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Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bill Slide, Welcome to newer Field. We're

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Speaker 1: right next door. Little cloudier today, like cloud of you

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Speaker 1: still warm and it's great to be here, Great to

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Speaker 1: be indoors sunurday like today. Happy, happy with us for

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Speaker 1: the next three hours One Bills Live. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, NFL. We'll talk with you. We'll talk with

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Speaker 1: you and at you if you will do next three hours.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy here in the studio with Steve Tasker joining us.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Steve. You're back Thursday, Yeah, Friday and Monday.

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Speaker 1: You took a little winter trip to Florida. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: went down to visit some friends and uh, it was

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Speaker 1: a nice trip. Nice trip. We gotta visit three different

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Speaker 1: everybody's talking about coronavirus traveling back and forth. No, are

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Speaker 1: there any real issues or I mean, you know there

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Speaker 1: Uh even my wife, you know, she's wiping down the

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Speaker 1: You're standing around looking at them, but you know you

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Speaker 1: don't You're not like rubbing up against him and all that.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, So and you talk about Florida, it's a

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Speaker 1: But it was really business as usual for me and

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Speaker 1: our trip. Yeah, you know, it's an interesting thing. I'm

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Speaker 1: to take, right? Do you feel that way? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: see all the precautions you can take. I don't know

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Speaker 1: like you, I don't feel like I have a number

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Speaker 1: also here's the thing that gets me about it. Now

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Speaker 1: We don't know what it means. We word today that

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Speaker 1: it goes three hours today. By the way, Friday, we

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Speaker 1: Field Gate to VSPN the first to report it. Long

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Speaker 1: Space salary in twenty twenty two point five five million dollars.

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Speaker 1: a report that the Bills are bringing in a potential

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Speaker 1: Bills are going to host Miami linebacker Shack Quarterman on

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Speaker 1: mel Kiper describes Quarterman as a mid round prospect in

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Speaker 1: perception wise that will be the perception I think of

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Speaker 1: at least fifty percent of observers who make those kind

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Speaker 1: of persons. It's gonna say a lot, and it'll it'll

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Speaker 1: affect the other divisions as well. You know, they're they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be caught up in the exact same conversation. If

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady goes to who the Tennessee Titans, do the

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Speaker 1: Titans automatically get the nod over whoever the Colts run out?

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Speaker 1: There probably probably Tenans versus Titans. If Brady goes to

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Texans Jacksonville. I mean, all though, that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a division, that's that's gonna be swung by who plays

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Speaker 1: quarterback for the Tennessee Titans. And if it's not Ryan Tannehill,

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Speaker 1: and if if it's a perceived upgrade, they get locked

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Speaker 1: in stone to being the favorites of that division. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a big topic. And this is,

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Speaker 1: like I said, like I mentioned a moment ago, I

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Speaker 1: think this is a new era for the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not gonna say this, but I'll say

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Speaker 1: it just to make a point. It seems to be

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Speaker 1: it must be easier to play quarterback in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: or at least the coaching staffs must be doing a

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Speaker 1: better job to get more out of more guys, because

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Speaker 1: it used to be may be ten guys in the

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Speaker 1: league felt like he had a chance to win a

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Speaker 1: championship with everybody else was searching for the quarterback. The

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00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: Bills were here doing that for a long time. Now

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Speaker 1: they're drafting guys right away over the last couple three

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Speaker 1: or four years who are winning MVP's in their first

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Speaker 1: or second year. And it goes all the way back

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Speaker 1: to Russell Wilson in two thousand and what twelve did

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Speaker 1: he come out? I mean, they've got they're finding guys

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Speaker 1: in the college ranks who can come in and be

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Speaker 1: successful right away. That's unprecedented. And also teams are letting

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Speaker 1: good guys get away, like Philip Rivers. Philip Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, guys well like Ryan Tannehill who's had some success.

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's on the trading block because they've got a

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Speaker 1: drafted a young guy quarterbacks with playoff success. You never

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Speaker 1: saw that in decades past. And now, like I said,

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Speaker 1: it's a music game of musical chairs at the quarterback

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Speaker 1: position and there's not enough seats. You know, somebody's gonna

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Speaker 1: be left stand. Some of these guys aren't gonna be happy,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be interesting to see how it plays out.

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Speaker 1: And the first one is Tom Tom Brady. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's like, it's like Joe Montana and it's like Peyton Manning. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's happening more and more. But yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: this is the topic around the NFL, so particularly in

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Speaker 1: the in the AFC because he's been sitting there in

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Speaker 1: the championship game for like ten ten straight years up

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Speaker 1: until this last year. It's amazing. Yeah, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Give us a call? Eight fifty toll free one, eight

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Speaker 1: fifty two, five fifty. Let's go to the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. Other than the Patriots, which AFC

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Speaker 1: team to sign Tom Brady would worry you the most?

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Speaker 1: What do you see in the tweet sheets? Right from

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Speaker 1: Anthony says, I feel like the Colts already have a

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Speaker 1: good team in place, They're a quarterback away from being

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Speaker 1: a contender. If they could get Brady that he could

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Speaker 1: put them over the hump. That's a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are sitting in that camp. Also from Josh, he says,

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Speaker 1: I'm not really too worried about any team getting him.

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Speaker 1: With Trey White and Josh Norman now about to strike

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00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: fear in the closing quarterbacks, Brady or not. There's a

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Speaker 1: guy who has some pretty optimistic views about where the

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Speaker 1: Bills are headed this season. I'm not there yet. We'll see,

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Speaker 1: We'll see. I know I've got a lot of faith

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Speaker 1: in Trey White, but who plays opposite him has yet

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Speaker 1: to be determined. Here's a tweet from Jack who says,

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Speaker 1: gotta beat Tennessee. They beat Tom Brady last season. If

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Speaker 1: they got better quarterback play, they could have taken Kansas

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Speaker 1: City in the AFC Championship. The team with Derrick Henry

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Speaker 1: should he resign, and their wide receivers, that team with

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and their wide receivers and defense would be scary.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we have to play them. I really hope

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Speaker 1: he signs in Tampa. Yeah, that's the unspoken thing on

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00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll. I guess the obvious best case scenario

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Speaker 1: for the Bills would be Brady going to the NFC.

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Speaker 1: I think at this point, see we should talk about

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Speaker 1: how good Brady is because many of the people on

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Speaker 1: Twitter who are responding and saying, don't worry about him.

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Speaker 1: He's washed up, he doesn't have it anymore. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about that. He's got some of it left. He's

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Speaker 1: not where he was five years ago, to be sure,

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Speaker 1: but he's not. I don't think he's washed up. I

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Speaker 1: think we're talking about one of the all time greats.

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Speaker 1: He's an ultimate competitor. I think the challenge a new

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Speaker 1: team would present the Brady would probably bring up the

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Speaker 1: best of him. I'm not saying he's where he was

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Speaker 1: five years ago, but he's pretty good. He's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: That's at least my take. What do you think they

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00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: won twelve games with him? Yeah, now they had a

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00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: great defense. He had no help. They tried very hard

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Speaker 1: to get him some help and couldn't. So I think

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Speaker 1: because of that, the guy can still play. That's all

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Speaker 1: I can say. You're gonna have teams lined up for him.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just because his name happens to be

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. It's because they watched the film. If they

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00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: didn't think he could help him win, they wouldn't grab him. Now,

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00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: you can make an argument that the La Chargers or

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00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders they need somebody and they need

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Speaker 1: some bump and some pr whatever to get some sell

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Speaker 1: some tickets. The football end of it, won't sign the

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Speaker 1: guy if he can't play, if they don't think they

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Speaker 1: can he can play. And you know, look at the

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Speaker 1: and this just end so the Bills he at the

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Speaker 1: end of a bad season when Tom Brady can't play,

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00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: he went twenty six to thirty three against Buffalo for

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Speaker 1: two seventy one and a TV and a one to

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Speaker 1: eleven rating. The guy can still play. And that was

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Speaker 1: against the top three defense in the National Football League

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00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: and he had zero people to help him. So say

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00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: what you want. He won twelve games last year by

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00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: himself and with a defense. And there's a lot of

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00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: teams out there who think that they've got a better

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Speaker 1: offensive weapon system than the New England Patriots did last year,

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Speaker 1: even if they don't have that kind of defense. The

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00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: guy can still play. Hey, what does it mean when

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00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: people on Twitter use all caps? Does that mean they're yelling?

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00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: I think it does. Somebody yelling at us Ze Bills

545
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 1: mafia Z. Can we please talk about something other than

546
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady or the Patriots. No, not today, last three.

547
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: We can talk about anything, but this is what our

548
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: titles to. Last three times I've watched one Bills Live.

549
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: It seems like one Patriots Live. Please give it a break.

550
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: For the love of God, most of that in caps.

551
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: Well again, it's the most important story this month in

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00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: the NFL. It is likely to end in the next week.

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00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: It does affect the Bills, It affects Bills opponents, It

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00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: affects who wins the AFC East. It is today's topic.

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00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: And you can talk about play if we play that

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00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: team twice, yeah, and we are oh and don't even

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00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: get me yeah, all right. So this coaching staff, even

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00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 1: as good as they've been, they have yet to win

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00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: a game against the Patriots. What do you think, other

560
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: than the Patriots, which AFC team would you think would

561
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: be a problem for the Bills? If Tom Brady signs here,

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00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: give us a call. We're gonna go to the phone

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00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: lines when we return. Eighth three five fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell from ESPN's going to join us later today

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00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: to talk about Brady and other issues as well. The

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00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: new CBA Free Agency next week. Bill Barnwell at two

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Speaker 1: How you doing. I'm just comfortable. You know, it's harder

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00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: work for me when you're not here. I gotta say,

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00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure sees how I carry the load like well,

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00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: I didn't say that. It's just I don't know. He

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00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: got Chris Brown, who's great, or your son Luke, who's great.

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00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: Both great guests, but you don't know quite how they're

578
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: gonna respond to certain cues and certain things I say

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00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: with you. I think after coming up on two years, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I understand what you're gonna say. I don't

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00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: always agree with what you say, but I think I

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00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: have a good feeling what you're gonna say, and I

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00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, we're about comfort level. Yeah, we're by

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00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: five weeks from two years. Yeah, yep, yep, yep, it's

585
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: been a long time. Our question of the day gives

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00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: me pause. I guess obviously. Obviously we both paused question

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Speaker 1: of the day other than the Patriots, which AFC East No,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I always want to say that, but it's

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00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: not which AFC team if they signed Tom Brady would

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00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: give you the biggest Harday, who would worry you the most?

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Speaker 1: Is it a topic that we've discussed before? No, have

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00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: we discussed Tom Brady before? Yes? Is the Brady situation

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Speaker 1: coming to a resolution in the next week, Yes, we

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00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: hope so, yes, right, so do I that's a big

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00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: step for everybody, not just you know, if we're sitting

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Speaker 1: here watching those guys and we play against him twice

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00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: a year. But it's a little historic, sure, I mean right,

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00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: think about it the same thing and most most of

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Speaker 1: our listeners are probably too young to remember Joe Montana

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00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: going to them from the forty nine ers where he

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00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: won three Super Bowls two three or four three Super

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Speaker 1: Bowls with the forty nine Ers, going to Kansas City

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Speaker 1: and playing for four years there. I believe he was

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Speaker 1: traded there and he got him to the champion AFC

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Speaker 1: Championship Game. The Kansas City Chiefs only to lose to

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00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, so it was a little historic. He

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00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: might not remember that if if you're a Buffalo Bills fan,

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Speaker 1: but of less than a certain age. But it doesn't

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Speaker 1: happen very often, and certainly it happened in your lifetime

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Speaker 1: when Peyton Manning left the Indianapolis Colts to go on

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Speaker 1: and go to two and win one Super Bowl with

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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. Should have gone to three and didn't.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it doesn't happen often. But Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: I think he can still play, and I think there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of people out there who who believe

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Speaker 1: it as well. It's interesting to think about all this

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Speaker 1: for me, Murph, because I think about it still think

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Speaker 1: about it from a player perspective, and I can't. I

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Speaker 1: could never pretend to know what he's thinking of what's

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Speaker 1: important to him. I can only go by what's been reported.

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Speaker 1: I don't think money's the final thing. I think respect is.

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Speaker 1: I think when one of these teams comes out and

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Speaker 1: rolls out the red carpet and gives him a ton

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Speaker 1: of money guaranteed and a commitment to where he's forty

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Speaker 1: five years old and a landing spot where he feels

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Speaker 1: like he could at least compete right away. Yeah, I

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00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be pretty pretty enticing. But I also

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Speaker 1: don't know that he's not just gonna go out there

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Speaker 1: to make a point, you know, and he gets he

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Speaker 1: gets sixty five million dollars over three years, sixty five

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Speaker 1: million of it's guaranteed from the Los Angeles Chargers, or

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Speaker 1: it's the same kind of thing from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

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Speaker 1: or the Tennessee Titans offer him thirty two million a

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Speaker 1: year for three years to guarantee it. All of this stuff,

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Speaker 1: that's possible that he just might not say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I see all that, and I'm gonna go back to

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Speaker 1: New England. I'm gonna rub your face is in it,

639
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Speaker 1: because it's never been about money for me. I don't

640
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: think it is about money, right, I don't. I think

641
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: you pointed out I think a couple of our guests

642
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: of last week, it's about term. It's about who's going

643
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: to give him an opportunity to be a starter, not

644
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: a backup, but be a starter for at least two years,

645
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: maybe three. And that's and the other thing, whoever, And

646
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: you see our Twitter poll and we put up who

647
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: tightens Raiders, Colts. Who's the third team up there? I

648
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: don't even know. Let me look who Chargers, Chargers, who's

649
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: set up to do that to give him a two

650
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: or three year deal. Who's ready to turn over the

651
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: keys to the car to Tom Brady as good as

652
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: he was and as good as he might be still

653
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: not as good as he used to be, who's ready

654
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: to turn over the keys to the car to him.

655
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: I think it's the Chargers. And I think the Chargers,

656
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: with their talent collection, I think they'd be a problem

657
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: for the Bills in the AFC. You know, I think

658
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: the Bills probably think of themselves soon, if not this year,

659
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: as challengers for the AFC title Super Bowl representative for

660
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: the AFC. You put Tom Brady on the Chargers, even

661
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: with his diminished skills, he's a difference maker, and I

662
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: think he'd make a difference here. I don't know if

663
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: you could say that about the Raiders, certainly and some

664
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: of the others, the Colts, etc. The Titans. Is he

665
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: a difference maker? I'd listen to that. And Steve made

666
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: that argument how he'd be better than Tannehill and how

667
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: that great defense and a very good running back, they

668
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: get him resigned, what a difference he would make. I'd

669
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: listen to that, But I think that's part of it too,

670
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: like which team would benefit the most from having him,

671
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: which team is set up for a run, and which

672
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: team maybe is is poised for a run now as

673
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: opposed to five years from now, because five years is

674
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: too long. Yeah, you can't wait five years with Tom

675
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: Brady as your quarterback. I think you're not gonna do that.

676
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: They're gonna wait five years. Five years. You could tear

677
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: it down and rebuild it every place, not just to

678
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: start over. Yeah, So I'm I think it's all about

679
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: the next two or three years, And I think it's

680
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: about the, like you said, the length of term, and

681
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: who's gonna guarantee him some cash, and how viable a

682
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: championship is in that city. Tampa Bay is a great spot,

683
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: especially with Bruce Arians. He's a quarterback whisper, a very

684
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: quarterback friendly guy, seems to get the most out of

685
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: his His guys had some success with veteran quarterbacks, even

686
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston led the league and throwing last year thirty

687
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: touchdowns and stuff, And you can't blame Bruce Arians. For

688
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: having Jamis throw thirty picks. He's not the one pulling

689
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: the trigger well for the touchdown passes either. Yeah, you

690
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: know that is though. I mean, I don't know how

691
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: you blame the coach for that. He's given the guy

692
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: all the stuff it And listen, if you I've weet

693
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: you and I both have seen the picks. Quarterback is

694
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: just as easily throw it over their head if it's

695
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 1: if it's covered, and he won't do it. He didn't

696
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: do it, so I think he's Yeah, I think Tampa

697
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: Bay's a really intriguing spot. But if you know, and

698
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: Tom Brady would be going outside the conference, that'd be

699
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: fine with me. Like I said, I just keep going

700
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: back to it. I think there. I think New England's

701
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: going to continue to be very successful whether he's there

702
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: or not. They want twelve games with him this year.

703
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: They had didn't have enough offense to get it done.

704
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: They certainly had enough defense. But that in and of

705
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: itself tells me Tom Brady can still play that. I

706
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: just read the stats from his last game against Buffalo,

707
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: where he was twenty six to thirty three for two

708
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one yards. He threw it pretty good

709
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: that day. Yeah, yeah, he's capable of that. Let's take

710
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: a phone call about our topic. Other than the Patriots,

711
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: which AFC team would give you the most trouble if

712
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: you're the Bills, if Tom Brady winds up there. Let's

713
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: take a call here from Ken in Watertown, New York. Hello, Ken,

714
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Good afternoon, guys, Thanks for taking

715
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: my call. Sure, I like comment about Tom Brady. If

716
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: the Titans pick him up, don't you think the Titans

717
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: are just looking for a one year deal so they

718
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: can get to win a Super Bowl. I don't think

719
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: they're looking for a long term with him. I mean

720
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: he's forty two and I can't see him being, you know,

721
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: a long term with that. I think they're looking just

722
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: try to, you know, win a Super Bowl and move

723
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: on from there. Well, here's the thing, Ken, it hasn't

724
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: been the Tennessee Titans or any of the teams that

725
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: have been saying they just want a one year deal.

726
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: It's been Tom Brady and the reports about why he

727
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: was unhappy in New England, and that is he wants

728
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: a commitment from a team that they're gonna let him

729
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: play till he's forty five. And if you're the Tennessee

730
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: Titans and you believe without a doubt that you can

731
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl and this coming year and that

732
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: guy could make the difference for you, I'm pretty sure

733
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna say, you know what, We're gonna take the

734
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: world championship if we can, and we'll put up with

735
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: him for another two years after winning a world world championship.

