Speaker 1: On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, we talk roster
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Speaker 1: it and all the positions we were talking about.
Speaker 2: And then Fred, we're talking good Will of Wars. Right,
Speaker 2: it all starts right now.
Speaker 1: Welcome to The Command Center Podcast. People's Choice Podcast Award nominee.
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Speaker 1: we got a full we're kind of getting back into
Speaker 1: our regular season content deal here, right. So on Monday
Speaker 1: we got the Booth Review with Bram and I was
Speaker 1: instructed specifically not to say London Fletcher, but say Big
Speaker 1: Fletch Big Flitch, which is apparently his alter ego bet Flitch.
Speaker 2: Couple man fat like that you're gonna get you three
Speaker 2: months break.
Speaker 1: So that's awesome because that's our that's our.
Speaker 2: Dude. He that's time I was with you. Did I
Speaker 2: tell you the story.
Speaker 1: Last time we were hanging out, you were talking all
Speaker 1: this mess to Fletching goes. He comes to me like
Speaker 1: all serious and goes, let's jump him.
Speaker 2: I was like yeah, I was like yeah, I was
Speaker 2: like trying to jump me.
Speaker 1: And you know how he gets that look in his
Speaker 1: eye like he was still playing. Yeah, And I was like,
Speaker 1: are you beat serious right now?
Speaker 3: You didn't know if he was there, Let's go get him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's our that's our game day radio broadcast crew.
Speaker 1: And then they have an awesome insight you know from
Speaker 1: the booth. That's all we're doing it that way. Great name,
Speaker 1: do you figure out that name?
Speaker 2: Jason?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jason, great job to applause.
Speaker 2: Great name.
Speaker 1: So obviously makes you check that show out. That's a
Speaker 1: podcast where you get your podcast or it's in the
Speaker 1: command centers in you two feet where is it? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: it'll be on our channel, but also on their own
Speaker 1: uh their own podcast thing. So make sure you check
Speaker 1: that out. Then we got Tuesday. You gotta get loud.
Speaker 2: With the best podcast of all time?
Speaker 3: Me and Michael Jenkins and were talking everything you don't
Speaker 3: let nothing go.
Speaker 1: How are you gonna say that's the best podcast.
Speaker 2: We're We're not.
Speaker 3: I found a city with a name that nobody knew existed.
Speaker 3: We have nerds, like, we bounced off culture, We talked sports.
Speaker 1: What's what's the city?
Speaker 2: Who found?
Speaker 1: Did you find that? Or ant the producer?
Speaker 3: I found that because you know, I got these things
Speaker 3: that I followed that it's just all facts, like we.
Speaker 2: This fact is nobody.
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, what do they call themselves?
Speaker 3: Because I'm from Jackson, we called ourselves jack Tonians and
Speaker 3: they call themselves ship Tonians.
Speaker 4: That's so they all would yeah, basically yes.
Speaker 1: And then we watched we watched a video about it
Speaker 1: about how like it was based on a latrein and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. It's real because like I initially thought,
Speaker 1: for those of you watching at home, that it was
Speaker 1: a kind of a mispronunciation.
Speaker 2: You thought I did it because it was the Europe Well.
Speaker 1: Also you mispronounced yeah, So I thought maybe that's what's
Speaker 1: going on here. And then there's this like professor of
Speaker 1: London City and he's got this British accident. He's like shitterton,
Speaker 1: you know, and you're like, okay, that's how they say,
Speaker 1: and they.
Speaker 2: Keep stealing the sign that's the whole thing. That's how found.
Speaker 3: Oh really, no, that's how found because anytime they put
Speaker 3: the sign up, somebody steals it. So then they said,
Speaker 3: you know what, they made a big old rock and
Speaker 3: carved the name in the rock because nobody.
Speaker 2: Could pick up a two ton of rock. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: they be on one.
Speaker 1: Did you imagine being in like the budget meeting for
Speaker 1: that being like, hey, people keep stealing the signs, and
Speaker 1: it's like, let's just make it really heavy.
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm.
Speaker 4: Probably trying to do them a favor because no one
Speaker 4: wants to ride and say see that sign like welcome to.
Speaker 3: No I want to take Like if I had a wife,
Speaker 3: I'd be like, let's go vacation.
Speaker 2: Where are we going?
Speaker 5: So that rock is a literal?
Speaker 2: Yes is man? We're like five years old?
Speaker 1: Yeah, ridiculous.
Speaker 2: All right, these things you love them? Yeah.
Speaker 1: So and that's that's on the Get Loud podcast with
Speaker 1: Fret Smooth and Michael Jenkins. They do a great job obviously,
Speaker 1: and like you said, this this is more of the
Speaker 1: conversation you'll have on that show. And then we got
Speaker 1: Thursday The Player's Club with London not Big Fletch. Sean
Speaker 1: Springs is doing this with you now. And then obviously
Speaker 1: our favorite is Sa Tanamous.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got blue Foot. We added blue Foot. He
Speaker 4: cried to be a part of it, so you know
Speaker 4: we blues.
Speaker 2: You guys are I mean nominated. We had to let
Speaker 2: him in exactly, I know, to go ahead again y'all already.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, is he gonna mess the mojo up? Like,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that real quick. Are you worried about
Speaker 1: it messing the mojo up?
Speaker 4: I know, I don't think so. I think Bluefoot is.
Speaker 4: I did a couple so with him before before he
Speaker 4: came over to this side, and he's well spoken, so
Speaker 4: you know, he's one of those guys good. It's probably
Speaker 4: gonna add enough to what we already have that make
Speaker 4: us that much more better.
Speaker 1: And so this week you got to leave him alone.
Speaker 2: That's my boy.
Speaker 4: I love. I named him Blue.
Speaker 2: He is getting like white backed. Listen, he doesn't look
Speaker 2: like a cornerback. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: He looks like we have a reunion and everybody look
Speaker 6: around him be like this blue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy used to.
Speaker 1: Be naming and so this week John Allen's on there,
Speaker 1: so that's kind of cool and it's kind of like
Speaker 1: this late night talk show vibe, which would be fun
Speaker 1: and yeah, because so yeah, make sure you guys check
Speaker 1: that out and the players and then Friday we have again.
Speaker 1: These are all of our in season shows. They're coming back.
Speaker 1: We got Brian Colbert Junior. He's doing an interview with
Speaker 1: Jane Daniels and Doug Williams.
Speaker 2: That seems like a good misshup right there. I was
Speaker 2: gonna say, that's the future in the past. It seems
Speaker 2: like a.
Speaker 1: Show if you if you want to be a Commanders fan,
Speaker 1: I would definitely check. I check all these out, but
Speaker 1: that one for sure that.
Speaker 3: They're gonna do an episode with me and a man
Speaker 3: you will Phillips, I think probably will?
Speaker 2: Why not? Why not?
Speaker 1: But then you got to talk to Brian and you
Speaker 1: can and nobody, I mean no one wants no I'm
Speaker 1: not like historical enough.
Speaker 2: You get like.
Speaker 1: Thank you, I thank you. Guys are so nice to me.
Speaker 1: All right, So that's it. So it makes you check
Speaker 1: out all those shows. And when's our main show on Jason?
Speaker 1: Is it Thursday? The Command Center Show. Yeah, Thursday, the
Speaker 1: Command Center Show you two makes you guys check it out.
Speaker 1: We are here in season full content for you guys.
Speaker 1: Makes you check it all out.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So, now I was reading something online the other day
Speaker 1: and I saw that some flag football guy I don't
Speaker 1: remember his name, ye said that he was well, said
Speaker 1: that he was better than Patrick Mahomes. And I just
Speaker 1: wanted to get your quick, high level thought on whether
Speaker 1: or not you think he's actually better than Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 4: I think you got to understand what he was but
Speaker 4: he was trying to say. He was trying to say.
Speaker 4: He was saying that if he had to compare hisself
Speaker 4: at what he does football player, he would say he's
Speaker 4: the best in the game, so he would be better.
