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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. It is that

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Speaker 2: time of week. My name is Bernie Frottle. We are

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Absolute jam packed show tonight. We'll take

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Speaker 2: you up to three am Pacific, six am Eastern. We've

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Speaker 2: got my man, Steve Fesick at the Pheasant five coming

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Speaker 2: up in about twenty minutes. We'll do a rapid fire

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Speaker 2: lightning round game by game NFL break down. Get your

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Speaker 2: pens and pencils radio. Of course we're gonna get him

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Speaker 2: to shodoor Sanders. You think we won't come on. He's

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Speaker 2: making his debut here, well they called it a debut

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Speaker 2: last week. He's starting for the first time in the

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Speaker 2: NFL here in Las Vegas. Kicks off at about fourteen

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Speaker 2: hours and we have a very raucous midnight hour coming up.

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Speaker 2: Lots of NBA stuff for our guy Mark Madeen at

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Speaker 2: one am, including that one guy who's back. What's his name?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: He calls himself the King all smiles. The other night,

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Speaker 2: just one big happy fest against Utah. Got the fantasy,

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Speaker 2: We got everything. Everything that I will go over to

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Speaker 2: the NFL Playoff picture later contenders versus pretenders and much

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Speaker 2: much more.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of pretenders, well, there is a famed actress. She's

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Speaker 2: pretty much done now. Her name is Lily Tomlin and

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Speaker 2: quite a career, and at the un of her curse,

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Speaker 2: she says, you know, I always wanted to be somebody.

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Speaker 2: I just wish I'd been more specific. And when I

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Speaker 2: hear that quote, it I think of it conjures up

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Speaker 2: subject matter like uh USC football, Lincoln Riley and when

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Speaker 2: he got to town four years ago. I mean, according

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Speaker 2: to Colin cawrd, you'd have thought this is a fat,

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Speaker 2: a complete undefeated every year, don't give up a point,

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Speaker 2: National championships. It's almost too easy, man, this is too easy.

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Speaker 2: And I you know, now it feels like the Water

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Speaker 2: Bowl move. Oh no, he suck again. Here we go

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Speaker 2: just a week ago. Lincoln Riley speaking of okay, who

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Speaker 2: wants to be somebody who? But they weren't specific. Who

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Speaker 2: is USC? Who is USC? I remember the great USC

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Speaker 2: teams and when they really were USC? And can they

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Speaker 2: ever get back to that? Yeah? Yeah, but I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's gonna happen in Lincoln Riley up all due respect.

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Speaker 2: He talked about last week's dramatic victory over Iowa in

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Speaker 2: the rainstorm as quote a culture win, a culture win.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he was talking about the Culture Club and boy

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Speaker 2: George for all I know, google it if you don't

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Speaker 2: know it, knuckleheads. It only tookhimout a week for all

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Speaker 2: that good vibe to fade. The Trojans repeatedly made mistakes

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Speaker 2: Saturday that cost them at Oregon. They were ten and

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Speaker 2: a half point underdog. Surely you just Oregon wouldn't win

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Speaker 2: by two score. Now they did. They actually won by

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Speaker 2: three scores. USC fans I don't really appreciate I can

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Speaker 2: imagine they don't really appreciate another punt return. Well, a

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Speaker 2: punt return. Elite Fence's eighty five yard run broke a

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Speaker 2: fourteen fourteen tie. And it's plays like that that just

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Speaker 2: change a game. And if it looked from there, deja

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Speaker 2: vu all over again, Yogi. It happened at Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: a few weeks back. It was a kickoff return earlier

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Speaker 2: in the season. They flipped the momentum, so out beend.

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Speaker 2: So two terrible road losses. USC would not be going

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Speaker 2: fruit basket, go to the Peach Bowl and play two Lane.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, wait, you don't want you know they

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Speaker 2: lost to to Lane, which USC fans will never forget.

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Speaker 2: And that was in the Lincoln Rally air. By the way,

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Speaker 2: nothing against Jade Maavi's had a good year former unb transfer.

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Speaker 2: But a couple of interceptions today, multiple drive extending defensive

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Speaker 2: pass interferences later. Well, let's put it this way. USC

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Speaker 2: is not a championship caliber outfit. In case you haven't

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Speaker 2: noticed now, they should close the season at nine and three.

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Speaker 2: They beat UCLA next week. That's at this point. And

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Speaker 2: I told my buddy Steve Hart, and I was a

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Speaker 2: big UCLA fan back in the day, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what in the world's happened to that. That's school. But

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Speaker 2: beating UCLA let next week, that's like being what the

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Speaker 2: best hockey player in Argentina. But nine to three, which

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Speaker 2: I just told you about Lane Kiffin being ten and

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Speaker 2: to post nine to win seasons. They hired him to

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Speaker 2: prove on Saturday that he has a tremendous ceiling. If

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Speaker 2: it's not they're projecting what he can be someday. So

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Speaker 2: here's the key. He threw for four touchdowns, even caught

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Speaker 2: the last quarterback to throw a touchdown pass, run for

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Speaker 2: How about Brenton Venables. You know, lying in the weeds

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Speaker 2: He keeps it simple. They just line up and kick

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Speaker 2: your butt. They hold Missouri to six points, and Venables

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Speaker 2: set afterwards, set to himself quote, it's not pretty, but

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Speaker 2: this is not a beauty contest. But winning is not

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Speaker 2: ugly for any program. Just ask if you're looking for

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Speaker 2: a sure thing in college football. Oklahoma's defense is about

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Speaker 2: And remember, after next weekend. After next weekend, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: fairly nondescript day in college football. I wanted to point

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Speaker 2: to point out March Arch Manning, and like I said,

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Speaker 2: I promise you we are going to get to Shudor Sanders. Now,

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Speaker 2: him either. I route for the story. And the most

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Speaker 2: are you going to juxtapose your expectations on someone who, hey,

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Speaker 2: let's face it, he's just a fifth round draft pick.

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Speaker 2: Lots of fifth round draft picks have made a debut

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Speaker 2: They've only won nineteen times in those debuts, completed about

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Speaker 2: fifty percent of their passes passer passing about one hundred

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Speaker 2: has been thirty three touchdowns, seventy two interceptions and passed

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Speaker 2: everybody wants to complain about the fact that Shudor had

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Speaker 2: He doesn't process what he sees. He drifts back in

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Speaker 2: including on his opening possession. You know, all the Ravens

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Speaker 2: You know, hey, maybe the Ravens were set up. They

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Speaker 2: able to prepare for the great Schodor Sanders. He did

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Speaker 2: call himself legendary. There's another guy who I always want

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Speaker 2: to be. Somebody wish I was more specific. Look, the

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Speaker 2: that would be the real story. If he comes in

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Speaker 2: there and stinks it up in Las Vegas, so what,

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Speaker 2: That's just another story from the Naked City. We've seen

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Speaker 2: millions of those. But let's be honest. The only people

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Speaker 2: well it wasn't. Frankly, his approach to the pre Daft

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Speaker 2: for future quarterbacks. You simply cannot declare yourself something you

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Speaker 2: here is Sanders is a good football player. He in

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Speaker 2: seen some stinkers, including last Sunday. The fact Sanders had

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Speaker 2: Sanders averaged the fewest yards per drop at one point

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Speaker 2: The good news is Sanders gets to prove us all

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Speaker 2: Steve Fesswick. Get your pens and pencils ready. You will

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Speaker 2: be drinking through a fire hose. All kinds of information,

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Speaker 2: lots of really interesting game Sunday, Indianapolis at Kansas City's

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Speaker 9: I am excellent, Bernie? Thanksgiving fast approaches it is?

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Speaker 2: It is all right. Of course I'll be eating and

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Speaker 2: Best Bets, which people love to hear about. They involve totals.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs laying three fast? How do you feel about transitive property?

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Speaker 2: Because last week the Chiefs were laying four in Denver?

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Speaker 9: That's the only way I could look Bernie Ot. The

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Speaker 9: Colts haven't looked nearly as good precision timing team on

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Speaker 9: the line on this game is three point twenty five.

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Speaker 9: What the heck does that mean? Well, there's three is

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Speaker 9: Every time I come on I talk about it. Kansas

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Speaker 9: City minus three, I think really good wager Kansas City

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Speaker 9: minus three and a half, I think garbage. I've got

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Speaker 9: Kansas City two points better than Indy. Give them one

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Speaker 9: for home field. It makes the game three. But the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like listen, they're an eight and two

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Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, is JJ McCarthy two and zero and his

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I would bet Vikings plus seven. I don't want

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Speaker 9: going to treat him with kid gloves this week. Be

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Speaker 9: So on my best bet here one of my best

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Speaker 2: That might be a good play. That might be a

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Speaker 2: But you got Detroit Luby next week and Thanksgiving. They

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Speaker 2: to Eagles at Dallas Eagles in their last two games,

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Speaker 2: of course, they've won, but only combined for twenty six

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Speaker 2: points in their last two games. Meanwhile, Dak Prescott four

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Speaker 2: I'm kidding, but Dallas plus three is a trendy play.

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Speaker 9: Yeah again, I'm boring. The play was Dallas plus three

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Speaker 9: Philly is going to win this game by exactly three.

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Speaker 9: So think about that. If Dallas was a fifty five

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Speaker 9: three and a half, you go fifty five and forty five.

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Speaker 9: You're styling, you're making lots of money, but you turned

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Speaker 9: in this game. I think totally different scenario. Remember these

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Speaker 2: Eight says I want to jump to this Sunday night

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Speaker 2: But this is going to be another transitive property question.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the Buffalo is power ratings of five and a half.

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Speaker 9: five points, five points favorite.

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Speaker 2: So here's what's interesting. Buffalo was laying five against the

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Speaker 9: Well, I go back to my power ratings. I got

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Speaker 9: Give the Rams one and a half for home field,

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Speaker 2: So I didn't pull the trigger. I looked long and

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Speaker 9: He real important with this Bernie Sunday night football, public's

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Speaker 9: night football. Where I'm going is the good story is

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Speaker 2: I think if we get seven and a half of Post,

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Speaker 2: I'll throw some pizza money on Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay

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Speaker 9: It's the double Fugasey game of the week. We want

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Speaker 9: we fade them the rest of the year. The Bears,

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Speaker 9: they keep winning games twenty five, twenty four by miracles,

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Speaker 9: sorry to be a broken record. If I've been working

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Speaker 9: on many, many betting syndicates and this is the way

432
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Speaker 9: it works. People like there's this myth that people like, oh,

433
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Speaker 9: there's a right side and the wrong side. Total crap.

434
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Speaker 9: Not true. The right side is Pittsburgh plus three. You

435
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 9: bet Pittsburgh plus three, you make a lot of money

436
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Speaker 9: sports betting. If you bet Pittsburgh plus two, you lose.

437
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Speaker 9: That's the bottom line. And you know what I keep

438
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Speaker 9: looking at. It's getting close. There's like a plus three

439
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Speaker 9: miles one fifteen out there and betting exchanges.

440
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Speaker 10: I'm holding out.

441
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Speaker 9: For plus three. I may never get it, but that's

442
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Speaker 9: what I want.

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Speaker 2: I was able to get plus three, and I would

444
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Speaker 2: say this, you look for stringth versus weakness in anticapping.

445
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Speaker 2: You and I go back fifteen years. I like to

446
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Speaker 2: talk about technical aspects and fundamental aspects. The technical aspect

447
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Speaker 2: is Mike Tomlin's been pretty damn good as a dog

448
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Speaker 2: in his career. Anybody can look that up. But I

449
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: look for a mismatch here, and I actually think Pittsburgh's

450
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Speaker 2: pass rush he's gonna wreak havoc on Caleb Williams, who

451
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Speaker 2: lets you run around like Ben It's queue up the

452
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Speaker 2: Benny Hill music. He lets you run around like a

453
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Speaker 2: whirling dervish, and he's he's been getting away with it.

454
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Speaker 2: And I just think tomorrow comes crashing or Sunday comes

455
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Speaker 2: crashing down. Do you factor that in at all. Mike

456
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Speaker 2: Tomlin in the defensive scheme, lots of stunts and a

457
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Speaker 2: pretty pretty robust pass rush, which is gonna put a

458
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Speaker 2: lot of pressure on Caleb Williams. Do you factor that

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Speaker 2: end at all? Oh?

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Speaker 9: Sure, you know the bear? Curiously, the Bear's old line

461
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Speaker 9: is actually pretty good. But you're right Williams like he

462
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Speaker 9: feels pressure that is non existent. He sees ghosts. I

463
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Speaker 9: I don't like. I don't like Rogers, so I don't

464
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Speaker 9: mind if I if I get Rudolph at all. I

465
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Speaker 9: certainly don't like Kayleb Williams right now. So well, there's

466
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Speaker 9: lots of reasons to think they're headed to overtime, and

467
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Speaker 9: I don't know who's gonna win.

468
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Speaker 2: All right. Another trendy play, but full disclosure, I am

469
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Speaker 2: not involved on this one. The pant catching seven at

470
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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers again. Another Monday night game. It's

471
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Speaker 2: a Monday night game. It's a standalone TV game. Bryce Jong,

472
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Speaker 2: who I always believe that come around and he's done another.

473
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Speaker 2: Dave Canalis through for a franchise record four hundred and

474
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Speaker 2: forty eight yards last week against Atlanta, And you know,

475
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Speaker 2: don't look now, but the Niners get their points to

476
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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey leads to the NFL with fourteen and thirty

477
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Speaker 2: nine yards from scammage. I can't find the side in

478
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Speaker 2: that game. I know that caroenlining has been a trendy play,

479
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 2: but it might turn into being over. Do you have

480
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Speaker 2: any thoughts on that game? Sider total?

481
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Speaker 9: Yeah, you can talk me into the over. You can

482
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Speaker 9: talk me into the Niners team total over. Bryce Young

483
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Speaker 9: can't play on the road, so that's a problem. And

484
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Speaker 9: with a sky high total at fifty and both teams

485
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Speaker 9: are getting healthier. If you like the Niners, the best

486
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Speaker 9: advice I'd give is you can tease it right now

487
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Speaker 9: mina seven downward, or you can lay my seven. If

488
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Speaker 9: you like the Panthers, I'm very confident that you will

489
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Speaker 9: get plus seven and a half. Write at post. Personally,

490
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Speaker 9: I did the Niners in teasers. It's them with the Rems,

491
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Speaker 9: with Arizona and with Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Fez. Let's go to a game, and I know you're

493
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Speaker 2: gonna punch me through the phone, But I do this

494
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Speaker 2: maybe once a year, maybe once every two years, where

495
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Speaker 2: I will lay double digit. So earlier in the week

496
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Speaker 2: I laid the Lions minus ten and a half. But

497
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Speaker 2: you gotta know this about Dan. By the way, you

498
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Speaker 2: got the happless New York Giants and Jamis Winston come

499
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 2: to the town when it mattered most last week. What does

500
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Speaker 2: jameson Jamis Winston do. Throws it a pick in the

501
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: end zone and turns it over. So you got the

502
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Speaker 2: hapless Giants who mainly the season the happless Jameis Winston. Meanwhile,

503
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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell the last thirteen games he has lost, coming

504
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Speaker 2: off a loss thirteen to zero, straight up and against

505
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Speaker 2: the number by an average of eighteen points. Six points. Okay,

506
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: it doesn't exist anymore. The ten and a half. I

507
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: think it's up to thirteen and a half. But I

508
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 2: gotta tell you, Fez, it wouldn't surprise me if they

509
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: covered it. Do you have any thoughts on this game?

510
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Speaker 9: Your handicap, it's consistent with mine. Let me ask you

511
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 9: who's who's the better quarterback Marx or Jameis Winston and

512
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 9: by how much?

513
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Speaker 2: Well, remember we're talking about golf. You're a golfer. Oh,

514
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Marx.

515
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 9: Dart Dart for the dark Jackson Dart.

516
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: Oh Dart Dart all day and every day by two points,

517
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Speaker 2: by two and a half points.

518
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 9: Where I'm going is that.

519
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: I'd say, I'd say by more, I'd say I would

520
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: so go far as to safe. It's good, a good,

521
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: good conversation. Lastly, week before when Denver, I would say,

522
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Speaker 2: if he Jackson Dart would have started against Green Bay,

523
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: the Giants would have won. Yeah.

524
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a great point because they absolutely that did

525
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 9: catch them to give that. That's your handicap if you

526
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Speaker 9: believe that lay the thirteen with the line oh no.

527
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Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not laying it, no no, But I

528
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: laid the ten and a half. But I think there

529
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: are people out there laying the thirteen and a half

530
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 2: and with the scores thirty one to six in the

531
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Speaker 2: fourth quarter, and why didn't I see that coming? We

532
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: both know you can't lay double digit in the NFL.

533
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: But every now and then, you know, you get a

534
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: little man of from heaven and you're going up against

535
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Speaker 2: Jamis Winston and a mad Lions team, and these numbers

536
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: don't lie. As a matter of fact, I believe the

537
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions have played fifty five games. In the last

538
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: fifty five games, they have not lost two in a row.

539
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Speaker 9: I will give you a same game parlay four legs, Bernie,

540
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 9: I'll have played Detroit to the over. I'll play Gibbs

541
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 9: rush yards over. I'll play Montgomery rush yards over. Detroit

542
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 9: kills them. That's a fun play, pays about seven to one,

543
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 9: and I like it's consistent completely with your handicap, which

544
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 9: is logical.

545
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: All right, let's finish up here, Fez in Las Vegas,

546
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: where we both live. The Cleveland Browns come to town.

547
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: This kid, Shadoor Sanders making his first career start under center. Now,

548
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 2: this is a tremendous mismatch on the interior Lions. I

549
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: believe Cleveland will pressure Gino Smith and hit them more

550
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: than a Rocky Balboa. And at the same time, I

551
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: believe they'll be able to product Shood or Sanders somewhat,

552
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: except for maybe Max Crosby having said that, do you

553
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: like Cleveland plus to four? Now down down to three

554
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: and a half or my favorite go ahead?

555
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 9: My favorite line from Rocky the Original was ken Balbo

556
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 9: would go three rounds because Vegas says no. I agree

557
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 9: with the money on Cleveland plus four. I mean, the

558
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 9: Raiders are bad on offense and they're bad on defense.

559
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 9: The Browns are horrendous on offense and good on defense.

560
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 9: So from a simple handicap, the only like good group

561
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 9: out there is the Browns defense. So Sanders doesn't turn

562
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 9: it over again, we're head to overtime. If we head

563
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 9: to overtime, then the Browns should cover plus four.

564
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: I think the Browns went out right, but I also

565
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: think Sanders are turning it over. They got a guy

566
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: by the name of Quinn Shawn Judkins. And we both

567
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: know I'm not a prop player. I stay in my lane,

568
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: but I gotta believe quin Shawn Judkins prop. What is

569
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: his yards prop tomorrow? Like sixty nine yards something like that,

570
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: you may know.

571
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 9: That's why I'm sure he'd be low eighties. I would

572
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 9: much rather play him usage like over twenty carries and

573
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 9: to play his yardage.

574
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I think his yardage might be a good play.

575
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: I do.

576
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 9: They're going to stack the box, he's he's not going

577
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 9: to be able to get the yardage, or if he does,

578
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 9: he's going to do it Bernie with twenty four carries.

579
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, okay, that's fair enough. And that's exactly why

580
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: I don't play props. And of course, one of our

581
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: favorite shows is the Super Bowl show. You play about

582
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: sixty props every year and you count your money in

583
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: The Brainstruck on the following Monday says, let's get to

584
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: your two best bets. They both involve totals. We talked

585
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: about the Minnesota Green Bay game earlier. Give the peeps

586
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: your thoughts.

587
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, so two unders. I'm gonna go Minnesota Green Bay

588
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 9: under forty one and a half where vike yous don't

589
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 9: trust the quarterback and the Packers play so slow and

590
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 9: they're missing their pieces. And Philly Dallas we've seen the

591
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 9: complete reversal of the Eagles have gone from a high

592
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 9: flying offense to a dead nut under team holding down

593
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 9: marquee teams but not being able to score in Dallas

594
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 9: third defense is very much improved. If you could get

595
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 9: Pittsburgh plus three, they would become a best bet as well.

596
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, So we have one more best bet

597
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: from the great Steve Phasick and the Physic five, and

598
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: once again it involves a total. Let's go back to

599
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: the Philly Dallas game. Your thoughts on that?

600
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, Like I just said, I see a completely different

601
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 9: first half from what we saw week one. I see

602
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 9: a very close to the best game and the Eagles

603
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 9: running clock, and that's what they're doing, Bernie, that's how

604
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 9: they They just won a game, you know, thirteen to six.

605
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 9: So I see more of the same game plan they

606
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 9: had against Detroit. We're going under Philly Dallas under forty eight.

607
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: Okay, and you like the Minnesota Green beyonder as well?

608
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: You like both those unders?

609
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 9: Absolutely?

610
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 4: Yes.

611
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: Now one last thing. This is kind of impromptu. Typically

612
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: you are one to recommend maybe one teaser play and

613
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: I actually have one in mind, and I like and

614
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: I run it by you, and this would be our

615
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: last question. I actually like Arizona catching the points at

616
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: home and Pittsburgh catching the points. Your thoughts on both

617
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: of those, So those are both teased through the key

618
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: numbers of three, four, six, and seven on the dog side.

619
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, I'll endorse it, but I'm home, Like I said,

620
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 9: I'm hold now for Pittsburgh plus three. I'm not going

621
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 9: to go through all the maps. Pittsburgh plus three is

622
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 9: better than teasing Pittsburgh at plus two and a half.

623
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 9: But I may never get the plus three and if

624
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 9: I don't get it right before that game gigs off,

625
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 9: Bernie Boum, I will get involved with Pittsburgh Teasers and

626
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 9: Arizona and the forty nine ers are excellent candidates, as

627
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 9: is I like the Atlanta Falcons and the Teaser as well.

628
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: Oh and Kirk Cousins, Wow, you like to live dangerously.

629
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Speaker 9: No one's going to score in that game either.

630
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: This this Atlanta team, man is a twenty car pile up.

631
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 2: To me, They're just They're a mess, Just a mess. Fez,

632
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: great stuff. Tell the folks where they can find your

633
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: great work.

634
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm at says ex Sports on Twitter slash X

635
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 9: and good luck to everyone with your wagers and appreciate

636
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 9: you having the f on here late on a Saturday night.

637
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: All right, as we'll talk soon, buddy, Thanks a lot,

638
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: that is Thank you. Fessik five the only two time

639
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: back to back winter of the prestigious Hilton now Westgate

640
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Speaker 2: Super Contest. All right, coming up, we are going to

641
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: have another rock. It's midnight hour. It's the callers who

642
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: make the mennight hour. From where I sit, we are

643
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: twenty minutes away from midnight literally twelve midnight, but from

644
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Speaker 2: where you sit perhaps twelve midnight literally but certainly figuratively,

645
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Speaker 2: which means the midnight hour. You get the last word.

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Speaker 2: Warm up your fingers eight seven, seven, nine, ninety six,

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Speaker 2: six three sixty nine, eight seven, seven, nine and nine

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Speaker 2: on Fox. We will have three topics tonight. One of

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Speaker 2: them it might be Shdor Sanders. I'll tell you the

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Speaker 2: anul I'm coming from for the best pregame show every weekend,

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Speaker 2: be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radios Countdown to

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Speaker 2: and the iHeart Radio app. Coming up to midnight hour,

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Speaker 2: We're nineteen minutes away. Get your fingers ready to dial

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Speaker 2: in eight seven, seven, nine, nine sixty six, three seven

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Speaker 2: six nine, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. I'll

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Speaker 2: set up the three topics on the table in just

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Speaker 2: a second. I'm Bernie Faddle or Keney Lyon from Las

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Speaker 2: Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked or listening

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Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports.

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Speaker 1: Radio don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, back of the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox spor Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are twelve minutes away from the midnight hour. See

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Speaker 2: from where I sit here in Las Vegas, the clock

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Speaker 2: will strike midnight in twelve minutes from where you sit,

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Speaker 2: perhaps the same, but literally and figuratively all of us.

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Speaker 2: For all of us, it's the midnight hour, which means you,

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Speaker 2: as the callers, get the last word. Eight seven, seven,

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Speaker 2: nine nine sixty six three six nine ninety nine one.

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Speaker 2: Fox really look forward to hearing from there. All right,

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Speaker 2: we have three topics. Number one, the lovable, irrefutable, indefatigable

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Speaker 2: Draymond Green, He's always there. Had an incident this week

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Speaker 2: with a fan. Now, let's set this up. There was

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Speaker 2: an eight second sequence in a game where he missed

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Speaker 2: a lap, got his offensive rebound, missed the tip shot,

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Speaker 2: got an offensive rebound, missed another tip shot, got an

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Speaker 2: offensive rebound, missed another tip shot, got an offensive rebound,

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Speaker 2: and then missed a one foot tip shot. Yes, you

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00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: heard that correct, over a period of eight seconds. So

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00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: some fans started calling him Angel Reese. Now, according to

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Speaker 2: Draymond's version, the first time it was funny. He kind

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Speaker 2: of laughed it off, but the fan apparently repeated it.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't there, so my account's third hand, but that's

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Speaker 2: been what's been reported. So Draymond saunters over, the fan

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Speaker 2: gets face to face with him, and the fan stands

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Speaker 2: up and I don't know if the guy was standing

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Speaker 2: on a chair what, but he's as big as Draymon.

