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Speaker 1: back to episode number ninety one of the met Stub podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by the seven Line, going over the Washington nash

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Speaker 1: series midweek series against a very bad team and shocker,

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Speaker 1: the Mets took the series. Now, there was a little

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Speaker 1: bit to talk about here, and this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a big mail bag episode as well, because there wasn't

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Speaker 1: what happened in these games. And that's fine. We're still

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Speaker 1: gonna go over all three. We're still gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: all our thoughts and opinions about what happened against the

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Speaker 1: Nationals in these threes games. But we're gonna have some

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Speaker 1: without further ado. Let's bring in the man, James Ciano.

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Speaker 1: How you doing doing well. It's been a minute since

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Speaker 1: we've spoke. I was out in Arizona doing some stuff

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Speaker 1: with a King of Juco five points videos, another Mets

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Speaker 1: fan swinging some bats. I got a wicked blister on

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Speaker 1: it was a good week.

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Speaker 2: Though, I saw you hear the ball in ninety two

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was an hour I was. I was

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Speaker 1: impressed by that. That is faster than Wan SODA's average exivillo.

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Speaker 1: So if you just take it in a vacuum, I

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Speaker 1: hit the ball harder than Want Soda.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't say literally. And I think if we

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Speaker 2: were to set a line for you going into this week,

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Speaker 2: your max exit villa been like eighty six and a

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Speaker 2: half maybe eighty seven. You smashed it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I was kind of comfortably sitting at like

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Speaker 1: if I ever thought that I could play major league baseball,

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Speaker 1: well David Fletcher can, so can I. I'm saying that

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Speaker 1: David Fletcher can do it. I can do it. He

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Speaker 2: Not true. You can't play short style.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, he can play the I can hit like

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Speaker 1: David Fletcher. How about that?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's not that hard. I can also have

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Speaker 1: Well, anyway, what was your week? Like, how you doing, dude?

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Speaker 2: I mean, last time I talked to you, guys, I

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Speaker 2: I moved into a new apartment over here in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 2: So if you guys watched on YouTube, I have a window.

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Speaker 2: It's the first window I've ever had in New York,

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Speaker 2: and I'm pretty jacked up about it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. Yeah, you are the man of having different backgrounds,

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Speaker 2: But I think quite the opposite. I think we'll be

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Speaker 1: on Game one, though, Let's talk about the Mets playing

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but it has been a

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Speaker 2: I like how you came into this episode with no

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Speaker 2: third thing you've talked about, not the New York metsas

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Speaker 2: so opposite every other episode of this show we've ever done.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I was in Arizona. I wasn't as in depth

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Speaker 1: let's be honest Carlos carrasco here. That was the story

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Jeff Vintial made a great play. Keith was

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Speaker 1: It was like a clean relay and it wasn't nice

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Speaker 1: the way that Keith was reacting. But that's what we

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Speaker 2: Like we had seven hard hit balls against Patrick Corbyn

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the rally rat, as it has now been coined.

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Speaker 1: We had Jeff McNeil classic hit, smoked it to first

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Speaker 2: I think rob Manforn has to be a really, really

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Speaker 2: just like he's playing straight up pepper with major league pitching.

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Speaker 2: He's dominating. But also with that like, his swing decisions

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Speaker 2: Like nineteen seventy four. Baseball came right in time for

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Speaker 2: the rest of Jeff McNeil's prime, and I couldn't be happier.

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Speaker 1: Yeah No, when Jeff's playing like this, this team is motoring,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like going to the boblem with the other

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Speaker 2: for McCann. Happy to see that he's not lifeless.

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Speaker 2: that's not a crazy thing. From Rob Pearsall on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Former Mets amrized Raither. Edwin Diaz has now spent more

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Speaker 1: That feels weird and wrong, but yeah, bizarre. It makes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the trait happened like in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: It is a really long time, so really really long time.

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Speaker 1: Game one, the Mets get the win. Now onto Game two,

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Speaker 1: we had what we are now coining poop fest. We've

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Speaker 2: think Hera's fugazy, that's just not who he is. And

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Speaker 2: this kind of reminds me, not to this extent, I

433
00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,440
Speaker 2: don't want scaring any Mets fans, but like just to

434
00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,200
Speaker 2: the way Taiwan Walker started last year, where every single

435
00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,440
Speaker 2: start for the first two months of the year, like

436
00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,240
Speaker 2: he was doing things well and all things he was

437
00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:16,800
Speaker 2: doing bad was getting covered up, and it's like, oh

438
00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,040
Speaker 2: my gosh, this guy's a two five yr right with

439
00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,520
Speaker 2: an amazing signing by the Mets. We have a due

440
00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,400
Speaker 2: as it wasn't really true and Tyler McGill is better

441
00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,360
Speaker 2: than Taiwan Walker, but he's still a guy who throws

442
00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,120
Speaker 2: sixty percent fastballs with two secondaries that they're good, but

443
00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,920
Speaker 2: neither have made like that real jump jump. Ye had

444
00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,440
Speaker 2: to turn him into like an actual major league gaze.

445
00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,040
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you saw our good friend

446
00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,360
Speaker 1: Todd Zeel postgame was talking about Tyler R. McGill was saying,

447
00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,760
Speaker 1: thinks he was tipping to his pitches. He didn't say

448
00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,240
Speaker 1: exactly what he saw that could have been tipping a

449
00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,480
Speaker 1: good but he goes the way the Nationals were laying

450
00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,960
Speaker 1: off the change up, the way that they were just

451
00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,920
Speaker 1: so ready for the fastball. Maybe he was tipping his pitches.

452
00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,000
Speaker 1: Into Todd Zeal's credit, you know, it was a gamer.

453
00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,000
Speaker 1: He had some pretty long, lengthy MLB career, so this

454
00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,480
Speaker 1: is something that I could definitely see him doing. He

455
00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,720
Speaker 1: was saying the same thing about Jacob deGrom when he

456
00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,240
Speaker 1: had that like super run rough start all those years

457
00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,280
Speaker 1: ago where Terry Collins put the arm on his shoulder,

458
00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,440
Speaker 1: Everything's gonna be okay. Kind of had that same moment

459
00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,879
Speaker 1: again a little bit. And I know everyone loves to

460
00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,399
Speaker 1: draw the comparisons between Jacob de Gramm and Tyler McGill

461
00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,040
Speaker 1: and me, and you both know it's crazy. It's a

462
00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,800
Speaker 1: little insane, but it is kind of nuts that like

463
00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,879
Speaker 1: same thing, he had another rough start, could have been

464
00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,639
Speaker 1: tipping pitches just like de gram was. Like the parallels

465
00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,560
Speaker 1: are so strangely similar.

466
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Speaker 2: Especially because when you kind of tear apart McGill's game

467
00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:27,919
Speaker 2: and the pitch selection of the Nationals, there's a part

468
00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,800
Speaker 2: of that it does make sense. Like Tyler McGill threw

469
00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,800
Speaker 2: kind of like low for his season average with fifty

470
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,760
Speaker 2: five percent fastballs. Nationals swung in half of them, the

471
00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,440
Speaker 2: back on the ball for a lot of them, including

472
00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,200
Speaker 2: just foul balls, and all the balls put them play,

473
00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,639
Speaker 2: like I mentioned, and there were no swings and misses

474
00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,560
Speaker 2: and that change up with all and only five total

475
00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,480
Speaker 2: swings on his change up in general, and he threw

476
00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,800
Speaker 2: almost thirty of them, and if you look at the

477
00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,600
Speaker 2: pitch location of those change ups, it wasn't like he

478
00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,040
Speaker 2: was missing a spots. A lot of them kind of

479
00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,680
Speaker 2: dropped in for called strikes and seemed like the Nationals

480
00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,600
Speaker 2: were kind of sitting back waiting for the fastball. And

481
00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,399
Speaker 2: then there were a few changes to jump on that

482
00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,520
Speaker 2: did happen, but also with that fastball, like Tyler McGill

483
00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:00,760
Speaker 2: just kind of mist the lot of the black that

484
00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,240
Speaker 2: we've seen him get for the first couple starts of

485
00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,399
Speaker 2: the year. Like I said, you don't really get any

486
00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,159
Speaker 2: Offugh's on it, whether the Nationals new was coming or not.