Speaker 4: That he would be like a Patrick Mahons, better than
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes. And you know, and when people, especially today,
Speaker 4: when it comes to social media and all the different
Speaker 4: new you know, everybody has a voice now when it
Speaker 4: comes to you know, sports and stuff like that of
Speaker 4: that nature. They took it and it ran, so I
Speaker 4: get it, but it was too much of the Patrick
Speaker 4: Mahons talk than just him saying, hey man, I'm the
Speaker 4: best in the game, the best at flag football. No
Speaker 4: one could do what I do. And I have to
Speaker 4: be honest. When you watch that sport, it's different from
Speaker 4: what we do. Play a couple of times totally different
Speaker 4: ball games. So that's why guys like himself have that
Speaker 4: kind of mantra about what they do because they know, look,
Speaker 4: you guys play tackle football, but over here, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm King of the Hill, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So you know, hey, it reminds us.
Speaker 3: That reminds us of the game we play every year
Speaker 3: with Congress. Yeah, we played the flag the police officer
Speaker 3: talk smack and the Capitol police abuses us because they
Speaker 3: put me in try.
Speaker 2: We haven't won a game yet. We ain't meet them yet.
Speaker 3: And we ain't meet them yet because they run and
Speaker 3: play and they're doing it because they do this weekend
Speaker 3: and week out. I got the I got a guy,
Speaker 3: the congressman from Maine is our quarterback. He's seventy years old.
Speaker 3: He dropping back throwing picks. So I understand what the
Speaker 3: guys trying to say. He said, you know what pro
Speaker 3: football is your life, but this is mine and this
Speaker 3: ain't pro football.
Speaker 2: And then this, because I had to talk about.
Speaker 3: It on, don't get loud, And at first I snapped, like,
Speaker 3: come on, man, don't do that. Don't disrespect, But then
Speaker 3: I thought about it. He didn't say I can beat
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes in the league. He say, I'm basically the
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes of this flag football, So I give him
Speaker 3: that respect. I apologize to you, my brother, and never
Speaker 3: played flag football with a congressman.
Speaker 1: Serious, I was about to say, because I coached. I
Speaker 1: coach high school football, which is tackle football, no mores,
Speaker 1: and even that's a little bit different than the NFL
Speaker 1: because the hushes are different. And then I've also coached
Speaker 1: flag football because my son's ten, so coached his team.
Speaker 1: And the way the field spaces in flag football is
Speaker 1: so different and how fast stuff happens because there's no
Speaker 1: offensive line, you're not really taking a drop. It's way
Speaker 1: way different. So I could see why he's saying that
Speaker 1: because it's a different I think it's important knowledge it's
Speaker 1: a different game. Although I wonder like, because Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: is such a special thrower of the football, he would.
Speaker 2: Be lightning in a bottle in flag food.
Speaker 1: Because he could touch the field in a way that.
Speaker 2: A lot of those guys in the way that it
Speaker 2: works with him.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing about Patrick Mahomes is
Speaker 1: like the arm angles, like his arm talent is so good.
Speaker 3: Like baseball, he cares, he grabs a football like a
Speaker 3: baseball and desa EVENUZI.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think obviously there's a physical skill set
Speaker 1: there that he has that I think would be great
Speaker 1: aut But yeah, I get what he's saying. And like,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people just take NFL guys
Speaker 1: to put him in flag football.
Speaker 3: It's not like Kirk Cousins would not be good play.
Speaker 3: But Lamar Jackson crushing maybe.
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, Tyreek Hill, they like, they would kill it.
Speaker 1: Space fighters, space fighters.
Speaker 4: Guys that come maneuver and work their hips and do
Speaker 4: certain things of that nature. You know, they woul kill
Speaker 4: that league because.
Speaker 2: They don't do great worry abou football.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I played a lot growing up, and
Speaker 4: I was ain't know so crazy about it. I'm going
Speaker 4: to give you a short story when we played. When
Speaker 4: I played the defensive side, I would play either safety
Speaker 4: or the end because the rush, you can rush and
Speaker 4: you're just throwing your hand up in the way and
Speaker 4: then now they tuck in trying to run out your
Speaker 4: way and you fast. So it's always fun. Man. But
Speaker 4: that's why I got it. I get what. I got
Speaker 4: what he was saying different from the door, because it's
Speaker 4: just one of those things. He was trying to make
Speaker 4: an analogy of a great player, but he just kind of.
Speaker 1: Got got people.
Speaker 2: He take it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, take you something, Jason, you gotta take right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I'm going to compare a different sport here. But
Speaker 5: I used to play softball. You know how you have
Speaker 5: beer league softballs or whatnot. And we had a guy
Speaker 5: join our team who just retired from uh baseball, baseball
Speaker 5: but minor league, but high level minor league. And he's like,
Speaker 5: I'll play softball with you guys, And we were like, oh,
Speaker 5: we're going to clean up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: It legitimately took him like two seasons to figure out
Speaker 5: the difference between a softball and a baseball, really, because
Speaker 5: all you would do.
Speaker 2: Is pop it.
Speaker 5: You would pop it up four hundred feet straight up. Yeah,
Speaker 5: because he just couldn't figure out the timing. You think
Speaker 5: it would be easier, but it's not. Now once you
Speaker 5: figured it.
Speaker 2: Out, yeah, yeah, watch out.
Speaker 3: Oh but they just like tennis. I used to love tennis,
Speaker 3: but my feet won't let me play it no more.
Speaker 4: But then you go.
Speaker 2: Try to pick a ball. Yes, totally different, and it's
Speaker 2: it's it's a.
Speaker 1: Difference to it where the ball comes. And I think
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's like there are levels to it,
Speaker 1: like college football is different than probably football, right, flag
Speaker 1: football is different. So understanding that nuance, I think makes
Speaker 1: his statement a little bit more clear. All right, So
Speaker 1: in addition to flag football conversation, we have real football
Speaker 1: to talk about, right. Obviously, the fifty three man roster
Speaker 1: just came out, and we're all really excited about the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Washington commanders, and obviously Dan quick and
Speaker 1: and Adam Peters has been very clear that this is
Speaker 1: subject to change. Right, it's lots of Yeah, it's yes,
Speaker 1: it's fluid. Maybe it's the word.
Speaker 2: Fluid, Yeah, fluid.
Speaker 1: You said fluid as if I if you're.
Speaker 2: Fluid? What did he say?
Speaker 4: Hey, I know what he said fluid as it because
Speaker 4: he was fluent.
Speaker 1: Is like it's I'm fluent in a language and I.
Speaker 2: Know it in fluid. Yeah, it's like fluid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's a fluid changing that's.
Speaker 2: What I said. I was like, fluid, but my tongue.
Speaker 1: You didn't do a lot of talking last night. You
Speaker 1: were at the stadium for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun fantasy football.
Speaker 1: So and so kind of talking about this fluidy, I
Speaker 1: thought we should talk about a couple of different tools
Speaker 1: that they've viewed, because I heard, like all these terms
Speaker 1: get thrown around, right like, oh, guys on PUP, but
Speaker 1: guy's on IR, he's on IR designated a return and
Speaker 1: so like what the different things mean, So let's talk
Speaker 1: about POP and this a little bit confusing, but PUP
Speaker 1: basically you gotta be on the list.
Speaker 4: So you actually have to be hurt though.
Speaker 1: So you don't, you do, but like there are ways
Speaker 1: to fudget. So like what I'd say is like, so
Speaker 1: on cut day right, which was yes, or which was Tuesday?
Speaker 1: Right on cut day, I can either put you to
Speaker 1: i R or cut you, or you make the team, right,
Speaker 1: those are the three avenues. I cannot put you on
Speaker 1: the PUP list that day. It has to have to
Speaker 1: be on the list already. And it kind of works
Speaker 1: the same way because it's taking an injured player and
Speaker 1: protects them until until week for six weeks, so the
Speaker 1: seventh week they could potentially play, right, that's it.
Speaker 7: You have to already have to be off for six
Speaker 7: weeks though, Yes, is on the pup because he's already
Speaker 7: hurt and I didn't know he was hurt Beckham in Miami.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so that's so. And then for us, Felbot
Speaker 1: is on the pup. So he's a guy that is
Speaker 1: not going to count against the roster. He doesn't count
Speaker 1: against the salary cap, but he could come back later
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 4: And I do they get paid? Why they on a puff?
Speaker 4: You get paid, yes, and it doesn't count against the rust.
Speaker 1: It doesn't count against the cat cap. Yes, so that's pup.
