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Speaker 1: Via Around the NFL Podcast burns the Midnight Oil. Okay,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to another edition to the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansens, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes Mark Sesler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Gregg ros the thought. What's up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Here we are again and again and again

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Speaker 1: and again Monday's episode one time after the night. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we planned this show and about six minutes. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: no, no no, it's twelve maybe twelve. Uh, did you guys

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Speaker 1: notice the new additions to the NFL Media grounds, some

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Speaker 1: of the aesthetic changes happening on this campus. Lots of

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Speaker 1: big changes, lots of murals, lots of billboard type pictures.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think of all the people on the

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Speaker 1: wall now that they invested, Who knows, they probably paid

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Speaker 1: a company ten thousand dollars to do this than that,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. Like I work in the custom

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Speaker 1: dig this has been like a multi day many people

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Speaker 1: working on it. There's there's cranes and like ten fifteen people,

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Speaker 1: you know, putting things up, and then are fifteen people.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it was like it was like three

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Speaker 1: people in those days, I'm just saying dollars to paint

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Speaker 1: a few things on a wall. It's not wounna be

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Speaker 1: a crazy price. Triple figures. Yeah, okay, a hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well they know who the client is and

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Speaker 1: it well, all right, let's get past it. Who on

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Speaker 1: the wall? Do you think it most likely? Well, they

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Speaker 1: Dan Helly from NFL Network. No, I didn't think there

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Speaker 1: was a mistake. Well, part of that, it's not how

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Speaker 1: i'd frame it. There's a picture I think it works

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Speaker 1: in Dan and williamcginn favor. There's a big picture up

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Speaker 1: of Dan Helly and Willia McGinnis monster picture as you're

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Speaker 1: going through one of the hallways. That's that's leverage right there.

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Speaker 1: When their next contracts are coming up, it's like what

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't a mistake to put them up. In

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Speaker 1: terms of who they selected, now you know, great choices.

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Speaker 1: There were some concerns that you thought maybe someone in

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Speaker 1: gotten more attention in that space there. But there was

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Speaker 1: talking about that. Who was where was there? Where was

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Speaker 1: I think it might be Josh Norman. I was looking

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Speaker 1: these are people painted on murals outside of our building,

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Speaker 1: these type of players in the halls that that's weird.

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Speaker 1: And then Josh Freeman is back on the wall. H

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Speaker 1: we'll see about that. I don't know if that was

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Speaker 1: TV people made the decision, and TV people love when

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Speaker 1: adjustment that was made on this campus was they ripped

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Speaker 1: trip podcast, Mark Uh, it looks funny. It's like when

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Speaker 1: be a mak um. All right. Today's show UH is

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Speaker 1: sponsored of course by Mr Flames economics class in the Haguean, Netherlands,

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Speaker 1: and UH we will now talk about we're not now

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Speaker 1: a little later in today's show, we'll talk about collateral

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Speaker 1: damage and collateral beneficientes or benefits UH for players. So,

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Speaker 1: if you got banged by the events of the past

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Speaker 1: events of the last couple of weeks, those events most

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Speaker 1: mostly tied to free agency? Who really came out of

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Speaker 1: we'll get to it. We'll get to it. Uh, And

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. Great. You wrote an accompanying banger

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Speaker 1: But collateral damaged that one, That one is up. Yes,

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Speaker 1: That hurts. So we'll talk about that. And we also

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Speaker 1: the glass of sid Sid, How was how is Magic Mountain?

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Speaker 1: How was six Flags this weekend? You know it was great?

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Speaker 1: have done that. I don't like it. Don't wait Sydney

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Speaker 1: before the show. When I asked you you you utterly

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Speaker 1: News you want to do some news? Okay, what happened

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Speaker 1: to the analogy? What Mark che on his girlfriend? Oh? Well,

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Speaker 1: speaking of Rob Gronkowski and things that could get him

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Speaker 1: give you closure? Dan, Well, it's funny you should bring

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Speaker 1: organization that you know, took his legs out from under

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Speaker 1: him and he didn't get to make the decisions anymore.

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Speaker 1: As recently as midway through last season, there's still these

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Speaker 1: leaks coming from the Bills that are like, well, we

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Speaker 1: still kind of want to see e j Manuel like

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Speaker 1: that we wanted to bench Tyrod Taylor midway through last season,

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Speaker 1: Like those leaks came. Remember when they were in London,

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Speaker 1: when you were in London back in two thousand and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: The Greg Roman at the time was the one that

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Speaker 1: a lot of people thought liked ej Manuel. There were

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Speaker 1: issues with whoever else was at quarterback, but what a

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Speaker 1: mysterious career free j Manuel? So far? Am I the

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Speaker 1: only one who thinks the Raiders should be aiming a

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Speaker 1: lot higher for the car insurance after what happened in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs? Good point. I would have taken. I take

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Speaker 1: Matt McGloin on a resigned contract over ej Manuel. I'd take. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would take plenty of Pean Fitzpatrick to be something

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Speaker 1: and e j Manuel that these talent evaluators see that.

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Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't a back. Yeah, he's a leader.

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Speaker 1: Like people liked him coming out of he was Mike

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Speaker 1: Mayock and Greg cos he was all their number one

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Speaker 1: quarterback in that class too, like he had some skills.

