1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vandercam. I'm a mother of four, 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah hart Unger. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, practicing physician and blogger. On 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: the side, we are two working parents who love our 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: careers and our families. Welcome to best of both worlds. 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to the best of 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: both worlds. This is Laura. This is episode fifty five. 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: It is airing on August twenty one, which is pretty 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: much our one year anniversary. It's very exciting. We released 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: three episodes right at the beginning to launch the podcast, 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: so you think about fifty two weeks plus the three 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: at the beginning. This episode fifty five brings us right 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: around to where we started, and so this will be 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: our anniversary episode with a little bit of back to 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: school tidbits grown in because you know, we want to 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: be helpful in addition to just clapping ourselves on the back, 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: which is always fun. But you know, our traffic has 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: been growing, which has been awesome. We could always use 22 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: more though, right, there are many people in this world 23 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: who do not yet know about the best of both 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: World podcasts. So if you were thinking, hey, I would 25 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: like to celebrate with Sarah and Laura this wonderful anniversary milestone, Yes, 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: so you could do so by telling a friend or 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: colleague about this podcast. You could wish us a happy 28 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: birthday on social media tag us. That would be great 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: because then people will see it as well. Or even 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: more wonderful, you can leave us a rating or review 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: over on iTunes because it really does help when people 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: are looking at podcasts, maybe somebody's mentioned it or they 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: found us for search and they're like, oh, should I bother? 34 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: And if you've got hundreds of five star reviews, people 35 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: are like, oh, well maybe I will. So please do 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: leave a rating or review. It would be a great 37 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: way to say happy birthday to us. We would appreciate it. 38 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: We really enjoy doing this, and we will remind you 39 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: that we are at free. So there, that's what you 40 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: can do to repay us. That's what you can do 41 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: to repay us, if it's to leave us a rating 42 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: or review. Also, you can respond to our survey, which 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: we will be putting out soon because we want to 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: know what you'd like, more of what we could do better. 45 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: There will be a prize, and I don't think we've 46 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: exactly decided what the prize is. You didn't like my idea, 47 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: maybe we maybe we can add to that, and we did. 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: My wonderful husband actually has he would like to create 49 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: some best of both world mugs. I think mostly just 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: for me and Laura, but you never know, we could 51 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: also perhaps could share world swag. Now we said you could, 52 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, win a copy of one of my books, 53 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: although a number of blog readers have already purchased my books, 54 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: and that's a good point. True, you can give it 55 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: to a friend that would be awesome too, And then 56 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm the problem of what to give to her for Christmas, 57 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: So I guess as well. Uh yeah, so we were 58 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: looking back, and you know, because we get the stats 59 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: over at libson our host of how many downloads there 60 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: have been for various different episodes. Well and yeah, yeah, well, 61 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: I gotta say, like, the cool thing is that it's skewed, 62 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: and it's skewed to the more recent episodes because we've 63 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: grown over time, which is so cool. So I mean, 64 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about oldies but goodies later. 65 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to do a disservice for some to 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: some of the ones we did earlier, which actually covers 67 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: some really kind of basic bread and butter, best of 68 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: both worlds topics. But in recent times, since we had 69 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: more listeners, are sort of top top ones have been 70 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: more recent So the most popular one, and this is 71 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: a tribute to Laura probably is the one that we 72 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: did to promote her book. Will not promote her book, 73 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: to discuss her book Off the Clock. Let's not be around. 74 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: You're allowed to self promote. Yeah, and I really truly 75 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: enjoyed that book, So it was a It was a 76 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: fun episode and fun to talk about and many of 77 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: you checked it out, which is really cool. That was 78 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: episode forty three Off the Clock on that one. Yes, 79 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: our goals check in recently was pretty popular. Our time 80 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: tracking episode was a hit. Number thirty nine. Our most 81 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: popular interview episode drum roll please just kidding. We'll give 82 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: a shout out to Rebecca Fike. She was the attorney 83 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: with a very popular blog called lag liv that had 84 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: a great conversation with us sort of midway through the year. 85 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: Number twenty eight, so if you haven't checked that out, 86 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: I highly recommend it. People seem to like the Kan 87 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: MARII debate number thirty, the mom guilt, which we kind 88 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: of expected, and Planner Palooza I will give a shout 89 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: out to that was number twenty one of my faves 90 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: to do, and then also the recent superficial things. Yes, 91 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: although interesting, you know, it's interesting our top ones are 92 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: mostly US yaking, which is interesting to know that people 93 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: seem to like that. I know. Plus, we have we're 94 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: going to do a better job describing in our titles 95 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: what incredible things our guests bring to each show, because 96 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: I do think sometimes people see a name they're not 97 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: familiar with and then they scroll on by. I know 98 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: I've been guilty of that. So so we're going to 99 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: try to do a better job kind of showing you 100 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: why a guest was so compelling to us. We have 101 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: gotten to the point, I don't want to sound snobby, No, 102 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding where you know, we get more guest pitches, 103 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: then we have space four in episodes, which is not 104 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, that's pretty exciting, but it also means that 105 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: we're able to kind of pick and choose who we 106 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: think would be really awesome for you guys to hear from, 107 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: and it doesn't need to be someone who's famous, and 108 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: maybe someone who has a particular situation or an interesting job. 109 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I think that those are going to 110 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: continue to improve throughout time as well. Yeah. No, we 111 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: definitely got feedback that we needed to describe those episodes 112 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: better our guests. So if they're not a famous person, 113 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: people want to know, well, why should I listen? And 114 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: that makes total sense. You're trying to decide why do 115 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: you use your precious time listening to something? So we 116 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: are getting better on that. We appreciate the feedback. Please 117 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: keep sending the feedback. Again, We're going to do a survey, 118 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: but we welcome feedback in all forms, and we are 119 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: trying to get better. I mean that's where we're newbies 120 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: at this. This has been our first year on it, 121 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: and I definitely feel more comfortable now than we did 122 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: fifty five episodes ago. But yeah, lots lots of room 123 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: to grow in there. Sarah, what have you been in 124 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: your favorite moments so far? Well, interviewing Minusha's way up 125 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: there as we talked with let's see, I liked all 126 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: the organizing podcasts that we've done, and I really enjoyed 127 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: talking to Laurence Smith Brody, Like right, she wrote the 128 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: fifth Trimester right as I was headed back to work. 129 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: I thought that was such a cool opportunity and great timing. 