Speaker 1: I are, I can on the day of cuts designate
Speaker 1: you to IR. So a good example that is Jordan McGee, Right,
Speaker 1: he was like, maybe he's gonna be healthy, Maybe not right,
Speaker 1: so we put him on IR and he is also
Speaker 1: designated short term I are, which I think is four weeks.
Speaker 1: In the fifth week he could return to play. So
Speaker 1: it's really the same mechanism. But you got to be
Speaker 1: on the thing already.
Speaker 4: No, not a question that most of these people who
Speaker 4: listening to this wild acts. If Jordan McGee gets off
Speaker 4: week four ready to play by week five to someone.
Speaker 2: We have to release.
Speaker 4: Someone have to get released.
Speaker 1: Yes, we have to release the same thing with the
Speaker 1: pup too. If if that guy comes off the pup,
Speaker 1: you have a couple of.
Speaker 4: Weeks to make a decision demote that person to the
Speaker 4: practice squad.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, practice squad you can't.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing about this is again, this is
Speaker 1: where it gets a little bit complicated. To get a
Speaker 1: guy practice squad, you have to put the you have
Speaker 1: to release.
Speaker 4: Them, release them first.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so obviously in the case of Jordan McGee,
Speaker 1: you probably won't want to do that. No, probably would
Speaker 1: move somebody else. But in the short term, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the advantage of this gives us. Right, So because
Speaker 1: fa about is on the pup, because Jordan McGee's on IR,
Speaker 1: that allows you to keep two extra players for six weeks. Right, So,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like name your player dominque Campton.
Speaker 3: Maybe come on, if we got seven eight safeties, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's something, it's something there.
Speaker 1: So that's a way to keep two good football players
Speaker 1: in your program while they're hurt and keep two more.
Speaker 1: So it's it's a good tool to kind of manipulate
Speaker 1: and move the roster around. So just want to touch
Speaker 1: on that because I know a lot of people ask
Speaker 1: me like, what's pup, what's I ar?
Speaker 2: What's I sort?
Speaker 1: They're just tools to help you manage the roster around injury,
Speaker 1: give you more time. Yes, what is for? Absolutely? So okay,
Speaker 1: So now let's talk about the roster, the actual roster,
Speaker 1: and so let's start with this. Is there anybody that
Speaker 1: makes you to go wow, like they made the team?
Speaker 2: You're or and Wilson. Let me see what you got.
Speaker 4: It's so good.
Speaker 3: You look like or Wilson and you and Wilson is great.
Speaker 3: You know my guy, I called him out when we
Speaker 3: picked him up as a free agent, a college free
Speaker 3: agent coach and Yank all, dude, it's just with something
Speaker 3: about him.
Speaker 2: Like me myself, I love versat the players. If you
Speaker 2: tell me a.
Speaker 3: Guy played quarterback in high school and running back and
Speaker 3: now he's a tight end, it's tell me he just
Speaker 3: has an insight on how to play this game. So
Speaker 3: I was like to myself, it's gonna be hard to
Speaker 3: cut this guy.
Speaker 2: He's gonna find.
Speaker 3: A way to weasele himself onto this roster because he
Speaker 3: does too many.
Speaker 2: Things good and he has done that.
Speaker 3: I know if we go back three months from I
Speaker 3: mean ago, and you look at his name, coach and
Speaker 3: yank Off. Nobody would have picked him to make this team.
Speaker 3: Nobody but me. Like the gym from the Stars, nobody
Speaker 3: but me.
Speaker 1: I think I'm telling to do back and check to take.
Speaker 1: But I think we were You and I and Fred.
Speaker 1: We were all very high in culson Yan Cup because
Speaker 1: he was a good athlete who could play special teams.
Speaker 1: So we all thought he had a shot to make
Speaker 1: the team. So Fred's taking credit for all of our takes,
Speaker 1: which is tough. It does that, Yeah, he does that.
Speaker 1: But again, like Kolson Yankov, everyondy says all, I don't
Speaker 1: really see him. He made a couple of catches. Dude
Speaker 1: was an absolute, absolute maniac on teams. And if you're
Speaker 1: that fourth tight end, yeah you got to play teams.
Speaker 1: And I think the other thing to remember is he
Speaker 1: played running back in college for whatever reason, and so
Speaker 1: he's making a position switch. So he's this tremendous athlete,
Speaker 1: tremendous motor on teams. You can develop as this kind
Speaker 1: of fourth tight end.
Speaker 2: High football IQ. All right, that's what I see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I like that one. Ten you got one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got two and they don't. I'm I'm a
Speaker 4: little wild because both of them are here. But I'm
Speaker 4: happy that both of them here because they bring that
Speaker 4: veteran present Pringle.
Speaker 2: Yes and Crowder yes.
Speaker 4: Just knowing that I knew Crowder had a chance of
Speaker 4: making it, but I knew it was tight too him, like, bro,
Speaker 4: it's a tough room. Yeah, And people might look at
Speaker 4: me like, I know, you're crazy because there's no receivers there,
Speaker 4: but I'm like, no, they had enough young talent that
Speaker 4: a guy like Crowded can get lost in the shuffle.
Speaker 4: But when I saw Pringle come back into you know,
Speaker 4: not come back into the game, but come back on
Speaker 4: the team because he wasn't here in the first week
Speaker 4: of training camp, yeah, I'm like, well, I like that
Speaker 4: guy last year, but why now, what's what's here that
Speaker 4: give you the notion that he might have a chance
Speaker 4: to even make this squad with all these receivers. He
Speaker 4: made it. So I was wild by that he made it.
Speaker 4: And then you have both of those veteran guys here,
Speaker 4: Crowded and Pringle.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: For me, I think my wild guys and in this
Speaker 1: wild position, just in general, was there's a couple of things.
Speaker 1: One is Jean Baptiste, Yeah, the seventh round pick from
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Like I thought kJ, Henry had it unlocked
Speaker 1: and then got it. And then as the preseason went on,
Speaker 1: I will say the Miami game and the New England game,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're seeing ninety flash a little
Speaker 1: bit and he flashes a pass rusher, he flashes the
Speaker 1: run game. He made a couple of tackles on teams,
Speaker 1: and he say, maybe he's going to make a push,
Speaker 1: but I thought it was between him and Jamon, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Jamins got the sack. Jamis coming
Speaker 1: along on teams. And you say that flexibility, and I think,
Speaker 1: like you said this, Fred when you were talking about
Speaker 1: Colston Yankov, the flexibility of the roster is something that
Speaker 1: in terms of the personnel, because like, look at Jamie.
Speaker 1: You said this, right, he could play linebacker, team, you
Speaker 1: can play head rusher, right, Baptists can play defensive end,
Speaker 1: and he can play special teams. And I felt like kJ,
Speaker 1: while he did really good at defensive end, didn't really
Speaker 1: bring that same flexibility. And I like the I'm glad
Speaker 1: he said great because he really did a great job
Speaker 1: he did, and he and hopefully they find a way
Speaker 1: to get him back and get him on the roster
Speaker 1: and keep them the fall because playing profile, I just
Speaker 1: worried that he's gonna get he's one of those guys
Speaker 1: that could get claimed.
Speaker 4: Say he's one of those guys that, man, I don't
Speaker 4: I don't bank on him making him back to us
Speaker 4: because someone goes see that talent.
Speaker 3: New England stay cornerback ain't gonna be like, yeah, we
Speaker 3: need a pass rush head.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so is there a position group like looking
Speaker 1: at there, I weve got these rosters heares or a
Speaker 1: position group that you're like this is this is like
Speaker 1: just get final thought, like final thoughts on positions. Let's
Speaker 1: start with maybe receivers, Like what do you think about
Speaker 1: that group?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I hear it's crazy because we had
Speaker 4: that little night where we was at the stadium and
Speaker 4: it was there. I guess you can say the season
Speaker 4: ticket holders and suite owners Fantasy football, you know, draft night,
Speaker 4: and the first thing someone threatened me, it's like, bro,
Speaker 4: we don't have a tall receiver. Like when has this
Speaker 4: been an argument? It was an argument for me to
Speaker 4: come in the league. In two thousand and one that
Speaker 4: I was too short, maybe I can't play in this league.