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Speaker 1: Moving on, a report from The Observer reporter Ben Roethlisberger

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Speaker 1: leaning toward a return to the Steelers. The exact quote, actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards it. That's that's the entire articles. That's

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Speaker 1: the that's the article. Roethlisberger uh in January, after the

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Speaker 1: Steelers were knocked out of the playoffs by New England

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Speaker 1: set on his radio show that he had to think

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Speaker 1: about whether or not he was going to play in

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Speaker 1: I will give credit to this room, but also the

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Speaker 1: football Cogna sent for seeing through this that Big Ben

455
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Speaker 1: was never going away. Well calm down, big Ben. Nobody

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Speaker 1: believed anyway. Yeah, I mean breaking news. Uh, screw bitch here.

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Speaker 1: I am also leaning towards writing about football in TV,

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Speaker 1: and I mean, unless I could get fired, I guess

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Speaker 1: like a Moral's close. In the next breaking news, Will

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Speaker 1: Brinson will continue his career as a sportswriter. Well, as

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Speaker 1: he said, barring disaster right again where Morals called, that's

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Speaker 1: entirely possible. I do. That's not actually the most interesting thing.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know Dale Lolly at all, But did

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Speaker 1: you guys, I'm sure at least one of you clicked

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Speaker 1: on this observer reporter thing. Did you notice his bio

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Speaker 1: in the top right corner. Until I could think about

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Speaker 1: what I was, let me read it. I'm after hobnobbing

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Speaker 1: around the NFL and the press boxes and sidelines, sports

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Speaker 1: reporter Dale Lolly will let you know the insider Scoop.

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Speaker 1: Dale can also be heard on the Steelers Radio Net.

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Speaker 1: We're pretty sure prior every game follow her on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at the lollybyes hobnobbing. Who's talking with the hob nobbing

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Speaker 1: about It's not you don't You're not doing work at

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Speaker 1: your hobber. Lolly's got the insider scoop. So if you

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Speaker 1: based on this profile, if you do x amount of

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Speaker 1: hob nobbing at any period, you're at that point you

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Speaker 1: can go into the bunker and just be an insider.

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Speaker 1: I guess. I guess so you probably would know. I

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Speaker 1: thought you had to stay in the streets. Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of all. I'm all over the place. I'm the

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Speaker 1: you've carved your own path. Yeah, everybody goes their own route. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The lollyman the lollipop on his own route. Well, I

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Speaker 1: like that that. Ben Roethlisberger's is still not committing. He

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Speaker 1: said he's leaning towards it. Like, at what point is

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Speaker 1: he getting pissed or depressed or just is it making

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Speaker 1: him crazy that literally no one believes him when he's

487
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Speaker 1: threatening retirement, like his general manager has spoken about it publicly.

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Speaker 1: The owner has said that they all expect him back,

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Speaker 1: and yet he's they didn't do anything to address the

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Speaker 1: issue in free agency. Yet he's still out there kind

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Speaker 1: of being like, well, you know, I'm leaning towards it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not like no one believes this guy. I would

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Speaker 1: go crazy if I were him. Maybe he should just

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Speaker 1: retire just to stick it to people. I would be

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Speaker 1: fine with that. Would that would be a weird move

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Speaker 1: to retire. Really, no one believe I'm going to retire

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Speaker 1: out of spite. We all got loullied there and finally

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Speaker 1: in the news. Oh man, it's a big one. Tripolet, tropolet, tropolet, tropolet, tropolet.

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Speaker 1: Blake Bortles triple art machine is gonna blow. Blake Bortles

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Speaker 1: confident about his offseason progress. This Bordles told Jacksonville dot

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Speaker 1: Com the first week, it wasn't pretty. It didn't look good.

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Speaker 1: Part of trying to change things is it won't be

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Speaker 1: great right away. But we were able to hash it out. Mark,

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Speaker 1: They hashed it out. No more mechanics issues, no more

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Speaker 1: Crumby interception rate. Blake Bortles is back because of his

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Speaker 1: work with quarterback in Guru's Tom House and Adam do

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Speaker 1: do By. No, it's a trope because it's completely ponderously

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Speaker 1: predictable that we'd be getting this story right now. Thankfully

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Speaker 1: for me, I won't be touching this issue all offseason.

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Speaker 1: We have our no right lists things we will never

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Speaker 1: be asked to write about. Mine includes Blake Bortles in

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Speaker 1: the NFC. Has this ever been the entire end of

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Speaker 1: done with them? Just one question on that one, but

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Speaker 1: I'll respect that. But I don't have any power within

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Speaker 1: the organization to have the middle managers signed off on this.