487
00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,760
Speaker 2: He now just sits between ninety four and ninety seven,

488
00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,800
Speaker 2: ninety six right, and ninety six and ninety nine like

489
00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,439
Speaker 2: we saw at the beginning of the year that was

490
00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,000
Speaker 2: never gonna last. It almost kind of makes me think

491
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,720
Speaker 2: also that the Mets pushed him back a day with

492
00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,600
Speaker 2: the extra off days from last week because they maybe

493
00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,840
Speaker 2: they can see he's kind of gas, which almost gives

494
00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,320
Speaker 2: me more fear than than any other results have actually

495
00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,000
Speaker 2: happened with him. The fact that the Mets in turnally

496
00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,080
Speaker 2: thought he already needed an extra day of rest on

497
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Speaker 2: May twelfth. It's kind of like everything that we said

498
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,320
Speaker 2: preseason about McGill is more true now. It was for

499
00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,919
Speaker 2: the last month like we had that great It was

500
00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,800
Speaker 2: kind of like like when you're dating somebody new, when

501
00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,680
Speaker 2: you have that like month where it's the honeymoon period,

502
00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,960
Speaker 2: where like you have an idea about somebody, then you

503
00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,359
Speaker 2: have a month, you're like, this is a great person

504
00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,240
Speaker 2: on earth. I want to be with them fourteen hours

505
00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,080
Speaker 2: a day, six days a week. And then after a

506
00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,399
Speaker 2: month you're like, Okay, well now I understand exactly what

507
00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,679
Speaker 2: this is. That was a lot of fun. We all

508
00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,840
Speaker 2: have to understand put their expectations back to where they

509
00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,480
Speaker 2: probably were, which were optimistic and still very good. I

510
00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,639
Speaker 2: don't think this one star kills his rest season projection

511
00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,040
Speaker 2: as much as I think it will actually bring Mets

512
00:18:59,119 --> 00:18:59,720
Speaker 2: fans back.

513
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Speaker 1: To the app Yeah, not that it matters, but like

514
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,800
Speaker 1: in the Cy Young Award, you know, odds he had

515
00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,680
Speaker 1: like top ten odds. That's just that's what I'm saying.

516
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,280
Speaker 1: Like the hype was hype, but me and you both

517
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,880
Speaker 1: know he's going to be a very good pitcher still

518
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,560
Speaker 1: on this team, of course, just not one of the

519
00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,360
Speaker 1: best pictures in the league, like he might have been

520
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,440
Speaker 1: getting some crazy talk about or that people were even theorizing,

521
00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,280
Speaker 1: which we know that just wasn't true. Also super strange

522
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 1: in this game that there was no mound visits when

523
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,640
Speaker 1: he was struggling, They just kind of let him go.

524
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, because what are you gonna tell him?

525
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 2: Like I seem to really be hitting it.

526
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:31,840
Speaker 1: You just got you gotta get it with the guy,

527
00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 1: Gotta tell him something like maybe maybe that happened, Like

528
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,720
Speaker 1: it was like you're gonna call himunt visit in the

529
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 1: first inning.

530
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 2: For Tyler McGill, this point, like that's almost more damaging.

531
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Speaker 2: I don't know the Mets. This Mets team and doesn't

532
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,159
Speaker 2: seem to be a team that does stuff like that.

533
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,439
Speaker 2: Tyler McGill doesn't seem to be a guy who not

534
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,639
Speaker 2: that E wouldn't be a guy responds to that be

535
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,200
Speaker 2: He doesn't seem like he seems like a guy who'd

536
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 2: be like I'm fine, Like I'm fine. This was like

537
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:51,960
Speaker 2: there's so many things in this game that were like

538
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 2: normal for Tyler McGill. Was just they weren't offering any

539
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 2: changeups and they weren't swinging missing basically at all. Which

540
00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's more about the Nationals, about

541
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 2: how mcguill are about signs or whatever, but it's just

542
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, this happens like he throws a lot

543
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 2: of fastballs. The second year in the league, Tom McGill

544
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 2: is still throwing under one hundred and fifty innings above

545
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,959
Speaker 2: a ball in total, Like let's just take it back.

546
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 2: He's always a guy who's gonna have an right close

547
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 2: to the four than three. Just watch him and enjoy.

548
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, definitely, I don't. I don't think it's anything

549
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 1: to freak out about. And we'll talk about it a

550
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,439
Speaker 1: little bit more later too. But the more frustrating part

551
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 1: I think about this game than mcguill just getting shelled

552
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,360
Speaker 1: was that he touched Aaron Sanchez hard in the first

553
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 1: inning and then the bats just kind of disappeared.

554
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 2: They could totally disappear, and it was like really annoying

555
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,439
Speaker 2: because it was similar to Patrick Corbyn. We were just

556
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 2: like smoking the ball. And that's the eleven hard hit

557
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 2: balls in five innings against Aaron Sanchez, more than two

558
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 2: per inning, Like it's ridiculous. And there was a point

559
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,679
Speaker 2: after the first inning of this game where he retired

560
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 2: eleven in a row, and then there were three total

561
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 2: innings where there wasn't a hit besides an infield single

562
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 2: I think by Jeff McNeil. Yeah, maybe four total innings

563
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 2: and he only had one strikeouts this the whole time,

564
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 2: wasn't missing any bats, Like it's just I don't know,

565
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 2: Met's just had some bad juju these first two games,

566
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,199
Speaker 2: Nimo had three hits. He was like really smoking the

567
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 2: ball on door, hit the ball hard. That was just

568
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 2: one of those games.

569
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Speaker 1: It's baseball, Susan has baseball. John shouts in the gosk though,

570
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 1: who made his appearance for the Mets his yearly appearance.

571
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 1: That feels like or one or two appearances that makes

572
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: a year. And he gave him noharn runs. Again, He's

573
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 1: gone what about six innings and hasn't given up an

574
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 1: earned run. Earned him a scent down because you know

575
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: he's basically useless the rest of the week, but thanks

576
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 1: for pitching Steven.

577
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 2: You give him the go stic shit all the time.

578
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 2: But he's like a fine guy to having the back

579
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 2: end of before the man roster. He can just come

580
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 2: into a game where you're starting pitcher, gave up eight

581
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 2: runs and save your bullpen for the games when it

582
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 2: actually matters and doesn't really matter. I also shout out

583
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 2: of Trevor Williams because these two guys combined for no

584
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 2: earn runs for six and two thirds innings. I kind

585
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 2: of had that like half a moment before the ninth

586
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 2: ending of this game, after the Rangers had just won

587
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 2: a big game, where I was like, maybe the Mets'll

588
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: come back again. Yeah, like the National's bullpen sucks, Like

589
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 2: why not us? Well they got those two hits to

590
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 2: start the ninth inning. You're like, man on I think

591
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 2: even Gary goes here, we go again. It's not over yet.

592
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: And it's like, man, we are so as a Mets

593
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: fan base. We love the highs and we hate the lows,

594
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: like we are such a rollercoaster of emotions, and only

595
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: I think Mets fans would buy into two leadoff hits

596
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: down eight to three in the ninth inning, like we

597
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,239
Speaker 2: got a chance, We're back, We're back, We got this

598
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: right where we wanted him. Literally, I was talking on

599
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 2: the phone with my dad and I was riding my

600
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: bike to a bar, but actually watched the Ranger game.

601
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 2: I had to get multiple screens and want people to

602
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 2: watch both and don't want to stay home. And uh

603
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: did Micguil just giving up the eighth run When I

604
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 2: was on the phone with him and he was like

605
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 2: he was like, telp me at bad by a bat.