Speaker 4: But we put that behind us. Then why teams are
Speaker 4: so enamored or our fans are so enamored by we
Speaker 4: need taller guys. That doesn't say we're gonna get great production.
Speaker 4: And I feel like if you look at our team,
Speaker 4: especially the guys that I just mentioned, Pringle's tall enough.
Speaker 4: You know you Havecaffrey's tall enough. We have enough height here.
Speaker 4: It's nobody here five seventy five eight playing receiver, so
Speaker 4: we have enough height to be competitive. So I don't
Speaker 4: understand why folks are so enamored by the height part
Speaker 4: of it. But I'm happy with the guys we have.
Speaker 4: You would look at it like why they don't have
Speaker 4: another star out there that can you know, be bro.
Speaker 4: They all can play football. You don't need You don't.
Speaker 2: Need a Jerry opportunity exactly.
Speaker 4: That's what makes you, Jerry Rice. That's what makes you, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, Tyreek Hill, when you have a quarterback that
Speaker 4: can get you the ball in a timely fashion, so
Speaker 4: you can be great. So I think all these guys
Speaker 4: are capable. You saw what Terry did as a third
Speaker 4: round drive pick in and I'm just excited for the
Speaker 4: room man because I know they have a quarterback that
Speaker 4: eventually not sure when it's going to click for these guys.
Speaker 4: They all have to get you know, used to playing
Speaker 4: with each other. But he's going to be a guy
Speaker 4: that's gonna find a way to get all these guys
Speaker 4: name to be up there like a Terry m or
Speaker 4: Terry McCluin.
Speaker 2: With that room right there, I think it's a very
Speaker 2: solid room.
Speaker 3: I'm really anticipating watching d Mmie Brown because, like I
Speaker 3: just said, wide receivers need opportunities. Like if I'm a
Speaker 3: wide receiver, I get seventy targets, I'm gonna have more
Speaker 3: yours than you, period if you've got thirty targets. So
Speaker 3: some stuff just ain't fair in this game. So I'm
Speaker 3: I'm waiting to see the ummy. Can you take this
Speaker 3: uptick in targets? Are you ready to take it to
Speaker 3: the next level? Because you know, people just need confidence.
Speaker 3: I always tell people all football players are one play
Speaker 3: away from turning into a superstar, Like you make that
Speaker 3: one play and now I feel like I can't be stopped.
Speaker 3: So with Dummy win, is he gonna I see it's
Speaker 3: slowing down, but can you take the volume the passes.
Speaker 2: It's gonna come your way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think people forget like how good Zach
Speaker 1: Ertz has been through the season. So to me, it's
Speaker 1: like the receiving group is is a dense group, you know,
Speaker 1: like there's no maybe, like there's Terry and I think
Speaker 1: everyone's kind of got their skill set. Thanks Tan, appreciate it,
Speaker 1: but they've got their skill set that they're working on, right.
Speaker 1: But in terms of number two, I think Zach's gonna
Speaker 1: get a lot of targets. And people talk about lack
Speaker 1: of size, like Zach's a big guy, Ben, It's a
Speaker 1: big guy, right, They'll be able to be pulling it.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be able to kind of use those skill sets.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't really you know, to me, like you
Speaker 1: can get away without having a true I think Kansas
Speaker 1: City is a great example of this.
Speaker 4: It'll it was a true example too. Wide receiver wise, yeah,
Speaker 4: height wise yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying like in terms of like the the true.
Speaker 2: Number one, the city does have a true one.
Speaker 1: They have a really good tight end that's good rapport
Speaker 1: with the quarterback. But I think that's what Zach gives
Speaker 1: you in addition to having Terry, So I think there's
Speaker 1: other ways around that. Let's talk about the tight end
Speaker 1: room over here, right. Obviously a little bit surprising that
Speaker 1: Cole Turner gets cut. I thought he had a really
Speaker 1: to hit to give him credit, really good preseason, improved
Speaker 1: a lot as of player, but just lacked a little
Speaker 1: bit of consistency catching the football. And I think when
Speaker 1: you're making those final decisions, those are things that are important.
Speaker 4: To I think the only thing that stood out to
Speaker 4: me about him I will always have a guy like
Speaker 4: him on my team. He reminds me of a Jordan Reed,
Speaker 4: not the same kind of shiftiness, but he's just one
Speaker 4: of those bodies that you want to see out there
Speaker 4: with those jump ball opportunities. Just to buck being a
Speaker 4: great block a part of it, you know, in the physicality. Yeah,
Speaker 4: when you look at the guys that we have, you
Speaker 4: look at and say, what what do they do better
Speaker 4: than him? Block?
Speaker 2: Block?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean so besides catching the football, Yeah, they're
Speaker 4: great blockers. So that's what stood out to me with him.
Speaker 1: And he also but I will say, like I went
Speaker 1: back and watched the Patriots game, like he played behind them.
Speaker 1: He played physical, man, he played physical. But I do
Speaker 1: think it's it's it's the drop on the aisle, maybe
Speaker 1: the drop of the scene, the two penalties early on,
Speaker 1: and again like I'm that guy.
Speaker 2: I have been him.
Speaker 1: I know, I know how hard that is to know
Speaker 1: you've improved as a player and not make those players
Speaker 1: and not make the team. Hopefully land somewhere, you know,
Speaker 1: people talk about him getting claimed. Hopefully that works out
Speaker 1: for him. But in just the room, like you feel
Speaker 1: good about the room, I feel good about the room.
Speaker 3: I feel good about the room because the one thing
Speaker 3: about it when it comes to tight ends, some tight
Speaker 3: ends are indicators for us on defense, like Cole Turner.
Speaker 3: If you bring Cole Turner out there, you I know
Speaker 3: you're not running to his side.
Speaker 2: So these guys, none of them are indicators.
Speaker 3: Like when I look at these, all of these guys
Speaker 3: catch passes and they block, So this are you tipping
Speaker 3: the hat to me?
Speaker 4: You're not?
Speaker 3: Like even some receivers are like that, Like some team
Speaker 3: refuse to run to the side that will receive it
Speaker 3: because they received ain't Filzic and he don't block, So
Speaker 3: I know it's a dB all right, The run going
Speaker 3: to I know how to signal that to my teammates.
Speaker 3: So that's what I like about this room. It's solid,
Speaker 3: It's rock solid.
Speaker 4: And then asking about how solid it is and how
Speaker 4: you felt about it. I was very pleased just to
Speaker 4: see Baits man. Like I felt like he was a
Speaker 4: guy last year that I liked, but it just he
Speaker 4: didn't have enough consistency in his play. Yeah, this preseason
Speaker 4: was a totally different preseason for him. I mean he
Speaker 4: was consistent and everything he did catching the football was
Speaker 4: more cleaner, you know what I mean. He didn't have
Speaker 4: those bobbles like he be hating for. And then we
Speaker 4: always knew he was a great blocker. So just know
Speaker 4: the pressure was on with having sent it yank Off,
Speaker 4: I was hoping that he made it. Like, man, it's
Speaker 4: tough with how these two young guys. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: probably a little faster, a little Mike hosses, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Mike can do both instead of just one.
Speaker 4: And he made it. He made it through it, Baits Motel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you said that because Baits did have
Speaker 1: an excellent camp, preseason, offseason process. The whole thing was
Speaker 1: great for him. Running backs really no surprises there quarterback.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that real quick. They're keeping three. Jeff
Speaker 1: Driscoll makes it again. I think he had a pretty
Speaker 1: solid preseason. You see some of his limitations. I think
Speaker 1: that's probably more because Mario has got the groin just
Speaker 1: in case early on, you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just in case veteran.
Speaker 2: Gotta have a veteran right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jeff Jews couldn't seen enough football that he
Speaker 3: could step in and get the job.
Speaker 1: And then, you know, I think we talk about guys
Speaker 1: that are on the pup list. We talked about that
Speaker 1: earlier pup and I are like, Jeff's a guy that
Speaker 1: I think at some point could be you know, as
Speaker 1: Marioda gets healthier, he could be demoted to practice practice squad.
Speaker 1: And it's still around. But and then let's talk about
Speaker 1: this because offensively, I think it's pretty straightforward.
Speaker 2: O line.
Speaker 1: You have anything to say about the on line?
