bust you out, but I know you you.
Speaker 2: Know, I know, Yeah, I saw you get dragged done
Speaker 2: here one night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, exactly.
Speaker 2: Whole yeah exactly. But now does that still bother? I
Speaker 2: mean the back of the thing when you're playing in golf,
Speaker 2: because I know you're you're pretty.
Speaker 3: Much I'm fully recovered from that, you know, the golf
Speaker 3: things like totally cool.
Speaker 4: Now I've been playing.
Speaker 3: I played in South Africa after when I had to
Speaker 3: wait like eight weeks before I could actually swing again.
Speaker 1: Quick.
Speaker 2: Do you recuperate pretty faster?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3: So I did my therapy stuff and I'm still doing therapy.
Speaker 3: So I'm back playing again. Played in Australia a few
Speaker 3: weeks ago because I was there finishing Star Wars.
Speaker 2: So everywhere you go, you yeah, there's still not done
Speaker 2: with that film.
Speaker 1: Man, there's one more, one more.
Speaker 4: One more.
Speaker 2: What happens in this one?
Speaker 1: Episode three? I'm not going to tell you if you
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: Here's here's what I think happened.
Speaker 4: What do you think happens?
Speaker 2: Yoda loses his virginity.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's is that? Could that happen?
Speaker 1: Yoda's got Yoda's got kids all over the universe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've heard him say that. Yeah, just if I was
Speaker 1: getting ready to go in.
Speaker 3: I'm standing up about not going to do you.
Speaker 1: What's coming out of his trail now this film?
Speaker 2: Coach Carter, how are you in terms of the athleticism
Speaker 2: of uh, you know, the sport of basketball? Are you
Speaker 2: a player? I know you're a golfer, yeah, but I
Speaker 2: know your knee is a little jack.
Speaker 4: Up playing basketball.
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe ten twelve, years ago when my
Speaker 3: knee really got jacked up, I couldn't move laterally, so
Speaker 3: I don't like I don't like getting served.
Speaker 2: So only golf now, yeah, because golf.
Speaker 4: Is a major sport. I play a little tennis every.
Speaker 1: Now and then. Tennis. I don't like running, but I'll
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: You do like sort of a more stationary version of tennis.
Speaker 1: I like playing double so I don't have to run
Speaker 1: as much.
Speaker 2: May I suggest something ping pong?
Speaker 1: I got an awesome ping pong game. I really like
Speaker 1: some ping pong. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't like to stand like forty feet off the
Speaker 3: table and now ah, you know, I like to be
Speaker 3: right up on the table, calmly playing with the boys.
Speaker 3: And every now and then, gig guy, you know, give
Speaker 3: it all. You know the ol YMC a ping pong
Speaker 3: set up.
Speaker 1: In the record.
Speaker 2: I like playing ping pong and this is the last
Speaker 2: time that I played it where if you get the
Speaker 2: ball in the cup, everyone has to drink. How do
Speaker 2: you ever play that? Had the ping pong?
Speaker 3: That sounds like another game, but it works.
Speaker 2: It's not as athletic. The game doesn't last as long,
Speaker 2: and by the time you get to twenty one, someone
Speaker 2: has to be taken to the hospital.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 1: That's a good news. It's the good news.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a continuing saga of the badassery of
Speaker 2: Samuel more, more and more. These films, these characters have
Speaker 2: been around for fifty years, six years.
Speaker 3: I mean, Nick Fury was around when I was a kid.
Speaker 3: I used to read Nick Fury comic books. You know.
Speaker 3: He was a white guy with a cigar in a patch. Yes,
Speaker 3: but then he became David Hasselholl for a while, and
Speaker 3: then he became me.
Speaker 1: So the evolution of Nick Fury continues.
Speaker 2: It does, indeed, And may I say it's been upgraded.
Speaker 4: I believe.
Speaker 2: I believe that Samuel L.
Speaker 1: Jackson I'd like to feel that way too, But I
Speaker 1: almost wonder.
Speaker 2: You know, they were never able. The technology of movies
Speaker 2: was never at the advanced level that it is now
Speaker 2: that these superheroes could on screen really appear realistic, and
Speaker 2: it could you could get the jolt. I wonder if
Speaker 2: that's why it's only now that these movies are so big.
Speaker 3: I think part of is the technology, and I also
Speaker 3: think part of is the accessibility of what we're able
Speaker 3: to do as real people now. You know, when I
Speaker 3: was a kid. I would read a comic book, and
Speaker 3: I would want to be in a world where, you know,
Speaker 3: there were women walking around in tights with green hair
Speaker 3: and blue hair, and folks had capes on and they
Speaker 3: were wearing boots.
