1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya Red and I 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: heart radio podcast. Hello everybody, We're scrubbing in and this 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: is a bonus episode because this is a bonus episode week, 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's why we're here 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: on a Thursday. Check check. It is Thursday, and we're 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: excited because we have Colton Underwood on the show Scrubbing In. 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: And we love Colton Underwood. I feel like, you know, 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: I was trying to think back on when my obsession 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: with him began, and I feel like I picked him. 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: He was on Becca Kufer, Yeah, and I feel like 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: I picked him in my final four. So I've always 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: just had a really strong connection with him. And every 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: time we've had him, we've had him on the morning 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: show a ton and we've had him on the podcast, 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: and I just feel like he's he's a good egg. 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: He is a good egg and he's you know, gone 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: through so much and this is gonna He's been on 18 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: the podcast before, but this is like a new experience 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: having him on the podcast because a lot has happened 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: since we last talked to him. So I'm excited to 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: chat with him and we're going to get right into 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: that interview right now. Alright, you guys, So we have 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: someone who has scrubbed in before, but today it is 24 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: a very new experience for this person having them on 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: the podcast. It feels like the first time. Please welcome 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: Colton Underwood. Yea, almost like, well, let's just say that you. Um, 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: we had you as a caterpillar and now you're a butterfly. Wow, 28 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: it only took a few years, but I had my 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,639 Speaker 1: wings now. Oh, I love that you look so happy 30 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: and it's like, really good you do? I am. I 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: feel great. I'm like the healthiest, happiest I've ever been. Um, 32 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: and it's like a new lightness for me. But yeah, 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm in a very very good place now. I'm so 34 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: happy for you. I mean, I feel that was first 35 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: of all, the most Tanya intro ever because she loves 36 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: a butterfly. So that really really like you. I feel 37 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: as though you had a transformation and you just blossomed 38 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: in this beautiful butterfly. Even though I do feel as 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: though you're always you've always been really happy and I've 40 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: always really liked you, um, but I feel like you're 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: just you're stepping into your own your truth, your light 42 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: and it just feels very symbolic. Well, thank you for 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: saying that. Yeah, my my cocoon took some hits along 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: the way. It's a lot of ups and downs and 45 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: rolling around and then I found myself. So yes, um, yeah, 46 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: it's it's been a lot, But thank you for saying that. 47 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: I first, like, I just want to say, I'm so 48 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: happy for you, and um, I feel really like a 49 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: sense of I feel very proud of you for what 50 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: you've done because I you know, I think being able 51 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: to do what you've done and put yourself out there, 52 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: especially with the fan base that you grew from the Bachelor, 53 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: was a huge step. And I think I don't I 54 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: don't know if people a lot of people don't really 55 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: understand like that process. And I can't even imagine your 56 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: process of being the lead and being the Bachelor having 57 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: all these women, but I feel like no one can 58 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: really understand the like gravity of that situation and what 59 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: you did. But I just want to start with saying that, 60 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: and um, I'm so excited to have you on and 61 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: talk to you about what's been going on because you've 62 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: had a lot happening. But I just wanted to start 63 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: with that and say I'm I'm really just excited for 64 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: you that you are fully you just seem happy, thank you. Yeah, 65 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean my coming out experience was very so. I 66 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: mean it was similar to it wasn't to a lot 67 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: of other people's, but it's clunky, like right now, Um, 68 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: in our community. It's not the easiest of processes to 69 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: go through with society. And I truly believed my bachelor 70 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: experience was going to sort of convert me. It was 71 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: my conversion therapy towards myself and like who I wanted 72 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: to be because of what I my life was supposed 73 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: to grow into, playing football, being a Christian, all of 74 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: these things that sort of told me who I was 75 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: supposed to be. And like I I love community and 76 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: I always seeked it out so much so that I 77 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: let my community sort of always tell me who I 78 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: was and who I was going to be and what 79 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: I needed to do with my life. So um yeah, 80 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: now yeah, now it's just obviously much different. But you know, 81 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: unfortunately I can also still recognize, like I wish I 82 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: wouldn't have handled some things how I did. I brought 83 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: a lot of people into this mess that I created 84 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: and made. Obviously it led to my happiness, but I 85 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: really brought a lot of people into it unnecessarily and 86 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: for that I'm really like sorry for but it's just 87 