Speaker 4: Uh, the old line.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody really shocked me from this old
Speaker 3: line because I think what the old line is going
Speaker 3: to They want versatility. They want guys to be able
Speaker 3: to fill in for a guy and not miss a beat.
Speaker 3: So nobody shocks me on this list. I think Chris
Speaker 3: Paul really earned his spot really well, and I think
Speaker 3: he showed him putting me a go out attack. I
Speaker 3: don't care where you put me at. I'm gonna serve
Speaker 3: some my hot I'm gonna serave some pancakes. So at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, I think the office was
Speaker 3: line did shocked me at out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it kind of felt the way we wanted.
Speaker 1: I kind of wish one of those guys, you know,
Speaker 1: like a Ricky Stromberg or you know Jones, would have
Speaker 1: made a harder push to make.
Speaker 2: That good Jones is I love good job. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: like him too, But I love.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, like it would have been nice, Like
Speaker 1: it would have been nice if one of those guys
Speaker 1: that made a push. But you know, Leader is a
Speaker 1: guy that brought in needs well enough to kind of.
Speaker 3: Didn't play some football he got he got some pips
Speaker 3: on the wall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Any thoughts tending, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I was pleased with the old line. I
Speaker 4: feel like, you know, when you're looking at just what
Speaker 4: we had, you know, the couple of guys, and I
Speaker 4: was surprised by losing Stromberg. I was surprised by that,
Speaker 4: just knowing that he was a he was a young
Speaker 4: guy last year that showed potential. But I just feel
Speaker 4: like I'm hoping, you know that you know, far as
Speaker 4: just for left left tackle purposes, not sure how it
Speaker 4: was all going to pan out, and we get another
Speaker 4: guy that we can say, Okay, we have another guy
Speaker 4: you know on the team that can that that we
Speaker 4: feel exitid about him, you know, being being a starter
Speaker 4: at that position.
Speaker 1: Especially with Brandon Coleman being injured a little yeah, just
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 4: Of can't have one one to the season and saying
Speaker 4: we were solely hoping this guy can play the next
Speaker 4: five weeks without you know, having one of these guys up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like obviously like Cornea Sugus did a great job,
Speaker 1: Trent Scott's kind of swing guy now and uh, you
Speaker 1: know a little up and down the preseason, but you know,
Speaker 1: like you're talking about, you need that guy. So in
Speaker 1: terms of like waiver wire you're going to talk about
Speaker 1: a second, that's the spot that I'd probably just keep
Speaker 1: an eye on at one of those tackle shows up.
Speaker 1: And then maybe the most interesting position to me was
Speaker 1: defensive back. Just how that and I got a wild
Speaker 1: because it's one hundred there, I got a wow. I'm
Speaker 1: really happy that Derek Forrest made it.
Speaker 3: Nick Listen, Defo was the one that I think all
Speaker 3: of us was like, is he on the bubble?
Speaker 2: Like, man, what's what's going on here?
Speaker 4: Apasically watching him play through the preseason, I was like, man,
Speaker 4: team playing too late. He's getting into late. And I
Speaker 4: mean he still brought that. You know, he brought what
Speaker 4: he brains. You know all the time he was hitting
Speaker 4: out there and he was flying around. But yeah, I was.
Speaker 4: I was happy to see his name under him and
Speaker 4: your guy from Louisiana player at be Mission School, Percy Butler, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was. I would like I think Percy showed him something.
Speaker 3: And I think when I look at this defensive back,
Speaker 3: I think some of these guys really kept here for
Speaker 3: certain packages. Like I think that's what it is, package
Speaker 3: specific guys that they like. I don't want to lose
Speaker 3: this guy, because you got some guys like what's the
Speaker 3: name Dominique hampton Is is labeled as a line.
Speaker 4: So you know, is he truly.
Speaker 2: Gonna be playing as a Twiner?
Speaker 3: Is they gonna be like, you know, no, we just
Speaker 3: added him and we're keeping an extra defensive back because
Speaker 3: Jamie Davis is labeled as a defensive lineman, but he
Speaker 3: actually can play linebackers. So they go that fluency on
Speaker 3: that on the roster that I like, fluency, fluency, not fluent.
Speaker 4: You know, he's trying to make it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's just it's a crazy group. They got
Speaker 1: Mike Sanders, Still, Jeremy Chin, Emmanuel Forbes, Noeg Monoghany Kwan Martin,
Speaker 1: Derek Forrest, Michael Davis, Benjamin sat Jews, Percy Butler, Jeremy Reeves, Tyler.
Speaker 2: Owens, Owens, Brownlows. So you earned everything.
Speaker 1: I was looking for players to do for breakdowns for
Speaker 1: Coaches Show, Yeah, and I was like, let me just
Speaker 1: watch some of Tyler Owens special teams. I got to
Speaker 1: show you these clips. Bro, I'm talking about like you know,
Speaker 1: you see people get blown up on teams and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a good play. But once, like once every blue moon,
Speaker 1: it's a different guy. So in the Miami game, they're
Speaker 1: covering a kick. First play takes this guy throws him,
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, throws him into the returner. His guy
Speaker 1: makes a tackle. Next play, exactly the same thing. Two
Speaker 1: plays in a row, and then him playing vice on
Speaker 1: the gunner. Yeah, so they're covering the outside, he's the
Speaker 1: inside bvice. So the guy runs around, He runs up
Speaker 1: the guy's coming back and bounds, hits him, falls down
Speaker 1: like decleats him. Yeah, he did it three times in
Speaker 1: a row. I've never seen some do that before.
Speaker 2: His measurables had to come by a mission.
Speaker 3: He had the second longest long jump of all times.
Speaker 1: I think he broke the record. It was twelve two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like twelve two on a broad jump.
Speaker 2: That mean he could jump from Mississippi the Ada bell
Speaker 2: dude that we didn't tell you he had forty three
Speaker 2: inch ver. Yes, he hasn't came down yet. He jumped
Speaker 2: like a day ago.
Speaker 1: He's got thirty four inch arms to like. He is
Speaker 1: a he's a he's a freak, a physical investment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a speciman. So yeah, I think he definitely deserved it.
Speaker 1: I think he's got a little ways to go as
Speaker 1: like a safety safety, but as a teams guy, like,
Speaker 1: he's definitely got a home.
Speaker 4: He's a football playerf period.
Speaker 1: And then I love Dominic Campton, a linebacker like in
Speaker 1: that Miami game.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: So really they've got twelve dbs. Yeah, you think about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like he just like talk about urgency, like urgency to
Speaker 1: the football. Like I'm so happy that he's around in
Speaker 1: the program because like you liked him from draft day.
Speaker 1: I liked him from draft day because but you didn't
Speaker 1: where he was gonna fit you to go. And then
Speaker 1: like to see him playing linebacker and like running of
Speaker 1: the football, being physical, like not looking out of place linebacker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought it was really cool and just to have
Speaker 1: all these young, talented, hungry guys.
Speaker 3: I hate to say this, when he plays that lineback
Speaker 3: in the safety, he reminded me.
Speaker 2: Of what Curse did for the Cowboys last year, the same.
Speaker 1: Think that's exactly right. One, Yeah, I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: So I think that that's I mean, that's to me,
Speaker 1: that's the most interesting group. Really happy that Forrest made
Speaker 1: it defensive line. I mean we talked about it. I
Speaker 1: talked about a little bit with Jean Baptiste and Jamie Davis,
Speaker 1: like how about those guys making it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like how about that?
Speaker 4: No, I was scratching my head about when I saw
Speaker 4: that Jamin got the nod over a true d D lineman.
Speaker 4: When I heard coaches speak the other day. You understood.
Speaker 4: He brought up back to what we just talked about,
Speaker 4: you know, having a guy that is flexible, he can
Speaker 4: play multiple positions, and you know, and then you look
Speaker 4: at how they did things last year in Dallas, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, bringing certain guys in, moving guys around.