130 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: And I will say Gretchen Rubin was pretty thrilling. You know, 131 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: I've listened to her for so long and then having 132 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: her on our phone line was pretty thrilling. Yeah, that 133 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: was pretty cool. What about you, Well, I've been really 134 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: liking the listener questions. I worried, you know, are we 135 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: going to get enough listener questions? And I think the 136 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: answer is yes, we will get enough listener questions to 137 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: take us through this podcast for the rest of time 138 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: pretty much, which is wonderful. Like you know, people love 139 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: to and not even just the question people have strategies 140 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: they want to share as well. And one of the 141 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: great things about having this platform is you get to 142 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: have this conversation with people and learn from each other 143 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: and learn what works, learn what hasn't worked. So I 144 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: know that that's a service that you know, wonderful women 145 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: provide for each other, and so I've been happy to 146 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: be a part of that. In terms of you know, 147 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: I had a real kickover and Bogel because I love 148 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: me too. Yeah, and then you know we traded out. 149 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: You know, I went on her show when she came 150 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: on ours, and I secretly wanted to do that forever. 151 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: And I'm a secret I'm not so secretly a little 152 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: bit jealous. But I got actually I got a mini 153 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: what should I read next? During our episode? So that's true. 154 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: So you got some amazing right there, and I've read 155 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: almost all of them. Actually I have to go back 156 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: and listen and see if I hit all of them 157 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: and do a recap. But she gave me some really 158 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: great recommendations. Yeah. You know, I have a soft spot 159 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: for the mom guilt episode because I have very strong 160 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: feelings on this topic. We got some fascinating feedback on it, 161 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: and partly just about your in my dynamic, apparently I'm 162 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: the I'm the tough one and you're the sweet one. 163 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: Guess if that's her or like Vaudeville podcast anyway, I 164 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: don't know about real so funny, Uh, there have been 165 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: some great moments. You know you talked about the Minusha 166 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: episode was so hilarious to me. I I mean, I 167 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: love that you have this like fangirl moment for her 168 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: of you know, you're so excited to talk to Menush, 169 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: So you've been playing this up on your blog beforehand. 170 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, we had this really exciting, awesome guest 171 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: coming up, but I didn't want to reveal it or 172 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: something like that. That's going to be Beyonce. And and 173 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: then you know, we were telling this to Minus on air. 174 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: You know, Sarah's like, oh, and my listeners are my 175 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: readers are so excited about you know, you being on 176 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: And She's like, well, not if they were expecting Beyonce. Yeah, 177 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: that is one of my favorite favorite moments of all 178 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: time in the in the podcast. Oh my goodness, So 179 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: that was that was great. We ah the oldies but goodies. Yeah, 180 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: the back. So please. Another thing you can do is 181 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: if you just came to us in the past few 182 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: months heard about the podcast. I mean, we're a little 183 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: bit more polished now than we were back last. Have 184 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: you gone back and listened. Do we sound better now? 185 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: I haven't realized it's fine. I think we do. We 186 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: sound better. I think it's more that we figured out 187 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: how to have a conversation without like being in the 188 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: same room. That it's a bit more give and take that. 189 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: I think we're a little bit more hesitant on the 190 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: first few episodes. There's a bit more of like, Okay, 191 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: now what do I say? Oh? Should I say this? 192 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: Like I was definitely feeling like oh should I Yeah, 193 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: coming like a little bit more self editing. Yeah, that's true, Yeah, 194 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: I do. And I wonder I think so I listened 195 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: to all of my podcasts on one point five speed, 196 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: and I've noticed that I'm one of the only people 197 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: that seems really fast on one point five speed. So 198 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: I think when we started, I spoke slower. So I 199 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: wonder if that's actually a negative. So I will appreciate 200 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: feedback on whether whether I think I think you sound fine. 201 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: I mean, but I'm listening to you at normal speed, 202 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: so I chipmunk speed. I'm not sure, but you know, 203 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: so we both like, you know, the episode number one 204 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: was why we decided to have more than two kids, 205 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: So we talked about that episode number four on childcare. 206 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: People always, you know, write us and be like you 207 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: should do an episode on childcare. Well we have. I mean, 208 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: we could do one every like four weeks and people 209 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: would yeah, well we could do another. You can do 210 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: childcare two point zero at some point. But we did 211 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: talk a lot about various nuances in that episode, so 212 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: I definitely recommend checking that out if you're interested. The 213 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: Mental Load one that was episode number five. We have 214 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: a most likely we'll have a guest on this fall 215 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: who will be talking more about mental load and emotional 216 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: labor and stuff like that, So that'll be we'll be 217 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: revisiting that topic later on episode number eight, outsourcing and 218 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: division number. We were on this for like any episodes 219 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: in a row, that was a hot topic. Well it 220 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: still is, I guess not be a hot topic. It 221 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: will never not be a hot topic. Well maybe someday, 222 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: when there's you know, equality everywhere all over the world, 223 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: maybe you could look without green. It could happen. Yeah, 224 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: the most random I love this. The Hurricane one episode. Yeah, 225 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: we were dedicated. We really wanted to come out with 226 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: a weekly episode, and back then I don't think we 227 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: were working quite as far ahead as we do now. 228 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: So when Hurricane Irma struck, you were like, well, is 229 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: there any reason that you can't record an episode from 