Speaker 1: And they call that San Francisco. I believe that. Oh, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: And now you know, we have all that, and people
Speaker 3: are walking around, you know, people are walking around talking
Speaker 3: on things, and they're looking at stuff on the little devices.
Speaker 3: So it's all very real for us. The only thing
Speaker 3: missing is this cat that actually flies. Yes, you know
Speaker 3: that land somewhere, you know, and he's probably out there somewhere,
Speaker 3: just you know, waiting to come out.
Speaker 2: I believe that's right.
Speaker 4: I wonder.
Speaker 2: I've always thought that science takes its cues from you know,
Speaker 2: all the great Asimov and Wells and all the great
Speaker 2: sort of fiction writers and science fiction writers, and they
Speaker 2: see something like that in a comic strip and go,
Speaker 2: I bet I could make that. You know that they're
Speaker 2: taking their cues almost from the imaginations of a guy
Speaker 2: like Stanley.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there's that, And you know there's also the
Speaker 3: fact that I used to dream I could fly, right,
Speaker 3: I used to dream I could breathe underwater, you know,
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff, and I wanted to
Speaker 3: do it really.
Speaker 1: Badly, you know.
Speaker 3: And now you know I put on that costume. When
Speaker 3: I fall into that Marvel playground, I'm like, I'm in heaven.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like ha ha have it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I put my high pats on and I walk out
Speaker 3: there and I'm invincible man.
Speaker 2: And they created realistically, you know, in the old days,
Speaker 2: the superhero like Hulk, they just find the biggest guy
Speaker 2: they could and paint him.
Speaker 1: Green back and that would be.
Speaker 2: You know, but the effects now and everything else that
Speaker 2: surrounds it. Is it when you're doing it, when you're
Speaker 2: making it, is it tedious?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Do you feel the sement or is it just you
Speaker 2: and Spandex in front of like a green flat and
Speaker 2: they're just like, now the monster's coming.
Speaker 1: Like in the beginning, you sort.
Speaker 3: Of felt that way back when I first started doing
Speaker 3: Star Wars. It was just a big green room and
Speaker 3: we had some things in there, and then you know,
Speaker 3: I had my lightsaber and George will say, okay, there's
Speaker 3: this thing attacking you. Now go how big is it?
Speaker 3: It's as big as an s Biggs, an SUV. I
Speaker 3: go really and how how how fast is it? He says,
Speaker 3: fast as you want it to be. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: so I can do anything I want and you'll draw
Speaker 3: stuff around me, he said, You kick all the ass
Speaker 3: you want and we will make sure it looks like
Speaker 3: you're the baddest mother. So I'm back in my room.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 1: I got my music going and.
Speaker 4: My hell like.
Speaker 3: I'm jumping up, running and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: when I go to the movies, it's like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing, look at me.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so yeah, it's all that and more.
Speaker 4: But when you're doing like that car chase we had.
Speaker 2: Like, but that looks actually dangerous, like are you.
Speaker 3: Well, we had like twelve cars that all did different
Speaker 3: So when you see the movie, there's one point where
Speaker 3: it's like nineteen guys firing bullets at it. The windows
Speaker 3: are just resisting the bullets and I'm just sitting in
Speaker 3: the car like.
Speaker 4: And that's like a dope ass feeling. Yeah yeah, well you.
Speaker 1: Actually you're just in the car, you know.
Speaker 3: And we were shooting in Cleveland, so we're on the
Speaker 3: streets of Cleveland and people in the office buildings.
Speaker 5: Like welcome to the show, thanks so much. You are
Speaker 5: a bona fide legend, sir. You are truly just the
Speaker 5: epitome of not just hard work, but like talent, paying off,
Speaker 5: inspiring people in every way, shape or form. Been in
Speaker 5: more than one hundred and fifty movies, some of the
Speaker 5: greatest movies of all time. And I was shocked to
Speaker 5: find I was shocked to find out that you had
Speaker 5: never produced anything with your production company with your wife,
Speaker 5: and I was like, I couldn't believe that this docu
Speaker 5: series that we're talking about today was the first that
Speaker 5: you're producing. And I was like, man, it has to
Speaker 5: be special, and it really really is. Enslaved is not
Speaker 5: just a special series, it's a personal series. Tell me
Speaker 5: a little bit about it.
Speaker 3: When they came to me with the idea, it was about,
Speaker 3: you know, finding these ships that had gone down, captured
Speaker 3: Africans on them that didn't make it, and you know,
Speaker 3: in my mind, I.