Speaker 4: That's what you want, and we were sending it from
Speaker 4: the get go. Now, don't get me wrong. So we
Speaker 4: was only surprised because Jamin changed his position, so we
Speaker 4: didn't know how well he would be a you know,
Speaker 4: our edge rusher. But when it comes to a football player,
Speaker 4: a guy that's athletic, Jamin fits the mold. I mean,
Speaker 4: he can fly, look the fares. So I'm happy, you know,
Speaker 4: to say the least, that he's a guy that found
Speaker 4: his way on his team, knowing that it's hard.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: You get new coaching staff in here and they're still
Speaker 4: talking about what you haven't done the years before at
Speaker 4: the position that they drafted you at. So I'm pleased
Speaker 4: more to you know, say the least, because I knew
Speaker 4: I want to see him out there, and I'm glad.
Speaker 3: They found a spot for I thought he was gonna
Speaker 3: come down to this wrestling match between Ridgeway and Fidari
Speaker 3: and Max I'm glad actually, So I was like, all right,
Speaker 3: it's either that's great.
Speaker 1: Producer because I forgot to mention that. So let's hear
Speaker 1: you know, I'm smarter than you.
Speaker 3: The thing about it is, I was shocked because I
Speaker 3: was like, you know what they gonna they gonna pick one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we know matthis.
Speaker 3: He's been injured most of the time and Ridgeway just
Speaker 3: every time he gets in.
Speaker 1: The game, he makes play preseason, Yeah, he just makes
Speaker 1: the third game man.
Speaker 4: Like every time he's on the field. Man.
Speaker 1: It was it was crazy watching him play like that
Speaker 1: third preseason game, like him like that was the starting
Speaker 1: center for.
Speaker 4: The new England papers backfield every time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy looked like he didn't want to play football.
Speaker 1: He tossed him around and Big Phil against Miami looked
Speaker 1: like a second round pick.
Speaker 2: Like he looked good.
Speaker 3: But I think is with this new coaching stay up
Speaker 3: everybody just look you know, how you look over your shoulder.
Speaker 4: Like no that found anything behind?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got like that matchup and how you can
Speaker 4: wake up. Everybody got that matchup on them. So y'all
Speaker 4: want me to play football?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a great point. I'm glad you brought that up.
Speaker 1: And again I think they keep both, probably because jers
Speaker 1: On is still I was really surprised not on IR
Speaker 1: and not on the pup list, so like.
Speaker 2: I was shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, that's telling me something he must be getting.
Speaker 1: He must be ready to go. So that's one that
Speaker 1: I thought. So maybe they're going to kind of see
Speaker 1: how he comes along, keep those other guys, keep that rotation.
Speaker 1: And like we said, all those guys had a really
Speaker 1: good preseason. But this roster is extremely flexible, still, right,
Speaker 1: and so let's talk about some mechanisms that would allow
Speaker 1: this roster to change. So this is again we're kind
Speaker 1: of gonna put our nerdy glasses back on. I'm going
Speaker 1: to talk some technical roster construction for a second. So basically,
Speaker 1: when you cut a player, yes, if you have four
Speaker 1: years of service released, yes, you are a free agent. Yes,
Speaker 1: go out sign anywhere you want. Any team can sign
Speaker 1: tomorrow today. Yes, which is a good thing for ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: However, if you are not a vested player, you don't
Speaker 1: have four years of experience, you go on something called waivers.
Speaker 2: You are waived, waved.
Speaker 1: And waivers, you're subject. You're subjugated to a list, a
Speaker 1: claims list that follows the order of the draft. Right,
Speaker 1: So the first pick last year was Chicago.
Speaker 3: But it was Carolina's peak. Carolina Day loss every game.
Speaker 3: They deserve everything they got.
Speaker 1: So basically, if if I if so, if Carolina puts
Speaker 1: puts in a waiver claim on a player, Let's say
Speaker 1: young Fred Smoot is available, right, and Carolina puts an
Speaker 1: claim in Baltimore puts an the claim Carolina. So what
Speaker 1: the mechanism is designed to do is allow you to
Speaker 1: get better football.
Speaker 3: Players a lot of stinky teams to catch up with
Speaker 3: the young test.
Speaker 1: So what I would just say is, is there is
Speaker 1: there a position where you're like, we gotta be looking
Speaker 1: at waivers a little bit. I'm want to kind of
Speaker 1: upgrade her. If there's a young talented guy.
Speaker 3: I think every physician we're I think we're at that point.
Speaker 3: Best man available, best man available. If some Wiley gets
Speaker 3: cut because of some contray.
Speaker 2: Oh you can't do that was a very nice. That
Speaker 2: tells me to get up and start a new day,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But if some Venturan get cut,
Speaker 2: I want.
Speaker 1: Him And so that's that's an important distinction because if
Speaker 1: it's if they're not invested so young, so these would
Speaker 1: be a young player, young player, So like, uh, I
Speaker 1: can't even think of an offensive lineman that's young.
Speaker 3: But like I just like, we just need with the
Speaker 3: Jihun team, we traded Jehan, but if we would have.
Speaker 1: Relieved, then he goes to waivers, yes, and then he
Speaker 1: get the claim and.
Speaker 2: The Panthers would have picked him up. They would have
Speaker 2: picked him up one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And so for me, if I'm looking at a position,
Speaker 1: I'm saying Tanner brought this up. Is there an offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: young dude that maybe Adam Peters liked from a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago that hits waivers that we can get
Speaker 1: on this team, my offensive lineman, tackle guard, somebody like that.
Speaker 1: I would have that circled in a big red pen
Speaker 1: just because and it's not that I don't like the
Speaker 1: guys here.
Speaker 2: I just think there's a lot of depth.
Speaker 6: And I think I receive it was another one of
Speaker 6: those if one of these guys hits the market that
Speaker 6: you like, You're like, okay, he got some upsides. Did
Speaker 6: John Benchi get cut or no, Chi ain't gonna get
Speaker 6: cut because everybody trying to trade as we speak, because
Speaker 6: their room is so deep.
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's an inside joke. Fred's been talking about John
Speaker 1: Minsh Like, yeah, warning, so receiver's good old line anywhere
Speaker 1: else to any of these sing.
Speaker 4: Those are the two that stood out to me, and you.
Speaker 1: Might you might say it for the right I think
Speaker 1: that's the thing though, is like with a team like this,
Speaker 1: I think there's some we have some really good pieces,
Speaker 1: but it's a it's a young team, it's early in
Speaker 1: a rebuild.
Speaker 2: You you're always looking for depth.
Speaker 1: And if one of those guys comes along and it
Speaker 1: allows you to get some depth, I think you jump
Speaker 1: on it with two hands. The other one I would
Speaker 1: just say. Looking for just explosive players. I think that's
Speaker 1: one of the things, like they talked about with Kaz Allen,
Speaker 1: can we get more explosive and if there's an explosive receiver,
Speaker 1: running back or a kick returner like for example, the guy.
Speaker 4: From Tony Hit Hit, the got cut.
Speaker 1: Yes, Like I don't know personality wise, but it's a
Speaker 1: good example.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the running back for Minnesota, who's the kick returner there?
Speaker 1: Who ran a four to one four two four at
Speaker 1: the Combine a couple of years ago from Minnesota. He
Speaker 1: got cut, Like I would maybe just kick the tires
Speaker 1: on that. I think that's that's a that's a really
Speaker 1: good tool for this team, right you. Fred kind of
Speaker 1: alluded to trade. We can still trade some of these
Speaker 1: guys too, if something happens. But the waiver wire stuff
Speaker 1: and that doesn't get processed till recording this on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: That doesn't get processed till twelve o'clock today, So we'll
Speaker 1: have a little bit of time on that to kind
Speaker 1: of get those finalized roster things. But I do think
Speaker 1: this is not done.
Speaker 2: It's fluid.
Speaker 1: They're gonna maybe move some pieces around.
Speaker 2: You ain't never done. We see guys working out here daily.
Speaker 2: It's never done. Does that stress you out? That stresses
Speaker 2: me out? Does that stress you out? When you were here?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 2: I had black Hey, first of all, this dude didn't
Speaker 2: watch nothing. This dude you should.
Speaker 4: Go do his beans. And you know, it's funny that
Speaker 4: we asked me that question, because I honest, my honest opinion, Bro, Like,
Speaker 4: when you don't care or worry about no one else,
Speaker 4: you have more time to worry about self and make
Speaker 4: sure you're right. So I was always just making sure
Speaker 4: that as long as you not all your eyes across
Speaker 4: your ts, you should have to worry about nobody coming
Speaker 4: behind you.