230 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: where you're And I was like, yeah, good point, why 231 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: the hell not? So we set up my laptop in 232 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: my sister's house where we had fled to in North 233 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: Carolina and did a hurricane irma episode. So I'm not 234 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: like necessarily recommending that one, but it's pretty fine for 235 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: the moment. Well, because Sarah and I are I mean 236 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: this longtime listeners know this obviously, but we are not 237 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: in the same place, like so she's in Miami, I'm 238 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. Like, we're not recording in the same place 239 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: at all. And so it was more just like if 240 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: she had an internet connection somewhere she was able to record, 241 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: and I said, well, you know, we don't have to, 242 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: like obviously, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. But 243 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: we could also just you know, record twenty minutes of 244 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: us talking on the phone and put that up. And 245 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: so that's what we pretty much did well actually through 246 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: our through her internet. So same as normal. Yeah, same 247 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: as usual. You know. Eventually, I think it would be 248 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: really fun for us to record some in person, and 249 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: I do have some trips. I'm from Philadelphia, where Laura 250 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: lives right outside of Philly. We have some trips coming 251 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: up this winter, so there may be some live podcasts 252 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: coming at you, or at least recorded in the same room. 253 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: Podcasts coming at you, but it's not our typical I 254 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: want to go to Miami in the winters, make sure 255 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: I don't go. Yeah you should, yeah, I mean, so 256 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: you should get out of here low moments. We've had 257 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: some technical difficulties, and unfortunately what happens is it always 258 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: happens when we have like a high profile gal. I 259 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: mean literally, it's it's uncanny, and there's no reason that 260 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: that should be true. Computers can license. That were literally 261 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: our top three technical disasters were with well, number one 262 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: Dina Castor Yes, which you'll talk about in a minute, 263 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: Number two Gretchen Rubin, and number three minute I mean 264 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: really yeah, yeah. It was too bad because these are 265 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: all well. We had some issues with the Meredith vodcast 266 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: one too, with the editor in chief of Working Mother magazine, 267 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: like it's like zencaster knowscaster. Yeah, well, and so you know, 268 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: Dina was lovely, it was a beautiful interview. I thought, 269 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: this is so awesome, but we had our tracks didn't 270 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: line up, so it was being recorded in her location 271 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: in my location, and then we you know, we'll just 272 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: we didn't get to review it before for whatever reason, 273 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: and nowadays we actually now we know we can submit 274 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: them separately and they can fix that issue if it happens. 275 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: So we actually have done that in several episodes since then, 276 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: but we didn't know at that point, and that was 277 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: so had hard practice on top of each other. And 278 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: so at first I thought, Wow, I'm being just the 279 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: most rude interviewer ever. Why do I keep speaking on 280 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: top of Dina. I've got to stop this. Okay, no, 281 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: to self, don't do that anymore. And I'm taking notes. 282 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, trying to prove my interview technique. 283 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: And then I realized, like, no, it's not that I'm 284 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: speaking on top of her. It is they were literally overlate. 285 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: You know, She's having a normal conversation with me. It's 286 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: just it's delayed. And so that was that was unfortunate. 287 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: We've had some some people gave us a tough time 288 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: on that episode to you know, I understand, but we 289 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: actually had some nice feedback on it too. People are like, well, 290 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: it was really almost impossible to listen to. But I 291 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: thought she was so awesome that I listened to it anyway. 292 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, what bless you for for doing that, 293 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: because she is amazing. I mean, bronze medal and the 294 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: Athens Marathon and the Olympics Game and Olympic Games. She 295 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: has won the New York City Marathon. You know, just 296 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: an incredible person as well. So if you can ignore 297 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: my question, maybe even just like fast forward to my 298 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: questions and just listen to her, that would be that 299 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: would be great. Yeah. Yeah, and her book is really 300 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: good too, Yeah, exactly. Surprising moments. Hmmm, Oh well, I 301 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: would say I mentioned it before, but like we keep 302 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: getting pitches sometimes from like actual publicists. This probably surprises you, 303 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: lest I mean, you're in an industry where you're used 304 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: to that, but I am absolutely you know, I'm a physician, 305 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: Like I've never I do have a blog that I've 306 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: had for a long time, and so there's that sort 307 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: of public persona, but you know, I've never hit it 308 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: super big to the point where people's publicists are sort 309 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: of asking for airtime from me. Other than like the 310 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: occasional back in the glories of blogging, i'd get like 311 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: a box of like spaghetti or something to review. Anyway, 312 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: so I've been I've been really impressed and surprised by that. 313 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: So keep them coming. That's really cool and a lot 314 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: of fun. Yeah, because what about you We definitely get 315 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: some ideas from that. I mean, we can't write about everything, 316 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: and you know, we have certain markets, we have angles 317 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: that we like, and we were there are certain topics 318 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: we're probably not going to cover or we feel like 319 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: we have I'm probably not going to revisit them much again. 320 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: But you know, we're looking for new ones. Yes, so 321 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: that's great, and I will say, actually, I'll put a 322 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: shout out. So we're we're looking for more diversity. We 323 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: are looking like we have not had a same sex 324 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: couple yet and that's sad, so we should do that. 325 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: And we are looking for perhaps the right dad guests 326 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: to come on. That's some people have requested that, so 327 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what angle we'd want to take with that, 328 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: but if it's the right person, we would consider it. 329 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: We we get a lot of pitches from entrepreneurs and 330 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: we feel like there are a lot of podcasts out 331 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: there for entrepreneurs. I mean there are, I know there are, 332 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: because that's where I sort of felt very left out, 333 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: where a lot of these podcasts are talking about how 334 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: to do life when you're working for yourself, and I 335 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: wanted something that was not that, so, you know, not 336 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: to discourage the entrepreneurs, but if you have a fairly 337 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: rigid job with something interesting about it and something to say, 338 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: then that we'd love to hear from you. Yeah, exactly. 