736
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: I think that the long term deal is part of

737
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: Brady's expectations for whichever team grabs him. Not so much Tennessee.

738
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're right, Tennessee. I think some people see

739
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: Tom Brady as more of a stop gap or maybe

740
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: a one or maybe a two year guy. But I

741
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: think to get him, you're gonna have to get him

742
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 1: what he wants, and that is a long term deal,

743
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: a longer term deal. If there's no more than a

744
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: one year deal out there for Brady, he would stay

745
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: with New England, right Yeah. If you told him you're

746
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: only going to play one more year, If you told

747
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: him man in Tennessee, if you told him that in

748
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: my or in Tampa, if you told him that anywhere

749
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: Raiders La, He'd say, whatever, I'm gonna stay in Boston

750
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: see would do with him. I want to twelve games

751
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: there certainly not some money, you know, I mean, there's

752
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: certainly not anything has to do with the money, because

753
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure as a Patriots will pay Tom Brady whatever

754
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: he wants stay there. So well, the problem has been

755
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: they wouldn't pay him whatever he wants because they wanted

756
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: him to play for lesson so they could build the

757
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: team around him. And that's part of the problem here.

758
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: He's made a ton of money, no question about it.

759
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's not the deal, but the money does

760
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 1: say this, It does say commitment to him. If they're

761
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: going to give him a three year deal and whatever

762
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: the guarantees are, maybe it's more important for Tom Brady

763
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: that he gets three year deal rather than seventy five

764
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: million dollars or eighty million dollars guaranteed. Maybe he just

765
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: wants a three year deal and or whatever the money is.

766
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: And that to me is the thanks for your call.

767
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: By the way, Ken phone lines open at eight three

768
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five

769
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. This question of term or the deal,

770
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: length of the deal, to me is the question that

771
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's got to be wrestling with him. Look, I

772
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: guess I don't. I don't believe. Maybe he has. I

773
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: don't believe that Belichick has made up his mind once

774
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: and for all what he's gonna do. Maybe he has,

775
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: but I don't think he has. And I'm sure what

776
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: he's thinking is, ideally we'd we'd give Brady a one

777
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: year deal, keep around, see what he's got left, and

778
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: play one year like that, and then he's thinking, well,

779
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: he wants two or more years. Am I prepared to

780
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: tie us up for two more years with that guy

781
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: at the kind of money we're talking about. I don't

782
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: know if Belichick's would do. If Belichick would do that,

783
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: he wants to win, whether Brady's there or not. He

784
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: wants to not be handcuffed by a big, huge salary,

785
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: whether you know, if for several years, if Brady returns,

786
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: And I bet I don't think he's made up his mind, Belichick,

787
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm wrong, but I think he's probably wrestling

788
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: with the term of the deal. Well, knowing that Brady

789
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: wants more than a one year deal, and Belticks thinking,

790
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: what's you We don't want to do more than a

791
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: one year, right? And I think they've been doing one

792
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: year deals with him thus far, and it's starting to

793
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: get tiresome for Brady. And this last year was reported

794
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: it was a low number and it had incentive laden,

795
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 1: so Brady had to earn it. To me, nothing could

796
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: be less logical than to give the most highly motivated

797
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: player that's ever cut across the pike here with Tom Brady.

798
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's legendarily motivated. You don't have to incentivize

799
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: his deals. He's always playing, right, I mean, he's that

800
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: guy's gonna show up and he's gonna try and win

801
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: every game, and he's trying to win in March. I mean,

802
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: Ross Tucker told us that last week. The guy just

803
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: is relentless. That's the one guy you don't have to

804
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 1: worry about giving them money too. He's gonna do everything

805
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: he can to outplay the contract no matter what it is.

806
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: So to me, that makes no sense. If you know

807
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna be highly motivated, you know he's gonna want

808
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: to get it done. He's the last guy that you

809
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: think the money's gonna change. I don't know why you

810
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it, particularly if it's not guaranteed, if the

811
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: if the Patriots wanted to do this, they just give

812
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: him three years nothing guaranteed or a little bit of

813
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: most you know, or you know, two thirds of it guaranteed,

814
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: and each year that they pick up the option and say, yeah,

815
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: you're here for three years, let's go. But they haven't.

816
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: And I don't know why they wouldn't do that, knowing

817
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: that they could cut ties with him whenever they wanted to.

818
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: Although maybe that's it. Maybe they when it push comes

819
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: to shove, they don't want to be the ones to

820
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: say goodbye in the relationship. But man, that's that's soap

821
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: opera stuff, you know, want to base business decisions on that. Hey,

822
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna recheck the Twitter poll in a moment and

823
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: we'll take more phone calls and read more tweets. Other

824
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: than the Patriots, which AFC team would worry you the most?

825
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: If Tom Brady went to them, Hey, I didn't get

826
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: a chance. Stuck to you, seem about the signing of

827
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: Josh Norman yesterday. You weren't here yesterday. Any brief thoughts

828
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: on that acquisition and what he might mean to that.

829
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: It's easy to it's easy to justify the guy had

830
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: some really good success under Sean McDermott. They're not really

831
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: giving him that much. I don't know if any of

832
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: it's guaranteed. None of it's been reported as being guaranteed.

833
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: Six million bucks. If he can and if he can

834
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: make the team and play and earn it, you gotta think, yeah,

835
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: it's it's a steal for Buffalo. That's exactly the kind

836
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: of guy you do want to sign to a one year,

837
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: prove a deal. So, yeah, Josh, they didn't give him anything.

838
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: He's got to come in and earn it. And if

839
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: he does, hey, we're gonna be really happy with him.

840
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't, they don't know him anything. And

841
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: it's no skin off our chin, and thanks for stopping by.

842
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: There's no risk, man, you could get a guy who

843
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: could play really well with something to prove. I mentioned

844
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: this to Chris Brown yesterday, one of the initial takes

845
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: I had on the Jash Norman signing and the fact

846
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: that it's a one year deal. The Buffalo Bills have

847
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: become the kings of one year deals when you look

848
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: at what they did with the offensive line last year,

849
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: when you look at Jordan signing him to a one

850
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: year deal, they have figured out a kind of a

851
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: new way around high priced potentially high price free agent

852
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: signed them to a one year deal, approve it deal.

853
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: Maybe you lose them, maybe they lose Jordan Phillips this year,

854
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: and maybe you don't. Maybe you keep them if you

855
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: have a good atmosphere and a good culture. And I

856
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: think Josh Norman may respond to that, right And there's

857
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: always there seems to be always a big group of

858
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: veteran players who have either hit hard times with the

859
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: team they're on or on the street for one reason

860
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: or another. They outprice themselves, right, they outprice themselves or whatever.

861
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: But it's great to get them when they want to

862
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: be the guy to prove it and hit one more

863
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: good contract with a team. And it's perfect scenario for

864
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: a guy like Josh Norman. They're gonna be more guys

865
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: out there like that. You're hearing names getting dropped off

866
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: the waiver wire even today, guys are getting released. So

867
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: I think it's a perfect signing. It gives them a

868
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: veteran guy who has had some experience and some success

869
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: in this exact defense for this coach, and he's got

870
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: something to prove. Yeah, that's big, that's big. All right,

871
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: We got a break, We're coming back. We'll do more

872
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: Brady talk. Sorry, but we're gonna do more Brady talk

873
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: when we return. Give us a call eight three fifty

874
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: toll free from outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five

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00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. It's One Bills Live, presented by

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00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: Kalaida Hell from the Seneca Studios. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

877
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: Welcome back One Bills Live, John Murphy and Steve Tasker. Yeah,

878
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: talking about a variety of topics here today. Tom Brady

879
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 1: on the top of the list our Twitter poll today,

880
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: other than the New England Patriots, which is where he

881
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: may return. Which AFC team if they signed Tom Brady

882
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: would worry you the most. Let's take a look at

883
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: the Twitter poll so far. I know people are sick

884
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: of talking about Tom Brady. We are as well. Guarantee

885
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: there's only about a week left where his decision is

886
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: made up. We've hit four to twenty seven votes in

887
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: on the Twitter poll and sixty nine percent say the

888
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: Titans would worry them the most if he were to

889
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: sign with the Tennessee Titans. Fourteen percent say the Los

890
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers, eleven percent say somebody else, six percent say

891
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: the raiders, give us a call eight O three five

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Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

893
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Speaker 1: five fifty. Yes there, Steve. Now, I just he's coming

894
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: across this because he's guys start at this point, guys

895
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: starts signing extensions. There's you know, they start getting because

896
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: teams will start getting their payroll in line. So when

897
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: free agency starts, they know, you know, kind of have

898
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: a more concrete number with what they're working with. Houston

899
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: just signed their kicker, Kimi Fairbairn, four year, seventeen point

900
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: six five million and a nine million is guaranteed, So

901
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: I do an hour on him. Yeah, that's you talk about.

902
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: That's a big number for a kicker. Yeah, yeah, I

903
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: don't know what his numbers were last year, and and

904
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't really here to talk about the kicker, but

905
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff that's going on. It's a

906
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: little bit of a dry spell for us here because

907
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: we're kind of waiting, tapping our foot for the tampering

908
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: to begin so we can get to free agency. The

909
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: only thing it'll be worse is if they pushed free

910
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: agency back like they did the franchise and and uh

911
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: transition TA next Monday, right, and that a little bit

912
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: as that has to do with a vote of the

913
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: CBA that's coming up, and it's that they've extended a

914
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: lot of businesses up in the air for the NFL

915
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: and guys like us, and I think all over the media,

916
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: you know, the media world, we're all kind of tapping

917
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: our feet waiting for this thing to drop. And part

918
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: of it is waiting for Brady to make his move.

919
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: Make Brady. It's it's Brady, it's the CBA, it's the

920
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: salary cap. It's all the guys now. Teams, like I said,

921
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: that's why you're getting teams releasing guys. Christian Kirksey was

922
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: released from the Browns today. Um, you've got all these,

923
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: Josh Norman was released a while back, and these other guys.

924
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: Then they picked up Spencer Long's option here in Buffalo,

925
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: the backup offensive lineman who can place center guard. So

926
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: teams are starting to get their ducks in a row

927
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: ready for this tampering period to begin. And we've got

928
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: to kind of have to sit and wait talk about

929
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: anything we can think of until something more interesting happens.

930
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: But this Brady thing is intriguing for a lot of reasons. Hey,

931
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: meantime while they wait for the votes, and the votes

932
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: will continue now until Saturday. The NFL Players Association, meaning

933
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: in Florida, they have voted on a new president today.

934
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: Eric Winston is out longtime president. The new president of

935
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: the NFL Player Association just elected in the last five minutes.

936
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: JC Treder, offensive lineman for the Cleveland Browns actual New York.

937
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. So it's tweeted out by the NFLPA.

938
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: JC Tretor is the new president of the NFLPA, elected

939
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: by their Board of Player Reps. So all thirty two

940
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: or a majority of the thirty two voted for j

941
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: See Treder. You know him well. He was Luke's college

942
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: roommate of Cornell, your co host last Friday, his four

943
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: year college roommate. He was just in his wedding. Jac

944
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: just got married. He's got in California. Now he's just

945
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: been elected as the players Yeah, Jac was. He came

946
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: to Cornell as a tight end and was a really

947
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: good athlete, which is why now he's playing offensive lineman

948
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: into your offensive line for the Browns. He was a

949
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: left tackle in the IVY League, moved down inside, was

950
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: a guard center for the Brett Packers for the first

951
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: four years, and he signed the big deal to go

952
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: to Cleveland. And now look at look at him. Go

953
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: smart kid. Uh, he's gonna be a He's gonna be

954
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: a plus for the players. I can tell you that's

955
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: a great hires, a great decision by the Players Association.

956
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: I think this morning, I said to our producer Jay Harris,

957
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: we and not that he can't get we probably can't

958
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: get him on today while they meet, But jac Treder

959
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: belongs on our show. With your relationship with him, I've

960
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: bet him before. Yeah, he's an impressive I met him

961
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: when he was at the Senior Bowl, coming a great

962
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: kid coming out of Cornell, good college player, a really

963
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: good NFL player, Sharpen or take like offensive lineman r

964
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: He's kind of articulate, good communicator because they you know,

965
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: and his lights are on. And obviously it was an

966
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: Ivy League kid. So he's his Cornell degreed. By the way,

967
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: is industrial and labor relations perfect for the NFLPA right,

968
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: good for him? Acron, New York native Right, Akron. I

969
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: heard somebody say he was from somewhere else out that way,

970
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: but I think he's from acron. I don't care about

971
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: all that, and I want to know how he feels

972
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: about this CBA agreement. I think he's in favor of it.

973
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: He I don't know if he is or not, but

974
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to hear his take on it, whether

975
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: it passes or not, because he probably won't be around

976
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: for the next negotiations. Steve this just in neither one

977
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: of us will be around for I think we had

978
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: a clip from him last week talking about the CBA

979
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: before he was president. Maybe he's backed off on that

980
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: a little bit. Maybe we didn't. I thought we did

981
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: a good kid. He's the new president of the NFL

982
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: Players Association. J C. Treder, acer New York native Cornell

983
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: just elected today. At the NFLPA meetings, we're gonna talk

984
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 1: more about the CBA, the impact of the delayed vote

985
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: now on a new CBA. JC Tredder their new president,

986
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: what they asked to do. We're going to continue our

987
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: discussion about Tom Brady if he doesn't stay with the Patriots,

988
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: which AFC team if he goes to them, would present

989
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: the most problems for the bills. What do you think

990
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. We'll take phone calls we'll read

991
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: more from the tweet sheet. Eighth three five fifty The

992
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: number to call on your phones outside Buffalo toll free

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Speaker 1: call at one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Our number one is in the books. Coming back for

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00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: our number two. One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health

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Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio, Seneca Resorts and Casino. Nothing comes close.

997
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: Hello the Old Stadio Network Stories. Update update from one

998
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: Bills Live. The Bills getting busy again today as they've

999
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: locked up a couple of their current players. Offensive I'm

1000
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: in backup. Offensive lineman Spencer Long is coming back. The

1001
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: Bills picked up the option on his contract, according to

1002
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: Field Yates of ESPN, a long space salary this year

1003
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: two point five million dollars his cap hit four point

1004
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: one two five. Long played fourteen games with the Bills

1005
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: last year's first season in Buffalo, a reserve alignment on

1006
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: the interior, capable of playing neither guard or center. In addition,

1007
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: the Bills decided to resign cornerback Levi By Wallace and

1008
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver Robert Foster, both of whom were exclusive rights

1009
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: free agents. Wallace started all sixteen games last year, finished

1010
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: with nine pass defense, two interceptions and seventy six tackles. Foster,

1011
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: coming off a disappointing year, got just three passes for

1012
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: sixty four yards in thirteen games. The Bills busy today

1013
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: announcing that they didn't announce it yet, but reported that

1014
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: they've exercised the option on Spencer Long and resigned exclusive

1015
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: rights free agents Levi Wallace and Robert Foster. Bills reportedly

1016
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 1: have a visitor this week, a potential draft pick, Miami

1017
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: linebacker Shack Quarterman, coming in on a free draft visit. Quarterman,

1018
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: described by mel Kiper, is a mid round prospect in

1019
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: this year's draft class. In his career with the Hurricanes,

1020
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: Quarterman had three hundred and fifty six tackles, twelve sacks,

1021
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: one interception, and thirteen passes defense. NFL Player Association meeting

1022
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 1: in Florida today, they've elected actro New York native JC

1023
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: Tredder as their new president for Policing, Eric Winston. The

1024
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: NFL player Reps have voted down a resolution that would

1025
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: have allowed players to who've already voted on the proposed

1026
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: CBA to change their votes. The union did extend the

1027
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: voting window by forty eight hours. It is now the

1028
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: deadline midnight on Saturday, and they've also moved back the

1029
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: franchise transition tag deadline from Thursday at four pm to

1030
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: Monday at eleven fifty nine A on Monday at noon.

1031
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: That'll be interesting those tags coming out right as the

1032
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: legal tampering period begins. Pro Football Hall of Fame game

1033
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: played in Canton, Ohio, August six. It's going to be

1034
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: the Steelers and the Cowboys that announced today and the

1035
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: Sabers one last night, three two shootout victory over Washington.

1036
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: They move on to play at Montreal on Thursday night.

1037
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: That's it. Welcome back to the show, John Murphy, Steve

1038
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: Tasker in our Seneca studio in Archerd Park. Had a

1039
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: hard rain fall on the last fifteen minutes ago. Let

1040
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: me hear it, No, no, not anymore down. We can

1041
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: always hear it. We got what do you call that

1042
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: a metal roof, corrugated. Yeah, you can always hear the

1043
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: rain here. It's a great place. No, it's great, but

1044
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: we don't hear it now, so I think it's stopped, rainy.

1045
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: Happy to have you with us here today. And yeah,

1046
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: a couple of things going on. Let's talk about what's

1047
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: going on? Well, let's talk about our Twitter poll first. Okay,

1048
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: Brady's gonna make up his mind in a week, you

1049
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: would think, right, March eighteenth is going to be the

1050
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: day when free agency begins. Next Monday is the day

1051
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 1: when legal tampering can begin other than the Patriots, assuming

1052
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: he does not go back to the Patriots, which may

1053
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: or may not happen. If Brady were to go to

1054
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: which AFC team? Which one would give you the most heartache?

1055
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: Which one would be the most trouble for the Bills?

1056
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: If Brady were to go elsewhere in the AFC, give

1057
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Speaker 1: us a call eight o three five fifty toll free

1058
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We'll

1059
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: take calls on that. We offered up a couple of

1060
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: solutions on a couple of answers on our Twitter poll.

1061
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: The Raiders, the Chargers, um, who else? Raiders? Chargers, Titans, Titans, Yeah,

1062
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 1: other and most people think the Titans. Maybe you think differently.