Speaker 3: I can see Logan waking up every morning watching whoever's
Speaker 3: on the field, who they working.
Speaker 1: It was all I have, like a you know, like
Speaker 1: not a great game, but not a back game, just
Speaker 1: kind of a middle of the road game. And they'd
Speaker 1: be working out tight ends on Tuesday and be like, God.
Speaker 4: They gotta understand think about it, and this happens in
Speaker 4: our league. I went, I came here O five. I
Speaker 4: just I just was a I was the second receiver
Speaker 4: in the league that year, win yards, second team All Pro.
Speaker 4: And they brought in two receivers and paid them the
Speaker 4: same money I got the next year, and they never
Speaker 4: had a thousand yards yet. Yeah that's my That was
Speaker 4: my second second thousand yard season. So if you ever
Speaker 4: sit and dwell on that type of stuff, done you.
Speaker 2: Feel what I'm saying?
Speaker 4: And you know how it was brought up to me.
Speaker 4: A coach said something to me two years later. He said, Tanner,
Speaker 4: you know you never broke a sweat when we brought
Speaker 4: the money to guys in I say, why cause they
Speaker 4: don't fit the mold of me. They're supposed to come
Speaker 4: in and help. That's the thing about being a receiver,
Speaker 4: Like it's multiple of us. He said. Yeah, but god,
Speaker 4: he say, man, I don't play on some devas they
Speaker 4: come in the room, they slammed the door them. Like
Speaker 4: while you brought that joke over here, he said, Bro,
Speaker 4: you deap them boys off and went to work, I said,
Speaker 4: And there was some good dudes. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like just talking about just how it is.
Speaker 4: So that's why I bring it up, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I think that's a I knew the
Speaker 1: NFL was like the real deal, like real deal, hard
Speaker 1: to make football teams, but like you'd come in for
Speaker 1: the waiver wire workouts, so like those those happen on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: So Monday, come and get your lyft on Tuesday and
Speaker 1: uh and like you'd see like famous college like JaMarcus
Speaker 1: Russell's and there on a Tuesday getting the workout and
Speaker 1: or Treell Priors, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, what what's going on? You're like the
Speaker 2: best player ever saw. Yeah, no, like I'll never forget.
Speaker 2: I think that was my third year.
Speaker 3: We drafted a cornerback from Maryland, and they interviewed him
Speaker 3: the day he got drafted.
Speaker 2: We took him in like the fourth round. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: coming to take Fred Smooth your job.
Speaker 1: What he said.
Speaker 2: The first time I met.
Speaker 3: I just laughed at mail you not you come to
Speaker 3: look at my back name in the back of my
Speaker 3: But I liked it. It's healthy competition. It lets me know, like, listen,
Speaker 3: he got some that I didn't have youth. I'm storing it.
Speaker 3: I'm getting old like he got youth. So it just
Speaker 3: woke me back up to this is gonna be every year.
Speaker 3: This ain't just one year, like these jobs are one
Speaker 3: year jobs. I tell people being in the league is
Speaker 3: one year at a time, maybe one day at a time.
Speaker 1: Well that's what it felt like when I was here
Speaker 1: early on one day, like one day, one foot in
Speaker 1: front of the other. Hopefully I'm on the roster today,
Speaker 1: but you know this is the this is the temporary roster. Really,
Speaker 1: congratulations all these guys, and hopefully they're not stressed out
Speaker 1: like I was, because I was pretty stressed.
Speaker 2: Out, all right.
Speaker 1: All right, So we had a conversation on the last
Speaker 1: show about whether or not we could defeat a gorilla.
Speaker 2: And it just it got feed up his own, it
Speaker 2: just ran out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so we got a whole bunch of comments
Speaker 1: from fans, and Jason said he wanted to read some
Speaker 1: of those comments and some of these are some of these,
Speaker 1: I love them.
Speaker 2: There what we got, Jason.
Speaker 5: Our fans are awesome, thanks for engaging on YouTube and
Speaker 5: that hawk outside at gmail dot com. Yeah, but they
Speaker 5: were really into this conversation. Uh So here are some
Speaker 5: good ones from Curtis o' winfrey four three seven.
Speaker 2: Five Curtis Owin, all right, here's what he needs.
Speaker 5: He says, give me Trent, I assumed, Trent Williams, Larry Allen,
Speaker 5: great selection, Jonathan Ogden, John Henderson, Tyron Smith, Hellodinata.
Speaker 4: Are we good?
Speaker 2: Dude? I think they make it.
Speaker 4: Out Marend and damn guerrilla hisself see hisself.
Speaker 1: Man like Larry Allen man.
Speaker 4: First of all, Larry Strong's man NFL.
Speaker 2: I never forget this might be strong Man, my rookie year.
Speaker 2: You know, I stoped smelled like this? Ain't he like?
Speaker 2: Watch the d live and don't play this week? I like,
Speaker 2: what's your mean? They got Larry Allen lou go play
Speaker 2: scared of it, Like what you mean scared of It's wild?
Speaker 2: He's a office alignment that plays like he on defense.
Speaker 3: And I watched that feelm and I was like, he's
Speaker 3: a he's demolishing, he's attacking people like I had never
Speaker 3: seen an offensive line of attack people the way Larry
Speaker 3: Ally did.
Speaker 2: Then I ran in the saption for sixty yards and
Speaker 2: he ran me down.
Speaker 1: I do That's great watching his highlights, him blocking as
Speaker 1: he was to be that big, and how white he was,
Speaker 1: and how like how strong his hands.
Speaker 3: Were if he got his hands on you to death,
Speaker 3: do you part?
Speaker 1: So I'd like to think Larry Ane could hold an
Speaker 1: arm down, you know what I'm saying, Like Larry Al.
Speaker 2: And Jonathan Ogden and then got him in a head
Speaker 2: lot I saw.
Speaker 1: I saw the craziest thing about Jonathan Augden speaking of
Speaker 1: just baller moves, so like he was so good at
Speaker 1: left tackle. He would pass block with one hand and
Speaker 1: point open receivers. Could you imagine being that good? Like
Speaker 1: he would just be like, oh, I got you, and
Speaker 1: he'd be like what's the name moment, like how embarrassed.
Speaker 4: Are you for the defensive end?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Just like man, I'm terrible.
Speaker 2: Is he turning his head? By the way, what's the name?
Speaker 2: Like I played against Jayo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like that dude like watching it like
Speaker 1: because I we had a coach when I was in
Speaker 1: Atlanta who was there in Baltimore with him, So we'd
Speaker 1: watched Baltimore tape. Yeah, He's like, watch Jonathan Knockton here
Speaker 1: and it looked like like sometimes like it looks like
Speaker 1: it's easy. Like it looked like he wasn't trying. Jo
Speaker 1: was asleep. Yeah, Like that's how good he was. And
Speaker 1: I've never seen a player like that dominant. You know.
Speaker 3: I add Darre Gardiner to that list of god that
Speaker 3: I want to send in there with him.
Speaker 2: Biggest man I ever seen, Dude.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about it, like you watch World
Speaker 1: Strongest Man? Anybody anybody watched that? Ye, So like you
Speaker 1: got have thorp Bjornson. Yeah, that dude's he's six '
Speaker 1: eight six nine plus.
Speaker 2: He was on Game of Throw.
Speaker 1: He's four sixty four and sixty pounds of like rocked
Speaker 1: up muscle. Yeah, so give me like a couple of
Speaker 1: those dudes. I feel like, just from a weight standpoint,
Speaker 1: we got a shot.
Speaker 4: That's really going thing. Twice looking at a dude like, yeah,
Speaker 4: the only.
Speaker 2: Thing about the gorilla he uncontrolled.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just chaos.
Speaker 2: It's just chaos.
Speaker 3: And these guys are gonna be trying to slow him
Speaker 3: down with he gonna be like.
Speaker 4: What, that's all we need one of them. You're talking
Speaker 4: about sacrifice. I'd rather one of them sacrifices they say
Speaker 4: something you Yeah, that what.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like list longest tree got him in the headline,
Speaker 3: I just punched him in face.
Speaker 1: Imagine all these big dudes are hold him in friends like.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, let's go. Let me get in there.
Speaker 4: Won't feel nothing.