339 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: I've been surprised by how many of our listeners do 340 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: not have kids yet that are often younger professional women 341 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: who are considering having kids in the next like say, 342 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, year to five years. And I think that 343 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: many are listening to us to get a different voice 344 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: on it, to know that it's not going to be 345 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: this crazy, horrible, you know, stressed thing. That there are 346 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: people who love their careers, love their families, rock and 347 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: both hearing from our guests who are doing that as well. 348 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: So that's that's been exciting because it makes me feel 349 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: like we're you know, not just sharing strategies with people 350 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: who are already in the trenches, but you know, given 351 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: people a mindset that it might be different from some 352 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: of those stories they see out there. So I quite 353 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: like that. I think I would have enjoyed this podcast 354 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: ten years ago. Well, if we started it ten years ago, 355 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: we would have been oh my god, yes, absolutely, or 356 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: even five years ago. Get in on that podcast growth curve. 357 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's growing rapidly now, I mean 358 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 1: one of the like I've been meeting. We'll talk more 359 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: about this another episode, but I've been meeting a lot 360 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: of podcasters the past few and there's a lot of 361 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: people who are like, oh, I've done ten episodes or 362 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: I've done twenty episodes, like oh, we've already done fifty 363 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 1: five who who oh yeah, we're like old school guard. 364 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: Yeah oh except that. Yeah, no, that's so true. I 365 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: wish we had done this before. I will say once 366 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: I came up with the idea, well, we both had 367 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: the idea independently, but like I put it on the 368 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: blog one day and our podcast was born like a 369 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: month later. Like, I'm impressed with us at how quickly 370 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: we jumped on me. They are awesome on execution, So 371 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: that is that is good? Well cool. Yeah, so we've 372 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: we've had a really fun time at this. This has 373 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: been I mean a massive highlight of my year. I 374 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: you know, I have been really glad that we decided 375 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: to me too, me too. It's been a massive highlight 376 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: of going part time and then picking this up as 377 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: like a bizarre hobby slash part time. I don't even 378 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: know because again, not not really earning anything, but it's 379 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: really fun. And gaining the audience is really fun. And 380 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: talking to you guys and here from you guys and 381 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: thinking of these great topics and meeting these guests. It's 382 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: really it's pretty thrilling. Yeah, no, that's great. Well, so 383 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: we want to pivot now to the second half of 384 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: this episode. We're going to be talking about back to school. 385 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: Because we're airing in late August, lots of people are 386 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: sending their children back to school in the next two 387 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: to three weeks. And I got to say every year 388 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: I wind up getting a bunch of requests for you know, 389 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: interviews and stuff around this time that people are all 390 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: worried about their schedules, their time management, like how everything's 391 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: going to work out. They go back to school, and 392 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting to me. I mean, I you know, 393 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: I think it's become built up as this like crazy time. 394 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: I kind of like the build up though, like there's 395 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: something kind of fun and like barkley about it. I 396 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: think you like the school supplies, Yeah, that's actually yeah, 397 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: visions of like well even like we got the catalog 398 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: with like the backpacks in it, and I was like, ooh, 399 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: you guys can pick it back back like that that 400 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: stuff is doesn't get old for me, No, it doesn't. 401 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: I like my school supplies too. I will probably be 402 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: buying yet more pretty little notebooks because I love pretty 403 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: little notebooks. And you know, back in the day, it 404 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: was like so exciting when I could get a nice notebook, 405 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: and you know, now I have like I keep buying them. 406 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: And well you wrote that like when you know tip 407 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: you have is buy your own school supplies, that it's fun, 408 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: and I said, well, I bet my school supplies and 409 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: sixty five days of the year, so some of us 410 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: don't need like a special season for it. Every time 411 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: I do love that, I'm over and then I mean 412 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: that's still it's target. Like I haven't gone really high end, right, 413 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: so it's like a limited, you know kind of thing. 414 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: But I'm over there. I'm like, oh that's a pretty Nope. 415 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: I just you know, it's like ten bucks. I think 416 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: I could buy it, you know, then I do, and 417 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: then it's it's a simple pleasure. It's a simple pleasure. 418 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: But I have not had many brilliant thoughts to fill 419 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: all these beautiful little notebooks. So I'm not really sure 420 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: whatever that's okay about that so yeah, back to school 421 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: hacks that horrible word talk about your your You have 422 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: a spreadsheet, I have to tell us about the spreadsheet. 423 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: So I have the activity spreadsheet and it is really 424 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: it's my time tracking spreadsheet. So if we have anyone 425 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: here who has downloaded my time tracking spreadsheet or you 426 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: know whatever, it's just excel like it's not crazy, but 427 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: it is the one hundred and sixty eight hours of 428 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: a week in half hour blocks. It goes from five 429 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: am Monday to five am Monday, with the days of 430 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: the week across the top, half hour blocks across the left, 431 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: and so you've got three hundred and thirty six cells. 432 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: And I have actually mapped out the children's activities onto 433 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: this spreadsheet because it allows me to see at a glance, 434 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: like if a day has too much on it, then 435 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: maybe we need to try to get in a different 436 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: session of gymnastics as opposed to like the Tuesday one. Right, 437 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: so maybe you sign up for the Thursday one instead 438 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: of the Tuesday one because the kids have these activities 439 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: on Tuesday which are only offered on Tuesdays. So then 440 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, we shouldn't sign up for extra stuff on Tuesday. 441 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: It also helps us get into a rhythm. We do 442 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: have some activities like karate, which are is offered like 443 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: six days a week each of the children's levels. There's 444 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: there are classes six days a week. You can come 445 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: to whichever one you want, but it's helpful to keep 446 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: going to the same one just because than that in 447 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: you less confused is today the day or is not today? 448 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: You want to get into some sort of rhythm with it, 449 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: but so you can sort of assign that on it, 450 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, we can see what's going on in the weekend. 