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Speaker 2: So they were looking at each other kind of silly,

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Speaker 2: and the fan puts his hands out. Now here's here's

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Speaker 2: the situation. Apparently, when reached for comment later, what really triggered,

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Speaker 2: you know, what really cranked his tractor, as you would

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Speaker 2: say in terms of the perspective from Draymond, was hey, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm married, I got three kids, four kids, and one

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Speaker 2: of the way, no one's calling me a woman. That's

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Speaker 2: what I believe. Draymond's quote was, you ain't gonna call

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Speaker 2: me a woman. That was what got him. But as

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Speaker 2: you all know, as I've said it a thought sometimes

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Speaker 2: I was there for the mouse at the palace, and

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Speaker 2: it's just a matter of time for one of these

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Speaker 2: happens again. I really believe it. I'm not wishing it,

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Speaker 2: I'm not predicting it. I just feel that it's it's

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Speaker 2: gonna It was such spontaneous combustion that night in November nineteen,

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Speaker 2: two thousand and four, we just we just had the

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Speaker 2: what the twenty first anniversary of it? So who but

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Speaker 2: who's sad? Are you on the fan pays his ticket?

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00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 2: He wasn't completely stupid online. It's not something I would

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Speaker 2: have said. But are you more mad at the fan?

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Speaker 2: Or are you more mad at Draymond? Because again, Draymond

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Speaker 2: has a body of work, you know that. So topic

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Speaker 2: number one, I want to know how you feel about

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Speaker 2: that situation. Are you on Draymond's side or the fans side?

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Speaker 2: It's like a thing. I want to take you back

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Speaker 2: to Monday night football. All right, if you saw the game,

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Speaker 2: Dallas beat the Raiders like a rented mule. They went

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Speaker 2: up and down and up and down, and it was

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Speaker 2: just forget it. Dallas looks very good on offense and

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Speaker 2: they're improving on defense, and this just is not the

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Speaker 2: Raiders year. Okay. I remember those great Raiders teams of

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Speaker 2: the of the eighties, and frankly, I think this team

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Speaker 2: could beat those teams. But then again, most of those

726
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Speaker 2: guys are seventy five years old. The bottom line is this,

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Speaker 2: we saw something with two minutes and forty seconds to

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Speaker 2: go that I don't think i've ever seen. Somebody told

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Speaker 2: me this might have happened in the Kansas City game too,

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Speaker 2: but I don't remember it. Here's what we saw. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, for those those betters who had the

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Speaker 2: over of forty nine points, they're probably still chewing nails

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Speaker 2: about what happened. So Brian Schottenheimer, well, I think he's

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Speaker 2: done a pretty good job. He's won me over. He

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Speaker 2: seems to have the comportment and the wherewithal to be

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Speaker 2: an NFL head coach, and I'm curious to see what

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Speaker 2: he can do if he gets a couple of three years,

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Speaker 2: at least three years. Well, with two minutes and forty

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Speaker 2: seconds to go and Dallas leading thirty three to sixteen,

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Speaker 2: he took a knee. He had two minutes and forty

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Speaker 2: seconds to go, and he'd gotten a two minute warning,

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Speaker 2: yet took fort knees. Then the Raiders get the damn

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Speaker 2: ball back with about forty seconds and they take a knee.

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Speaker 2: They go into the victory formation without claiming victory. Maybe

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Speaker 2: they were saying we had enough from the Raiders perspective,

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Speaker 2: let's not get anybody hurt. I don't know. I can't read.

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Speaker 2: It's against a lot of practice psychology. We got a license,

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Speaker 2: and it's tough to read minds. But when Brian Schotenheimer

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Speaker 2: did that, I wasn't sure to read it at the time.

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Speaker 2: Was it a sign of disrespect to Pete Carroll or

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Speaker 2: which I don't think it was, like, yeah, you know

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Speaker 2: what we were done toying with you guys. We're just

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Speaker 2: gonna let you off the hook like a mercy rule.

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Speaker 2: Or was it a sign of respect? Okay, look the

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Speaker 2: games decide, let's get out of here. We worked together

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00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: in Seattle few years ago, so I know when you

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00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: know the Chiefs did the ring around the Rosie a

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Speaker 2: while back, and there have been people that have disrespected

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Speaker 2: the Raiders in the last couple of years, right, going

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Speaker 2: for two points when they're up fifty, that kind of Look.

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Speaker 2: The bottom line is I wanted to give me your thoughts. Okay,

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Speaker 2: do you think it was a sign of disrespect or

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Speaker 2: a sign of respect that Dallas took a knee with

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Speaker 2: two minutes and forty seconds to go, So got the

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Speaker 2: Draymond Green versus the fan who sat are you on?

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Speaker 2: And was it disrespect or respect when Dallas, you know,

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Speaker 2: just took a knee with two minutes and forty seconds

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Speaker 2: to go. Right, let's get this Shador Sanders? Is it

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Speaker 2: possi He's got a golden opportunity Sunday, a golden opportunity.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to ask you for a prediction on

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Speaker 2: how you think he does, or you can give one

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Speaker 2: if you want, But what I really want to hear

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Speaker 2: from you is how do you view Deon Sanders now? Because,

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Speaker 2: believe it or not, somehow the young guy who drove

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Speaker 2: a Bentley or a Rolex got speeding tickets. It's all

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Speaker 2: going away tomorrow, Okay, all the silliness, the biffing, the interviews.

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Speaker 2: Is he seen in as an underdog now? As his

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Speaker 2: poor little fifth round guy who's coming in? Is he

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Speaker 2: an underdog? Or how do you see Shodor? He's really

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Speaker 2: a first round and he's gonna prove it tomorrow. How

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00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: do you view Shoodor going into his first start? Forget predictions?

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Speaker 2: So we got Draymon versus the fan were at the

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Speaker 2: Raiders and the Cowboys victory formation. Was it a sign

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Speaker 2: of disrespect or respect? And Shudor Sanders. Is he an

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Speaker 2: underdog now? Eight seven, seven nine nine six six three

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Speaker 2: sixty nine. Time for the bed that hour and the

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show. That's right, you heard the man. Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fraddle Show keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fraddlewick Company. Line from the Fox Sports Radio studios here

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Take you up to three and Pacific

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Speaker 2: six a m easterward. The phone lines are packed, so

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Speaker 2: without further ado, well, yep, it's time. It's been that hour,

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Speaker 2: So the three topics real quickly. Draymond Green, in an

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Speaker 2: eight second span last week, missed a lab four tip

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Speaker 2: shots and got four of his own rebounds, prompting a

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Speaker 2: fan in the front row to call him Angel Reith.

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Speaker 2: Draymond didn't like it, face to face, toe to toad.

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Speaker 2: Nothing happened, of course, But who's side are you?

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Speaker 11: On?

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Speaker 2: The fans? He's got a right to talk or Draymond?

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00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: Raymond's got a body work number two. Two minutes and

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Speaker 2: forty seconds to go Monday night, the Cowboys leading thirty

803
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Speaker 2: three to sixteen, they take a knee against the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Was that a sign of respect to Pete Carroll? We

805
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: don't want to beat you up anymore? Or was it

806
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: a sign of disrespect? You know where I'm going with that.

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Speaker 2: And then the third thing, should Or Sanders? Shudor did

808
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Speaker 2: not look like an NFL starting quarterback for most of

809
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Speaker 2: his time last Sunday. He holds the ball too long,

810
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Speaker 2: he's not processing, he runs out of the back of

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Speaker 2: the pocket. Look, it's not been great for fifth rounders

812
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: as they start NFL games and make a debut. It's

813
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: happened fifty six times. He only went ninety. The numbers

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00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: are good. But how do you view shoot Or Sanders?

815
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 2: Is he morphed into an underdog, a simple fifth round guy.

816
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: The whole world's out to get him, all the conspiracy theorists.

817
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: Is that possible? Let's go to the phone lines, because

818
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: it's the callers that make the man out of our

819
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: so great Kyle here in Las Vegas, you are in

820
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Speaker 2: the leadoff spot tonight. You're Ricky Henderson and.

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Speaker 12: That buddy, Oh my goodness, I'm I'm ecstatic. First off,

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Speaker 12: for I love this segment, Bernie. I'll wait every weekend

823
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 12: just to do this, just to do this, get the

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Speaker 12: talk sports with my main guy in Vegas holding it down.

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00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 12: So absolutely love it. First off, go Bears. Although that's

826
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 12: gonna be a joke of a game. That's out the way,

827
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Speaker 12: all right. Draymond can't be upset. Reason being is because

828
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 12: when those same fans are heckling Angel Reese calling her Draymond,

829
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 12: she doesn't turn around and get upset.

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00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: Not what he did.

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Speaker 12: So just taking a roll with it, buddy. It's guys

832
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 12: that are drinking. I'm not even gonna blame it on

833
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 12: the alcohol. The song says, don't blame it on the liquor,

834
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 12: So we ain't gonna blame it on that. The guy

835
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 12: got share with the mouse, He got reckless, he talked,

836
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 12: he said what he said, He stood on ground, he

837
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Speaker 12: stood on business. Even once Draymond came to his face.

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Speaker 4: He called it.

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Speaker 2: He said it to his face.

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Speaker 12: So Raymond is a man. You can't be upset by

841
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 12: that because he didn't say it. And you know, like

842
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 12: the lady who yelled at Lebron James a few years ago,

843
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 12: and you have the security yelling, hey, watch your mouth, lady,

844
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 12: it wasn't something like that. The man said it straight

845
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 12: to your face, called you, Angel Reese. You can't be

846
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Speaker 12: upset with that.

847
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Speaker 2: Number two extra points for the Jamie Fox but blame

848
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Speaker 2: it alcohol.

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Speaker 12: Go ahead, keep going the second one, the victory formation,

850
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 12: with that two minutes left. Listen, we all know that

851
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 12: the unwritten mercy rules, right when when you see that

852
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 12: you're getting up there in points yards whatever, If you're

853
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 12: not about to break a game record or anything like that,

854
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 12: just call it a day, give it a ball.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

856
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 12: I mean, we've all played basketball football in the backyard

857
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 12: where somebody is just non stop winning and you can't

858
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 12: score a point and it's just bully ball. It's like

859
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 12: watching the guy plays street fighter and you just got

860
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 12: him in the corner doing the same move over and

861
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 12: over and over again. You know he's not gonna win,

862
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 12: so you give him a win.

863
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 13: Right.

864
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: So here's just a sign of respect because Bryan Schottenheimer.

865
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 12: And it was more and good It was more in.

866
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: Good faith, good faith. Okay, fair enough, and then.

867
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 12: With your door listen, we know all like the kid.

868
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 12: I've said plenty of times on the show. The biggest

869
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 12: thing with Shador is are you coming in there with

870
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 12: JaMarcus Russell mindset? Are you coming in there with a

871
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 12: TV twelve mindset? If you come in there with a

872
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 12: TV twelve mindset, remember he was almost myster irrelevant, and

873
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 12: look look where he is now today. He went in

874
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 12: there with I'm gonna take this chance. I'm gonna take

875
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 12: my opportunities. I'm gonna make the best of him. Shardor

876
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 12: my guy buddy, stay in the pocket. Approach the game

877
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 12: and the mannerism that it should be approached in. Take

878
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 12: it serious. We don't need another We don't need another

879
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 12: James Winston out there. We already got one in the world.

880
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 12: We don't need another clown show playing quarterback. He's fun

881
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 12: to watch, is he Cam Newton?

882
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 14: Is?

883
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 12: I think he can be. He can be another Cam

884
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 12: Newton type of quarterback. But we gotta just focus on

885
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 12: one game at a time. Take today's game, take tomorrow's game,

886
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 12: and just go in that with TV twelve, not JaMarcus Russell,

887
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 12: Bernie as always, I love you, my brother, be safe

888
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 12: out here. You already know you do your thing on

889
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 12: the radio every weekend.

890
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, man, And by the way, not for nothing,

891
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: because Cam Newton deserves this. In his NFL debut, he

892
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: threw for four und and twenty two yards and two touchdowns,

893
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: completed sixty six percent of his passes, even ran for

894
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 2: a touchdown, just saying, so we're gonna be watching someday.

895
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: I'll keep it up in mind him in Massachusetts.

896
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 13: Welcome in, Jim, Hey, what's going on? Bernie?

897
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 4: Hey?

898
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 13: The Draymond dream thing? When you mentioned that I was

899
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 13: driving the workoutse laugh and that was so funny. You

900
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 13: know what he should have done?

901
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 15: You were, so, what do you mean saying, I'm angel reach.

902
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 13: She's way better looking than me, right, And I would

903
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 13: have ran back up the court. I would have played

904
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 13: with it. But he, you know, he's just got issues,

905
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 13: you know, since probably yeah, yeah, and you just got

906
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 13: to let that go. You know, he doesn't know how

907
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 13: to let stuff roll off. That's the way I would

908
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 13: have dealt with it. But he's never been in that position.

909
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 13: So it's you know, he's in a quiet taste either

910
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 13: like him or you don't, you know, Uh, take him

911
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 13: the knee. Uh, I think that was okay. You know,

912
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 13: it's all part of the game and you know and

913
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 13: stuff like that. I can understand that to a degree.

914
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, you got to let that ride.

915
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 13: As it is. That's an elite group to the NFL.

916
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 13: You know, there's only so many coaches and so many

917
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 13: players within that bora, so I think everybody liked that

918
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 13: that happened. Shakur Sanders. I think he's gonna have a

919
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 13: good game. I think he's gonna practice. He's gonna practice

920
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 13: all week with his starters. I mean, you gotta get rapport.

921
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, I always have to get talked to.

922
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 13: But you can see it in the other ten guys

923
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 13: in the huddles, eyes and everything. You know, like where

924
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 13: would you? We got your back and we'll see what happened.

925
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 13: I think he's gonna be okay, just stay within the system,

926
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 13: don't get too crazy. Like you said, He's gonna read

927
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 13: a little bit faster more, but you got to play.

928
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 13: You can't have one without the other. So you know,

929
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 13: I'm pulling for him. Let's see what he does.

930
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: Ernie fair enough. I think you thanks a lot. Jim

931
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 2: appreciate it. So both Coyl and Jim positive on you,

932
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: and I'm fine with that. I mean, it's again, it's

933
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: a don't tell me, show me situation, and I think

934
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: you'll see him hand the ball to Quinn Shawn Judkins

935
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: a lot. But they're gonna have to pass as well.

936
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: The Raiders are going to load the bay and we'll

937
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: see where it goes. Show us check that Stephen Kansasity,

938
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: how are you do you? Sorry about that? Man?

939
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 15: Hey, Bernie, how's it going bout it? Enjoying enjoying the

940
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 15: weather and the racers out there.

941
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: I'm actually enjoying a little rain here in Las Vegas. Yeah,

942
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: we don't. We don't get much of it, so it's

943
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 2: a nice change of pace. Yeah.

944
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 14: I saw.

945
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 15: I saw all the racers in their in their winter

946
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 15: gear tonight, so it must be must be cold out there. Well,

947
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 15: you know, I think Draymond should I thought it was

948
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 15: a pretty funny joke. I think he should take this

949
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 15: as instruction. I mean, Angel Reason is a good player.

950
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 15: Maybe he rebounded like Angel reas you know, you know

951
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 15: he wouldn't. He shouldn't take it.

952
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: So well, look, it's one of those silly things. I

953
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: prefaced it by saying, look, I was at the mouice

954
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: at the Palace. We were doing a ready remote in

955
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: November nineteen, two thousand and four. I swear to God,

956
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: one of these days, it just takes the smallest spontane

957
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: his combustion, and and anytime someone in front had that

958
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: guy been liquored up and said, I, what the hell

959
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: you know this guy in Detroit named John Green became

960
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: a household name because you threw an empty cup. People

961
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: thought it was a full cup of beer. And I

962
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: have to land on ron our Test, who was laying

963
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: across the scores table. So these things can come out

964
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: of nowhere.

965
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 15: I like I like old Shadu Sanders too.

966
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: I think it.

967
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 15: I I think he. I think he kind of got

968
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 15: off on the wrong clip, and there's a chance I'm rooting.

969
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 15: I'm rooting for him tomorrow. I know a lot of

970
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 15: people may may not be, but I think he wanted

971
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 15: he wanted to pull a Eli Manning and wanted to

972
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 15: kind of big time all the NFL franchises, and they

973
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 15: decided to freeze him out. And I think he's gonna

974
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 15: do quite quite well tomorrow. I'm not a fan of

975
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 15: the the Raiders or the Cowboys, so I certainly hope

976
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 15: he pounds the Raiders, uh, the Raiders tomorrow. If I

977
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 15: was the Boys in that ball game, I would have

978
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 15: pored on the port it on the Raiders for a

979
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 15: tiebreaker purposes. I don't think I mean Schottenheimer and Pete

980
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 15: Carroll kind of NFL lifers, so they were gonna they

981
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 15: were gonna go easy on each other, and I had

982
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 15: a I had a wild card topic too.

983
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: I wanted to.

984
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 15: Applaud the Hunt family for trashing the NFL halftime so

985
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 15: we gotta we got a uh, the first sign of

986
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 15: cracks and the NFL armor about their halftime show. So

987
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 15: maybe they can maybe they can replace it with something better,

988
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 15: or people will watch watch the other halftime show. So

989
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 15: you have a good week.

990
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: But thanks, thanks Steve. By the way, three for three, Uh, Kyle,

991
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: Jim and Steve all rooting for I think a lot

992
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 2: of people are. I think in the last three months

993
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: he's more from this player of privilege, over hyped product

994
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: of his dad. Uh, who made a lot of missteps

995
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: in the last three months, has perceived someone's kind of

996
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: put his head down, got in line, and he's gonna

997
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: have a chance to start and as an NFL quarterback Sunday.

998
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: And yes he's a fifth rounder, but let's see what

999
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: he does. Listen, Uh, I just told you what Cam

1000
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 2: Newton did. We saw with Baker mayfielder. I've seen lots

1001
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: of guys have good debuts. I'm not sure how he's

1002
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: gonna do. I'm not I think Cleveland's gonna win. But

1003
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: that's why I'm watching. I want to see what happens.

1004
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: Mike in Houston, Welcome into the Bernie Friddle Show.

1005
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 12: What's going on?

1006
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: Bernie? All right, sir, I'm gonna good.

1007
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 12: First thing, Traymond, let me tell you something my dad

1008
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 12: told me a long time ago. He said, Finn, it's

1009
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 12: not what they called you. What your answer to?

1010
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 2: Very nice? Very nice?

1011
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 12: And this is what hip crew by Draymond. I've watched

1012
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 12: this man for years, all other men, the p where

1013
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 12: be were, every feminis word that he can use, the rockety,

1014
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 12: and then all of a sudden, you get offended because

1015
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 12: a fan called you angel rees because you missed five

1016
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 12: straight lay up, and you get in your feelings because

1017
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 12: a man called you a player who actually actually a

1018
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 12: double double, so that would be a compliment. You're you're

1019
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 12: a triple fingle to after the double double, so she

1020
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 12: looks better than you, and she actually after the double double.

1021
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 12: So take it at the temperament. And what burns me, Bernie.

1022
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 12: What I get with with these guys, man, my sirs,

1023
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 12: they like to say, is I'm married, i got kids,

1024
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 12: I'm a grown man. If you're really a grown man.

1025
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 12: You have to reminder that you're a grown man. To

1026
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 12: be a grown man.

1027
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, but before you get your second

1028
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: point and you're gonna stand here here, don't go anywhere.

1029
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: That was very nice. That's what you call frame it

1030
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: hanging on the wall and the loop next to the

1031
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 2: Mona Lisa because a lot of good pragmatic common sense

1032
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: in there.

1033
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 12: Okay, you got the Flora pal oh appreciate preci hate it.

1034
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 4: Uh.

1035
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 12: With the Cowboys, I think it was a thing with

1036
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 12: scheidenheim Er knowing tee terror. I think with a friendly

1037
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 12: gesture to take the knee. I'm a Cowboy fan. Uh,

1038
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 12: probably in the session because I still I just believe

1039
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 12: it that Jerry Jones me maker, we're not gonna win

1040
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 12: the super Bowl. But I think that was just a

1041
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 12: friendly Justine. I understand why the Raiders new or you

1042
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 12: need trying to get some more points, but I think

1043
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 12: it's friendly justice. I thought that the same thing if

1044
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 12: that was me. But give a take with the Doer

1045
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 12: Sanders people, and honestly, Burnie outous with everybody who gets drafted.

1046
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 12: I hope that the guys are all successful. Them guys

1047
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 12: are doing something that most kids dreaming they could never

1048
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 12: ever do. And I think, like you said, once he

1049
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 12: realized and he got there that the NFL doesn't cowtown

1050
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 12: a bow down the anyone. They will put you in line.

1051
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 12: And I will hope this experience teach him, Hey, you're

1052
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 12: not playing for your dad like you did in middle school,

1053
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 12: high school, in college. You actually have to compete for

1054
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 12: a position and we get the opportunity, make the best

1055
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 12: of it. And you can't lead the NFL a quarterback

1056
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 12: like you're a DBD all wide receiver. You have to

1057
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 12: be a leader. So I hope this homele experience actually

1058
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 12: helps propel him into being the best for he actually compete.

1059
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 12: That's my take. Let us show me my first time

1060
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 12: calling in.

1061
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 2: Oh, hey, I was about that, Mike. I don't believe

1062
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 2: I got a good memory. Don't believe it hurt from

1063
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 2: you before. But let me leave you with this stuff.

1064
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 2: Don't be a stranger. That was outstanding, really appreciated, Mike.

1065
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: It was Mike in Houston. Four great calls starts Joe,

1066
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 2: Mike is the first timer, really really strong stuff. I'm

1067
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 2: really liking this tonight. I like it every Saturday night.

1068
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: Sparks Weed my man two weeks in a row to

1069
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: what do we owe this pleasure?

1070
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 11: Well, I just felt like missing you for a week.

1071
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 11: I needed to cement the experience this week. It's been terrific.

1072
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 11: I hope the lunchibles were good.

1073
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 4: Unless you're want.

1074
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 2: To write something better, that's sure. My wife's a good cook.

1075
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 2: She's a damn good cook.

1076
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, go ahead, you said so. So Draymond, the injurly

1077
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 11: thing is funny.

1078
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 4: It just is.

1079
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 11: I mean, he got so many me bounds that he

1080
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 11: should trademark that and seem you can take it away

1081
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 11: from her.

1082
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: So but okay, So whose side of you are on?

1083
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: The fan? Who was a little over the top? But again, Draymond,

1084
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: he's got a body of work, man. I mean he

1085
00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: gets technicals during one playoffs? Go ahead, well, I.

1086
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 11: Mean he is he is who he is and friend smart.

1087
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: He's smart.

1088
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,479
Speaker 11: This is his brand and he's and he's leaning into it.

1089
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 11: So he's got that Christmas commercial where you know, he

1090
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 11: gets denied by Santa.

1091
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah that's you know.

1092
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 11: I don't know whose side I'm on. I think it

1093
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 11: makes great theater. You know, again, Draymond is great at

1094
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 11: rilling people up. I mean, grow up, dude. He's got

1095
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 11: issues this, that and the other. But at the end

1096
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 11: of the day, he is who he is and until

1097
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 11: he gets until he gets spanked hard enough, and he's

1098
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 11: never going to change.

1099
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 2: Fair enough. Let's go to topic too spot all right.

1100
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 11: I think I don't I don't really care if it

1101
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 11: was a gesture of kindness or a gesture of offense.

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00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 10: I believe that.

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00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 12: I believe.

1104
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, I believe that it was disservice to the fans.

1105
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 11: They came to watch a game. All these millionaires are

1106
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 11: out there to play their hardest every single play, and

1107
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 11: it's a man's game, and uh, you know, I think

1108
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 11: that everybody needs to do their best for for all

1109
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 11: sixty minutes of the game. I can understand the you

1110
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 11: know what, that it would be kind of the mercy rule.

1111
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 11: But again, I think I think the fans lost out.

1112
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 11: What if there's a really good play you got, you

1113
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 11: got another touchdown maybe as the Raiders or the Cowboys

1114
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 11: really stomped you, and I think the fans, the fans

1115
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 11: lost a little bit out of that.

1116
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was I didn't like it. I'm gonna be honest.