1063
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't want to talk about Tom Brady. That's okay,

1064
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: give us a call and talk about something else that

1065
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: you're built top fifty twelve three one eight eight five.

1066
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: Just before we went to the break, we learned the

1067
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: jc treader and acro native here in Western New York

1068
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: in the center for the Cleveland Browns was elected as

1069
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: the nflpa's new president, and that takes effect immediately, and

1070
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: it was big. It's big because there was a lot

1071
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: of fear, particularly on the owner's side of it, that

1072
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: if Eric Winston, the outgoing president, his term was up,

1073
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: they might have to go back to square one in

1074
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: the negotiations over this new CBA. I don't think that'll

1075
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: be the case with j C as the president because

1076
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: he's been involved in the ongoing negotiations up to this point,

1077
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: so it won't be like they have to start over

1078
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, here's how we got to this point,

1079
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: here's got to that point. He'll be well versed in

1080
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: how the evolution of these negotiations have taken place, so

1081
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: they'll be able to pick up where they left off.

1082
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: At least in my mind, that would be the case.

1083
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: That was a big concern, not only for the owners.

1084
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: Should Eric Winston be done, it all depends also on

1085
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: how this vote goes. Now, the big thing with this

1086
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: vote is and I'm interested to find out why there

1087
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: seems to be a voice out there in the players

1088
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: ranks that some of the guys want to change their

1089
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: votes from what they've already voted. A thousand guys have

1090
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: already voted. There I think seventeen or nineteen hundred guys

1091
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 1: eligible to vote, who have paid dues in the union

1092
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: this year, who were active or are active or about

1093
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: to be active, A reactive, A number, some number, undetermined

1094
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: number want to change their vote from what they've already voted.

1095
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: I don't know why that is all of a sudden,

1096
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: what piece of information has come out, and maybe it's

1097
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: a different one for all of them. I don't know

1098
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: what that is. And there's been this and we just

1099
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: got this article in and put in front of us

1100
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 1: as well, where there's some criticism towards We've all heard

1101
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers against the CBA, uh, JJ watt Is against

1102
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: the CBA more uh and Russell Wilson to name three

1103
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: really big stars in the league who have come out

1104
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: against the CBO. Yeah, but the three that I mentioned

1105
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, um, Yeah, Aaron Rodgers, the Pouncy Brothers, Russell Wilson,

1106
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 1: and JJ Watt. Um. They now are kind of getting

1107
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: some criticism because JJ watt, Aaron Rodgers, and Russell Wilson

1108
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: didn't go to any the meetings going on in Florida. Well, no,

1109
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: the player, Aaron Rodgers is a player rep uh and

1110
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: he he wasn't at the meetings he's used. You know

1111
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: that they aren't. They're the meetings, the annual meetings of

1112
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: the NFLPA Players Association. They can be attended by any

1113
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: player that wants to be there. And those guys were

1114
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: noticeably absent from those meetings and yet are still criticizing

1115
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: the CBA, whether they have details of it or not.

1116
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: You'd think that they would take that opportunity to go

1117
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: and make their case. They didn't, except for Marquise the

1118
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: Pouncy Brothers did they have been present at those meetings

1119
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: and are using that as their vehicle to kind of

1120
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: sway guys and to think the ways they think they

1121
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: should go. But and I knew it going in and

1122
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 1: we heard this too from Russell o'coon, the offensive tackle

1123
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: who actually was going to run for the presidency and

1124
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: then did not. You know, it's been it's it's getting

1125
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: a little bit it looks like it's getting a little

1126
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: bit full of turmoil over there on the NFL, on

1127
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: the players side, as this vote comes out, and now

1128
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: that there's been this election with JC Tredder, we'll see

1129
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 1: if that steadies the waters or makes them more murky.

1130
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't know whether this is a typical union scenario

1131
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: what happens when unions are making a decision like this,

1132
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: But to my mind, seven years now deck aids of

1133
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: following the NFL this is and there are only very few.

1134
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they haven't done this in ten years, but

1135
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: this year kind of reflects the way it's always been

1136
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: around the NFLPA, right, I mean, maybe you can tell

1137
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: me when you played what it was like, but it's

1138
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: always been the kind of a loose group of independent

1139
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: contractors who banded together to get the CBA. They signed

1140
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: the CBA, and then people just sort of ignore to

1141
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: walk away from it. There's always been stars and others,

1142
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, and the stars clearly many of them not

1143
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: happy with this CBA proposal, and everybody else. The first, second,

1144
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: third year players stand to get one hundred thousand dollars

1145
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: a year raise, They're like, Okay, let's go for it.

1146
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: I got to make that team before I even worry

1147
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: about any of this. Is it that much different than

1148
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: it was when you played a little bit. I think

1149
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: I perceived that it was a union more together back

1150
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: a little bit, because there wasn't such a vast gulf

1151
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: between the halves and halves not so a free agency

1152
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: has changed that You've got guys that are you know,

1153
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: now have generational wealth because of their football careers, and

1154
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: then you've got guys who are just trying to get

1155
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: you a nice little springboard for the first few years

1156
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: of their working life out in the in the regular

1157
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: working world like the rest of us. And both of

1158
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: those guys at certain times are at working at obviously

1159
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: in certain issues of the CBA are working at cross purposes.

1160
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: So you know, the the guys who are you know,

1161
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: making generational wealth would like to see a bigger split

1162
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: of the pie, more money to be had so that

1163
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: they can get a bigger piece of it. The other

1164
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: guys are looking for. Listen, when I get out of this,

1165
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: I want to have a great a great pension. I

1166
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: want to have health insurance, and I want to have

1167
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: a severance package or something. You know, I want to

1168
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: be taking care of as much as I can down

1169
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: the road because I'm not going to be in this

1170
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: league for maybe more than three or four years. I'm

1171
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: not going to see a second contract, so it would

1172
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: be better for me if the we forced as a

1173
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: union the league to take care of the veteran guys

1174
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: who have played, make sure they're taking well of as

1175
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: taken care of as well as you can down the

1176
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: line when issues may crop up, because I'm not going

1177
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: to have the generational wealth where i can do it myself.

1178
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: So those are the cross purposes that you sometimes get

1179
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: within the union, and I think those have been as

1180
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: accentuated over the last two decades. Okay, NFL Players Player

1181
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: Association meeting today in Key Biskaine, Florida. As Steve said,

1182
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: they voted to more times for players to consider and

1183
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: vote on the proposal. It's now midnight on Saturday, and

1184
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: then today they announced that they voted to They've agreed

1185
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: with the League Management Council to move the franchise franchise

1186
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: transition tag deadline from Thursday at four this Thursday at

1187
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: four pm to next Monday at noon, allowing for the

1188
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: period known as legal tampering to begin as scheduled on Monday.

1189
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: Start of the league gear remains Wednesday, Marching team. These

1190
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: are all kind of technical points, but the point is

1191
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: the NFLPA. I think in the meeting yesterday described as

1192
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: lively and intense discussions about the post CBA, I think

1193
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: players in their union are kind of working through the

1194
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: issues created by, you know, two separate sets of interests here,

1195
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: the interests by the younger first, second, third year players

1196
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: on their original contracts making league minimum and the Superstars.

1197
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: As you said, there's a report out that the Stars,

1198
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, not even in attendance at KEYBIS game this week.

1199
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: Where are they? You know, they've been pretty active on

1200
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: social media, which is quite frankly, pretty easy to do,

1201
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: but not in attendance. And what does this have to

1202
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: do with the approval of the CBA. I don't know.

1203
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: The longer it goes, the less inclined I am to

1204
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: think it will be approved, right, don't you think? Yeah,

1205
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: so the deadline has been pushed back to midnight Saturday

1206
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: instead of midnight Thursday. And I know it's a four

1207
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: to fifty six page agreement, and I know it requires

1208
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: intense study, and there's nothing wrong with studying it, but

1209
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: the fact that they're waiting two days to me indicates said, oh,

1210
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: maybe this won't pass right off the bat, right, Yeah,

1211
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: particularly if you got not for nothing. But there's a

1212
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: number of guys in the nfl PA, just in the

1213
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: rank and file, let alone the executive committee, who are

1214
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: really sharp, really intelligent. The president who president is just

1215
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: one of them. JC. Tredder. There's gonna be a lot

1216
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: of guys who do want to sit down with this

1217
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: thing and roll through it. Certainly, they've got a legal

1218
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: team under contract that they're gonna be able. That legal

1219
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: team will be able to put it in layman's terms.

1220
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: For the guys who aren't well versed in legal ease,

1221
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: but they want to want to do that, they're gonna

1222
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: want to take the time to understand every nuance of

1223
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: this thing if they can, before they vote on it.

1224
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: Other guys will just say what are you How are

1225
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: you voting? You know. They'll ask a guy they respect,

1226
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: or a veteran, let's say, what do you think and

1227
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: the veteran will tell them he says, Okay, that's how

1228
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm voting too. Some of the guys are that superficial

1229
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: about it. Others they need to know it's this kind

1230
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: of guy they are, you know. So it's going to

1231
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: take some time to get these guys get their votes tallied.

1232
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: What's the impact on you as a fan, I don't

1233
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: know nothing right now, and if it's approved, I don't

1234
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: think you'll see much. You'll see a seventeen game regular

1235
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,040
Speaker 1: season eventually in twenty twenty one most likely, But so

1236
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: far as the impact on you the fan, I can't

1237
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: see much of any of an impact right as long

1238
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: as the money is still there and people still have

1239
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: money to spend on football. But there's no question that

1240
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: when people and Peter King wrote about it yesterday said,

1241
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: it's an important decision that will determine what NFL football

1242
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: looks like for the next decade, and that is important.

1243
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: It's the number one sport in the world, number one

1244
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: sport in America certainly, and that is important to determine

1245
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: the financial future of that number one sport. Again, will

1246
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: an impact the way we view it, the way we

1247
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: watch the Bills or any other team? Not well, seventeen

1248
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: games will be an impact, right and an expanded postseason,

1249
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: which is technically not part of the new CBA. But

1250
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how much impact it has on fans.

1251
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: I really don't know. Yeah, it's a perception. I'm sure

1252
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: it's just how they perceive the league. Whether it's labor

1253
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: piece or whatever. They'll think everything's great and everybody's doing

1254
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: really well. And you know, if it's not, if it's

1255
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: continues to be a contentious, you know, a point of

1256
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: contention between the owners and the players. But the owners

1257
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: in the union, I think the fans will feel obligated,

1258
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: at least in the human nature, you're going to pick

1259
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: a side, you know, in any given instance, in any

1260
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: given moment, they'll be able to pick a side to say, listen,

1261
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: the owners should do this, the players should do that.

1262
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: But that's about it. They're not gonna have a vote,

1263
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: they're not gonna have a voice. They can certainly voice

1264
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: their opinion with the with their wallet if they so desire.

1265
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, this this, it's going to be a long

1266
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: time before this is settled out, and it's gonna be

1267
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Speaker 1: a long time before we understand the ramifications. And and

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Speaker 1: I think the players are really smart to take their

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01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: time ratifying this because it seems to be functionally in

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01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: an eleven year deal and once you're in it, there

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01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: ain't no going back unless you want to strike. And

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01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: that's that's rough. Um, let's talk about this, talk about

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01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: Brady by the way, eight three fifty and toll free

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01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: and you mentioned it earlier. Have Christian Kirksey let him go?

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01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: The Browns wanted to restructures contract. He was gonna make

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01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: nine point nine five million this year, ten million plus

1278
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. They could not come to an agreement,

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01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: so they'll save more than fifteen million dollars on his cap. Kirksey.

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Speaker 1: Some people already are linking him to a guy that

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01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: could step in and play for the Bills. Played seven

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01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: games in twenty eighteen, two sacks in each of his

1283
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: first four seasons, career highs in twenty eighteen with two interceptions,

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01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: played special teams. Maybe he's a fit for the Buffalo Bills, huh.

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Speaker 1: And maybe he does. The special team's familiarity is something

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01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: that I think would appeal to the Bills. A guy

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Speaker 1: that might not be a starter per se as I said,

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01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: Lorenzo only started seven games last year, But a guy

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Speaker 1: who couldn't jump in and fill the bill, and maybe

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01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: fill the bill on special teams as well. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna and he would fill some of the production

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01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: that Lorenzo left behind, and it would be one of

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Speaker 1: those guys. If you've got to use more than one

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01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: guy to replace, you know, or fill out the roster,

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Speaker 1: A guy like Kirksey, who does a lot of stuff,

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01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: could be a perfect guy. Even if he doesn't start,

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01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, maybe if he doesn't only start seven games

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01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: for the Bills, he's still going to be a valuable

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01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: asset in the special teams area. I've read reports that

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Speaker 1: he's one of the all time great guys, great locker

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01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: room guy, great professional. Seems like he would fit the

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01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: DNA of what the Bills are looking for, so I'm

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01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: sure the Bills have already reached out to his representation

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01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: to find out what's what it's about, because he seems

1305
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: like the kind of role player the Bills thrive on.

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01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: We talked about that with a Josh Norman signing. I

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01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: think the Bills, Brandon being in particular, has identified this time,

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01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: this dead time that we lamented earlier in the show,

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01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,919
Speaker 1: a week before free agency begins with veterans coming free

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01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: on the market. I think he's identified this is maybe

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01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: a good time to sign guys like this, the one

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01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: year deals or whatever. Sign guys at value prices, bargains.

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Speaker 1: I guess, you know, you could say he did it

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Speaker 1: last year, was Spencer Long right about this time? He

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01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: did it yesterday with Josh Norman. Maybe Brandon Mean has

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01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: identified this time before they hit the open market and

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01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: get the free agency and these guys are all street

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01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: free agents. Kirksey now, Josh Norman yesterday, maybe he's identified.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of a value shopping period for the Bill. Yeah.

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01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 1: I mean Spencer Long was on the street for maybe

1321
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: a week last year before the Bills signed him after

1322
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Speaker 1: he was released by the Jets, so they've Yeah, I

1323
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: think it is a good time because and also from

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Speaker 1: the player's perspective, they're thinking, yeah, I don't have to

1325
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: wait for free agent when the market's going to be

1326
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: flooded and I may be down. I might have to

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01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: sit around and wait and they may find somebody that

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01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: I like better, you know, to have that security. Listen,

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01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: I got my deal. I can relax and I can

1330
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: just start training with an end game and I know

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01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: when training camp is, I know where I'm going to be,

1332
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: I know my new coaching staff. I can start getting

1333
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: to know these guys and I can get it done.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great place to be for a

1335
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: lot of guys and plus for most of them, particularly

1336
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: this time, most of them are getting released because, like

1337
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: I told you last week, Murph, they weren't able to

1338
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: live up to the contract they signed with their last team.

1339
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they are total flop. And Josh Norman

1340
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: took a lot of criticism for the way he played

1341
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: last year, and you'll find a lot of football people

1342
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: who say, well, he's not playing in the same as

1343
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: he did in Carolina because the defense is completely different

1344
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: and it doesn't fit his skill set. Okay, so Josh

1345
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: Norman can't live up to the contract for whatever reason.

1346
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: That's what these free agents have trouble doing. They go

1347
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: out and they hit a home run, Well, how are

1348
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: you gonna make thirty million bucks playing you know, backup

1349
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver? You know what I mean. I'm exaggerating obviously,

1350
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: to make a point. It's hard impossible for the free

1351
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: agent to live up to those contracts. So a couple

1352
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: of these guys are well, most of these guys that

1353
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: are getting released, it's not because they're a horrible player,

1354
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: it's just that their money's out of whack. And so

1355
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,959
Speaker 1: to get him back in the Bills, can Josh Norman

1356
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: may not have been worth fourteen or sixteen million, but

1357
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: he may be worth six million to the Bills, maybe eight.

1358
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: That's a pretty good spot to be in for the Bills,

1359
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: and I think it's a perfect place to get some

1360
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: of these guys that you know, yeah, they they couldn't

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01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: live up to an enormous contract, but man oh man,

1362
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: they've still got something to offer. And if you give

1363
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: them the right contract, they're certainly going to give you

1364
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: value for the money you're spending. And that's where you

1365
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: want to be in free agency. I do think the

1366
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: Bills are kind of leaders in the NFL in this category.

1367
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: And the same thing with Norman. Kurtsey may not be

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01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: worth what twenty million dollars for the next two seasons

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01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, right, but maybe half a ten million

1370
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: over two seasons for the Buffalo Bills, maybe, right. You

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01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: can look at right and that's and that's you know,

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01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: just a middle of the road kind of middle class

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01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 1: player in the NFL. And if you're not asking the

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01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: guy to carry the defense on his back, yeah, that's

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01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 1: what you pay those guys, and that's a more manageable contract.

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01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: Plus it gives him the opportunity to prove it, and

1377
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: maybe somebody next year will give him a two year

1378
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: deal worth fifteen minute. You know what I'm saying. He

1379
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: gets a chance to sign another deal with another team

1380
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: after coming to Buffalo and proving it, And that's I

1381
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: think that's a place where Buffalo has really I think

1382
01:08:55,960 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: the set the philosophy in place. As around the NFL.

1383
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: You give these guys a chance to prove it and

1384
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: in their mind hit another home room trying to think

1385
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: how this goes over with fan Steven. Look, I know

1386
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: that because of their success, being and McDermott have established

1387
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 1: a great rapport with the fans and people believe in

1388
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: them and think they're doing the right thing. I do too.

1389
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: But if the Bills three weeks from now have not

1390
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: made a big, semi big splashing free agency, bigger than

1391
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: Josh Norman, bigger than Christian Kirksey, as close as they

1392
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: are to real contention in the AFC, our fans going

1393
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: to be happy with that. Knowing the needs they have

1394
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 1: and knowing the money they have two the cap room

1395
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: they have, well, I said, I don't know. If I

1396
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: don't think it'll take a big splash, I think it'll

1397
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 1: take a consistent you know, a consistent look at all

1398
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 1: the needs they go into the draft with. You know,

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01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: if I think you got to look at it in

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01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: a way that says, all right, we know we need

1401
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, wide receiver, We need a guy Lorenzo Alexander,

1402
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: we need another corner, we need another offensive lineman or two,

1403
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: and maybe an edge rusher. When you get to the

1404
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: draft in freantacy and all those needs have been addressed

1405
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form, then you reevaluate and say, yeah, okay,

1406
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: I still you know, like I wish we had more

1407
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: edge rushers, or I wish we would have gotten one

1408
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: more linebacker candidate, or maybe one more corner. But that'll

1409
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: be more of what it is. I don't think this

1410
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 1: is a team that goes out and makes big splashes.