451 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: It's also helped me in terms of you know, last year, 452 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: I was really good about I was leaving one afternoon free, 453 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: so I said, it was okay that we're going to 454 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: be a little bit busier on other days, but Wednesday 455 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: was going to be open, like we weren't going to 456 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: have activities in and that way I knew it was 457 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: always open for playdays, so the kids could just come 458 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: home and relax and not have to go anywhere if 459 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: they didn't want to. It was also a day then 460 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: that I could definitely work later, which there's something to 461 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: be said for that because often I wind up doing 462 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: some of the driving and we have help with the driving. 463 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: So it's not like I'm doing all the driving because 464 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: I go with four a lot of times that you 465 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: still need to you still need two drivers, which then 466 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: I have to have another driver if I'm gone, you know, 467 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: my husband's on here. So that was a goal to 468 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: have sort of Wednesday and Friday sort of off as 469 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: much as possible, and then be very busy Monday, Tuesday 470 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: and Thursday. And yeah, but I got to say the 471 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: spreadsheet has been helpful. It makes me, you know, it 472 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: seems doable, and that I could share the spreadsheet with 473 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: anyone else who needs to see the spreadsheet. Well, I 474 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: saved my so I do like the same thing, but 475 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: I draw it out. I mean it's essentially the same thing, 476 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: and it like shows like each day and after school 477 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: where they are, because that's sometimes hard to keep track, 478 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: like which room you have to pick up on after 479 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: school activities and in the times. Yeah, it's super helpful, 480 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: and I will I actually save one. I don't want 481 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: to give like my new one because then everyone could 482 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: like stalk my kids. But I saved the one from 483 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: last year, so you can. I can share that with 484 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: them stock exactly, they won't be able to find them. Yeah, 485 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: so I Yeah, I definitely think putting it all down 486 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: so you can see it in one place and see 487 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: each day and what's overlapping and what's not is really important. 488 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: It's less to juggle for us, obviously because only two 489 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: of mine are old enough to really be doing any activities. 490 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: But I still am trying to keep things really streamlined 491 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: in that if I can put them in the same 492 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: place or have almost the same time pickup, then that's 493 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: what they're going to do. And I will say I'm 494 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: taking advantage of the fact that my four year old 495 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: is pretty like he likes everything. He's pretty easy going 496 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: at this stage, so you know, if there's a class 497 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: that makes logistic sense, then that's what he's going to 498 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: be taking. And I love the one day free thing. 499 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: We're going to try to have Fridays be off cool. Well, 500 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: that's a good day in general for that because then 501 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: you're sort of going into family time or you know, 502 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: some people you know have religious celebrations that they need 503 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: to wind down by Friday evening anyway, so that's a 504 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: good day for that. Definitely. Yeah, for us, it's like 505 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: movie night and like just you know rest and sometimes 506 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm off on Fridays, so you know, I could pick 507 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: them up and just be nice. Yeah. My other suggestion, 508 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: I said, go ahead and put your own activities on 509 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: the spreadsheet too, because you might see that actually you 510 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: can do it, like you have space for something that 511 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: you might want to do. What activities are you thinking about? Well, 512 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean I have mine already, is that I have 513 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: my choir on Thursday nights and it's not meeting during 514 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: the summer. So we've had a break from this now 515 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: and sort of tell and you know, my family to 516 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: kind of enjoy this time off from it, like I'm here, 517 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, unless I'm traveling, but you know, and also 518 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: then I'm not singing on Sunday morning. We've decided to 519 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: take the summer off from religion. Not really, we're not 520 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 1: going to church as regular in the summer, and that's 521 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: fine because they're not Sunday school anyway, so I would 522 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: be sitting like with all my kids in church, and 523 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: that's just well it might be you know, seasonality helps 524 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: because you you'll enter with more vigor, starting fresh, starting, 525 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: and so we're off from maybe organized religion in the summer, 526 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: where you know, yes, uh, so we'll start again in 527 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: the in the fall mid September, and I will have 528 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: Thursday nights and then Sunday mornings that I'm going to 529 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: try to. I want to get a little bit better 530 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: about making the kids come with me, because I think 531 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: they they should. I mean, I think, you know, meeting 532 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: friends through your house of worship is good because it's 533 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: not just the kids in your school, and then it's 534 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: on more positive environment. Yeah, like it's another community, other community. 535 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: The sixth is you know, they have a good middle 536 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: school thing, which I think is also great and so 537 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: he I think would actually enjoy it, like and plus 538 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: I think they have donuts every week, so I think 539 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: I might be able to talk that one up. But yeah, no, 540 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: so I put in my own activity of Thursday night, 541 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: and are you going to train for something like to do? Yeah, 542 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: I was saying, like my activity might be that I 543 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: pick a I might. I might do the Miami half 544 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: marathon again next January, so that means in the fall 545 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: I would start half half start training, So nothing too crazy. 546 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: And I'm in two book clubs, the parenting one and 547 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: the regular one. So yeah, that seems like a good 548 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: number of activities. I do your own activities. I mean 549 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: don't don't be so busy with your kids stuff that 550 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: you don't do your own stuff. I mean, thus is 551 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: the way of unhappy parenting. So make sure that your 552 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: life works with the kids' activity schedule too, which I'm 553 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying that, and I need to be 554 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: better about it myself. I do definitely feel like the 555 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: past year I have not I felt a little bit 556 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: stressed about some of my shortened work days due to activities, 557 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: which I think is not going to be improved as 558 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: the kids get into more stuff and want to do 559 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: more stuff, so I really need to do. But you've 560 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: also had a super successful year that it's true. I 561 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: mean I say like I've been earning more as I'm 562 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: working less. I don't think it's actually related, though it's 563 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: not all it's the same thing. It's that as I've 564 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: had more of the things that you know I've done 565 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: in the past payoff, that can pay off in terms 566 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: of not having to do as much. And then also, 567 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: and it's true, sometimes it doesn't matter what the output 568 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: is if you feel stressed about it in your life, 569 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: like if that week doesn't look like what you want 570 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: your week to look like, because you're always getting cut 571 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: off and you're always feeling rushed, then then it needs 572 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: to be looked at. No, it's not true. I want 573 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: to have some open space for ready, And partly that 574 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: may be about being better about scheduling calls to certain 575 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: times and meetings to certain times and leaving more open 576 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: times during other points. But you know, I mean, I 577 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: assume my middle schooler will have activities in the afternoon, 578 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: but he'll be home from school a lot earlier, so 579 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: that shortens it. On the other end, you know that 580 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: is you have a big transition you're going You were 581 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: talking about how one of your tips is that talking 582 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: to other parents about those transitions before that happened. And 583 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I love to get intel 584 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: from like older parents, the families with older kids, I 585 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: sort of I tend to love to grill them. Maybe 586 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: they get annoyed. You know what's the middle school like? 587 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: Did they like it any Oh? I don't. They might 588 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: always love to be asked stuff. But the idea that 589 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: they're the experts and you're asking for advice like that 590 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: is one of the most enjoyable human interactions of like, oh, 591 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: I'm telling you the ways of the world. Like people 592 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: love doing that. Well, I love to probe people in 593 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: that way. So but you know, I, yeah, I spent 594 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: much of my I went to like various things over 595 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: the last year of like fifth grade parents, and I 596 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: had asked the ones who were who had older children 597 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: that they, you know, the fifth grader was their their youngest, 598 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: you know what, They had their impressions of various things 599 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: in the community and programs at the middle school and 600 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: all this stuff, and you know, we the you know, 601 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: my eleven year old is starting this particular program in 602 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: middle school that he had to apply for, and there's 603 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: a multiple, multiple multi disciplinary program that was an emphasis 604 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: on art, which he really likes. But I wouldn't have 605 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: known to apply if you know, we hadn't talked to 606 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: other parents and had a sense that, oh, well, we 607 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: know that kid and know that that kid is somewhat 608 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: similar to ours, and you know, if it was a 609 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: good fit for them, we should do it too. So yeah, 610 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: that's we wouldn't have known it at all except for that, 611 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, there are a lot of sort of 612 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: between the lines types of things related to school and 613 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: school activities. You can't ease. It's not easily google able. 614 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: Stuff you know, yeah, you know, I liked your prot 615 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: a so Sarah, I had put a note with this too. 616 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, this is a pet peep of my 617 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 1: husband and I. So we have a lot of and 618 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: some of my friends are listening. So hi, No, I'm 619 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: just kidding. A lot of my friends have sent their 620 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: kids to private school for elementary and we go to 621 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: the public school. You have to be very careful if 622 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: you're doing that, not to make comments to sort of 623 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: like justify your choice by putting down another because you 624 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: can't because whether or not we chose public school because 625 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: it was cheaper or because we felt it was the 626 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: best choice, we would feel bad, right because either if 627 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: we can't afford that echelon that you're talking about, or 628 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: if like there's somehow implying that we made a stupid decision, 629 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: it's like there's no way to win. So you can 630 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: talk about being happy with your choice, I suppose, but 631 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: you have to be very careful with that particular conversation territory. 632 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, or I mean, you know, or even 633 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: if you're at you know your kids are in the 634 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: public so you don't be like, oh, we would never 635 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: send our kids to private school, only like creating right right, 636 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 1: I mean no here, but often you know, when we've 637 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: chosen certain things for our kids because we think it 638 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: is the best option, but it's high, like you can't 639 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: like it's such a high I don't know how to 640 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: put this, Like it's a you know, people put a 641 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: lot of thought into those choices, like it's probably not 642 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: something that they did lightly. So it can feel very insulting. 643 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: If if if, if if if someone I don't know, 644 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: just gives a negation of slant to what you've done. 645 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: Probably very thoughtful. Yeah, it just always PRIMISEU, Well, we 646 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: thought it was right for our kid. Where our Yeah, 647 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: and that's fine because that doesn't mean something else isn't 648 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: right for another kid. And you know, we're all trying 649 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: to do the best. So and I will say that 650 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: most people are very thoughtful in that conversation. I've just 651 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: been stuck in a few kind of group convos where 652 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: it felt awkward. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Another tip we had 653 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,959 Speaker 1: designate a launching spot, so in our house, all shoes, backpacks, 654 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: and coats go in the same place and they never leave, 655 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: Like there is no taking your backpack up to your room, 656 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: Like stuff can come out of the backpack, but then 657 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: it needs to go right back in if it needs 658 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: to be returned to school. For instance. Your coat also 659 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: cannot go up to your room. Your shoes cannot go 660 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: up to your room. They all have to be in 661 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: the mudroom because you know, once one kid's shoes or 662 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: in some other part of the house, like it's game over, 663 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: like we're late for the bus or for you know, 664 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: taking someone to school in the morning. So yeah, we 665 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: have no mudroom. Definitely more the urban lifestyle here, but 666 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: we have a bookshelf and that is our mudroom. We 667 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,239 Speaker 1: also don't have coats, so there you go. So all 668 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: the backpacks school in this one shelf and it's like 669 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: a I agree, launching pad all the way. Yeah, but 670 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: because that we I mean knock on wood. But we 671 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: never missed the bus last year, so that was good. 672 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: That's amazing, amazing. I didn't stress much. I actually sort 673 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: of outsourced my son. It didn't matter if he's on time. 674 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: He's preschool. My daughter was in kindergarten and they're pretty sticklers. 