1117
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: If you want to run guide plays into the tackle

1118
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: with no intention of scoring, fine, we get all that,

1119
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: but when you take a knee in a national football

1120
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: game with two minutes and forty seconds to go, I

1121
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: feel you're sending even if it's a subliminal message, dude,

1122
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: we feel sorry for you. We'll stop. Yeah, okay, Mercy,

1123
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah your thoughts, Sanders, Well, even if.

1124
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 11: It is the Raiders, you still should respect them anyway, now,

1125
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 11: she door Sanders. I hope he does well, I really do. Uh,

1126
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 11: it'd be like you said, it'd be a great story again.

1127
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,919
Speaker 11: He's he's playing the Raiders this time. Hopefully they don't

1128
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 11: they don't get so so over the top with them

1129
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 11: that they kneel against them also next week. But yeah,

1130
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 11: Shadur has this this one chance, and it's gonna be Hey,

1131
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 11: it was against the Raiders, you know, and he's gonna

1132
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 11: have to be He's gonna have to be continuously better

1133
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 11: in order to to rely capture the ring. But I

1134
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 11: think he's got a really good shot, and I would

1135
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 11: I would hope that that that he takes it. So anyway,

1136
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 11: and now you need to ask me the usual question.

1137
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you drinking tonight?

1138
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 11: I am drinking Elision by frost Ale. It's a it's

1139
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 11: a heavy winner Ale, but I'm heavy too, so that's

1140
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 11: kind of the way it goes.

1141
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: Well. That sounds outstanding, Spox, so good stuff. We've covered

1142
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: all the bases and appreciate you checking in. Alan Is St. Louis,

1143
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: Greg and Dallas, Bryce in Texas, Martin and Orange, California.

1144
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you called in. Please sit tight. I

1145
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: will get to all of you. Want to hear what

1146
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: you got to say. We are off and running on

1147
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: the midnight hour. I'm Bernie Frattle, come to your life

1148
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: from Las Vegas. Fox Sports Radio Studios. Don't go away.

1149
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show.

1150
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 8: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1151
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 8: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

1152
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,800
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1153
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 8: listen live.

1154
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 2: All right, we are back at the Bernie Frattle Show.

1155
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 2: The midnight hour is rocking and rolling. Alan, Greg, Bryce,

1156
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: Martin and Nick. We're gonna take you in that order.

1157
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: Let's keep the ball rolling. Alan and Saint Louis. Welcome

1158
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 2: back in, Alan. How are you?

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00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 10: Good morning, Bernie. There's nothing like lead love with what

1160
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 10: the reason the vandellas.

1161
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 2: I love it that's right.

1162
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,919
Speaker 10: B Yeah, I'm a DJ.

1163
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: So that's that's I love Hotown. That's all I play.

1164
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: I'm from Detroit. It's timeless music and it's feel good music.

1165
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: You got the floor.

1166
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 10: Allen Motown is great, you know. First of Drey mind,

1167
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 10: this is one time I did have a problem that

1168
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 10: the fan didn't get ejected.

1169
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: Did he? I? You know, you got me there and

1170
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 2: I can look into that. I'll look into it, Alan,

1171
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: go ahead.

1172
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 10: I don't think he did. And if you, let's face it,

1173
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 10: we've seen Draymond enough to know when he's really hot

1174
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 10: and when he out of control. He came up. Now,

1175
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 10: it may have been bad judgment to go to a

1176
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 10: fan's face, you know, because sometimes, like you said earlier,

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01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 10: you know, things can happen. But they talked. The guy

1178
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 10: threw his hands out and they either had kind of

1179
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 10: a laugh if you noticed that.

1180
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. Here's the thing, Alan, stay right there,

1181
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: and you know he was not ejected. He was given

1182
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: a warning. But I covered the mount of the palace

1183
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: around our test was laying all by his once him

1184
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: on the scores table. Then all of a sudden, the

1185
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 2: empty cup comes out of nowhere and the rest is history. Yeah,

1186
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: so you're continue on he's spontaneous combustion aspect of this

1187
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: one of these days, continue on, Alan, Yeah.

1188
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 10: And that's the only thing, you know, you never know

1189
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 10: what's gonna happen. But even at the press conference, Draymond

1190
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 10: mentioned that he had they have they didn't have words,

1191
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 10: they had an exchange and if that makes sense, and

1192
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 10: he even laughed at the press conference, you know, so

1193
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 10: he wasn't the normal Draymond that we've seen when he

1194
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 10: when he gets upset, because that normal. And you notice

1195
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 10: nobody really grabbed Draymond when he went out there after

1196
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 10: they started talking. So this is one time I'm glad

1197
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 10: didn't anything happen. But like you said, it's just bad

1198
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 10: judgment to go on a fans face, whether you joke

1199
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 10: or not. Now, as far as the kneels your served,

1200
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,479
Speaker 10: you know, I don't have a problem with it, Joe.

1201
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 10: I understand the fans wanted to see, let's face it,

1202
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 10: in the last two minutes of a blowout game. I mean,

1203
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 10: how much excitement are you going to see? How many

1204
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 10: people were left there? He even left in the stadium,

1205
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 10: So you know, out a problem with it. I look

1206
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 10: back and even though it could be anybody. I look

1207
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 10: back at what happened to Jaden Daniels with you know,

1208
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 10: with the tap game, with the game being out of

1209
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 10: hand fair enough, it doesn't have to be a story.

1210
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 10: It could be anybody. So and it's facing you. Either

1211
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 10: coach had to have a problem with it. I don't

1212
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 10: think the players had a problem with it. You know,

1213
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 10: if if I'm upset about what happened in the two

1214
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 10: last two minutes of a Blowog game as a fan,

1215
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 10: you know, that may be me problem out of their problem.

1216
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: Okay, that continue on, don't you know?

1217
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 10: But like I say that, that's that's that's the word.

1218
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 10: We all have opinions that they're great. As far as

1219
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 10: the door is concerned. Of course, I'm pulling for him

1220
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 10: that that's facing now it's the first game. But you know,

1221
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 10: he doesn't have an excuses this time. You know, he

1222
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 10: he's worked with them all week. It's his cadence and everything. Now,

1223
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 10: I don't expect him to go out there and do

1224
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 10: a Cam Newton. But one thing Shador has in as favor,

1225
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 10: his teammates like him. And from all reports, his teammates

1226
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 10: like him and they want to play for him. So

1227
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 10: I think that may you know, mentally, that may work

1228
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 10: out of his favor. It doesn't make any difference when

1229
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 10: I think what you know, the top shows or the

1230
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 10: weak thing, you know, go out there, play field team

1231
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 10: and let the chips fall where they may. So I

1232
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 10: hope he does well. But you know, I think the

1233
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 10: biggest thing I think is if to Door's favor, his

1234
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 10: dad has been quiet about this whole situation, and I

1235
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 10: think that helps him because he doesn't have any outside distractions.

1236
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 10: I'm pulling for him. I hope he plays well. And

1237
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 10: let's face it, I'd rather have him play the Raiders

1238
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 10: defense than play the Texas defense. That's going to help

1239
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 10: him all. So take care of Bertie.

1240
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: Fair enough, all right, good good stuff. And just to

1241
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: set the record straight on the Draymond thing, it's my understanding.

1242
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 2: He told a reporter what triggered him was. He said, Look,

1243
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,919
Speaker 2: he called me injuries. He said, I got four kids

1244
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: in one on the way. You're not going to call

1245
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: me a woman. But I think Alan's statements were met

1246
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 2: and accurate. So for the most part, Onward and Upward

1247
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: both were issued a warning. Greg and Dallas walking into

1248
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 2: the Bernie Frownshew are you how's it.

1249
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 4: Going, man? Okay? Well, Draymond, I think was very entertaining.

1250
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 4: I mean, the guy just pointed out a fact. I mean,

1251
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 4: what comps are there other than Angel Reese when he

1252
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 4: comes to that segment that it just it was what

1253
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 4: it was.

1254
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 16: And there are.

1255
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 4: No no NBA comps to that that I can remember,

1256
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 4: other than maybe most of Mullan back in the seventies

1257
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 4: and eighties or whatever. But anyway, I think for him

1258
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 4: to take it that step farther that he was attacking

1259
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 4: his manhood or whatever. Come on, man, it was just

1260
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 4: it was it was okay, it's all right with was

1261
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 4: you know, we'll.

1262
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 2: And then the Raiders to the Cowboys took a knee

1263
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: with two minutes and forty seconds to go. At first,

1264
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 2: I thought it was a sign of disrespect, but I

1265
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: think the callers have kind of been more measured. Your

1266
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 2: thoughts on.

1267
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 4: That, Yeah, you know, I'm Dallas, Dallas guy, I'm sixty

1268
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 4: six years old, have been watching them for sixty years.

1269
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 4: The one thing i'ven't heard here is that the Cowboys

1270
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 4: and Raiders scrimmage each other every training camp. It's a

1271
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 4: to me, that's a very important consideration because I thought

1272
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 4: it was a sign of respect. I've never seen them

1273
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 4: try to disrespect anybody, but Buddy Ryan was still around

1274
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 4: maybe game on, but other than that, no, I think

1275
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 4: that's a nothing fair.

1276
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 2: Enough, fair enough. That's why we do this segment to

1277
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 2: get things straight. And then finally Shador on Sunday, your thoughts.

1278
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 4: I'm rooting for him. I'm afraid he's left out on

1279
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 4: the island. He's got no real running game. He's going

1280
01:05:55,800 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 4: to have the Jokuho's going to be quadruple teams, is

1281
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 4: going to have Crosby just licking his lips before Thanksgiving.

1282
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 4: We'll see as well as he can step up in

1283
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 4: the pocket and not move back in the pocket, which.

1284
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: That's a big issue. That's an issue.

1285
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 4: I think he'll be okay. But if they can't keep

1286
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 4: it to a field goal or two field goals, they

1287
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 4: can win breakout game. Well, you know that's what they say.

1288
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 4: We'll just play the game and see how it goes.

1289
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot. I appreciate it, man, I do think

1290
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 2: Cleveland's gonna win. There's a big mismatch on the offensive

1291
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 2: defensive lines for Cleveland. Quin Shawn Zudcoms can be okay

1292
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 2: and Gino likes to throw the ball to the other team.

1293
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: The issue for Shador don't hold the ball too long.

1294
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: Process what you see and you know, maneuver in the pocket,

1295
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 2: don't drift backward. It's easy for me to say, Bryce

1296
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: in Texas, welcome in, Hi, Bryce. Oh, it's my going,

1297
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: Bernie good Man, thanks.

1298
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 17: Good so real quick start off with doubt cowboys kneeling.

1299
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 17: I thought it was weird when I first saw it too,

1300
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 17: And then right after app and they started talking about

1301
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 17: the Marshawn Neeland guy who you know, took his life.

1302
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 17: I'm wondering if there was some sort of communication of like, hey,

1303
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 17: can we like hay respect to this dude somehow, because

1304
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 17: afterwards Hee Carolyn Schottenheimer had like a really cordial painshaking something.

1305
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 2: They worked together in Seattle. You know that's did they

1306
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 2: work together in Seattle back in the.

1307
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 12: Day, right right?

1308
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,479
Speaker 17: And I know Schottenheimer is a big player coach. Yeah,

1309
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 17: I don't know if I have anything to do with

1310
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 17: that or not. Just get my guys out of there,

1311
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 17: let's go home.

1312
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: That is probably Yet the other caller brought up a

1313
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 2: great point about Jayden Daniels. Maybe it was our let's

1314
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 2: just get out of here. I just hadn't seen it

1315
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: with two minutes and forty seconds ago. So, uh, you

1316
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 2: have any thoughts on Draymond and the fan.

1317
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 17: I think if you look up the word gas flight

1318
01:07:55,280 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 17: in the dictionary, Draymond Green state that's right there. Because

1319
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 17: every time this dude gets in trouble, you know, he's

1320
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 17: the guy that's like, I'm not the angry black person

1321
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 17: while he's screaming at you and then wants to blame

1322
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 17: you for your perception of who he is. I think

1323
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 17: he I think this is just who he is. As

1324
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 17: far as the fan goes. He didn't say anything that

1325
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 17: you can't say, like he's not cussing the guy out

1326
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 17: he's got cussing him out or making threats to him.

1327
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 17: I don't see anything wrong with what the fan did.

1328
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 17: I think that Draymond just when he gets frustrated, he

1329
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 17: gat bites people.

1330
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, Shodoor Sanders. He's scarped into a

1331
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 2: bit of an underdog when when you consider the the

1332
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: you know, the sort of the overriding opinion heading into

1333
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 2: the game standing and I'm glad to see people rooting

1334
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 2: for him. Go ahead, your thoughts well.

1335
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 17: I'm a Bronze fan and we had to talk months

1336
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 17: ago when he got drafted. I said, you know, if

1337
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 17: he ever gets to play, I think the true measure

1338
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 17: is if he could stay on the field for ten games,

1339
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 17: if he could stay on the building Pete for ten games,

1340
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 17: I think it's a success. I'm worried that we're going

1341
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 17: to see a crime scene in this game when Max

1342
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 17: Probby Max Crosby gets a hold of him. I don't

1343
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 17: know if he makes it through the game.

1344
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:17,799
Speaker 2: So I think you know, I've been highly critical bryce

1345
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 2: of shod Or even in Colorado, but I think he's tough.

1346
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 2: He got to hit more than Rocky ball ball at Colorado.

1347
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 2: I do think he's a competitor. But I'm not saying

1348
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 2: you're wrong. And I don't think Max Krosby is a

1349
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: dirty player. But St. Gohadan finished your point. I didn't

1350
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 2: want to step on your point. I just wanted to

1351
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 2: get that on the record that I do think Shudor

1352
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: is tough.

1353
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 17: No, I do too, I just I mean, I've heard

1354
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 17: the other callers say step up into the pocket. There's

1355
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,440
Speaker 17: no pocket for him to step up into, Like I don't.

1356
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 17: I feel like he's going to be a sitting duck.

1357
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 17: I think that if he can, you know, I think

1358
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 17: the fans he's going to draw up like a lot

1359
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 17: of screenplays or not to keep it safe for him.

1360
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 17: But other than that, like if he could stay alive

1361
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 17: on the field and not turn the ball over, that

1362
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 17: to me is a success for the kid.

1363
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: I believe you. Well, all right, thanks a lot that, Bryce.

1364
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: And there are things they can do Max protect three

1365
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 2: step drops. Uh you know, you know, short routes. There

1366
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 2: are things they can do. He's still got to be

1367
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 2: showing ability to process and not hold the ball. Martin

1368
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: in Orange, California, Welcome back in Martin.

1369
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 18: How are you, hey, Bernie? How's it going tonight?

1370
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 2: Good man?

1371
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 19: Hey sho door.

1372
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 18: I'm not a I'm not a shoud Dore fan, But

1373
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 18: what I want him to do is I want him

1374
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 18: to do well. The NFL needs, you know, quarterback like that,

1375
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 18: who has the lineage, who has the name. Remember he

1376
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 18: had the number one selling jersey the first week of

1377
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 18: the NFL week, So I wish him the best. Let's

1378
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 18: not hold onto the ball so long, Let's make our

1379
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 18: reads and let's try to get a wh.

1380
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be the story. That's what That's what I

1381
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 2: said my opening commentary. The real story would be for

1382
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 2: him to come out light it up a little bit.

1383
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: I mean, if he fails, so yeah, you know, that's

1384
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 2: just that just joins the other stories from the Naked City.

1385
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: That's the story.

1386
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1387
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 18: Yeah, if he fails, everyone can say, hey, I told you,

1388
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,440
Speaker 18: I told you. The better story is him succeeding.

1389
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 2: Right, it's game, Yeah, go ahead taking the knee.

1390
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 18: You know, it's just a sign of like, and I

1391
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 18: completely forgot about the passing, And if that's why they

1392
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 18: did it, I understand, you know, it's but if that

1393
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 18: was the case, maybe they shouldn't have played the game

1394
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 18: at all because those last two minutes. I know it's like, hey,

1395
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 18: the game's in hand, but there are like third stringers

1396
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 18: who do put their time out there, and that would

1397
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 18: be nice for them to get some type of play.

1398
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 12: But I can't be mad at it.

1399
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:48,799
Speaker 16: If I was a fan at.

1400
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 18: The game, I haven't understanding of what was going on,

1401
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 18: and I'd get it. Dreamond this guy is one of

1402
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 18: my favorite players. Burning Up called in the past and

1403
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 18: talked about him, and it's like nothing he does really

1404
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 18: bug me. I know how he gets but it's like

1405
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 18: it's much time. I'm at the Laker game, Bernie, and

1406
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 18: this guy's here. I'm gonna serenade him, Bernie.

1407
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 16: I'm gonna get I'm gonna hit him with this one.

1408
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 18: Bernie. I'm gonna be like girl, you'll be the old

1409
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 18: woman shoo.

1410
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 12: And then I want to see if he's gonna I

1411
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 12: love you much, kids, get all the way with the

1412
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 12: godfo you girls, and RISK want to say.

1413
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 18: I'm not your guys.

1414
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 12: I'm sorry, Bernie, thank you for letting me up that

1415
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 12: little fucking moment. I love you, Bye bye it.

1416
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 2: So why would do the midnight hour folks? It's a

1417
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful thing because it's unscripted, it's extemporaneous, and

1418
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 2: it's entertaining. Are you not entertaining? Nick from Berkeley? You

1419
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 2: are up next, my friend.

1420
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 16: Welcome in, Hey, Bernie, I'm very entertained, man.

1421
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 14: I love the stories.

1422
01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 20: Hey, check it out. So I'm a Diehardnner fan and

1423
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,600
Speaker 20: Warrior fan. And let me tell you something, I'm a

1424
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 20: Giant Giants fan too. In one game in June of

1425
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 20: eighty eight, going way back, I was heckling Mike.

1426
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 16: Marshall in right field. He starts patting his glove and

1427
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 16: I'm like, oh you hear me, you rabbit, and I'm

1428
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 16: just all over just ripping him like this, shredding him.

1429
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 16: So he looked at me and as he runs in

1430
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 16: that there was a third out, I.

1431
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 14: Kid you not.

1432
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 16: This man gets up and points his bat to right field,

1433
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 16: and my boy looks at me. He says, you could

1434
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 16: never talk smack if he hits a home run right here,

1435
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 16: and it was the air was kind of still. The

1436
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 16: twin night doubleheader against the Dodgers, Marshall smokes one to

1437
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 16: right field. The ball is going to leave the park

1438
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 16: and the Giants godly wins coming to last second and

1439
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 16: push it down and hits the base of the fence

1440
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 16: and he could have leg got a tripple, but he

1441
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 16: cruises in the second looking at me and I just

1442
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 16: said and so when he came out.

1443
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 14: To the right field, I was like, I'm not worthy.

1444
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 16: I just gave him the game and his promps. But

1445
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 16: you know, Draymond man, have no respect for him.

1446
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 4: Man.

1447
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 16: He caught the Warriors the title. He punched the college

1448
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 16: kid out of Delia in Michigan because he said because

1449
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 16: the college kids said something to him.

1450
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 17: Like what is wrong with you?

1451
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: Bro?

1452
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 16: You're gonna walk up on a fan like like like

1453
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 16: like you're Bruce Lee or something.

1454
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 18: Bro.

1455
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 16: You're getting paid millions of dollars to play a game. Bro,

1456
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 16: check yourself. You know what I'm saying.

1457
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 12: You're a grown man.

1458
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 16: What happened to the example to your kids? You were

1459
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 16: talking about? In all this, Draymond is just selfish and

1460
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 16: he really needs to get some help and control his

1461
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 16: emotions because you know, you wouldn't want that to blow

1462
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 16: up in and get him suspended or get him kicked

1463
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 16: out in the league.

1464
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 2: Man, real quickly, nick, I love the story that Mike

1465
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 2: Marshall story had to been what around nineteen eighty eight

1466
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: was Is that fair? About what that?

1467
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 12: What was?

1468
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 16: Yes, dude, in June of eighty eight, like the middle

1469
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 16: of June. You can check it out in the San

1470
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 16: Francisco papers, And it was mayhem because the first game

1471
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,719
Speaker 16: went like fourteen innings, went to pass like twelve thirty.

1472
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 16: The second game started about twelve forty five and fights

1473
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 16: started breaking out about in the sixth inning of the

1474
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 16: second game, around two am. And this is before they

1475
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 16: had the liquor law and you could buy alcohol away

1476
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 16: till like six.

1477
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 18: In the mornings.

1478
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,719
Speaker 2: Basically, Well, I went to the old candlestick many times

1479
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 2: my friend and you had to be hooked up to

1480
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 2: a blender to get through that night. It was cold, Nick,

1481
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,879
Speaker 2: I wish I had more time. Don't be a stranger.

1482
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 2: I want to hear from you again. I appreciate it.

1483
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 2: The Men That Hour continue, will be wrapping it up.

1484
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 2: Ryan in Minnesota will be next. Excellent, really interesting stuff tonight,

1485
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: including a lot of opinions. I was wrying. I'll wrap

1486
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 2: it up my thoughts coming up, ruyand you're next. I'm

1487
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 2: Bernie Fradderwick coming to line from Las Vegas. Fox Sports

1488
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 2: Radio Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie

1489
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 2: Fradle Show.

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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,879
Speaker 2: All right, We're back on the Bernie Fraddle Show. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Wrap it up on the Menn Hour. We

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01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 2: go out to the great state of Minnesota. Minnesota. Nice.

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01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: We wrap it up with Ryan in Minnesota. Ryan, you

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01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 2: got the last word tonight on the Men That Hour.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your patience.

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Speaker 14: Yea, Minneapolis, I'm here. My parents would bevery gated community,

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01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 14: just loving it. I'm a little excited about the game tomorrow.

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01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 14: But I'll talk about your subjects if you want. And

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01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 14: first of all, go ahead, well go ahead.

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01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 2: If you got another rant, that's fine too, But to

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01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,679
Speaker 2: go ahead with the subjects, okay, I'll go to the subjects.

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01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 14: So I would say about your I'm rooting for him

1504
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 14: because everyone's root against him. That's just my thing. Everyone

1505
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 14: wants the guy to fail. I want him to win.

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01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 14: Second thing. Kneel it down, man, the game's going on.

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01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 15: You won the game.

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01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:37,759
Speaker 14: Let them let them lose gracefully.

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01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 2: We'll win gracefully. Fair enough.

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01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 14: As far as as far as Raymond goes, I've been

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01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 14: in the crowd. I used to say, big dog, big dog.

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01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 14: Leadon Robinson. I was right behind the bench right before

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01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 14: I was.

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01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:50,839
Speaker 2: I was annoying.

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01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 14: I was annoying. Uh K, you know KG more than

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01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,759
Speaker 14: more than the big dog anyway.

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01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 2: So you were. So you were at a Timberwolves game

1518
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 2: and KG he felt he wasn't getting their respect because

1519
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 2: you were big dog Glenn Robinson from Purdue, and KG

1520
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 2: took advent, took an umbrage to that.

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01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 14: He didn't love it. I can say that I can

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01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 14: see he had a little.

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01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 2: You. You or you were not you were not rude

1524
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 2: in any way.

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01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 14: We had a few drinks at that night. But here's

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01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,520
Speaker 14: the thing I want to say about my quarterback, JJ McCarthy.

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01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 12: I see a little bit of magic.

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01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 14: Okay. I know he's had a lot of failure and

1529
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 14: a lot of bad pros and a lot of drama,

1530
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 14: and I'm just gonna say it right now. I believe

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01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 14: in the kid, and I think we've got to give

1532
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 14: him a chance, and even if it loses all season,

1533
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 14: I want to roll with him. We've never developed a

1534
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 14: quarterback here, We've always had rentals. This is our own product.

1535
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 13: We're going to go through it.

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01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 14: Hopefully this season is the season, and I have a

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01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,799
Speaker 14: belief that he might just show a little magic tomorrow.

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01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 14: That's all I gotta say.

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01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 2: Bernie, all right, that's excellent, appreciate it. And from what

1540
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 2: I know in my connection to Michigan football, I think

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01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 2: in time JJ McCarthy is going to be fine. I

1542
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 2: said the same thing about Bryce Young three years ago.

1543
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 2: You either got it, you don't take some guys longer

1544
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 2: in the situations. I think a lot of Kevin O'Connell.

1545
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 2: I think the problem, the challenge is the Vikings, who

1546
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 2: are ready to win now and JJ McCarthy might not

1547
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 2: be able to make that leap when you see what

1548
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 2: Sam Donald is doing in Seattle, maybe Michigan, or check

1549
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 2: that Minnesota, the Minnesota faithful our second guessing a little bit.

1550
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 2: Might we have been better off to hang in there

1551
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 2: with Sam Donald and run him for another year or

1552
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 2: two while JJ McCarthy was developed. Now on this day

1553
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 2: and age of Terrasey, right, they're bringing a guy and

1554
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 2: start up. Steve Young sat around for five years before

1555
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 2: you ever started in the NFL. I know it's a

1556
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 2: different era. Same with Aaron Rodgers. Jordan Love just did

1557
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 2: the same thing in Green Bay. Didn't start right away.