1411
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: I mean they did set the market maybe with star

1412
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: Lotulelay and Mitch Morris, but you know, nose guard or

1413
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: defensive tackle and a center. Yeah that's a yarner for

1414
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: most people, right, Yes, And they set the market and

1415
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: it's still like ten million bucks a year. It's not

1416
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: like twenty five million for a you know, well not

1417
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:46,839
Speaker 1: even twenty thirty million for a quarterback. So those positions

1418
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 1: just aren't sexy, and I think that's what they'll continue

1419
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 1: to do. I think there will be one guy that

1420
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 1: gets a pretty deep, pretty good deal. I don't know

1421
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: who or where it's gonna be, but we'll see. We'll

1422
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: talk more about this in Tom Brady and other issues

1423
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: and the Bills when we returned. One does Live, presented

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01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: by Kalada Health from Seneca Studios in Archer Park. This

1425
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:20,799
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio One does Live. John Murphy, Steve Tasker.

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01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: Halfway through the show, You're welcome to join us. Anything

1427
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: you'd like to talk about Give us a call eight

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01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: three five fifty, toll free one eight eight eight five

1429
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty or Twitter poll today deals with

1430
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 1: Tom Brady gonna decide soon, you would think where he's

1431
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: gonna play next year? And let's check at the Twitter

1432
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,759
Speaker 1: poll because I think it's a good question. Most people

1433
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it, apparently, But if Brady

1434
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: elects to leave the Patriots and go somewhere else in

1435
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: the AFC, which of those teams would be the biggest

1436
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: problem for the Buffalo Bills. What do you think? Give

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01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: us a call eight O three five fifty or toll

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01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: free one. Eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

1439
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: sixty seven percent of who saved the Tennessee Titans would

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01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: be the biggest problem for fourteen percent say the Los

1441
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers would present a problem, twelve percent say somebody else,

1442
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: seven percent say the Raiders. What do you think eight

1443
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: three fifty twelve fifty Oh yeah, I think the rate

1444
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 1: or the Chargers would be the biggest problem for them. Yeah,

1445
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: you're higher on the Chargers than I am. Yeah, Oh, yeah, yes,

1446
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: I am. They won twelve games two years ago. Yes,

1447
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: well how many they went last year? They won five? Yes,

1448
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: I think they're not I think they're good. They have talent.

1449
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: But no, we'll see. You're looking up Jac, go ahead ahead,

1450
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: and now they're now they don't have Philip Rivers right,

1451
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: So but Tom Brady would be pretty good there too. Yeah,

1452
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: yeah he would. I mean, there's no question you're right.

1453
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 1: I think he'd be better. Um so yeah, but still

1454
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see. You spent some time here

1455
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: during the break looking up Jac Tredder and his position.

1456
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: He's the new executive president, the new president of the

1457
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 1: NFL Players Association. Tredder interior offensive lineman for the Cleveland Browns.

1458
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: He is an Acro New York native. Can you tell

1459
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: which way he's coming down on the CBA. He's put

1460
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,799
Speaker 1: the things I've seen on Twitter, etc. And his quotes

1461
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: have been, Hey, everybody read up on this, get ready

1462
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: to vote on this. I don't know that he probably

1463
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: feels that most players are not enough. Players are as

1464
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: engaged as they need to be to vote on the

1465
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: new CBA. But what are you getting on that? That's right.

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01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 1: He just sent out some highlights of the of the

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01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: CBA and and he was just said, listen, if you

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01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: have problems, if you reach out to me. He sent

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01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 1: out like four page photocopy, not a photocopy, but you know,

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01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: a picture of some of the highlights of the CBA.

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01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: And he said, listen, he goes, here's what we tried

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01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 1: to do, and here's what we didn't do. The like

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Speaker 1: the for instance, the es girl count the funding NFL

1474
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: funding rule. But back in the day, any guaranteed money

1475
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: had to be funded already, they put they take the many.

1476
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: So if I if the bills guaranteed whoever Tradavious White

1477
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 1: thirty five million bucks, they had to set that thirty

1478
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: five million bucks aside. To make sure it was there

1479
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: because it was guaranteed him. And that was done back

1480
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: in the day when they didn't know if the league

1481
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: was gonna make it. It's an outdated rule. Of course,

1482
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 1: the league is gonna be able to pay its bills,

1483
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: But and the and the players want to get rid

1484
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: of that rule completely. The owners not so much, because

1485
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: they can make the case that, hey, listen, we don't

1486
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: want to we can't tie up all that money in escrow.

1487
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 1: It's just too much money. We have all this money,

1488
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,560
Speaker 1: can we have your guarantee, his guarantee, his guarantee. We

1489
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: can't tie that much money up in escrow, So we

1490
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: can't really give you that much guaranteed money. So they're

1491
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: gonna so the owners just raised the level of what

1492
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: they had to so if so. Now it went from

1493
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: like two million dollars minimum. If you guaranteed a guy

1494
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: two million bucks, you had to guarantee all of it.

1495
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: Now it's seventeen million. So there's gonna be fewer there's

1496
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit more wiggle room for the

1497
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: players to negotiate, but the owners will still use that

1498
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: in their negotiations. They're just gonna say, listen, we've got

1499
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: six guys that were guaranteeing so much money to that

1500
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: takes up all the money guarantee money, we can't do

1501
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: it for you, which is probably not true. So because

1502
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 1: they don't want to fund it. I know that's a

1503
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: complicated answer, but it's some of that is in there.

1504
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: The owners did raise the level of that the one

1505
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: percent raise in revenue sharing. It will be a contingent

1506
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 1: on what the media packages are coming back to the league.

1507
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 1: So there's all of that in there as well. It's

1508
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 1: it's complicated, like you said, excuse me, Like you said,

1509
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 1: it's like a couple of hundred page document and everybody

1510
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: tries to distill it down to what they think is important. Well,

1511
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: it's all important. Albert Prier just tweeted this out about

1512
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 1: the nfl PA electing Treader as president. He said, when

1513
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: when face with the guy strong on the no side

1514
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: of the debate like Michael Thomas, and one on the

1515
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: yes side of the debate like Sam Acho. We saw

1516
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: his comments yesterday, NFLPA leadership elected what could be considered

1517
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: a moderate in JC Treder. That sounded about a good

1518
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 1: character characterization at JC. Yeah, he's pretty sharp and through

1519
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: his through his tweets. He didn't try to sway the

1520
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: membership one way or the other. He just says, listen,

1521
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 1: if you have questions, if you have concerns, if you

1522
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: need information, call me, pick up the phone, call me,

1523
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: or reach out to me in some way, shape or form,

1524
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: and I'll do everything I can to answer your questions.

1525
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: And that's basically where he sits. He's not going to

1526
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: try and talk him into anything or out of anything,

1527
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: and he's gonna let him vote, and it's up to

1528
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: them to be educated. I think it's that's probably a

1529
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: pretty good stance. Okay. But if you if it's up

1530
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: to the players to be educated, and you live this

1531
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: life for thirteen years, how many will be educated? How

1532
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: many will vote? What's the turnout rate? Can be right,

1533
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. You know, here's the thing for me, Murph, say,

1534
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: worst case scenario comes through and this thing is a

1535
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: win for the owners and not the players. How bad

1536
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: is it gonna get? Everybody's getting there, you know, the

1537
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: bottom guys are getting elevator, they're getting a couple of

1538
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: roster spots, they're getting you know, they're giving up one game,

1539
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: they're getting an extra playoff game. I mean, it's hard

1540
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: to think that the players are gonna look at this

1541
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: in three years and go, wow, this stinks. Because there

1542
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 1: are a couple of givebacks to the players, and there's

1543
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: a number of them, and it's gonna be pretty good

1544
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 1: for him. Where they could make some hay or where

1545
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: they could get some giveback from the owners, who knows.

1546
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be hard to see this thing as

1547
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 1: being a oh my gosh, it was a horrible deal.

1548
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 1: I just don't see that happening. But and I'm just saying,

1549
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: I mean, never been in that situation as a player.

1550
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: They can get going on this new deal, and that

1551
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:56,600
Speaker 1: say it's approved that they get going, and all of

1552
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 1: a sudden, there's hundreds of millions of dollars, maybe billions

1553
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: of dollars in gambling revenue, and the new TV deals

1554
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,719
Speaker 1: each inject like another hundreds of million dollars of revenue.

1555
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 1: And the players, yes, they'll get more because their percentage

1556
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: will be up forty eight forty eight and a half percent.

1557
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,600
Speaker 1: But they might think to themselves, man, we could have

1558
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 1: done much more, We could have gotten much more out

1559
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: of this deal. Well, you'd like to do much more.

1560
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 1: You'd always like to do much more, but you're not

1561
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 1: gonna do it if the other side doesn't want to

1562
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: do it. The owners want certainty of cost is what

1563
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: they want. They want to know how much it's going

1564
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: to cost them every year and where they can cap

1565
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: it and where they can floor it. And then they

1566
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:42,560
Speaker 1: want to have potential for growth. They want to you know,

1567
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: it's going to cost us this much. Now, where can

1568
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: we get richer without sharing it? Or where can we

1569
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: do you know, where can we grow? That's what they

1570
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: want to do. They want certainty of costs, and then

1571
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: they want to say, you know, high end potential for

1572
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: wherever they go, and that's where they sit, and that's

1573
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 1: what this negotia Jason's up. In my opinion, it's about

1574
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 1: for the ownership. They want certainty of cost and it

1575
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: just makes good sense. And I'm a player, I'm a

1576
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: former player. I understand what it is to be one

1577
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: of these guys and to want everything you can get

1578
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: for your family and how much you deserve it. I

1579
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: get it. And I see all the guys who have

1580
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 1: paid a physical toll in their future for this game

1581
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: and what it's meant to them and what they sacrificed

1582
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 1: in their old age for what they did in their youth.

1583
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 1: As of an NFL football player, I understand all that,

1584
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: but I also know this. The NFL is a nine

1585
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: thousand pound guerrilla because they let the owners run it.

1586
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: The owners hold the power, and they kept the power

1587
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,560
Speaker 1: over the decades and these cbas. They didn't let the

1588
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: players run it because the players ultimately would be selfish.

1589
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,600
Speaker 1: And the owners, for whatever you think about the billionaires,

1590
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: they have stewarted this game better than any pro sports

1591
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 1: league ever. It has grown and grown and grown and

1592
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 1: can continues to grow because that right or wrong, it

1593
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: looks like and I don't know the ins and outs

1594
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: of the other side of the argument over on the

1595
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 1: owner's side, but it looks as though they've got people

1596
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 1: comprom you know, making sure that it's the good of

1597
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: the league that takes precedent over any of their own

1598
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: selfish desires about their own stadium or their own single stadium,

1599
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,759
Speaker 1: or their own single market or their own single marketing

1600
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: plan or what have you. Jerry Jones accepted, right, it's

1601
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: the good of the league. Yeah, and yeah, you got

1602
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: guys that are telling Jerry no, theoretically right, theoretically right,

1603
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 1: So because Jerry doesn't call the shots over there. He

1604
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 1: certainly has a strong voice, but there are guys like

1605
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft and I know this too, Ralph Wilson. When

1606
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: he was around, it was always the good of the

1607
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 1: entire league. That was That's how they got to be

1608
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: the eight hundred pound of grilling guys like Wellington Mara

1609
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: and who said, if I'm making this much on my

1610
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: TV money, so should Buffalo. And that was massive. That

1611
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: was a massive give by those guys, and Pete Roselle

1612
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 1: still deserves credit for it because of their willingness to

1613
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 1: do what's best for the league instead of their own

1614
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 1: each and that individual franchise. This league has become a

1615
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 1: monster in its size and proportion. I mean, it is

1616
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: vastly powerful in the American sports landscape. And it's because

1617
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: those guys on the other side of the table from

1618
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 1: the players kind of know what they're doing and they

1619
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: got a long term plan. So you got to tip

1620
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: your hat to those guys for doing it. And while

1621
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 1: I do understand the sacrifices me and my guys have made,

1622
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 1: the league's in pretty good hands on the other side

1623
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 1: of the table. And like I always say, it takes

1624
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: them a long time to get it right sometimes, but

1625
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: they usually do. And so as much as I don't

1626
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: like it that they didn't give them a fifty fifty

1627
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: split of the revenues, and they don't give these guys

1628
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: you know that get some of the givebacks that would

1629
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: more important to them. The league's gonna grow. Yep, we

1630
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 1: gotta break here. When we come back a little. What's

1631
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 1: for lunch? We'll give me options. We'll talk about our options,

1632
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 1: what we would choose as our lunch menu today. That's

1633
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,600
Speaker 1: coming up next one Bill's Live presented by a Lot

1634
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 1: of Health from the Seneca Studio on Archard Park on

1635
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Sound like that? Now, Hey, we got

1636
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: the Bill barn Rowle from ESPN coming up at two

1637
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 1: o'clock just about twelve minutes from now. That'll be good

1638
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 1: at that to look forward to what's for lunch? Um,

1639
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: it's the part where we talk about a couple of

1640
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 1: choices we have to make, and of course what's for lunch.

1641
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: The choices are usually a hot chicken wing or a

1642
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 1: disgusting looking fish between two bro what's for lunch? Let's

1643
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: talk about this. This is going to be important today.

1644
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: What's for lunch. Um, where do we begin? How about

1645
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 1: the one uh, the better pass rush? You're free agent

1646
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: for the Bills. Robert Quinn or Dante Fowler Junior? Who

1647
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 1: do you like? I like Robert Quinn. I said it yesterday. Yes,

1648
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: he's slightly older than than UH Dante Fowler. He's been

1649
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: a little bit healthier in recent years. Robert Quinn, I

1650
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 1: think would cost much less than than Dante Fowler. Would

1651
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,879
Speaker 1: I go with uh? And that's defensive end versus linebacker.

1652
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: You're talking about an edge rush guy. I'm going with

1653
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn is a better choice for the Bills than

1654
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler. You can get Dante Fowler on a one

1655
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 1: year proven deal. I'll take care. I't think you can.

1656
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: I don't think if you can't, you can't, So then

1657
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: go Robert Quinn. But yeah, yeah, if it's the right price,

1658
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 1: I'll take either one of those guys. And I was

1659
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 1: almost gonna say I would like fast through lunch if

1660
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: those were the guys I had to hes from, but

1661
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 1: I won't. I'll take Robert Quinn as well. Right, give

1662
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn a deal, let him come in. You'll get

1663
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: him for the right price, and you can build some

1664
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: stuff around him to and it won't be just him.

1665
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: So you know my point is, do you give Dante

1666
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: Fowler like thirteen million a year or whatever. It's gonna

1667
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: take fifteen million or whatever, and you get Robert Quinn

1668
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: for seven you can take the extra six million, get

1669
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,719
Speaker 1: another player, get another really good player to help Robert

1670
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: Quinn be better. So that's what I would do. Part two,

1671
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: what's for lunch more? And you can define this anyway

1672
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:21,879
Speaker 1: you want. I'm more intriguing free agent option at quarterback

1673
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, who will be a free agent next week,

1674
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 1: or Teddy Bridgewater, who's more intriguing. Look, I love Philip Rivers,

1675
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,560
Speaker 1: and I've always appreciated Philip Rivers, But because of his

1676
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: age and because of the untapped potential, I would think

1677
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater is certainly more intriguing and maybe a better

1678
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: long term prospect for somebody. I'm going with Teddy Bridgewater.

1679
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:46,719
Speaker 1: That's no question. He's a better long term prospect. Philip

1680
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: intrigues me because you got to put him kind of

1681
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: and I know there's a vast difference in there, and

1682
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 1: you know all the stuff that we're talking about, But

1683
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Philip Rivers. You know, Phillips four years younger

1684
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 1: than Tom Brady, but he's the same. He's I got

1685
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: to give your team the same type of boost. For instance,

1686
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 1: if Phil if Tom Brady does something and goes to

1687
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 1: the Raiders or the Chargers or the Colts or something,

1688
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay could be Philip Rivers all about it. They

1689
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: could be all about him. He could come in there

1690
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: and really really make them a better football team with

1691
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 1: the receivers they have and with what he has left

1692
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: in the tank. So he's, to me another guy that

1693
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: if you've got a small window, he's the perfect choice

1694
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 1: in a year where you think you could make a

1695
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,679
Speaker 1: run if you get the right guy. Hey, two weeks ago, Combine,

1696
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 1: we ask your boy Frank Rake about Rivers. Right, not

1697
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: are you going to sign him? But tell us about

1698
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: him and how much how well he handled the offensive line,

1699
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 1: and Frank raves about him. He raves about Philip Rivers

1700
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 1: as a not just a talent, but a smart talent

1701
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 1: and the guy who who can call offensive line work

1702
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: and really do a great job of the old line.

1703
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 1: I think that that makes him intriguing. He maximizes the

1704
01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 1: offensive line's ability to protect him because he's so aware

1705
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 1: of where the pressure is coming from. He has an

1706
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: innate frank he said the guys as a savant. Yeah,

1707
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 1: and they didn't say it that day we were together,

1708
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: but that's kind of what he said when he was

1709
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 1: working and the question he said, yeah, I mean, the

1710
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 1: guy really sees it. And there's some people here today

1711
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 1: on social media now that I've been reading up about

1712
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 1: this Philip Rivers thing, is that Austin Eckler, the running back,

1713
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 1: is going to sign a really nice deal. And one

1714
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 1: of the big reasons is because Philip Rivers ability to

1715
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: see pressure and feel it coming and dump it off

1716
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: quick gave Eckler a handful of the big plays that

1717
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 1: he's famous for. And that's just because Philip being so smart.