675 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: I kind of told her nanny, I hope that she'd 676 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: be on time every day, and she did an amazing job. 677 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: And I never worried about it, and I felt like, 678 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: you know what, if she was late, fine, Actually, I 679 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: take it back. I worried about it earlier in the year, 680 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: and then towards the spring I sort of decided that 681 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: I could not worry about it and it would be fine. 682 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: And it was. Yeah, probably being late to kindergarten. It's 683 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: not the world's biggest problem. Probably not. You know, people 684 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: are always asking about lunches. I guess lunch lunch packing 685 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: is a we As soon as our kids are able 686 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: to buy school lunch, we have them. I put my note. 687 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: Somebody recently called it hot lunch to me, which I love, 688 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: like it's, oh, the kids get a hot lunch. Because 689 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: some people there's sometimes some negative discussion of school lunch, 690 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: which I say, most places have gotten a lot better 691 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: since you were a kid. If you're listening to this 692 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: and you're in our sort of target age demographic, it's 693 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: definitely improved since the Sloppy Joes of I'm still I mean, 694 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: this is where you know, this podcast is different voices 695 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: and different opinions. Sometimes I'm not quite as sould on it, 696 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: but I think I agree. It's one meal out of 697 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: the day. So if your kids like it and they'll 698 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: eat it, and they prefer that then and it's easier 699 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: go for it. I've gone the other easy route, which 700 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: is again I sort of earned any preps the lunch 701 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: from our leftovers most nights, and our kids are younger, 702 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: so I'm less likely to get a lot of pushback. 703 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure at some point, although our daughter is that 704 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to buy the lunch. It looks yucky. 705 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: So there you go. We can use up leftovers and 706 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: I kind of know what she's eating, which I like. 707 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: We can see too that actually we can see you know, Yes, 708 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: I love that, so you know they're not I've heard that, 709 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: like it's you know, they're not just eating chips for 710 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: lunch or something like that. Yeah, I also like the 711 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: idea of them making a selection, like you know that 712 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: this is and kids can make their own lunches too, 713 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: by the way, you know this is. Yeah, that can 714 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: very easily and they have motivation to do it in 715 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: the sense that then they get stuff that they like. 716 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: So you know, as soon as the kids might be 717 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: capable of all of that, sort of supervise them doing it. 718 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, you definitely can have them start to take 719 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: that on, although I love that. So you packed bread 720 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: for your son at a Jewish school during pass ever, well, 721 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: you know, our nanny packed bread and I didn't tell 722 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: her not to pack it bread, So it is absolutely 723 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: my fault. But I literally got a phone call that 724 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: was a little bit more defying. They're like, has bread? 725 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: We are at the unleavened days these Yeah, They're like, 726 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: we gave them some mots and I'm like thanks, because 727 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: obviously we don't keep Passover, so that was, Yeah, that 728 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: was a little embarrassing, but we do. We do pack 729 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: lunches every day. Put major school dates on your calendar 730 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: as soon as you get them. My guess is that 731 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: your school district has probably published dates for this upcoming 732 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: school year. They probably had them out as of like 733 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: the end of the yeah, January, I think or December exactly. 734 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: How that they tend to approve the dates for the 735 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: next year well in advance, so you could pretty soon 736 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: the ones for twenty nineteen twenty twenty will be out, 737 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: So you might want to get those on your calendar 738 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: ahead of time, because then you know, you know to 739 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: ask for say spring break off or what the particular 740 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, holiday winter break is so once you know 741 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: these things, you can you know if you're going to 742 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: absolutely for us, it's key. Yeah, it's key because we 743 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: have to do our call schedules for twenty nineteen. So yeah, 744 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: I almost need I almost need fall of twenty nineteen 745 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: as well. I don't have that yet, but I mean, 746 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: obviously there's some flexibility there. But yeah, spring break, vacations, 747 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: other kind of stuff. Usually the school of the availability 748 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: of the school calendar kind of triggers us to do 749 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: one of our couple of yearly planning summits where we 750 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: figure out what vacations we want to take and kind 751 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: of big picture what holidays we want to work and 752 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: don't want to work, and whether you want to have 753 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: another baby, right, Like, that's another of your summing decisions. 754 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: I can already tell you the answer to that one. No, 755 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: at least at least right now, No, I think for real. Yeah, 756 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: all right, Well, speaking of having multiple kids and the 757 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: logistics of that, you know, so the reminder on homework 758 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: and school projects, that, yeah, tell me how that works, 759 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: because you know, right now I'm in that I have 760 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: one in kindergartens or one going into first grade. So 761 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: last year I just had one kid. That had homework, 762 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: and the parents in her class definitely seem to be 763 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: giving the homework a lot of attention. Like sometimes I 764 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: would get a what's up thing from a parent that's like, 765 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: what's the answer to number seven? I'm like, wow, this 766 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: was that I did not really do a lot of 767 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: the homework. Our nanny helped Annabelle with her homework and 768 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 1: it was fine and if she got something wrong, that's okay, 769 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: because that's, in my opinion, part of the point of homework. 770 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: And it definitely made me think when I had Genevieve, like, oh, 771 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: there's no way I'm going to be micromanaging, you know, 772 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: my six year old's homework when I also at that 773 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: point it will have a twelve year old in the 774 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: ten year old, Like, everyone's going to have to be 775 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: their own homework at our house, and as they should, 776 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: because you have already been through fifth grade. So it's 777 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: not testing you, it's not making sure that you know 778 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 1: this stuff. It's it's about your kids. Yeah. So my 779 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: general thought is the kids are responsible for it, and 780 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 1: if they forget it, they forget it. If they don't 781 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: do it, they have you know, I can remind them, 782 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: but on some level, it's they're the ones who are 783 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 1: going to have to, you know, answer to their teacher. 784 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: And how about the age old I left my thing 785 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: at home, mom, can you bring it in? So in general, 786 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: we you know, try to think about that before you 787 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: leave as much as possible. We've brought lunches that have 788 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: been forgotten for you know, the kindergartnener had to have 789 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: lunch because there wasn't Oh yeah, be hungry. Yeah, I mean, 790 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: it's I I really think. I mean, the point of 791 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: school is preparing students to be respond possible and independent citizens. 