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Speaker 1: The people that would hypothetically assigned to you various stories

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Speaker 1: been fine so far. Mark has basically taken napalm to

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Speaker 1: our instant messenger client lately and told the bosses that

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Speaker 1: he's doing whatever he wants to do. This is some

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Speaker 1: of the same advice that Mark has given me in

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Speaker 1: my dealings with my wife. Just if you wanted to

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Speaker 1: bring that up, Greg, that's fine. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: know why you needed to do that. Neither does Will.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine there is a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: connective this year from Office Space five with you right now, Mark,

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Speaker 1: where you're just seeing how far you could push middle

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Speaker 1: management before they act, and maybe you'll just you know,

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00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: just promotion will come out. I think that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: could happen? Do you ever do this? Will at CBS

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Speaker 1: just start going rogue, push your boundaries, you know, start

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Speaker 1: telling Priss go to shove it, gotta gotta fish at

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Speaker 1: your cubicle. I tried it, Um, And if you the

533
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Speaker 1: problem is, if you go rogue on Prisco, he's like,

534
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: he'll rat you out. He's just you know, he's just

535
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Speaker 1: he's just a very can narc and he will just

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Speaker 1: he will, he will, he will take he will go

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Speaker 1: to the boss and tell you, tell them exactly what

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Speaker 1: you said. And I'm not, I'm not. I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 1: really more of a state in my lane and grumble

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Speaker 1: quietly to the side about how about as Greg is

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Speaker 1: starting to do, going totally rogue on the home front.

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Speaker 1: I know you have, you know, a young child, You've

543
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: got to Karen White, but just going utterly rogue, you

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00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 1: know inside your house. Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's my movie. Mark. Um.

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00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: Usually I'll like, I'll take all the TVs up to

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Speaker 1: my office and and just and just hang out up

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Speaker 1: in my office and not do any work. I'll plan

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Speaker 1: trips to other cities to see concerts with friends and

549
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Speaker 1: tell my wife the week before we leave so that

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Speaker 1: you I mean, those sort of things just really even

551
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Speaker 1: just power place if you will, you're owning that space.

552
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: I like it. Um Will Brinson at will Brinson on Twitter,

553
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: make sure you follow him. You could read his stuff

554
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: at CBS sports dot com, where again he's the senior

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Speaker 1: NFL writer. That is a good title. I gotta get

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Speaker 1: one of them. I gotta get a senior Daniel Lane.

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Speaker 1: Dan back up, and again, Will thank you for serving

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Speaker 1: as the conduit for all the global media. And I

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Speaker 1: say this one more time, no requests. If you want

560
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Speaker 1: any of my thoughts on the Tom Brady Jersey saga

561
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: see earlier in this podcast. Will thank you. I will,

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Speaker 1: no problem. I will. I will type up my pool

563
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Speaker 1: report and have it to you guys. I'll have it.

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Speaker 1: I'll have it along with the TBS report tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, very very nice. Will Brent's everybody, and that's

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Speaker 1: what's happening in the news, all right, guys, Very nice

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Speaker 1: of Will stop buy and do that service. Mark did

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Speaker 1: a great job. I thought. He asked some you know,

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Speaker 1: the three top questions right out of the gate, like

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Speaker 1: a true journal and you're right, You're right right. It's

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Speaker 1: time from and I gotta I gotta break something new. Globally,

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Speaker 1: streets are talking. You know, at least they're talking. I'll

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Speaker 1: take that. At least people are talking. What's what's hands

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Speaker 1: is coming up with next? It was like Michael Jackson

575
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Speaker 1: after Thriller, What's coming next? I feel like I've been

576
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Speaker 1: you know, if I was against this whole movement, I've

577
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: been more accepting of it on this show. But Greg

578
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: seems to constantly becoming coming at you. I think you

579
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: could read between the lines and that really it's coming

580
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Speaker 1: on Greg's corner. I'm going to be Ian's corner. No,

581
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: but like you know, the some of the network references

582
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Speaker 1: I've gotten and do we think, I would imagine not

583
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Speaker 1: highly threatened. Not yet. I think in terms of exposure,

584
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Speaker 1: Greg has the most exposure on the network and things

585
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: of that nature. So like this comes around all of

586
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, Greg's like, hmmm, we don't like you this much,

587
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: speaking of which can mentally challenge Yoda. Well, I'll be

588
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Speaker 1: on the network Tuesday, up to the minute live with

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Speaker 1: a live hit. The show has now moved, Dan, do

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Speaker 1: you know what it is? No, No, it's literally we're

591
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Speaker 1: taping it during the show so you should be able

592
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Speaker 1: to figure it out PM Eastern two pm Pacific. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's great. Our head will be somewhere in the middle

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Speaker 1: of that, I think, But yeah, I think we're on

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Speaker 1: a few times, definitely Tuesday. The producer actually approached our

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Speaker 1: cupical today and say, hey, we're moving you up in

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Speaker 1: the show a little bit. That I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: a good son. Well, last time out, Mr F got

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Speaker 1: to mention on NFL Network that was that was excellent

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Speaker 1: people starting a job by Mr Patrick Claibon with the

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Speaker 1: Mr F ref in a big spot. All right, now

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Oh yeah, it's collateral damage time. Greg.