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: been a transformation. Nonetheless, we're not really super close, but 88 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: I feel very close to you. I've always loved the 89 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: two of you so much, Like You've been running into 90 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: you guys at like the MTV Movie Awards, TV Show 91 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: Awards and uh in your podcast is nominated. I always 92 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: here for you, I know. So I feel that the 93 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: love is there. I feel so so I want to know. 94 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: I want to know, you know, moving because you are 95 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: engaged now, Yes, I want to know just kind of 96 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: like the beginnings of that, like where'd you guys meet? 97 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: How do you meet? Who made the first move? How 98 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: did it go from like dating boyfriend boyfriend official to 99 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: get like I need another process, I need all the things, 100 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: oh man. Um So, I was coming out to myself 101 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: and working through the process, and it showed on my 102 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: Netflix show like I was still so uncomfortable, and I think, 103 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, I knew the group setting was going to 104 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: be extremely uncomfortable for me and very I was very 105 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: intimidated by it. Um So, I wasn't really in a 106 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: position to start dating like right away, I wanted to, 107 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, to take some time, and I did, despite 108 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: what the media has out there right now, I did 109 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: go on several dates, which is very privately, which is 110 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: another thing that I found. Boundaries are super helpful in 111 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: this new relationship. Um privately, like, I went on a 112 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: few dates and I was like, okay, Like I like this, 113 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: but I don't like that. You know. It's such a 114 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: surreal feeling going through dating men because I never thought 115 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: that I was going to be possible. So now like 116 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: I had, you know, um, this opportunity and a couple 117 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: of thee okay, I think I did a handful of 118 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: different guys and then Jordan and I met through a 119 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: mutual friend and immediately I was like, oh, this is easy. 120 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: And I didn't I didn't like know exactly what it 121 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: was going to be. I just knew it was really intense, 122 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: and it was it was a feeling that I wanted 123 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: to keep feeling, and one thing I do another, And 124 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: we really started just putting a lot of effort and 125 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: energy into our relationship in the first few months, which 126 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: I can thank Bachelor for because we were having conversations 127 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: that most people hold for like month three or four. 128 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: And that's one thing I'm always grateful to the franchises. 129 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: They taught me how to have intellectual and meaningful conversations 130 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: that are actually relevant and important to the relationship. So 131 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: I just applied those same things that I did when 132 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: I was the lead, and um, him and I hit 133 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: it off and we met each other's families quick and 134 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: it's just when you find that type of connection and 135 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: spark and it's just easy. And our communication is what 136 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: I would say, is like makes us successful or what 137 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm like the happiest about. Yeah, talk to me about 138 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: that because communication. Yeah, yeah. I mean I used to 139 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: like if there was something wrong like I and I 140 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: didn't want to confront it. I would hide and run 141 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: from it. And I mean, obviously the biggest one of 142 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: those my sexuality. I would just run from the problem, 143 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: look the other way, not confronted. And now after really 144 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: coming to terms of okay, hey, that did not make 145 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: me feel good. Can we work on this? And BI 146 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: seris that he does the same with me, and it's 147 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: just so healthy and so new in my life and 148 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is I'm obsessed with this feeling. 149 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: So I relate so much that everything you're saying, like, 150 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: even so when I met well we call my significant 151 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: other on podcast, but when I met ninety f P 152 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: it was so instant, and I had never been in love, 153 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: and I just always thought like, maybe I just am 154 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: not like that emotional these conversations about like I was like, 155 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: because I'm such a lover and I love love, and 156 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: I would just like explain it to her and she 157 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: was just like, I don't know if I have that 158 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: chip in me. She's like, I just don't think I'm 159 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: ever going to feel that, you know, And then when 160 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: she did, it was like it was instant. And it's 161 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: also the same thing I shut down. I don't know 162 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: if it's something in the I don't even know if 163 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: I I don't know if it's something in the Christian 164 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: community of like shutting down, like if you run from 165 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: something or don't acknowledge it or confront it it almost 166 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: you feel like you're keeping the peace when you're actually 167 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: just causing more disruption. It's just maybe hidden or not acknowledge. 168 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: But um, I did the same thing. And the thing 169 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: about my relationship that I love so much is the communication. 