1558
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 2: Be that as it may. They made their decision. But

1559
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 2: interesting observations on JJ McCarthy there. Ryan and I share

1560
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 2: a lot of the sentiments, you know, but patience is

1561
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 2: a kind of a foregone commodity in our society. We're

1562
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:09,440
Speaker 2: in a fast food society. And it was very refreshing

1563
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 2: to see that people are in fact rooting for Shador

1564
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 2: Sanders because I'll tell you why. I think the guy

1565
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:19,759
Speaker 2: has morphed into an underdog. You go back three months,

1566
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 2: four months, he was the ultimate overdog. Now he's become

1567
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 2: sort of this hey kind of likable underdog. People are

1568
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 2: going to be rooting for him because they were prevailing perceptions.

1569
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 2: That says Sanders may not have been treated fairly. Maybe

1570
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 2: if the NFL scounce should have give and at least

1571
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 2: his second round grade. I never thought he was a

1572
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: first round guy, and I broke down why and nerd fashion,

1573
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 2: but maybe a second round guy. And if they wanted

1574
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 2: to send a draft day message about humility, I think

1575
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 2: that's stupid. If that really happened. I don't think the

1576
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: Browns coaching staff has invested a hell of a lot

1577
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 2: of time of energy in him because I don't think

1578
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 2: they wanted him. I think the owner wanted him. So

1579
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 2: you put aside all the debate about first team reps

1580
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 2: in practice and whether Sanders should have gotten more, whether

1581
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 2: he should have been elevated from second during the third strength,

1582
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,879
Speaker 2: you get all the Michigan goths that surrounded him. Okay,

1583
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, he's starting Sunday in

1584
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 2: the National Football League. So look, he threw thirty seven

1585
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 2: touchdowns in four thousand yards of Colorado, completed seventy four

1586
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 2: percent of his passes. I didn't see that one superpower

1587
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 2: that you want in a first round draft choice. But look,

1588
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,440
Speaker 2: don't tell me, show me he's got a golden, golden opportunity.

1589
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 2: By the way, with the iHeart Radio app, you can

1590
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,280
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1592
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1593
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1594
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1595
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1596
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 2: the iHeart Radio apps will always pop up at the

1597
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,560
Speaker 2: top of your screen. All right, folks, I want to

1598
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 2: thank the callers that tonight was exceptional. We yuck it up,

1599
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 2: we have little fun. You never know where it's gonna go.

1600
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 2: Some really thoughtful calls, some first time callers, and I

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01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 2: just think the variant of opinion, and I give it

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01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 2: to the callers. I think I overrated the Raiders, the

1603
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 2: Cowboys taking a knee, I do, And I think I

1604
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 2: underrated how many people are really rooting for Shure Centers

1605
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 2: all good and Draymond good stuff there as well. Coming up,

1606
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 2: Mark Medina, Medina Magics, talk some NBA. It's the Bernie

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01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 2: Fraddle Show on Fox. That's right, you heard the man.

1608
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show keeps rolling right along. My name is

1609
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle. We are Kenedy lyon from the Fox Sports

1610
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 2: Radio studios here in Las Vegas. Will take up to

1611
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 2: three in Pacific, six am Eastern. We've covered a lot tonight,

1612
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 2: but we got a lot more to get to and

1613
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 2: with the NBA season underway, no better guy to go

1614
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 2: to than our guy. Three simple words. It's that time,

1615
01:21:55,240 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 2: Mark Medina, Medina Magic, our Fox Sports Radio NBA grew Mark.

1616
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 2: I know there's always a bounce in your step during

1617
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 2: NBA Cup season? Is it still? Are you still fired

1618
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 2: up about the NBA Cup?

1619
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 12: Now?

1620
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 3: I'm more fired about up with belt Lebron James's return.

1621
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 3: It's probably the second most anticipated return behind you know,

1622
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 3: your return to the studio this tonight.

1623
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks a lot. I appreciate that. I thought I

1624
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 2: thought I was like at least number seven behind the

1625
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 2: mcribs sandwich returning to McDonald's or something.

1626
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 3: But anyway, no, no, clearly the code of returns are yeah.

1627
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 2: You got hey, By the way, we are going to

1628
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 2: get to that. And you wrote a really good article

1629
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 2: this week, and I would just say this before I do.

1630
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to talk to you last week,

1631
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: and I would have certainly wanted to about the situation

1632
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 2: regarding Nico Harrison going bye bye and what triggered it

1633
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 2: and why didn't they wait till the end of the season.

1634
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,839
Speaker 2: I know, no Mark Cuban sort of back in power,

1635
01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 2: and there's even rumors are going to try Anthony Davis,

1636
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 2: and Markhuman denies that. So take all that where you

1637
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 2: want to go with it. Of course, I'm referring to

1638
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 2: the article you had in the EES Sports News, So

1639
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 2: take that where you want to take it, because there's

1640
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 2: a lot of meat on the bone there.

1641
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1642
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 3: I think the simple answer is, you know, they made

1643
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 3: Nico Harrison the fall guy because you know, not just

1644
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 3: the Luka Dots trade clearly not working out in their favor,

1645
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 3: but they got off to a rough start, and you know,

1646
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving being out with the ACL injury was expected,

1647
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 3: but it was thought that Anthony Davis would be more available,

1648
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 3: Cooper Flag wouldn't have as many up and down rookie

1649
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 3: adversity moments, and Klay Thompson would adjust better to his

1650
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 3: role now that he's further removed from his injuries, Drew

1651
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 3: Russ would be a better fit. So I think you know,

1652
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 3: no one should cry river for Nico Harrison. He made

1653
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 3: the worst trade in NBA history. It's not it's it's

1654
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 3: bad enough that you traded a franchise player with Luca Dodgers,

1655
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 3: but not getting enough of a haul back in return.

1656
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 3: That's number one, but number two. It also makes him

1657
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 3: the convenient fall guy. It camouflageses the reality that Patrick

1658
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 3: Dumont rubber stamps the steal and was on the record

1659
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 3: saying that a Nico we trust and so in slight

1660
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 3: slight fairness to Nico, they didn't have the full roster

1661
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 3: entering the season to really see what this would look like.

1662
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 3: But I think you could also counteract, well, this is

1663
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 3: what happens when you trade Luka Docch for a player

1664
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 3: that has a lot of injuries on his resume and

1665
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 3: Anthony Davis and you know, falling into getting Cooper Flag

1666
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 3: and the number one pick isn't a strategy that was luck.

1667
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 3: So you know, again, Nico has a resume, he put

1668
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 3: together a good roster to get them to the finals

1669
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, but you know that blotch of

1670
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 3: trade Luka doocch. I wouldn't say it for a sack

1671
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 3: of marbles, but pretty close to it. You can't escape him.

1672
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 2: Thought of Mark Medena or Fox Sports Radio and be

1673
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 2: a gurued reader for essentially sports. Yeah, we'll move on

1674
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: from that. There's no question he's got a lot of baggage.

1675
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 2: It just felt like the fans were chaining fire nicos,

1676
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 2: so they just did it. I would have thought they

1677
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 2: would have at least given him a season. But let's

1678
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 2: move on because the Lakers season took an interesting turn.

1679
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 2: And I know it was all smiles this week against Utah,

1680
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 2: and I was wrong on two counts. One. I didn't

1681
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 2: think he'd be back till December. First, he came back

1682
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 2: twelve days earlier than that. But I gotta tell you,

1683
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 2: you know, let's get beneath the surface here and get

1684
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 2: a little bit into the weeds. Let's say this is sustainable,

1685
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 2: this new Lebron man. I'm going to get twelve assists

1686
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 2: a game. I don't need to be on ball. You've

1687
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: got him Lebron, Luca and Austin Reeves on the floor.

1688
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 2: That is not a good defensive team that should have

1689
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 2: any designs on making a run for a championship. So

1690
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 2: I feel there's a law but ten of consequences here.

1691
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 2: You sew what happened Tuesday eight, Oh, how convenient they

1692
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 2: play Utah Agains Sunday. Let's be honest, is this really sustainable?

1693
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 3: It's late and see I have a lot of skepticism

1694
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 3: for the same reasons you outline. They had the starting

1695
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 3: lineup as you mentioned, with Austin Reeves and Luka Doncic

1696
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 3: really at Chamora, Lebron James and Dean Drayton, and they

1697
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 3: trailed sixteen to six, and you know, they called time out.

1698
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 3: Lebron went to the bench because he's on a min's

1699
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 3: restriction anyway, and when Marcus Smart came back, they suddenly

1700
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 3: became a more defensive oriented team. So I think the

1701
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 3: starting lineup it's subject to change. I think, you know,

1702
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 3: JJ's trying to stagger minutes and also just figure things

1703
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 3: out of cost benefit of you know, wanting to have

1704
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 3: good offensive spacing and shooting, and you can make up

1705
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 3: four defensively later in the game. But yeah, I agree

1706
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 3: with you that it is fair to wonder just because

1707
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 3: Lebron bought into his role and saying I'm a basketball player,

1708
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 3: I know how to fit in. Does that mean that

1709
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 3: he can do that long term? And that's the paradox

1710
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 3: with Lebron James when you're looking at his exes and

1711
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 3: o's now he plays the game. He backs up those

1712
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 3: words with actions. He is a pass first player. He

1713
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,639
Speaker 3: doesn't worry about hunting his shots. But at the same time,

1714
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 3: he wants to be the guy that's directing everything. He

1715
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 3: wants to be the person that is in control of

1716
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 3: the Lakers, and that's obviously a much different dynamic because

1717
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 3: his player named Luca Dongic is on the team now.

1718
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 3: I think, in fairness to Lebron, we've seen in past

1719
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 3: seasons that he's been reluctant to let go of the

1720
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 3: wheel for a few reasons. You see Russell Westbrook make

1721
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 3: terrible decisions, misopen shots, D'Angel Russell feasts er fam and

1722
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 3: sometimes he looks like the greatest shooter behind Stephen Curry

1723
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 3: and the other night. So he can't throw the ball

1724
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 3: in the ocean, and he's terrible on defense. So you

1725
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 3: can understand at some point he's going to say, you

1726
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 3: know what, I'm directing the show here with When he

1727
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,679
Speaker 3: was with Anthony Davis, he would often talk about hey,

1728
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 3: he's the number one option. I think that his success

1729
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 3: outshine much more than his shortcomings. But from an availability

1730
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 3: and aggressive inness standpoint, a d wasn't always there. But

1731
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 3: I think when you're looking at Luca Doc he's on

1732
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 3: a much different stress here. He's one of the best

1733
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 3: scores in the NBA. He's in much better shape now.

1734
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 3: You know, he can still improve as a playmaker, still

1735
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 3: can improve as a defender, but he is showing progress

1736
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 3: in that. I think you have to give Lebron some

1737
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 3: grace and benefit the doubt that he will at least

1738
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 3: a conceit a little bit because it is Luca. But

1739
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 3: there's still going to be some push pool not just

1740
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 3: with that, but the idea of once he's fully caught

1741
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,759
Speaker 3: up with his condition and being on board with any

1742
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 3: kind of minutes restriction. I mean, that is just not

1743
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 3: part of his DNA, and when the Lakers have tried

1744
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 3: to do that in past seasons, it only lasts a

1745
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 3: few games.

1746
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 2: All Right. You said a lot of good mouthful there.

1747
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 2: I listened to every word. I would say this. I

1748
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 2: think you get you grant him the grace now he's

1749
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 2: been in the league twenty three years. But I feel

1750
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 2: there's going to be a snowball effect as you get

1751
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 2: into February, March, April and closer to the playoffs, where

1752
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 2: some of these things are going to start to rear

1753
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 2: their head because to be truly effective, Lebron still have

1754
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 2: to have the ball and so does Luca and Frankly

1755
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 2: Sotas Austin Reeeds.

1756
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, great point. And I talked with an opposing team

1757
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 3: assistant coach before Lebron's return, and he pointed out, you know,

1758
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 3: using last season as a reference point post for a

1759
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 3: deadline with Luca, they said apples and Orange was because

1760
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,799
Speaker 3: that wasn't a lot of time be the different supporting

1761
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 3: cast players, right. But to see, and this is the

1762
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 3: biggest part is this is now the final year of

1763
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 3: his contract. We saw how the extension hopes didn't play

1764
01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 3: out in Lebron and how Lebron wanted and and so

1765
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 3: essentially he might be playing as if trying to prove, hey,

1766
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 3: I'm worthy of playing pass beyond this season, and so

1767
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 3: that could be the outfit in the room. And that

1768
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 3: assistant coach also pointed out, you know, for the first

1769
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 3: time in his career, he's no longer the player that

1770
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 3: has the power over the franchise that belongs now to

1771
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 3: Luka Doncic, So how does he deal with that?

1772
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 10: Now?

1773
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:26,640
Speaker 3: Lebron's very self aware, very calculates. I want to be surprised,

1774
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 3: you know, when he's been making comments, like when I

1775
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 3: asked him, how will he compare his role to the

1776
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 3: last season, He's saying, you know, I'm a ballplayer. I

1777
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 3: can fit in anywhere. He's I think, trying to say

1778
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 3: these things and play the way he did in his

1779
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 3: return to placate all that. But again, it's still your

1780
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 3: larger point. It's one thing to do that one game,

1781
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,839
Speaker 3: but how about through the course of an entire season?

1782
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 3: And with that, we've always seen that that takes a

1783
01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:59,799
Speaker 3: life of its own because it's such a long season,

1784
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 3: and that could yield your shrewe collars through the ups

1785
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 3: and downs of it.

1786
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 2: So what's interesting is you kind of stole my thunder there.

1787
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 2: I was going to go down this road. I feel

1788
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 2: like Lebron is not only auditioning to prove he'll play

1789
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 2: another year in the NBA, which he's going to. You're

1790
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 2: not getting rid of this guy for a while, and

1791
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 2: he wants a full blown farewell tour. He wants to

1792
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 2: I think Mark play another year with the Lakers. I

1793
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 2: think he's trying to finagle his way into getting a

1794
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 2: contract to return with the Lakers. The problem is, and

1795
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 2: I'll try to make this quick, Lebron is not the

1796
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 2: cure for what ails the Lakers. At this point. We

1797
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 2: know his best scale is on ball dominance, even when

1798
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 2: he was a team player in Miami with d Wade

1799
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 2: and he was always the number one option. And frankly,

1800
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 2: he's not as athletic. He's become more of a perimeter

1801
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 2: shooter now and he's a liability on defense, and that's

1802
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 2: where the Lakers really need help on defense. So I

1803
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 2: think things can go wrong as the season goes on.

1804
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 2: Forget the offensive end, the physical conditioning, the ball handling,

1805
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 2: his age, his defensive impact, which are all issues. He's

1806
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 2: going to want that contract to come back to the

1807
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 2: Lakers next year. Am I wrong about that? Your thoughts?

1808
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 9: No, I think you're right.

1809
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 3: But I think the other thing that we have to

1810
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 3: see is that all the circumstances of this season is

1811
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 3: really going to provide clarity for both parties on what

1812
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 3: Lebron's future is. Because I think with the Lakers, I

1813
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 3: don't think they're against having them come back next season,

1814
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,639
Speaker 3: but it has to be under pretty specific conditions. It's

1815
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 3: not max contract now it's not minimum either, but it's

1816
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 3: a contract that would be less than Luca Doctis and

1817
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 3: even less than Austin Reeves because he's going to be

1818
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 3: eligible for a big payday next summer. And I think

1819
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 3: that the Lakers they want to keep them, and Austin

1820
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 3: Reeves wants to stay, but he also wants.

1821
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 13: To get paid.

1822
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 3: But I think the other thing with Lebron, he's made

1823
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 3: it very clear he doesn't want to prolong his career

1824
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 3: as a pedestrian player. He's not going to fight the

1825
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,600
Speaker 3: Vince Carter route. So I think if he sees the

1826
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 3: rate on the wall that this is, you know, for

1827
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 3: him to stay, whether with the Lakers or another team's

1828
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 3: going to require him to continue making pay cuts, he's

1829
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 3: just going to announce he decided his retirement. But I

1830
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 3: think because of the health being such a huge X factor,

1831
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 3: given where he is at his age forty years old,

1832
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 3: going to be forty one December thirtieth, and he's his

1833
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 3: twenty third season, I think for better and for worse,

1834
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:33,599
Speaker 3: he's going to feel his aches and pains. I think

1835
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 3: that that will provide further clarity that this could be

1836
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 3: his last year, and as a result of that, he'll

1837
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 3: announce before the season's over this is his last season.

1838
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 3: So at least he gets that farewell toward Truman. But

1839
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:49,640
Speaker 3: here's I think, Bernie, as you're probably listening as the

1840
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 3: listeners you're listening here, what we're gaining at is there's

1841
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 3: so many variables that with this that's going to be

1842
01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 3: a very compelling and shoose your own adventure book with

1843
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 3: this season. So there's just a lot of different moving

1844
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 3: parts with it that make it very complicated, but very

1845
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:10,760
Speaker 3: compelling and very unpredictable. We know what the factors are

1846
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,759
Speaker 3: going to be, but we don't know exactly how each

1847
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 3: factor will ultimately be in the whole percentage pie that

1848
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,919
Speaker 3: determines how these things play out for its future.

1849
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 2: Final thought, We're going to move on off this subject

1850
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 2: because I have other things from where I sit. If

1851
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 2: the Lakers truly have designs and I want to do

1852
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 2: at least make the Conference finals, they need to address

1853
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:35,679
Speaker 2: their lack of athleticism. They need more two way players.

1854
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 2: There's no question they have star power and they have

1855
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 2: Marquee Power and Luca and the you know, continuing career

1856
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 2: of Lebron. But they lack athleticism, they lack the two

1857
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 2: way players that can be more reliable on the defensive end,

1858
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 2: and they have too many specialists. Okay, they don't have

1859
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:56,560
Speaker 2: the versatility and they don't have the depth. But this

1860
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 2: is going to be a continuing conversation all year. It's

1861
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 2: going to be a fun season, not the least in

1862
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 2: which the new NBA All Star format. Mark tell the

1863
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,599
Speaker 2: people about the new NBA All Star format.

1864
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Americans versus international stars. Now, so you know,

1865
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 3: the NBA, they've been spinning the rolette wheel. How on

1866
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 3: earth do we get guys actually give a you know

1867
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:21,759
Speaker 3: what about the All Star teams. So now they're doing

1868
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 3: the international route and thinking, you know what, maybe this

1869
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 3: can be a mini Olympics kind of scenario where American

1870
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 3: pride on the line and the international stars will want

1871
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 3: to represent their country. Look, Bernie, I mean they don't

1872
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 3: need to play Game seven intensity and play forty eight

1873
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 3: minutes just put on a fun show. I think they

1874
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 3: need to go back to their real format and just

1875
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 3: thrill it in the players. You know what, if you

1876
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 3: don't come to compete. This will affect contracts, So I

1877
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 3: think in the short term there'll be a buy in

1878
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 3: because it's new, but it'll fizzle out, possibly in the

1879
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 3: second half, or fizzle out when they try to do it.

1880
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 4: The next year.

1881
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just they just need to go back

1882
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 3: to the traditional format East West and there's thrilled to

1883
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 3: the guys. Hey, you get paid a lot of money

1884
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 3: to entertain fans, so even if we're you don't we

1885
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 3: don't want to sacrifice your body for the second half

1886
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 3: of season. At least put on an entertaining show and

1887
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 3: act like you care.

1888
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 2: I think this is doomed to fail, and I'll tell

1889
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 2: you why because when I first heard International versus US,

1890
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 2: oh great. Then I looked into it. It's a three

1891
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 2: team round robin tournament with two US teams and one

1892
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:34,799
Speaker 2: international world team. And they're going to play for twelve

1893
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 2: minute games a twelve minute game, and you know they'll

1894
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:40,799
Speaker 2: vote on the players I guess, between coaches and fans,

1895
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 2: but it's not going to be based on anything other

1896
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 2: than the vote regardless of the position. Yeah, I agree,

1897
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 2: it's just too gimmicky. It's gimmicky.

1898
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 3: I agree. One hundred percent. I mean, if fans that

1899
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 3: are going to be intrigued with international basketball, there's this

1900
01:36:57,320 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 3: very old sporting event that comes out every Warriors. It's

1901
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 3: called the Olympics. So yeah, you can't replace or replicate that.

1902
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent. It's gimmicky.

1903
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 3: The NBA keeps trying to spin its own wheels and

1904
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 3: they're not going to ever get rid of the All

1905
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 3: Star Game. It's a teenpole event. It's a marketing thing.

1906
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 3: But they got to find a way, and I think

1907
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 3: it really comes down to negotiating the CBA and adding

1908
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 3: these incentives here that'll affect contracts. And now I think

1909
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 3: in the player's defense, they are being overloaded every year,

1910
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 3: both team imposed, league imposed, and themselves imposed with all

1911
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 3: these you know, with all these appearances, with you know,

1912
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 3: endorsements and promoters, et cetera, that by the time Sunday hits,

1913
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 3: they're kind of wiped out. They got to reduce that.

1914
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 3: But you know, other than that, I think everyone needs

1915
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 3: to be aware. Look, these tempole events exist because it's

1916
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 3: the fans, So give them the respect that they deserve

1917
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 3: and put on a show a.

1918
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 2: Couple more quick things. But these are important topics. Mark,

1919
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 2: I always wish we had more time. It's out of

1920
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:12,639
Speaker 2: the open now. The NBA has a severe tanking problem.

1921
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 2: What is Adam Silver going to do about it?

1922
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, he's already tried to do things like have

1923
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 3: the NBA Playans Tournament that's at least created more competition

1924
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 3: the last month of the season, and it's improved the

1925
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 3: tanking problem, but it hasn't eliminated the extreme tinking where

1926
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 3: if a team knows it's going to be bad, it

1927
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:40,719
Speaker 3: now becomes really really bad. And the weighted lottery system,

1928
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 3: they've tried to do that so that it's not guaranteed

1929
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 3: you'll get a number one pick just because you're bad.

1930
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,600
Speaker 3: And ironically that did play out last season when the

1931
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 3: Dallas Maverick's got the number one pick even though they

1932
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 3: had like less than two percent odds to get it.

1933
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 3: But it hasn't eliminated it completely. You know, I think

1934
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 3: it's got to the point Adam Silver's got to consider

1935
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 3: what uh, you know, the premier leagues and other international

1936
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 3: leagues have done with relegation, and I know that that's

1937
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 3: the whole got worm got you got to collectively bargain it.

1938
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 3: But maybe that all incentivize teams that are really bad

1939
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 3: not to be completely wetting in the bed real quickly.

1940
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 2: Look, it's more pronounced this year. In my humble opinion,

1941
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 2: there are four teams that lot that won two games

1942
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,639
Speaker 2: are less than their first thirteen games of the season.

1943
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:33,599
Speaker 2: That hadn't happened in twenty seven years. So something weird

1944
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 2: is going on. By the way, Wemby is hurt, how

1945
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:37,599
Speaker 2: soon he comes.

1946
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 3: Back, Spurs haven't given a timetable on that. These are

1947
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 3: calf injuries, so these are very dicey because they can

1948
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 3: often lead to Achilles injuries. Sneak preview, I talked with

1949
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 3: some Mount sign medical doctors about just this influx of injuries,

1950
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 3: what they make of it. And then when I ask

1951
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 3: some point blank, even given the caveya, you're not working

1952
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:00,759
Speaker 3: with the team, you don't have their medical files, which

1953
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 3: player concerns you the most of their injury? A few

1954
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 3: of them mentioned Victor one Binyama, because the calf injuries

1955
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 3: are always sensitive. If you come back too soon, you

1956
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 3: can get an achilles injury. But the other thing I

1957
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 3: mentioned is just Victor one Benyama's makeup. He's a he's

1958
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:20,839
Speaker 3: a you know, dominant big man with point guard skills

1959
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 3: and when you're being asked to, you know, stretch the floor,

1960
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 3: defend the perimeter, be a point guard and also be

1961
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 3: a rint protector. You're asking a lot out of a

1962
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:35,560
Speaker 3: player's workload, especially given his body makeup, So no timetable.

1963
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 3: But there's a reason why the Spurs are doing that,

1964
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 3: and you know, really handling them with care because I

1965
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:42,839
Speaker 3: don't want to take any chances.

1966
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 2: Mark only got about a minute, but this is important.

1967
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 2: I had the good fortune to visit with doctor Jerry

1968
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 2: Buss more than once during my three year tenure at

1969
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 2: the Forum. What would father Buss say about his sons

1970
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 2: Joey and Jesse being fired? Because that was their comment.

1971
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 2: I wonder what Dad would have to say about this.

1972
01:40:59,120 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 2: You got the last word.