1718
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: So you get a different quarterback in San Diego. I

1719
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: don't know that it'll happen for Eckler like it has,

1720
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter because he's going to sign a

1721
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: deal because of it. Next question is an interesting quarterback comparison.

1722
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how to answer this. What's for Lunch?

1723
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: Tom Brady would or would not be an upgrade over

1724
01:26:55,880 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo's. Plenty of speculation and Brady might end up

1725
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,919
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Would Brady be an upgrade over Jimmy Garoppolo?

1726
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to say, initially depends on how

1727
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 1: long term you're looking for an answer to be. If

1728
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: you're looking in long term, Garoppolo is much better option

1729
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 1: than Brady this year a one year deal? I mean,

1730
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 1: are you telling me? And I had more questions and

1731
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: answers for this one. If you if you sign, if

1732
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 1: you're the Niners, you signed Tom Brady, you start Tom Brady?

1733
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 1: Are you done with Jimmy Garoppolo forever? I mean I

1734
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:28,799
Speaker 1: need an answer to that before I know it's an upgrade,

1735
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: because i'd I'd be reluctant to do that. I don't

1736
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 1: think it's if he fits, by the way, even for

1737
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: one year, would he be an upgrade? I don't know.

1738
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah. See, I think there's a big

1739
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 1: question mark there a Garoppolo plate. What are you talking about?

1740
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 1: The guy has one a bad game in the Super

1741
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 1: Bowl and everybody's like, ah, he's not that good. I'm not,

1742
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 1: come on. I mean, he was the reason there was

1743
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 1: optimism there two years ago. He lost an entire season

1744
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 1: with an a CEO came back, got you to the

1745
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: super Bowl, which is exactly why you traded for him.

1746
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: Come on, no, I don't think it's an upgrade. Take Garoppolo.

1747
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: He's your guy. He's got a colt, he's got you know,

1748
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 1: he's got the locker room, don't know. Don't switch horses

1749
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: like that that. I think that would be a massive

1750
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: mistake by the forty nine ers to bring in a

1751
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 1: guy like Brady. And because I'll tell you what, Jimmy

1752
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 1: Garoppolo for whatever he says, he's if you're gonna bring

1753
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, and while I'm sitting here, I'm gonna make

1754
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 1: the best of it. I'm buddies with him. We're gonna

1755
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: be friends. But the first time I the first chance

1756
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 1: I get to pull the pull the rip chord and

1757
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 1: get out of here, I'm going to And then the

1758
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: first time you ask me to do something really you know,

1759
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 1: go you know the extra mile? Well you can go

1760
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 1: by yourself, you know what I mean, You alienate the guy.

1761
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: He'll make the best of it because he's probably a

1762
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 1: pretty good pro and he's gonna do everything. He Candle

1763
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 1: likes the guys on the team and all that. Because

1764
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: they went to the Super Bowl and had some success,

1765
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 1: but man, oh man, when he gets a chance, he'll

1766
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 1: stab you in the back because that's what you're doing

1767
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 1: to him. One more quarterback question on today's what's for

1768
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 1: AFC North quarterback with more pressure? Baker Mayfield of the

1769
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: Browns or Lamar Jackson of the Baltimore Ravens. I think

1770
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 1: this answer is easy. You want to go first or

1771
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: she has Baker Mayfield. I do too. He's got a

1772
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 1: ton of pressure. This is which how many how many

1773
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: head coaches? This for him? This is fourth head coach,

1774
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 1: fourth fourth No fault of his own, well a little

1775
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 1: maybe a little fault of his own. I mean he

1776
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 1: it was certainly his fault that he got the Freddy

1777
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: Kitchens because he lobbied for him and got him the job,

1778
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 1: and it wasn't he wasn't Kitchens wasn't ready for it. Uh,

1779
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: the interim tag that he had with Greg Williams, of course,

1780
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson and now um, yeah it's Stefanski. Stefanski, Kevin Stefanski. Yeah.

1781
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: I think Baker Mayfield isn't under an immense amount of

1782
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: pressure this year. Just if all you have to do

1783
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: is look at his twenty eighteen numbers compared to twenty nineteen.

1784
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 1: The drop off is significant. And there's also and I'm

1785
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 1: reluctant to make two big but there's an attitude question

1786
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: with Baker Mayfield, isn't there. I mean there's a question

1787
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 1: about how much of a teammate, how much of a

1788
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 1: good teammate is he? How how much work does he

1789
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: put in? As a matter of fact, I think there's

1790
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 1: some questions about Baker Mayfield. He's got to answer those

1791
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,719
Speaker 1: questions now or he's it's beyond a one year's slump

1792
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 1: for him, a sophomore slump. It's like, well, maybe that's

1793
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 1: who he is if he has another off year. And

1794
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 1: by the way, Lamar Jackson, I don't think he will

1795
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 1: be able to replicate the numbers he had this year

1796
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 1: because he was amazing and I don't think that as

1797
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 1: a sustainable model for quarterback player that they ran in

1798
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 1: Baltimore this year. But they can probably get at least

1799
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 1: one MOREY out of it, maybe get one MOREY out

1800
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 1: of it. But I think Baker Mayfield is a lot

1801
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:39,680
Speaker 1: more pressure on him than Lamar jack Yeah, Lamar's guy.

1802
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 1: He's a phenomenal athlete. He's incredibly fast, He can outrun

1803
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 1: most of the defenders on the field. He's the MVP now.

1804
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: He was one and done in the playoffs, and you know, okay, well,

1805
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 1: you can't really blame the MVP for getting you the

1806
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: playoffs and then not being able to advance. You got

1807
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 1: you gotta put the team around. Everybody's got to perform,

1808
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,639
Speaker 1: and I think he does have some pressure to come

1809
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 1: back and elevate his play in the passing side of it.

1810
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 1: But no, he's got to get better, right But yeah,

1811
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, welcome to being a quarterback in the NFL.

1812
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 1: You need to play better every year. So yeah, but

1813
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 1: he's under no prey. He's under zero pressure. That guy.

1814
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the compared to Baker Mayfield,

1815
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: he is. I think Baker Mayfield his more. But losing

1816
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 1: that first and only playoff game this year, I think

1817
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,560
Speaker 1: puts a little bit of pressure on the mar I do.

1818
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. It's certainly threw a cold bucket

1819
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 1: of water on the fire they were on when they

1820
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 1: got to the playoffs. All right, we got a break here.

1821
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: We got Bill Barnwell from ESPN coming up next. Come

1822
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 1: on back with us one Bill's Live presented by Klaid

1823
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: to health from the Seneca Studio Seneca Resorts in Casino.

1824
01:31:44,560 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 1: Nothing comes close Little Radio and Sports. The update from

1825
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 1: one Bill's Drive. The Bills have made a couple of

1826
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,639
Speaker 1: player moves today. They've picked up the option on veteran

1827
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 1: offensive lineman Spencer Long According to Field Yates of ESPN,

1828
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,839
Speaker 1: he was the first to report a long Space salary

1829
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 1: will be two point five five million dollars this next

1830
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 1: season four point one two five million the following year.

1831
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 1: He played in fourteen games for the Bills last year.

1832
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: His first season in Buffalo was last year, and the

1833
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 1: Bills looking for more offensive line help. They still have

1834
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 1: to decide on what to do with Quentin Spain, as

1835
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 1: he said to become an undrestricted free agent next week. Also,

1836
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 1: the Bills will resign cornerback lee By Wallace and wide

1837
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 1: receiver Robert Foster, both of whom were exclusive rights free

1838
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 1: agents last year. Wallace started sixteen games last season, and Foster,

1839
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: coming off a rough year, caught just three passes for

1840
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 1: sixty four yards in thirteen games. Bill's reportedly have a

1841
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:53,719
Speaker 1: draft visitor in today, the first one that's been revealed.

1842
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 1: Bill's reportedly hosting Miami linebacker Shaq quarterman on a pre

1843
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 1: draft visit. He's regarded as a mid round prospect. He

1844
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,639
Speaker 1: played for the Miami Hurricanes, got three hundred and fifty

1845
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,640
Speaker 1: six total tackles, a four year starter and said to

1846
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 1: be a team leader for the Kane chat Quarterman in

1847
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 1: for a visit with the Buffalo Bills. NFL player reps

1848
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 1: meeting in Florida with the NFLPA have voted in JC Tretor,

1849
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:18,759
Speaker 1: the native of Acara, New York, remember the Cleveland Browns

1850
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 1: offensive line, as their new president. The player reps voted

1851
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 1: down a resolution that would have allowed players who have

1852
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 1: already voted on the proposed CBA to change their votes.

1853
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 1: According to a report, and the Players Association and league

1854
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:34,879
Speaker 1: management have agreed to move their franchise transition TAK deadline

1855
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 1: from Thursday at four pm to next Monday at eleven

1856
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 1: fifty nine am. That's Monday at noontime. Steelers preseason looking

1857
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 1: like it's going to start a bit earlier this year.

1858
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 1: They played the Dallas Cowboys in the annual Hall of

1859
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 1: Fame Game in Kenton, Ohio, on August six. Steelers have

1860
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 1: Troy Palomalo and Bill Coward have to be in trined

1861
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Houston Texans have agreed to

1862
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 1: resign Titan Daryl Fells to a two year contract, and

1863
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 1: the Sabers coming off a victory yesterday, the Sabers three

1864
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 1: shootout victory over Washington and they play at Montreal on

1865
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: Thursday night. And that's the update from One Bill's Lot.

1866
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio

1867
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 1: a lot of business and free agency issues to discuss

1868
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 1: with our next guest. He is an ESPN senior writer,

1869
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 1: host of The Bill Barnwell Show podcast, contributor to ESPN

1870
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 1: Sports Center. Happy to have our old buddy, Bill Barnewell

1871
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: on the line with us. Hello Bill, John Murphy and

1872
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 1: seem task Rupper in Buffalo. Thanks coming on, guys. It's

1873
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 1: always a pleasure to hop on the John Murphy Show. Yeah,

1874
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 1: the remnants of the John Murphy Show. Hey, question for you.

1875
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 1: We're getting set for free agency, and I think most

1876
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 1: Bills fans feel as if the franchise, no matter what

1877
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 1: they do, is in pretty good hands. With the Sean

1878
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 1: McDermott getting into his fourth year, Brandon Bean will get

1879
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 1: ready for his third draft. Those two have overall done

1880
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 1: a pretty good job in one league wide acclaimed for it.

1881
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 1: Do you agree? Of course? You know, how can you argue? Right?

1882
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 1: This is an organization that's turned over pretty much their

1883
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 1: entire roster from before they had got there, so few players.

1884
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: I think Shack Lawson was one of the few guys

1885
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 1: left that he might need to give the lead in

1886
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: this off stason as well. So you know, could be

1887
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,680
Speaker 1: an entirely turned over fifty three man roster. And how

1888
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 1: many of the decisions have gone right, you know, I

1889
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 1: mean you can count on one hand the ones that

1890
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 1: have gone wrong. Maybe Vonte Davis is one of the

1891
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 1: rare exceptions. But they've earned the benefit of the doubt

1892
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: with their free agent signings, with their draft picks. They've

1893
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: gotten so many things right over the past couple of years.

1894
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 1: One of the amazing parts is they went to the

1895
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 1: playoffs two out of those three years while trying to

1896
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 1: rebuild it from the ground up, and with a six

1897
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: and ten season in the middle of it. Certainly they've

1898
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,640
Speaker 1: got a reputation as well on the coaching side of it,

1899
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 1: of the mcdermot's side of it, to get the most

1900
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: out of whoever's in the building. That's the thing. Right,

1901
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 1: you think about the players they've brought and veteran some

1902
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 1: other teams stored in Phillips seems like the most obvious example.

1903
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 1: But guys who either were good in the other place

1904
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 1: and they've been really good in Buffalo, or guys who

1905
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 1: were kind of just there, who were mediocre, who were

1906
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 1: struggling elsewhere, who have come to Buffalo and turned into viable,

1907
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 1: productive players. Even the guys who were there before before

1908
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,680
Speaker 1: McDermot and being got there have improved, Auston being a

1909
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 1: good example of how he played in twenty nineteen. So

1910
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 1: I think just up and down this roster. If you're

1911
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 1: a player who you might not have considered Buffalo five

1912
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 1: years ago, well now you're looking at this roster and saying, hey,

1913
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 1: I can get the most out of my talent. I

1914
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 1: can play for a competitive football team. You know, the

1915
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 1: Patriots are not the same as they were maybe a

1916
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 1: few years ago, especially if they lose Tom Brady. So

1917
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 1: this could be a really exciting organization to come play for.

1918
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:23,799
Speaker 1: One more question about McDermot and being as we continue

1919
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 1: to pat ourselves on the back here Bill, what have

1920
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 1: they done? What difference says they made? Why has it

1921
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 1: gone so well in their first few years here with

1922
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 1: the Bills. Well, I think there's a real culture developing there.

1923
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they have a really strong sense

1924
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 1: of what kind of players they want to add. They

1925
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 1: really targeted that sort of middle tier of free agency.

1926
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 1: They haven't really gone for those top level guys. I mean,

1927
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 1: the sort of a border trade for Antonio Brown might

1928
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 1: be the rare exception. The star Low to Layley deal

1929
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,600
Speaker 1: was you know, pretty extensive for a defensive tackle. But

1930
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:53,600
Speaker 1: otherwise it's been a lot of those guys in the

1931
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 1: middle range where I think they've kind of figured, Okay,

1932
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 1: it's better to have a team of useful, productive, versatile

1933
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 1: players supposed to having you know, a bunch of stars

1934
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 1: and a bunch of scrubs and scrubbings harsh, but you know,

1935
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:06,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of stars with a bunch of you know,

1936
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 1: undrafted free agents or guys who are hoping you're going

1937
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 1: to develop, as opposed to having a team full of

1938
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 1: players in what they're doing and who are deep and competitive.

1939
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 1: And so that's the philosophy we've seen work elsewhere, New

1940
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 1: England being perhaps the most notable example. So I think

1941
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 1: you're just seeing a philosophy that you know, makes a

1942
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:23,599
Speaker 1: lot of sense, and it's paid off, like you said,

1943
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,240
Speaker 1: two playoff runs now in the first three seasons. One

1944
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 1: of the other philosophies they've done is get these guys

1945
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,759
Speaker 1: in veteran guys in on one year prove it deals,

1946
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 1: the way they did Josh Norman just yesterday when his reporter,

1947
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 1: you know, they got him on a one year deal.

1948
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 1: They've done that a lot, and I guess guys are

1949
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 1: smart enough. No listen, they come in and play for

1950
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 1: one year in any situation, but if they come in here,

1951
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 1: they get a good buck to come in and prove

1952
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 1: it and maybe hit one more home run. Certainly, guys

1953
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 1: like Jordan Phillips or prime examples, they had him for

1954
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 1: a year and a half season and a half and

1955
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 1: he has really set himself up to have a payday.

1956
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 1: This one year deal prove it deals seems to be

1957
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:05,480
Speaker 1: a philosophy that the Bills exploit maybe better than anybody. Yeah, absolutely,

1958
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean Quentin Spain being another example, where he looked

1959
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 1: good last year in the offensive line. It might get

1960
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 1: a multi year deal now in free agency. Also Bill

1961
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, yep, Jordan Phillips was in for that year,

1962
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 1: and then he signed a one year contract last year

1963
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 1: to come back and you know, kind of emerged as

1964
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 1: a starter. Had that you know, doubled the sacks. A

1965
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 1: huge year for him. He's going to get paid by somebody,

1966
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:27,600
Speaker 1: whether the bills or elsewhere in free agencies. So I

1967
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 1: think you're saying that work for guys, and there are exceptions.

1968
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 1: Like I said, the Vante Davis deal obviously didn't work out,

1969
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 1: but that may have been you know, issues unrelated to

1970
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, his talent level or how they might have

1971
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:39,719
Speaker 1: coached him. It was obviously a short stay in Buffalo.

1972
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 1: But Josh Norman, I mean, a guy who was unplayable,

1973
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 1: was really bad last year by the second half. I

1974
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 1: got bench for most of the second half of the season.

1975
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 1: It was only really an injury filling for Washington. Now

1976
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 1: would I be thrilled about that one year, six million

1977
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 1: dollars deal if he went elsewhere, Not, especially if I'm

1978
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 1: honest with you. But in Buffalo, I have a lot

1979
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 1: more faith going to get a useful cornerback than I

1980
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:04,559
Speaker 1: would for just about any other team in football. We're

1981
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 1: with Bill Barnwell, ESPN senior writer, one of your more

1982
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 1: recent posts, Billing has taken a while to get him

1983
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 1: all up. But you've had your five predicted moves for

1984
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 1: each NFL team to you've gone through all thirty two

1985
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 1: for the Bills, you say that, I guess your number

1986
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 1: one is to extend the exercise rather the fifth year

1987
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 1: option on Turndavious White. What do you see there? Why

1988
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 1: is that so critical for Buffalo? I mean, if he's

1989
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 1: not the best quarterback in football. If you want to

1990
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 1: say to find Gilmore's the best cornerback in football Teas

1991
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 1: White to me is number two and not far off

1992
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 1: from number one. You know, obviously you want him around

1993
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:38,640
Speaker 1: for the long term. You're going to give him a

1994
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 1: big contract. Just a question of when. So exerciving on

1995
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 1: my fifth year option gives you a little bit more

1996
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 1: leverage if you now have two years of cost control

1997
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 1: before free agency, so you can go to Stavius right

1998
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 1: this officase and and say, hey, we're going to pay you,

1999
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 1: whether it's this year and next year. Just a question

2000
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: if you want to get paid now and they make

2001
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 1: a little less because we have, you know, at a

2002
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 1: relatively friendly rate for the next two years, or do

2003
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 1: you want to play it year by year? Wait until

2004
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 1: we get to that fourth year or that fifth year,

2005
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:04,639
Speaker 1: and then you'll get you know, the record setting cornerback

2006
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: contract or something close to it, because you know, this

2007
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 1: is the guy who I think, you know, embodies what

2008
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 1: you want from a Bill's player, right. You know, he's smart,

2009
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 1: he's talented, he's versus Bill, will do anything you want

2010
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:16,679
Speaker 1: him to do. I think, just a phenomenal football player,

2011
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 1: and I think someone who the Bills are going to

2012
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 1: reward and say, hey, this is what you can do.