606
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 2: I was like, Saren Sanchez because we're five more runs

607
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 2: against Aaron Sanchez? Who cares? We didn't we could have,

608
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 2: but it happens he lost a game. Poop fest.

609
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, poop fest. Good for one of those series, but

610
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: only one. Only good for one. Now Game three, this

611
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: got the series on the line. There's a chance here

612
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 1: to lose a series. We know the Mets didn't, and

613
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 1: it was really it was nice to see that we

614
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: got out early again. Marky cheerios. Mark Canna showing he

615
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: deserves a little more play because he just keeps getting hits.

616
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: Granted they're mostly singles, but he just keeps getting hits

617
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 1: and his at bats are always so good. Yeah.

618
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 2: Man, I've said some things about Canna not hitting towards

619
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: the top of the other and I think that is

620
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: true sometimes. I think we saw there was a situation

621
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Speaker 2: Monday's game. I believe he came up in like the

622
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: fourth of the fifth or two on two out and

623
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: just didn't have a very good at bat. One of

624
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 2: the few was out all year, but this game hitting

625
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: six Jonah Jonah doone is Jonah doone? Jonadan jonah Don,

626
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 2: I don't know jonah Don. I'm gonna say Jonah Doon

627
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: because it's just kind of more fun to say. Joan

628
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: don't just walk the world walk three guys to make

629
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Speaker 2: Puck bring cannon up in the base of little two options.

630
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: They got a nice single, got two runs. Is literally

631
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: the only two runs the Mets would need the entire game.

632
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marky Cheerios. We call him that for a reason.

633
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: He's reliable, He's dependable, He's fibrous. He's fibrous. He's got

634
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: no flaired there's no flavor. But he will be there

635
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: for you, and he will make your heart stronger. That's

636
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: what Markey Cheerio's does for you.

637
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: Also shout out this first inning, Brandon Drulie loff walk

638
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: extended his on base streak to twenty three games.

639
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: Can we uh, where's the check book at? Can we?

640
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: Can we start writing checks for this guy. I don't

641
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: want him to ever leave the Mets.

642
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't. He also had another walk, en

643
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 2: another hitting this game. I'm based three times back to

644
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 2: back games out of the leadoff spots. Just leap all players.

645
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: It's just so good. He's just really, so so good.

646
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Speaker 1: It's crazy that he's our fourth outfielder. Fuck you, I

647
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: had to throw that in there.

648
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 2: Often is just kind of annoyingly went quiet again for

649
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: the same game and rot after the first inning Tolmas

650
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 2: neither had the ribby in the fourth. Markanda hit a

651
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 2: nice insurance home run the ninth, and then it was

652
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 2: just kind of like lulled down. It's even just like

653
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: a two and a half hour game, like everything was

654
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 2: really chilling, And a lot of that had to do

655
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 2: with the fact that Taiwan Walker just completely put the

656
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: Nationals asleep with splitters, two seamers, curveballs. It was just

657
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 2: throwing a lot of junk at them, getting the ball

658
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: on the ground and not letting anyone do damage.

659
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was very, very efficient. He also made a

660
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: great play in the field, tagging out Juan Soto and

661
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: kind of doing the little little baby ai to him.

662
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: He treated him like he was Tyron Lu and just

663
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: kind of tagged him out and stood over him and

664
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: Soda kind of give him a little push, and Taiwan's like, dude,

665
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,239
Speaker 1: have you seen the size of me, Like I'm an

666
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: actual like tank. You cannot move me. It's not possible.

667
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 2: Well, we should expand on that, because that was one

668
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: of the craziest double players I've ever seen a Major

669
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: League baseball game. Wan Soda was on second base with

670
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: nobody out after a leadoff double and there was a

671
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 2: ball hit the third base. Luis Kiame, Luis ki Orme,

672
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: the absolute gem that he is. King Louis here May

673
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: saw out the corner of his eyes, so that was

674
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: gonna try and break the third on the throw gear.

675
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 2: Mey just threw the ball behind him, got caught a

676
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 2: little rundown. That's when Taiwan tagged at their base. As

677
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: it was happening, Josh Bell was breaking for second, threw

678
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: the ball a second miss throw into the outfield. Lucky

679
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 2: starting Marte, how he rose was losing his mind over this.

680
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: Marte backed up the rundown incredibly. He kind of picked

681
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: the ball like six eight feet behind the dirt and

682
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 2: through a dart to third base where three guys were

683
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: standing but not actually on it, and Francisco Lindor just

684
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: slightly caught it and tagged Josh Bell out for your

685
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 2: casual like five four, one, throw one in there, one yeah,

686
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: nine six double player, Yeah, just how we draw it up.

687
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: That's that's the most routine double play that the Mets

688
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: have ever turned. Again, everything was just kind of going

689
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: their way, and while the offense wasn't fantastic, it was

690
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: good enough. Not much else to say here the Mets

691
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: did their thing. Edwin Diaz gave a home run in

692
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: the ninth to one, so it because, okay, whatever, he's

693
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: just like one of the best hitters in this game

694
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: that exists in all of Major League Baseball, and we

695
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: win another series. The Mets continue to roll, continue to

696
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 1: be in first place, continue to show that they are

697
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in all of baseball. I

698
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: don't care if you're beating the Nationals. I don't care

699
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: if you're beating the Marlin zone care if you're beating anybody.

700
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: You have to beat the bad teams. Right now, the

701
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: Mets are beating everybody.

702
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 2: Haven't been the Morlals yet. I haven't played them one time.

703
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 2: But can I drop a funny and interesting one? Soa

704
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: stat on you?

705
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, drop it on me.

706
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: Wan So though in the game against Tyler McGill hit

707
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: the seventh home run of the season. That was his

708
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: first non solo home run of the year. God, how

709
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 2: crazy is that?

710
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 1: God that that the team's so messed up just hit

711
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: wan So to lead off? Why did they even bother

712
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: to hit? Like?

713
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: Says point yeah right, Like you get more at bats

714
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 2: to the season than once Anyway, I'll see he's asking why

715
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 2: that guy stuck. I don't even like seeing.

716
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: Him no, And that pretty much wraps up the series.

717
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: There's not a lot to talk about, like we said,

718
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: but we did go to Twitter and we asked you

719
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: guys for some male bad questions. We want to answer

720
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: the questions from the viewers at home because you guys

721
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: do such a great job supporting us. Our last episode

722
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: really killed. It was one of our better episodes that

723
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: we've ever had performance wise. So let's go ahead, crawl

724
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: through Twitter, see what we got and start answering some

725
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: questions because I saw a few and there were some

726
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: good ones. And you know what, I'm doing a little

727
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: nepotism here. I'm starting off with a question from my dad,

728
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: and my dad asked, does King Louie deserve more? Starts

729
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: at third with ESCO bombs and a bit of a slump.

730
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: Shout out to my dad for using all the nicknames.

731
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: Love that for the culture. Does he though? Does King

732
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: Louie deserve a little bit more playing time? I'm starting

733
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: to believe he does. He's just like a one. He's

734
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: a good baseball player. He's a very good baseball player

735
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: by no means will you ever be like he is

736
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 1: the best at his position? Never will you hype him

737
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: up and be like, Wow, can't wait to go to

738
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: the game and watch Luiski or may play. But for

739
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: the way this mess team plays and for the value

740
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: with his glove he gets on base, he definitely deserves

741
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more playing time, kind of playing into

742
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: that role we spoke about last year where it's like

743
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: he will end up getting probably four INJERD at bats

744
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: this year just because he could play third, short, second

745
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: base and you can give guys days off and just

746
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: plug him right in.

747
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: I kind of want to tie that question into another

748
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: question that was asked by It's Nico yt and it

749
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: was who do you think is the best fit for

750
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: the DH spot and who needs more playing time? Because

751
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: I think just the way that Luiski Army has hit

752
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: enough this year, plus the unbelievable glove he brings at

753
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: three different in field position, like, there's no reason he

754
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 2: shouldn't be in the lineup more. Kind of similar to

755
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: how Santiago Espianal has just like scrabbed one of the

756
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: Blue Jays starting roles so far as the season. Big

757
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: credit to you for that one. You ru on Santiago

758
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: Espinal far before anybody else in the hole.