1973
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really hard, but I mean I think ideally

1974
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 3: doctor Buss would have if it was up to him,

1975
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 3: all his siblings would still be part of, you know,

1976
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 3: the operation here. But since his passing twenty thirteen, so

1977
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,760
Speaker 3: many circumstances have changed. That's almost an unfair question to

1978
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 3: ask because Jeanie, Jim, Joey, Jesse, they're all going to

1979
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 3: have different versions on what they think their dad would

1980
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 3: have wanted, so, you know, I don't think he ever

1981
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 3: would have thought the Lakers would have ever sold it

1982
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 3: to anyone, and neither did Genian fairness. I remember asking

1983
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 3: her over the years and she would make it clear, hey,

1984
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 3: Lakers aren't for sale. The times have changed, you know,

1985
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:43,759
Speaker 3: as far as just the expense to run an operation,

1986
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 3: as well as the amount of money that very rich

1987
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 3: investors and ownership groups can pay for. So it got

1988
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 3: to the point where money talked a lot, and they

1989
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 3: gave too good of an offer to say no.

1990
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:57,639
Speaker 2: Well, and the bus is still maintaining a twenty percent

1991
01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 2: ownership stake, and Joey and Jesse their stakes and it

1992
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 2: was more of a ton and key question because that's

1993
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:07,719
Speaker 2: what they said. Barren, Yeah, Mark, I think.

1994
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 3: There's also frustration. I mean, as much as you might

1995
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 3: roll your eyes, they're going to be fine. And if

1996
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 3: you know against the sale, what do you expect. I

1997
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,759
Speaker 3: think there was also a feeling of hey, like, Jeanie,

1998
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 3: let us out to dry here and we're all in

1999
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 3: the family, and they were on good terms with Genie.

2000
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember talking to Jeanie two years ago

2001
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 3: and she was singing Joey and Jesse Buss's praises for

2002
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 3: how Jesse evaluated talent. He was really credited for getting

2003
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 3: guys like Austin Reeves and Kyle Kuzma. You know, Joey

2004
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:41,720
Speaker 3: Bust did a really good job overseeing their G League team,

2005
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 3: overseeing development. Among all the criticisms in the front office

2006
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:47,559
Speaker 3: got over the years, that was one of the few

2007
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 3: positives that they were very good in the scouting department

2008
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 3: and player development. A lot of that went to Joey

2009
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 3: and Jesse, and Jennie was very well aware of that.

2010
01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 3: So I think that in that context, that's partly why

2011
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,640
Speaker 3: Jossey was so public about his misgivings.

2012
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 2: Mark, great stuff. I'm already looking forward to next week.

2013
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 3: Thanks pal, I appreciate you man.

2014
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 2: Coming up to Bernie Frattles Show continues and yep, don't

2015
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2016
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2017
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2018
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2020
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2021
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2024
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2025
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Speaker 2: through a fire hose again. Got the Fantasy files up.

2026
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2027
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2028
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2030
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2031
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 2: kickoff for all the best plays and he up to

2032
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2034
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2035
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:29,719
Speaker 2: son's team is in first place, but he lost. Tucker

2036
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:33,280
Speaker 2: Craft did pick up Luke Musgrave. Not sure if he's

2037
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 2: starting on Sunday. He might start in for Kyle Pitts.

2038
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how Luke Musgrave fairs. He was

2039
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 2: actually drafted ahead of Tucker Craft a couple of years ago.

2040
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:47,599
Speaker 2: Tucker Craft won the job and he's been a star performed,

2041
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 2: but he's gone for the rest of the year. Well

2042
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 2: that's exactly why we do this. Next segment, it's time

2043
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:54,440
Speaker 2: for the Fantasy Files.

2044
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 8: Fantasy Files with Brandon Deutsch, your go to fantasy foot

2045
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 8: ball segment on win.

2046
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 19: Welcome to Fantasy Files on the Bernie Fratto Show. I

2047
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:09,200
Speaker 19: am Brandon Deutsch, and it is getting to the time

2048
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:11,640
Speaker 19: we need to win to make the playoffs in a

2049
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 19: lot of leagues, and it is It's almost there. The

2050
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:17,759
Speaker 19: playoffs are a few weeks away. This is where it matters.

2051
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 19: This is where the sits starts really materialize. And I

2052
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:26,719
Speaker 19: apologize for my voice getting recovering from some lerringitis still,

2053
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:29,640
Speaker 19: but you know what, that doesn't stop us because we

2054
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:31,839
Speaker 19: gotta win our matchups. Let's start with quin Shawn Judkins

2055
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:35,759
Speaker 19: against the Las Vegas Raiders. The Raiders are not good.

2056
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 19: The Browns run defense is fourteenth, right, their defense is good,

2057
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 19: their past defense is top fifteen, but points wise, they

2058
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 19: have a top five defense and I do think they'll

2059
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 19: be ahead the entire game. I don't think the Raiders

2060
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 19: will be able to do anything against this Browns team.

2061
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 19: So that's why I think Quinnjown Judkins is a must start.

2062
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,560
Speaker 19: I think they're gonna have the ball time of possession,

2063
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 19: and they're gonna run the football because they have a

2064
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,559
Speaker 19: quarterback that is new. It's his first week in the

2065
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:02,719
Speaker 19: system in Shador Sanders. I don't think he'll be passing

2066
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 19: the football at a high level. I would make sure

2067
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 19: to start him, and I would sit Alvin Kamar against Atlanta.

2068
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 19: He's battling an injury right now, and it's been a

2069
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 19: bad year for Alvin Kamara fantasy owners. He's had one

2070
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 19: decent game, I think one game where he scored a touchdown.

2071
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 19: All year, he might not even have scored a touchdown

2072
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 19: this year. He might have to fact check me on that.

2073
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 19: I think he has zero or one touchdown all year

2074
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 19: all year, maybe two max max. That's how bad he's been.

2075
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:32,559
Speaker 19: Atlanta's great against the pass, a little more a little

2076
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 19: worse against the run. I still would sit Alvin Kamara.

2077
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:37,719
Speaker 19: You would have to literally pay me to play Alvin

2078
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,720
Speaker 19: Kamara at this point in fantasy. I'm not kidding. Sit

2079
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:44,839
Speaker 19: Neil too. I don't trust any Saints except Chris Olave.

2080
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 19: I do trust Chris Olave. Make sure to start him.

2081
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 19: He's a lock in the lineup. Lock the target share

2082
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:51,760
Speaker 19: has been top five in the league all season long.

2083
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 19: Tyler Shuck being at quarterback does not change that he

2084
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 19: was getting targets with Ratler. He was getting targets with

2085
01:46:57,160 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 19: Tyler Shuck. Make sure to lock him into your lineup

2086
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 19: and start Jameison Williams as well. Bounce back game for

2087
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 19: Detroit against the New York Giants. That's great. Lock it in.

2088
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:09,160
Speaker 19: I mean he's a big play guy. I mean half

2089
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 19: the games. I mean flip a coin. It's either twenty

2090
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:14,640
Speaker 19: fantasy points or zero for Jamison Williams. This is a

2091
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 19: twenty fantasy point game. Make sure to sit Chewan Jennings

2092
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 19: against Carolina on Monday Night Football. This is a Ricky

2093
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:23,759
Speaker 19: Piersall game. Why Kyl Shanaan's gonna orchestrate getting Ricky piers

2094
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 19: All the ball because they didn't get him the ball

2095
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 19: last week? And now there's questions the ayyuk situation. Right, Oh,

2096
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 19: who's your wide receiver one?

2097
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 2: Now?

2098
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,719
Speaker 19: Is it Jennings you don't want to pay or Ricky Pearsall.

2099
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 19: Who's guaranteed to be in your roster next season? Oh

2100
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 19: it's Ricky Pearsall. Oh, let's show them so we have

2101
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:44,600
Speaker 19: less questions about basically who their wide receiver was, and

2102
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 19: one is going to be going in the next season.

2103
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 19: That's how coaches work. I just know how that works.

2104
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 19: He's gonna have a massive game, and that means Jennings

2105
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 19: will get the short end of the stick. Kit will

2106
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 19: have a big game. But obviously he's a locking in start.

2107
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:58,439
Speaker 19: Let's stay on the tight ends. I love Colston Lovelan

2108
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 19: locking in start against Pittsburgh. He's been a little bit

2109
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 19: of cryptocurrency with his production in the last few weeks,

2110
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 19: but I think you can trust him against Pittsburg, who's

2111
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,759
Speaker 19: a very susceptible defense bottom five in the league against

2112
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 19: the pass, and we know those seam routes they've given

2113
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 19: up to tight ends all year. I mean, Colston Lovelin's

2114
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:15,639
Speaker 19: gonna have a huge game. I would also make sure

2115
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,080
Speaker 19: to start Alec Pierce. We'll go back to wide receivers

2116
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 19: against Kansas City. Alec Pierce is the wide receiver one

2117
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 19: right now. If we're just looking at production in the

2118
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 19: last few weeks, Alec Pierce is the wide receiver one.

2119
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:28,160
Speaker 19: There is no doubt about it. Michael Pittman's good. Josh

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Speaker 19: Jowns is good. Pierce has got in the most yards,

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01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 19: the most touchdowns, and the most targets. Andy is the highest

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01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 19: prompt sixty one and a half receiving yards. That's the

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Speaker 19: highest of any receiver on the team, even Tyler Warren,

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Speaker 19: if you consider him. Tyler Warren's obviously a lot of it

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01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 19: didn't start. But we're not evening to get into that

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01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 19: because we got to sit tray Talker against Cleveland. I

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Speaker 19: am out on every raider. I don't care. Pete Carroll

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Speaker 19: does not play his best guys, Jack Besh. Thornton probably

2129
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 19: has two best receivers, but let's throw it to thirty

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01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:54,760
Speaker 19: eight year old Tyler Lockett. He's not thirty eight and

2131
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 19: I you know, great player, but my goodness, Pete Carroll

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01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 19: never plays rookies. And it's a really in the constant

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01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 19: team because Trey Tucker has a drop problem. He is fast,

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01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:05,639
Speaker 19: he does get open, but he's also about five foot

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01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:07,680
Speaker 19: four on a good day and he's like five to ten,

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01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 19: but he's not a vertical threat who thrown a two downfield.

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Speaker 19: If you don't play Thornton, where you don't play Besh

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01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:16,600
Speaker 19: exactly exactly, make sure, said Zavi, you're worthy too. He

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01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 19: hasn't been good all year and with her, she writes

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01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 19: coming back, he has put up dud after dead after dud.

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Speaker 19: He is the lineup lock on the bench. If we

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Speaker 19: have lineup locks, this is a bench lock. That's who

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01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 19: he is. Same with Parker Washington. Jacobey Myers was great

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01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 19: last week. He's going up against Arizona not a great defense.

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01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 19: They have some good dbs though. I think Parker Washington

2146
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 19: is an easy set. And like I mentioned, Freaky Pears's

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Speaker 19: a start. Sit Josh Downs because I mentioned Alec Pearce

2148
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 19: is a start. Josh Downs is not gonna play well.

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01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 19: He was good for a few weeks and then they

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01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 19: figured out, okay, we need to target Alec Pears. He's

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01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,760
Speaker 19: been that good. He catches everything. So make sure to

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01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 19: sit Josh Downs. Start tetor Rod McMillan against San Francisco.

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01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 19: San Francisco's given up three hundred and two passing yards

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01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 19: alone per game over their last three games. How bad

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01:49:57,479 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 19: is that. That's got to be the worst in the league.

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01:49:59,320 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 2: And it is.

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Speaker 19: And Tenero McMillan and Jalen Cocher are both starts. They're

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01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 19: gonna cook the forty nine ers defense on Monday Night Football. Finally,

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01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:10,639
Speaker 19: let's get into some sis. Start running backs. Start Trevion

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01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 19: Henderson against the Cincinnati Bengals. Love what he can bring

2161
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 19: off their big game. I know Ramondroe Stevenson is probably back.

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01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 19: I'd start both. Cincinnati's got the worst run defense in

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01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 19: the league, thirty second Sit Ban Night against Jacksonville's second

2164
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,879
Speaker 19: best run defense and all football and Star Travy CTN

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Speaker 19: against Arizon Mccardinals. He should have a big game in

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Speaker 19: sit Chase Brown. I know that's a crazy hot take

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01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:31,640
Speaker 19: sid Chase Brown against the New England Patriots. Thank you

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Speaker 19: guys so much for listening to fantasy files. You can

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Speaker 19: find me at PSD takes on Ax, Brandon s stowtch on,

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Speaker 19: TikTok and Instagram. Back to the Bernie Frado Show. Let's

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Speaker 19: win our matchups.

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Speaker 2: All right, dude, you have a lot of ground covered

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01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,560
Speaker 2: in case you were wondering. Yeah, Album Kamara not a

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Speaker 2: banner year. He's actually only scored. We're with Thanksgiving. Let's

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01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:52,439
Speaker 2: face Thanksgiving is next week. He scored one. He could

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01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 2: score one touchdown all year. He's averaging three point six

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Speaker 2: year outs of Cary. He's only run for four and

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Speaker 2: sixty yards all year. That does not make for a

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Speaker 2: Fantasy championship. These next three weeks are critical. You want

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01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:04,600
Speaker 2: to make your playoffs, you want to even get a

2181
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 2: buye if you can. And then after that that's where

2182
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:09,680
Speaker 2: the big money starts, when the playoffs come and you

2183
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 2: want to score your points. And so this is where

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Speaker 2: it gets interesting. You know, Josh Jacobs is probably out Sunday.

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01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna save him for Thanksgiving. I know

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01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna have a pregame workout as it were, and

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01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 2: see how strong he is if he can go. But

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01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:27,240
Speaker 2: I just think that they're probably better off saving him

2189
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 2: for the Lions Thursday. That's going to be an important

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01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 2: game for Green Bay. So anyway, there you have it.

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Files. Coming up, we ask the eternal question that

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Speaker 2: people seem to want to know. Is the Kansas City

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01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:46,719
Speaker 2: Chiefs mystique gone for good? I'll give you my thoughts

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Speaker 2: coming up, and here's the tease. No, but we're gonna

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Speaker 2: talk about some inconvenient truths. If you are a Chiefs

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Speaker 2: Kingdom fan, I do believe they beat the Colts Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I really believe they beat the Colts Sunday. I'm Bernie Friddle,

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Speaker 2: comes to you live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie

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01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 2: Fraddle Show on five. All right back at the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Frautle Show Fox Sports Radio. There have been people waiting

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Speaker 2: to bury the Chiefs for a long time, and I

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01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 2: get it. They've had enough. There's Chiefs fatigue. But I'm

2204
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 2: not so sure. Do I think they're gonna win the

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01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:29,600
Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year? No? Do I think they'll be

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01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. You can't count of out just yet.

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01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 2: Heading into Sunday's game, Patrick Mahomes has never lost three

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01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 2: consecutive regular season games, and the Chiefs haven't been below

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Speaker 2: five hundred through eleven games in fourteen years. Now. Technically,

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01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:50,720
Speaker 2: both of those streaks are risk on Sunday, when the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs host the Colts in a pretty crucial game after

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01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 2: two straight losses. Well, now you know, the Chiefs are

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01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:01,120
Speaker 2: five and five this season. If the season were to

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01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 2: end today, the Chiefs would be on the outside looking

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01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 2: in in the playoff picture. But I think coming home

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01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:10,760
Speaker 2: is going to be with the doctor order in case

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01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 2: he's four and won a home this season. For some

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01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 2: they're only one in four on the road. I get

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01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 2: it's going to be a difficult test for Kansas City.

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01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 2: I get it. The Colts are eight and two, they're

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01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 2: coming off of bye, Jonathan Taylor leaves the league in rushing.

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01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:26,560
Speaker 2: They're for real. But I've said it many times. You

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01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 2: put a hothouse team out in the cold in November

2224
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:35,200
Speaker 2: on regular grass, are not quite the same dynamic. The

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01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 2: Chiefs defense is going to have their handful, but those

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01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 2: good the Colts. I mean, there's some critical matchup issues here.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Mahomes could be facing a replenished

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01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:46,520
Speaker 2: Colts secondary.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: He's throwing fourteen touchdowns three interceptions at home this season

2231
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:52,840
Speaker 2: compared to four touchdowns and three interceptions on the road,

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01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 2: So you've got a good home road split favoring Mahomes.

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01:53:57,680 --> 01:53:59,679
Speaker 2: And Daniel Jones has come back to earth a little

2234
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 2: bit after after a strong start. He was a real

2235
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 2: feel good story. He's a good player, right, And the

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01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,840
Speaker 2: Colts have a tough stretch. They're eight and two. They

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01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 2: deserve the record, but they've faced a somewhat lighter schedule

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01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 2: so far. Starting Sunday, they're gonna have seven straight opponents

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01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:17,720
Speaker 2: that are above five hundred. I like the Chiefs to

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Speaker 2: win this game, but I haven't addressed the elephant in

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01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 2: the room. Is the Chiefs mystique gone? Is it gone

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01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:26,760
Speaker 2: for good? Is it gone this season? You know there's

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01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 2: no old saying Casey Stengel had back in the fifties

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01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 2: within the New York Yankees win like nine World Series

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01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 2: in eleven years. He said teams can't beat the Yankees

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01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:41,080
Speaker 2: because they get stuck staring at the pinstripes, the moral

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01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 2: they could win on the reputation they intimidated teams. I

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01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:46,920
Speaker 2: think the Chiefs used to do that. They don't anymore, okay,

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01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 2: And the claim that the chief dominance is potentially over

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Speaker 2: is frankly supported by most of the recent performance struggles,

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Speaker 2: particularly the fact they're zero to five this year in

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01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 2: one score game and last year or were they something

2253
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 2: crazy like eleven and zero in one score games. Be

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01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 2: that as it may, things have a way to regress

2255
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 2: back to the mean. But if you look at this

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Speaker 2: objectively and honestly, the Chiefs I think are kind of

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01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 2: like an eight and two team disguised as a five

2258
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 2: and five team. Remember when Travis Kelcey dropped that pass

2259
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 2: in the end zone and went right to a Philadelphia Eagle. Okay,

2260
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:29,840
Speaker 2: that's part of the game. And the fifths and butts

2261
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 2: were candy and nuts who have a merry Christmas. But

2262
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:34,360
Speaker 2: it happened. These things didn't happen in the past. Mahomes

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01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 2: subsequent to that through a terrible interception in a critical

2264
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 2: moment against Jacksonville in the end zone, and you saw

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01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:42,720
Speaker 2: what happened last week. Mahomes was very un mahomes like.

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01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:47,160
Speaker 2: So his play has diminished on the road, that's undeniable.

2267
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 2: Where he was once making those Houdini pull a rabbit

2268
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 2: out of the hat place to win games, now the

2269
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 2: opposite is happening. He frankly made some plays that cost

2270
01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 2: his team games. But there's a long way to go

2271
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 2: in this season, okay. And when you consider these factors, yes,

2272
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:08,960
Speaker 2: that are contributing to their inconsistencies on both offense and defense,

2273
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:12,879
Speaker 2: a challenging schedule, and you've got the emergence of strong

2274
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 2: divisional arrivals like Denver. So Kansas City finds itself, frankly

2275
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 2: in an unfamiliar situation. They won the division nine years

2276
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 2: in a row. They're not going to win the division

2277
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 2: this year. They need to get into the playoffs. They

2278
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:25,720
Speaker 2: need to get in the tournament, and they need to

2279
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 2: start winning consistently to secure that playoff spot. But they're

2280
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:30,880
Speaker 2: no longer going to be able to coast into the

2281
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 2: playoffs on a dominant reputation. These are their issues. These

2282
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 2: are facts. There are objective truths, and there are personal feelings.

2283
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 2: These are objective truths. The Chiefs have struggled in close games.

2284
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 2: The Chiefs offense has been able to consistently win one

2285
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 2: score games, a trend that's the exact opposite of previous seasons. Objectively,

2286
01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:58,840
Speaker 2: the Chiefs have offensive line issues. Their offensive line has

2287
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 2: been very inconsistent. That hasn't helped Patrick Mahomes, and as such,

2288
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 2: the offense has been less effective in converting opportunities into wins.

2289
01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:12,240
Speaker 2: They've also had defensive consistency. The Chiefs defense has not

2290
01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 2: been as dominant as in past championship runs, and their

2291
01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 2: defensive front is failing to generate the same level of disruption.

2292
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 2: Not at home, they're better. They already have, allowing seventeen

2293
01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 2: point nine points a game at home. But also they've

2294
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:31,000
Speaker 2: had health issues. The Chiefs injuries, particularly athletes coming off surgeries.

2295
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 2: You get it. They're not the same. Now there are

2296
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 2: other things out of their control somewhat, it's a much

2297
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 2: stronger division. The AFC WESH is a much tougher division.

2298
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:47,080
Speaker 2: Teams like the Broncos and Chargers are formidable opponents. They've

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01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 2: lost to both this year the Chiefs. The Chiefs have

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01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:53,240
Speaker 2: a challenging schedule. The remaining schedule does not offer much relief.

2301
01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 2: You've got games against playoff contenders like the Cowboys and

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01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 2: Texans still d as well. Oh yeah, you got the

2303
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 2: Colts on Sunday. Now what needs to change. The Chiefs

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01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:09,800
Speaker 2: have to regain and refined if that's such a word. Refined,

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01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:13,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, an offensive rhythm. They need to get

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01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 2: consistency on offense. They need to generate more explosive players

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01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:19,040
Speaker 2: in the run game. And they're down a running back.

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01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 2: I don't think they get up Isaia Pacheco back until

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01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:25,440
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving weekend. Big week for the Chiefs coming up. You've

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01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:28,560
Speaker 2: got two big games in a span of four or

2311
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:31,560
Speaker 2: five days here. The Chiefs also need to re establish

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01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 2: their defensive dominance. They got to play at a higher level.

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01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:37,560
Speaker 2: You've got to be much more complimentary football. And again

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01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:42,240
Speaker 2: I mentioned it before, Patrick Mahomes he noted himself, the

2315
01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:46,360
Speaker 2: team needs to be more consistent in all three phases,

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01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 2: not what's interesting and why you cannot go to sleep

2317
01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 2: on the Chiefs. Whenever the Chiefs have faced challenges in

2318
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:59,560
Speaker 2: this particular season, you can't say they're unprecedented. Well they

2319
01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 2: are for this iteration of the Chiefs. Then there have

2320
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:04,720
Speaker 2: been five and five after ten games under Patrick Mahomes.

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01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:08,480
Speaker 2: But it's important to note with Mahomes and Andy Reid,

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01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:11,320
Speaker 2: they're not only still dangerous, this is a team that's

2323
01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 2: faced adversity before and frankly have passed his prologue. They

2324
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:20,920
Speaker 2: overcome it. Well, that starts Sunday again. I repeat, Patrick

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Speaker 2: Mahomes has never lost three consecutive regular season starts. The

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Speaker 2: Chiefs have never been below five hundred through eleven games

2327
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 2: since twenty twelve. And yes, both streaks are on the

2328
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:38,839
Speaker 2: line Sunday. The Chiefs are five and five. They're outside

2329
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 2: looking in on the playoff AFC playoff picture, and we'll

2330
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:44,360
Speaker 2: see what happens Sunday. I think the Chiefs will win. Still,

2331
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:46,760
Speaker 2: it's going to be a very difficult test for a

2332
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:49,840
Speaker 2: Chiefs team that's played just two teams currently below five hundred.

2333
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 11: This season.

2334
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:52,400
Speaker 2: The Colts are eight and two coming off of buye.

2335
01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:56,560
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor leaves the NFL in rushing and rushing touchdowns,

2336
01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 2: and he's been an absolute superstart every since of the

2337
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:01,680
Speaker 2: world word. As a matter of fact, against Week ten

2338
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:05,280
Speaker 2: against the Falcons, this was in Berlin. Even though the

2339
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:09,480
Speaker 2: Colts struggled on offense, Taylor saved the day, ran for

2340
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:11,680
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty four yards, including an eighty three

2341
02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 2: hour touchdown run of the fourth order to really put

2342
02:00:15,320 --> 02:00:19,720
Speaker 2: the game in Indianapolis favor, and ran for an eight

2343
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:23,480
Speaker 2: year touchdown in overtime. So the Chiefs defense is going

2344
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:27,560
Speaker 2: to have their hands full, all right, So this game

2345
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:32,440
Speaker 2: likely I believe Hinji's on two key factors. One can

2346
02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:37,240
Speaker 2: the Chiefs slow down and somewhat contain Jonathan Taylor? And

2347
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:41,440
Speaker 2: can the Colts slow down Patrick Mahomes. Now, Kansas City

2348
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:44,840
Speaker 2: has been very good against the run lately, allowing the

2349
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:47,200
Speaker 2: third fewest yards per carrying the bat and the league

2350
02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:51,040
Speaker 2: since Week five. But Indy they're an entirely different animal,

2351
02:00:51,160 --> 02:00:53,280
Speaker 2: and if their running game gets going well, that's going

2352
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:56,120
Speaker 2: to open up passing lanes for Daniel Jones. He's an

2353
02:00:56,160 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 2: excellent play action passer. Still, the Chiefs are at home.