170 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: Like I feel like I can navigate all my relationships 171 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: better because of my relationship, and um, it's also a 172 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: sentiment of growing up my whole life. You know, you 173 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: would see like love is love, that was like the 174 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: whole That's like what people would say. And I not 175 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: that recently, but you know, like within the last few years, 176 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: have realized that it's that's simple. Like it's that simple 177 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: that the emotion, the feelings of love and what you 178 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: put into it is the exact same, no matter what 179 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: gender the person is, how they identify, like that feeling 180 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: and who you feel it with is the same, no 181 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: matter what it looks like. And I don't think I 182 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: have a really hard time understanding why people have such 183 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: a problem with that when it doesn't it does not 184 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: affect them at all. And I I just feel very 185 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: like I relate to you so much because I have 186 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: gone through very similar things, and um, I have felt 187 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: so many of the feelings that you've felt. That was 188 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: one of my first conversations with my therapist. UM was 189 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm part of two communities that I want to remain 190 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: part of, one being a Christian community, then one who 191 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: I was going to be in the lgbt Q plus community. 192 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: And they do not get along and and or the 193 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: it's portrayed that they don't understand each other, and I 194 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to be alienated and both 195 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: of those by being a part of both things, you know, 196 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: I didn't. So it was one of my early conversations 197 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: that I had with my therapist. And UM, when you 198 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: really break it down, like what you were saying be 199 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: because it's like love is love. And if you want 200 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: to come at me and shame me for loving another man, 201 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, look at my past, like look at what 202 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: it led my life to be. Like, like I was miserable. 203 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: I was not a good human. I was mad at myself. 204 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: I did not have internal peace. And what I was 205 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: showing and portraying to the world was I was this peaceful, happy, 206 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: like lighthearted guy. But in turn, I was super sensitive. 207 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: I was super toxic and super vulnerable to a lot 208 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: of people's words and criticism. And it was because the 209 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: that was sort of how I grew up in the 210 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: Christian community of like sort of knowing that what I 211 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: was doing at you know, at the groundwork, or what 212 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: I was at least believed what I was told to 213 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: believe was that it was it was wrong. Um. And 214 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: then once that goes away. Now all of a sudden, 215 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh wait, I still have my relationship with God. 216 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: I can still attend a service if I want to 217 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: and not have to feel anxiety waiting for you know, 218 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: I remember, um, my first time back to church after 219 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: I filmed the show, I just didn't want like the 220 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: pastor to take a stance against homosexuality, and everybody in 221 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: the church turn and look at me to see how 222 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm responding to it. I remember that was that was 223 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: my anxious feeling. Is like, now all of a sudden, 224 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm a representation of someone who is gay and a 225 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: Christian that when it does come up, are they all 226 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: going to look at me for the answer? And when 227 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm still seeking it, like that's the reason I'm standing 228 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: side by side with you at a Bible study or 229 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, trying my faith. But Becca, I mean to 230 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: your point, yeah, that's it's it's something that I think 231 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: is an ongoing uh struggle or something that I'm still 232 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: seeking to find that I think that people think they 233 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: mean well, like I think people think they're doing the 234 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: right thing. And I was that person for so long. 235 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: So I have grace that because just because I've experienced 236 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: something different and opened my eyes and my mind and 237 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: my heart to something different. I had those thoughts and 238 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: those beliefs. So I have grace for people who may 239 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: not have been exposed to someone or an experience to 240 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: see that. But I do think that they think they're 241 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: doing the right thing. But I'm going on the record 242 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: to say that most people, if they grew up Christian, 243 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: they have heard all the Bible verses, they have heard 244 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: what you're going to tell them, and they're questioning if 245 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: they even want to stay in the circle because they 246 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: don't feel included anymore. So pushing those on people, I 247 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: think pushes people further. And then the people who have 248 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: never experienced God or or Christianity, they have a horrible 249 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: view on what it looks like. So my my mind, 250 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: like what I'm trying, like my goal for Christians is 251 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: to be like just love people, like except them, trying 252 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: to learn about them, like learn what their experiences as 253 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: experiences and what they're learning through their what they're going through, 254 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: and like be there for them because people are so cruel, 