2013
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:22,080
Speaker 1: If we draft you and you play hard, you can become,

2014
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:23,799
Speaker 1: you know, one of the best players of your position

2015
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 1: and one of the highest paid players at your position

2016
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, it

2017
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 1: just seems a question of when and not if and

2018
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 1: how what the number will be is set by the

2019
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 1: market for Tradavious White. One of the other things you've

2020
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: said that the Bills need to do is is more

2021
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 1: offensive line. Certainly they revamped it entirely from seventeen to

2022
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 1: earth from eighteen to nineteen and wealth and wealth deserved.

2023
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 1: But going forward, you already mentioned Quentin Spain, who had

2024
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 1: a one year proven deal probably will or will not

2025
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 1: be here. How hard do they have to go and

2026
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 1: what kind of positions are we talking about for your

2027
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 1: vision of what the Bills offensive line should step up to. Yeah,

2028
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 1: I think it depends on what you think you want

2029
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 1: to do with Cody Ford, who I think some people

2030
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 1: expected before the draft was going to be eventually a

2031
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 1: guard at the NFL level. We saw him at tackle

2032
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 1: last year splitting time with Taiseki. Obviously, you know, played

2033
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 1: like a rookie. Some nice moments, some struggling moments as well.

2034
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say, and you don't want

2035
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:17,600
Speaker 1: to keep up on Cody Ford. I'm not saying that

2036
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 1: you should replace them at all, but what I'm saying

2037
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:21,640
Speaker 1: is if you think, hey, we have a shot to

2038
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 1: add a tackle in the first round or the second round,

2039
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 1: or there's someone in free agency we really like we're

2040
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 1: willing to pay a premium for, like Jack Conklin, for example, Hey,

2041
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 1: you can move Cody forward inside, try him a guard,

2042
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 1: and now you have your tackle situation set with this

2043
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 1: new guy on the right side and then the undalcans

2044
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:39,640
Speaker 1: on the left side. On the other hand, if you

2045
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 1: think Cody Ford is a tackle, which I think the

2046
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 1: Bills in the long one would like him to be

2047
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 1: their starting right tackle. Well, now there's a lot of

2048
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,560
Speaker 1: guards out there on the free agent markets. Maybe you

2049
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 1: look at a guard like a Joe Duney or someone

2050
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 1: like that, and you're willing to pay a significant some

2051
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 1: to bring a guy in at guard and sort of

2052
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 1: fortify what might be the weakest point of your line

2053
01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:58,800
Speaker 1: with Quinn Spain leaving. So the good thing is that

2054
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,680
Speaker 1: the Bills they have some death, they have versatility, they

2055
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:03,600
Speaker 1: have talent. You know, it's not like you have to

2056
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:05,720
Speaker 1: go out and replace three four guys the way they

2057
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 1: did last year. It's more just a question of do

2058
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 1: you want to bring mc spain, Do you want to

2059
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 1: go out to the vest of you know, a lot

2060
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: and one guy, or do you want to make the

2061
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 1: sort of signing where you sign a guy or two

2062
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 1: in half depth and you know, sort of have a

2063
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 1: competition and see who wins. With Bill Barnwell, ESPN senior

2064
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 1: writer Bill Barnwell, who's written predicted five moves for each

2065
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:25,679
Speaker 1: NFL team for the Super Bowl champions, Bill, Kansas City Chiefs,

2066
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 1: you think they will cut Sammy Watkins And there was

2067
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 1: a line in there that you really, I mean, the

2068
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:32,680
Speaker 1: money would kind of mitigate that an Iman. Yeah, of

2069
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 1: course they don't want to pay twenty one million dollars

2070
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 1: or get a twenty one million dollars camp charge for

2071
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins. But I think you said in that article

2072
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 1: that after seven years, it's proven that Sammy Watkins is

2073
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 1: no better than a team second wide out. Do you

2074
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:49,599
Speaker 1: believe that? Yeah? I do. You know, I just at

2075
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 1: this point, we've seen him, right, We've send those moments.

2076
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 1: I remember that game against the Vikings where get that

2077
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown for the Bills and he kind of thought, Okay,

2078
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 1: that'd be a big moment. That's going to be his

2079
01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 1: moment to spur him forward. Whether it's injuries, whether it's

2080
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 1: the knee, whether it's a full I mean, there's just

2081
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 1: been so many, you know, things here and there that

2082
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 1: have popped up for Sammy Watkins where we've seen him

2083
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 1: now like it just hasn't happened at this point. I

2084
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 1: think he's obviously a valuable NFL player. You know, he

2085
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 1: can have those weeks where he's gonna look dominant. Week

2086
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:16,799
Speaker 1: one of the twenty nineteen NFL season in the playoffs,

2087
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 1: I thought he was very effective. You know, it's had

2088
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 1: did a really good job and he's going to be

2089
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 1: an NFL player. He's gonna get, you know, a pretty

2090
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 1: sizable contract, maybe in the ten eleven million per year range,

2091
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 1: I think. But you know, I think he has the

2092
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 1: largest cap hit or any wide receiver in football at

2093
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 1: the moment, or pretty close to it. So I can't

2094
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 1: see him getting to that point. And I just you know,

2095
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 1: it's always possible, you know, guys. Break out careers are

2096
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:40,480
Speaker 1: always different for each player, but I think the preponderance

2097
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 1: of evidence at this point and suggests, you know, at

2098
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 1: this point, he's really probably a very talented number two guy,

2099
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 1: but probably a number two wide out at the NFL up.

2100
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 1: It's funny because that's exactly what the Bills. That's exactly

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Speaker 1: what they not intended to do when they got him

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Speaker 1: as a first round moved up in that draft in

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. Again him, that's I'm sure they thought it'd

2104
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Speaker 1: be a number one, probably game breaking, All Pro Pro

2105
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 1: Bowl wide receiver. He's not anything close to that, is he.

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Speaker 1: That's tough, Yeah, because I haven't worked out that way,

2107
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Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's why it's so tough

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Speaker 1: to trade up in the draft, because you know, I

2109
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Speaker 1: think we always think we're smarter when it comes to

2110
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 1: evaluating players and evaluating prospects than we actually are. And

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Speaker 1: I think when you look at with the the best teams,

2112
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 1: the Dynasties of the NFL, the early nineties Cowboys, the

2113
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: Patriots over the past twenty years, they do trade up occasionally,

2114
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: but overall they trade down. They get extra picks, you

2115
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 1: get more lottery tickets, as you would say, to add

2116
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 1: talent to your roster. And I think overall that's still

2117
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 1: going to be the best philosophy. And for the Bills

2118
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 1: that they do think it ended up hurting them when

2119
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 1: it came to trading up for Sammy Watkins. They've got

2120
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Speaker 1: a good player, but not someone who I think has

2121
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 1: been the impact player maybe a Buffalo would have hoped.

2122
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 1: A few years ago, I got to ask you a

2123
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:50,719
Speaker 1: about a couple of Buffalo Bills players that are coming

2124
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 1: up and really proven to be kind of part of

2125
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 1: the rebuilding process. A surprise, not one of them. A surprise,

2126
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Speaker 1: one of them not Dion Dawkins, left tackle, who has

2127
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 1: been a pretty in his career. He came in and

2128
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 1: really started as a rookie and hasn't left. And then

2129
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 1: Matt Milano who really has endeared himself to Bills fans

2130
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 1: with his ability to play in space and cover and

2131
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 1: just to be on the field and critical moments. You

2132
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:15,600
Speaker 1: said one of the moves you'd like to see the

2133
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 1: Bills make is to start talking about getting those guys extended.

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01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 1: What are we kind of talking about? What level of

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01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 1: player are both those guys respectively? Yeah, with Dion, it's

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Speaker 1: obviously a little bit tough because I do think, like

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01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 1: you said, impressive and his rookie year kind of encouraged

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01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 1: the Bills to move on from Courty Glenn second year

2139
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 1: not quite as impressive. Numbers weren't you know, Little Looker's

2140
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 1: gonna tape numbers weren't quite as good, but definitely a

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01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 1: better year with more talent around him last season. So

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Speaker 1: I do think it's going to be a point now

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01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 1: where we're gonna look at, you know, resigning him and

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01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 1: what the value might be. It's gonna depends, I think,

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01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 1: on you know, this tackle market, because there's gonna be

2146
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,560
Speaker 1: so many left tackles and so many tackle prospects in

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01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 1: this year's draft. So, uh, you know, I think you're

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01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of teams who are locked in

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01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:57,640
Speaker 1: and left tackle. It's not going to be cheap. The J.

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01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:00,559
Speaker 1: Humphrey deals we just saw from Arizona to Mine as

2151
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 1: maybe sort of the framework for that sort of deal.

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01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 1: And that's a pretty expensive contract for you know, a J.

2153
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 1: Humphries who really is not as good as the end alkins.

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01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,679
Speaker 1: That was three years, almost forty four million dollars. Murano.

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01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean again, I brought up previous way as an

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01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 1: example of what you want the Bills. You know, if

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01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 1: you're a Bill's draftee, this is who you want, if

2158
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 1: this this is what you want to become. Mat Mulana

2159
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 1: is another classic example of that. Just a guy who

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01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 1: was a midground pick. You know, maybe you figure out

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01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:26,680
Speaker 1: Kay who might be a special teams guy, you might

2162
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 1: might up getting some stops. But the guy who's an

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01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 1: every down mind backer, you know, one of the core

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01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 1: players on this defense. They really have missed him during

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Speaker 1: the times where he has not been available, and a

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Speaker 1: guy who I think you have to keep just that

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01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 1: say okay, this is what this is what we want

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Speaker 1: from our players, right. You know, if you want you

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Speaker 1: want to bring in a you want to draft a

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Speaker 1: guy at this in the middle rounds, you want to

2171
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:46,840
Speaker 1: develop him into a starter, you have to pay him,

2172
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:48,679
Speaker 1: and at this point, you know, it could be something

2173
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 1: similar to the four year, fifty four million dollar deal

2174
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,760
Speaker 1: Shack Thompson signed with the Panthers, which's a lot of

2175
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 1: money from Matt Mulano. But again, I just think, you know,

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01:46:57,360 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: you have to reward the guys who have come through yourself,

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01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 1: who you developed in the starters and who have been

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01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 1: a part of one of the league's best defense. Bill Barnwell,

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Speaker 1: for me, ESPN is on the line with us at

2180
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 1: the risk of alienating the rest of our listeners who

2181
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 1: don't like when we talk about Tom Brady. Bill tell

2182
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:15,320
Speaker 1: me about how important Brady is to kind of get

2183
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 1: things going in free agency next week. Is it too

2184
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:21,559
Speaker 1: simplistic to say that he's the first domino that has

2185
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,719
Speaker 1: to fall before anybody else can make a decision about

2186
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 1: a free agent quarterback? John, you have no idea it

2187
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 1: really is, you know, not the combines, just talking to people,

2188
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, agents, players, coaches, GMS, gouts, everyone saying, hey,

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01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:36,439
Speaker 1: we got to figure out what Tom's doing and then

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01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 1: everything else is going to fall from there. So I

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01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:40,600
Speaker 1: think when we get to that little tampering window, I

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01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:42,639
Speaker 1: think you're going to see the Brady deal happen, maybe

2193
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 1: on the seventeenth, and then I think you're going to

2194
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:46,920
Speaker 1: see deal after deal after deal start for those quarterbacks,

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01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 1: and then the players were not quarterbacks or maybe going

2196
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 1: to follow. Of course, the big guys, the cheddying clownies

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01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 1: of the world, they're going to get paid out of

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01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 1: the way. It's talking to make a difference for them.

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01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 1: But the Brady situation is going to determine what the

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Speaker 1: Patriots do, and then naturally a lot of other moves

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01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:05,280
Speaker 1: are going to follow. So the Patreet, other free agents, Cowpennoy,

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01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:07,639
Speaker 1: Jimmy Collins, guys like that come to mind. And then

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01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: just you know what, what are guys will understand what's

2204
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 1: the market going to be for those quarterbacks were out there,

2205
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:14,640
Speaker 1: because they're going to take up a significant amount of

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01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 1: cap space. And if those teams can't get a Philip

2207
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,680
Speaker 1: Rivers or Teddy Bridgewater or a Brady, well they might

2208
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 1: go out and say, hey, instead of getting a mediocre quarterback,

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01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:23,720
Speaker 1: let's stick with the guy we have and then take

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01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 1: that thirty million dollars and devoted to other spots on

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01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,160
Speaker 1: our rosters. So I mean, we don't even know what

2212
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 1: the salary caps gonna be yet, you know, given that

2213
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 1: we don't know what the new CBA is gonna be. It,

2214
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 1: so everything is up in the air less than two

2215
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 1: weeks before a free agency again. Yeah, I gotta ask

2216
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 1: you if if it was a blind test and you

2217
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 1: just stacked up these quarterbacks without names and numbers on

2218
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 1: their jerseys, how do you rank these guys in their availability?

2219
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 1: Certainly Tom Brady, I mean, he's forty two, as opposed

2220
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:55,719
Speaker 1: to Teddy Bridgewater, Bridgewater who's not. You've got Philip Rivers

2221
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:57,639
Speaker 1: in that mex who's thirty eight, and he's not even

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01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 1: the you know, he's young. You know, comparatively speaking, You've

2223
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 1: got Ryan Tannehill, You've got Andy Dalton on the trading block.

2224
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 1: You know, all these guys are out there available. How

2225
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 1: do you rank them if you give us maybe your

2226
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:13,880
Speaker 1: first three or four guys? Oh man, it's a tough question, Steve,

2227
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 1: because you know they all have their own flaws, right,

2228
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,760
Speaker 1: Brady is in his mid forties, Rivers is old and

2229
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 1: has the you know, really struggled during the second half

2230
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:24,720
Speaker 1: of the season behind terrible protection. Teddy played really well

2231
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 1: with the Saints, but they didn't really ask him to

2232
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:27,720
Speaker 1: win games. He was sort of just, you know, the

2233
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:29,719
Speaker 1: guy where you hold on to the football and protected

2234
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 1: and let you know, with the running game of the

2235
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:32,920
Speaker 1: defense to win the game and make a few players

2236
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,120
Speaker 1: here and there with a great coach and a you know,

2237
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 1: a great receiving corps and then you know, you get

2238
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:40,000
Speaker 1: down the line up. Andy Dalton hasn't played well in

2239
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:42,719
Speaker 1: a few years. He really peaked that one season. Marcus

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01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:44,600
Speaker 1: snari other hasn't been a hundred percent. So to me,

2241
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 1: you know, I would go Brady number one, just because

2242
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 1: I think, you know, he did play pretty well. There

2243
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 1: were very few weapons in the England. The line did struggle.

2244
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 1: I'd to Brady one. I'd probably go Bridgewater two. I'd

2245
01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 1: go Rivers three. And then I think, to me, I

2246
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:00,680
Speaker 1: think there's a drop off to the Those guys are

2247
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston's Marcus mariota Is. I think they're kind of

2248
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 1: in the second tier there. So, you know, I think

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01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 1: it depends on what kind of offense you want to run. Well,

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Speaker 1: Webbons you have, you know, I think Rivers is a

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01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:10,720
Speaker 1: great fit for Tampa, where you want to say in

2252
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 1: the pocket, chuck it downfield, you know, no risk it,

2253
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:16,560
Speaker 1: no biscuit offensive, Bruce Arians. I think Rivers is a

2254
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 1: perfect fit for that offense. But Teddy Bridgewater might not

2255
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Speaker 1: be a great for Philip offense because he doesn't have

2256
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,679
Speaker 1: necessarily that top level arm strength. I'm on the foot side.

2257
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:25,679
Speaker 1: If you're the Patriots and you have a great defense,

2258
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:27,280
Speaker 1: then you hope to run the football, and you want

2259
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 1: to protect the football and not make any mistakes. Well,

2260
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:32,800
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater might make a lot more sense than Philip Rivers.

2261
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 1: So I really think it comes down to sort of

2262
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 1: the fit for these guys, because they all have their

2263
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 1: own unique flaws and their own unique problems. Where do

2264
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:42,679
Speaker 1: you think Brady winds up? Bill? I still think the Patriots.

2265
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 1: I'd rather go with the Patriots. Nancy else. I think

2266
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 1: it is less likely than ever before, and less likely

2267
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 1: than I thought a month ago. But I would say,

2268
01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 1: you know, Patriots fifty percent, maybe the rest of the

2269
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 1: league fifty percent, So fifty fifty split. But still think

2270
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots are more likely than any other team. Are

2271
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 1: they going to give him more than a one year deal?

2272
01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:00,759
Speaker 1: Would you think you have to? You have to because

2273
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 1: he has a leverage to go to Tennessee, or go

2274
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 1: to Las Vegas, which is strange to say, or go

2275
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 1: to the Chargers and say, hey, I want a five

2276
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 1: year deal. I want three years of guaranteed money. And

2277
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna do it because you know, for Tom Brady,

2278
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 1: you'll sell a billion Raiders Jersies, you all sell a

2279
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 1: billion Chargers Jersis, you'll sell take it to that Charger stadium,

2280
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 1: which they desperately need. So they're going to be able

2281
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 1: to offer him a massive deal. And the Patriots, unfortunately

2282
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 1: for them, necessarily they're going to have to match that.

2283
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 1: They don't have to match the money, but you can't

2284
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 1: offer Tom Brady a one year, twenty five million dollars

2285
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 1: deal if he has you know, three years and one

2286
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 1: hundred and five million on the table from two other teams.

2287
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 1: Where do you think the Patriots do say tom Brady's gone?