2354
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:03,640
Speaker 2: This is where Mahomes excels. They have their back against

2355
02:01:03,680 --> 02:01:05,560
Speaker 2: the wall. Do I think they're going to come through

2356
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:11,920
Speaker 2: as they start to make their postseason push? I say yes. Now.

2357
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:15,200
Speaker 2: Mahomes is also thrown for at least three touchdowns in

2358
02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:19,360
Speaker 2: four straight games. Rashee, Rice, Travis, Kelcey, Hollywood Brown xaper' worthy.

2359
02:01:19,600 --> 02:01:21,960
Speaker 2: They gotta get busy Sunday. So there you have it.

2360
02:01:22,520 --> 02:01:26,040
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. The Bernie Frales Show continues. You're

2361
02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:30,720
Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Fraddlesh That's right, you heard the man,

2362
02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:34,040
Speaker 2: the Bernie Fradles Show. Game's rolling right along. My name

2363
02:01:34,120 --> 02:01:36,440
Speaker 2: is Bernie Fradderwick kemedy lyon from the Fox Sports Radio

2364
02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:39,240
Speaker 2: studios here in Las Vegas. Take you up to three

2365
02:01:39,320 --> 02:01:42,920
Speaker 2: and Pacific six am Eastern. A lot of stuff to

2366
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:46,280
Speaker 2: get to. You heard my thoughts on the Chiefs. It's

2367
02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:52,280
Speaker 2: an interesting NFL season. From this standpoint. We have seven

2368
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:56,920
Speaker 2: weeks remaining in the twenty twenty five NFL season, and

2369
02:01:57,200 --> 02:02:02,520
Speaker 2: believe it or not, nineteen teams are either any playoff

2370
02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:06,760
Speaker 2: spot or win a game of eight playoff spot. And

2371
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:09,360
Speaker 2: when it boils down to it. If you're four and

2372
02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:13,840
Speaker 2: six or better, you are in it, you're not out

2373
02:02:13,880 --> 02:02:17,480
Speaker 2: of it. That would include Minnesota and Dallas who are

2374
02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:20,280
Speaker 2: touched for their back but remain in the picture at

2375
02:02:20,280 --> 02:02:22,320
Speaker 2: four and six and four or five to one, respectively.

2376
02:02:22,640 --> 02:02:27,520
Speaker 2: So that's twenty one potential contenders or pretenders. Now, how

2377
02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:31,240
Speaker 2: do I define contender getting to the super Bowl? To

2378
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:33,120
Speaker 2: contend for a Super Bowl, you have to be in

2379
02:02:33,360 --> 02:02:35,600
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, So I'm not talking about playoffs or

2380
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:38,280
Speaker 2: you're might make some noise in the platin you to

2381
02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:41,480
Speaker 2: get there, you don't. So I'm gonna rapid fire go

2382
02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:44,440
Speaker 2: through these teams. And if I say they're pretender, doesn't

2383
02:02:44,440 --> 02:02:47,240
Speaker 2: mean I don't think they're good. Doesn't mean I don't

2384
02:02:47,240 --> 02:02:50,120
Speaker 2: think they've had a successful season. It means I don't

2385
02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:51,760
Speaker 2: think they are going to get to the super Bowl.

2386
02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:54,480
Speaker 2: I want to start with the New England Patriots. They've

2387
02:02:54,480 --> 02:02:57,320
Speaker 2: been outstanding this year, but their wins have come against

2388
02:02:57,680 --> 02:03:01,000
Speaker 2: quote unquote lesser opponents, and they have a roster to

2389
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:04,840
Speaker 2: lax talent compared to other contenders. But for a rebuild year,

2390
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:08,720
Speaker 2: the Pats, they're a year away. Now they can change

2391
02:03:08,760 --> 02:03:10,480
Speaker 2: my mind if they beat both the Bills in the

2392
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:14,800
Speaker 2: Ravens next month. But for now, I said I thought

2393
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:18,360
Speaker 2: the Patriots and the Arizona would be very good this year.

2394
02:03:18,440 --> 02:03:21,560
Speaker 2: I was half right. And the truth of the matter is,

2395
02:03:22,760 --> 02:03:25,240
Speaker 2: I think Drake made is an MVP favorite, and I

2396
02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:27,560
Speaker 2: do think they are very good and will make the

2397
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 2: playoffs and the probably win their division. Do I think

2398
02:03:30,120 --> 02:03:30,920
Speaker 2: they're going to the super Bowl?

2399
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 9: No?

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02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:33,520
Speaker 2: I told that makes them a pretender. The Buffalo Bills.

2401
02:03:33,640 --> 02:03:36,400
Speaker 2: This may shock you. I still think they're a contender.

2402
02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:39,400
Speaker 2: They're a tat off. So are the Chiefs and the Ravens.

2403
02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:41,080
Speaker 2: Chiefs are five and five, and you know what the

2404
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:43,920
Speaker 2: Ravens are. They lost at home to the Patriots, but

2405
02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:46,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna get a chance to beat them in Foxborough

2406
02:03:46,640 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 2: next month, and they can still win the division. Now,

2407
02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:52,400
Speaker 2: only Buffalo, and when Buffalo gets to the playoffs, because

2408
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:55,919
Speaker 2: they have a talent and they have experience and a quarterback,

2409
02:03:56,720 --> 02:03:59,160
Speaker 2: only the Chiefs or Ravens could beat them in the playoffs.

2410
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:02,200
Speaker 2: And they're not. They're not locked down either right now,

2411
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:05,920
Speaker 2: so I consider Buffalo a contender. You got a reigning

2412
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:09,360
Speaker 2: MVP quarterback. Okay, they've had their blips. They had one

2413
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:14,959
Speaker 2: Thursday night. They're a contender Pittsburgh Steelers. Good story, pretender,

2414
02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:17,240
Speaker 2: Tell me why this team is any more of a

2415
02:04:17,320 --> 02:04:19,360
Speaker 2: threat than the teams that field to win playoff games

2416
02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:21,760
Speaker 2: in each of the last eight seasons. They're two and

2417
02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:25,240
Speaker 2: three in their last five and they got Chicago, Buffalo,

2418
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:28,000
Speaker 2: and Baltimore coming up. I do think they beat Chicago Sunday,

2419
02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:30,800
Speaker 2: but they're a pretender. Pittsburgh's not going to the super Bowl.

2420
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:34,480
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. I say this speak grudgingly, but I will

2421
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:39,400
Speaker 2: put the contender moniker on them because they get hot

2422
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:41,200
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Can they beat Buffalo yet? Can they

2423
02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:43,640
Speaker 2: be Kansas City? Yeah? But they still have to do it.

2424
02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:45,880
Speaker 2: They started one in five for a reason. They have

2425
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:48,200
Speaker 2: no margin of error, and they're gonna have to win

2426
02:04:48,320 --> 02:04:50,120
Speaker 2: road playoff games to get to a super Bowl that

2427
02:04:50,200 --> 02:04:52,160
Speaker 2: has them in their formula in the past. Having said that,

2428
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:56,120
Speaker 2: the list is short, so I'll give them a contender

2429
02:04:56,200 --> 02:05:00,360
Speaker 2: with an asterisk. Okay, I'm not sold on Baltimore. They

2430
02:05:00,480 --> 02:05:02,879
Speaker 2: do something. Something happens when they get in the playoffs,

2431
02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 2: and I know it was very fashionable for them to

2432
02:05:05,720 --> 02:05:06,960
Speaker 2: for a lot of people to pick them to win

2433
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. This year. I'm not one of them,

2434
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:12,600
Speaker 2: but I'll give them the contender notion. Now, the Colts,

2435
02:05:13,160 --> 02:05:16,360
Speaker 2: all right, I think it's been a great story, but

2436
02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:20,040
Speaker 2: I gotta call them a pretender. Why they got some

2437
02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:24,760
Speaker 2: tough road matchups next month, well, starting today the Chiefs.

2438
02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:27,720
Speaker 2: Then you got to go to Jacksonville and to Seattle.

2439
02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:30,520
Speaker 2: I think they could still win the division, and I

2440
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:32,120
Speaker 2: think they can win a playoff game. But do I

2441
02:05:32,200 --> 02:05:34,880
Speaker 2: think the Colts are actually gonna go to the super Bowl?

2442
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:37,360
Speaker 2: Even though they have Daniel Jones who's better, and people

2443
02:05:37,400 --> 02:05:40,520
Speaker 2: giving credit for Jonathan Taylor in a good defense, they're

2444
02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:43,600
Speaker 2: under the red arm. They're six and zero at home. Look,

2445
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:47,080
Speaker 2: the bottom line is this. I will say that they

2446
02:05:47,120 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 2: are pretenders, but had a damn good year. Colts aren't

2447
02:05:49,720 --> 02:05:53,960
Speaker 2: going to Super Bowl. Jacksonville Jaguars, A come on, they're

2448
02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:57,240
Speaker 2: a pretender. They're kind of a jeck On High team.

2449
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:01,240
Speaker 2: You can't do that in January. And I don't dislike

2450
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:02,960
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, but I don't have a lot of confidence

2451
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:05,960
Speaker 2: in them either. That's just face it. They'll be surprised

2452
02:06:05,960 --> 02:06:09,440
Speaker 2: if Arizona upsets Jacksonville Sunday. As two and a half

2453
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:14,800
Speaker 2: point home Dogs, Houston Texans. Sorry, they're pretenders, top ranked

2454
02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:19,320
Speaker 2: scoring defense. I love CJ. Strive when he's healthy. He

2455
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:21,200
Speaker 2: hasn't been on his game this year, and they've dug

2456
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:23,400
Speaker 2: themselves a bit of a hole. They're now six and

2457
02:06:23,560 --> 02:06:27,280
Speaker 2: five right and I don't know. They have an upcoming

2458
02:06:27,320 --> 02:06:30,920
Speaker 2: stretch again against the coltson Chiefs, and I would say

2459
02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:33,760
Speaker 2: they're just short. Could they be a playoff team? Yeah,

2460
02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:37,800
Speaker 2: but again contender versus pretender meaning you're a contender. I mean,

2461
02:06:37,840 --> 02:06:39,680
Speaker 2: you can get to the super Bowl. I don't see it.

2462
02:06:40,240 --> 02:06:43,080
Speaker 2: How about the Denver Broncos, Yes, they're a contender. They're

2463
02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:45,200
Speaker 2: technically the top seed in the NFL right now at

2464
02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:48,560
Speaker 2: nine to two following a big statement, you know, Week

2465
02:06:48,640 --> 02:06:51,280
Speaker 2: eleven victory over Kansas City. You gotta give him credit.

2466
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:55,680
Speaker 2: That's crossing a major rubicon for Denver Broncos fans. Their

2467
02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:59,200
Speaker 2: defense is elite. Bow Knicks had times has been stellar.

2468
02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:02,720
Speaker 2: I guess they've been a you know, a erratic and inconsistent,

2469
02:07:03,280 --> 02:07:07,320
Speaker 2: but they and they're not you know, they're prone to turnovers.

2470
02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:10,840
Speaker 2: But last year they got there, and they got there

2471
02:07:10,920 --> 02:07:14,120
Speaker 2: year early and they weren't quite ready. Sean Payton has

2472
02:07:14,360 --> 02:07:17,320
Speaker 2: taken his team to new heights. If the offense can

2473
02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:20,320
Speaker 2: iron some things out, the Broncos have it in their

2474
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:22,840
Speaker 2: DNA to get to the Super Bowl. I'm gonna call

2475
02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:27,680
Speaker 2: them a contender. We'll see the Chargers pretender. Come on, man,

2476
02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:32,400
Speaker 2: they got the Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, Broncos coming up. They

2477
02:07:32,440 --> 02:07:35,960
Speaker 2: got slaughtered by the Jaguars last week. I think they

2478
02:07:36,040 --> 02:07:39,520
Speaker 2: peaked too early. They've had too many injuries. Justin Herbert

2479
02:07:39,640 --> 02:07:43,120
Speaker 2: is behind an offensive line that's that's horrible. And the

2480
02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:46,520
Speaker 2: Chargers have benefited, frankly from a lesser than scheduled You'll

2481
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:48,600
Speaker 2: never hear me called an NFL schedule week. You just

2482
02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:52,200
Speaker 2: don't do that. They're all it's a gauntlet. Some teams

2483
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:57,320
Speaker 2: are better than others. But you know, look, hard Ball's

2484
02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:00,720
Speaker 2: got a track record in college and lead quarterback and

2485
02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:02,560
Speaker 2: a strong defense. Mindum never won the big one in

2486
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:05,160
Speaker 2: the NFL. They're not going to this year. They're pretenders

2487
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:07,480
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. How can you not call them a contender?

2488
02:08:07,840 --> 02:08:10,080
Speaker 2: You still got to knock out the champ. They've been

2489
02:08:10,160 --> 02:08:14,560
Speaker 2: the champ third best scoring margin plus minus seventy three

2490
02:08:14,600 --> 02:08:16,200
Speaker 2: in the conference, and they rank in the top ten

2491
02:08:16,240 --> 02:08:19,120
Speaker 2: and scoring and offense and defense. And the truth of

2492
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:21,960
Speaker 2: the matter is, yeah, they're five and five down, but

2493
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:23,560
Speaker 2: they'll be surprised that they go six and one down

2494
02:08:23,600 --> 02:08:27,280
Speaker 2: to stretch, maybe run the table. They've got the DNA,

2495
02:08:27,320 --> 02:08:28,760
Speaker 2: They've proven they can do it. They got to do

2496
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:33,080
Speaker 2: it again. We'll see. Nothing's guaranteed, but the Chiefs are

2497
02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:38,839
Speaker 2: not pretenders. Here's what cracks me up about the Philadelphia Eagles.

2498
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:41,640
Speaker 2: I am baffled.

2499
02:08:41,920 --> 02:08:42,480
Speaker 11: I get.

2500
02:08:43,880 --> 02:08:46,520
Speaker 2: That their offense hasn't been as pretty as some people

2501
02:08:46,600 --> 02:08:49,920
Speaker 2: wanted to. They're bitching about their quarterback. They're frustrated with

2502
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:53,880
Speaker 2: the quarterback situation. What the hell? What in the wide

2503
02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:56,720
Speaker 2: wide world of sports is going on here? Jalen Hurst

2504
02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:59,360
Speaker 2: is twenty two to three in his last two seasons,

2505
02:08:59,440 --> 02:09:03,560
Speaker 2: fifty fifty eight touchdowns, three interceptions and a passer rating

2506
02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:05,800
Speaker 2: a one to ten. And he was twelve to three

2507
02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:07,760
Speaker 2: last year, went to a Super Bowl. He's eight and

2508
02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:11,200
Speaker 2: two this year, completion percentage sixty seven percent this year,

2509
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:15,000
Speaker 2: sixteen touchdowns, one interception. He's passing for six more yards

2510
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:17,480
Speaker 2: a game now last than he did last year, and

2511
02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:21,480
Speaker 2: it's passer rating is higher than it was last year. Well,

2512
02:09:22,440 --> 02:09:24,880
Speaker 2: Philly is a contender. Repeating ain't easy, but there's no

2513
02:09:25,240 --> 02:09:28,320
Speaker 2: question Philadelphia is going to be in the picture deep

2514
02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:31,920
Speaker 2: into January. They're starting to surge at the perfect time.

2515
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:35,240
Speaker 2: I'm curious how they do against Dallas Sunday. Could there

2516
02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:38,880
Speaker 2: be an upset, Yeah, but I don't expect it. Look

2517
02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:41,000
Speaker 2: at the end of the year in the NFL, they

2518
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:43,280
Speaker 2: don't ask Kyle just how many, and the Eagles will

2519
02:09:43,480 --> 02:09:45,640
Speaker 2: seem like they're on their way to win fourteen games again,

2520
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:50,520
Speaker 2: if not more so. Yes, I get the offense lacks consistency,

2521
02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:52,840
Speaker 2: but I just told you what the quarterback's doing. So

2522
02:09:53,560 --> 02:09:57,000
Speaker 2: Philly is very much on the contender side, you know.

2523
02:09:57,080 --> 02:09:59,960
Speaker 2: And I'm actually kind of finding myself enjoying this Cowboys story.

2524
02:10:00,200 --> 02:10:04,000
Speaker 2: Wasn't a Mike McCarthy guy. I do like Brian Schottenheimer,

2525
02:10:04,040 --> 02:10:06,360
Speaker 2: I do. I love the way Dakas really stepped up

2526
02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:09,600
Speaker 2: this year. They've added on defense, but they're still a pretender.

2527
02:10:09,680 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 2: They just can't get to the Super Bowl this year.

2528
02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:14,480
Speaker 2: I don't think they've only won eleven of the last

2529
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:15,360
Speaker 2: twenty eight games.

2530
02:10:17,080 --> 02:10:17,440
Speaker 11: They have a.

2531
02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:21,360
Speaker 2: Negative scoring margin. They got the Eagles, Chiefs and Lions

2532
02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:24,840
Speaker 2: and consecutive weeks. It's not an easy path, not an

2533
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:27,800
Speaker 2: easy path. They have contender talent, and I hope they

2534
02:10:27,880 --> 02:10:30,440
Speaker 2: get to the playoffs. I think it'd be an interesting story.

2535
02:10:30,520 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 2: I really do Bears big time pretender. They're strong, they're

2536
02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:38,200
Speaker 2: on the right track. Too many live high wire escape

2537
02:10:38,240 --> 02:10:40,640
Speaker 2: acts they've had this year. All Right, we'll see if

2538
02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:43,960
Speaker 2: the Bears survived the Steelers Sunday. Then we'll see if

2539
02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:46,920
Speaker 2: they survived the pack the Packers twice, the forty nine Ers,

2540
02:10:47,280 --> 02:10:50,800
Speaker 2: and the Lions and Eagles between now and the end

2541
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:54,080
Speaker 2: of the season. Are you serious? The schedule is about

2542
02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:57,280
Speaker 2: to get real. The Bears were easily put away by

2543
02:10:57,320 --> 02:10:59,640
Speaker 2: the Ravens last month, and they almost choked it down

2544
02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:04,880
Speaker 2: against Minnesota in Week eleven. I'm not buying it. Kodles

2545
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:07,320
Speaker 2: to what Ben Johnson has done. Not way over with

2546
02:11:07,360 --> 02:11:08,720
Speaker 2: a feather if you'd have told me there had been

2547
02:11:09,240 --> 02:11:15,600
Speaker 2: seven to three heading into Thanksgiving. Green Bay Packers. Actually,

2548
02:11:15,960 --> 02:11:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm very slightly gonna give them a contender, but I

2549
02:11:19,120 --> 02:11:21,440
Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna do it. They get an asterisk

2550
02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:24,600
Speaker 2: like the Ravens. Okay, they're up and down. I like

2551
02:11:24,760 --> 02:11:28,880
Speaker 2: Jordan Love, but he's inconsistent. They're not dominant at all. Okay,

2552
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:30,760
Speaker 2: he started out two and oh they're four to three

2553
02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:34,520
Speaker 2: and one. I believe had Jackson Dart started last Sunday,

2554
02:11:34,560 --> 02:11:37,640
Speaker 2: the New York Giants would have beat him. Detroit Lions contender.

2555
02:11:38,200 --> 02:11:40,480
Speaker 2: I expect them to be in the super Bowl. Something

2556
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:44,440
Speaker 2: isn't clicking. Defensive injuries are factoring in, but they're still

2557
02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:47,320
Speaker 2: right there in the NFC North. I think they'll they're

2558
02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:51,040
Speaker 2: going to handle their business big time Sunday later today

2559
02:11:51,600 --> 02:11:54,520
Speaker 2: against Jameis Winston and the Giants. That game, to me

2560
02:11:54,640 --> 02:11:57,000
Speaker 2: feels like it's got thirty seven to six written all over.

2561
02:11:57,120 --> 02:12:01,440
Speaker 2: We'll see, uh you got the hackers on Thanksgiving. The

2562
02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:05,200
Speaker 2: Bears are more flawed, less talented. Listen, the Lions are

2563
02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:07,919
Speaker 2: back in that for Mayor spot. They're No one's expecting

2564
02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:11,320
Speaker 2: them to do anything this year. They blew the lead

2565
02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:13,480
Speaker 2: two years ago at San Francisco in the fourth court.

2566
02:12:13,480 --> 02:12:15,800
Speaker 2: They or other way to the super Bowl, and then

2567
02:12:15,840 --> 02:12:17,600
Speaker 2: they started out top of the hill last year, and

2568
02:12:17,680 --> 02:12:20,080
Speaker 2: then after Thanksgiving they were a complete match unit. They

2569
02:12:20,120 --> 02:12:22,720
Speaker 2: had thirteen players on iron defense who played at one

2570
02:12:22,720 --> 02:12:25,640
Speaker 2: started at one time or another. And that's what happened. Okay,

2571
02:12:26,120 --> 02:12:28,920
Speaker 2: fifteen and two last year the most talented squa out

2572
02:12:28,960 --> 02:12:33,800
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Check Dan Campbell after a loss. Last

2573
02:12:33,880 --> 02:12:38,560
Speaker 2: thirteen losses when of the next game covered a spread

2574
02:12:38,560 --> 02:12:41,560
Speaker 2: and every one of them. Okay, Detroit, it's very much

2575
02:12:41,680 --> 02:12:47,320
Speaker 2: a contender. Brings me to the aforementioned Minnesota Vikings. It's interesting.

2576
02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:48,960
Speaker 2: They have a similar core to the team to win

2577
02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:51,840
Speaker 2: fourteen to three last year, except they don't have Sam Darnold.

2578
02:12:53,000 --> 02:12:54,920
Speaker 2: It mean stuck in neutral for much of the season.

2579
02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:58,440
Speaker 2: Injuries are a part of it, and I like JJ

2580
02:12:58,560 --> 02:13:01,680
Speaker 2: McCarthy and I think in time they take him two

2581
02:13:01,760 --> 02:13:04,400
Speaker 2: three years, just like a David Bryce Young. I always

2582
02:13:04,400 --> 02:13:07,720
Speaker 2: believed in him. J J. McCarthy struggled and the defense

2583
02:13:07,800 --> 02:13:09,920
Speaker 2: seems to have lost a lot of its edge this season,

2584
02:13:11,680 --> 02:13:15,760
Speaker 2: and I don't know why. So I got to call

2585
02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:18,720
Speaker 2: him a pretender. Maybe they weren't as good as their

2586
02:13:18,760 --> 02:13:21,480
Speaker 2: fourteen and three record last year and now they don't

2587
02:13:21,520 --> 02:13:26,360
Speaker 2: have Sam Darnold, and I don't know if this is

2588
02:13:26,480 --> 02:13:29,440
Speaker 2: just a situation where that they're not a fourteen and

2589
02:13:29,480 --> 02:13:31,480
Speaker 2: three roster and then regresses to the mean i'd be

2590
02:13:32,120 --> 02:13:34,160
Speaker 2: And frankly, I don't think that not only a pretender.

2591
02:13:34,160 --> 02:13:36,120
Speaker 2: I don't think the Vikers will make the playoffs. I

2592
02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:38,680
Speaker 2: do like Kevin O'Connell a lot, though, and I think

2593
02:13:39,080 --> 02:13:42,880
Speaker 2: they're poised to be in the hunt, you know, for

2594
02:13:43,040 --> 02:13:44,640
Speaker 2: the next two or three years, if they get the

2595
02:13:44,720 --> 02:13:49,120
Speaker 2: quarterback situation. Look, I really love what they're doing in

2596
02:13:49,200 --> 02:13:52,280
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay, and I like Baker Mayfield. And despite the

2597
02:13:52,360 --> 02:13:54,200
Speaker 2: fact they've had a ton of injuries and they started

2598
02:13:54,200 --> 02:13:55,880
Speaker 2: six and two, they had a commanding lead in the

2599
02:13:55,960 --> 02:13:58,440
Speaker 2: NFC South, but they've come out of their buy with

2600
02:13:58,560 --> 02:14:00,240
Speaker 2: back to back tough losses and now they had the

2601
02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:04,160
Speaker 2: Los Angeles play the Rams Sunday. All Right, they got

2602
02:14:04,200 --> 02:14:06,879
Speaker 2: a half a game lead over Carolina. The defense is vulnerable,

2603
02:14:07,480 --> 02:14:10,520
Speaker 2: and Baker Mayfield is outstanding, but still a bit of

2604
02:14:10,520 --> 02:14:15,440
Speaker 2: a wildcard. Okay, the Tampa Bay Bucks have a somewhat

2605
02:14:15,480 --> 02:14:18,839
Speaker 2: I say this in air quotes, a somewhat generous schedule

2606
02:14:18,880 --> 02:14:21,720
Speaker 2: the rest of the way. I think they'll hold on

2607
02:14:21,800 --> 02:14:23,480
Speaker 2: to win the division, be the fifth year to row.