255 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: but they they think that they're doing good. Well, I 256 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: think I think the thing is at least you know, 257 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: there's this stigma that Christianity or like faith in general 258 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: means judgment and it's really the opposite, like faith is acceptance, 259 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, and I think we had to kind of 260 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: get back to that, you know, that perspective of things, 261 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: because I'll never forget. I remember, Um, I brought one 262 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: of my girlfriends to church with me for the first time, 263 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: and she is lesbian, has a wife, a family, and 264 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: was never you know, never really understood faith. But um, 265 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: they were trying to get pregnant and they said if 266 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: they got pregnant, they would come to church because they 267 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: were praying about it, right, and they did, And so 268 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: I brought her a church with me and I introduced 269 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: her to my pastor and she literally just started crying 270 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: right then and there because she was like, I've never 271 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: felt not judged being at a church, or you know, 272 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: to make your pastor made me feel so like welcome, 273 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: and I've never experienced that before. And that broke my 274 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: heart because it was just like the opposite of how 275 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: I should feel, you know what I mean, Like it's 276 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: faith is love and so you should feel accepted and 277 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: warm and that. But I think that a lot of 278 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: out here I do. Yeah, Okay, So it's a pastor Chad. Yeah, 279 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: it was Pastor Chad. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah, I've met with 280 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: um a couple of different people that attend to talk 281 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: about where out here, So that was definitely one that 282 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: I've been leaning towards and I'm going to start attending. Yeah. 283 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: He honestly, he's incredible, and him and Julia they're just 284 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: they lead with with acceptance and love and and that's 285 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: exactly it. It's just that feeling of you're all welcome, 286 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: everybody's welcome, there's no udgment here. We just love God. 287 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: And it was a really beautiful thing to see. Amazing. Yeah, 288 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: is Jordan's do you all aligned? Like? Because and I 289 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: have different faith backgrounds and you know, I think we 290 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: get to learn from each other, which is really cool. 291 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: But UM, have you had that experience or did Jordan 292 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: grew up similarly to you or Jordan grew up similar 293 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: to me, but when after he came out, he separated 294 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: himself completely from the church and from faith, So we 295 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: have different faith backgrounds, um, but it is one of 296 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: the things that like what I love and the door 297 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: and appreciated about him as he said, you know, like, hey, 298 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: if it means a lot to you for for me 299 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: to attend church with you, I will, like I don't 300 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: have to agree with it, but I like, I'm gonna 301 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: be by your side, like as you go through this. 302 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: So um he And that's that's sort of eventually my goal. 303 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: And that's why I've been very slow in the process 304 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: for myself of reading books. I'm still it's still educating myself. 305 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: And actually the show CBS show that I just did 306 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: with Mike Singletary, you know, he actually helped me. He's 307 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: like getting the word. He's like, the same Bible that's 308 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: being used as a weapon against you, if you really 309 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: break it down, Jesus hung out with that outcast. He 310 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: hung out with people that were different like he was 311 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: there and all of the iconic stories and Bible verses. 312 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: You you're gonna find love, and he's like, that's the 313 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: premise of it is love. But back to Jordan's um, 314 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: he pretty much just like, look, if it's if it's 315 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: important too, it's important to me, so like I'll attend 316 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: if you want me to, but if it's something you 317 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: want to do on your own, go for it. But 318 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: we definitely have different views, and I think that's what's 319 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: beautiful about it is we love one another and we're 320 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: in a relationship and we don't agree on everything, and 321 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: that's what being human is supposed to be. Yeah, my 322 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: boyfriend is Jewish, so like very opposite of mine, and 323 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of it's been the same way. People ask 324 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: me off and they're like, how do you navigate two 325 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: totally different faiths? And I'm like, it's weird because we're 326 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: both just very open to learn about each other's faith, 327 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm learning all about the 328 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: Jewish holidays I never like I knew about. And he 329 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: came to a couple of services with me when it 330 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: was during the pandemic, so it was like online and 331 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, like we're just both learning each other's you know, 332 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: traditions and faiths and it's a really beautiful thing. Well 333 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: you get multiple holidays and traditions. Christmas December is basically 334 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: just present filled. I was gonna say, look at us 335 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: all in relationships where we communicate and learn about each 336 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: other grown up. Well, you did mention that your CBS show, 337 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: and that's called Beyond the Edge, and so you guys 338 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: are doing this. It's kind of like survivor not Amazing Race. 339 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: We talked about Amazing Race a lot on this podcast. Yeah, 340 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: I love Amazing I definitely can get down for some 341 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: amazing race to What's interesting about it is it is 342 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: survivor based, but you're really just competing with yourself and um, 343 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: it's just it was an opportunity. When it first presented 344 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: to me that, I was like, I need something lighthearted. 