2288
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 1: You think Teddy Bridgewater is the most likely. Or do

2289
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 1: they try and trade for a more steady guy, like

2290
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:48,519
Speaker 1: a more predictable guy like like Andy Dalton plus all

2291
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 1: the wildcats you mentioned with Marcus Mariota, Jameis Winston and

2292
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, is there any that sentiment out there the

2293
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,680
Speaker 1: Patriots believe they can win with anybody, even if it's

2294
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 1: not Tom Brady. Yeah, I think it's tough. I think

2295
01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 1: it depends on what that there. I mean, if Tom

2296
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 1: Brady signs with the Raiders, I could see the Patriots

2297
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 1: trading for Derek car If he signed with the forty

2298
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 1: nine ers, I could absolutely see the Patriots trading for

2299
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. You know, I think it depends on who

2300
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 1: comes out there, based on where Brady goes off, tannhim,

2301
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill. It becomes a free agent because Tennessee signs

2302
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:18,960
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, which I think is the most likely suitor

2303
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 1: if Tom Brady does leave, while the Patriots could very

2304
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 1: easily sign Ryan Tannehill. So I think he could be,

2305
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:26,559
Speaker 1: you know, either the guy who is freed up by

2306
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:29,760
Speaker 1: Brady signing elsewhere, or I could see Bridgewater. He's a

2307
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 1: little small fourth. The Patriots typically look forward quarterbacks, but

2308
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's going to be a little cheaper.

2309
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 1: Maybe obviously he's younger, that's an advantage of Patriots. And

2310
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,599
Speaker 1: who knows. Bill Belichick is a pretty creative guy. Give

2311
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:42,320
Speaker 1: me something out of the box, say trade for someone

2312
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:45,560
Speaker 1: we're not expecting, but for me, you know, I'm not

2313
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan. I have no dog in this hunt. Besides,

2314
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:51,600
Speaker 1: I want the most interesting story, and to me, you know,

2315
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 1: I think it'd be fascinating if Tom Brady did leave

2316
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 1: to see what Bill Belichick did scheme up without his

2317
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 1: legendary quarterback. I gotta I know him a million miles

2318
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 1: away from the coast and the NFC. But it seems

2319
01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 1: why is Jimmy Garoppolo a guy who got that team

2320
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Why is it that all of

2321
01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 1: a sudden everybody's throwing him off the bus. It's a

2322
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:15,719
Speaker 1: fair question, and I'll tell you why. I'm at least

2323
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 1: skeptical that the Isners are one hundred percent throw with

2324
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:21,800
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. It's the second quarter of that game and

2325
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of that game in the Super Blown

2326
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garppolo got the ball back at the end of

2327
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:27,720
Speaker 1: the first half Coy shannahand did not let him throw

2328
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 1: the football. In those first two places, they ran the

2329
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 1: football they wanted to get to half time. I think

2330
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 1: back to the Eagles Patriots game, Thug Peterson trusted Nick Foles.

2331
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:36,400
Speaker 1: They score a touchdown on that drive. They even convert

2332
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 1: a fourth and one with Billy Speciel and they win

2333
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 1: that game because Doug Peterson had total faith in Knick Foles.

2334
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 1: He had no choice. I don't know that Cos Shannon

2335
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 1: had had faith in Jimmy Garoppolo in the situation. Then

2336
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 1: he go to the fourth quarter, he was like three

2337
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 1: of ten for twenty eight yards with the pick. He

2338
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 1: was really bad in the fourth quarter, made a few

2339
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:55,759
Speaker 1: mental those stakes, a few incorrect reads, you know, obviously

2340
01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:57,640
Speaker 1: than Jimmy Garoppo was a good quarterback. I think the

2341
01:53:57,720 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 1: Diners don't have to make a change, So they don't

2342
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 1: have to make a change just for the sake of saying, hey,

2343
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 1: we got an upgrade and Jimmy Garoppolo. But if you're

2344
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:08,080
Speaker 1: the Niners, if you're Cal Shanahan and Tom Brady says, hey,

2345
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:09,840
Speaker 1: I want to come play for the hometown team that

2346
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 1: I grew up supporting, and I can make it a

2347
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 1: reasonable financial opportunity for one year or two years. I

2348
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:18,600
Speaker 1: don't know if you make that move, but I do

2349
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 1: think you have to at least legitimately consider it. Very

2350
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:23,720
Speaker 1: interesting stuff. Bill, We thank you for coming on with

2351
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 1: us today to talk about it. Thank you anytime, guys.

2352
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:29,360
Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell ESPN senior writer, hosts of The Bill Barnwell

2353
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 1: Show podcast contributor to ESPN Sports Center, joining us on

2354
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:38,280
Speaker 1: the line, and may I say, I feel vindicated. I

2355
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 1: think we made the right move to lead with Tom Brady.

2356
01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 1: Stop apologizing for it. I'm not apologizing. It's the right

2357
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 1: call and it's gonna be that. I'm not saying we're

2358
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 1: going with Brady for another week. But it is the

2359
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 1: story in the NFL, and that includes Buffalo. It does

2360
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:58,800
Speaker 1: have an impact on Buffalo, and as Bill Barnwell sketched

2361
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:01,800
Speaker 1: out there, our teams that it affects even more than Buffalo.

2362
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 1: But it is a big story and everybody's kind of

2363
01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 1: waiting on where does Brady go? He maybe that's maybe

2364
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 1: it was our time with the Combine least two weeks

2365
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 1: ago wherever. That's all anybody talked about. That led me

2366
01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 1: to believe this is huge, and it is huge Brady future,

2367
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 1: you and me too. Radio guys in Buffalo talking about

2368
01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 1: it was like all the gms and the coaches at

2369
01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 1: the Combine we're talking about and what the scenarios were

2370
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 1: and how you know it comes down to also you

2371
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 1: kind of know the framework and you're gonna find out

2372
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 1: exactly what the framework is when the tampering, uh, the

2373
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 1: tampering period begins. Whether you don't or not now, but

2374
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:42,200
Speaker 1: it seems clear he wants a three years at a minimum.

2375
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 1: And then if okay, if he wants three years, then

2376
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:47,360
Speaker 1: you got to say, okay, well you may as well

2377
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 1: get If you're gonna give him three years, he's you're

2378
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 1: gonna even guarantee the money. And that's going to be

2379
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 1: part of what makes your deal better than their deal.

2380
01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 1: That will be in the number that's attached to it,

2381
01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 1: how many zeros are on it, and how much of

2382
01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 1: it's garin t and how big a commitment. And this

2383
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 1: is important too. Who's around the Brady, who do you

2384
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 1: got to play with? Well, here's the thing that's not

2385
01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 1: important for the front. I mean it's important now for

2386
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 1: the front. But they can't change it now, right, I

2387
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 1: mean that it is now that's up to Brady. If

2388
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 1: he says, okay, I'm I get three years from who

2389
01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 1: Tennessee and their window is gonna close quick. But I

2390
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 1: got the three years and all the money I want

2391
01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 1: from them. And you know, do I want to do this?

2392
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 1: Do I want to get this is the only deal

2393
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 1: this is the only three year deal I've got, or

2394
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 1: it's the best three year deal I've got. And even

2395
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 1: though there, I think I could win in La quicker

2396
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 1: or more often and better than I can in Tennessee.

2397
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 1: Now what am I? What am I comparing? Now? Let

2398
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:52,440
Speaker 1: me add this, and this is another reason why this

2399
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 1: is such a compelling deal, such a can't You can't

2400
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 1: take your eyes off it. Brady's forty three. Look, he

2401
01:56:59,160 --> 01:57:00,960
Speaker 1: may not have it any more. Tons of people on

2402
01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 1: Twitter today telling us he's washed up, he doesn't have

2403
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 1: it any more. You might be right. You might be right.

2404
01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 1: Brady doesn't think you're right, and the team that signs

2405
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:10,400
Speaker 1: him doesn't think you're right. But it'll be interesting to

2406
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 1: see if he still got it for this year and

2407
01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 1: next year or three years out right. I think he

2408
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:17,600
Speaker 1: didn't have it this year he won twelve games. Well,

2409
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,839
Speaker 1: I don't you know, people, they got a great defense

2410
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. I get it. You might be right,

2411
01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:27,280
Speaker 1: and certainly his u certainly his skills have diminished, no

2412
01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 1: question about that. But I don't know. I don't know.

2413
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 1: I don't have an answer about that. That, which is

2414
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 1: why it's so so many things to talk about with this,

2415
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 1: because there's there's some key teams who think they can

2416
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 1: win right now and all they need is that guy.

2417
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 1: And there's a couple of them out there, but you

2418
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,560
Speaker 1: really like a shot at that guy because even if

2419
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't, if he flops, you're not gonna take any

2420
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 1: heat for signing Tom Brady if if the season goes

2421
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:58,880
Speaker 1: belly up, you know you're not now Yep, he signed

2422
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I'll tell you one thing you're not gonna do.

2423
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have any trouble selling tickets right You're

2424
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:06,400
Speaker 1: gonna set a season. You're gonna a franchise record in

2425
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:09,000
Speaker 1: season ticket sales. How if you make the move we've

2426
01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:11,640
Speaker 1: discussed with the Niners, how about if they Jennison the

2427
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:14,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowl quarterback to bring back, to bring a forty

2428
01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 1: two year old, got forty three year old to play quarterback.

2429
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:19,520
Speaker 1: They'd be second guest about that. The Niners certainly be

2430
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:22,080
Speaker 1: second guests. That's why I ain't gonna happen. You heard

2431
01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 1: it here first. You told me three months ago that

2432
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 1: Brady was gonna stay in New England. You can't say

2433
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 1: that now I can say it. You can say it.

2434
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't think you believe it now? Yeah, well, I

2435
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:32,880
Speaker 1: think I think it's a good still good as good

2436
01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 1: a chance as ever that he will. Oh, I don't

2437
01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:36,000
Speaker 1: think so. I think there's less of a chance that

2438
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:38,000
Speaker 1: ever that he will. It's a week away now maybe

2439
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 1: all right, we got a break. We're coming back. One

2440
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:42,520
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Klatta Health from the Seneca Studio

2441
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 1: in Archer Park. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back.

2442
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 1: Got about twenty six minutes left in one of Mill's

2443
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 1: five today, Jim Murphy, Steve Tasker, let's take our Let's

2444
01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 1: check our Twitter poll if we can please. It's about

2445
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:11,240
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Warn you right now you may not want

2446
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:17,720
Speaker 1: to engage. You think I'm too you're too apologetic. We're

2447
01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 1: not apologizing. It's the right move, and we'd likely to

2448
01:59:20,320 --> 01:59:22,600
Speaker 1: go with Tom Brady later this week too, as he

2449
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:25,440
Speaker 1: makes up his mind. Our Twitter poll today, other than

2450
01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:28,840
Speaker 1: the Patriots, which AFC team that acquires Tom Brady would

2451
01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:31,200
Speaker 1: worry you the most? From a Bill's perspective, Give us

2452
01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:33,680
Speaker 1: a call eight O three five fifty toll free one

2453
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty on the

2454
01:59:37,280 --> 01:59:39,920
Speaker 1: Twitter pole. We've got six hundred votes. In sixty six

2455
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 1: percent of you say the Tennessee Titans would were you

2456
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:45,960
Speaker 1: the most, fourteen percent say the Los Angeles Chargers would

2457
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 1: give you the most cost for a concern, thirteen percent

2458
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 1: of somebody else in mind, and seven percent have the

2459
01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 1: Raiders in mind. Let's hear from you eight three five

2460
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:56,480
Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

2461
01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:59,360
Speaker 1: five fifty want to let's take a phone call right now.

2462
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,040
Speaker 1: I think a different topic, but let's do it. Alan,

2463
02:00:02,160 --> 02:00:05,240
Speaker 1: Lake Placid. Hello, Al, you're on the air. He he

2464
02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:08,480
Speaker 1: thank you for taking my phone call. Non't matter where

2465
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:13,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady ever goes, he will definitely recharge that team.

2466
02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:16,440
Speaker 1: He if he was to have gone to another team, Um,

2467
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:20,360
Speaker 1: he would definitely be an asset. Yeah. That that being

2468
02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:23,880
Speaker 1: said real quickly. I'm not really that up to date

2469
02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:26,440
Speaker 1: in sports, and in sport I'd like to why I'm

2470
02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 1: a Sunday watcher, But I do get the impression that

2471
02:00:30,040 --> 02:00:34,200
Speaker 1: these teams are putting so much emphasis on holding onto

2472
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:38,960
Speaker 1: their senior ball players. I think to solve that problem

2473
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:41,920
Speaker 1: if I was an owner or coach, there is another

2474
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:44,560
Speaker 1: Tom Brady out there that's coming up through the ranks.

2475
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:49,360
Speaker 1: There is another um Joe Montana um Um. I just

2476
02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:54,120
Speaker 1: don't think they put enough emphasis in any other organizations,

2477
02:00:54,200 --> 02:00:57,120
Speaker 1: and they're spending way too much money on holding on

2478
02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:02,280
Speaker 1: to the holding out to the past. That being said,

2479
02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 1: I think if they were to start put more emphasis

2480
02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:08,800
Speaker 1: in finding the next Tom Brady, we're finding that next

2481
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:13,320
Speaker 1: great pass rusher. I think I think that would solve

2482
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:16,320
Speaker 1: a lot of problems, and I would as a viewer,

2483
02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:19,920
Speaker 1: I'd like to see that being given to these younger

2484
02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:22,840
Speaker 1: ball players that are working hard, because there is truly

2485
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:25,640
Speaker 1: a lot of talent out there. Yeah, being missed all.

2486
02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:27,440
Speaker 1: I think you're right, there is a lot of talent

2487
02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:30,240
Speaker 1: out there. But believe me, don't think for a minute

2488
02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:34,280
Speaker 1: that the NFL isn't spending millions of bucks, millions and

2489
02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:39,160
Speaker 1: thousands of man hours and traveling thousands upon thousands of

2490
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:45,440
Speaker 1: miles and watching hours and hours of tape to find

2491
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:48,360
Speaker 1: those guys. They are looking for them high and low,

2492
02:01:48,480 --> 02:01:50,800
Speaker 1: and that's that's their job. That's what they do. And

2493
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:55,880
Speaker 1: I have told a hundred hundreds of young football players

2494
02:01:55,920 --> 02:01:58,000
Speaker 1: who were agonizing over where they were going to go

2495
02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:01,200
Speaker 1: to college and play football, that it doesn't matter where

2496
02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:03,760
Speaker 1: they go to play football as long as they're successful,

2497
02:02:03,800 --> 02:02:06,360
Speaker 1: because if you're good enough, the NFL will find you.

2498
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:13,520
Speaker 1: The problem is Tom Brady's, Joe Montanas, John Elways, Dan Marino's,

2499
02:02:13,640 --> 02:02:17,800
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly's. Those guys are rare, and they don't just

2500
02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:20,520
Speaker 1: fall off trees. And while you can think, yeah, there's

2501
02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:22,840
Speaker 1: gonna be another one, there's gonna be another maybe one,

2502
02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:25,080
Speaker 1: and they're gonna come one at a time. You're not

2503
02:02:25,160 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 1: gonna get ten tom Brady's in the NFL all at once,

2504
02:02:28,080 --> 02:02:31,360
Speaker 1: or even three, but they're gonna be. You're gonna get

2505
02:02:31,400 --> 02:02:36,480
Speaker 1: some good guys. Those guys are generational talents. And the

2506
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:38,920
Speaker 1: fact that you know, you can say that the teams

2507
02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:40,720
Speaker 1: hang on to the old guys too long and all,

2508
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:43,920
Speaker 1: I get it, but believe me, they are always looking.

2509
02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:48,320
Speaker 1: They spare no expense, they leave no stone unturned. And

2510
02:02:48,440 --> 02:02:50,640
Speaker 1: the fact that you don't see those guys out there,

2511
02:02:50,760 --> 02:02:53,080
Speaker 1: or see these guys coming on every one every year,

2512
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:57,240
Speaker 1: should tell you that they just are that rare. I

2513
02:02:57,360 --> 02:02:59,000
Speaker 1: keep going back, and I've said this on the show

2514
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:01,720
Speaker 1: many times, but super Bowl fifty one in Houston, I

2515
02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:03,680
Speaker 1: was down there. You weren't with us on the show yet,

2516
02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:05,960
Speaker 1: Stephen tim to meet Trough who had his team in

2517
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:08,520
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with Matt Ryan the Atlanta Falcons, and

2518
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:10,640
Speaker 1: I was talking to Meet Trough doing an interview off

2519
02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:13,680
Speaker 1: to the side and asked him about quarterback searches and

2520
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 1: the Bills at that point had Tyrod Taylor and did

2521
02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:18,800
Speaker 1: not have Josh Allen. They were a year or two

2522
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:21,200
Speaker 1: away from Josh Allen. And he kind of answered my

2523
02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:25,000
Speaker 1: question with I don't know words that I think should

2524
02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:28,240
Speaker 1: be printed on a stone somewhere. He said, when you're

2525
02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:30,839
Speaker 1: an NFL team and you don't have a franchise quarterback,

2526
02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:36,120
Speaker 1: your franchise is consumed, consumed by the search for that guy. Now,

2527
02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:38,800
Speaker 1: the Bills were there for a decade and a half,

2528
02:03:38,840 --> 02:03:41,840
Speaker 1: almost two decades looking for their next franchise quarterback after

2529
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:44,840
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly retired, and they're not there now because they

2530
02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:46,560
Speaker 1: got Josh Allen, who is on his way to be

2531
02:03:46,600 --> 02:03:49,560
Speaker 1: in the franchise quarterback. But I think, to answer your question,

2532
02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:52,160
Speaker 1: I think teams that don't have the franchise quarterback are

2533
02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:54,160
Speaker 1: consumed by the search for that guy I do. I

2534
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:56,200
Speaker 1: think it probably wake up every day and say what

2535
02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:58,160
Speaker 1: am I going to do today to find a franchise

2536
02:03:58,280 --> 02:04:02,040
Speaker 1: quarterback and here's the thing. They know that in the meantime,

2537
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:06,400
Speaker 1: unless that guy falls from the sky like manna from heaven,

2538
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:11,160
Speaker 1: they are expected to win without one. Yeah, find a

2539
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:13,160
Speaker 1: way to win. So they're looking at guys on the

2540
02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:16,280
Speaker 1: free agent market like the forty two year old Tom Brady,

2541
02:04:16,360 --> 02:04:20,080
Speaker 1: the thirty eight year old Philip Rivers, the perpetually back

2542
02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:24,360
Speaker 1: up Teddy Bridgewater, the mediocre to this point, Bryan Tannehill,

2543
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:32,240
Speaker 1: the completely disappointing Jamis Winston's and Marcus Mariota's of the world.