2608
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:27,720
Speaker 2: But when push comes to shove, they have some weak

2609
02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:31,840
Speaker 2: spots in the roster and their dynamic when they bring

2610
02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:33,680
Speaker 2: their best, but they don't always bring their best. I

2611
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:35,920
Speaker 2: have to put them in the pretender to not have

2612
02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:38,680
Speaker 2: to put Tampa Bay in the pretender category for one

2613
02:14:38,720 --> 02:14:41,480
Speaker 2: suple reason. They're not going to the Super Bowl. Okay,

2614
02:14:42,880 --> 02:14:45,200
Speaker 2: you're a contender. You have to be in the super

2615
02:14:45,240 --> 02:14:49,600
Speaker 2: Bowl to win it. That's my definition. So in all

2616
02:14:49,680 --> 02:14:52,760
Speaker 2: of these grades I'm giving, as it were, for lack

2617
02:14:52,800 --> 02:14:55,240
Speaker 2: of a better term, that's where I'm drawing the line

2618
02:14:55,280 --> 02:15:01,920
Speaker 2: contender versus pretender. All Right, Carolina, Man, they're five and

2619
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:04,960
Speaker 2: two in their last seven. They're catching a touchdown against

2620
02:15:04,960 --> 02:15:07,000
Speaker 2: the Niners Sunday night. That'd be a huge win on

2621
02:15:07,080 --> 02:15:10,680
Speaker 2: the road. They're five and two in their last seven.

2622
02:15:10,720 --> 02:15:13,960
Speaker 2: They got a shot at actually winning division and a wildcard.

2623
02:15:14,680 --> 02:15:17,000
Speaker 2: The problem is their offense goes on a walk about

2624
02:15:17,120 --> 02:15:20,560
Speaker 2: too often. I like Bryce Young, he's still nowhere near

2625
02:15:20,640 --> 02:15:25,160
Speaker 2: the ceiling. The defense has. You know, they have limited

2626
02:15:25,240 --> 02:15:28,960
Speaker 2: talent on defense, and basically they've won with a lesser

2627
02:15:29,000 --> 02:15:33,040
Speaker 2: than tough schedule. But you know, the Panthers, I think

2628
02:15:33,200 --> 02:15:37,680
Speaker 2: realize their fans realize this. They're making progress and they've

2629
02:15:38,000 --> 02:15:41,680
Speaker 2: you know, Dave Canalis who did Wonders with Baker Mayfield

2630
02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:45,680
Speaker 2: in Tampa Bay, and he did Wonders with Russell Wilson

2631
02:15:45,760 --> 02:15:47,440
Speaker 2: back in the day, and Seattle he's doing wonders with

2632
02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:51,240
Speaker 2: Bryce Young, So I think they can make a wildcard game.

2633
02:15:51,280 --> 02:15:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't even know if they win a wildcard game.

2634
02:15:53,680 --> 02:15:56,600
Speaker 2: But progress is progress, and you're seeing it in Carolina,

2635
02:15:56,600 --> 02:15:58,160
Speaker 2: and she's not gonna be this year. So Caroline's a

2636
02:15:58,200 --> 02:16:01,680
Speaker 2: pretender to Los Angeles Rams. I will put them in

2637
02:16:01,800 --> 02:16:05,480
Speaker 2: contender status. The Rams rank in the top six in

2638
02:16:05,600 --> 02:16:09,560
Speaker 2: terms of scoring, offense, and defense, and Matthew Stafford is

2639
02:16:09,640 --> 02:16:13,640
Speaker 2: by far having the best season of his career. Why

2640
02:16:15,560 --> 02:16:18,040
Speaker 2: I don't say contender with a great deal of confidence.

2641
02:16:18,840 --> 02:16:20,720
Speaker 2: You don't have Aaron Donald anymore. You don't have that

2642
02:16:20,840 --> 02:16:23,320
Speaker 2: one dominant presidence on defense. Yeah, they picked off Sam

2643
02:16:23,400 --> 02:16:28,240
Speaker 2: Donald fork times last week, and I have a trouble believing. Honestly,

2644
02:16:28,880 --> 02:16:31,800
Speaker 2: people think I'm a Stafford hater. Far from it, not

2645
02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:36,640
Speaker 2: even close. But I'll tell you this. I saw many

2646
02:16:36,720 --> 02:16:39,960
Speaker 2: years in Detroit where Stafford had talent around him. The

2647
02:16:40,040 --> 02:16:43,240
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen lines is one example. They were twelve and four.

2648
02:16:43,680 --> 02:16:46,520
Speaker 2: He had Calvin Johnson and Dominican Sue and the number

2649
02:16:46,560 --> 02:16:49,480
Speaker 2: three ranked defense. He went into Dallas in the playoffs

2650
02:16:49,600 --> 02:16:52,840
Speaker 2: and would have won the game. Stafford through turned the

2651
02:16:52,879 --> 02:16:56,800
Speaker 2: ball over twice in consecutive in consecutive possessions in the

2652
02:16:56,800 --> 02:16:58,400
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. I can't get that out of my mind.

2653
02:16:58,720 --> 02:17:00,800
Speaker 2: He was owing three in the playoffs against Detroit, lost

2654
02:17:00,800 --> 02:17:03,240
Speaker 2: so Seattle, New Orleans, and Dallas in er for seven

2655
02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:06,080
Speaker 2: in playoff contention games. And I know they call them

2656
02:17:06,160 --> 02:17:08,520
Speaker 2: King comeback, but a lot of times those comebacks were

2657
02:17:08,560 --> 02:17:10,800
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter after he'd done things to put

2658
02:17:10,840 --> 02:17:13,600
Speaker 2: his team into deficit. That's not happening this year. But

2659
02:17:13,720 --> 02:17:16,600
Speaker 2: I can't unsee that. Okay, and I'm not saying it's

2660
02:17:16,640 --> 02:17:20,400
Speaker 2: going to happen, but I can unsee that. The Rams reloaded.

2661
02:17:20,640 --> 02:17:23,200
Speaker 2: Sean mcvayh is the real deal. He's gonna be a

2662
02:17:23,200 --> 02:17:25,960
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame coach. The Rams have reloaded, and they've

2663
02:17:26,480 --> 02:17:29,560
Speaker 2: they've done it looking good. They dump They dumped a

2664
02:17:29,640 --> 02:17:33,120
Speaker 2: bunch of high paid veterans after they won the twenty

2665
02:17:33,240 --> 02:17:36,360
Speaker 2: twenty one Super Bowl. They're well coached, Matt Staffords having

2666
02:17:36,360 --> 02:17:38,800
Speaker 2: the year of his life, and I would say the

2667
02:17:38,920 --> 02:17:42,600
Speaker 2: defense is good enough to win a Super Bowl. They're

2668
02:17:42,640 --> 02:17:44,800
Speaker 2: not the Steve Curtin and Pittsburgh, they're not the eighty

2669
02:17:44,840 --> 02:17:48,400
Speaker 2: five Bears, they're not New England, but they're good enough

2670
02:17:48,440 --> 02:17:51,680
Speaker 2: to play complimentary football. We'll see where they go from here.

2671
02:17:52,800 --> 02:17:55,480
Speaker 2: I'll put them on contender. The Rams could get to

2672
02:17:55,560 --> 02:17:57,879
Speaker 2: the super Bowl, but they're not my prediction to get

2673
02:17:57,879 --> 02:18:01,720
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl. How about those Seattle Seahawks very

2674
02:18:01,800 --> 02:18:03,720
Speaker 2: much similar to the Rams. They rank on the top

2675
02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:08,600
Speaker 2: six on both sides of the ball. Sam Donald also

2676
02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:12,800
Speaker 2: a superb season throw out last week flush it and

2677
02:18:12,920 --> 02:18:17,920
Speaker 2: believe it or not. Before last week, the Seahawks were

2678
02:18:18,040 --> 02:18:20,840
Speaker 2: awesome on the road. And what I can't also get

2679
02:18:20,840 --> 02:18:22,120
Speaker 2: out of my mind is how the hell do you

2680
02:18:22,200 --> 02:18:26,080
Speaker 2: pick Sam Donald off four times and yet they're lining up.

2681
02:18:26,120 --> 02:18:28,800
Speaker 2: Granted it was a sixty yard field goal to win

2682
02:18:28,920 --> 02:18:30,640
Speaker 2: the game with a field goal. If you turn into

2683
02:18:30,760 --> 02:18:34,600
Speaker 2: NFL team over three times in a game, that team

2684
02:18:35,200 --> 02:18:38,360
Speaker 2: the chances for that team that turned the ball over

2685
02:18:38,440 --> 02:18:43,920
Speaker 2: three times to win the game is nine percent. All right? Well, Unfortunately,

2686
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:46,080
Speaker 2: now Sam Donald has turned the ball over nine times

2687
02:18:46,160 --> 02:18:51,040
Speaker 2: his last four games to a league high fourteen. And

2688
02:18:51,600 --> 02:18:54,880
Speaker 2: as much as I like the Seahawks, they've lost close

2689
02:18:54,959 --> 02:18:57,520
Speaker 2: games to the forty nine Ers, Buccaneers, and now Rams.

2690
02:18:58,240 --> 02:19:01,480
Speaker 2: That makes them a pretender. I'm not going to accuse

2691
02:19:01,520 --> 02:19:04,240
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold of fading when it matters most, but it

2692
02:19:04,320 --> 02:19:08,280
Speaker 2: happened last year in Minnesota, and I don't know if

2693
02:19:08,320 --> 02:19:11,800
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen this year. I like the Seahawks. I

2694
02:19:11,920 --> 02:19:15,160
Speaker 2: think they pull acts Tennessee Sunday as a double digit favorite.

2695
02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:19,720
Speaker 2: The question is do the Seahawks really have the talent

2696
02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:23,000
Speaker 2: to go through a postseason playoff gauntlet and actually get

2697
02:19:23,200 --> 02:19:26,120
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl. I have to call him pretender.

2698
02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:28,920
Speaker 2: Leaves us with one team left, the forty nine Ers.

2699
02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:32,760
Speaker 2: Despite being badly damaged by injuries, they're still seven to

2700
02:19:32,840 --> 02:19:34,920
Speaker 2: four in the rank decently on both sides of the ball.

2701
02:19:35,360 --> 02:19:38,680
Speaker 2: Brock Purty is back, Mac Jones did great. The injuries

2702
02:19:38,720 --> 02:19:40,760
Speaker 2: are going to be too hard to overcome. I think

2703
02:19:41,160 --> 02:19:43,160
Speaker 2: they haven't won a back to back game since September.

2704
02:19:43,200 --> 02:19:46,680
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the forty nin ers. No Fred Warner, right,

2705
02:19:47,240 --> 02:19:48,960
Speaker 2: you know what, I don't need to go through the litany.

2706
02:19:50,160 --> 02:19:52,720
Speaker 2: They have a manageable schedule that's going to get him

2707
02:19:52,720 --> 02:19:55,280
Speaker 2: to the playoffs. But I have to call him pretenders.

2708
02:19:56,080 --> 02:19:57,760
Speaker 2: I like brock Purty, but he's got to have a

2709
02:19:57,840 --> 02:20:00,640
Speaker 2: full surrounding cast, and the defensive suffer too much loss.

2710
02:20:00,879 --> 02:20:02,680
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2714
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2740
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Speaker 2: of a pretty interesting NFL and COLL season and now

2741
02:21:52,520 --> 02:21:55,640
Speaker 2: what's becoming and even more interesting. I'm talking about football

2742
02:21:56,160 --> 02:21:59,600
Speaker 2: NBA season with stories. Typically, Yeah, I do four hours

2743
02:21:59,600 --> 02:22:02,720
Speaker 2: every week. I used to do seven. I'm not even

2744
02:22:02,720 --> 02:22:04,440
Speaker 2: to even get to this stuff I want to get to.

2745
02:22:04,640 --> 02:22:08,760
Speaker 2: So it's a good slappy segment. I get it. We

2746
02:22:08,920 --> 02:22:10,600
Speaker 2: kind of have to bend that hour for that now,

2747
02:22:11,160 --> 02:22:12,760
Speaker 2: and I'm not ruling it out bring it out in

2748
02:22:12,800 --> 02:22:14,320
Speaker 2: the future, but I want to let it air out

2749
02:22:14,360 --> 02:22:17,400
Speaker 2: for a while. But I appreciate that people would ask

2750
02:22:17,480 --> 02:22:19,160
Speaker 2: and people remember because we had a lot of fun

2751
02:22:19,240 --> 02:22:22,039
Speaker 2: with that. But after doing about two hundred of them,

2752
02:22:22,480 --> 02:22:24,720
Speaker 2: it's not that they get redundant, it's just that, you know,

2753
02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:26,520
Speaker 2: we want to we want to keep things fresh. So

2754
02:22:26,600 --> 02:22:27,920
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not going to rule it out that

2755
02:22:28,000 --> 02:22:31,800
Speaker 2: i'd ever not that i'd ever bring it back. But

2756
02:22:32,120 --> 02:22:36,080
Speaker 2: but for now, in the you know, foreseeable future, what

2757
02:22:36,280 --> 02:22:39,600
Speaker 2: my name and brand Newfool are are going to sit

2758
02:22:40,480 --> 02:22:43,640
Speaker 2: on the on the sidelines for a bit. A little

2759
02:22:43,720 --> 02:22:46,600
Speaker 2: later in the show, I want to talk a little

2760
02:22:46,640 --> 02:22:51,560
Speaker 2: bit about the NFL playoff picture. I got to tell you,

2761
02:22:52,040 --> 02:22:55,600
Speaker 2: and I hate this saying, well, I didn't have them

2762
02:22:55,840 --> 02:23:00,800
Speaker 2: mingo KRD. Okay, Well, if you had the Patriots leading

2763
02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:05,200
Speaker 2: the division Thanksgiving on your Bengo card, or the Colt's

2764
02:23:05,280 --> 02:23:08,480
Speaker 2: leading the division on your Bingo card, and you had

2765
02:23:09,280 --> 02:23:14,520
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, Steelers, Texans on the outside looking in, not

2766
02:23:14,560 --> 02:23:18,119
Speaker 2: even in the playoffs as we head into Thanksgiving, sure,

2767
02:23:18,360 --> 02:23:22,600
Speaker 2: Dial one eight. None of us had that. None of

2768
02:23:22,720 --> 02:23:25,840
Speaker 2: us said that, And that's what makes makes this interesting.

2769
02:23:26,080 --> 02:23:27,880
Speaker 2: All right. By the way, it's not too soon to

2770
02:23:27,920 --> 02:23:31,080
Speaker 2: start looking ahead. Can you believe it? It looks like

2771
02:23:31,240 --> 02:23:33,400
Speaker 2: right now the season where to end the Titans will

2772
02:23:33,400 --> 02:23:36,040
Speaker 2: have the number one overall pick again, followed by the

2773
02:23:36,120 --> 02:23:39,199
Speaker 2: Jets no surprise, then the New York Giants and Narrators,

2774
02:23:40,680 --> 02:23:44,720
Speaker 2: followed by the Browns and Saints to any of the

2775
02:23:44,800 --> 02:23:47,400
Speaker 2: midnight callers if you're still listening, hope you are sure

2776
02:23:47,440 --> 02:23:50,920
Speaker 2: you are just an incredible job tonight in the range

2777
02:23:51,080 --> 02:23:57,080
Speaker 2: of quality, thoughtful opinions on the Draymon versus the fan

2778
02:23:57,200 --> 02:23:59,960
Speaker 2: situation when he he called the fan called a mangel

2779
02:24:00,080 --> 02:24:04,360
Speaker 2: Reese in an eight second span and Draymond had a

2780
02:24:04,480 --> 02:24:08,200
Speaker 2: mislay up four miss putbacks and four rebounds or me

2781
02:24:08,320 --> 02:24:10,920
Speaker 2: bounds as they were, and then the fan called him

2782
02:24:10,959 --> 02:24:12,920
Speaker 2: angel Reese and he got in his face and right.

2783
02:24:13,640 --> 02:24:18,640
Speaker 2: Good comments on that. Excellent comments on the Cowboys taking

2784
02:24:18,680 --> 02:24:20,280
Speaker 2: a knee with two minutes and forty seconds to go,

2785
02:24:20,320 --> 02:24:23,920
Speaker 2: where the disrespecting the Arraiders or respecting the Raiders? Excellent

2786
02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:26,520
Speaker 2: comments on that. Then, of course you Sanders will have

2787
02:24:26,600 --> 02:24:28,880
Speaker 2: some thoughts on that as we wrap up the show

2788
02:24:28,959 --> 02:24:30,440
Speaker 2: coming up, but you know we do cover it all

2789
02:24:30,600 --> 02:24:34,720
Speaker 2: on the show, including the other football spelled futbol. And oh,

2790
02:24:34,800 --> 02:24:39,280
Speaker 2: by the way, yes, we are two hundred days away

2791
02:24:39,400 --> 02:24:44,920
Speaker 2: from World Cup soccer here in North America. And on

2792
02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:48,240
Speaker 2: that note, it's time for the world or for the

2793
02:24:48,280 --> 02:24:48,879
Speaker 2: world of soccer.

2794
02:24:50,360 --> 02:25:04,160
Speaker 8: The greatest goals the thrilling finishes national drum him him,

2795
02:25:06,280 --> 02:25:10,039
Speaker 8: it's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

2796
02:25:09,920 --> 02:25:12,520
Speaker 6: We begin the world of soccer with the raising of

2797
02:25:12,680 --> 02:25:13,400
Speaker 6: a trophy.

2798
02:25:13,680 --> 02:25:18,600
Speaker 21: NWSL, Yes, the women's side of American soccer played their

2799
02:25:18,720 --> 02:25:22,720
Speaker 21: final on Saturday, November twenty second, between the Washington Spirit

2800
02:25:22,840 --> 02:25:26,600
Speaker 21: featuring Trinity Rodman of Team USA and Gotham FC that

2801
02:25:26,760 --> 02:25:29,360
Speaker 21: had Rose Levelle, also of the.

2802
02:25:29,440 --> 02:25:30,320
Speaker 6: US women's team.

2803
02:25:30,520 --> 02:25:32,680
Speaker 21: This is one of the reasons that NWSL is interesting.

2804
02:25:32,720 --> 02:25:34,400
Speaker 21: If you like to keep up with the United States

2805
02:25:34,440 --> 02:25:36,760
Speaker 21: women's team, a lot of their players can be found here.

2806
02:25:36,840 --> 02:25:41,040
Speaker 21: And indeed Gotham FC here the New York team on

2807
02:25:41,200 --> 02:25:46,080
Speaker 21: the verge of lifting their second championship in three seasons.

2808
02:25:46,520 --> 02:25:50,360
Speaker 21: And it was indeed the aforementioned Rose Levelle in front

2809
02:25:50,400 --> 02:25:53,320
Speaker 21: of a crowd of eighteen thousand at PayPal Park in

2810
02:25:53,640 --> 02:25:58,720
Speaker 21: San Jose, California, who hit the eightieth minute goal, breaking

2811
02:25:58,800 --> 02:26:03,039
Speaker 21: the deadlock and bringing home that trophy to Gotham FC.

2812
02:26:03,480 --> 02:26:05,560
Speaker 6: Trinity Robin was a big story.

2813
02:26:05,320 --> 02:26:06,360
Speaker 2: In this for the Spirit.

2814
02:26:06,560 --> 02:26:08,480
Speaker 21: She had been dealing with an MCL sprain and a

2815
02:26:08,560 --> 02:26:12,039
Speaker 21: right knee for about a month. Coaches before the game

2816
02:26:12,120 --> 02:26:14,600
Speaker 21: had said this would come down to the quote unquote

2817
02:26:14,920 --> 02:26:18,000
Speaker 21: main characters, and indeed that's really what we got here

2818
02:26:18,080 --> 02:26:19,800
Speaker 21: at the end of the day, so not a lot

2819
02:26:19,840 --> 02:26:22,960
Speaker 21: of scoring in spades, but either way, a hard fought,

2820
02:26:23,400 --> 02:26:27,400
Speaker 21: scrappy match. We await, of course the MLS Cup final

2821
02:26:27,560 --> 02:26:30,240
Speaker 21: participants that should be coming down here in just a

2822
02:26:30,320 --> 02:26:33,520
Speaker 21: few days. Now over to Europe where we've talked a

2823
02:26:33,560 --> 02:26:36,440
Speaker 21: lot about teams in the Premier League who have been

2824
02:26:36,480 --> 02:26:39,680
Speaker 21: in a spot of trouble and really had some woes

2825
02:26:39,720 --> 02:26:40,280
Speaker 21: about them.

2826
02:26:40,680 --> 02:26:43,280
Speaker 6: We haven't really talked much about Liverpool.

2827
02:26:42,920 --> 02:26:45,960
Speaker 21: Being one of those teams, the reigning champion of the

2828
02:26:46,000 --> 02:26:49,760
Speaker 21: Premier League who Arnslought's takeover of the club last year

2829
02:26:50,280 --> 02:26:52,920
Speaker 21: was something of a miracle, as I thought at the

2830
02:26:53,000 --> 02:26:56,320
Speaker 21: time it was the last hurrah of Liverpool's main core.

2831
02:26:56,400 --> 02:26:58,240
Speaker 21: They managed to keep a lot of those guys together.

2832
02:26:58,320 --> 02:27:01,080
Speaker 21: You know, you still see Mohammed Salah, Cody Gacbo going

2833
02:27:01,160 --> 02:27:06,000
Speaker 21: out there. But a stunning three nihl defeat at home

2834
02:27:06,560 --> 02:27:09,760
Speaker 21: to Nottingham Forest, who is not the Nottingham Forest of

2835
02:27:09,800 --> 02:27:14,160
Speaker 21: about a year or so ago, really just not has

2836
02:27:14,280 --> 02:27:18,760
Speaker 21: left Liverpool with six wins and six losses. So that

2837
02:27:18,920 --> 02:27:21,760
Speaker 21: is a five hundred record, but it's not the most

2838
02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:24,680
Speaker 21: respectable one, especially when you get points for draws and

2839
02:27:24,800 --> 02:27:29,840
Speaker 21: has left Liverpool somewhere around eleventh currently as of Saturday

2840
02:27:29,879 --> 02:27:35,160
Speaker 21: evening on the EPL table, a good eight points behind

2841
02:27:35,360 --> 02:27:39,280
Speaker 21: leader Arsenal, and has left a lot of questions to

2842
02:27:39,400 --> 02:27:42,560
Speaker 21: be answered in these stunned reactions because we're just not

2843
02:27:42,800 --> 02:27:46,199
Speaker 21: used to seeing this, and yet Liverpool has kind of had.

2844
02:27:46,080 --> 02:27:47,440
Speaker 6: This issue for a while.

2845
02:27:47,480 --> 02:27:50,000
Speaker 21: They had a three nil loss in the Carabell Cup

2846
02:27:50,080 --> 02:27:52,520
Speaker 21: to Crystal Palace. I think we had talked about that

2847
02:27:52,680 --> 02:27:54,640
Speaker 21: in a little bit of the past. Then they went

2848
02:27:54,680 --> 02:27:57,199
Speaker 21: on a bit of a tear. They got their Champions

2849
02:27:57,280 --> 02:27:59,840
Speaker 21: League win over Real Madrid. They came back and gave

2850
02:27:59,840 --> 02:28:02,600
Speaker 21: a three nail game to man City, but like, that's

2851
02:28:02,720 --> 02:28:03,320
Speaker 21: Man City.

2852
02:28:03,360 --> 02:28:05,000
Speaker 6: You kind of expect something like that.

2853
02:28:05,480 --> 02:28:08,720
Speaker 21: But Nottingham sits just a point or so above the

2854
02:28:08,800 --> 02:28:12,120
Speaker 21: relegation zone right now. This is not what we're used

2855
02:28:12,160 --> 02:28:16,520
Speaker 21: to seeing out of Liverpool and I don't know if

2856
02:28:16,760 --> 02:28:20,240
Speaker 21: part of this is maybe last year was it Maybe

2857
02:28:20,360 --> 02:28:22,560
Speaker 21: that was the height of what we would get with

2858
02:28:22,720 --> 02:28:23,760
Speaker 21: this Liverpool corp.

2859
02:28:24,080 --> 02:28:27,240
Speaker 6: I will say it's probably too early to panic.

2860
02:28:28,120 --> 02:28:33,440
Speaker 21: I know at least one veteran of Liverpool X midfielder

2861
02:28:34,000 --> 02:28:37,640
Speaker 21: Jamie Redknapp, did tell media that he kind of expected

2862
02:28:37,680 --> 02:28:40,680
Speaker 21: this to happen last year, and that right now is

2863
02:28:40,720 --> 02:28:43,760
Speaker 21: a time for patients, and that the sac of the

2864
02:28:43,879 --> 02:28:48,040
Speaker 21: manager panic is not warranted here. And of course, because

2865
02:28:48,080 --> 02:28:50,440
Speaker 21: when we like to listen to former players talk, do

2866
02:28:50,560 --> 02:28:51,119
Speaker 21: we agree with them?