345 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: I want to go have fun. I want to go 346 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: compete and get back to my roots. Um. It was 347 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: shortly after the Netflix show wrapped and I was like, 348 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: I am there's so much heaviness, Like, can you find 349 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: me a project that I can go do on TV? 350 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: Because that's I like being. I like doing the TV 351 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: and the entertainment side of it was like can we 352 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: do it? But like fun, Like, yeah, here's this opportunity. 353 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: I was like, signed me up. Done, So we get 354 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: there and uh. It was an incredible show. And the 355 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: premise around it is we are all coming from different 356 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: walks of life, all different beliefs, all different backgrounds, and 357 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: we are working together to raise money for our respective charities. 358 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: And the only way that you leave is if you 359 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: you quit and you tap out, And by quit, I 360 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: mean you push yourself mentally and physically to the point 361 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: that you just cannot continue. And it was brutal conditions, 362 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: like I wish I could sit here and be like, well, yeah, 363 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: you know that there was a set in like crafts 364 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: and services off to the side that you can go 365 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: grab and eat. There was none of that. We slept 366 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: on bamboo, we slepped in the rain. Like the first 367 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: night of the show, I maybe got minutes of sleep, 368 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: and I am like, I'm someone who when they need 369 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: to sleep, I need air conditioning, white palise, the right pillow, 370 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: the right firmness to the mattress, like if you touch 371 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: me here, like it has to be like it's just 372 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: like I'm very picking and I'm sitting there like, oh 373 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: my god, I'm gonna have to compete tomorrow on thirty 374 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: minutes of sleep. This is gonna be brutal. So it was. 375 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: It was very interesting. Hi. Yeah, I watched all those 376 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: shows and I'm always thinking I could maybe do this, 377 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: except for the sleep part, Like if they could give 378 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: me a bed, I think I could do it. Okay, Yeah, 379 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: I just that was I knew going into it that 380 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: and then I'm I get angry a lot. So I 381 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: put on ten pounds before I went for the show, 382 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: because I was like, I'm not gonna be eating. I'm 383 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: gonna have to compete here, like we're gonna I'm a 384 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: big dude too, So like we get back to camp 385 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: and they're just like we're gonna divide it equally. I'm like, 386 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have problems with that. So I'm gonna have 387 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: to take care of my body. Literally nothing sounds worse 388 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: to me. Like if somebody off, I'd be like, please, 389 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: do not sign me up, Do not sign me up. 390 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: So like sleeping in rain on bamboo on an island, 391 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: like it's a hard pass for me, poor Paulina, like 392 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: slept in a puddle on her bed and like woke 393 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: up pruney, like it was that is that intense, And 394 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: it's just like the show though, the underlying message of love, 395 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: like what we were just discussing and coming together and 396 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: accepting each other's differences and like political backgrounds, you know, genders, 397 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: you know, sexualities, like none of it mattered. We're all 398 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: on the jungle. At the end of the day, we're 399 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: on the jungle and we all had to love on 400 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: one another and help each other out, to push one 401 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: another and that's what I feel like our society needs 402 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: to see more represented on TV than what currently is 403 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: as far as this decisiveness. So we're trying to do 404 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: our part. That is so true, Like we're all we 405 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: get everyone's so mad and like judge you towards one another, 406 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: and we're like, if you put us all together, we 407 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: would all have to work together, regardless of it to survive. 408 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: That's really deep. Actually, it really was like it was 409 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: very like if the world ends, we're all going to 410 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: have to like put these differences aside and work together 411 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: to survive. So what are we really doing with with 412 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: our time in the day? And are the messages that 413 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: we're putting out there? Yeah? How long was filming? How 414 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: long were you away? Um? I think in total we 415 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: were away twenty one or twenty two days. WHOA, So 416 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: it was I don't know how I think it's ten episodes. 417 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: It's it's ten days out there in just the conditions 418 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: and living, um if you get that long. But um, yeah, 419 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: it was. It was a interesting process that I've never 420 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: done before and much different than the shows that I've 421 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: done in the past. But I had an incredible experience. 