759
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: Like, this guy's really good.

760
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: Similarly that Spinal Giomy is a guy who's just like

761
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: kind of hitting two fifty with a seven to fifty

762
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: ops right now, which you wouldn't know it, but that's

763
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: like significantly high in the league average at both spots.

764
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: He's getting on base the ridiculous clip, He's seeing tons

765
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: of pitches, and again he plays slick defense at every

766
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: single infield position. He's probably the best best defender almost

767
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 2: on the infield, like for Sicklendor is very good. Of

768
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: course he has a little bit of the throw has

769
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: been a little bit weird this year. But Luis Germy

770
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: just does things at daily base in the field that

771
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: there's no reason not to have him in the lineup

772
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: when he is hitting better than the league average. Like

773
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: this just sounds to me like a guy who's good

774
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: at baseball.

775
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a good ballplayer, and especially like and how

776
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: good his glove is. You can give a guy like

777
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Francisco Lindor a day off and put him at DH.

778
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: You can give Jeff mcfeel a second base a day

779
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: off or put him in the outfield. Even if you

780
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: want to give Cano or Marte or even Nemo a

781
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: day off, Like gives this team so much more flexibility

782
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: that he can play all through those infield positions and

783
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: give someone a rest and keep that bat still in

784
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: the line because his glove is that good. And then

785
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: on terms of the DH, if let's just say Luis

786
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: Giormey is not playing, I mean it's got to be JD. Right.

787
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well that was kind of where I was going

788
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: with this. We're at the point now in the season

789
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: where the thing I said in the offseason was true

790
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: that I did like all these acquisitions between while the

791
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: Westcabar and Marcana starling Marte, but none of them are

792
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: really the super sustainable hitters. I think black people made

793
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: them out to me. Kena is the most sustainable because

794
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: he sees the most pitches and he gets on bas

795
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: significant amount. But he's the only guy out of that trio.

796
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: Even before the year, I pegged for like a rock

797
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: solid WRC plus at one hundred and fifteen, like Marte

798
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: and Escobar. Now we've seen each of them go through

799
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: these insane cold stretches where it becomes a situation where

800
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: they're not hitting the ball that hard. Or for that

801
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: much power, and they're not getting on base when they're cold,

802
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: and that's something that when it's happening, like you might

803
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: as well just put JD. Davis in the lineup, put

804
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: Gyormay in the field, because Atleastormy is giving you a

805
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: very solid skill set. And JD. Davis absolutely hits the

806
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: ball really hard as much as possible. He's one of

807
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: the highest heart hit rates in the LEAs one of

808
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: the highest expected robb was in the league. Like he's

809
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: just roping the ball.

810
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: Have you been seeing that graphic where it's like the

811
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: X will button, it's Mike Trout, JD. Davis, jord On Alvarez.

812
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: It is like someone doesn't fit in this list.

813
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: But like, no matter what happens with JD. Davis, as

814
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: long as we've had him, even before we got him

815
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: and he was still an astro, like a weird quadruple

816
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: A prospect, he just hits the ball hard. Like he

817
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: just hits the ball hard, very consistently. And that's a

818
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: guy who I'd want in the line up more often

819
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: than not. And I think at the end of the day,

820
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: if luiski Orme is playing the field and you're kind

821
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: of talking about comparing with the westby JD. Davis, Like,

822
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: as far as the hitting projection goes purely hitting projection,

823
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: the only part of their game that we're looking at. JD.

824
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: Davis will likely be a more valuable hitter after a

825
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: full season than while the Westcobar. Its just it's just

826
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: a fact.

827
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're playing Eduardo at third or j D

828
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: at third.

829
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: Obviously was definitely the better player for sure. And I

830
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: won't say it's not a still a good player, he's

831
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: just more than like basically a one for thirty slump

832
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: right now. Similar we saw h sarving Martell dou earlier.

833
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: Similarly what we saw people on to do two weeks ago,

834
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: similar with the HAF Francisco Indor was last week. Like

835
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: this happens baseball players. But the only difference is that Escobar,

836
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: when he's not going right, he's not seeing that many

837
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: pitches and he's not really getting on base like we

838
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: saw him do a lot at the beginning of the year.

839
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: But also Castion mats fans about that he did the

840
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: exact thing last year. It's really weird that like taking

841
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: walked in April, but I wish we would just do

842
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: it every money.

843
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: As soon as May comes around, he's like, I'm done,

844
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: be impatient. I'm swinging.

845
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: It's warm, I'm trying to get it. Take some hacks.

846
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 2: But like that downside that is that you get these

847
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: stretches like now where it looks like he can't buy

848
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: a base hit. His average has sunk like one hundred

849
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: and fifty points in the last two weeks on base

850
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: percenta just crathering slungon percent, just crathering. But that's just

851
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: the Gbar skill set. He is a guy who's more

852
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: of like, at this point in his career, your fourth

853
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: or fifth in fielder rather than your second or third.

854
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's pretty fair. It's it's sad for

855
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: me to say because I love me some Eduardo Escobombs.

856
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: For sure.

857
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: It's a great guy having the team, for sure. I

858
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: loved Cabar is a major league ball player. That was

859
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: the best. That was That's why they got him. He's

860
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: a professional. He's just not like a guy who you

861
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: should hang your hat on your five feather.

862
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: Every night for sure. For sure, I'm definitely behind that.

863
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: And then we also should probably talk about Dom Smith

864
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: twsince we talking about the DH conversation. A bunch of people,

865
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, chimed In, Jay dog Jisi, a bunch of

866
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: people were asking about Dom, what the deal is with him?

867
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 1: What's the future looking like for Dom? Because he had

868
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: that four hit game, got a couple of hits a

869
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: little bit after that. He's kind of done nothing before

870
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: that and after, and the serious question comes up as

871
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: to be, what's the deal with Dom Smith? What do

872
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: we do? Because there are guys in the miners who

873
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: are raking and it's not like Dom swinging a good

874
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: enough bat to keep him on the roster right now,

875
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: and I think he still has options. It's weird because

876
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: of course we picked Dom over Cano. But again, that's

877
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: that's a huge w that was Dom did his job.

878
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,719
Speaker 1: I'll always remember that for Dom Smith, that he got

879
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: Robinson Cano cut. But I mean, like Daniel paulk is

880
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: hitting the ball well, Nick Plumbers hitting the ball well.

881
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: I'll talk about those guys in a second. But there's

882
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: just no way that that's actually like, there's no way

883
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: that decision wasn't made before that day. Like there's no

884
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: way that the Mets brass were sitting in a room

885
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: and was like Dom Smith got four hits, that did

886
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: it for us like they you know, going in, what

887
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: the hell is gonna happen? This isn't a team run

888
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: by imbeciles anymore. We have Data Journal reported on Monday

889
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: that we have like fifty four data analysts now working

890
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: on Staffe, the highest numbers in base. But we have

891
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,239
Speaker 2: Steve Cohens has been pulling guys from point seventy two.

892
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: You know what you do if you're a high level

893
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: analyst for point seventy two. You don't work on whims.

894
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: You work on data, You work on numbers, you work

895
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: on certainties.

896
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: You try and tell me step Cones didn't get fourteen

897
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: million dollars off whim.

898
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: No, Steve coins did, didn't walk into fourteen billion dollars.

899
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 2: He got it very acutely and accurately and concisely. But

900
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: that's neither here nor there. But with that, I think

901
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: it is it is going to start to bear the

902
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 2: question of how valuable Domsmith is to this team, especially

903
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: when there are a lot of other guys on the

904
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: roster who can play first base. They don't play first base. Well,

905
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: there's no one on the roster, including Pelazzo, was even

906
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: within like within within eyeshot of doms Smith's glove of

907
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: first base, But all the other smart teams in baseball

908
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: show us that gloves at first base aren't really that valuable.