2867
02:28:51,160 --> 02:28:53,080
Speaker 6: Do we not agree with them? I kind of agree

2868
02:28:53,120 --> 02:28:54,320
Speaker 6: with him here at this point.

2869
02:28:55,280 --> 02:29:00,280
Speaker 21: I know it's in favor across it seems Europe to

2870
02:29:00,320 --> 02:29:02,960
Speaker 21: set the manager when something's gone wrong. But I think

2871
02:29:03,480 --> 02:29:07,640
Speaker 21: Arnslought really has made a miracle work with what they've

2872
02:29:07,760 --> 02:29:10,959
Speaker 21: had there. This has been a rough start for Liverpool,

2873
02:29:11,080 --> 02:29:13,480
Speaker 21: to say the least. Now there is some context we

2874
02:29:13,520 --> 02:29:16,040
Speaker 21: should probably start here. First off, Nottingham for us, this

2875
02:29:16,120 --> 02:29:18,879
Speaker 21: is the second time they've come into anfield and whooped

2876
02:29:19,160 --> 02:29:20,000
Speaker 21: on Liverpool.

2877
02:29:20,879 --> 02:29:22,840
Speaker 6: It might just be they've got their number.

2878
02:29:23,480 --> 02:29:26,360
Speaker 21: I will say from watching some of the game itself,

2879
02:29:26,800 --> 02:29:30,360
Speaker 21: there was some movement that really confused Liverpool on the pitch.

2880
02:29:30,640 --> 02:29:34,800
Speaker 21: There was disorganized defending from the corners that really let

2881
02:29:35,600 --> 02:29:39,520
Speaker 21: a couple set pieces really tear Liverpool apart, which have

2882
02:29:39,640 --> 02:29:44,040
Speaker 21: become more and more of something that is becoming a

2883
02:29:44,200 --> 02:29:47,640
Speaker 21: real study in European soccer. We got to get to

2884
02:29:47,959 --> 02:29:52,200
Speaker 21: is set pieces, and but the tough thing for me

2885
02:29:52,400 --> 02:29:55,320
Speaker 21: is just a little bit of their sheer bad luck

2886
02:29:55,400 --> 02:29:57,800
Speaker 21: when it's come to it, six losses is really tough

2887
02:29:57,879 --> 02:30:00,800
Speaker 21: to swallow. Man City has four, but everyone else in

2888
02:30:00,920 --> 02:30:03,680
Speaker 21: front of Liverpool on the table right now only really

2889
02:30:03,800 --> 02:30:08,160
Speaker 21: has about three. They've now taken two losses at home

2890
02:30:08,840 --> 02:30:12,480
Speaker 21: that are is really tough to process, I think, and

2891
02:30:12,760 --> 02:30:15,520
Speaker 21: a lot of their wins have been very close Margins.

2892
02:30:15,600 --> 02:30:18,200
Speaker 21: This is not a Liverpool that's really running away with

2893
02:30:18,320 --> 02:30:18,960
Speaker 21: things right now.

2894
02:30:19,600 --> 02:30:20,000
Speaker 6: Either way.

2895
02:30:20,040 --> 02:30:23,439
Speaker 21: The calendar is about to change December and for Liverpool

2896
02:30:23,480 --> 02:30:25,840
Speaker 21: they're going to have to really dig deep, have some

2897
02:30:25,959 --> 02:30:28,640
Speaker 21: meetings and try to figure out what exactly is going wrong.

2898
02:30:28,800 --> 02:30:32,360
Speaker 21: Because while Arnslott I think is safer right now come

2899
02:30:32,400 --> 02:30:34,960
Speaker 21: to calendar change to twenty twenty six, that might change

2900
02:30:35,120 --> 02:30:38,000
Speaker 21: very quickly. This is a nasty business that's going to

2901
02:30:38,040 --> 02:30:38,480
Speaker 21: do it for us.

2902
02:30:38,560 --> 02:30:38,840
Speaker 2: Bernie.

2903
02:30:38,920 --> 02:30:41,880
Speaker 21: Next time on the World of Soccer, MLS announced a

2904
02:30:42,120 --> 02:30:45,480
Speaker 21: change that is really, really, really significant. We're going to

2905
02:30:45,520 --> 02:30:48,600
Speaker 21: dive deep into that next time you have with the

2906
02:30:48,640 --> 02:30:49,280
Speaker 21: World of Soccer.

2907
02:30:49,400 --> 02:30:53,280
Speaker 2: We began this feature during World Cup twenty twenty two.

2908
02:30:53,360 --> 02:30:56,440
Speaker 2: It's started late that year in November. If you recall

2909
02:30:56,480 --> 02:31:00,360
Speaker 2: the day after Thanksgiving, all the anticipation US versus England,

2910
02:31:00,400 --> 02:31:03,480
Speaker 2: there was a tie and same old, same old. Well,

2911
02:31:03,600 --> 02:31:05,600
Speaker 2: the World Cup is going to be played in North

2912
02:31:05,640 --> 02:31:08,160
Speaker 2: American soil this year at games in Los Angeles as well.

2913
02:31:09,200 --> 02:31:12,600
Speaker 2: Two hundred days away from today the World Cup starts.

2914
02:31:13,080 --> 02:31:15,560
Speaker 2: We covered all on The Bernie Freddle Show, including the

2915
02:31:15,600 --> 02:31:20,240
Speaker 2: football spelled futbl coming up. We wrap up the show

2916
02:31:21,080 --> 02:31:26,039
Speaker 2: of some final thoughts. As Shudorf Sanders is now only

2917
02:31:26,200 --> 02:31:30,560
Speaker 2: about ten hours and twenty two minutes away for making

2918
02:31:30,600 --> 02:31:35,920
Speaker 2: his debut as a starter, I'll share some quick thoughts.

2919
02:31:36,280 --> 02:31:38,560
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fraddle. We are company line from the Las

2920
02:31:38,640 --> 02:31:41,760
Speaker 2: Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening

2921
02:31:41,760 --> 02:31:42,720
Speaker 2: to the Bernie Fraddle Show.

2922
02:31:43,200 --> 02:31:46,040
Speaker 8: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2923
02:31:46,120 --> 02:31:49,480
Speaker 8: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

2924
02:31:49,600 --> 02:31:53,680
Speaker 8: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

2925
02:31:53,840 --> 02:31:54,440
Speaker 8: listen live.

2926
02:32:00,000 --> 02:32:02,039
Speaker 2: All right, we are wrapping it up on The Bernie

2927
02:32:02,080 --> 02:32:06,959
Speaker 2: Frattles Show, and I want to thank my producers Mark

2928
02:32:07,040 --> 02:32:10,600
Speaker 2: and Brandon for other efforts tonight. Really appreciate all the

2929
02:32:10,720 --> 02:32:15,199
Speaker 2: hard work, tight hitting, all the brakes, everything good, keeping

2930
02:32:15,240 --> 02:32:18,080
Speaker 2: the plane in the air and keeping us on the air.

2931
02:32:19,120 --> 02:32:21,120
Speaker 2: For another segment of The Bernie Frattle Show, and yes

2932
02:32:21,200 --> 02:32:24,120
Speaker 2: I will be back next week, already looking forward to it.

2933
02:32:28,000 --> 02:32:30,120
Speaker 2: I said throughout the show tonight, this is a very

2934
02:32:30,240 --> 02:32:36,960
Speaker 2: unique NFL season, and it's not trite phraseology. I don't

2935
02:32:36,959 --> 02:32:39,520
Speaker 2: say things for effect. Case in point, you had three

2936
02:32:39,560 --> 02:32:43,720
Speaker 2: AFC teams that entered this season as Juggernaut's favorites, behemoths

2937
02:32:43,800 --> 02:32:47,320
Speaker 2: right elite quarterbacks. They're going to rule the roost instead.

2938
02:32:47,840 --> 02:32:49,520
Speaker 2: And of course the three teams I'm referring to it

2939
02:32:49,560 --> 02:32:53,520
Speaker 2: I've talked a lot about tonight, the Chiefs, Ravens, and Bills. Well,

2940
02:32:54,280 --> 02:32:57,080
Speaker 2: they're all on a very similar trajectory in the sense

2941
02:32:57,160 --> 02:32:59,520
Speaker 2: that you can't count them up, but then they're kind

2942
02:32:59,560 --> 02:33:03,080
Speaker 2: of fighting for their lives. And it only further emphasizes

2943
02:33:03,120 --> 02:33:06,160
Speaker 2: how unique in Chiatock the season has been so far.

2944
02:33:07,120 --> 02:33:09,959
Speaker 2: Chiefs the defending AFC champ they lost last week twenty

2945
02:33:10,000 --> 02:33:12,720
Speaker 2: two to nineteen. Is the clock in zero in Denver.

2946
02:33:13,800 --> 02:33:16,879
Speaker 2: They are now five and five, the Broncos are nine

2947
02:33:16,920 --> 02:33:19,440
Speaker 2: and two. They leave the AFC West. The Chiefs still

2948
02:33:19,440 --> 02:33:21,840
Speaker 2: have a fifty seven percent chance to make the postseason,

2949
02:33:22,840 --> 02:33:25,560
Speaker 2: but and I will never call this a must win

2950
02:33:25,680 --> 02:33:28,520
Speaker 2: game on Sunday, because it doesn't work that way. There's

2951
02:33:28,520 --> 02:33:31,560
Speaker 2: stiff many more games after Sunday, and oh, by the way,

2952
02:33:33,280 --> 02:33:35,040
Speaker 2: thirty one of the thirty two teams will lose the

2953
02:33:35,080 --> 02:33:37,240
Speaker 2: game they must win, So never make that as your

2954
02:33:37,280 --> 02:33:41,440
Speaker 2: motivation to bet somebody. I don't think the Chiefs are

2955
02:33:41,480 --> 02:33:42,880
Speaker 2: going to win the division. That's going to end the

2956
02:33:42,959 --> 02:33:46,920
Speaker 2: nine year streak. Mahlomes has already taken the blame. They'll

2957
02:33:46,920 --> 02:33:48,520
Speaker 2: cut them out in the playoffs and I think they'll

2958
02:33:48,520 --> 02:33:51,280
Speaker 2: be there. But you didn't have them five and five.

2959
02:33:52,720 --> 02:33:55,760
Speaker 2: Baltimore is also five and five. They have won four straight.

2960
02:33:55,840 --> 02:33:59,840
Speaker 2: They got Lamar Jackson back. They beat the Browns last

2961
02:33:59,840 --> 02:34:03,160
Speaker 2: week twenty three to sixteen, but very unimpressive. They're only

2962
02:34:03,240 --> 02:34:07,720
Speaker 2: one game back in Pittsburgh in the ANFC North Soul.

2963
02:34:08,840 --> 02:34:13,720
Speaker 2: We will see where Baltimore finishes. Buffalo was feeling a

2964
02:34:13,720 --> 02:34:15,840
Speaker 2: little bit better last Sunday at seven and three. They

2965
02:34:15,959 --> 02:34:19,320
Speaker 2: beat Tampa Bay forty four to thirty two, and I

2966
02:34:19,400 --> 02:34:22,560
Speaker 2: think their fans will relieved for a minute. Josh Allen

2967
02:34:22,600 --> 02:34:25,760
Speaker 2: accounted for six touchdowns. They got Gabe Davis wide receiver back,

2968
02:34:26,280 --> 02:34:28,720
Speaker 2: and then boom they run into Houston on Thursday night.

2969
02:34:28,800 --> 02:34:31,360
Speaker 2: You saw what happened. That was a very iffy showing.

2970
02:34:32,120 --> 02:34:34,120
Speaker 2: And they've had more than one if he showing. And

2971
02:34:35,440 --> 02:34:40,240
Speaker 2: interestingly enough, they are not winning their division. New England

2972
02:34:40,360 --> 02:34:45,840
Speaker 2: is so Buffalo fans are not feeling like they haven't

2973
02:34:45,879 --> 02:34:51,520
Speaker 2: made just yet. It's an interesting season, not the least

2974
02:34:51,560 --> 02:34:54,800
Speaker 2: of which we are just hours away from Shudor Sanders

2975
02:34:54,959 --> 02:34:59,879
Speaker 2: making his NFL debut as a starter in the NFL

2976
02:35:00,680 --> 02:35:04,959
Speaker 2: department redundancy department. He got in for six possessions last week.

2977
02:35:05,480 --> 02:35:08,040
Speaker 2: And I know everybody wants to make all kinds of excuses.

2978
02:35:08,240 --> 02:35:11,920
Speaker 2: It is what it is, Okay, no one cares you

2979
02:35:12,040 --> 02:35:17,360
Speaker 2: got your shot or hard his first first, by the way,

2980
02:35:17,959 --> 02:35:21,240
Speaker 2: just relaxed. I'm not burying shoot or Sanders here at all,

2981
02:35:22,240 --> 02:35:25,360
Speaker 2: hear me out. But we looked to last week. His

2982
02:35:25,520 --> 02:35:29,360
Speaker 2: first possession, sack, fumble, punt, second possession through a pick,

2983
02:35:29,720 --> 02:35:33,640
Speaker 2: third possession, one first down, then sacked in punt, secon

2984
02:35:33,680 --> 02:35:37,240
Speaker 2: fourth possession, got a first down, then punted, fifth possession

2985
02:35:37,280 --> 02:35:40,480
Speaker 2: at a grounding penalty and they punted then on the

2986
02:35:41,920 --> 02:35:45,480
Speaker 2: sixth possession, two first downs and a turnover on downs. Okay,

2987
02:35:45,959 --> 02:35:47,720
Speaker 2: not the end of the world. It's not easy for

2988
02:35:47,800 --> 02:35:51,080
Speaker 2: a fifth round quarterback, and that's what he is. In

2989
02:35:51,160 --> 02:35:54,800
Speaker 2: the history of the National Football League, there have been

2990
02:35:55,200 --> 02:35:58,640
Speaker 2: fifty six occasions where a fifth round quarterback has gotten

2991
02:35:58,680 --> 02:36:00,760
Speaker 2: a chance to start in the n FILL. All of

2992
02:36:00,879 --> 02:36:06,480
Speaker 2: those fifty six games, they've won nineteen average passing per

2993
02:36:06,600 --> 02:36:09,440
Speaker 2: game one hundred and thirty five yards, thirty three touchdown,

2994
02:36:09,600 --> 02:36:12,360
Speaker 2: seventy two interceptions, with a passer rating of fifty four

2995
02:36:12,400 --> 02:36:16,000
Speaker 2: point two. Well, by the way, now, cam Ward is

2996
02:36:16,080 --> 02:36:18,440
Speaker 2: not a fifth round quarterback. But a few weeks back,

2997
02:36:18,480 --> 02:36:22,400
Speaker 2: the Raiders who who Shoodor will start against on Sunday?

2998
02:36:22,680 --> 02:36:26,080
Speaker 2: In a few hours here in Las Vegas, they hailed

2999
02:36:26,160 --> 02:36:28,720
Speaker 2: cam Ward out two one hundred and sixty yards passing.

3000
02:36:29,360 --> 02:36:33,199
Speaker 2: He had a QB rating of twelve and a passer

3001
02:36:33,280 --> 02:36:38,600
Speaker 2: rating of eighty one in a loss, and Shoodoor against

3002
02:36:38,600 --> 02:36:41,080
Speaker 2: the Raiders Sunday. Here's what's interesting and again why this

3003
02:36:41,240 --> 02:36:45,119
Speaker 2: makes this a unique season. Remember, Shudor kind of started

3004
02:36:45,160 --> 02:36:49,480
Speaker 2: out as someone who's seen as a player of privilege

3005
02:36:49,520 --> 02:36:52,520
Speaker 2: and overhyped product of the fact that he's Deon sanders Son.

3006
02:36:53,720 --> 02:36:56,360
Speaker 2: You know, had a situation where he told everybody he's

3007
02:36:56,360 --> 02:36:59,360
Speaker 2: going to be a first round pick and frankly he

3008
02:36:59,440 --> 02:37:01,440
Speaker 2: didn't look like first round pick last week, didn't look

3009
02:37:01,440 --> 02:37:04,119
Speaker 2: like an NFL quarterback last week. You can talk about

3010
02:37:04,160 --> 02:37:07,840
Speaker 2: the situation that he didn't have first team wraps, but

3011
02:37:07,879 --> 02:37:09,720
Speaker 2: he still holds the ball too long, he's in process

3012
02:37:09,760 --> 02:37:11,640
Speaker 2: of what he's seeing, runs out of the back of

3013
02:37:11,680 --> 02:37:14,199
Speaker 2: the pocket when he's pressured. Those things are on display.

3014
02:37:14,879 --> 02:37:18,120
Speaker 2: But I got to say it, Chador's got supporters and things.

3015
02:37:18,200 --> 02:37:20,520
Speaker 2: Man morphed and I had one of the more interesting

3016
02:37:20,640 --> 02:37:24,920
Speaker 2: midnight Hour segments. We took probably fifteen sixteen calls. It's

3017
02:37:25,000 --> 02:37:28,280
Speaker 2: per usual lot of support for Shudor, and I get

3018
02:37:28,360 --> 02:37:32,400
Speaker 2: it because it right before our eyes. Schudor has morphed

3019
02:37:32,840 --> 02:37:37,360
Speaker 2: from this overhyped overdog into an unlikely underdog who now

3020
02:37:37,520 --> 02:37:42,600
Speaker 2: seemingly has the opportunity of a lifetime right before his eyes.

3021
02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:47,440
Speaker 2: And it's interesting because I think he Shodor is in

3022
02:37:47,520 --> 02:37:49,920
Speaker 2: a win win situation. First of all, I actually think

3023
02:37:49,959 --> 02:37:52,400
Speaker 2: the Browns are gonna win. They're going to beat the

3024
02:37:52,480 --> 02:37:56,800
Speaker 2: Raiders Sunday. The Browns have a superb defensive front seven,

3025
02:37:57,080 --> 02:38:00,360
Speaker 2: which is going to wreak havoc on Gino's Smith and

3026
02:38:00,400 --> 02:38:04,240
Speaker 2: Company and the Raiders and Asking genty and all that

3027
02:38:04,360 --> 02:38:07,520
Speaker 2: kind of st. They had trouble moving the ball against

3028
02:38:07,560 --> 02:38:11,720
Speaker 2: the Cowboys last week. They don't move the ball against anybody.

3029
02:38:12,320 --> 02:38:17,080
Speaker 2: The Raiders have really struggled offensively and not so great

3030
02:38:17,120 --> 02:38:20,840
Speaker 2: defensively either, So I actually think Cleveland's the better football team.

3031
02:38:21,240 --> 02:38:23,680
Speaker 2: I expect Cleveland to actually win the game. Now that

3032
02:38:23,760 --> 02:38:29,240
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean Shedor is gonna light it up. I

3033
02:38:29,320 --> 02:38:32,040
Speaker 2: expected to hand the ball to Quinn Shawn Judkins a lot,

3034
02:38:32,520 --> 02:38:34,720
Speaker 2: but I also expect the Raiders to pack the box

3035
02:38:36,000 --> 02:38:39,720
Speaker 2: and make it difficult for Shoodoor Sanders. And this is

3036
02:38:39,800 --> 02:38:43,039
Speaker 2: what now I think makes him an underdog. I really

3037
02:38:43,080 --> 02:38:46,600
Speaker 2: think I'm seeing that because the truth of the matter is,

3038
02:38:47,400 --> 02:38:50,640
Speaker 2: and I talked to plenty of NFL personnel on scouts,

3039
02:38:52,480 --> 02:38:55,560
Speaker 2: no one I know said he was going to be

3040
02:38:55,600 --> 02:38:58,680
Speaker 2: a first rounder. In fact, the only people who seemed

3041
02:38:59,000 --> 02:39:03,080
Speaker 2: confident that my Shootoor Sanders would be a top ten

3042
02:39:03,160 --> 02:39:07,320
Speaker 2: selection in the draft word Welsh Sanders and his agent,

3043
02:39:07,400 --> 02:39:10,720
Speaker 2: his PR team and team Sanders, his dad, maybe his brothers,

3044
02:39:10,760 --> 02:39:13,760
Speaker 2: I don't know some of his friends. He had opportunities

3045
02:39:13,800 --> 02:39:16,840
Speaker 2: at the Shrine Bowl and the Combine to compete and

3046
02:39:17,000 --> 02:39:18,920
Speaker 2: to prove he was ready to lead an NFL team

3047
02:39:19,480 --> 02:39:21,800
Speaker 2: he opted against both. He'd said he claimed his college

3048
02:39:21,879 --> 02:39:25,199
Speaker 2: tape was all NFL team needed to see. It wasn't,

3049
02:39:25,520 --> 02:39:28,160
Speaker 2: and frankly, his approach to the pre draft process should

3050
02:39:28,200 --> 02:39:30,440
Speaker 2: be a lesson of what not to do for future quarterbacks.

3051
02:39:30,640 --> 02:39:32,960
Speaker 2: You don't simply declare yourself something you are and hope

3052
02:39:33,000 --> 02:39:35,360
Speaker 2: nobody checks you on it. The reality here is that

3053
02:39:35,480 --> 02:39:39,440
Speaker 2: Sanders is a good football player, a prospect and as

3054
02:39:39,480 --> 02:39:43,440
Speaker 2: a chance to turn into a functional starter someday as

3055
02:39:43,480 --> 02:39:45,560
Speaker 2: long as he's got talent around him and a good

3056
02:39:45,600 --> 02:39:49,680
Speaker 2: offensive line. Okay, he's not a first rounder. He didn't

3057
02:39:49,680 --> 02:39:52,320
Speaker 2: have the arm talent, the size, the pocket presence, the

3058
02:39:52,440 --> 02:39:56,400
Speaker 2: pocket processing, and he kind of put off people with

3059
02:39:56,480 --> 02:39:59,600
Speaker 2: his overconfidence and maybe driving a Bentley and Warner rolex.

3060
02:39:59,640 --> 02:40:02,920
Speaker 2: But some it's a different day. This is where the

3061
02:40:03,040 --> 02:40:07,760
Speaker 2: perception versus reality meets head on on the field in

3062
02:40:07,879 --> 02:40:10,760
Speaker 2: a game. And then don't tell me, show me situation,

3063
02:40:11,160 --> 02:40:15,400
Speaker 2: and this starts to work in Shador sanders favor. Okay,

3064
02:40:16,200 --> 02:40:19,240
Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown's if your name's not Bernie Costar is a

3065
02:40:19,280 --> 02:40:21,920
Speaker 2: place where quarterbacks go to die. I don't mean die literally.

3066
02:40:22,520 --> 02:40:25,120
Speaker 2: Even Baker Mayfield took over a team one and thirty

3067
02:40:25,160 --> 02:40:27,440
Speaker 2: one got out to the playoffs. He's not there anymore.

3068
02:40:28,480 --> 02:40:30,520
Speaker 2: We're going to find out. Maybe we're NFL scouts a

3069
02:40:30,560 --> 02:40:32,959
Speaker 2: little hard on him. Maybe he's not a first rounder,

3070
02:40:32,959 --> 02:40:34,600
Speaker 2: but maybe he should have got a second round. Grave

3071
02:40:35,760 --> 02:40:37,800
Speaker 2: people really wanted to send a draft day message about

3072
02:40:37,840 --> 02:40:40,680
Speaker 2: him and humility. What for you're trying to win football games.

3073
02:40:41,040 --> 02:40:43,480
Speaker 2: Maybe the Browns coaching staff hasn't invested that much in

3074
02:40:43,600 --> 02:40:46,760
Speaker 2: him because maybe they really didn't want him. But tomorrow, today,

3075
02:40:46,879 --> 02:40:50,199
Speaker 2: excuse me, it's Shadoor Sanders Day, to prove him all wrong.

3076
02:40:50,840 --> 02:40:54,400
Speaker 2: He has got the opportunity of a lifetime, a perfect

3077
02:40:54,480 --> 02:40:58,720
Speaker 2: opportunity now to show the world what he's been telling

3078
02:40:58,760 --> 02:41:01,720
Speaker 2: people he really was and is. And it's only one game.

3079
02:41:01,959 --> 02:41:04,560
Speaker 2: He'll get other opportunities as well. But we're all going

3080
02:41:04,600 --> 02:41:06,440
Speaker 2: to be watching. I can't wait, and I know you

3081
02:41:06,600 --> 02:41:08,800
Speaker 2: the same. It's going to do for the Bernie Frattle Show.

3082
02:41:08,959 --> 02:41:10,720
Speaker 2: And yes, I will be back next week at this

3083
02:41:10,800 --> 02:41:13,280
Speaker 2: time eleven PM with a jam packed show and lots

3084
02:41:13,360 --> 02:41:15,160
Speaker 2: to talk about. Keep it locked up next to the

3085
02:41:15,200 --> 02:41:16,480
Speaker 2: great Andy Furman. Fox