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00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: Is a two part column, and why don't we talk

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Speaker 1: about it. We'll go around the horn here a couple

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Speaker 1: of times, and you can go, um, collateral benefits for

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Speaker 1: a player, uh any player? Or collateral uh damage for

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00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: any player? And Greg, Um, why don't we start, Greg,

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Speaker 1: since you wrote the piece at NFL dot Com, I'll

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Speaker 1: start with the Patriots in general, because I think the

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Speaker 1: Patriots what they do that is unique is they do

611
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Speaker 1: a good job of planning for this year's team and

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Speaker 1: ahead at the same time. So three of their moves

613
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Speaker 1: this year I think spelled some bad news for players

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Speaker 1: on their roster coming up. Julian Edelman, his contract runs

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Speaker 1: out at the end of two thousand seventeen. Oh, I'd

616
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Speaker 1: like like to have an extension. Oh, a little bit

617
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Speaker 1: of less leverage, certainly fewer targets after getting Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I can't see Julian Edelman having

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Speaker 1: the same numbers. And he's been one of the most

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Speaker 1: underpaid players in the NFL, I would say over the

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Speaker 1: last few years. Signing a four year, seventeen million dollar

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Speaker 1: counter he's never He's probably never gonna get a big

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Speaker 1: time NFL contract, and he probably won't get in New

624
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Speaker 1: England now. I think he'll have to take a below

625
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Speaker 1: market deal if he stays because of Brandon Cooks. And

626
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Speaker 1: then similar to that, James White is the hero of

627
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and they bring in Rex Burkett, who

628
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Speaker 1: does some similar things, maybe even a little better than

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Speaker 1: James White. And Malcolm Butler is a super you know,

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl hero, and they bring in Stefan Gilmore, which

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Speaker 1: is gonna I don't know if he leaves New England.

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Speaker 1: I still think Malcolm Butler might end up staying, but

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have less leverage. He's not gonna get the

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Speaker 1: contract necessarily that he wants because the guys coming in

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Speaker 1: the one. And I'm not questioning any of these moves.

636
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Speaker 1: Some of the loyalty issues, I could factor him, but

637
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: they listen there, they know what they're doing. My one

638
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: concern I would have since you brought up Malcolm Butler,

639
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: what Logan Ryan's gone. Stephon Gilmore has had up and

640
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: down NFL career. He was actually really bad the first

641
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: half of last year and then came on. What if

642
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: you get like a crappy stuff on Gilmore and then

643
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: Logan Ryan's gone, and you let Malcolm Butler go to

644
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: New Orleans, they could jack up their secondary potentially. Um

645
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: so they're gonna do some collateral damage to themselves. Possibly,

646
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: it's possible, which is one reason why I wouldn't be

647
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: surprised if they keep Malcolm Butler, and who knows if

648
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: they trade him. Maybe they use the first round pick

649
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: in assuming they get one that they get back, Maybe

650
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: they use it on a cornerback and kind of start

651
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: all over there. I I think Dion lewis too. I mean,

652
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: he's got to be watching this thinking like how do

653
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: I fit in in this backfield where everyone's are receiving

654
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: back the dark timeline that you laid out twelve and four.

655
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say, Dean Lewis, if anything could

656
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: be on his couch watching Super Bowl fifty two, the

657
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: Patriots taking another one. This will work out fine for

658
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: I do this every year. I'll lay out a dark

659
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: scenario for the Patriots and it never takes. So this

660
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: is my my new one right now? Is the secondary,

661
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: I guess, but it's there's some logic to it right that, No,

662
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: that could backfire. It absolutely could happen. And then the

663
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Speaker 1: offense scores thirty eight points again thirteen and three give

664
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Speaker 1: us some collateral? Well, are we going forward benefits here? Beef?

665
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: It's a weird year because the signings are so spread

666
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: out and so many of the big names Tony Romo,

667
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, Adrian Peterson, Jamal Charles J. Cutler, like Garrett

668
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: Blunt even are still out there. So if the Packers

669
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Speaker 1: or the Raiders had signed like Peterson to go with

670
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: Martellis Bennett or Peterson to go with Jack Cook and

671
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: court Darryl Patterson, I could see those being winners. But

672
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Speaker 1: I'll take Jamis Winston just because I thought he really

673
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: needed that second receiver behind Mike Evans, and he got

674
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: the best d threat in football into Seawan Jackson. I

675
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: know Greg was really excited about the Bucks last year,

676
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: and I wasn't ready to go there with Jamis, but

677
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: I could see this being the breakout here. Offensively, I

678
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: agree because I think they're they're gonna get better at

679
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: running back to I don't know who it's gonna be,

680
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: whether it's gonna be a free agent or UH draft

681
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: pick or both. And Doug Martin actually does something just

682
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: the simple fact for wins. They can't get worse. Charles

683
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: Simms is healthy and in two thousand fift team was

684
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: one of the best receiving backs in football, and he

685
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: didn't really have his services last year at all. I

686
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: like teams that understand that it's not just signing a

687
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: name at the top of the list, the guy that

688
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: costs the most, but it's about fit inside your offense,

689
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: and de Sean Jackson was the perfect guy to match

690
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: with Mike Evans, and by all accounts, jam and what

691
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: Jamis Winson had been lobbying for Deshan Jackson for weeks

692
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: and weeks, and so they showed his quarterback to We're

693
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: gonna get you what you need. How about Nick Carter,

694
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: the blond one from the Backstreet Boys publicly pushing for

695
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Speaker 1: a Deshan Jackson signing with Tampa. Are you that play

696
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: a role at all? That was a huge factor. Maybe

697
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: out here we don't notice that, but down in Tampa

698
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: that is an utterly massive factor. West named one Backstreet

699
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: Boy song back Streets Back. All right, that's correct, that

700
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: is a song. It's in saying that. That's the name

701
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 1: of a song by Backstreet Boys. Um, Sydney, we can't

702
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Speaker 1: play this. Yeah, there's a good job. Command play the song.

703
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: But let's play a song that sounds like Backstreets Back.