909
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: The two teams that you should be looking at the

910
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: most who are talking about first base and not giving

911
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: a shit about the defense there the Tampa Bay Rays

912
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 1: and the Milwaukee Brewers. The Brewers played Jed Jerko there

913
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: years ago, they'd played well, now Peverson, they have Rowdy

914
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: who doesn't play good defense. They had edwardo Escob playing

915
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: first base last year just to get his bat in

916
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: the lineup. And the Rays g Manchoy Mike Mike Brosso

917
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: who's now also on the Brewers, which is funny YONDI

918
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: Diaz like first base defense is irrelevant. It doesn't matter

919
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: as much as Keith n Ed is like, just tell

920
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: you it does.

921
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: No Last year, the Jodgers for a lot of games

922
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 2: through Albert Pooholes out there, old forty six year old Aberpooholes. Yeah,

923
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: the Red Sox withrown Kyle Schwarber out there like it

924
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: really it doesn't seem to matter that much, not that

925
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: I know that for a fact. That doesn't seem like

926
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: based on the smart teams in baseball, that really does.

927
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: So with that, like, if that's Tom Smith's best skill,

928
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: it's if Paul Deyong got sent down to the minor

929
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: leagues because he couldn't hit and was playing good defensive shortstop. Yea,

930
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: there's really no logical reason why Tom Smith can't go

931
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: down to the minor leagues. Maybe just get some if

932
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: nothing else, get some confidence back. Just rope the ball.

933
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: C J.

934
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: Abrams got sent down after a rough first month in

935
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: the Bigs. Hit two home runs his first day down there,

936
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: Like some of these guys go down there. Joe Withdell

937
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: has like a fifty percent bower right right now, triple

938
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: A over the last week. Maybe just got to like

939
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: get a grip sometimes to go down there. Maybe that's

940
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: just I don't know whatever. I'm not gonna say it,

941
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: but there are two guys the Mets having triple A

942
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: who play positions that can help them kind of not

943
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: really great fielders, but they're smoking the ball and they're

944
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: Daniel Poka and Nick Plumber. Both see a lot of pitches,

945
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: both draw walks, and both have hit tanks at triple

946
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: A level like and have shown good eggs of losses

947
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: while they do it. Especially Polca has been the stack

948
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: cast King over the course of his career. Yeah, some

949
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: of the hardest that balls in the stack cast era

950
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: somehow Daniel Polkins. So at this point the Mests just

951
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: kind of need another bat on the bench that they

952
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: can trust lading games when they're mixing and matching, and

953
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: why not gave one of those two shots, specially if

954
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: Dom has an option.

955
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: I think a big sign too is that Mark Canna

956
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: buck told him to start taking reps at first base

957
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: get ready, So it seems like Marcanna might be stepping

958
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: in it as possibly this backup first base role now.

959
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: Also JD can do it in a pinch, and why

960
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: the west Barker are doing in a pinch? Chef McNeil

961
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: has said before he can do it in a pinch.

962
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: Chef to do it all exactly. But that's the essence

963
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: of modern first base, Like you can anyone can play

964
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: first base. And if Pete was still like a morbid

965
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: disaster on defense, like Dom would have more of a role.

966
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: But he's just now he's just fine, Like he's just

967
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: not that good. Some Mass fans tell he was great.

968
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: Some Mess fans will tell you he was awful. But

969
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: he's just he's just below average, and that's comfortable when

970
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: he has one of the best bats in the league.

971
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think probably this is this next weekend series,

972
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: his next home stand. It's probably big for Dom to

973
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: figure out what's really gonna go on. I don't think

974
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: they're gonna send him down like on Saturday, like if

975
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: he has a stretch, it would be Monday or whenever

976
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: the home stand does end. Something to keep an eye

977
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: on though. For sure Tom Smith not particularly playing well.

978
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: No, and those two guys in Triple A are actually hitting.

979
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 2: So that if those two, if the Triple A roster stunk,

980
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: if the Mets didn't get that random depth and they

981
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 2: still had khlul as their best major league depth who

982
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: has been atrocious this year. So whatever the opposite of

983
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: a pat in the back is, I'm gonna give that

984
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: to myself because that Thoughtklarlye could actually a major league difference

985
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 2: maker this year wrong. I guess me. I'm not saying

986
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: he still can't get it, but it doesn't look like

987
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: he's gonna happ the imdiate future. But the fact that

988
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: Mets have two guys who are like quasi major league

989
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: bats who are sitting there in Triple A means that

990
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: it probably be worth getting one of them a shot

991
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: as the team desperately looks for power.

992
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's definitely let's go to Richie Dordas, who's always

993
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: been a big fan of the podcast. What are your

994
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: honest thoughts on Francisco Lindoor. It's crazy to me how

995
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: his numbers are still above average while going through a slump.

996
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a simple answer. It's because he's good.

997
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: That's what happens. When good players go through slumps, their

998
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: numbers are still good. Franciscal Indoor, granted, has been going

999
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: through a little bit longer of a slump than we

1000
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: would like, and he has I feel like bit a

1001
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: little less patient to play. I don't have the exact

1002
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: numbers to.

1003
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: Prove that his carrier's up.

1004
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just saying, it feels like he's not

1005
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: walking as much as striking out more.

1006
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 2: He is walking a little bit more of the streker

1007
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: rate has also got.

1008
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: Up with it, So like it's gonna happen, it's a

1009
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: long season. Like you said, his numbers are still good

1010
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: despite going through this slump. You got you know, you've

1011
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: listened to us for a long time. Now we're not

1012
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: worried about Francisco inndoor now and probably not ever.

1013
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: Francisco Indoor so far this season has one hundred and

1014
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: fifteen WRC plus, which is basically his career average. Yeah

1015
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 2: if Francisco lindoor. Because tackcast has that cool little table

1016
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: the bottom of their player pages where if a player

1017
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: played in this ballpark, how many home runs would they have? Yeah?

1018
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: They any home runs we played in Yankee Stadium. So

1019
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: like I mean, as Chris Wood were mentioned last week,

1020
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: I mean's basically Williams poy that there, and I kind

1021
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: of liked all the Yankee people were leaning into that.

1022
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 2: But Paciscal Indoor is just being a little bit better

1023
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: than league average. When they started that being really hot

1024
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: and now he's really cold. I'm sure in two weeks

1025
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: he'll be really hot, and maybe after that he'll be

1026
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: really cold. Like in a perfect world, I would like who,

1027
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: like who's going to be one of our better players,

1028
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 2: to be a little more consistent his skills, said, I

1029
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: always thought was consistent over time. But you don't watch

1030
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: a guy every day, you don't really realize it. Some

1031
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: kid was in my DMS today, Josh Flower is just

1032
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: a listener. He gets in my DM sometimes just because

1033
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: I'll anwer questions if anyone wants to DM me something.

1034
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna answer all of your questions. There's some

1035
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: people who sent me fantacy baseball questions like fourteen times

1036
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: a day. I'm not gonna answer all of them. But

1037
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: you want to have a conversation, I'm down to talk

1038
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: to anybody out there. But he said, I wish them

1039
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: door was more like Pete where he was like a

1040
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: steady and consistent player all the time. And I was like,

1041
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: Pete was one for thirty last week, Like every hitter

1042
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: in baseball does this, but like even the best hitters

1043
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: of all time do this, Like we've seen Mike Track

1044
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: go through slumps of times you goor Don Alvarez had

1045
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: like a two thirty average for the first three weeks

1046
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: of the season, Like this is what hitters do. It's

1047
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: not easy to hit. You have to do it every

1048
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 2: single day, like sometimes it gets mononymous. Cisldre has also

1049
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: still been hitting the ball hard. He's not like barreling

1050
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: it up a time, but he's still making solid contact.