Speaker 2: Beastings all right.
Speaker 5: At user r q A E W A k F
Speaker 5: one M.
Speaker 3: Is that about guys I'm gonna say, is heir?
Speaker 5: He says or she it would take seventeen people, sixteen
Speaker 5: would be violently silenced, and one would quickly write seventeen eulogies.
Speaker 1: So it's just like, we don't got a chance, no chance.
Speaker 2: So he's saying no chance.
Speaker 3: He probably like talking about him taking like sixteen his
Speaker 3: people from the office he works.
Speaker 1: Said, yeah, but you get sixteen like dogs.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, First of all, I think
Speaker 3: to tell you the truth with the guys we just named.
Speaker 3: I think if you get the right six or seven guys,
Speaker 3: they're gonna do something.
Speaker 2: They can handle this thing.
Speaker 1: So I posed this question to my brother in law
Speaker 1: who's a Green Brave, and so he and his buddies
Speaker 1: were all drink a little bit and they were like
Speaker 1: and they start thinking and mulling and over, you know,
Speaker 1: and these guys are like motivated, tactical. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to say no, don't know how to say no.
Speaker 1: And they were like, we could do it with six people.
Speaker 1: But if you think about it, six of the right
Speaker 1: people are willing to go in on it.
Speaker 4: Be trained.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and willing to go in on it.
Speaker 2: That means you got one part. I got one man.
Speaker 2: They had they had some of that.
Speaker 1: So I asked this question to everybody. Yeah, they had
Speaker 1: some of the crazy. I had to modify the question
Speaker 1: because their answers were so good.
Speaker 2: They were coming up with technically.
Speaker 1: They were like they were like in this room right here,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, yeah, he's like, well, I just
Speaker 1: short circuit that electrical outlet and electric get him to death.
Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, can't use it that like, and
Speaker 1: like I then I peel through the ceiling and pull
Speaker 1: out the piping, and I was like, nope, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I was like, whoa dude, these guys are just like
Speaker 2: different level. One thing we got over to him is
Speaker 2: the art of using tools.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I love how like those dudes like you,
Speaker 1: I said to anybody're like, no, you can't do it.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh in this room, it's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: break that chair apart, No.
Speaker 2: That chair is on here, give me it. Number twos were.
Speaker 1: Like you're like oh, You're like, oh god, you guys
Speaker 1: are animals. And then then their thing was like, oh,
Speaker 1: we could blind them. And I never heard that because
Speaker 1: it was like you choke him out, like oh we'll
Speaker 1: blind him.
Speaker 2: No, that's the first thing I'm gonna try to do,
Speaker 2: blind him and choking.
Speaker 1: And I was like those dudes. And after that conversation
Speaker 1: with those guys, I was like, damn they.
Speaker 2: Might all right.
Speaker 5: See Michael Henson eight seven eight oh six, sorr, I
Speaker 5: want to get that right. He had a unique, unique
Speaker 5: tactic here, all right. It want to work for everyone.
Speaker 5: He says that off the bat, but he would have
Speaker 5: just sung softly to the gorilla music supposed to sue them.
Speaker 2: And then just solely rock him to sleep. So I
Speaker 2: don't know, you go see.
Speaker 1: It better be good, man, because he's gonna kill you.
Speaker 1: If it's not good.
Speaker 2: Listen, man, you can pray they can do it. He
Speaker 2: don't understand it. All.
Speaker 3: How he understand is higg or human. I'm not used
Speaker 3: to him. You smell funny. I'm about to demolish you.
Speaker 1: And it just scared me so bad. I thought she
Speaker 1: was a ghost for a second. I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, you thought it was but like I saw
Speaker 1: this thing. My Instagram feed has been getting crushed with
Speaker 1: gorilla stuff now because of this. And and there was
Speaker 1: one where there's you know, there's people that go in
Speaker 1: the Safaris and they're in like the population with the
Speaker 1: gorilla and this dude was standing up and the gorilla
Speaker 1: like walked up next to him and just stopped walking
Speaker 1: and like didn't turn his head, but you could just
Speaker 1: tell it was like a debo thing because he thought
Speaker 1: he was challenging him. And they're like lay down, and
Speaker 1: the guy just laid down immediately, and then the girla
Speaker 1: just kept walking.
Speaker 2: I was like, that is so scary.
Speaker 3: You talk about a gorilla. But hey, y'all just really
Speaker 3: walked up on the Ostrich.
Speaker 2: They are huge.
Speaker 4: They're huge.
Speaker 2: They're huge, I say huge. They will kill you.
Speaker 4: I've seen a couple of Chaser Chase Safari van.
Speaker 1: Listen they are Did you hear about the Johnny Cash thing?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you the story. Johnny he got gutted
Speaker 1: by an ostrich. Johnny Cash, the singer had a big farm.
Speaker 1: There was an emu or something. It was a big
Speaker 1: bird with a so he was like on his farm
Speaker 1: and he was like, get out of here, and the
Speaker 1: Ostrich took it. They have a big claw and.
Speaker 2: Cut cut them all the way down. He had to
Speaker 2: go to the hospital for.
Speaker 3: Why y'all think they always put the ostrich with the elephants.
Speaker 2: I didn't even y'all didn't know that in the zoo
Speaker 2: they always together. They ain't never seen.
Speaker 3: They always together and they are mammoth birds. They are
Speaker 3: huge and do you even how fast they are now?
Speaker 3: But the Ostrich to run him down. Yeah, it's true, right,
Speaker 3: I told you. Yeah, it's it's scary.
Speaker 2: Is this so funny? How we fact check each other?
Speaker 3: We hang around each other all the time, but we
Speaker 3: don't believe nothing each other got to say, don't.
Speaker 4: I don't bring it up unless I think it's true. Good,
Speaker 4: all right, all right, last one here.
Speaker 5: This was from our email that hawk outside at gmail
Speaker 5: dot com Raphael Clemencia.
Speaker 1: Great pronunciation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good name. All right, Santana. You were
Speaker 5: one point when you said, just talk gorilla. I think
Speaker 5: this will work. Everybody surrounds chagrilla and starts yelling very
Speaker 5: violently and gorilla talk and then jumping up and down,
Speaker 5: smacking yourselves.
Speaker 2: In the head. This is not playing updates and then
Speaker 2: that's either.
Speaker 5: The gorilla will get confused and then you all can
Speaker 5: chook him out, uh, and then yell for help.
Speaker 4: I love that I was just talking, but I love that.
Speaker 3: I love how America has came together to figure out
Speaker 3: how to defeat this gorilla.
Speaker 4: The only thing that don't look I was just talking. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was blowing smoke. Trust me, I would. I would
Speaker 4: rather stand still and not look at it than to
Speaker 4: do all of that, because now all you're doing is
Speaker 4: starting him up. Doing all that. You know what I mean,
Speaker 4: You're getting him to basically say, oh, you're challenging me.
Speaker 4: But we've all seen them Instagram posts where they out
Speaker 4: in somewhere and somebody safari they I don't know why
Speaker 4: them people be out there and if theriller walk by
Speaker 4: and then look at somebody be like push the head
Speaker 4: to the time, like what the hell you over here?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? What how about I just
Speaker 2: give him some bananas? You don't have anything, you don't
Speaker 2: have nothing to give.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I just go to weaknesses and get him
Speaker 3: some bananas and collar today.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the move. So we we appreciate your input
Speaker 1: on this.
Speaker 2: And what other animal would you like to see us? Gang?
Speaker 4: Is it an ostrich?
Speaker 2: Isn't? Anceris like?
Speaker 4: No shot?
Speaker 2: No shot?
Speaker 1: I mean I thought I thought about this a little bit.
Speaker 1: You could maybe like a medium sized black bear.
Speaker 8: Maybe black bear won'll kill you. But they're only two
Speaker 8: hundred and fifty pounds right only. But I'm not saying
Speaker 8: it's not a grizzly bear, which is fourteen hundred pounds.
Speaker 8: It's not a gorilla, which is five hundred pounds. Yeah,
Speaker 8: maybe you got a shot. The black bear will kill you, dude.
Speaker 1: Black bears are crazy. You're seeing black bear with no fur.
Speaker 1: They're like rocked up.
Speaker 2: Got a pit bull?
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