704
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: She likes a peppermid bubble gum Sunday. She's like that. Okay,

705
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: that's kind of what it sounds like. Alright, mark your turn,

706
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: get collateral. I'm gonna go collateral. Damaged this person was

707
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: damaged so far by the free agency process, like psychologically

708
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,479
Speaker 1: or well, I don't know. I think you'd have to ask.

709
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: You'd have to ask. It's Colin Kaepernick and this is

710
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: a guy that is, you know, years from from being

711
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: a super Bowl starter. I know, he's not the quarterback

712
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: that he was and his potential has bottomed out. But

713
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: the forty Niners quickly went out and signed Brian Hoyer

714
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: and Matt Barkley as better options than Colin Kaepernick, which

715
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago would have been a would

716
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: have been like a stunning move. At this point, I

717
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: think the reason I look at Kaepernick as damaged is

718
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: because of what happened last season, all the sitting sitting

719
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: during the national anthem business. You thought, all, you know,

720
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: people will get over that, and the country's changing and evolving,

721
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: and by the time the off season hits, Kaepernick's market

722
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't be affected by something like that, except you look

723
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: at who the NFL is owned by for the most part,

724
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: and it's super billionaire. Typically, you know, conservative, conservative, hyperpatriotic

725
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: don't want to affect their alliances in business or their

726
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: marketability of their team, and they don't want to bring

727
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: in that kind of drama. And this is a guy

728
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: who over the weekend raised over a million dollars to

729
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: fly an airplane to Somalia, which is in deep famine,

730
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: to bring water and supplies. It's one person doing something

731
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,959
Speaker 1: he cares about Colin Kaepernick in many ways has done

732
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: nothing but this kind of stuff for the last year two.

733
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: He is becoming, in his own way, politically aware, he

734
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: cares about issues, he's doing something positive to try to help,

735
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: and he cannot get a job. He's viewed, as it

736
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: seems to me, completely toxic to most of these teams.

737
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: Had someone texted me today who is not a big

738
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: football fan but is socially aware and wanted to know

739
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: why what? What is the real answer for why Colin

740
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: Kaepernick isn't getting interest? And it's a very complex issue.

741
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: First of all, we're talking about guy who lost his

742
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: job to blame Gabbert and then couldn't regain it last summer.

743
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: That matters in the NFL. When you're a quarterback who

744
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: can't beat out blame Gabbert his he's he lacks field vision,

745
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: he lacks accuracy, he lacks touch. These are issues he has.

746
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: So twenty five out of thirty two teams probably aren't

747
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: even gonna sign him because they don't want him as

748
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: a starter. And at that point, are you going to

749
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: sign him to compete? It's the same thing with Tebow.

750
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: Do you want the circus in town? And one anonymous,

751
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: a f C general manager UH spoke with Bleacher Reports

752
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: Mike Freeman, and here's in that vein what the GM

753
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: had to say. The problem is three things are happening

754
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: with him. First, some teams genuinely believe that he can't play.

755
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: They think he's shot. That's what West is getting at.

756
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: I'd put that number around Second, some teams fear the

757
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: backlash from fans after getting him. They think there might

758
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: be protests or Trump will tweet about the team. Think

759
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: about that. According to this GM, that feels that the

760
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: President tweeting would stop a team from pursuing a quarterback,

761
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: a football player. I'd say that number is around ten percent.

762
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: Then there's another ten percent that has a mix of

763
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: those feelings. Third, the rest genuinely hate him and can't

764
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: stand what he did kneeling for the national anthem. They

765
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: want nothing to do with him. They won't move on.

766
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: They think showing no interest is a form of punishment.

767
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: I think this is getting out with Mark, you were saying, Mark.

768
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: I think some teams also want to use Kaepernick as

769
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: a cautionary tale to stop other players in the future

770
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 1: from doing what he did. Yeeks, I want to see

771
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: this play out a little bit, and I look, I

772
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: you'll never You'll never go wrong expecting the worst out

773
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: of billionaires generally. I mean so so on some level

774
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: it makes sense, but everyone's saying blacklist, and I guess

775
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to see it shake out because I think

776
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: if if he did nothing last year off the field,

777
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: there was no kneeling controversy and he was a free

778
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: agent right now, would I would any of us be

779
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: that surprised? Now? I mean, Jay Cutler is a free agent,

780
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick's a free agent, Chase Daniels a free agent,

781
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: Robert Griffin the Third's a free agent. So if he

782
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: doesn't get a job the entire offseason, then I would

783
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: listen to that. And maybe all this is true, but

784
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: he he's damaged goods even putting all that aside. So

785
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: I kind of think, and I'm thinking the best of

786
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: these these teams that he will get a job, and

787
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: that just like Gino Smith just signed for two million dollars,

788
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: you know, for a very low price. I think eventually

789
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: he'll find some fit. Like the other guys, like Fitzpatrick,

790
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: I refuse to think that it is only because of him.

791
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 1: The football player Aaron Murray has signed a deal. Kellen

792
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: Moore just resigned with the Cowboys. But people above, I

793
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: think it has to be we would have to we

794
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: would have to willingly close our eyes to say this

795
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with something beyond football, And again

796
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: not in every case, but with large chunks of the league,

797
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: because when you're if your GM goes and does that,

798
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: who does the GM have to answer to owner? I

799
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: think this is an ownership issue in many more cases

800
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: than it is a GM or a coaching staff issue.