1051
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: He's still striking out less than league average, even though

1052
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: it's more than he struck out last year early in

1053
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: the season, like, he's still fine, he's a good baseball player.

1054
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: Mets fans might have been expecting the best for him, though,

1055
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: originally from the trade after seeing those twenty eighteen twenty

1056
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: nineteen monster years in Cleveland where he had like forty

1057
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: home runs and thirty doubles. But there's also a different

1058
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: run environment in baseball, Like there's less than fifty hitters

1059
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: in the whole league right now with a OPS over

1060
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: eight hundred, the stat that you like to say fourteen

1061
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 2: times an episode.

1062
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

1063
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: There's not a line anymore. Like his WRC plus being

1064
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,479
Speaker 2: over one hundred, same as OPS plus with a seven thirty.

1065
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: The OPS means that we kind of have to recalibrate

1066
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: what we think about with OPS, especially the way baseball

1067
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: is being played right now.

1068
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially since they change the baseball's in the league

1069
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: average OPS now as well, like six sixty or six seventies.

1070
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: I think it's like six seventy two. Yeah, it's disgustingly low. Thanks, Rob,

1071
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: appreciate you. This is so much more fun to watch

1072
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: singles than home runs. So don't you guys all agree.

1073
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: I mean definitely all the owners do.

1074
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we get to pay the pitters a lot less,

1075
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: and we know the pitchers aren't gonna be thrown as

1076
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: much as they usually are.

1077
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: So's no one's making no one no one's making my

1078
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: in arbitration.

1079
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: Well that's a conspiracy theory. We can talk about another episode.

1080
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm gonna let you pick one of the Twitter

1081
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: questions here to answer.

1082
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I already talked about the McGill stuff, so I

1083
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 2: think most of those listeners questions got their stuff's answered

1084
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 2: just that game segment. Oh, this one I like from

1085
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: Ethan Mets News thirty. That was interesting question. That would

1086
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: be a good one to close out after we just

1087
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: talked about games and actual production for the first forty

1088
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: five minutes of this What met player? Do you want

1089
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: to be extended the most? So, like, if we could

1090
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: only pick one of these guys, who would you want

1091
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: it to be the most? I think this is actually

1092
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: be a very interesting discussion because these three guys are

1093
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: all really good at baseball, Brandon Nimmo, Edward Diaz, and

1094
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: Chris Bass and among other impending for agents of course,

1095
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: but I think these are the three most marquee ones

1096
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: and I would like to hear your answer if not

1097
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: saying that an actuality, This is just purely hypothetical for

1098
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: the Metstup podcast. If there was only one you could extend,

1099
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: and there was, this is the one guy you would

1100
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: want to extend the most. Which of those three would

1101
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: you pick?

1102
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: Brandon Nimmo. Brandon Nemo's my choice. His most kind of

1103
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: leaning there too, his ability to get on base. He's

1104
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: also playing really really good center field. Again, like he's

1105
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: just probably a really good center fielder. Like I think

1106
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: the conversation ends there is like he's a really good

1107
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: center fielder. One of the top in the game. Obviously

1108
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: is no Mike Trout, but if you're talking about the

1109
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: best center fielders in baseball, I think Brandon Nimo legitimately

1110
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: has to be in the conversation. With his ability to

1111
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: get on base, he doesn't strike out, he's hitting for

1112
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: more power now, and he plays a great center field.

1113
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: That's a franchise player right there. Lock him up. The

1114
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: first round pick that we talked about all those years

1115
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: ago when he first got picked. Will finally start to

1116
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: see it really truly come to fruition. And as much

1117
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: as I like Bassett and as much I like Diaz,

1118
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: we know that there's always guys that you can find

1119
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: on the market that can do those things. He just

1120
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: can't find a center fielder like Brandon Nemo really anywhere

1121
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 1: in baseball outside like the premiere premier guys which we're

1122
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: not gonna get. No.

1123
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 2: And if brand Nemo did make it to free agency,

1124
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: he would get a lot of money. He would probably

1125
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 2: get something. He'd probably get more money than Starling Marte

1126
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: just got from the Mets this year. Definitely, you're probably

1127
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 2: looking at five years a twenty five million part for Brandon.

1128
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: And if that sounds crazy the Mets fans, that's really

1129
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: the going rate for his center fielder, who is a

1130
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: better than the average batrel raid. He plays good deef

1131
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: in the center field. He's still very much in his

1132
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: athletic prime. He walks more than almost anybody in baseball,

1133
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: he chases less and almost anybody in baseball. He strikes

1134
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: out less than almost anybody in baseball. This guy has

1135
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: literally a perfect skill set.

1136
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: I was just about to say, these are all things

1137
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: that like he can just continue to do. Like this

1138
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: isn't like he's getting lucky or he's like playing above

1139
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 1: his like skill. Like the way he plays his game

1140
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: is very repeatable because he's that good.

1141
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: No, he's truthfully, truthfully and honestly one of the better

1142
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: players in baseball that doesn't get their respect he deserves,

1143
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: Like I can't even imagine the way he's developed this far,

1144
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: and how like how much confidence I had in this

1145
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: guy when he was a prospect, and how much people

1146
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: who at first again mentioned last episode, it was just

1147
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: like the few people followed me on Twitter and basically

1148
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: my dad and my friends were like, this guy's not

1149
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: that good. I don't know why he keeps saying this.

1150
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 2: It's now actually being like basically the second or third

1151
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: most viable player in this entire team who has almost

1152
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: no holes in his game whatsoever, and the only hole

1153
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: in his game is power. But he still has an

1154
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: above average battle rad so I feel like the power

1155
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: just will come, and even if it doesn't come immediately,

1156
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: I think Brandon was a guy who you give a

1157
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: long contract to and he'll just probably just pick up

1158
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: more power when he gets older, and he like just

1159
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: chooses to do that when he gets a little slower

1160
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: and moves to a corner outfield spot where he'll still

1161
00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: play really good defense.

1162
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: His ability to get on base at the top of

1163
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: the order, Like that is just so great. He's like

1164
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: a four hundred do base percentage is his career. That's crazy,

1165
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: that's nuts, that's so sick.

1166
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: It's four to fifteen right now with a two ninety

1167
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: batting average. Of course, I don't really care about bating average.

1168
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: But the fact that Brandon Nimo, a guy who has

1169
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: kind of been a passive in the past, has now

1170
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: just like really fine tuned his swing decisions to being

1171
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: perfect all the time. It's incredible. The only knock on

1172
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 2: Brandon Neimo is now and will forever be durability. But

1173
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: I've said this time and time again, You're only a

1174
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: guy an off injured player until you're not. Like sometimes

1175
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 2: it just happens, you just stop getting injured. Trade Turner

1176
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: was a guy whouldn't stay healthy in his career, and

1177
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: now he's like one of baseball's iron men. Like sometimes

1178
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: it just clicks, or sometimes you just hate your physical maturity.

1179
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: Like I don't know what they're having out in the

1180
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: water in Wyoming maybe a few years now, like being

1181
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: with this major league team getting good nutrients. Hopefully Brandim

1182
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: was stretching. He's just such a good baseball player and

1183
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 2: this is now a knock on Edwin das orchis bat

1184
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 2: adult like we've sung their praise is infinitely on this show.

1185
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: Edwind Diaz Slyder might be the best pitching baseball right now.

1186
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: It looks like a frisbee is completely unhittable. He's throwing

1187
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: ninety nine miles an hour. He's really confident, like he

1188
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: thinks he's one of the best closes in baseball. There

1189
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: is the arguments to be made that he's firmly in

1190
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: the top three right now, if not in the top two,

1191
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: just based on the guy who is number two, Liam Hendricks.

1192
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: His organization still uses a pen and pencil, that's part

1193
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: of it. But in Bassett too, Like bass it's just

1194
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: steady as hell, Like I Bassts the guy would want

1195
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: in this rotation for the next few years because he's

1196
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: just something you'll never have to worry about, like he'll

1197
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: never be great, but like you can throw him out

1198
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 2: their third game of season, third game of a potential

1199
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: playoff series, and he'll give you five or six innings

1200
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: every single time. Bar Nunn and he will dominate the

1201
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 2: bad team.