422 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: But when does that air when does it come out? 423 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: It comes out on Wednesday. Okay, yep, so it follows 424 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: uh follow Survivor. I'm pretty sure. And then I don't know. 425 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: I've been in too many different time zones recently to 426 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: know exactly which one to say here, so I don't 427 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: want to say it wrong. Is a podcast, so it's 428 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: all time zones. So just I think once in a 429 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: CBS is perfect. Ones in night CBS, that's perfect. Yeah, 430 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: you have a you have a really uh like diverse 431 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: resume of the things that you've done in your career, 432 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: so I know what's not like what's your pine, Like, 433 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: what's your next thing? Like, what's your kind of pine? 434 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: The sky vision of what you want long term? Well, 435 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: currently I'm working on a children's animation series, so that's 436 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: been fun. I'm all over the place, But like, I 437 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: think that's I mean, I just turned thirty. I feel 438 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: like this is my time to really explore and see 439 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: what I'm really into. I mean, I've done the in 440 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: front of the camera and I liked it, but there 441 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: was a balance of protecting my own privacy and my 442 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: own mental health. Now that like I'm really putting a 443 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: value on, So I'm not gonna say I'm never gonna 444 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: do reality TV show again, but I'm gonna always make 445 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: sure that I'm prepared and ready for it the next 446 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: time I got back into it. Um. But I'm working 447 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: on a kid's animation show called Pocket Friends that has 448 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: five characters that all resemble a topic that is relevant. 449 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: So we have uh sexual identity with Calvin the chameleon, 450 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: Betty deals with body positivity. Sonja is a duck from 451 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: two different species and she deals with people of color 452 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 1: and biracial people. Squirt has learning disabilities and he's a turtle. 453 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: And then Ripped the Badger as a bully, and we're 454 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: telling the story through the bullies point of view. Have 455 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: you already done it? We've were about to announce where 456 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: we're who we're partnering with, and who we're working with 457 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: on it, so it hasn't come out yet. And then 458 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: all the characters. It's interesting because this new Web three 459 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: and I hate even saying that as a weird connotation 460 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: with it. No, I'm with you, I'm so with you. 461 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: I am learning, I am learning. So I guess just 462 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: to break it down, like I was the face of 463 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: a couple of different shows now and you know, they 464 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: go on to own my rights and my perpetuity and 465 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: secondary sales and all of this, and I don't see 466 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: any of that. So now this gives me an opportunity 467 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: to create something to own the I P. And then 468 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: also the community that's involved with me gets to sit 469 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: in on the production meetings, the character development calls, and 470 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: actually be involved with the process. So we have an 471 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: interesting point in our in our society right now with 472 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: entertainment specifically and the web three that we can really 473 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,239 Speaker 1: help come together and tell authentic stories. So it's not 474 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: the same people in Hollywood telling the same story. Everything 475 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: funda movie. But yeah, that's I mean, yeah, you're you're 476 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: really doing it all. And I love that you're like, 477 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just whenever I have an idea of doing it, 478 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: like you're just going if your body positivity girl, if 479 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: you need a girl for it, holler. I've always wanted 480 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: to be an animated character, so that thank you so much. 481 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: Thank you. I've always wanted to be like an animated character, 482 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: but but I don't want to just do it. I 483 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: wanted to be something that really represents, like what I 484 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: stand for. I love That's one of my prerecordsits for 485 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: all of the voices, so I will definitely put your 486 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: name in there to the people who are casting the character. 487 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to be voicing Calvin. So I love 488 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: that as you should build out a little or we 489 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: can build out our world. Yeah. Wait, I have a 490 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: question for you, just because I don't um, I know 491 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: that you used to play professional football, and I don't 492 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: know anybody in football, so I just want your take 493 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: on it, because the Tom Brady of it all just 494 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: really confuses me. So he says he retired, and that 495 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: means like, you're retired, like you're not coming back to football, 496 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: And then he just said he's coming back being in 497 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: the professional football world, what would make him like, why 498 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: would he do that? I mean shocked when he announced 499 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: his retirement. Yeah, to your point, the gas price has 500 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: got a little high and he has to go back 501 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: to work. Um, I was shocked that he retired in 502 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: the first place, just because he didn't even get to 503 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: announce it himself and got leaked. It got out there. 