801
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: And it could be that the owner isn't even publicly

802
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: or even privately voicing these concerns. It could be just

803
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: the g M saying I know my owner wouldn't like

804
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 1: this because I'm not reading the leaves, like what's what's

805
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: the benefit here, what's the opera cost? Basically what it is.

806
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: It's as you said, it's a complex issue because I

807
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: think if if Kaepernick was thirty better last year, then

808
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be an issue. Get a job one last

809
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: By the way, if the idea of this guy kneeling

810
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: an international historical sign of fealty and respect during the

811
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: national anthem causes you to hate him, you really need

812
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: to do some soul searching yourself. That's all I'll say

813
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: about that. You gotta watch out with those Trump tweets too,

814
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: I'll get you in trouble. Mark looking at you, buddy, Well,

815
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: he might be tweeting at you soon about your investigative

816
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: work on the Patriots quarterback Good friends with You're getting

817
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: closer and closer to the web. You're insinuating that I

818
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: am in great danger. I'm just putting the I'm putting

819
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: the energy out there to see what happens. You're trying

820
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: to get me and my family killed. That's not really

821
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: that didn't come out exactly the way i'd say, But

822
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw one out there, and it's it's kind

823
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: of a tricky one because it's collateral benefit that can

824
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: become collateral damage. Is that even possible? That's part three

825
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: of the series. His name is Eli Manning and uh

826
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: the reason should be obvious? Obvious? Why benefit? Brandon Marshall

827
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: Um was signed to a pretty healthy contract for a

828
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: team that maybe wasn't hurting at the wide receiver position.

829
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: They went out and spent money to bring another veteran,

830
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall, who is people don't forget things quickly, but

831
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: he had as good as wide a season as any

832
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the entire league. In UH, the guy

833
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: can still play even if maybe he's lost a half step.

834
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: He's a great addition and uh certainly an upgrade over

835
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: West's boy Victor Cruz. So you slot in Brandon Marshall

836
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: with Odell Beckham and Sterling Shepard. Is that the best

837
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,959
Speaker 1: big three in football? It's probably in the conversation maybe

838
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: in terms of wide pop my head, that's the number one.

839
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: And then you have Eli Manning who's coming off a

840
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: wolfull season. He's thirty six years old, and this is

841
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: where the damage comes in. It's almost like the Giants say, hey, Eli,

842
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: put up our shut up now, because if he has

843
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: another season like he had last season twenty turnovers, you

844
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: really get the vibe that Eli's starting job for the

845
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: first time in fifteen years would be in grave danger.

846
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: Uh if if he's not able to take this offense

847
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: and put points on the board. And to that point,

848
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: earlier this month, um Ben McAdoo uh kind of put

849
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: Eli on the spot a little bit and he said

850
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: Eli needs to do a better job of playing with

851
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: fast feet and I think he needs to sit back,

852
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: sit on that back foot in the pocket. He kind

853
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: of puts some of their ills on him. So Eli's

854
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: gotta have a bounce back season or I don't know

855
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: if he has a job, is starting job. The GM

856
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: also said in January, elies on the back nine of

857
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: his career. You don't hear Belichick saying that about Tom Brady,

858
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: who's five years older than him. Well, they got they

859
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: they should draft a quarterback then because they they're not

860
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: signing one. So I mean they signed Gino Smith, but

861
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: that even I don't think that's a long term answer.

862
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: So that means they'll tell us what they think with

863
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: their draft, because that sounds great. But I will believe

864
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: that the Giants will move on from Eli Manning when

865
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: when I see it, I think they're gonna stick with

866
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: him a year or two too long. Well, I think

867
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: it's stressful. I'll never forget that Jimmy Johnson Miami Dolphins

868
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: era where he he attached himself to a late period

869
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: Dan Marino after being with Troy Aikman's heyday and you

870
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: could kind of just feel that it was not going

871
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 1: to all these people were like, Oh, you're just gonna

872
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: go into doubt into Miami and duplicate what happened with

873
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and it showed how hard that is. But

874
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: especially when your quarterback is declining, and now if you're

875
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: Ben McAdoo, it's a stressful role to be at the

876
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: back end of Eli Manning's career versus the every three

877
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: years four years he takes you to the Super Bowl

878
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: and has an amazing playoff run. I'll just add I'm

879
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: not ready to count him out. I think he could

880
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: have a good year next year. We'll see about the

881
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: arm strength and west. You brought that up many times.

882
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: If that arm is shot, then it's gonna probably come

883
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: back to to really haunt him and lead to the

884
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: end of his career. We have no idea. It could

885
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: be an in season's arm fatigue or something I'm just saying.

886
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: People have done for a long time. And he seems

887
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: to have overcome doubts his whole career. So if he

888
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: could extend his career another couple of years where he's

889
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: a proficient starter, I would not be stunning. There are

890
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: things they don't need to draft a quarterback now, it's

891
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: not a great class for that. If they're not in

892
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: love with someone, they don't need to find his successor.