1202
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: What's really cool about this? You know, being a Mets

1203
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: fan right now, is there's a world where we just

1204
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: keep all three of those guys because we have an

1205
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: over that's willing to spend. Like, how great is that?

1206
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: Like if you if we started this podcast a few

1207
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: years ago with this team, we'd go, Man, we really

1208
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: do have to pick one. There's a really good chance

1209
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: we keep all three of these guys, and that would

1210
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: be so sick because they're all really really good, like

1211
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: you said.

1212
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: Or at least two of them, because there are some

1213
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: pretty unbelievable free agents next offseason, two of them being

1214
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: Trey Turner and Aaron Judge. Yeah, who, Like I figured

1215
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: that the Mets to get one of them, then Brandon

1216
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: would probably be gone and signed like a nice twenty

1217
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: five million dollar contract to play for I don't know,

1218
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 2: like the Astros, probably in the rock Race forever. That'd

1219
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 2: be bizarre. He would he could.

1220
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: Win MVP in Colorado that he was a Rocky fan

1221
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: growing up.

1222
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: Here You go here, Wyoming closest closest team is in Denver.

1223
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: We don't have to worry about that anyway.

1224
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, all those guys are really good. But I just

1225
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: think brand Nemo has very clearly taken this step in

1226
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: front of our eyes and put himself in an elite,

1227
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: elite tier of Major League Baseball players, a tier that

1228
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: he always kind of was in secretly, just in a

1229
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 2: smaller sample, Like when every time we said that brand

1230
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: Nemo is like a top ten WRC plus over the

1231
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: last three years, Like he wasn't wrong, Brand Nemo is

1232
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: one of the lowest chase rates in baseball, like comparable

1233
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: to guys like Mike Troad, Alex Breadman. It was never wrong,

1234
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: Like he always had these skills, he was just never

1235
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: on the field for a long enough time, consistently put together.

1236
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: And of course we hope that continues, even though as

1237
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: we sing his praises here for ten minutes the end

1238
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: of this podcast. But I just like watching him play baseball,

1239
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: and it's clear that this team has a different level

1240
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: when he's doing this from the leadoff spot.

1241
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's sick how much he gets on base,

1242
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: just it really jumpstarts this lineup. And hopefully we get

1243
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: to see him get on base a little bit more

1244
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: this weekend as we have the ever so anticipated Seattle

1245
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: Mariners come to town. It is the Jared kellen Nick

1246
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 1: Versus Edwin Daz Series, and hopefully we get to see

1247
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: Edwin Das face Jared kellen Nick in all three games.

1248
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: That'd be great. We'd be feeling good if we see

1249
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: Edwin Dias versuskalen Nick in all three games.

1250
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's almost impossible to happen, because there's no

1251
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 2: way Jared Kelnick's playing like all three games of the series.

1252
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: Like it's just not really an every day player right now.

1253
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: For the Mariners they have, they have a lot of

1254
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: ball players out there. It's in one a buck forty.

1255
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still nervous. I'm still nervous. I'm not gonna

1256
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: lie just because I never I like the guy. I

1257
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: don't want to see him play well this weekend by

1258
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: any means. I hope he goes over ten so that

1259
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: the discourse in the conversation can just stop at stop

1260
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: right there, because as we know, sometimes there are Mets

1261
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: fans that live very much in the in the present,

1262
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 1: and if you see Jered Kelnick have a rough weekend,

1263
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: there's gonna be people screaming we won the trade. Which

1264
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: that's what I want to hear. That's what I want

1265
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: to hear after the series.

1266
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: With his inklings of that rather coming already today in

1267
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: the radio broadcast, either how we or Wayne said, like,

1268
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: I think the Mets the time might be turning on

1269
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: this trade. You don't watch Canot every single day. You

1270
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: forget that you're paying fifty million dollars for the next

1271
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: two years and you're watching Daz dominant Hithers on a

1272
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: night in, night out basis, you can maybe trick yourself

1273
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: they won the trade. I'm not gonna say that, of course,

1274
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: but it will be fun to have all that story

1275
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: and stuff happening. Also, Edward Diaz facing his original team

1276
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: team that signed him when he was probably like a

1277
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: sixteen to fifteen year old. There's a lot of storylines

1278
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: in this series for two teams that play each other

1279
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 2: literally once every three years.

1280
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm excited. I love I like the Mariners

1281
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: a lot. It's a team that, like, if I were

1282
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: to ever root for an American League team, I like

1283
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: the Mariners a lot. They've always been great to me

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00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: whenever I've worked with them as well, So shout out

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00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: to the Mariners. We've got some really fun pitching matchups

1286
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: this weekend, like with like maybe not marquee matchups in

1287
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: every single game, but there's guys to keep an eye

1288
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: out for in every single game, which I like.

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00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly Friday night blackout game. Mark and I have

1290
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: both be in attendance there. Hopefully this is my second

1291
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: consecutive blackout. No hither but Max cherys against Marco Gonzalez.

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00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: Mark Gonzalez is a He's a fun pitcher. He's just

1293
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: one of those classic guys who throw sinkers, change up,

1294
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: some curve balls, keeps the ball around the zone. You

1295
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: won't let you kill him, but you'll have an opportunity

1296
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: to Mark Gonzalez. So interesting enough, we're talking about Denver

1297
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 2: before he grew up in Colorado, and with that he

1298
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: didn't learn a curveball in his youth because of how

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00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: weirdly curveballs behave there. So Marco Gonzalez actually was throwing

1300
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: two different change ups when he was coming up as

1301
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: high schooler, which I thought was really interesting. That was

1302
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 2: the first ever thing I wrote about baseball that got'ta

1303
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: be my first ever blogging job, which sonestly kind of cool.

1304
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: We just want to shot that out there. And then

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00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: the second game of the series, we have Chris Bassett

1306
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: versus George Kirby. If anyone out there has not hit

1307
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: to George Kirby, He's one of the best pitching prospects

1308
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: in all baseball. Sits ninety six, ninety five, ninety seven,

1309
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: touches ninety eight, ninety nine. He's got a slider that

1310
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 2: graades out pretty well. He's got a curve ball looks

1311
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: really good, but he doesn't throw it very often. He

1312
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 2: is literally one of the most exciting pitching prospects in baseball.

1313
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: It's gonna be cool for a lot of people have

1314
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: never seen him before. See him firsthand.

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00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: New York kid as well, really yeah, crazy from He's

1316
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: from Ryan, New York. So local guy. He went to Elon.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Matt Smooth. Wow.

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00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: Fund Space is a contributor. Ray I think is actually

1319
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: where Don Draper's like family home is actually set in

1320
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: mad Men.

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00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: Look at that George Kirby, local kid. Hopefully we sholl

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00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: him old money.

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00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully we do s shell them. And then Sunday

1324
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 2: Matt Enne Carlos grasco versus Robbie Ray. And this is

1325
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 2: probably the is the matchup of this series where I

1326
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: say we're the most at a deficit because Ray, though

1327
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: hasn't really been like cy Young Ray from twenty twenty one.

1328
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: He's kind of been like a mix of the old

1329
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 2: Diamonbacks Robbie Raverers throws a lot of pitches and the

1330
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one ray where he gets the last streakouts.

1331
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 2: So no reason not to get to these guys, no

1332
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: reason to not again win this series against the Mariners.

1333
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: No. Mariners have been struggling a little bit this year,

1334
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: playing a little bit lower than expected, not playing as

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00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: well due to a part that you know, a lot

1336
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: of the guys aren't really hitting Baseball's all the stuff

1337
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: that we know of Zara been going on. But they

1338
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: do have some fun players to watch, specifically the guy

1339
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: that I'm going to be so excited to see in person,

1340
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: even though he's playing against US, Julio Rodriguez. I'm just

1341
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: such a big Jay rod fan, Like, I think he's

1342
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: going to be an absolute stud of generational type talent.