Speaker 4: Was like, Okay, this is gonna be dope. You know.
Speaker 3: We get some divers and maybe I can die with them,
Speaker 3: you know, and go down and we'll find skeletons with shackles.
Speaker 4: Still on them and stuff like that. And then combined with.
Speaker 3: Finding my ancestry and going into ancestry dot com and
Speaker 3: finding out that I was tribally connected to the Binger
Speaker 3: tribe in Gabon and that was a lot of the
Speaker 3: traffic that came through there and what happened. It was
Speaker 3: a way for me to reconnect with my identity in
Speaker 3: that particular way and to tell a story that we
Speaker 3: never talk about, the people that didn't make it and
Speaker 3: what happened and how those how those people still profited
Speaker 3: from those people that.
Speaker 4: Did not make it.
Speaker 3: They didn't make it to wherever they were going here Brazil,
Speaker 3: uh Or or or the West Indies to work, but
Speaker 3: they still get money from these people's bodies being stolen
Speaker 3: from this particular place. And it was a chance for
Speaker 3: me to do something which is so crazy in my
Speaker 3: mind when.
Speaker 4: I think about it.
Speaker 3: When people would ask me had I been to Africa,
Speaker 3: and I'd say, well, yeah, and then so, well were
Speaker 3: you there? And so I've been to Cape Town, I've
Speaker 3: been Johannesburg, and I've been to Morocco and Egypt. Oh
Speaker 3: you haven't been to Africa, the real Africa.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what you're talking about? So I got to
Speaker 4: go to Gabon and hang out there.
Speaker 5: One thing I've never taken for granted when I when
Speaker 5: I talked to some of my friends African Americans, who say, man, Trevor,
Speaker 5: being stolen from your cultural identity is is such a
Speaker 5: you know, there's a piece that you don't even realize
Speaker 5: is missing, and just the story that you tell yourself
Speaker 5: about yourself. I wonder what that was like for you,
Speaker 5: going back to a place where you didn't only go
Speaker 5: I'm from here, like my lineage is from here, but
Speaker 5: they said, no, you are a lost son of this tribe.
Speaker 5: What did that feel like for you?
Speaker 4: Wow? It was.
Speaker 3: No spiritually uplifting to connect with the tribe and to
Speaker 3: look around and see my relatives in a real sense
Speaker 3: of faces that I knew or you know and understand,
Speaker 3: and to be welcomed by some people that looked at
Speaker 3: me in a different kind of way, like come home
Speaker 3: and I'm there with these people and I'm looking at
Speaker 3: them and they're so open, They're so welcome, and the
Speaker 3: ceremony itself to participate in that and to look in
Speaker 3: these people's eyes and see that you know, they really are.
Speaker 3: They're as proud of me leaving or what happened when
Speaker 3: I left as I am of being there with them
Speaker 3: and saying I'm glad to be back here and be
Speaker 3: fulfilled by what this actually means to connect with something
Speaker 3: that gives me a tangible connection to the continent. Occasionally,
Speaker 3: a lot of times when we were shooting this thing
Speaker 3: and people start asking you how you feel, where you
Speaker 3: feel this way?
Speaker 4: Do you feel that way?
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't want you defining what I feel,
Speaker 3: because sometimes it survivors remorse.
Speaker 4: Wow, you know that had that not happened, I.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't have reached the place that I reached here that
Speaker 3: allowed me to come back and tell this story. You
Speaker 3: know what would have happened had I never you know,
Speaker 3: had my ancestors never been taken from that place and
Speaker 3: I was brought here.
Speaker 4: So you feel a different kind of responsibility.
Speaker 3: But because you did achieve what you achieved despite what
Speaker 3: this country is, and you are able to come back
Speaker 3: and hopefully encourage or tell a story that makes somebody
Speaker 3: want to go and see it for themselves.
Speaker 5: You are somebody who has not just created history, but
Speaker 5: you've lived through history. And I really like that you
Speaker 5: say telling those stories. You know, reading through your story,
Speaker 5: I was amazed at how much you've lived through Everyone
Speaker 5: focuses on your movies, but I look at the world
Speaker 5: that you've lived, and it's been like a movie. For instance,
Speaker 5: I didn't know that Samuel L. Jackson grew up with
Speaker 5: a stutter. You know, I didn't know that about.
Speaker 4: You fast it comes back, right.
Speaker 5: But I also didn't know, and you correct me, that's wrong.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that sometimes you would use the word
Speaker 5: mother to just like get your mouth moving.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to just center myself and stop.