893
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: And I think the geno smith, you know, signing for

894
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: whatever it is a patch, tells you exactly that. But

895
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: couldn't you see it? Would you be shocked? If I

896
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked picked in the second round and then

897
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: blew the doors off everyone and be like, whoa, they

898
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: just took a quarterback in the top three round. That's

899
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: what That's what the Patriots did. When the Patriots took

900
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, it came higher than a lot of people

901
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: thought the Patriots would pick a quarterback. But it was

902
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: at a time where you think Tom Brady's great, but

903
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: you don't know you have to taking these quarterbacks. They

904
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: took Mallett, they took bur Stt. Now it's like, I

905
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: don't I think quarterbacks. And the Patriots are showing this

906
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: with there were so much he's just take take a

907
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: lottery ticket in the third round if you get someone

908
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: you like, all right, one time, one more time around

909
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: and then we go Greg, I'm gonna go to someone

910
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: else that got damaged about that about Thomas Rowles hundred

911
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: and sixty one yards in the playoffs, you know, at

912
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: times he's looked like a top five running back, a

913
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: guy who can carry the load. Now, Eddie Lacy comes

914
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: in some similar skill sets there. I don't blame Pete

915
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: Carroll at all for wanting more guys, but I think

916
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: Rawls Rawles has had his chance and he hasn't been

917
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: able to stay on the field enough. At the same time,

918
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy that they believed in

919
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: enough coming off ankle surgery that they didn't really get

920
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: much support for Tomas. They were expecting him to come

921
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: back and kind of be the man. I think they

922
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: expected too much. They don't want to get burned this

923
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: time around. It's gonna be tough for him to get

924
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: all those carries again. Most backfields ride the hot hand,

925
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: and I'll be shocked if Thomas Rawls is not the

926
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: one with the hot hand entering week one. I mean,

927
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: I think Pete Carroll is very concerned about the durability

928
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: of that backfield they had an incredible Part of the

929
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: reason is your is your offensive line is a mess

930
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: and and your running backs cannot stay healthy. I like

931
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: the signing. I just I we'll see it's gonna be

932
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: a full on competition. That's all Seattle does. I'll do

933
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: another benefit twin Jared goff Todd Gurley. Wow, very faint benefit.

934
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: I like this. You haven't heard a single positive thing

935
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: Proffert on this site about the Rams, and here it comes.

936
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: They got the best tackle on the market, Andrew Whitworth.

937
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: They put him at left tackle. They moved Greg Robinson,

938
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: who has been an immense draft bust off of left

939
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: tackle where he's been terrible, and you move him. He's

940
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: going to compete at right tackle. But the best idea

941
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: might be just moving him into guard where he can

942
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: blow people off the ball. He was okay as a

943
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: rookie played guard. Yeah, maybe you can help the run

944
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: game and the passing game. You're definitely gonna help the

945
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: passing game with Andrew Whitworth, who is still playing at

946
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl level as of two thousand sixteen season.

947
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: And then if you move, if you move Robinson to

948
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: guard and leave Hanstein at at right tackle, I think

949
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: you've helped the offensive line immensely. He also went from

950
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: Kenny Brits to Robert Woods wide receiver. Yeah, but you,

951
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: but you went from Jeff Fisher's coaching staff, Sean McVeigh.

952
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: I think they would, and then they have a high

953
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: draft pick. Correct. No, the Titans have their first run.

954
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: They sold the farm. God. Yeah, I was gonna say

955
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: they would be well set up to take one of

956
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: these dynamic offensive talents in the first round. But they

957
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: kind of bang themselves a little bit here. But let's

958
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: stay positive. I like that we might get we might

959
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: get to see the first five games of his career.

960
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: Version of Todd Gurley. Who knows. M hm, that's fair,

961
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: all right, Mark, Why don't you finish it up? Collateral benefit.

962
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try very hard to spin this positively. Who benefits?

963
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,479
Speaker 1: How about football followers hoping for a mostly quiet march

964
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: and very humdrum free agency period. If that's what you wanted,

965
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: you benefited. That's what you got because wanted. I don't.

966
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 1: I I like drama as much as the next person.

967
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: But I think that you talk about this, you don't

968
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: like drama. You like things nice and calm, really person

969
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: like drama. I think if it came in the form

970
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: of Jimmy Garoppolo to the Browns, yeah, I mean the

971
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: rest of it. I think we just we talked about

972
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: the cap space thing where teams don't have to make

973
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: dramatic cuts, where this guy that you thought, oh my gosh,

974
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: there's no way he wouldn't be on this team next year. Well,

975
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: they got a free up cap space. I just think

976
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 1: that free agency, if they want to turn it into

977
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: this three day long television gala where it's like the

978
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: biggest thing on the planet, well you got to back

979
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: it up year to year. At some point there's got

980
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: to be these ten pole moments, and this free agency

981
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: period did not have that. In my book. You can

982
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: you can point to the brock Oswiler trade, but it

983
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: was more unusual than it was utterly you know, game changing.

984
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: He's not gonnaven be on a team next year necessarily,

985
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: and I I think that they've this is not going

986
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: to get better in one year. It's going to continue

987
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: to trend this way. It's gonna be truly about eight

988
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: or nine hours of real drama tucked into what we're

989
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: being told is four or five days of unbelievable television.