504 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: So I just, you know, knowing how not knowing Tom 505 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: at all, but like I have a very good understanding 506 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: of probably how his brain works. I thought that competitiveness 507 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: in him, and I'm sure he's been retired for two 508 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: months and he's seeing everybody out else out there compete 509 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: and get ready, and that that competition aspect of his 510 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: life kicked in, so he probably wanted to return. So 511 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it's hard for people like 512 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: that to sit on the sidelines and watch, especially when 513 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: you've been as successful as you have been with him. 514 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: So nothing at this point would shock me. And anything 515 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: that he wants to do in his life make feelings 516 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: about this, huh me? She does not care. No, I 517 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: don't care. But my boyfriend's really into football, and so 518 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: I like to hear other people say stuff and then 519 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: bring it to him, like I know what I'm talking about. 520 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Some inside But oh gosh, um, 521 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: what's his position again? He's quarterback? Quarterback? Yeah, And I mean, 522 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: you can retire, but whoever was your last contract still 523 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: holds your So he's going to be returning to Tampa Bay. 524 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: So it's not like you can retire and then just 525 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: switch teams when you unretired, So it's whoever holds your 526 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: holds your last contract. You still have to go back 527 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: as long as there was good dinner, dinner time to 528 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, it's obviously he went back to Tampa 529 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: because the last contract holds your card, so you can't 530 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: just like to go back there you go. He's gonna 531 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, he's gonna be like, you're right, but 532 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: where did you learn that love? And then follow it 533 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: follow it up and be like, so, what's your take 534 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: on Antonio Brown? Just ask him that conversation on that 535 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: on my notes page. Antonio Brown. Yes, wait, while she's 536 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: writing that down, are you are you in the wedding 537 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: planning process or are you, um like just enjoying the 538 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: engagement of it all. Well, we've we decided that we 539 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: would just want to enjoy it right now. And then 540 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: like we started looking and I'm realizing, one how backed 541 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: up all of these venues are because of um So 542 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: we we've always wanted to be super nontraditional in our 543 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: approach to our wedding, Like I don't we just he 544 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: has so many friends. I have so many friends that 545 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: are bridal party and our grooms wherever you want to 546 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 1: call our parties are gonna be huge. So we just 547 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: we have a different vision for our our wedding that 548 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: is going to be more of like a celebration and 549 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: a process and is like a ceremony, and it's more 550 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: right now. I'll tell you it's more right now. Building 551 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: the guest list, that is a little tricky because we 552 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: both have the rules of no ring, no bring because 553 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: we just don't want to introduce, have to introduce. Well, yeah, 554 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: to a certain point, like if we haven't met you 555 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: or hung out with you, or have like a relationship 556 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: with you outside of you just being a significant other 557 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: two a friend of ours, We're going to be savage 558 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: sort of say, like we'll see you at the celebration. 559 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: I mean, is it on your wedding you can only 560 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: x amount of minutes with people, and we just want 561 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: to enjoy our cloks, friends and our family. Yeah, I 562 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: get that. I totally respect that. I think I think 563 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: people get so stressed out with who they're inviting that 564 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: they they can't even enjoy themselves because they're planning of 565 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. Bring no brain. That's so funny. 566 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: I've never heard that. Yeah, I said it earlier, and 567 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 1: like I think people dot com misquoted it as like 568 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: no rain, no brain. I was like, what are you 569 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: guys like they misquoted me and something that I said 570 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: when I was like no ring, no brain, because I 571 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: like that was like a term that I thought was 572 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: more common but obviously no, I never heard it. But 573 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: it's very funny. Well now you can adopt it for 574 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: whatever your your guys. And I love the fact that, um, wait, Tony, 575 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: you don't do you still have a code name for 576 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: your guy? I thought it's yeah, no, well he yeah. 577 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: I used to call him red Star, just to um 578 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: for like, what's the word, uh, consistently. Yeah, it's continuity. Yes, 579 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: I call his name's Robbie, and I share him and 580 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: it's not not I don't hide him or anything, but 581 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: for consistency, I call him red Star because it's just 582 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: that's what I started with. So well, I love you 583 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: guys as approaching that because like as somebody who sort 584 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: of had to learn boundaries and like figure out what 585 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: was healthy and write for me and my relationship. Like 586 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: the fact that you guys um are consistent and doing that, 587 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's cool and it's also like relatable. 