Speaker 5: You see, Like, there's so many things about you that
Speaker 5: I didn't know. I didn't know, for instance, that you
Speaker 5: went to mlk's funeral after he was assassinated, and I
Speaker 5: didn't know that you were part of those protests, And
Speaker 5: a lot of who you are has been shaped by
Speaker 5: that time. When you look at those protests back then
Speaker 5: and you look at the protests that are happening now,
Speaker 5: when you look at the journey that black Americans and
Speaker 5: Black America has been on for such a long time
Speaker 5: with its government, I wonder if you if you've seen
Speaker 5: something that gives you a glimpse of hope.
Speaker 3: Well, there's an evolution of you know, protests when you
Speaker 3: look at it. When I was a kid, I grew
Speaker 3: up in basically American apartheid. I was in Chattanooga, Tennessee,
Speaker 3: and you know, there were places I couldn't go. All
Speaker 3: my schoolmates were black. I didn't interact with white people
Speaker 3: unless I went downtown. And when the civil rights movement
Speaker 3: began or the city and started, my parents and grandparents
Speaker 3: were terrified that.
Speaker 4: I was going to go down there and get killed.
Speaker 4: But I was too young though anyway. But I got
Speaker 4: the college at more Off College in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: I started to meet and see and talk to people
Speaker 3: from Snick, from SELC and I can make a differentiation
Speaker 3: about which idea I liked, And all of a sudden
Speaker 3: I had an ideology. And the war started, So that
Speaker 3: was the anti war protest. I didn't know anything about
Speaker 3: the war. And the first Vietnam veterans I met were students,
Speaker 3: had guys who had been in the war and they
Speaker 3: came back and they had had like yours, and we
Speaker 3: were like, I had these blackfists that they had made
Speaker 3: out of the cords, and they started talking about the
Speaker 3: war and what was happening. Then I had a cousin
Speaker 3: who's the same age as I was, who went to
Speaker 3: the army and got killed and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: the war was very real for me. So I was
Speaker 3: in the streets for that. The anti war protests and
Speaker 3: the things that were going on, we understood them. And
Speaker 3: we could watch the old protests when they sick dogs
Speaker 3: on people and you know, we're hitting.
Speaker 4: Them with fire hoses and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: People were going, wow, this is America, and we were like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is America.
Speaker 4: It's like us watching the apartheid you know, protest. Right.
Speaker 3: I met guys from South Africa, came to more house
Speaker 3: and they were they were there, they were my classmates.
Speaker 3: So we learned more about apartheid because we had a
Speaker 3: personal connection to talk to people about it.
Speaker 4: So we understood that, oh, it ain't just happening to us.
Speaker 4: There's some world watch it happening here.
Speaker 3: So all of a sudden, it's like, okay, so we're
Speaker 3: brothers in arms and everybody trying to you know, get
Speaker 3: free from these shackles that everybody's got on us, that
Speaker 3: tried to keep us down because they wanted they want
Speaker 3: to keep the things. We started to understand that, you know,
Speaker 3: change change, change doesn't happen without you know pain.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And when I look at these kids today, I am
Speaker 3: so proud of them, number one.
Speaker 4: But what we need to.
Speaker 3: Understand and press on them is they're using your militancy
Speaker 3: to say, to make the dominant culture afraid of you,
Speaker 3: even you're a part of the dominant culture. So you
Speaker 3: need to go home and tell your parents. Your parents
Speaker 3: know that you're not dangerous. So you have to convince
Speaker 3: your parents to go out and tell these other parents
Speaker 3: that no, they're not dangerous. They're just trying to assert
Speaker 3: themselves and make the world a better place for them
Speaker 3: because they're going to inherit it and this is what
Speaker 3: they need, and this is what we need to do
Speaker 3: to support them. So they need to like you know,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not saying pull it back. All I'm
Speaker 3: saying is get those other people to prop you up
Speaker 3: in another way, and don't forget to go vote. You
Speaker 3: got to understand evolutionarian act voting is you can't just
Speaker 3: let that God, I don't mean so we're gonna go
Speaker 3: out here and do this.
Speaker 4: No, man, go vote. You know you got to get
Speaker 4: rid of to do it before you can change the place.
Speaker 5: And Samuel Jackson, I appreciate you for existing. I appreciate
Speaker 5: you for taking the time to be on my show.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much, my friend, look off to yourself.
Speaker 3: You know I'm running, but you messed up when you
Speaker 3: said I can come over there anytime, and just.
Speaker 4: Say what time?
Speaker 1: Anytime?
Speaker 4: Taking you up on that, okay? Please go vote.
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