2544
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:37,800
Speaker 1: All these guys are known commodities. So when you see them,

2545
02:04:38,120 --> 02:04:40,560
Speaker 1: and the experts in the NFL see all these guys,

2546
02:04:40,640 --> 02:04:44,040
Speaker 1: they say, Okay, if we bring that to our team,

2547
02:04:44,320 --> 02:04:46,920
Speaker 1: what do we need in addition to that to win

2548
02:04:47,120 --> 02:04:50,160
Speaker 1: with what we've got? Now? Is it less with this

2549
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:51,920
Speaker 1: guy than it is with this guy. We'll let us

2550
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:53,680
Speaker 1: get the guy that we need to build less around

2551
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:56,800
Speaker 1: in from where we're at now, you can win different

2552
02:04:56,840 --> 02:05:01,320
Speaker 1: ways in the NFL. We've seen it. It's harder to

2553
02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:05,120
Speaker 1: do and it certainly gives you less margin of error

2554
02:05:05,480 --> 02:05:07,440
Speaker 1: than you do than you have when you've got a

2555
02:05:07,480 --> 02:05:10,160
Speaker 1: guy pulling the trigger who's a Hall of Famer, but

2556
02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:12,240
Speaker 1: teams are expected to do it, and they try to.

2557
02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:17,480
Speaker 1: But believe me, they're always looking for the next Tom Brady,

2558
02:05:17,600 --> 02:05:23,760
Speaker 1: Joe Montana, Philip Rivers, Josh Allens, Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield.

2559
02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:27,720
Speaker 1: They're always looking for the next Drew Brees, all these

2560
02:05:27,800 --> 02:05:34,200
Speaker 1: guys that Ben Roethlisberger. They do nothing else. Let's take

2561
02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:39,040
Speaker 1: a call from Standing Buffalo. Hello, standing around the air. Hey, guys,

2562
02:05:39,080 --> 02:05:42,720
Speaker 1: how you doing today? Real good, great, great, Just wanted

2563
02:05:42,760 --> 02:05:46,560
Speaker 1: a real quick jumping on the Brady thing. Obviously, Brady's

2564
02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:49,160
Speaker 1: the Brady's the trail next week of where maybe a

2565
02:05:49,320 --> 02:05:54,400
Speaker 1: Rivers or a Bridgewater Lands. You know what, Brady the

2566
02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:58,720
Speaker 1: best spot for him is Tampa Bay, and I know

2567
02:05:58,880 --> 02:06:01,360
Speaker 1: he won't go there. I think I think he's gonna

2568
02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:03,880
Speaker 1: end up with the Chargers if he does that route.

2569
02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:05,880
Speaker 1: Being on the West coast. I don't think he's going

2570
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:08,360
Speaker 1: back to New England. I think Rivers ends up in

2571
02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:11,640
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is very successful for the next couple of

2572
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:15,400
Speaker 1: years to groom somebody under Bruce Arians. Why is Tampa

2573
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:17,440
Speaker 1: Bay the best spot for Brady? Do you think Ryan

2574
02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:21,240
Speaker 1: or stand I just think Bruce Arians is just a guy.

2575
02:06:21,560 --> 02:06:25,640
Speaker 1: He he's the other Billicheck. I think when it comes

2576
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:30,280
Speaker 1: to grooming somebody being part of something, I think Arians

2577
02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:33,800
Speaker 1: can actually as far as Brady's concerned, I think he

2578
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:36,800
Speaker 1: can let Brady run the offense and help him run

2579
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:39,880
Speaker 1: the offense the way he wants to and know that

2580
02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:43,080
Speaker 1: he says, Tom, listen, we got three years with you,

2581
02:06:43,960 --> 02:06:48,000
Speaker 1: a year two or year three. We're gonna draft your predecessor,

2582
02:06:48,360 --> 02:06:50,960
Speaker 1: and we want you to develop him like you were developed.

2583
02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:54,320
Speaker 1: And I think that Arians can relate to Brady can

2584
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:57,360
Speaker 1: relate the Arians in that way. That's my thoughts. Interesting.

2585
02:06:58,040 --> 02:06:59,920
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think Bruce Arians has a

2586
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:04,080
Speaker 1: lot of cache with quarterbacks around the league. I think

2587
02:07:04,160 --> 02:07:06,520
Speaker 1: that happened when he had the success he did with

2588
02:07:07,280 --> 02:07:15,040
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer. I just he's got that reputation and I

2589
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:17,280
Speaker 1: think his players love playing for him. I think Tampa

2590
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:19,600
Speaker 1: Bay is a great spot, and I would agree with

2591
02:07:19,640 --> 02:07:22,120
Speaker 1: you Tampa Bay is one of the top runner, one

2592
02:07:22,160 --> 02:07:24,640
Speaker 1: of the top contenders to get him. I don't know

2593
02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:26,680
Speaker 1: how high they'll have to jump to get Tom Brady,

2594
02:07:26,800 --> 02:07:29,080
Speaker 1: or if they'll have to jump higher than somebody else,

2595
02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:35,280
Speaker 1: just because but Brady's been in New England for a

2596
02:07:35,360 --> 02:07:37,720
Speaker 1: long time. He's gonna go to If that's Tampa Bay,

2597
02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:41,560
Speaker 1: Florida doesn't have any state tax, that's a big It's

2598
02:07:41,600 --> 02:07:45,080
Speaker 1: a big pay raise even if you get the same money,

2599
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:49,320
Speaker 1: particularly on the numbers we're talking about. I like that.

2600
02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:51,400
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think Tampa Bay is a

2601
02:07:51,480 --> 02:07:54,680
Speaker 1: real contender. I think, But I also know that when

2602
02:07:54,680 --> 02:07:59,240
Speaker 1: it comes to guys like this, some owners take it personally.

2603
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:03,440
Speaker 1: It becomes a contest to see who can sign him,

2604
02:08:04,040 --> 02:08:08,040
Speaker 1: and La Chargers might want to do it. The Raiders,

2605
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:10,160
Speaker 1: you could certainly see them making a run at him,

2606
02:08:10,600 --> 02:08:12,520
Speaker 1: And I don't know if the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have

2607
02:08:12,600 --> 02:08:14,480
Speaker 1: a kind of owner who wants to get into a

2608
02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:16,480
Speaker 1: contest like that and say, hey, I'm gonna get him

2609
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:18,640
Speaker 1: no matter what, Because I think those other two may,

2610
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:22,120
Speaker 1: you know they may. I would worry about the Buck's

2611
02:08:22,160 --> 02:08:25,080
Speaker 1: owners being that involved. Let me ask you this question, Eve,

2612
02:08:25,160 --> 02:08:27,480
Speaker 1: as we kind of count down to the end of

2613
02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:31,920
Speaker 1: the show, the legal tampering period, as it is known,

2614
02:08:32,240 --> 02:08:34,760
Speaker 1: starts Monday. Brady hasn't made up his mind yet, or isn't.

2615
02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:37,840
Speaker 1: He hasn't proclaimed whether he's staying in New England. Are

2616
02:08:38,080 --> 02:08:41,760
Speaker 1: gonna test free agency and it's legal tampering next Monday

2617
02:08:41,920 --> 02:08:46,000
Speaker 1: as of now and real signing on Wednesday, how much,

2618
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:49,440
Speaker 1: if at all, do you think interested teams have reached

2619
02:08:49,480 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 1: out to people close to Brady agents are people close

2620
02:08:52,960 --> 02:08:57,200
Speaker 1: to him and tested his intentions. You think there's got

2621
02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:59,160
Speaker 1: to be some of that calling on, right, somebody calling

2622
02:08:59,240 --> 02:09:01,640
Speaker 1: up Brady and saying, hey, we're not tampering here, but

2623
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:04,560
Speaker 1: should we get our act in order, Like say you're

2624
02:09:04,600 --> 02:09:08,160
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers, you know you get a secondary

2625
02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:11,360
Speaker 1: Chargers maybe not even an employee speaking on behalf of

2626
02:09:11,400 --> 02:09:14,000
Speaker 1: time to LESCo to call somebody close to Brady and

2627
02:09:14,200 --> 02:09:16,560
Speaker 1: find out should we bother putting together a plan for

2628
02:09:17,120 --> 02:09:18,840
Speaker 1: a pitch to bring Tom Brady. It's got to be

2629
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:20,800
Speaker 1: going on now, right, I think so. I think they

2630
02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:24,040
Speaker 1: probably found that up before even the combine, although at

2631
02:09:24,080 --> 02:09:27,400
Speaker 1: the combine I think there's probably open conversations about it

2632
02:09:27,480 --> 02:09:33,880
Speaker 1: because you've got representation and may overlap where I don't

2633
02:09:33,880 --> 02:09:37,560
Speaker 1: know that Tom Brady's agent handles anybody else. I think

2634
02:09:37,600 --> 02:09:41,840
Speaker 1: he does, I'm sure. And if he does that, guys

2635
02:09:41,920 --> 02:09:45,760
Speaker 1: talking to the team about a player X who's also

2636
02:09:45,920 --> 02:09:50,040
Speaker 1: represents and they can just say, hey, okay, we're also

2637
02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:52,840
Speaker 1: by the way, this contract that you're talking to us

2638
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:55,880
Speaker 1: about may we may be kind of affected by it

2639
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:59,520
Speaker 1: because we're looking at the quarterback market and we're keeping

2640
02:09:59,520 --> 02:10:01,480
Speaker 1: a close on any free agents and we're willing to

2641
02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 1: make a run at one of those guys. So you

2642
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:06,440
Speaker 1: gotta you know what I mean. I'm sure it's less

2643
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:10,640
Speaker 1: secretive than that. Even they say, listen, we're interested in Tom.

2644
02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:13,360
Speaker 1: You let us know what it's going to take, what

2645
02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:16,240
Speaker 1: his wishes are, and what's important to him. Thanks, And

2646
02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:18,600
Speaker 1: that's all it takes. Yeah, and you get about four

2647
02:10:18,640 --> 02:10:20,880
Speaker 1: teams doing that, and all of a sudden you're talking

2648
02:10:20,920 --> 02:10:25,040
Speaker 1: about a nine figure contract pretty quick, particularly over three

2649
02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:30,000
Speaker 1: over three years. So I yeah, they know all that stuff.

2650
02:10:30,440 --> 02:10:33,000
Speaker 1: They know all that stuff for sure. Both sides would

2651
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:36,440
Speaker 1: be very careful about it. But still they can talk, right.

2652
02:10:36,520 --> 02:10:38,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the league even understands that, right. That's why

2653
02:10:38,640 --> 02:10:40,880
Speaker 1: they put this, That's why they put this period in

2654
02:10:41,480 --> 02:10:43,160
Speaker 1: so that they say, Okay, we're gonna let you do

2655
02:10:43,240 --> 02:10:46,680
Speaker 1: it for free, no worries starting on Monday. And even

2656
02:10:46,720 --> 02:10:49,800
Speaker 1: if they don't, everybody's got their phone number, they can't

2657
02:10:49,800 --> 02:10:51,320
Speaker 1: call up. And the first thing you say is listen,

2658
02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:53,640
Speaker 1: don't make any moves without talking to us. We're willing

2659
02:10:53,680 --> 02:10:56,560
Speaker 1: to talk about any offer you've already received or will receive,

2660
02:10:57,400 --> 02:11:00,760
Speaker 1: and as of now, we're ready to match anything, if

2661
02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:03,120
Speaker 1: not beat it, so that you know, there you go.

2662
02:11:03,320 --> 02:11:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at up Tom Brady's agent is uh

2663
02:11:06,040 --> 02:11:11,480
Speaker 1: yeh dan ye Danye, also the agent for Jimmy Garoppolo.

2664
02:11:12,200 --> 02:11:14,520
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, I'm looking through a list of his clients

2665
02:11:14,840 --> 02:11:16,920
Speaker 1: and they're not real big name clients. I mean they're

2666
02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:21,760
Speaker 1: NFL players, Daniel Soarson of the Chiefs, just not real

2667
02:11:21,880 --> 02:11:26,040
Speaker 1: huge names. It's interesting, which is perfect for the for

2668
02:11:26,120 --> 02:11:31,320
Speaker 1: the tampering stuff. I mean, yeah, they come in ostensibly

2669
02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:33,080
Speaker 1: talk about one of these other guys that doesn't matter,

2670
02:11:33,120 --> 02:11:35,760
Speaker 1: and then talk about the guy that really does. Yeah. Okay,

2671
02:11:35,800 --> 02:11:37,560
Speaker 1: we got a break. We're coming back. One Bill Side

2672
02:11:37,600 --> 02:11:40,800
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2673
02:11:40,880 --> 02:11:58,280
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. I know what have I

2674
02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:00,680
Speaker 1: learned from today's show? And we do it at the

2675
02:12:00,760 --> 02:12:04,160
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2676
02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:07,480
Speaker 1: the official construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills.

2677
02:12:07,520 --> 02:12:09,320
Speaker 1: We talked about what we learned. We have Bill Barnwell

2678
02:12:09,760 --> 02:12:12,080
Speaker 1: on the show today, and Bill Barnwell is of course

2679
02:12:12,400 --> 02:12:16,320
Speaker 1: ESPN product, and we talked to Bill Barnwell about the

2680
02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:19,000
Speaker 1: Bills as the approach free agency and how solid they

2681
02:12:19,000 --> 02:12:21,600
Speaker 1: are with the leadership team of Jean McDermott and Brendan

2682
02:12:21,640 --> 02:12:26,880
Speaker 1: bean Well. I think that's a real culture developing there.

2683
02:12:26,920 --> 02:12:28,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they have a really strong sense

2684
02:12:28,840 --> 02:12:31,560
Speaker 1: of what kind of players they want to add. They

2685
02:12:31,680 --> 02:12:34,720
Speaker 1: really targeted that's sort of middle tier of free agency.

2686
02:12:34,720 --> 02:12:36,640
Speaker 1: They haven't really gone for those top level guys. I mean,

2687
02:12:36,680 --> 02:12:39,120
Speaker 1: the sort of a border trade for Antonio Brown might

2688
02:12:39,160 --> 02:12:41,600
Speaker 1: be the rare exception. The Star Loot to Layley deal

2689
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:45,000
Speaker 1: was pretty extensive for eight offensive tackle. But otherwise it's

2690
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:46,760
Speaker 1: been a lot of those guys on the middle range

2691
02:12:47,040 --> 02:12:49,120
Speaker 1: where I think they've kind of figured, Okay, it's better

2692
02:12:49,200 --> 02:12:52,320
Speaker 1: to have a team of a useful, productive personal players.

2693
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:54,160
Speaker 1: That was supposed to having, you know, a bunch of

2694
02:12:54,240 --> 02:12:57,640
Speaker 1: stars and a bunch of scrubs, and that scruggs harsh,

2695
02:12:57,680 --> 02:12:58,720
Speaker 1: But you know, a bunch of stars with a bunch

2696
02:12:58,720 --> 02:13:00,920
Speaker 1: of you know, undrafted free agents or guys who are

2697
02:13:00,920 --> 02:13:03,560
Speaker 1: hoping are going to develop, as opposed to having a

2698
02:13:03,680 --> 02:13:05,440
Speaker 1: team full of players in North they're doing and were

2699
02:13:05,560 --> 02:13:09,440
Speaker 1: deep and competitive. Bill Barnwell on what Brendan Bean and

2700
02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:11,400
Speaker 1: John McDermott have built here in Buffalo. And I think

2701
02:13:11,400 --> 02:13:14,040
Speaker 1: in general, people are pretty confident the Bills will be

2702
02:13:14,120 --> 02:13:15,800
Speaker 1: okay in the next few weeks, right as they jump

2703
02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:18,520
Speaker 1: into free agency. It's weird, but I'm with them. I'm

2704
02:13:18,640 --> 02:13:20,600
Speaker 1: very confident of what these guys have done, what they're doing,

2705
02:13:20,680 --> 02:13:24,000
Speaker 1: their plan and their ability to stay on it. To me,

2706
02:13:24,160 --> 02:13:25,880
Speaker 1: it turns into think, Yes, I wonder who's going to

2707
02:13:25,920 --> 02:13:28,000
Speaker 1: be you know, ers can look like you know, because

2708
02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:30,000
Speaker 1: I really have a lot of confidence. The thing that

2709
02:13:30,040 --> 02:13:32,320
Speaker 1: gets me is can they get all these new pieces

2710
02:13:32,440 --> 02:13:34,600
Speaker 1: that are going to be forced by this philosophy? Can

2711
02:13:34,640 --> 02:13:36,400
Speaker 1: they get them all to come together fast enough to

2712
02:13:36,440 --> 02:13:38,600
Speaker 1: win a lot of games against a much more difficult

2713
02:13:38,600 --> 02:13:41,959
Speaker 1: schedule next year? Yeah? Big stories, Yeah Yeah. Production assistance

2714
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:45,440
Speaker 1: today from George Blast, Jeff Coltnick Thomas, Homander, Kelly Rude,

2715
02:13:45,480 --> 02:13:49,240
Speaker 1: JJ Turito, Kevin Kargis, and James Robel Our producer Jay Harris.

2716
02:13:49,280 --> 02:13:52,200
Speaker 1: We're back tomorrow at twelve noon with more Tom Brady talk.

2717
02:13:53,880 --> 02:13:56,880
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