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Speaker 1: Hello all, Welcome to the Naughty but n I Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rob Shooter, and it is Friday day.

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Speaker 1: It's getting very close to Christmas. It is Friday, and

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Speaker 1: do I have a gift for you today? Our dear

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Speaker 1: friend Corey Andrew is with us. Hey, Corey, are you there?

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Speaker 1: I am here?

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Hey Cory.

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Speaker 1: So we had a little bit of a la crisis

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Speaker 1: last week that Corey sent me the wrong audio track.

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Speaker 1: So we record our own audio tracks. So then I

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Speaker 1: merged them together and so I did the hello allawa

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Speaker 1: la Hello Corey are you there? And that's my little

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Speaker 1: indication of where to match up the tracks, and so

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Speaker 1: that matched up beautifully and then nothing else did Corey?

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Speaker 1: You said the wrong week?

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Speaker 2: I know it was that kind of day, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know I'm a dealer with the end of the

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Speaker 2: year stuff, right, we have so many shows to record,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't even know what day it was.

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Speaker 1: Basically, you have you have like four jobs, like you

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Speaker 1: were so busy, so many different things. And I just

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, it's all fine, and the sounds good.

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Speaker 1: The quality of the sounds good, which is so important

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Speaker 1: to us. That's why we do separate track Corey. Last

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Speaker 1: week's it was like a chicksaw puzzle that somebody had

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Speaker 1: put in different pieces and you're trying to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was going mad, but we finally figured

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Speaker 1: it out. And don't worry. Today it's going to be flawless.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump in past some new Let's jump in. What

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Speaker 1: time is it, my friends? It is time. This story

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Speaker 1: makes me very angry, but we'll get into it. And

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Speaker 1: I want to know what you think about this. It's

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Speaker 1: our whole question of the day. Matthew Perry's AA colin,

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Speaker 1: let me remind you what that is AA cahol anonymous.

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Speaker 1: That's the keyword there, anonymous. So Matthew Perry's AA colleague

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Speaker 1: is claiming that he had a lot of enablers and

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Speaker 1: couldn't deal with tough love. So Matthew passed away in

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Speaker 1: October at the age of fifty four, and the autopsy

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Speaker 1: results revealed that he had succumb to a kedamin overdose.

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Speaker 1: Now speaking out on the condition of anomine, which makes

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Speaker 1: me laugh out loud because they want their identity held back,

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Speaker 1: but yet they're willing to talk about Matthew. So a

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Speaker 1: former colleague from his rehabstint revealed that there were a

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Speaker 1: lot of enablers in his life. They said the following quote,

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Speaker 1: mister Perry wasn't able to deal with the tough love,

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Speaker 1: which is characteristic of my AA group. I feel for him,

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Speaker 1: but in my twenty five years experience, sometimes helping someone

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Speaker 1: were a lot of enablers around him. He had a

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Speaker 1: he could get whatever he wanted. It'd be very difficult

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Speaker 1: the sort of drugs that Matthew did buy. And he

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Speaker 1: went on to add that he lied to everybody about

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Speaker 1: you know, the biggest lie he told was probably to himself. Now,

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Speaker 1: all of that can be true, it might be true,

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Speaker 1: but does this person have any right to be saying it?

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Speaker 2: You know, I believe this person means well. Of course,

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Speaker 2: he is violating this idea of an anonymity, as it's called.

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Speaker 2: I think it's such a hard word to say, but

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Speaker 2: because Matthew Perry was so famous, I believe the rules

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Speaker 2: are being bent here a little bit. And let's just

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Speaker 2: be honest. As you just pointed out, Rob, it really

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Speaker 2: does come down to Matthew's decision, right. You can you

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Speaker 2: so I don't want anyone to be scapegoaded here. But

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Speaker 2: it does not help that your friends are enabling you

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Speaker 2: it seems to be the implication here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the few celebrities I've known who were clearly abusing substances,

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Speaker 1: the person that is speaking out here, I've been to

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Speaker 1: There were two famous people in the room. I've never

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Speaker 1: That's the whole point. And do you know what if

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Speaker 1: you don't get it, it's in the title of the program.

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Speaker 2: Like it's hard, Yeah, how can you?

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Speaker 1: That's anonymous is the name of the program.

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Speaker 2: I just think, you know, with that before we move

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Speaker 2: high profile, I don't know. I don't think this person

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Speaker 2: want to demonize the person. But that's because I would say,

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Speaker 1: That's a really, really good point. That's a really good point.

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Speaker 1: If I was in AA with Britney Spears, who has

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've done to do it on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: But would I do it? I'm not sure I would.

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Speaker 1: What about you? Would you do it? Brings us to

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Speaker 1: our pole question of the day. Matthew Perry's AA colleague

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Speaker 1: AA alcohol Anonymous claims that he had a lot of enablers.

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Speaker 1: He might have, but that isn't the question. The question

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Speaker 1: is should this person be doing this interview? Should they

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Speaker 1: be talking out? Hey? Yes or no? Go vote on

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Speaker 1: Christmas Day to hear your results. We're doing a show.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do a solo show on Christmas Day.

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Speaker 1: Christmas Day can be a really difficult day for people.

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Speaker 1: I know that it can be a wonderful day, but

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Speaker 1: it can also be a difficult day. So I love

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Speaker 1: the fact that we've got our habits, our routines, so

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Speaker 1: they will be maybe a little bit of a shorter show,

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Speaker 1: but I will do a show on Christmas Day. Why

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Speaker 1: are you working on Corey? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Well, This is a new headline that popped up Mariah

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Speaker 2: Carey and Brian Tanaka. They have reportedly split after seven

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Speaker 2: after a long time, they're apparently calling it quits because

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Speaker 2: decision for them to split up. You know, he's forty

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Speaker 2: He wants to have a family, and that's not where

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Speaker 2: she is at right now, according to the source. Now,

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Speaker 2: she already has twelve year old twins, Moroccan and Moreau Monroe,

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Speaker 2: and that's with her ex Nick Cannon, of course. And Tanaka,

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Speaker 2: on the other hand, doesn't have any children of his own,

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Speaker 2: and at forty years old, he wants to start a family.

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Speaker 2: And listen, I have to be honest with Mariah, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's a really difficult time sometimes for women. Yeah, biologically,

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Speaker 2: and she said, I'm looking forward to Christmas, like for

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Speaker 2: Because last year wasn't the greatest. Well, yeah, she also

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine if there's one song to write, it's

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Speaker 1: not Copacabana. It's all I want for Christmas is you.

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Speaker 1: Every Christmas, that song goes to the So you have

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Speaker 1: a number one record every year for the rest of

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Speaker 1: one record every year. It's the rest of my life.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things here. My sources tell me that

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Speaker 1: Here's a backup dancer. When he met her in her show,

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Speaker 1: When you say, like, oh, I'd love to be friends

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Speaker 1: with Madonna or your favorite singer, think who you love.

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Speaker 1: not saying Mariah is a mean person, but it's a

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Speaker 1: lot being around Mariah. It's not easy. Think of the

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Speaker 1: Ria Kerry or really any other celebrity. The little dirty

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Speaker 1: to the Naughty but Nice Umble to shoot it, thy friend,

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