588 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: Some people get overwhelmed and anxious and they just don't 589 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: need other people in their relationships. So yeah, I think 590 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: it's I it's hard, but I do I find so much. Um, 591 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm so protective in my relationship. And also like I 592 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: think within time it'll eventually all be public. But I 593 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: don't think I'll ever overshare my relationship ever. Again. I 594 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: think I did that with my last one, and I 595 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: just don't. I can share it, but I get to 596 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: choose like how much of it I share. And I 597 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: feel like you've done a really good job with that too, 598 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: Like I don't feel like I feel like you posted 599 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: your open about it, but there's not this like on 600 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: slaught of like content. No, I've learned. I mean obviously 601 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: going through that in the past, you just open yourself 602 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: up to criticism and people that want to dive in. 603 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: I mean even like on Watch What Happens Live, Andy 604 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: asked me if I was signing a prenup and that's 605 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 1: like it went everywhere, and I was just like, what, 606 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: Like I forgot that anything that has to do with 607 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: my relationship people hold on to and have an opinion about. 608 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: And I'm like, shoot, I gotta keep reminding myself just 609 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: to like have an answer to protect protect the relationship. Yeah, 610 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: but I think at the end of the day too, 611 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: which is kind of like everyone's gonna have an opinion 612 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: about everything. So for me, it's like I can't hold 613 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: it in because I love love so much. So it's like, yeah, 614 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: I have to share because I just I can't not. 615 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: But there's like an aspect of So he has two 616 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: kids and he keeps those super super private, so like 617 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: that's really the that's where my line is. That's kind 618 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: of where my boundary is, you know what I mean. 619 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: So it's like I'll share anything about us, but I 620 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: keep his kids out of it, just to respect him 621 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: and them and their privacy. But yeah, I don't know. 622 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: I just think everybody has an opinion, and people people 623 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: DM me stuff all the time. I was like, bye bye, 624 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: bye irol irol irol I don't care, or you respond 625 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: and they're like they send something mean and then I'll 626 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: respond and they're, oh, my gosh, I can't believe you responded. 627 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm like to We have that conversation early on too, 628 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: and he's, you know, he's still working, and he's like, 629 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna work on being more comfortable with being in 630 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: the public, but for right now, like these are sort 631 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: of where I want to stay. He's more private, very 632 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: private Instagram should follow him. He does, Um, he does 633 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: have Instagram, but I don't think we want to announce 634 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: it on here for his sake, Okay, but but yeah, 635 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: I mean he he just wasn't really used to this. 636 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: He's been in the industry, but not really in the industry, 637 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: is in the back background of it with the social 638 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: impact work and the political side of things. Um, but 639 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: he just you know, once again, just like the communication, 640 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: he's like, I understand you're a public figure, and I 641 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 1: understand that, like you get excited in interviews and you 642 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: share what is on your heart and I happen to 643 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: be like part of that now. So he's, you know, 644 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: it's it's very much like I'll try to get more 645 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: comfortable with this, and he's he's just incredible. So oh, 646 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm so happy before you Colton. It's just it's, you 647 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: know what, it's slow and steady, because that's how my 648 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: boyfriend wasn't beginning too, because he's an attorney, so he's 649 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: just like very like not an entertainment industry at all. 650 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: So he thought it was like, he was like, this 651 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: is so weird, and now he could care less. I 652 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 1: can film, I can post whatever I want. About him. 653 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: He just does not care. So it's like it was 654 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: a journey. We had our first we had our first 655 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: airport person come up, and I'm so happy for the 656 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: two of you. Jordan, you're this and he's like, I 657 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: didn't even say my name, how they know my name? 658 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: And I was just like, because if you look over there, 659 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: we're in people like you know, like it's like this 660 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: is part of it. I love him. I love him. 661 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: I feel like he sounds like a perfect balance for 662 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: your life. Yeah, I love that for you. Well, thank 663 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: you for coming on scrubbing in and we are so 664 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: happy that you're happy, and um wish the best for 665 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: you and everything. I'm sure the next time we talk 666 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: to you, you'll have like seven other shows up and 667 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: go and sure and everybody, sure you check out Beyond 668 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: the Edge. It's on Wednesday's CBS. Check your local listings 669 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: for time. Thank you guys for having me on, and 670 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: we love you too. Cold I feel the same way. 671 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: By bye bye