792 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: And so again, you know, I've already been through fifth grade. 793 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: It's not about whether I know how to do. It's 794 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 1: interesting because we got some homework for kindergarten that would 795 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: require reading, like in the beginning of the year to 796 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: decipher the homework, but the kids weren't reading yet, So 797 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean to some extent, I mean, and my sister 798 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: in law, who's a wonderful teacher, she kind of encourages 799 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: parental involvement in the homework, not the parents are doing 800 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: the homework. But then at the same time, the more 801 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: kids you have and the more you're working outside the home. 802 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: I just wonder how how realistic that is. And I 803 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: do want to to try to be supportive, but I 804 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: think homework is going to have to be for the kids. 805 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: We'll see how that you've always as they get older. Well, 806 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: and we definitely talk about you know, you do your 807 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: homework first, like okay, we do ask like do you 808 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: have homework? Okay, but you have it assigned weekly, you 809 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: know my generals, And I don't want you to leave 810 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: it to Thursday night. That's because it comes up. And 811 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: also I have a choir Thursday night. So I'm not 812 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: going to be able to deal with anything if you 813 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: discover that there's something you don't understand, So do it 814 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: earlier in the week, do it before where you do 815 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 1: video games to it, you know, that kind of thing. 816 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, I I'm also trying to teach the idea 817 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: of go back and check your work, which is also 818 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: not an intuitive skill necessarily for everyone. But yeah, no, 819 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: it's uh. I think, don't stress about all this stuff, 820 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: and you'll be in a routine. In the first few 821 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: weeks you're figuring out a new routine, but you'll figure 822 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: it out. You know. Any individual homework assignment is not 823 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: the end of the world, you know, your kids will 824 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: be fine, They'll figure it out, so relax, try to 825 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: enjoy it. All that kind stuff. All right, you can 826 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: buy a new backpack y, speaking of backpacks, speaking of yes, 827 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: our Q. This is a very quick Q and A 828 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: because this has been a long episode already. Uh well, 829 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: hopefully hopefully somebody's commute really well. I got this on 830 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: Instagram said, I'm a PhD student and desperately need an 831 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: alternative to the backpack. I'm getting confused for an undergrad 832 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: and can't seem to wear a dress in the backpack 833 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: at the same time. So I just want to to 834 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: give this person permission to go ahead and move on 835 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: from the backpack. And I will say, like, I've seen 836 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: myself in the mirror with my bag that I have 837 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: right now, which I really love, and I'm like, that 838 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: bag really makes me look much more impressive than I 839 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: otherwise would look. Well, definitely when you like walking around 840 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: the hospital one hundred percent. I mean it really makes 841 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: the outfit to have a fairly professional looking bag. And 842 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,720 Speaker 1: I am currently am really obsessed with my low tough 843 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: work bag and now also tote that I used to 844 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,439 Speaker 1: carry around my pump, which has been like the one 845 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: thing I like about pumping is I get to carry 846 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: around this really pretty extra bag. But of course there 847 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: are all kinds of options. I think the leather or 848 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: vegan leather kind of looks are a little bit more professional. 849 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 1: I think the sort of doctor's bag style just that 850 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: sort of you know, big enough for a laptop, but 851 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 1: also with some three dimensionality to it can be very 852 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: professional looking and practical. Zip tops are awesome. I have 853 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: that for my work bag, and I think it's you know, 854 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: if you can invest in a bag that you really 855 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: like that looks professional. I always think bags and coats 856 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: like they last a really long time. You literally have 857 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: them on your person every single day. They can bring 858 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: together your sort of entire presentation. Those are the things 859 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: to invest on. Yeah, definitely you want like a tote 860 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: bag that is big enough for your laptop, I think 861 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: is what you know, especially since she is still in 862 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: school and she's probably working in different places and carrying 863 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: it around, that that has been key. So my purse 864 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: bag is a tote bag that is it's coach. It's 865 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: this baby blue color and it's big enough for my laptop. 866 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: And so that's what I have is my carry one 867 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: of my carry ons when I get on the plane, 868 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: which has been key, Like I wouldn't want to have 869 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 1: a purse that I then couldn't use as something to carry, 870 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: you know, the laptop, And definitely try them on and 871 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: find one that kind of cradles on your arm well, 872 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: because you know, there are bags that are more comfortable 873 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: than others, and I find that that makes a difference 874 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: of whether I'm pleased to carry it around and sling 875 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: it from the card it's a work, or whether I 876 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: find just annoying wish I was carrying it back back. Yeah, 877 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: all right, so time to trade up new bag for 878 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: our student here is wanting to look more professional. So 879 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: love of the week, what's your love of the week? Well, 880 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: we could both have this love of the week agains. Yeah, okay, 881 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: our love of the week is this podcast. I'll just 882 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: say that the love of the week is this podcast. 883 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: It's been so fun and we really enjoy it and 884 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: we are greatly hoping that this is something that continues. 885 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: And again look for our survey coming your way soon. 886 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 1: You can always connect with us through Laura's blog she 887 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: does a weekly post, or the Instagram Best of Both 888 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: Worlds podcasts on insta and if you're actually wanting to 889 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: shuffle through episodes, you can actually go to Best of 890 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: worldspodcast dot com and they're all listed there. This has 891 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: been our back to school and anniversary episode number fifty five. 892 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: Tune in next week for yet more another starting another year, 893 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: on how to make work in life fit together. Thanks 894 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: for listening. You can find me Sarah at the shoebox 895 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, and 896 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 1: you can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. 897 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: This has been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please 898 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: join us next time for more on making work and 899 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: life work together.