1343
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: And he started to heat up now too. It seems

1344
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: like he might be finally starting to get comfortable at

1345
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: the major league level. If you want to talk about

1346
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 1: a five tool player, if you want to talk about

1347
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: a guy who's exciting, fast power, good glove out in

1348
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: the outfield, can just run down baseballs, Lula Rodriguez is

1349
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: pretty sick.

1350
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: It's also a small guy. I never i'd never actually

1351
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: watched him play a game. I just like had like

1352
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: tracked the status see highlights. He's he's not big at all.

1353
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 2: He's a he's a skinny dude.

1354
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: No, he's like ripped, he's cut.

1355
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's also he's still skinny.

1356
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: How how big is he? Don't look at it. I

1357
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: think he'll be here.

1358
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: I'm not looking up six six. That just that just

1359
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: literally can't be true.

1360
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I've met the guy in person. I

1361
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: met him as an eighteen year old and interviewed him.

1362
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: He's a massive human being. I don't know. I will

1363
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: say is he looks slender on TV.

1364
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 2: He looks very slender around too. I think that two

1365
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: twenty five is bullshit. I'm gonna say that now, Julio,

1366
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: if you wanted, we could get a scale by Julio

1367
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: Rodriguez against City Field. I'd love to do it, just personally.

1368
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna broadcast that out there,

1369
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: but I want to know, if my own sake, that

1370
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: guy's not two hundred and twenty. There's no chance he's ripped. Yeah,

1371
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: he's probably just dense sorry, whatever, Sure, he just he

1372
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: does look slight on the field tho, especially when he

1373
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: hits like he's very slender like he looks like if

1374
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: he stands. Sighways, just can't see him.

1375
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 1: It was he flat Stanley.

1376
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: He kind of is a little bit. He's still sick though.

1377
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 2: I love Lulie Rodrigans Lee's major league in stone base.

1378
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: I think he either is ten or eleven. He had

1379
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 2: a crazy play from like Maither Monday or Tuesday this

1380
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: week where he just hit a blooper over the third

1381
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: basement's head and he stretched out into a double. Because

1382
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 2: he's a freaky athlete. His ops is like well basically

1383
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 2: at eight hundred over the last three weeks. After the

1384
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: first two week the season, it was below four hundred.

1385
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: So just young kid getting his feet under him. He's

1386
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 2: fantastic and it's gonna be really cool to watch him play.

1387
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: He's a budding star.

1388
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: Probably the favorite, my favorite interview I've ever had with

1389
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: a player that's not on the New York Mets, Julia

1390
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: Rodriguez and then also Andres Munio's who I knew you

1391
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: wrote down?

1392
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: Dude's a fireballer, throws just like one hundred and three

1393
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: miles an hour with a white bat slider. Someone we're

1394
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: gonna see in the series. He's like he plays like

1395
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: the role in the Mariners bullpen because they have like

1396
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: a new age bullpen to do it the right way

1397
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: where it's like we have our best relievers and we're

1398
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 2: gonna throw them at the times we need them the most.

1399
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 2: So you could see him in the fifth inning, sixth inning,

1400
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: seventh and eighth inning, or ninth inning, just whenever the

1401
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 2: Andres Munno's ending comes up, and he's just gonna throw

1402
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 2: you things. I'll make your jaw drop. But also we

1403
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 2: got to show that former Met legend Paul see Walls.

1404
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: I was just about to say that Paul Seewald coming

1405
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: back to New York. Okay, so let me ask you this.

1406
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: Paul Seawald booed or cheered or nothing.

1407
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: I'm cheering him. I think I think the Mets fans

1408
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: are going to boo win because he wasn't that good

1409
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: with the Mets. But he always had a great slider.

1410
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 2: You always a great slide, They're always great. That will

1411
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 2: always had good WIT's always had a good movement. Seattle

1412
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 2: got a little more out of it. Plus his fastball

1413
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: lost he was always above average. It just it's so obvious,

1414
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: like a guy like that would have left him been

1415
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: good Jared Kelnick. Does Jared Kelnick get booed because I'm

1416
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: thinking he's gonna get He might just get booed for fun.

1417
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's gonna be big time boos. I

1418
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: won't be booing the guy I don't think he deserves.

1419
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: He's having rough go of it as it is. But

1420
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: do you think he gets booed?

1421
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: I think he definitely gets booed. I think he probably

1422
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: loves it. I think him getting booed could catapault his

1423
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: entire career. Oh please God, No, I haven't given up

1424
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: on Jared Kelnick yet. He might not have the superstar

1425
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: status that a lot of people thought he did, but

1426
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: who knows. Even maybe the prospect people were just kind

1427
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: of caught up in the al Mets thing for all

1428
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 2: these years.

1429
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: True, it's true.

1430
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

1431
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: de fame any scouts out there, because Jared Kelnick did

1432
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 2: have everything that looked like a great hitter. They always

1433
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 2: struck out a lot. He continue to struck out a lot,

1434
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: not really identifyed breaking balls that well, yeah, it's gonna

1435
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: be a fun series.

1436
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting. Like you said, the Mariners will

1437
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: only come to town every once in a while, though

1438
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: in the future now will be like every year we'll

1439
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 1: play the Mariners.

1440
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: But when I was a youth, I was at a

1441
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 2: Mets Mariners game. I know which one it is time

1442
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: ago when they came. It was actually a Chase Dame

1443
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: when the last years is a shit, probably two and

1444
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 2: seven two eight. It was a Friday night, just like

1445
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: later today when you guys listen to this Felix Hernandez

1446
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 2: on the bump, when Felix Sander's like prime Felix. I

1447
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: was so excited, like a little kid who like just

1448
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 2: love baseball to see Felix s Shenandez live. And this

1449
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: motherfucker hit a grand slam against the Mets. I was

1450
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: just sitting there stunt. And this was in the same

1451
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: season I remember if this was before or after, or

1452
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: probably very close in time where I was also in

1453
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: the Mets game on a Friday night when Don tree

1454
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: Wols was near the height of his powers and he

1455
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: also had a grand Slam against the Mets. So there

1456
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: was one season when I was a kid. I saw

1457
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: two pictures of Grand slams against the Mets in the

1458
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 2: same year.

1459
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: Thank god pictures don't hit anymore, because boy, oh boy,

1460
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: it seems like they just love to They love to

1461
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: show up for James Ciano at the plate for sure.

1462
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: Whatever, But let's win those serious here. We're better than

1463
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 2: the Mariners. They're not bad. They play good ball, but

1464
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: they're They're not really that scary at the end of

1465
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: the day.

1466
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: No, we should definitely handle them pretty easily, I think,

1467
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: especially with how well the Mets have been playing, and

1468
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good spot for us to wrap up

1469
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: episode number ninety one of the Mets Up Podcast. Make

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00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: sure you guys have following us on all our social

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Speaker 1: Google Podcasts, wherever you find them, drop us five star rating,

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Speaker 1: drop us a review. Follow James on Twitter at Jeter

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Speaker 1: had No Range, Follow me at Draftneckmark. We're going to

1477
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: be at a bunch of games this weekend, so if

1478
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: you see us, make sure you say what's up again?

1479
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: We'll have stickers on us. James definitely will. I might

1480
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: remember too, if I am not just an idiot. I

1481
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I never remember to bring those things with

1482
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: me everywhere. I brought them with me to Arizona. I

1483
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: can't even believe that's the thing that I did.

1484
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: That's literally a psychological Why would you even do that?

1485
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: We're in my backpack. It was just they were in there,

1486
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: an accidental and accidental bring that's I'll remember to bring

1487
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: some for you guys. So if you see us, come

1488
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: say what's up. Otherwise that's it. See you guys.

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00:54:38,520 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: Bye the ne