990
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: Well that this year has been weird though, because of

991
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: what West said before the biggest names. I've been on

992
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: the hook to write a ventual Adrian Peterson column for

993
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: two weeks running now for both weekends, Like, okay, if

994
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: with Adrian Peterson signs, you're writing a calm. Well he's

995
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: still he's still out there that anyone. There's someone on

996
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: the Juny, someone's on the Tony Romo beat. If if

997
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: Tony Romo happens, if it's Saturday night, you gotta write

998
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: it's like that hasn't happened either. Those are the big names.

999
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy g is still sitting out there. Cousins is in

1000
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: theory not sitting out there. But no one's totally closed,

1001
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: like the door on that. All the big names this

1002
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: year still waiting. I got I got Mark on the

1003
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt beat for next week. Well, what happens, Greg?

1004
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: If Adrian Peterson signs at ten at night on a

1005
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: Saturday and you have like six glasses of wine and

1006
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: you Greg's gotta write it. Well, Greg's not gonna have

1007
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: six classes of wine. And first of all, is that

1008
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: how you get a sign of these things? But I

1009
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: thought it was a sneaky, a humble brag from Gregg.

1010
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I'm on the beat for writing the

1011
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: story about the most legendary running back of the last

1012
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: third He and he or if that's a brat, If

1013
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: that's a humble brag, I'll trade it one of you

1014
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: guys can go on that hull. I have no desire

1015
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: to be on so exactly. But you're like, I struggled.

1016
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: I've written this column for a few years, and it

1017
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: was it was harder to come up with some good names.

1018
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: Like I went with Tyrod Taylor as a guy who

1019
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: suffered some damage, and like, what did he really lose?

1020
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: Like Robert Woods and Marquis Good. It's just he doesn't

1021
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: have any receivers. You know, he's stuck at not having receivers. Well,

1022
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: I you know, but your number two receiver at the

1023
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: time I wrote it, his number two receivers Walt Powell.

1024
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: So that seems that sounds that sounds like a guy

1025
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: that works in the maintenance department with the parks. Right,

1026
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: and then that's assuming Sady Watkins even healthy. He might

1027
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: he might be number one a pal. You're on pitch

1028
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: amount duty. Make sure it's round it off nicely. You

1029
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: make a very nice you make an appropriate parks and

1030
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: wreck manager yourself. You that that was a good order.

1031
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: That was the sinct I could do that. It's good

1032
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: to have a backup plan. That's much. It's a deep backup.

1033
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: I signed up for it, all right. Wait, I have

1034
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: a question on Greg's duty here. Oh yeah, so have

1035
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 1: you pre written any of it? Have you been tempted

1036
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: to pre write an article like guessing on which team?

1037
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: A couple of nutgrafts wasting time on pre writing things

1038
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: as marks game. I don't want to cut in. I

1039
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: would have written like two thousand words about the you know,

1040
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: the summing up his career, and just put like two

1041
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: paragraphs on top about where he went. I got right,

1042
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: you could does right right now, the state of his career,

1043
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: why people didn't have interest in him, that kind of stuff.

1044
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I got burned in the Super Bowl prewriting.

1045
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to go back. So the mental in

1046
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: terms of unsolicited advice from your colleagues, bust a couple

1047
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: of nutgrafts. Just get them out a little prewriting as

1048
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: a couple of you, I think you can't lose trust me,

1049
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: all right. It's just like the background on his that's

1050
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: how it wear a whole belt story and whatnot. I

1051
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: might leave that out. It was a switch. I just

1052
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: want to be factual as well. This is a big

1053
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: prore's a big spotlight on you. This story. It happens

1054
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Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson to the Patriots. Away we go. We're flying

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Speaker 1: into nineteen and oh and maybe that's why you don't

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Speaker 1: want to pre write it, because it becomes more about

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Speaker 1: the Patriots being unstoppable. Once he's connected, you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: home alone with your two children like you're handling them

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Speaker 1: for hours and hours all they're gonna be going nuts.

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Speaker 1: And Adrian Peterson is gonna retire and you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: screwed because you didn't pre write a word of it.

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Speaker 1: Take our advice, Greg, all right, that's it. We should

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Speaker 1: call up Judy Batista and offer advice on her writing

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Speaker 1: career too. Maybe former New York New York Times scribe

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Speaker 1: now writing for NFL media, Judy batistaging everyone to be

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Speaker 1: know every name that's mentioned deep background for anyone that

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Speaker 1: might not be aware. You're referring to. When I pointed

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Speaker 1: out that the John Gunzoz his nickname was Guy, I

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Speaker 1: had many people on Twitter thank me for considering that

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Speaker 1: they might not be totally aware of One of our

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Speaker 1: co hosts, husband Shadow League Figure, was in your corner

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Speaker 1: on this one too, The White Night of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, Greg Ros for all the uninformed listeners

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Speaker 1: out there. I catered to the informed ones. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I got all the banks. It's happened the last two minutes.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back on Wednesday. We hope to

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Speaker 1: have a special guest joining us in studio. No, it's

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Speaker 1: not little Debbie, but it is someone that we love

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Speaker 1: and admire and uh has not been here in a while.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully that will materialize. We'll see. If not, it

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Speaker 1: will be just the four of us and we'll have fun.

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Speaker 1: That's all we do. Let's go. You're in deep trouble,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't he? I'm really mad. Then, as the signing off

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Speaker 1: for Quiet starring the mail Man the Boss, a new

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Speaker 1: money behind the Glass Wednesday, mm hm everybody, yeah, hel